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** To be honest, I can't even see any real noise in the first picture. I think that's just the texture of the animal. [[User:Cowtowner|Cowtowner]] ([[User talk:Cowtowner|talk]]) 15:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
** To be honest, I can't even see any real noise in the first picture. I think that's just the texture of the animal. [[User:Cowtowner|Cowtowner]] ([[User talk:Cowtowner|talk]]) 15:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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***The actual undenoised original is [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/f/f7/20100821090634%21Ngorongoro_Grant-Gazelle.jpg here]. There's no texture that I know of that produces bright white specks on black background without any blurring on the edges - clearly digital noise, and of a slightly strange kind. The same problem came up in the previous gazelle nom by the same uploader. [[User:Papa Lima Whiskey|<font color="#cc2200">Papa Lima Whiskey</font>]] ([[User talk:Papa Lima Whiskey|talk]]) 00:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC) |
***The actual undenoised original is [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/f/f7/20100821090634%21Ngorongoro_Grant-Gazelle.jpg here]. There's no texture that I know of that produces bright white specks on black background without any blurring on the edges - clearly digital noise, and of a slightly strange kind. The same problem came up in the previous gazelle nom by the same uploader. [[User:Papa Lima Whiskey|<font color="#cc2200">Papa Lima Whiskey</font>]] ([[User talk:Papa Lima Whiskey|talk]]) 00:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:: There is no undenoised version. I denoise almost all my pictures with NeatImage and a color chart based profile for my camera. A chart got used to build a input colour profile in order to produce best colour reproduction. I sharpen my images with Photokit Sharpener and I manually mask the sharpening layers to avoid sharpening where it's not serving anything. My images are optimized for best sharpness when viewed from ~1.5 times its diagonal. This has the "downside" of showing the structure PLW found in this image when viewed on his ~150ppi screen at 100%. PLW has proven with his ultra denoised version that you can't have both sharpness at normal viewing distance and large zooms. I could just overwrite the image with a downsampled version and you wouldn't see those speckles anymore. Actually that is what I did with the [[:File:Lake_Manyara_Bartvogel.jpg|other image]] and PLW promptly supported. --[[User:Ikiwaner|Ikiwaner]] ([[User talk:Ikiwaner|talk]]) 17:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC) |
:: There is no undenoised version. I denoise almost all my pictures with NeatImage and a color chart based profile for my camera. A chart got used to build a input colour profile in order to produce best colour reproduction. I sharpen my images with Photokit Sharpener and I manually mask the sharpening layers to avoid sharpening where it's not serving anything. My images are optimized for best sharpness when viewed from ~1.5 times its diagonal. This has the "downside" of showing the structure PLW found in this image when viewed on his ~150ppi screen at 100%. PLW has proven with his ultra denoised version that you can't have both sharpness at normal viewing distance and smoothness in large zooms. I could just overwrite the image with a downsampled version and you wouldn't see those speckles anymore. Actually that is what I did with the [[:File:Lake_Manyara_Bartvogel.jpg|other image]] and PLW promptly supported. --[[User:Ikiwaner|Ikiwaner]] ([[User talk:Ikiwaner|talk]]) 17:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 17:54, 22 September 2010
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 26 Sep 2010 at 16:31:32 (UTC)
- Reason
- Illustrative, high res
- Articles in which this image appears
- Grant's Gazelle
- FP category for this image
- Mammals
- Creator
- Ikiwaner
- Support as nominator --Ikiwaner (talk) 16:31, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Question What did you use for denoising? Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 16:40, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support - very crisp image, illustrates the subject well. Tim Pierce (talk) 21:03, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support - beautiful image with a high educational value. Clementina talk 05:31, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- In the edit the horns now look like injection molded plastic. Plenty of details got lost: Compare the tail, the eyes the mouth and the cheek of the edit with the original. --Ikiwaner (talk) 12:33, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree. Tim Pierce (talk) 13:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support Strongly prefer the original. Cowtowner (talk) 12:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Question went unanswered and noise issues seem beyond repair. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 01:36, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- To be honest, I can't even see any real noise in the first picture. I think that's just the texture of the animal. Cowtowner (talk) 15:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- The actual undenoised original is here. There's no texture that I know of that produces bright white specks on black background without any blurring on the edges - clearly digital noise, and of a slightly strange kind. The same problem came up in the previous gazelle nom by the same uploader. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- To be honest, I can't even see any real noise in the first picture. I think that's just the texture of the animal. Cowtowner (talk) 15:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- There is no undenoised version. I denoise almost all my pictures with NeatImage and a color chart based profile for my camera. A chart got used to build a input colour profile in order to produce best colour reproduction. I sharpen my images with Photokit Sharpener and I manually mask the sharpening layers to avoid sharpening where it's not serving anything. My images are optimized for best sharpness when viewed from ~1.5 times its diagonal. This has the "downside" of showing the structure PLW found in this image when viewed on his ~150ppi screen at 100%. PLW has proven with his ultra denoised version that you can't have both sharpness at normal viewing distance and smoothness in large zooms. I could just overwrite the image with a downsampled version and you wouldn't see those speckles anymore. Actually that is what I did with the other image and PLW promptly supported. --Ikiwaner (talk) 17:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)