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:Also, please don't accuse other of vandalism, if you disagree with their edits. [[WP:DR|Content disputes]] are not the same as [[WP:V|vandalism]]. If you keep accusing others, and violating policies such as [[WP:NPA]]/[[WP:AGF]] you may find yourself subject to restriction under [[WP:DIGWUREN|this sanction]]. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 19:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC) |
:Also, please don't accuse other of vandalism, if you disagree with their edits. [[WP:DR|Content disputes]] are not the same as [[WP:V|vandalism]]. If you keep accusing others, and violating policies such as [[WP:NPA]]/[[WP:AGF]] you may find yourself subject to restriction under [[WP:DIGWUREN|this sanction]]. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 19:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC) |
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Please read [[WP:V]] and [[WP:CIV]]. You need to utilize verifiable, reliable sources, and edit in a manner that resembles you real life working environment, regardless how much you are annoyed by anyone. Your revert at [[Expulsion of Germans]] removed tons of sources, don' do that. You discuss the ''motives'' of other editors, not their sources, don't do that. Both behaviours are not policy-conform, and such behaviour will get you blocked. That other editors also behave that way is no excuse, in fact many of the editors practicing this kind of editing are in trouble already, and even if they are not, [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS|it won't help you]] when your block is discussed. Please self-revert your revert at [[Expulsion of Germans]], and if you have sources that these expulsions are "commonly called The Expulsion", add these sources. If not, leave it out. [[User:Skäpperöd|Skäpperöd]] ([[User talk:Skäpperöd|talk]]) 05:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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before the question. Again, welcome! --Vlad|-> 13:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Chancellor of Germany
Your solo action was not appreciated. Please see the talk page. --KarlFrei (talk) 16:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- And, whatever the outcome of the talk page discussion may be, please never try to move a page to a different title by cutting and pasting, use the move button instead (but only after an appropriate consensus has been reached). --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- That wasn't possible. There is no consensus to move the page, so it should stay at the title where it has stayed the last 6,5 years (the stable title). UweBayern (talk) 17:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- Not necessarily, the move you instigated caused disruption as has been your subsequent actions. Might I suggest you take a step back and reconsider the situation and go back in with a fresh approach? Your triple revert of multiple editors and discussion tone may push some to the limit of WP:AGF. Gavin (talk) 00:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- On the contrary, it was the move undertaken by you/Abe which caused disruption, as just demonstrated at the Chancellor of Germany page. The article history is now located at the wrong place, and the article Chancellor of Germany (German Reich), the content of which is from the Chancellor of Germany article, has no article history, which constitute a GFDL violation. UweBayern (talk) 00:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, examine the history- I did not take part in the move. Fact is you are causing disruption not by suggesting a merger but by being aggressive towards other editors. Also, you seem to keep making Legal threats? Gavin (talk) 00:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- On the contrary, it was the move undertaken by you/Abe which caused disruption, as just demonstrated at the Chancellor of Germany page. The article history is now located at the wrong place, and the article Chancellor of Germany (German Reich), the content of which is from the Chancellor of Germany article, has no article history, which constitute a GFDL violation. UweBayern (talk) 00:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Not necessarily, the move you instigated caused disruption as has been your subsequent actions. Might I suggest you take a step back and reconsider the situation and go back in with a fresh approach? Your triple revert of multiple editors and discussion tone may push some to the limit of WP:AGF. Gavin (talk) 00:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- That wasn't possible. There is no consensus to move the page, so it should stay at the title where it has stayed the last 6,5 years (the stable title). UweBayern (talk) 17:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- You untrue accusations are unacceptable. It's completely legitimate to point out that Wikipedia's own policies are to be followed. If someone are making "Legal threats", it must be you. UweBayern (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Must be? There is a difference between observing policy and gaming the rules. Again I suggest you step back and reconsider your approach. Though i recognise you are trying to help the project, you might find you have better results if you try a new approach. Gavin (talk) 00:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- You untrue accusations are unacceptable. It's completely legitimate to point out that Wikipedia's own policies are to be followed. If someone are making "Legal threats", it must be you. UweBayern (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
List of Ministers-President of Bavaria
I think, there is quite a few issues with your edit at the above article. First of all, a fair bit of data was lost by replacing the old table with your new one, copied accross from the German wikipedia, and secondly, it left a couple of names red linked even so there are articles about those people, these being Johannes Hoffmann and Heinrich Held. You need to check your work after you have done it, I think. Thirdly, its common practise on the English wikipedia to leave an edit summary. I don't edit much on the German version so I don't know what is custom there, you may be used to a different set of rules. EA210269 (talk) 03:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- I fixed the red links for you. EA210269 (talk) 03:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
you are being disruptive by giving undue weight to a minor aspect of a biography of a living person which violates both WP:BLP and WP:SOAPBOX. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 08:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, you are the one being disruptive. UweBayern (talk) 08:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Chris Brown (entertainer). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. — Σxplicit 22:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Uwe.
Can you discuss any further to this article on its talk page first? It seems as if there are differing opinions on the best way to present the abuse case, and from a glance editors previously came to some agreement on the talk page there, and aren't agreeing with your edits. I believe that if you want to make changes, the most promising way would be to present your arguments on the talk page so that it can be discussed.
Thank you, Amalthea 00:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
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What are you talking about? Loosmark (talk) 14:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Your removal of a category and other relevant additions to the expulsion article. UweBayern (talk) 14:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well if you have a problem with my edits i think it would be much more constructive to explain your disagreement clearly rather than writting criptic messages on my talk page. Loosmark (talk) 15:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, you've been mentioned on a thread at WP:AN/I. You might want to look at it, though my advice is to let it go away. My personal advice, taking off and putting aside my admin hat, is to avoid comparisons to the Holocaust, they generally do not lead to productive debate. JMO. Good luck, I've read After the Reich and am probably more aware than the average person that this is not a trivial tragedy.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Loosmark is a Polish nationalist POV pusher who is only engaged in disruptive editing, and frankly, I couldn't care less about his opinion of me. UweBayern (talk) 15:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Just be careful. Whatever you think of Loosmark, it is wise to look good when the admins knock on the door.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:06, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Edit warring
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Federation of Expellees. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing.
User:Piotrus has already attempted to start a discussion at the article's talk page; you would be wise to continue discussion there rather than to keep on reverting the article. Once a disagreement like this has arisen, it is not appropriate for editors to keep undoing one another's edits—even if you are thoroughly convinced that your version is right, you must seek consensus from other involved editors. If you continue edit warring, you will be blocked. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Also, please don't accuse other of vandalism, if you disagree with their edits. Content disputes are not the same as vandalism. If you keep accusing others, and violating policies such as WP:NPA/WP:AGF you may find yourself subject to restriction under this sanction. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Use sources, don't remove sourced material, be civil
Please read WP:V and WP:CIV. You need to utilize verifiable, reliable sources, and edit in a manner that resembles you real life working environment, regardless how much you are annoyed by anyone. Your revert at Expulsion of Germans removed tons of sources, don' do that. You discuss the motives of other editors, not their sources, don't do that. Both behaviours are not policy-conform, and such behaviour will get you blocked. That other editors also behave that way is no excuse, in fact many of the editors practicing this kind of editing are in trouble already, and even if they are not, it won't help you when your block is discussed. Please self-revert your revert at Expulsion of Germans, and if you have sources that these expulsions are "commonly called The Expulsion", add these sources. If not, leave it out. Skäpperöd (talk) 05:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)