User talk:Scryer 360

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Anti-Americanism

First, a welcome message as you haven't received one. Also, I replied briefly on Anti-Americanism. I didn't mean to offend at all. Marskell 12:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to OpenGL and DirectX

Please don't troll, as you did on the OpenGL and DirectX discussion pages. If you have a question that is about the article, you are welcome to ask it on the relevant discussion ('talk') page. That is what those pages are for. Please don't write long, rambling essays full of insults and incorrect assumptions. That's trolling and usually results in flame wars instead of useful discussion. --Imroy 05:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I have been a little disappointed seeing your note dismissed as trolling (I hardly believe a troll would write so long things) but I agree Wiki is not the place for this.
Anyway, you're right... this linux thing is a real shame... as an author of OpenBSD once said, "it's a bunch of things which, put togheter, happen to run". Some said that linux is the worst thing that could happen to OpenSource since it shifted away many effort from other good projects.
Consider this some kind of way to accept the fact your comment has been removed...
MaxDZ8 talk 09:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Now that is a troll. --Imroy 11:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Your comments on RFK talk

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, we remind you not to attack other editors, as you did here: Talk: Robert F. Kennedy. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tvoz |talk 19:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, well I didn't write the template, and was trying to be neutral. I would have preferred one that just said "Cool it", as I wasn't really looking to provide a "welcome" - but they all seem to say that until they get nasty. So I went with nice. Look, I don't disagree with you completely - as you'll see, I also think the RFK piece needs a lot of work, but unlike you I'm trying to not fall into the assumption that there are people with motives lurking behind every corner. And I don't subscribe to any generalizations and assumptions about any given zip code. Yes, I live in New York. No, I'm not in a cabal or on any newspaper or politician's staff, despite having been accused of that several times in rapid succession of late. The truth is, usually people who work on a particular article do it because they either know something about the subject, or they have a passion for it, or they just like it - or somethimes because they hate it and want to make sure it isn't a whitewash. That's all fine - you don't have to accuse people in the attack mode you used. That's all I'm saying. Tvoz |talk 20:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Whoa - I am not an editor of that page, I have made only a few very minor edits to it ever, and that was months ago. So actually I wasn't taking it personally until now when you just made it personal. You said: "Are there really people who feel so politically inadequate that they have to fill this page with propaganda and promotional garbage?" - and "WE DO NOT RIGHT THIS FOR SUBJECTIVE OR PERSONAL REASONS" and "Not someones political truth or any other self-righteous thinkings". Those are attacks on other editors. I didn't say you attacked any one individual. And by referring to the page as "promotional", "subjective" and for "personal reasons" you do indeed suggest that the people writing it are doing it to promote a point of view or political perspective - as a motive. As for posting a template on your page - editors post them all them time about vandalism and the like, without having some kind of group discussion, to save time and have neutrally worded reminders. This was not a request for administrative intervention, it was merely a reminder that comments like yours on that page were not constructive criticism. So you don't need to get all incensed about it. As for watching my contributions and discussing them with your friends - I'm flattered. I hope you enjoy them. You still need to lighten up - I wasn't attacking you, I was asking you to be a little nicer in your critique, rather than in effect screaming and insulting people who may be kids, or may just not be talented writers. Ever think of that? Relax, friend. Tvoz |talk 20:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm laughing as I'm reading what you just posted, because there are a number of editors here who would choke at the thought that I'm a "light" editor in the way you mean - I've gotten into my share of escalating arguments when some asshole has refused to take a point or was just plain wrong, or stupid - so believe me, I understand what you're saying. And I care about the truth as much. The only thing I'd say is that sometimes standing on the outside and yelling at people to clean up their act doesn't have the desired effect. Sometimes you have to actually go in and make some changes (like you did with the "Kennedy loyalty" line), but sometimes it works better to make your point without the anger. People don't ikmprove their performance because they're intimidated - they do so (if they have the ability to) because they're encouraged, positively motivated, even complimented for something theydid right, while being told about all the stuff they did wrong. Simple human motivation skills learned from years of being a parent. I have no idea who you are, or what your demographics are, but I do know that many WIkipedia contributors are kids, and have a lot to learn. The RFK page may be overly positive, but it's not hopeless - there is a lot of good stuff there - so I think encouraging them to improve it will work alot better than SCREAMING AT THEM that this is a fucking encyclopedia and all the rest. yes, it is, and it should be much better all over the place, but cut some slack. Don't lose your passion, but try not wielding it like a sword. Think about it. And when you get really incensed, take a break from what you;re working on and find something uncontroversial to edit, like Central Park. Tvoz |talk 21:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that is the subtext of all of my comments to you: there are other concerns in life than Wikipedia, so take it easy. (And there's no such thing as a finished article here - which is great.) Tvoz |talk 21:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Corvette page

Howdy Scryer 360, Thank you for doing a major scrub to the Corvette article. It is greatly appreciated and I agree with the vast majority of your edits. Having said that, as Tvoz mentions above, could you please lighten up your tone with regards to discussion page comments? Cussing, as you did here, or calling follow editors stupid, as you did here here is not the way to gain consensus and is actually against wikipedia policy and could end up getting you kicked off wikipedia. I'd hate to see that happen since you're obviously a good editor, so could you please re-read Be polite, WP:Assume_good_faith, and WP:No_personal_attacks? Thanks again for the major haircut on the Chevrolet Corvette! —Mrand ^T-C 12:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Fuel Economy

The discussion about fuel economy is being reopened on Infobox Automobile. You had an opinion once, are you still of the same mind? Skyemoor (talk) 01:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_Automobile#no_obvious_reason_why_fuel_economy_is_not_included_in_the_infobox