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Rider team information

Here's a good site for year by year information on Grand Prix riders and their respective teams: http://www.f1network.net/main/s180/st36833.htm Orsoni (talk) 00:08, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Nazi concentration camps

In regards to "so UNESCO's experts think the proper name should be Nazi-German but of course the wikipedia self-proclaimed experts know better. What we have here is some variation of the "Randy in Boise" phenomenon at its purest."

I read a book about the Holocaust, and it explains that there is an academic dispute over whether to call things "Nazi" or "German." I would imagine that many agencies of many governments and organizations call the concentration camps by different names. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:47, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement warning: Your comment at ANI

Loosmark, your recent comment ([1]) to WP:ANI violates Wikipedia conduct norms, notably WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF and WP:BATTLE. You were previously notified of the arbitration case WP:DIGWUREN, which reiterates the high standards of conduct expected of editors working in this field (Wikipedia:DIGWUREN#Principles) and allows administrators to impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process (Wikipedia:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions). Please consider yourself warned. Any subsequent violation of Wikipedia conduct norms in this topic area may result in sanctions being imposed without further warning. Regards,  Sandstein  06:45, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Accusations of racism

If accusing editors if being "The anti-Polish lobby" and making "continued attacks on Polish editors" isn't accusing people of being racist, I have no idea what could be accusing people of being racist. What would you describe it as an accusation of being? Varsovian (talk) 12:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement warning

Please take note of WP:AE#Result concerning Radeksz (permalink).  Sandstein  14:17, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

F1 car results tables

Hi Loosmark. Thanks for adding results tables to Lotus 95T and Lotus 97T. If you're planning to do any more, can you please use the WP:F1 standard car results table format, an example of which you can find at Ferrari F2008. I'll convert the tables in Lotus 95T and Lotus 97T to the standard format later today. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 02:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Nearly perfect except that for F1 car results, the "Car" column is replaced by "Team" - I've made the change. I also removed the "fastest lap" note, since the 95T didn't score any. DH85868993 (talk) 22:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Again, nearly there. There was some confusion a couple of years back regarding the whole team vs. entrant policy. Using "entrant" with the full name avoids confusion and accurately represents period records. There are quite a few older tables (unfortunately one that DH pointed you to) which use the "team" formulation. However, if you check all the cars from the last two years you will see that they use "entrant". Pyrope 12:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. Sorry. DH85868993 (talk) 13:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Pryop why have you added "Marlboro"? I don't see any reason for adding the name of the sponsor.  Dr. Loosmark  13:48, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

It was the official entrant name that year, as recorded in the FIA entry list and on all official results transcripts. That's what the title sponsor pays their money for, they are an official part of the team identity. Some time the whole team name changes (e.g. Arrows became Footwork, FWRC became ISO Marlboro, and so on), and sometimes it is only a portion of the name that changes. Rather than having to descend into the POV realms of "where do we draw the line" we just use the official entry name in all cases. Pyrope 14:09, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I think we should use McLaren per WP:COMMONNAME.  Dr. Loosmark  14:13, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

WP:CommonNane refers to article titles and casual mentions in the body text, not to statistics recorded in tables. The problem we have is that the term "team" is a relatively modern introduction into F1 in an official sense. Prior to 1980 "team" could refer to one of a number of entities, including the group of people who actually maintained the car at the race, the person or corporate entity that held the entrant's licence, the person who actually paid for the entry into the race, the manufacturer of the car, and so on. Even since 1980 we have had "teams" changing identity and flying under flags of convenience as sponsorship money ebbed and flowed. For example, you can certainly argue that Layton House was actually the March "team" underneath the island blue paint, and that Footwork was Arrows all along, but it depends how you interpret the concept of a "team". In addition, some "teams" actually changed identity over a period of time; where would you draw the line between Frank Williams Racing Cars and Walter Wolf Racing? Anything that is open to interpretation and a non-neutral POV inherently becomes tricky to deal with in WP. Entrant is an unambiguous and officially recorded fact. Using that also allows us to accurately reflect how the cars were run in period. It is because of this complexity that we also use "entrant" as the field in the driver results tables. Pyrope 16:48, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

Hello Loosmark! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 108 article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the article:

1. Karina Szczepkowska-Horowska - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 09:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Churches and Cathedrals

I assume you feel that the Gniezno Cathedral is high due to Royal Coronations.

I also wonder about Płock Cathedral which holds the sarcophagus forming the tomb of two Polish rulers, Władysław I Herman and his son Bolesław III Wrymouth.

Then again Cathedral of Christ the King, Katowice is the largest cathedral in Poland.

Basilica of Our Lady of Licheń is Poland's largest church and one of the largest churches in the world.

I had a look at various pages especially List of largest church buildings in the world. Basilica of Our Lady of Licheń should be High. I would support any of the other three listed above being High and all the rest being mid importance. Jniech (talk) 14:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Karkonosze#Poll_II

There has been a new and expanded preferential poll created on Talk:Karkonosze similar to the recent Ireland poll. The votes from the previous poll could unfortunately not be transferred over to the new system and you may need to recast your vote. I apologise for the inconvenience. —what a crazy random happenstance 04:41, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

F1 car articles

Hey, I notice you're creating articles about F1 cars from the 80s. If you ever need any help with any of those, please let me know, I'm a huge F1 geek and would love to assist in any way I can. Keep up the good work! XXX antiuser ^eh? 09:33, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Revert restrictions

Please note that I have reported you for what I consider to be a breach of your revert restrictions. [2]Varsovian (talk) 10:02, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Peace of Riga Caricature

Loosmark, this is the actual caption on the cartoon in Belarusian: Беларуская: Карыкатура: "Далоў ганебны рыжскі падзел! Ніхай жыве вольная непадзельная селянская Беларусь!" Dr. Dan (talk) 03:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

"Precz z haniebnym rozbiorze Rydze! Niech żyje wolna narodowy niepodzielne Białoruś!" p.s. Concerning your other "small correction", some of the Soviet leadership wanted to export the revolution and some of them wanted to consolidate the revolution in Russia. Dr. Dan (talk) 05:22, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Made an adjustment at the Peace of Riga article concerning "some/most" to many. As for the caricature, the caption is self-explanatory. Please note, that I didn't "note" the Pole's resemblance to Pilsudski, or the ghoulish long, pointed, nails that both parties are using to dig into Belarus. Dr. Dan (talk) 15:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of German-Japanese relations

Hi there. Over the past weeks I majorly expanded the article on German-Japanese relations and really need people to go scan my contributions. I want to set a high quality standard since I'd love to have it featured some day. I'd really appreciate your participation on its nomination for a Good Article at Talk:German–Japanese relations. Thanks in advance! --Gliese876 (talk) 11:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Chełm

Thank you, Dr. L., for your swift and helpful response with the population of Chełm in 1939. I'll certainly add that to the page under the section heading Population. Meanwhile, while I lack access to library resources, my "City or town?" nomenclature query remains open. Might you shed some insight based on the content of the Polish WP page (since I don't read Polish)? --With appreciation, Deborahjay (talk) 11:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

World Series by Renault

As you quote, "The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Please familiarize yourself with World Series by Renault and stop attacking people for improving wikipedia. EeepEeep (talk) 18:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Czuwaj Przemyśl

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Final discussion for Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Hello, I note that you have commented on the first phase of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:

1. Proposal to Close This RfC
2. Alternate proposal to close this RFC: we don't need a whole new layer of bureaucracy

Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip 02:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

3o note

[3]

Just a reminder

that it's generally best to DFT[4].radek (talk) 12:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Nationalisms and antisemitisms

I'm writing this here because this discussion probably isn't appropriate for the article's talk page. I do understand the irony that while Polish nationalism included antisemtism at its core while Ukrainian did not, Ukrainian nationalists killed more Jews than Polish nationalists did. The reason was historical - Ukrainian nationalists for time worked for the Germans while Polish ones did not. Let me make an analogy: if the price for Poland to be free of both Nazis and Soviets were to hand over all Polish gypsies to Romania for extermination, would that be proof that Polish nationalists were anti-gypsy if they agreed to do so? No, it would mean that they were immoral and ruthless and willing to do twerribel things for the sake of their goal but not that anti-gypsy beliefs were a core aspect of their ideology. Similarly, the OUN's participation in crimes against Jews does not prove that their movement had antisemitism at its core. It only proves that they were immoral and ruthless and willing to do terrible things for the ake of their goal. I hope that clarifies what Himka and others were trying to say when they documented Ukrainian nationalist crimes.Faustian (talk) 14:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Shoya Tomizawa

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West Germany

Still on your warpath, Loosmark? Trying to make believe the country I was born in, and still live in, does not exist anymore since 1990? Thank you for illustrating the stupidity of the name "West Germany", and of those who are fond of it. You are still stalking me, trying to provoke me, as recommend by your Polish buddies on the EEML. Better retire also the not-semi-retired half. -- Matthead  Discuß   22:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Ethnomusicology revisited

Perhaps you remember our earlier discussion [5] concerning Ethnomusicology and I was wondering if you cared to delve into this subject a little further with me. Whereas the subject is of interest to me, it may not be so to you. Please let me know if you care to discuss it. Thanks. Dr. Dan (talk) 23:14, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Your contributed article, BRM P133

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Your contributed article, BRM P138

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Your contributed article, BRM P139

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Your contributed article, BRM P126

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Avoiding speedy deletions and AfDs

Loosmark, you may wish to consider creating a personal sandbox. You can work an article up there and get it into reasonable shape in peace. When it is ready you can simply copy/paste the sandbox article into the new title. A well developed article is much less likely to get a CSD tag, and should probably escape an AfD too. Mjroots (talk) 18:42, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but once released into mainspace, other editors can rip the article to shreds too have a chance to expand and improve the article, correct any minor errors and typos etc. The better developed an article is when released the less chance of a CSD or AfD. Mjroots (talk) 18:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Stubs

I shall henceforth think of you as "Stubmonster". Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a glossary. Pyrope 01:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

F1 car articles

Hi Loosmark. I have started a discussion at WP:F1 about "stubby" F1 car articles, of which you have created several recently. I invite you to participate in the discussion. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 06:18, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

It's your decision

and its perfectly understandable but...

		The Barnstar of Integrity
		...you shouldn't leave without getting this first radek (talk) 22:12, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I hope you come back. There is a lot of uncontroversial, stress-free articles to edit. As I said earlier, your help with Polish Navy (and the abysmal Polish Merchant Marine), for example, would be much appreciated. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

NIce to see you back

Do not pay attention to the harassment of some users, and the outrageous treatment of the administrator. I see what is going on here but I'm sure one day they will pay for it. Stay cool and just have fun. Best.--Mamalala 05:57, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Tylman (4th nomination)

Hi, Loosmark. Because you participated in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 January 18#Richard Tylman, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Tylman (4th nomination). Cunard (talk) 02:13, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Loosmark. You have new messages at Varsovian's talk page.
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A New Issue

I wanted to let you know I am largely in agreement with your remarks here [6], not completely mind you, but I do believe our frequently at odds interaction does improve Wikipedia. Some of us go back a long way on these talk pages, and we do not need outside referees who haven't the foggiest idea about the history and culture of many of the subjects we are dealing with. Same goes for inside referees. Sometimes they over do it. Furthermore, I have a thick enough skin to handle a jab or two from everyone who throws one my way. Which is why I have always decried any form of censorship at this project. When someone has a POV that disagrees with my own, I have several ways to handle it. Ignore it, laugh it off, or debate it and try to change that other person's POV. But by no means try to censor it. Truthfully, Kotniski removing everyone's comments at the thread going on at the Chopin talk page really stunk. It's way too pompous that he should take upon himself the role of wise old sage or referee and thereby rescue the project from you or from me. Believe me, some of our mutual interaction and commentary is wimpy and mild, compared to the fireworks I've read elsewhere on the Wikipedia talk pages. If Kotniski is unhappy with some of the goings on at a particular thread at a talk page, he can move on to another thread or another talk page. His actions were completely unwarranted and would set a very bad precedent in our neck of the woods if they are allowed to go unchallenged. Dr. Dan (talk) 01:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Happy Loosmark's Day!

User:Loosmark has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as Loosmark's day! For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian, enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Loosmark! Peace, Rlevse 00:09, 2 May 2010 (UTC) A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:09, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

PS care to archive some of your talk page? — Rlevse • Talk • 00:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Given your post on my talk, I've set up a system for you. Let me know if you would like it modified. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:21, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Please self revert ASAP

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Talk:Anti-Polish_sentiment. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please self revert ASAP to avoid being reported. Thanks -- Varsovian (talk) 21:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Nordschliefe Lap times

Thanks for the heads up.

As a matter of interest if it were any other cicuit I'd probably agree with you. Take for instance Brands Hatch which is near me as a comparison. Both ciruits have had a similar number of grand prix, have equally long histories and so on. I have never once seen Brands Hatch used as a yardstick for car performance though, whereas that happens all the time now for the ring, thus I wouldnt consider a need for an article on Brands times. Like 0-60 and top speed the ring laptime for cars is being used as a yardstick by which performance of a car is measured and compared and for promotional purposes by the motoring media and car manufacturers. As recent examples this article from Ferrari and this article from Pistonheads gives you some idea how much weight manufacturers and media respectively give to Ring times. Bear in mind of course that those are just 2 examples from the last couple of weeks, the actual weight of references to ring times now by motoring manufacturers and motoring media is overwhelming. --LiamE (talk) 13:40, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree to a great extent about the PR. Much of it is simple PR. But the very fact they are using it as a PR means it is notable. The general rule for times is that the car is unmodified (excepting safety gear and timing equipment) and road legal. Some manufacturers such as Radical emphasize legality by driving their cars to and from the track when setting times, others such as Ferrari with the 599xx will note obtusely that the care was not road legal. Most look to add weight to their claims by having their cars and times independantly verified by independant observers such as Sport Auto or Evo. For most times it is pretty safe to ignore track conditions as no manufacturer or press will try and set a time in less than ideal conditions as a) they wont set a decent time and b) they are likely to crash trying. What prevents them doctoring their cars? Further independant testing. If a manufacturer claims to have done a 7 minute lap and no independant tester can get round in under 8 in obstensibly the same car they will get a lot of bad press. Questions about such a doctoring were raised about the Nissan GTR for example. As ever manufacters claims vary much more in their reliability than independant tests. Furthermore many tests are standardised as much as possible by testers such as Sport Auto. In all cases of course manufacturers claims are noted as such and indepnedantly verified times are noted as such. While I certainly agree that not all times are directly comparable that in no way deflects from the notability of the subject. --LiamE (talk) 14:29, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Well best of luck with an AFD then. You'll need it. --LiamE (talk) 14:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

AE filing

Hi, I've made an AE filing which mentions you in passing, here: [7] Thanks, -Chumchum7 (talk) 01:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Other AE filing

I was a little disheartened by your participation [8] here. As a result of your comments made at the AE request, I feel the need to ask you a question or two. I'd like to do so here on your talk page, but I thought I'd ask your permission first. You might be busy with other things or prefer not to bother yourself with this request. Up to you. Thanks. Dr. Dan (talk) 19:55, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

You are free to ask of course.  Dr. Loosmark  20:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I was a little busy getting my boat up north out of Chicago (couldn't decide whether to go to Door County or Mackinaw), plus the Stanley Cup took up some of my time. Blackhawks won! Then you too have been busy [9] here and here [10]. Anyway, as I mentioned I was a little disheartened by your participation [11] here. As a result of your comments made at the AE request I wanted to explain to you that I'm truly at a disadvantage at these proceedings. The main reason for that is that I find them to be childish and a waste of time. There are enough mind games played at the talk pages of some of the articles that we interact at (sometimes agreeing, sometimes disagreeing), that the last last thing I need to do is run to some forum and look for some type of succor to assuage my bruised ego. I have a thicker skin than that. I do not plan to file this type of complaint now or in the future. Which is why I'm placed in a disadvantage. I simply do not believe in the suppression of free speech, free thought, or a frank expression of ones beliefs. I do draw the line at a bona fide personal attack (especially one that is obscene), but I'll leave it to you or others to make that call and run to ArbCom when you feel that it is paramount to do so. I'd be interested in your viewpoint concerning the matter. Thanks. Dr. Dan (talk) 02:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I am not quite sure what exactly are you asking me about. My comments were a reply to another user who made some not accurate comment(s). In general I'd say that I am in favor of free speech.  Dr. Loosmark  20:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm back more or less. Not totally (I should have named my boat, "Endless Summer", and left it up north in Wisconsin), but I have some responsibilities that require occasional attention back home. What puzzles me is your uncertainty about what I'm asking you about. While it's good to know that "in general" you say you're in favor of free speech, don't you think your remark at my AE [12] is strange, particularly "I find it interesting that Skapperod, Varsovian and Deacon of Pndapetzim, all known for countless disputes with Polish editors in the past, all came here trying to get Dan off the hook..."? Yet, somehow you don't find your perennial appearances, taking sides, at such venues to be unusual, let alone "interesting". Somehow your voice is silent, and non-existent when personal attacks are made against people that you have had disagreements with. What's up with that? Dr. Dan (talk) 01:59, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Still hoping for a response. Dr. Dan (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Response to what exactly? As you can probably guess I disagree with how you described the situation. Let's just say that if somebody will ever call you "a disgraced user" be sure that my voice won't be silent and I will take your defense. Although come to think of it, your voice was always silent when personal attacks were made against myself a couple of months ago. But I am sure you wanted to make your voice heard, only that you were to busy sailing your private yacht or flying your private jet.  Dr. Loosmark  23:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

No private jet. Please calm down. Response to what? How about this [13]? While you obviously cannot control what is placed on your talk page, maybe you should ask yourself why this individual thought that you were a receptive candidate to hear his opinion about me, that I was a "f-----g troll", etc. Better still, why didn't you object or ask that person not to post such garbage on your talk page? Hmm? Regarding the personal attacks against yourself, were they posted on my talk page? Believe me, I would have objected. In fact, I would have objected very strongly. Dr. Dan (talk) 23:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

May I ask why did you write "please calm down"? I am very calm (I have just finished playing a beautiful Chopin sonata awhile ago.) Btw the diff you post above is from March, which is more than 3 months ago. To answer your question: I don't remember why. Btw, as much as I like to continue this conversation I am afraid that we can't continue because WP:FORUM kicks in. Have a nice day and happy editing.  Dr. Loosmark  00:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to pursue this, but I asked you to calm down because your snide remark concerning yachts and jets made me think you were agitated by my good fortune. If I was mistaken, my apologies, but not for my good fortune. As for my remarks that brought on the AE, well, they were judged to be uncivil, but I dare say not untrue. Was thinking about contacting Lady Catherine through a séance for a third opinion concerning their incivility. Didn't know you could play Chopin (perhaps it was on a CD), I also play Chopin, but on one of my three pianos. Hopefully it wasn't a mistake on my part and you can also play Chopin on the piano, and that you play very well. When Chopin is played poorly, it becomes very comical. Therefore I wonder if "I listened to a beautiful Chopin snota" would have been more appropriate than your stating that you "finished playing a beautiful Chopin sonata". Probably it's not the same as your recently obtaining a "doctorate", but you still never did tell me what your degree was in. As for the three month old [14] difference, it is a long time ago and that sufficiently explains why you "don't remember". Have a nice day and happy editing as well. Dr. Dan (talk) 02:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Dan thanks for correcting the above message and providing a link to the CD. I was wondering what a CD is. I am a bit surprised that an advanced pianist like you only have three pianos, I have four of them and I am far from being an advanced pianist like you are, really.  Dr. Loosmark  18:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh my God, I have just noticed that you changed the template from "advanced pianist" to "intermediate pianist". What happened!? Aren't you an advanced pianist anymore? In my opinion you are just being too humble really, I am pretty sure that you are still an advanced pianist.  Dr. Loosmark  18:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

You're right, so I've changed the template back to "advanced". I was so disappointed with my rendition of a difficult Liszt piece that I did change the template down a notch. I've since mastered the piece. Btw, congratulations on having four pianos. Now the only thing I'd still like to know is what your doctorate is in and who conferred it on you? Dr. Dan (talk) 19:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Dan, I think I have already said that I don't want to boast with my academic achievements. I don't want any favors. And besides Wikipedia is an egalitarian community where we are all equal, a guy with 5, 6 titles or a taxi driver / cleaning women, it doesn't matter. It's the value of contributions that counts. Or as our founder mr.Wales put it: the Encyclopedia that everybody can edit. Now I am really concerned that the Admins won't like this discussion because again WP:Forum. Let's go to improve the project, ok?  Dr. Loosmark  19:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

(OD) I'm not asking you to boast about your academic achievements, Loosmark. And I also agree that Wikipedia should be an egalitarian community. Which is why I get a laugh out of people who believe that they're descended from the House of Scrotum, even though they're not, or model different garbs on their user pages. If you happen to be a cleaning woman or a taxi driver doesn't matter to me. If you want to add "doctor" to your user name is also O.K. with me, even if you are are taxi driver or a cleaning woman. I was simply curious if you indeed had doctorate in something. That's all. A simple friendly question which you continually rebuff and evade. As you wish. More importantly, I think it's more telling that your memory concerning my piano skills [15] is somehow better than your memory [16] concerning obscene personal attacks [17] against me on your own user talk page and not reporting them or objecting to them. Strangely you have a lapse of memory here [18] and say "I don't remember why" and that the "diff" was "more than 3 months ago". Well, both posts (the obscene one and the piano template) were in March and only a day apart. That discrepancy, and related comments by you concern me much more than whether "the Admins" won't like this discussion because again WP:Forum (sic)". Personally I doubt that "the Admins" really give a hoot about our present interaction here. We're still not being watched by the "Dear Leader" or someone else from "Oceania", are we? Besides, if you remember, I began this thread with [19] asking your permission to delve into your participation at my AE, and related matters. I think you've explained yourself sufficiently to me and anyone else who's interested. Thank you for the many occasions when you have complemented me and expressed your solidarity with my contributions to the project. I'm also glad you're an [20] exopedian. I'm going sailing for a while. Best wishes. Dr. Dan (talk) 02:57, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Who are these people with garbs on their user pages? I have not noticed anybody with that and I am really curious how does that look like. Maybe I will get a laugh out of it too!? Please show me the user page in question. Thanks for being "O.K" with the "doctor" in my user name (it goes without saying that you having "doctor" in yours is very fine with me too). Thanks also for the in-depth analysis of the "discrepancy" in my memory from more than 3 months ago. Speaking of memory discrepancies, I have found one of my own: somewhere above you wrote, quote: "Regarding the personal attacks against yourself, were they posted on my talk page? Believe me, I would have objected. In fact, I would have objected very strongly." Seems there was a lapse in your memory because a personal attacks against myself was indeed posted on your talk page: [21] I am now searching for your objections pardon very strong objections. uh I can't find them. where did you object Dan? ah doesn't matter probably you were busy and just didn't notice.. but now I am curious who made the attack... oh my god. IT WAS YOU!  Dr. Loosmark  20:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

For helping out with this. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I, too, appreciate your help. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 20:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer

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Semi-retired

You may want to add {{Semi-retired}} to your userpage. Or, I'd hope, remove the note entirely and come back to full editing :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Wielbark

Loosmark, would you please take a look at a map and realize that Wielbark wasn't part of Warmia but of Masuria, which was already part of the Kingdom of Prussia since 1701. Thanks HerkusMonte (talk) 17:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Any map you like (or a history book). HerkusMonte (talk) 17:16, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

ugh

That was a heartbreaker though (and yes I was cheering for Ghana).radek (talk) 21:54, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

hehehe. before the World Cup i made a bet with some friends and believe it or not i put some money on Uruguay to win it. Suarez for president :P  Dr. Loosmark  22:08, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

village names

You mass reverted several (German) names of villages in the Gmina Wielbark. It is a common practise to mention these historical names (see also WP:Place). Please restore my edits, otherwise your reverts might be considered WP:vandalism. Thanks HerkusMonte (talk) 16:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

a) You removed not only the post 1938 names but all historic names.

b) In several cases names were already changed in 1900 (e.g.:Przeździęk Wielki), unlikely a Nazi action.

c) the years 1938-45 are unfortunately part of the history of this area and concealment is not the way to deal with it, do we agree on that? HerkusMonte (talk) 17:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Please check=

[22] --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 13:38, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Bialy Slon

Why did you reverted my edition to the page? What was the real reason? The page carries for whatever reasons Polish alphabet. How does such page can be readable for English-speaking people? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't know "how does such page can be readable for English-people". Probably not much less than Zürich, Mönchengladbach or Düsseldorf or any other of the millions of pages which use some non-English letters. And no offense, but given the less that perfect level of English you demonstrated above I am not quite sure you are the right person to make such observations anyway.  Dr. Loosmark  21:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of ORP Rybitwa

Hello! Your submission of ORP Rybitwa at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

RE:Swastika

I find your comment here hilariously ironic when contrasted with the Winston Churchill quote on your user page.

Also, the entirety of East Asia resents your allegation that they are uncivilized. --erachima talk 23:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I have never said that East Asia are uncivilized and neither do they use the Nazi swastika which is what I meant obviously.  Dr. Loosmark  23:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Then which countries, praytell, were you excluding from the civilized world in order to make the statement that the swastika is "banned in most civilized countries"? I invite you to educate yourself on this subject by reading Swastika#Post-WWII stigmatization in Western countries. The swastika is not illegal, particularly in educational contexts, anywhere in the world but a handful of nations. --erachima talk 23:16, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

What exactly is educational in having a stub template with the swastika pray tell? It's just way to spread the symbol all over.  Dr. Loosmark  23:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

wikt:education. The inclusion of the image imparts information to the viewer in a way plain text would not. --erachima talk 23:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Do you honestly think the goal of wikipedia is to spread Nazi iconography all over the place? Protonk (talk) 06:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Kołobrzeg

• Kołobrzeg: zarys dziejów Tadeusz Gasztold, Hieronim Kroczyński 1979
• Dzieje ziemi kołobrzeskiej do czasów jej germanizacji Kazimierz Ślaski - 1948
• Kołobrzeg - przeszłość, teraźniejszość, przyszłość / red. nauk. Edward Wiśniewski. 2005
• Kołobrzeg : wczesne miasto nad Bałtykiem pod red. Lecha Leciejewicza i Mariana Rębkowskiego 2005

Some of books available about Kołobrzeg. I agree that the article needs to be re-written. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for ORP Rybitwa

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Re:

WP:PLACE is absolutely clear: The title can be followed in the first line by a list of alternative names in parentheses: {name1, name2, name3, etc.}. I'm just following the WP guidelines. HerkusMonte (talk) 08:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Please stay WP:CIVIL, The names of 1938 are the official names in Germany, anybody born in that area between 1938 and 1945 will find that name in all of his official documents. HerkusMonte (talk) 08:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

A discussion is senseless if you don't realize the difference between these villages in Masuria and Lodz, sorry. HerkusMonte (talk) 08:58, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

1999 Motorcycle Grand Prix season

Thanks for your help on the Motorcycle Grand Prix seasons. Can you also edit the 250cc class in order to have the 500cc and 250cc tables the same? In the current format, the article appears half completed.Orsoni (talk) 11:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Assume good faith

Please, stop it: I said twice that I'm not a "fanboy" of Castello Sforzesco, don't repeat this allegation. Anyway, as a sidenote, I'm from Milan, but there are not many "Castello Sforzesco fanboys" (actually there aren't at all) because the castle is (among other things) a symbol of Spanish occupation. --Nemo 08:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Republic of Ostrów

Hello Dr. Loosmark. Do you think it's possible to expand Republic of Ostrów for WP:Did you know? It's currently 583 characters (blockquotes don't count for DYK), and it would need to be at least 1500 to qualify for DYK. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 23:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I think so. Somehow I still haven't found the time to give it a go.  Dr. Loosmark  23:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

August 2010

To enforce an arbitration decision, you have been blocked for a period of 55 hours from editing . Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read our guide to appealing arbitration enforcement blocks and follow the instructions there to appeal your block.  Sandstein  17:22, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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See here for the reason for this block.  Sandstein  17:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Loosmark (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I am blocked for 55 hours because 3 days ago I asked an admin if I can make a comment?? Seriously!?

Decline reason:

On hold, moved to WP:AE per process. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Did you read your block message? The reason it doesn't include instructions on how to use the {ublock} template is that individual administrators are not allowed to override arbitration enforcement blocks by unblocking. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Then how can I request unblock?  Dr. Loosmark  18:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Start by reading your unblock message, and then any linked pages that might contain the answer to your question. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:24, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Loosmark, apparently the idea is that we can't review this block without taking it to the noticeboard again, and the templates suggest some "paperwork" for doing that. All a bit bureaucratic if you ask me, but well... Can you outline your appeal by pasting {{Arbitration enforcement appeal}} here, and then it can be transferred to the noticeboard for further discussion. Personally, while I haven't looked much into the background, I do find this block a bit nitpicky at first sight, and might consider supporting lifting it. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't understand why was I blocked for asking Sandstein what am I allowed to do. And after 3 days at that.  Dr. Loosmark  19:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Future Perfect could you please move my request to the noticeboard for discussion? (Or anybody else if you are reading this).  Dr. Loosmark  20:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Done, with comment, and notified Sandstein. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you.  Dr. Loosmark  20:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement article ban (WP:DIGWUREN)

Because both you and Varsovian (talk · contribs) have now been blocked for violating your mutual interaction ban in connection with the article Johann Dzierzon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), it is apparent that both of you are not able to work on this article without getting in each other's way. Consequently, in application of WP:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions, you are hereby both banned from that article, i.e., you may not edit it, its talk page, or discuss this article on other pages. This ban lasts as long as your mutual interaction ban. In the event of any violations, both of you may request enforcement by an uninvolved administrator under the same terms as with respect to your interaction ban.  Sandstein  17:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Republic of Ostrów

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Somebody please copy this to AE for appeal

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Loosmark

Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found in this 2010 ArbCom motion. According to that motion, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user

Loosmark (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) –  Dr. Loosmark  20:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Sanction being appealed

[23], explanation here: [24]

Administrator imposing the sanction

Sandstein (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

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Statement by Loosmark

I am appealing the sanction because it seems harsh and well useless. I don't know if technically broke the interaction ban, however it's clear that my intention was to avoid getting into trouble - that's way I asked admin Sandstein what I am allowed to do. I think such behavior - (asking an admin when in doubt) should be encouraged rather than punished. What exactly is Sandstein trying to prevent with this block? That I ask him again what am I allowed to do?  Dr. Loosmark  20:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Statement by Sandstein

Statement by (involved editor 1)

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Loosmark

Result of the appeal by Loosmark

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

This section has been copied to WP:AE by Future Perfect at Sunrise. TNXMan 20:31, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

please copy this my AE appeal

reply to Sandstein: Sandstein claims that I was blocked 5 times is not correct, I was blocked 4 times of those 3 times by Sandstein. Let's be totally honest, if a user is repeatedly blocked by a single admin, who doesn't check if there is consensus for his actions, it usually looks a bit weird doesn't it? I claim that at least the last 2 blocks were nothing but totally unnecessary really. There was no disruption to wikipedia from my part in either of those two cases. I am sorry but Sandstein's comment bellow that he's "sick of the general waste of time" is not a good enough reason to deliver an unnecessary block. If he feels "he is wasting time" perhaps he should let another admin waste some time on it before making a block, no? Finally I completely don't understand why is he criticizing Future Perfect for copying my request here, editors should always have the possibility to appeal administrative decision for obvious reasons (controlling the controller and all that).  Dr. Loosmark  21:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I've closed the appeal. It hasn't gained any support so far from uninvolved administrators except myself, and at this point it's unlikely it would gain a consensus to overturn against Sandstein's objection, before it will become stale anyway (as the block will expire within the next day now.) Sorry about that. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:14, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Władysław Wawrzyniak

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Request unblock

{{unblock|My block should have expired by now. what's going on?}} At this moment you are not directly blocked: what message do you get when you try to edit? JohnCD (talk) 09:57, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I see this: "This account or IP address is currently blocked. The latest block log entry is provided below for reference: * 19:22, 6 August 2010 Sandstein (talk | contribs) blocked Loosmark (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 55 hours ‎ (Arbitration enforcement: Violation of ban from interacting with Varsovian)"  Dr. Loosmark  09:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I can't account for that - that's also what the block log says, and it should have expired hours ago. None of the usual notices on a blocked account appears, and there is no "unblock" button. I will leave your unblock message in the hope that someone else may have an idea, and I will also post a question at the WP:VPT. JohnCD (talk) 10:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

By the way the same thing happened the last time Sandstein blocked me as well. Clearly he is doing something he should not.  Dr. Loosmark  10:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Maybe your IP or IP range gets cross blocked via other activities. Try following instructions at Wikipedia:AUTOBLOCK. Materialscientist (talk) 10:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Other activities? Give me a break, it's Sandstein, I am ready to bet on it.  Dr. Loosmark  10:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

How about following those instructions and telling us what you see, instead of speculating - we don't know the reason and can't see what you see. Materialscientist (talk) 10:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

What instructions? The page only says request unblock which is what I did.  Dr. Loosmark  10:57, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Linked in the red area (re-linked here). Materialscientist (talk) 10:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand those instructions, I don't see any code anywhere. The only thing I know is I should have been unblocked many hours ago.  Dr. Loosmark  11:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

<indent>If you click here, do you see sections "What do I do now?" or "IP blocked?" ? Materialscientist (talk) 11:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

You now appear to be editing just fine; I've deactivated this request. Kuru (talk) 12:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah now I am editing just fine, after I was blocked many hours longer than I should have been.  Dr. Loosmark  13:00, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Must have been an autoblock. It's a weird feature of the software, and there's no way administrators can avoid it in advance. It probably happened because some time about 24hrs ago you clicked "edit" on some page. Don't ask me why the system does that. But it's certainly not something Sandstein or anybody else could have done to you on purpose. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:49, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok but then this begs two questions 1) why aren't users who are blocked informed of the this autoblock feature which for all practical purposes lengthens the block. and 2) why does this weird feature exist at all? i mean i would understand the autoblock kicks in for the duration of the block but de-facto lengthening the block without even informing a user is just lame.  Dr. Loosmark  15:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I quite agree. I have never understood what exactly that feature is supposed to do. Some aspects of it appear quite dysfunctional. I see people getting hit by these extra blocks all the time. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I really hope it will be addressed although I have no idea who is responsible for the software.  Dr. Loosmark  17:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

some fun

e4 Bc4 d3 Ne2 exd5 0-0 Nc3 Nc3 f4 Bf4 Kh1 Be5 Qh5 Be6 Bg7 Qg4 Rf8+ Qg5+radek (talk) 12:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
e5 Nf6 Be7 d5 Nd5 0-0 Nc3 c6 ef4 Qb6+ Qb2 Qb6 Be6 fe6 Qc5 Qg5 Kg7 Bg5 Dr. Loosmark  12:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Lotus 92

Hi Loosmark. I've got a few sources: Page 92 of Autocourse 83-84 says "...during the warmup lap when de Angelis' engine began to smoke ominously ... the Italian was hastily crammed into the spare Cosworth car so he could take the start from the pit lane ... De Angelis was ... excluded because, according to the Stewards, he had switched from a Renault-engined car to the Cosworth". This is supported by Mike Lang's Grand Prix! Volume 4, which says basically the same thing. Kimberley's Grand Prix Team Guide No 15 identifies de Angelis' car as chassis "92/5". The race classification page on FORIX (subscription site) says "Elio finished 13th on the road but was disqualified because he had qualified with the Renault powered Lotus 93T and raced with the 92-Ford Cosworth." Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 14:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Autocourse confirms that Mansell used the spare 93T for the race after suffering problems with his 94T during the warmup session. Also confirmed by Kimberleys and Mike Lang. DH85868993 (talk) 15:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wacław Bojarski

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Please moderate your edit summaries

Please do not describe good faith edits edits "vandalistic" as you did here [25]. Please read WP topics about what vandalism is. Thank you. M.K. (talk) 19:46, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Nemenčinė. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

From WP:LEAD: 'Alternatively, if there are more than two alternative names, these names can be moved to and explained in a "Names" or "Etymology" section; it is recommended that this be done if there are at least three alternate names, or there is something notable about the names themselves. Once such a section or paragraph is created, the alternative English or foreign names should not be moved back to the first line. As an exception, a local official name different from a widely accepted English name should be retained in the lead "(Foreign language: Local name; other names exist)".'

Brabham BT60 merger

You are invited to join a discussion at Talk:Brabham BT60Y on merging the BT60Y & BT60B articles. --Falcadore (talk) 00:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Scrapes

I.e. this. Malick78 (talk) 20:35, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

• Erm, it's at the top of this page, third item I think. Not hard to drag up :) Malick78 (talk) 20:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Driver name alignment in car articles

Hi. If you check the recent car articles you'll see that the standard format for driver names in car results tables is surname only and aligned centrally. Bearing that in mind I'm not sure what prompted you to undo the edits I made to Lotus 100T and Tyrrell 019, especially as you deigned not to leave an edit summary. Any chance you could go back and put that right, please? Pyrope 16:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

That may be your point of view, I'd disagree strongly as it conflicts with absolutely everything else in the table. In fact it is extremely disharmonious. Anyway, that is beside the point. Not being aware of something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, as I said, take a long hard look at all the car articles from the last two or three years. Pyrope 16:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

It's called precedent. That means that it doesn't have to be written in black and white. Pyrope 17:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I have, it's with you. This really is a minor point, so clogging up the WP:F1 boards seems to be taking things too seriously. On my side of the argument is that to centrally align the drivers' names keeps the formatting of the table internally consistent, avoids the jarring typographic howler of having one column skewed to one side, and follows the formatting of the vast majority of other articles. As far as I can see your argument is simply "I like it". Am I wrong? Pyrope 21:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

As far as why mine aren't just "I like it", the alignment thing is basic typography and article lay-up theory. Having one column aligned differently to the other 20-30 in the table is jarring to the eye and reduces the readability. The consistency with other like articles is the usual Wikipedia aim of keeping a common look for all articles on a similar theme. I agree that, ultimately, it doesn't matter which side the text is justified to, or whether it is centrally aligned, but it keeps things neater if they are the same. Pyrope 22:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Mostly through reviewing, editing and typesetting academic and government reports for the last decade. Most journals and editorial guides have very strict rules for the formatting of tabulated information, and the vast majority of these require consistent text justification throughout the table. Pyrope 22:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement topic ban (WP:DIGWUREN)

This message is addressed to Loosmark (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and Varsovian (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), and copied to both of your user talk pages.

I know I said that I've tired of AE, but since you both had the bright idea to come to my talk page and continue your mutual aggressive drama there, I'll make an exception for you. As an administrator who has been taking part in trying to moderate the disruptive environment surrounding Eastern European topics for what must be years now, I've seen both of you take part in nationalist dramafests time and again, notably at London Victory Celebrations of 1946. Both of you have, by your persistent POV-pushing pursuit of your silly causes and your animosity towards each other, contributed measurably to the disruption of the disruption of Wikipedia's editing environment. Now, as soon as your mutual interaction ban has ended, you are back to reverting each other at Jaroslaw Bilaniuk and Jakiw Palij, and having at each other at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland.

This will stop now. Since the interaction ban clearly did not make you reconsider your approach to editing, you need a longer opportunity to distance yourself from the topic and from each other. It may well be that one of you is more to blame than the other for this development, but because your disruption appears to be mutually reinforcing because of your conflict, the distribution of individual blame is not of great importance to me. In application of WP:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions, you are both hereby topic-banned (as defined at WP:TBAN) from the topic of Eastern Europe, broadly construed, for the duration of six months. For the sake of clarity, this topic ban also prohibits you from making enforcement requests against each other. Please do not make any appeals on my talk page or via e-mail; use WP:AE instead.  Sandstein  22:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

There is absolutely no justification for placing a topic ban on Loosmark for this. While there's a problem in the interactions between Varsovian and Loosmark, the amount of edits that Loosmark has made in response to Varsovian comprise a very small amount of his overall edits, most of which are uncontroversial. This isn't true for the other party, Varsovian, all of whose edits have involved conflict with someone or another. This is way overstepping the bounds of discretionary sanctions, where in this case these were seeming placed just because a particular administrator (Sandstein) was "annoyed" by users posting to his talk page - after this administrator has voluntarily chosen to make himself an arbiter of Eastern European disputes over at AE (can we have the level headed and knowledgeable User:Moreschi back please?). If you don't want people posting to your talk page about Eastern European disputes then simply disengage from them. Otherwise accept the responsibility for opening the Pandora's box.radek (talk) 04:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)