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:Regarding the sources, my initial consideration was to remove them. However, given that the act of an editor removing a source often leads to immediate accusations of vandalism, So I left it there. [[User:StarkReport|StarkReport]] ([[User talk:StarkReport#top|talk]]) 12:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
:Regarding the sources, my initial consideration was to remove them. However, given that the act of an editor removing a source often leads to immediate accusations of vandalism, So I left it there. [[User:StarkReport|StarkReport]] ([[User talk:StarkReport#top|talk]]) 12:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
::Creating stray citations destroys verifiability. Wikipedia has many articles that were once verifiable, but now have unsupported text next to stray citations, so the statements look as though they are supported. Cleaning up such articles is time-consuming and expensive if you have to buy books to check the citations.<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 12:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
::Creating stray citations destroys verifiability. Wikipedia has many articles that were once verifiable, but now have unsupported text next to stray citations, so the statements look as though they are supported. Cleaning up such articles is time-consuming and expensive if you have to buy books to check the citations.<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 12:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Alright, I have removed it now. [[User:StarkReport|StarkReport]] ([[User talk:StarkReport#top|talk]]) 12:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
[[File:Smiley.svg|25px]] Articles do not need lots of identical wikilinks. If there is benefit in having a wikilink to [[:Abu Bakr]] in an article, it is enough to have (a) one in the text of the article, (b) one in the infobox (if Abu Bakr is mentioned in the infobox), and (c) to wikilink in tables that present lists (for example lists of caliphs, or lists of ships).<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 12:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
[[File:Smiley.svg|25px]] Articles do not need lots of identical wikilinks. If there is benefit in having a wikilink to [[:Abu Bakr]] in an article, it is enough to have (a) one in the text of the article, (b) one in the infobox (if Abu Bakr is mentioned in the infobox), and (c) to wikilink in tables that present lists (for example lists of caliphs, or lists of ships).<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">--[[User:Toddy1| Toddy1]] [[User talk:Toddy1|(talk)]]</span> 12:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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Unclear reference

Dear StarkReport, here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Batiar&diff=prev&oldid=1143805891 you added the reference "Kateryna Dysa, Cityscapes of Violence in Contemporary Ukrainian Culture, (University of Toronto Press, 2019)" which I cannot verify. Please add more information like ISBN or weblinks. Thank you in advance. -- Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 08:09, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Language

Dear StarkReport, The 2nd paragraph of the section Ownership of slaves in the article Criticism of Muhammad now reads: "According to Forough Jahanbaksh, Muhammad, never preached the abolition of slavery as a doctrine although, he did moderated the age-old institution of slavery, which was also accepted and endorsed by the other monotheistic religions, Christianity and Judaism, and was a well-established custom of the pre-Islamic world. According to Murray Gordon, Muhammad saw it "as part of the natural order of things". While did improved the condition of slaves, and exhorted his followers to treat kindness and compassion, and encouraged freeing of slaves, he still did not completely abolish the practice." Something has gone wrong here, I think. "did moderated", "While did improved", "treat kindness" etc.? Could you help out? Vysotsky (talk) 14:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Vysotsky. I content which is sourced from [1] is just showing the critics presenting a critical perspective on Muhammad's stance towards slavery. While acknowledging that Muhammad made efforts to moderate the institution and improve the condition of slaves, critics argue that he did not completely abolish the practice, and perceived slavery as an inherent aspect of the prevailing societal structure.
So the statements such as "did moderated," "While did improved," and "treat kindness" represent specific areas where critics provide due credit while presenting their overall reproving perspective. StarkReport (talk) 06:07, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Slavery in Islam".

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Please do not edit war

You are edit warring on Aisha. Normal procedure is wp:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Please self-revert this and await the input of other editors on the talk page until a wp:consensus becomes clear. Thanks, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ) 14:26, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Competence

I do not know whether you have ever read Wikipedia:No original research. The basic idea is that information must be supported by reliable sources. In this edit you deleted some text but left the citation supporting it. This was inept. Do you see why?-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:22, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1, I'm well aware of WP:OR policy, even though I may not be thoroughly skilled in its every aspect.
Regarding the sources, my initial consideration was to remove them. However, given that the act of an editor removing a source often leads to immediate accusations of vandalism, So I left it there. StarkReport (talk) 12:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Creating stray citations destroys verifiability. Wikipedia has many articles that were once verifiable, but now have unsupported text next to stray citations, so the statements look as though they are supported. Cleaning up such articles is time-consuming and expensive if you have to buy books to check the citations.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I have removed it now. StarkReport (talk) 12:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles do not need lots of identical wikilinks. If there is benefit in having a wikilink to Abu Bakr in an article, it is enough to have (a) one in the text of the article, (b) one in the infobox (if Abu Bakr is mentioned in the infobox), and (c) to wikilink in tables that present lists (for example lists of caliphs, or lists of ships).-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]