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Threston-Hoax

Update (I thought you'd like to know:
"T.R. Threston" is a HOAX! All right already, she does have an elaborate facebook-page, Twitter account, mentioning in annual report of whatever club of travel writers, all uploaded from somewhere, non-valid ISBN and very dodgy, but now finally there is proof that "T.R. Threston" is completely made up! Not even her photoes ar real! That photo from her facebook-"fan" page? Fake! The one from her wordpress page? Fake! Her Twitter? All are fake! You are asking for proof? Well ... lets take the pic from her facebook-fan page for a minute and compare it to this photo of Jessica Alba at Toronto Film Festival 2007. Please note the people in the background ... of course she COULD have asked those who were in the background of Jessica Alba back then, to come join her at exactly the same place to take that photo with exactly the same clothings she might have borrowed them froom Jessica Alba, since she knows all the celebs!), and damn: the same figure, - theoretically, - but ... naaah ... that one is photoshopped! (^_^) And yeah ... all updates on my TALK page ... on all the findings on the Threston-clan! (I still can't believe how someone could have gone through all the trouble making that up!) LagondaDK (talk) 20:23, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

@LagondaDK: that's astonishing. I have been assuming that she does actually exist, but I begin to wonder even about that. Surely some of her countless twitter/Facebook followers will have noticed that she has borrowed Jessica's hair and necklace? I wonder how long the Wikipedia link will stay on her Facebook page.

I have been boggling my mind over all the things wrong with the self-published book commissioned by her and presented as a reference: author's name is "McHugh" outside, but "McHug" in the text; Edward is described as "a Knights Templar"; "effected" for "affected"; "the family was of nobility class" reads oddly to me, not what a real genealogist would write; and anyway false because the general use of "nobility" is the peerage, Barons and higher, not knights or baronets, and there is no attempt to show anything above the rank of Knight; lot of fluff about how the Templar titles are hereditary, all quoted from the site of the modern Knights Templar who have no connection with the medieval ones - in fact the medieval ones were celibate monks, so no question of the title being hereditary. If she was going to fake noble ancestry, she might have done it more convincingly. Last but not least, there are extensive references cited to that well-known non-RS, Wikipedia! JohnCD (talk) 19:31, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I don’t really understand it myself. I mean: that extend of work that has been put into that fake identity or rather identities … As for her facebook contacts: a lot of them are as fake as she is! Take “Andre D’ Orleans” for instance … didn’t we delete his article one or two days ago because he was not noteworthy and the author belonged to AustralianThreston’s sock-farm anyway? Then there is the motivation: why would you do something like that? For the sake of intellectual self-flagellation? There is always money behind it and I somehow believe it has to be money behind this scheme somehow too. But how could you make profit from an article on Wikipedia? You don’t! But you could build up a reputation, a fake reputation. I realized, that all those fake connections of hers, her fake facebook-contacts, business-contacts and so on were somehow related to either publishing, society, celebrities and fashion. There is even a glossy magazine available as PDF file … (its not all that) … with T.R. Threston as editor. And then you come across blog entries mentioning Rose Goodhall and T.R. Threstion, introducing them as “the model” and “travel writer” … the blogger herself claiming to be a fashion designer for wedding dresses, then there is mentioning of a photo-shoot by a model named Angelique Romano, praising T.R. Threston as well … It all hints into the direction of fashion and modeling. Nothing like the catwalk in Paris or Milano, but still … very down to earth modeling, for wedding-dress magazines or modern street-style or stuff like that … That did remind me of a rip-off business built on teenage girl’s hopes and dreams of becoming a model. You’d tell them how beautiful they are, and offer them a photo shoot and they would pay you good for it and also pay you to get their file with a model agency. Since there are so many out there it only makes sense that you’d have to tell them a thing or two about how experienced you are and with whom you are working with and those kids go home, get online and check Google for more information and you will end up on fan pages, blogs of unknown models, magazines and then there is the trustworthy chairwoman of the New York Travel Writers Agency and whatnot … Or how about this: T.R. Threston was said to have been active with KIVA ... an organisation that is supposed to collect money for microfinancing in third world countries but apparently it had been uncovered as a lot of money-collecting and borrowing it to fake people who did not even exist. That too was backed up by fake identities, fake employees, fake social-media accounts and so on ... LagondaDK (talk) 20:21, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I believe I figured it out now: It has to be part of that KIVA scam! … T.R. Threston is presented as the Team Leader of this KIVA group and – what a coincidence – she herself has given a loan and Angelique too, who has praised T.R. Threston before on how great the cooperation in modeling was … as a team leader they have to give her a story to back her up, thats why they put that much effort into developing her, giving her a facebook-page and whatnot. The nobility articles on Threstonites from the Middle Ages only served to make her own Wikipedia article relevant as a decendant of nobility! Thats gotta be it! LagondaDK (talk) 20:54, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Regarding :Articles for creation/Ted Neward

Hi JohnCD, I'm looking for some more references and will improve the article soon. Just give me couple of more months, I will correct it for sure. Thanks.

Akatyayan (talk) 09:34, 4 August 2014 (UTC)Akatyayan

@Akatyayan: No worries! It will only go back on the deletion list if it is left untouched for another six months. JohnCD (talk) 11:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Parisam vaippu

Thanks for bringing the undeletion to my attention. I'll most likely propose AfD, as the article seems to be a cut/paste copycvio job from the blog post here (which is dated 2009 as far as I can see). PaintedCarpet (talk) 14:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Wanees Zarour Page

Hello JohnCD, thank you for explaining the deletion of the page I created for Wanees Zarour. Would it be possible to restore the page but edit it to remove infringing text? Once it's back up, I can fill it with more neutral statements from recent reviews. Thank you! Isanaht (talk) 00:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

@Isanaht: sorry, we can't restore copyright material, even temporarily. I can email you a copy, if you enable email on your account. To do that, click "Preferences" at the top of the screen, and on the "User profile" tab, at the bottom, enter your email address (which will not be visible to me or anyone) and check the box marked "Enable email from other users". JohnCD (talk) 11:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

@JohnCD: thank you - an email would be great. then can I just recreate the page without the copyrighted material? I've enabled email on my account. Isanaht (talk) 15:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

@Isanaht: copy emailed. Yes, you can re-create the page, but check out WP:Your first article and WP:Copy-paste and take care to keep the tone neutral. The most important thing is to provide references which discuss him in some depth, see WP:Notability (people) and WP:Notability (summary). JohnCD (talk) 21:55, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

@JohnCD: thank you very much! I read through the articles you mentioned and I have rewritten the page. Please let me know if you notice issues with the page as I continue to build on it. Isanaht (talk) 01:59, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Criptografia de Chave Pública sem Certificado

I am so sorry, I wanted to create a portuguese version and commited a mistake. I will start in wikipedia contributing in my mother language after that I will try to write in English too.

Marcosccorrea (talk) 22:32, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject TAFI

	Hello, JohnCD. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's articles for improvement. Feel free to nominate an article for improvement at the project's Nominated articles page. Also feel free to contribute to !voting for new weekly selections at the project's talk page. If interested in joining, please add your name to the list of members. NorthAmerica1000 16:59, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Please review improvements to deleted LMDB article?

I'm an employee of Symas and I am researching why our database software, Lightning Memory-mapped Database has so far been denied an article on Wikipedia in spite of the fact that the database itself meets Wikipedia's own published criteria for a dedicated page (notability, etc- I read the whole thing). A deleted article exists here. The article was admittedly thin when it was first deleted, but the article's history is interesting because it contains what appear to be legitimate COI concerns (more reading) directed at the person who initiated the discussion that ended with the article's deletion.

I note that the last activity concerning reinstatement of the article took place in October of last year and that it has undergone steady improvements since then. To my eye, the current version of the article meets Wikipedia's published guidelines for stand-alone articles. Could you possibly take a quick look at the article and comment on any shortcomings that might still exist?

Thanks Mhardin42 (talk) 23:50, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Delete both Bidhu Bhusan Das and Prabhat Nalini Das

Dear John:

I'm not going to contest you. Professor Bidhu Bhusan Das was one of India's most venerated academics. Both of them taught across the country, were educational administrators with high profile posts and were legends before the internet came of age, and before articles went on line. In their time, they were mentioned every day, in both the national and local media. Both of them have taught two chief Justices and other justices of India's Supreme Court, cabinet ministers, chief ministers of India's provinces, writers, celebrated poets, administrators, scientists, artists, intellectuals and other legends: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-otherstates/call-for-greater-industryacademia-collaboration-in-research/article5199548.ece. Considering the flotsam that have Wikipedia pages, I find it supremely ironical that you would not merely allude to deletion, but "speedy deletion" of two of India's most outstanding public intellectuals. Do refer to this article in The Hindu on Prof. Bidhu Bhusan Das: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-otherstates/call-for-greater-industryacademia-collaboration-in-research/article5199548.ece. Dr. Shashi Tharoor is former Under Secretary General of the UN, a former minister, and an internationally known diplomat, leader and author and spoke in the most glowing terms about Prof. Bidhu Bhusan Das. Here's an entry on Bidhu Bhusan Das in the Library of Congress: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n89267884.html.

Having said that, I'll say I find your tone rather offensive, and this entire matter distasteful. It seems to be in the manner of a witch hunt. Please delete these immediately. Prof. Prabhat Nalini Das, (please see this article in a leading daily on her in The Telegraph: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110417/jsp/orissa/story_13863557.jsp I know, would ask that you delete the page on her immediately. Her real life reputation is way ahead of Wikipedia - there are, literally, millions of people who know her just as they know Prof. Bidhu Bhusan Das.

Zachary5050 (talk) 15:39, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Delete both Bidhu Bhusan Das and Prabhat Nalini Das immediately, please

http://www.un.org/ga/president/61/follow-up/thematic-civilizations/tharoor.shtml

To give you a little perspective, Dr. Shashi Tharoor, who delivered the memorial lecture on Bidhu Bhusan Das, and would not stop praise of a legendary personality, was a candidate for UN Secretary General:

http://www.un.org/ga/president/61/follow-up/thematic-civilizations/tharoor.shtml

Please delete both pages ASAP. I do no justice to their impeccable - and celebrated - life's work by having deletion notices on their bios put up on Wikipedia!!!

http://www.un.org/ga/president/61/follow-up/thematic-civilizations/tharoor.shtml

Zachary5050 (talk) 15:58, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

• I have replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 16:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Cutest Penguin's page

Dear John:

I am a native speaker of English. So was Prof. Bidhu Bhusan Das; and so is Prof. Prabhat Nalini Das. Prof. Bidhu Bhusan Das studied at Harvard, Columbia and the most sought-after of all Oxford colleges, Christ Church. At Christ Church, amongst others, Nobel laureate W. H. Auden taught him poetry, J.R.R. Tolkien taught him medieval English literature, and logical positivist, A. J. Ayer, taught him philosophy. That is only the beginning.

How supremely ironical that someone with the name "Cutest Penguin" should sit in judgement over him. And, forgive me, but where on earth is Indraprastha University???

I have corrected Cutest Penguin's page - it is teeming with numerous and horrendous grammatical (in bold) and punctuation errors (P). This is no native speaker of English - he is not a speaker of English at all!

It behoves Wikipedia to adhere to minimal benchmarks of linguistic correctness while nominating "editors". Otherwise, your efforts end up not merely as an exercise in futility; sadly, it ends up as farce.

I wish you well, but please maintain quality control.

Zachary5050 (talk) 17:17, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hey! there, this is Cutest Penguin (pen name). I'm a (insert) native resident of India and most of my contents and articles will be/are about India and Indian personalities. Your suggestions will be appreciated on my Talk Page! Personal life I personally believe that the true identity should not be enclosed since this could be risky. I remember some one who really made my user-page horrible by adding undesirable contents and images. But I(insert) would like to say one thing that, Wikipedia should bring some programmes at (missing article) University and school level so that young mind can be a part of Wikipedia foundation. Once (P)' while addressing a educational seminar in a public school near New Delhi.(P)'I questioned one of very young mind, do he uses Internet? He replied-(P) "Yes, I do use Google, MiniC**p and Wikipedia". (P)_{Subscript text}In response to him (P) I questioned, what is Wikipedia? He answered,(P) "it is a website where any one can edit" (P) adding (P) "I edited once but someone deleted and send me very dangerous messages, something like your IP will be blocked". (P) With this experience I would like to urge Wikipedia and other editors to be not only strict but humble as well while posting any warning messages. Editing History

Kamala Nehru with her Husband and daughter Indira Gandhi As a unregistered user I made several minor and major edits on Wikipedia, but while editing a semi-protected article I was advised by Wikipedia to register myself in order to make contribution under semi-protected article (P) so on 5th June 2014 I registered myself and became one of thousands of volunteer Wikipedian. After contributing my very first own article about VC of GGSIPU, Prof. Anil Kumar Tyagi I became addicted to Wikipedia and made several contribution on Wikipedia. One of surprising thing (!) I found on Wikipedia is the copyright policy, there is no doubt it is very essential to deal with legal issues but some time I found many editors making fun of it. One such incident I found about Kamala Nehru College one of reputed college in Delhi, which was deleted in 2008 as per CSD G11 and when I nominated Vivekananda Institute of Professional Studies for AfD it got challenged stating that a institutional organization is exception case and cannot be deleted since it offers recognized degree. After studying the Wikipedia policy for notability and verifiability I withdrew my AfD request and improved the article to meet the Wikipedia standards and maybe that the reason I have kept it in my improved and expend list of articles.

You got the article but the talk page is still there

Hello J. You nuked that article (and blocked the editor) created by Mujeebmurda (talk · contribs) but the wikiproject banners that they put on the talk page are still there. Thanks for your efforts in dealing with this. MarnetteD|Talk 17:55, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Oops you got it while I was typing. Nice work. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 17:56, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

undeletion request for Anamika Mishra wikipedia page

Here is the link of sakaal times newspaper link for Anamika Mishra's Latest Interview http://www.sakaaltimes.com/Tiny.aspx?K=a1SMD .This clearly proves that Anamika Mishra is a notable and well known Indian author. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.38.17.205 (talk) 20:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Clicking on the "redlink" Anamika Mishra shows the deletion log. Because the page was repeatedly re-created, it has been "salted" - protected against creation - by administrator DangerousPanda (talk), so you should make your request to him. JohnCD (talk) 21:10, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

proposed improvement of two pages

Hi:

Please tell me how I could improve the pages on Prabhat Nalini Das and Bidhu Bhusan Das.I have access to some - a few - significant articles from mainstream newspapers, but, as I mentioned earlier, they were famous and venerated before the internet came of age.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachary5050 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Zachary5050 (talk) 20:31, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

@Zachary5050: I apologise for my delay in replying. The important thing is to find references that confirm what the articles say. Published print sources such as newspapers are acceptable: see WP:Citing sources#Newspaper articles for the information needed. I have placed a message at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Help requested with referencing which I hope will bring advice and assistance. JohnCD (talk) 22:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Article Regarding Adilson Bitta Lima Removed

Hello JohnCD,

I'm writing in response to the deletion of the Adilson "Bitta" Lima's page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Adilson_Lima).

I am a student of his Brazilian Jiu Jitsu lineage (my 5th degree black belt instructor is Bitta's first black belt) and can confirm he is a legit martial artist. This can be verified through countless YouTube videos, old Brazilian newspaper articles, magazine articles, old photographs with Helio Gracie (the founder of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu), through references from Brazilian Jiu Jitsu legends (e.g., Renzo Gracie, himself) and the IBJJF (International Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Federation).

Please let me know how to start the process of reinstating his page.

Thank you,

Iambrodybjj (talk) 04:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

@Iambrodybjj: as this article was deleted after a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adilson Lima, it cannot simply be restored. I have moved it to a sub-page in your user space at User:Iambrodybjj/Adilson Lima where you can work on it. What it needs is better references to show how he meets Wikipedia's WP:Notability standard, which looks for "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." For MMA fighters, there is a more guidance at WP:MMANOT. I will put some links on your user talk page with general advice. You may be able to get help by posting a request on the talk page of WP:WikiProject Mixed martial arts, a group of users who are interested in this subject.

Once you have improved the article, let me know and I will decide what to do next; probably I will refer it to WP:Deletion review to see whether there is agreement to restore it to the main encyclopedia. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Please reinstate Adilson Lima's wikipedia page

Hi,

I am writing regarding a deleted page on Adilson 'Bitta' Lima, who had a wikipedia page before it was deleted in February of this year. Here is the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Adilson_Lima

What was the reason for the delete? Was it just the MMA record issue? Adilson Lima has also had a storied BJJ career including recent wins in the Pan American Games, and World Championships. Links to just a few of his notable wins are (do a search for Adilson Lima and you'll see him in the Super Heavy Weight Black Belts) given in the ref section. here,here, and here.

Adilson Lima has been a substantial person in the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu community for the better part of 30 years. Deleting his page because he did not compete in a 'top tier' mixed martial arts promotion seems like overkill to me. It ignores the well-sourced information available on him with respect to the BJJ community and the important role that he has in teaching and training current top competitors.

On top of that, his MMA competitions were done in the mid-1990's before the UFC became the established organization it is today. Obviously, back in those days the other 'top tier' MMA organizations did not even exist. Here is a page from Sherdog.com, a well respected website that tracks confirmed professional MMA records on Adilson Lima:

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Adilson-Lima-2012

Finally, on the issue of notability of championships. The International Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Federation is the leading global organization that runs tournaments and does belt credentialing for the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu community. The three tournaments I sourced above, which Adilson Lima won, are all IBJJF tournaments. If that is not notable, then I suggest that you remove Morihei Ueshiba's Wikipedia page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morihei_Ueshiba

as this person, by Peter Rehse's own use of the notability criteria, do not apply to the very person who founded his own martial art of Aikido.

68.65.167.69 (talk) 06:31, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

See the reply to Iambrodybjj (talk) just above this. I have moved the article into his user-space at User:Iambrodybjj/Adilson Lima, and you are very welcome to help improve it there. See WP:Your first article for general advice, and WP:Notability and WP:MMANOT. JohnCD (talk) 21:41, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Edited pages

John:

Thank you for editing both Prabhat Nalini Das and Bidhu Bhusan Das. The pages are wonderful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachary5050 (talk • contribs) 10:15, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Failed AFD process?

You added an {{AFD}} template to Emad Rahim, but you don't appear to have actually created a discussion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:51, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, you sorta created a discussion, but apparently you created it in your sandbox. You might wanto address that. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:54, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Patience, I'm getting there... JohnCD (talk) 13:56, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

OK. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

undeletion request

Hello, Iam Naresh Poonapalli My userpage was MfD nomination in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Naresh Kumar Raja. Sorry, I'm trying to correct this. Naresh Poonapalli (talk) 13:15, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

No. All those pages were just you and your friends writing about each other and chatting with each other. That is what social-networking sites like Facebook are for, but Wikipedia is different. JohnCD (talk) 16:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Wiki pages

I will be producing a page on a university professor within the next few days. That will certainly be biographical and promotional as it will list her writing, et. al. Will this be an unsuitable page as well?JB, DRAGA design 18:13, 18 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barenose (talk • contribs) 18:13, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 20:58, 18 August 2014 (UTC)