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Hello, I just wanted to know what your opinion is on this template. It would be nice to have any input on it. ~ Troy 19:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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reply to Liju's letter

Dear Liju,

I received your message.I was under the impression that the head of the Malankara Jacobite Syrian Church 'H.B. Baselios Thomas I' didnot claim the title of Catholicos of The East and Malankara Metropolitan.He was ordained by the supreme head of the Antiochian Syriac Church 'H.H Zakka I Iwas' under the title 'Catholicos of India' .'You yourself have created a page in wikipedia named Catholicos of India (title).This itself proves that the title 'Catholicos of the East & Malankara Metropolitan' belongs to the Supreme head of the 'Indian(Malankara) Orthodox Church' and this is supported by the verdict of 'The Supreme Court Of India'.

It should be also noted that I have not added any kind of statements in my article which hurts or ridicules any group.I strongly believe that the article contains true facts widely accepted in the Christian community .Therefore I ask you not to redirect the page to 'viewpoint of both the churches'. If you disagree with any of my statements above please do clear it with me.

brother in Christ,Arun Arunvroy (talk) 15:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

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List of Catholicos of the East

Let the churches offically split, then we can add your wish. Further, No time in history there were two catholicos of the East in the Oriental Orthodox Church. How can suddenly two catholicos ??. Accept the fact that both are parallels.

Even if u say both are seperated, that is not acceptable. Since both claims the same properties and civil suits continuing. Let there be an end. Then we all accept your claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexyalex (talk • contribs) 08:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

• Yes. I said the truth. Anyone can enquire of the reality. The above said people are discussing of churhces, but the article List of Catholicos of the East is of those individals who uses the title Catholicos of the East. Lijujacob is purposely trying to make it a church based article. It has nothing in connection with which denomination or fraction it belong. It is only connected with the persons who uses the title.Further, i like to point out that with a simple example. How can a Catholicos take the name of Baselios Paulose II with out a predecessor with name Baselious Paulose I . For ur kind information, the reality is that there exists two adminstrative parallael fractions in the Orthodox church of India. One call itself Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church and other Jacobite Syrian Orthodox Church. There were civil disputes for authoirty and power. The matter was heared in the Supreme Court of India and decided in vague in 1995 and is reported in AIR 1995 SC 2001. For clarification and execution of this judgement there are various cases existing in several courts in India today also. As per the Court order, Patrairch of Antioch is the supreme spiritual leader and the Catholicos cum Malankara Metropolitan is the authoritative and temporal leader of the whole of orthodox church in India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexyalex (talk • contribs) 12:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

'Even if u say both are seperated, that is not acceptable'.

Its not me Alex, it is everyone except you that is saying that the church is divided. Wikipedia says the church is divided, Media Says it is divided, church heads say it is divided, politicians say it is divided.

As I said before the supreme head of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, H.H. Marthoma Dydmos Ist has himself said that he is the supreme authority in the church and there is none except god above him. Please see this(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8987266008315730306)

Even if the church is not divided, from wiki's point of view if a section(as you say) say they are seperate, then they are. ܠܝܓܘ Liju ലിജു לג"ו (talk) 13:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

• Do Jacobite fraction has a church or institution of thier own built before 2002. AS per the court order, even if there is a seperation it happened in 2002. Jacobite fraction if say is sepearate it wont in the ultimate get the proeprties. I dont want to c such a situation. I want both to work togegther and form a new constitution or sort for common good.

Further, ur saying that there of God above Catholicos. Catholicos cannot be judged by Patriarch it has a seperate individuality, but ofcause not equalant with Pentarchial Patriarchate of Antioch. Even if Didymos or anyone say they they are independent every one know the truth as well as what is there in the Constitution. Liju i can understand ur concern and feelings. I too have concerns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexyalex (talk • contribs) 00:52, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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Deletion of history from Jacobite Syrian Christian Church

I noticed that you deleted all the history from Jacobite Syrian Christian Church by removing the template "Indian Christian History 52-1653" which contained a) a extremely brief summary of history, b) "the" chart showing the lineage of all churches formed as part of the St. Thomas Community, and c) a link to "History of the Saint Thomas Chrisitians" (also foreshortened to 1653). I didn't notice an edit summary. I was curious to understand your reasoning behind this deletion of history.Student7 (talk) 17:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I have no axe to grind. I am totally neutral on the history not belonging to any of the churches. Why can you not 1) delete the offending item (less desirable) or 2) leave it with a qualifying remark - "Some researchers believe that... but the prevailing view is that...." That is more desirable IMO because it covers all bases. Particularly if there is a WP:FOOT someplace. I'd add it myself, but have already been accused of pro-Vedic, pro-Brahman beliefs, which is truly a laugh since I barely know what these terms mean! :)

I knew when I blended the history of five churches that there would be problems, but having five experts focusing on one history has to be superior to having five experts working on their own (pov) history. Student7 (talk) 11:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Jacobite Syrian Christian Church

I just reset the article Jacobite Syrian Christian Church. While I found your changes to be readable, maybe even credible, they were mostly unfootnoted. Nor did you explain why you deleted the file drawing on how the churches separated in the area. You said that "one size does not fit all." I don't know what that means. It is history. I would hope that "one size would fit all" when historical dates are talked about.

Please fill out edit summaries for all entries so that editors will understand what you are doing and why. You just replaced the entire history of the church with your deletion of the template. This should require a detailed explanation on the talk page and perhaps an equally detailed discussion on the template you replaced to explain what is wrong with it. See Template:Indian Christian History 52-1653 and the common history it links to: History of the Saint Thomas Christians.

A minor matter, you left an outline to be filled out later. We don't do this to readers. They will not understand a mess. Okay to comment out the outline and fill it in later. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 14:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

An afterthought: you seem to have some good ideas. If you can back them with WP:RELY citations and good WP:NPOV reasons about what is wrong with the old text, there's no reason that not only can this article be improved, but can serve as a solid basis to improve articles on other Christian churches in the area, as well. Some are really a mess, historically. Student7 (talk) 14:38, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. You have made some valid points. I would like to discuss them:

"The history always is written by victors." Somewhat true. But there are the following articles: Goa Inquisition and Coonan Cross Oath, neither of which is complimentary to the West!

"History is not objective but subjective." Sometimes, the closer the date, the worse it is. But while we can't get an objective article yet on Hugo Chavez, we are able to on Pope Alexander VI and the Crusades, I think. So time may help.

"If a Syro Malabar Catholic write Indian Syrian Church history it will have a Catholic perspective, if a Syriac Orthodox Christian write it, it will have a catholic perspective." I am a Latin Catholic residing in the US. I do not have a "slant." I am not trying to make the Orthodox "look bad" nor any other branch. I have no axe to grind other than to try to present history as objectively as possible and make all Christian churches put forth their best in an article. They cannot put forth their best when all histories disagree. They all look silly! If one reads like nonsense, it casts doubt on all the others, as well.

"So I am against a template of common history for all the Syrian Churches in India." Why is it to the advantage of one church to say something happened in the 8th century and another not to say that existed? I don't see the point of not sharing a common history.

It would be like the United States saying (in one state), that Pilgrims founded a colony, and another state saying that the French founded a colony and omitting that the Pilgrims did. While we have better documentation, there's no reason to discard, underemphasize, nor overemphasize, history. This is something that intelligent people should be able to collaborate on. There is a great deal more mutual sharing of belief between the editors of the Indian churches than there is among the editors of the Crusades or the pope!

"No Syrian Church in India agree on a thing in history other than the arrival of St. Thomas ;-D." One of the things I demur on since I'm not really that convinced myself. You put a smiley so I assume you agree that it might not be 100% provable.

"So what I was planning to do was to write a history myself adding references later." - Sorry. Can't discuss this proposal. You really should not do that. References must come with the text. Try developing it in your sandbox, if you find developing it online is too confining. On the other hand, please discuss broad changes first in the article's talk page.

"Also an accurate study on the history of the church in India is impossible because there are not enough evidences on the pre-colonial years. Most even destroyed or set to file during the inquisition by Aleixo de Menezes." Let's face it - it was hard to preserve written documents in a tropical climate. There are thousands of documents left to be found in the mid-East. Hardly any in India. Climate was mostly at fault. Menezes didn't help, I am sure.

"Even colonial writing are biased. Portuguese say that the Catholic church ruled over Indian Syrians, but Protestant Claudius buchanan says that they were ruled by Antiochian Patriarch." Here is material over which reasonable people can disagree and insert in the article - BOTH sides. Reason - there is no reason (WP:BIAS) for the Portuguese, IMO, to have stated that Indian Syrians rules Catholic Church, although that is a peculiar statement. Are you sure? Anyway, the distant rule of Antioch may be equally true and valid. Presumably we can present both. If they have critics, those can be presented as well.

So: no, there doesn't have to be one history on which everyone agrees. We can present both sides in a single article if they each have WP:RELY sources. This is what I tried to do when I combined various church histories in the History of the Saint Thomas Christians. A lot of stuff in there did not have proper WP:FOOTnotes and could be deleted or replaced or given citations, or re-written. Another editor has suggested replacing it, which is fine. But there should be more, valid citations than mine!

What do you think? Student7 (talk) 15:15, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I think the commentator on Talk:Mar_Thoma_Church#File:Nazrani_Evolution is a professor in India. He has had some remarks on bad editing/history himself. While he, too, is unenthused about trying to arrive at a common history, it doesn't take more than a few educated, objective people, like yourselves, who know their topic, to outweigh the newbies that try to make unreferenced changes that don't make sense. The future could look bright with just one or two more like you that can collaborate, even if you don't agree "perfectly" on all topics. Student7 (talk) 16:20, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for participating. The project will be greatly enriched by your presence, comments and interest! Student7 (talk) 14:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Out to lunch?

My recent comments on File talk:Nasrani Evolution.jpg was predicated on the mistaken observation by me that we were (finally) getting feedback from User:Rahuljohnson4u who never responds to anything. I couldn't believe our luck!

It was you, which was nice, but may explain my odd retorts! It was Rahuljohnson4u who created the drawing and who I would like to defend it, though I appreciate hearing from anybody knowlegeable, of course. Thanks! Student7 (talk) 20:14, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

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Christianity in other wikis

As many of you might now, there are a large number of other Wikimedia Foundation projects, including WikiSource, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, WikiQuote, and others. I certainly believe that Wikibooks and Wikiquote might be among the more directly relevant sister projects. If any of you can think of any particular efforts in these other projects which you think would benefit from more input, please let us know here, so we can help spread the word around.

By John Carter

Spotlight on the Outreach department

Ichthus will spotlight a different subproject or workgroup of WikiProject Christianity. This edition will spotlight on our vital Outreach department. This comparatively small, but vital, project unit is dedicated to welcoming new editors to Wikipedia and the Christianity related content, and to providing information to the various project members, in forms like this newsletter.

The scope of articles with which this group deals is truly enormous, and, given the wide variety of material with which we deal, we would very much welcome the input of more individuals, particularly individuals who are particularly knowledgeable of the less well-known and less frequently monitored articles related to Christianity.

Speaking personally, I would be very, very gratified if we were to have this become a very, very large and active unit, with members from the broad spectrum of Christian beliefs, practices, and groups. The broader the spectrum and areas of expertise of members we have, the better we will be able to help manage the content. Please consider whether you believe you might be able to contribute in this vital area.

By John Carter

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Ichthus: June 2012

ICHTHUS

June 2012

Membership report

The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 331 active members. We would like to welcome User:Sanju87, User:Psalm84, User:Zegron, User:Jargon777, User:Calu2000, User:Gilderien, User:Ronallenus, Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

From the Editor

Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know what you think of the new departments, and if there are any other suggestions for departments you would like to see. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

Church of the month

by Berthold Werner Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai

Vote for the project mascot

We had last month asked our members to help "bring into the fold" Wikipe-tan as the project's mascot. Voting will take place this month for which image we should adopt at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Wikipe-tan. Please take a moment to review the images and vote for whichever is your favorite, or, if you so prefer, suggest an additional one.

By John Carter

DYK

• ...that Anna of Kashin, a Russian medieval princess, was twice canonized as a holy protectress of women who suffer the loss of relatives?

Calendar

Thie coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.

Featured content and GA report

Alec Douglas-Home recently achieved FA status. This picture, in the Church of the Month section, was recently promoted to Featured Picture status. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.

Wikimedia Foundation report

Wikisource currently has many old texts available, most of them in the public domain. This is a potentially very valuable source for several things, including for instance links to Biblical verses, because we know that it will, basically, be around as long as we are.

By user:John Carter with inspiration from History2007

Christian art

This section would include a rather large image of a specific work of art, with a link to the most directly relevant article.

Suggestion: Resurrection of Christ, an English 15th century Nottingham alabaster. Groups of painted relief panels were sold via dealers to churches on a budget , who had wood frameworks made to hold them locally. From a huge new donation of images from the Walters Art Museum to Commons, see

By Johnbod

Spotlight

A new WikiProject relating directly to Christian history is being developed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian history. Also, a group specifically devoted to the Mennonites and other Anabaptists is now up and running at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Anabaptist work group. Anyone interested in assisting with the development of these groups and topics is more than welcome to do so.

By John Carter

I believe

... in the statements contained in the Nicene Creed. I believe that the Bible is one of the two defining bases for belief. The other is the Sacred tradition, which provides us with means of interpreting the Scriptures, as well as some teachings which have been handed on by God outside of the scriptures. I believe that the Magisterium has been empowered to fill this interpretative function. I believe that clerical celibacy is a rule that should generally be followed. I am a member of the Catholic Church.

By John Carter

Help requests

Please let us know if there are any particular areas, either individual articles or topics, which you believe would benefit from outside help from a variety of other editors. We will try to include such requests in future issues.

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Ichthus: July 2012

ICHTHUS

July 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 336 active members. We would like to welcome User:Emilymadcat, User:Toa Nidhiki05, User:DonutGuy, and User:RCNesland, Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know what you think of the new departments, and if there are any other suggestions for departments you would like to see. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

Church of the month

by User:JaGa Mission Santa Clara de Asis

Vote for the project mascot
We had last month asked our members to help "bring into the fold" Wikipe-tan as the project's mascot. Voting will take place this month for which image we should adopt at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Wikipe-tan. Please take a moment to review the images and vote for whichever is your favorite, or, if you so prefer, suggest an additional one.

By John Carter

Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-July through mid-September) includes days dedicated to the honor of Mary Magdalene, James, son of Zebedee, Ignatius Loyola, Saint Dominic, Joseph of Arimathea, and the Transfiguration of Jesus.

Featured content and GA report
Grade I listed churches in Cheshire was recently promoted to Featured List status. This picture was recently promoted to Featured Picture status. Bartolome de las Casas and Edmund the Martyr were promoted to GA level this past month. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.

Wikimedia Foundation report

Wikibooks welcomes the development of textbooks of all kinds, children's books, recipes, and other material. It currently has just under 2500 books, including several Wikijunior books for the 12 and under population. There is, at present, not even a book on Christianity. Anyone interested in helping develop such a textbook is more than welcome to do so.

By John Carter

Christian art

The portrait of Sir Thomas More by Hans Holbein the Younger.

By John Carter

Spotlight
A new WikiProject relating directly to Christian history is being developed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian history. Anyone interested in assisting with the development of these groups and topics is more than welcome to do so.

By John Carter

I believe
... in the tradition of Thomas the Apostle, Mar Addai, and Saint Bartholomew. I believe that Jesus had two essences (or natures), human and divine, unmingled, that are everlastingly united in one personality. I am a member of the Assyrian Church of the East.

By John Carter

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Help requests
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WikiProject Christianity August 2012 newsletter

ICHTHUS

August 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 341 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:David_FLXD, User:Alexsbecker, User:Penguin 236, User:Gugi001, User:John D. Rockerduck, and User:Margaret9mary. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter

Church of the month

by User:Diliff Frauenkirche (Church of Our Blessed Lady) in Munich, taken from the tower of St. Peter's Church

Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of Wikipedia:Wikipedia-Books. Right now, Category:Wikipedia books on Christianity contains only 12 books. We certainly could have at least one book on each major grouping within Christianity. One of the challenges for this month, then, is working to put together books on relevant topics. For this month, one contest is for editors to assemble the basic Wikipedia books for each of the main topics of the extant related projects. When finished, they should their creation of the books at the main Christianity noticeboard, and at the end of the month the project will award barnstars to those who have made a significant efforts in developing this underdeveloped content.

Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. As biographies are often a bit easier, this month we are choosing two biographies: Karl Behm, which has yet to be started, and the currently Stub-class article Nerses IV the Gracious. A barnstar will be awarded to any editor who can get these articles up to DYK quality level and ultimately selected for the DYK section of the main page.

Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-August through mid-September) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Bartholomew the Apostle, Nativity of Mary, and the Exaltation of the Cross.

Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, William de Chesney (sheriff), Knights of Columbus, and Angelus Silesius were promoted to GA level. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.

Wikimedia Foundation report

Wikinews is our sister site for developing news stories. Several events relating to Christianity, like the installation of bishops for instance, do not necessarily merit extensive coverage in wikipedia encyclopedic articles, but can and easily could be covered at greater length in a news article format. Given the number of significant news events that relate to religion, including claims of miracles, assignment of bishops and other religious leaders, church conferences, and other events, this site provides an excellent opportunity to provide in-depth coverage of current events at greater length than wikipedia.

Christian art

Christ Crucified by Diego Velazquez.

Spotlight

One of our newer editors, User:David_FLXD, has recently gone through much of our content related to Methodism and assessed it. We are very grateful for his efforts, and that of all the editors who have had a role in developing that content. We have every reason to believe that this will make it significantly easier for the Methodism work group to create and develop content relevant to Methodism. To help that along, we certainly encourage everyone to do what they can to help David and the other Methodism editors to bring the content relevant to their tradition to the highest possible level of quality.

I believe
... in the Holy Trinity, the sacraments of Baptism and Holy Communion, the Arminian conception of free will through God's prevenient grace, and the regular renewal of the individual's covenant with God. I am a Methodist.

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Help requests
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WikiProject Christianity September 2012 newsletter

ICHTHUS

September 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 344 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Floating Boat, User:Dewey420, and User:Jpacobb. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter

Church of the month

by User:Diliff The Chapel of Keble College, Oxford

Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of Wikipedia:Wikipedia-Books. Right now, Category:Wikipedia books on Christianity contains only 12 books. We certainly could have at least one book on each major grouping within Christianity. One of the challenges for this month, then, is working to put together books on relevant topics. For this month, one contest is for editors to assemble the basic Wikipedia books for each of the main topics of the extant related projects. When finished, they should their creation of the books at the main Christianity noticeboard, and at the end of the month the project will award barnstars to those who have made a significant efforts in developing this underdeveloped content.

Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. Last month's challenge articles were Karl Beth and Nerses IV the Gracious. Both articles are currently candidates for the DYK section of the main page. This month's challenge articles are the Stub-class article James Hastings and the not yet started Rudolf Sohm, A barnstar will be awarded to any editor who can get these articles up to DYK quality level and ultimately selected for the DYK section of the main page.

Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-September through mid-October) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of the Martyrs of Korea, Saint Matthew, Vincent de Paul, Michaelmas, Saint Jerome, Theresa of Lisieux, the Feast of the Guardian Angels, Francis of Assisi, Our Lady of the Rosary, and Teresa of Avila.

Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Albertus Soegijapranata, and Reginald Heber were promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Greater Manchester was promoted to Featured List, and Jackie Hudson, Joyce Kilmer, Divine command theory, Bosa of York and Argument from morality were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Church of Saint Benoit, Istanbul, All Saints Church, Hollingbourne, Neustädter Kirche, Hannover, St Mary's Church, Kirkby Lonsdale, Albert Ndongmo, If We Are the Body, List of places of worship in Tonbridge and Malling, Kulubnarti church, All Saints Church, Ulcombe, Val-Saint-Lambert Abbey, Igny Abbey, Church of the Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel, Brăila, Places of Worship Registration Act 1855, Collegiate Church of San Gimignano, and St Matthew's Church, Burnley. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Wikimedia Foundation report

As some of you may have seen, the Simple English Wikipedia has been experiencing some difficulties lately. This particular entity could be of great value to several individuals who are trying to learn English. As some of you who do speak foreign languages know, one of the most easily available, and, in general, useful learning aids for people is a text they know already, which allows them to focus on the specific words of the new language. Various recorded readings and translations of the Bible are among the best examples of this. Any efforts to try to enhance this vital means of informing a large segment of our readership is more than welcome. People interested in helping develop it are encouraged to leave a note regarding their specific articles of interest at the Christianity noticeboard. It would be wonderful if we could report some significant contributions to this sister site next month. And, of course, if we do have something to report, those involved would receive our greatest thanks.

Christian art

The Guardian Angel by Pietro da Cortona.

Spotlight

WikiProject Calvinism is one of our more important subprojects. It is specifically devoted to developing content relating to the Calvinist tradition, and the primary point for development of content relating to the Pilgrims, Presbyterians, Reformed churches, Congregational church, Reformed Baptists, and Low church. We definitely encourage everyone to do what they can to help this project develop the content relating to this extremely important Christian tradition.

I believe
... that human nature is insufficient for salvation, and the grace of God is required to do so. I believe that God has preordained who will and will not achieve salvation. I believe that Jesus's atonement was sufficient for the purposes for which it was done. I believe that God's grace is of such power that it can overcome any person's resistance. I believe that those whom God has chosen for salvation will, by the undeniable power of God, persevere in God's grace. I am a Calvinist.

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Help requests
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