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== '''Pibroch''' ==<br />
== '''Pibroch''' ==<br />
Before my editing, the article said "there is some disagreement surrounding the terminology." I think people agree that the totality of traditional Scottish Highland music is divided between ceòl mór ("big music") and ceòl beag ("little music"), and that within this universe, bagpipe music straddles both types. Where the disagreement comes is that pipers use the terms pìobaireachd and the simplified "pibroch" to mean ceòl mór strictly played on the bagpipe; but others have wanted to use the term for similar music on their instruments. The pipers would strictly be correct simply because of the Gaelic root pìob meaning "pipe." There would be less confusion if other instrumentalists would always use terms specific to their instruments. Sometimes they do: "fiddle ceòl mór," "harp ceòl mór." However, they don't always (probably because the other terms are not as widely recognized). Wikipedia is supposed to be descriptive, not normative. Therefore, we are stuck with saying "pibroch" encompasses all ceòl mór. It is worth pointing out, as I have done, that this broadening of meaning represents English practice.[[User:Stickler4accuracy2|Stickler4accuracy2]] ([[User talk:Stickler4accuracy2#top|talk]]) 00:02, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
Before my editing, the article said "there is some disagreement surrounding the terminology." I think people agree that the totality of traditional Scottish Highland music is divided between ceòl mór ("big music") and ceòl beag ("little music"), and that within this universe, bagpipe music straddles both types. Where the disagreement comes is that pipers use the terms pìobaireachd and the simplified "pibroch" to mean ceòl mór strictly played on the bagpipe; but others have wanted to use the term for similar music on their instruments. The pipers would strictly be correct simply because of the Gaelic root pìob meaning "pipe." There would be less confusion if other instrumentalists would always use terms specific to their instruments. Sometimes they do: "fiddle ceòl mór," "harp ceòl mór." However, they don't always (probably because the other terms are not as widely recognized). Wikipedia is supposed to be descriptive, not normative. Therefore, we are stuck with saying "pibroch" encompasses all ceòl mór. It is worth pointing out, as I have done, that this broadening of meaning represents English practice.[[User:Stickler4accuracy2|Stickler4accuracy2]] ([[User talk:Stickler4accuracy2#top|talk]]) 00:02, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
I should say that "this broadening of meaning of the word ''pibroch'' represents ''recent'' English practice." I don't have access to the OED, but the [http://www.dsl.ac.uk/getent4.php?plen=3596&startset=29384942&query=PIBROCH&fhit=pibroch&dregion=form&dtext=snd#fhit Dictionary of the Scots Language] reference kindly provided by Prof Wrong clearly defines ''pibroch'' to be pipe music. The last representative usage of the word in that source is 1961.[[User:Stickler4accuracy2|Stickler4accuracy2]] ([[User talk:Stickler4accuracy2#top|talk]]) 08:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
I should say that "this broadening of meaning of the word ''pibroch'' represents ''recent'' English practice." I don't have access to the OED, but the [http://www.dsl.ac.uk/getent4.php?plen=3596&startset=29384942&query=PIBROCH&fhit=pibroch&dregion=form&dtext=snd#fhit Dictionary of the Scots Language] reference kindly provided by Prof Wrong clearly defines ''pibroch'' to be pipe music. The last representative usage of the word in that source is 1963.[[User:Stickler4accuracy2|Stickler4accuracy2]] ([[User talk:Stickler4accuracy2#top|talk]]) 08:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

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== Pibroch ==
Before my editing, the article said "there is some disagreement surrounding the terminology." I think people agree that the totality of traditional Scottish Highland music is divided between ceòl mór ("big music") and ceòl beag ("little music"), and that within this universe, bagpipe music straddles both types. Where the disagreement comes is that pipers use the terms pìobaireachd and the simplified "pibroch" to mean ceòl mór strictly played on the bagpipe; but others have wanted to use the term for similar music on their instruments. The pipers would strictly be correct simply because of the Gaelic root pìob meaning "pipe." There would be less confusion if other instrumentalists would always use terms specific to their instruments. Sometimes they do: "fiddle ceòl mór," "harp ceòl mór." However, they don't always (probably because the other terms are not as widely recognized). Wikipedia is supposed to be descriptive, not normative. Therefore, we are stuck with saying "pibroch" encompasses all ceòl mór. It is worth pointing out, as I have done, that this broadening of meaning represents English practice.Stickler4accuracy2 (talk) 00:02, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I should say that "this broadening of meaning of the word pibroch represents recent English practice." I don't have access to the OED, but the Dictionary of the Scots Language reference kindly provided by Prof Wrong clearly defines pibroch to be pipe music. The last representative usage of the word in that source is 1963.Stickler4accuracy2 (talk) 08:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]