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Anglo Pyramidologist

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02 September 2024

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Suspected sockpuppets

• Emil Kirkegaard HBD (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Under my unblock request for a ban I am now fully exonorated of, Emil Kirkegaard HBD chimed in, who is clearly impersonating Deleet,[1] when commenting:[2]

NightHeron is a shared account, he is responsible for reporting your account and getting you blocked as a sock. Speak to Captain Occam, he has the details. Please contact me on discord. The admins responding here are the same people who wrote my RationalWiki article [3]

I soon figured out that this couldn't be real because I found no active Discord at all,[4] contacted Kirkegaard via his personal website, and did the same per Captain Occam; and, again, nobody knew what this was about. Anglo Pyramidologist has been a very active contributor to RationalWiki over the years, and has had a long-standing vendetta with Kirkegaard. I think he is impersonating him now as to both make me and Kirkegaard look like we're somehow one big tag team with the same ideological motivations.

One of his his four highly stereotypical edits is one whose edit summary reads: I am the domain owner of... on the Mankind Quarterly article.[5] AP has been uniquely interested in this affair, and Deleet himself really has nothing to gain by including this information.

This is a WP:DUCK. Please carefully check for sleeper accounts as AP has been known for creating dozens of them in one go. Biohistorian15 (talk) 07:03, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Hatting no longer productive discussion as agreed to on PG's talk page. Note that parts of it still concern the now removed IP editor 51.6.193.169 as another possible sock puppet here
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
The impersonation account is likely to be the infamous Mikemikev who is well known in the alt-right manosphere for spoofing people's names, that behaviour doesn't match AP's editing history. After I filed the SPI he sent me a bunch of weird emails. I filed an SPI regarding that account to Mikemikev on August 9. The blocking admin put it down to "either blatant sock puppetry or Joe-jobbing" [6]. It was obviously a WP:NOTHERE account. This user Mikemikev has a history of impersonating Kirkegaard, for example [7], which was blocked in 2017. The IP data is likely stale so it probably wouldn't help. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC) Just one problem: why would this far-right activist send me in the direction of a Discord that doesn't really exist etc., wasting my time. I think it is more likely that the post was solely about having my unblock associated with these extreme individuals as to make it less likely to be accepted such as grave dancing on Deleet. Biohistorian15 (talk) 10:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC) I don't know anything about that. AP has reached out to me, he says the accounts are not him and from what I have seen that is believable in this case. No evidence has been presented that the impersonation account is AP. Over the years I have filed a lot of SPI's, this one is devoid of evidence. You might want to check an SPI I filed back in 2021 - Mikemikev was creating other impersonation accounts of Deleet. Including one called Emil O. W. Kirkegaard. There are many other examples of this on his SPI archive, for example Emil Kirkegaard Deleet. Mikemikev has also impersonated Richard Lynn and others. This low-level type of impersonation of far-right figures doesn't match AP's history. From what I have been told AP is disabled, not from Brighton and is involved in litigation with Deleet as he owes AP $1000s in legal costs. Deleet has since changed his name, moved country several times and opened and closed various bank accounts to avoid paying AP's costs. This isn't something I want to get involved with but I have been able to verify two of those claims. I find it unlikely AP would create an immature impersonation account when he is involved in legal proceedings against this individual. Deleet told you to file this SPI because he is involved in a feud with AP, it's a poor excuse to file an SPI. The IP below is a friend of Deleet and was the first to link to that individual on your talk-page. I believe a third-party is trying to stir trouble for AP and Deleet and judging from the immature impersonation attempt I believe it is more likely to be Mikemikev's behaviour. Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC) Kirkegaard didn't care to engage with me at all. He only really stated that he has nothing to do with this. While the point about Mikemikev potentially trying to stir trouble for AP and Deleet may be accurate, I still see no reason why a neonazi would make these edits; no clear rationale. A CU investigation is perfectly justified. Biohistorian15 (talk) 16:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC) From what I have been told (some of which I have managed to verify myself) - Kirkegaard was involved with the users who filed the previous SPI AP filings. Gardenofaleph (blocked) has co-written papers with Kirkegaard, Pudeo a user from Wikipediocracy who knows Kirkegaard, Godotskimp (blocked) a far-right user involved with Kirkegaard. Yourself a self-confessed right wing user who has email contact with Kirkegaard and the IP below who has admitted to being in contact with Kirkegaard and linked to content from his private Facebook [8]. I am not defending AP, but seriously it looks like Kirkegaard is the man behind the scenes asking other right-wing users to file SPI's against AP. None of the above users had any contact with AP but turned up on Wikipedia to file SPI. If an SPI is to be filed it should be based on evidence, not vendetta. I do not see any good-faith here. It looks like a political war from the far-right who are filing against AP because he is apparently far-left. Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC) There are multiple attack pages online that detail the escapades of the person behind Anglo Pyramidologist. Kirkegaard, however, did not care very much about all this in his reply. I would be careful making these accusations. Biohistorian15 (talk) 17:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC) Psychologist Guy, what is your connection to Anglo Pyramidologist? Why is he (a banned user) sending you private information about his litigation, as you say he is doing? This is very unusual behavior. 2A02:FE1:7191:F500:1D68:AEEA:EBA5:D751 (talk) 17:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC) Admittedly, PG has his email available on his user page. I trust if he had reached out using an account, he would tell us about it. Biohistorian15 (talk) 17:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC) It seems to have happened before. In this comment Psychologist Guy mentioned he was posting "what I have just been emailed", and at that time Anglo Pyramidologist was heavily involved in an off-wiki dispute with the subject of that other SPI, so AP was likely the source of PG's emails that time also. I don't know what to think. Psychologist Guy's overall edits do not seem sock-like at all, but there is something unusual about his willingness to post whatever he says that a banned user is telling him. Hopefully checkuser will be able to shed light on what's going on. 2A02:FE1:7191:F500:1D68:AEEA:EBA5:D751 (talk) 17:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC) Yes, checkuser should be conducted above. I very much agree. But PG is hardly anyone's sock puppet. Biohistorian15 (talk) 17:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC) My email address is public, I receive dozens of emails every week from all sorts. I received 1 email today from AP with some backstory of how he is being targeted by those on the far-right which Kirkegaard instigated and these accounts are not him. I believe the story checks out here. I have filed a lot of detailed SPI's over the years supported by good evidence. I am not convinced this SPI is being done in good-faith. Both of you are new here but have much knowledge of AP going back years. Kirkegaard is emailing you to come here and do this. It's not in the spirit of how this website should operate. Years ago a user filed a bogus SPI against me because he didn't agree with vegetarianism. SPI's filed out of grudges or personal feuds should be called out. If there was good behavioural evidence AP created those accounts I would be the first to support it but this is one of the weakest SPI's I have seen. There is some obvious meat-puppetry going on here. Psychologist Guy (talk) 18:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC) Kirkegaard did not answer any of the questions regarding AP I personally asked him in that original email and my follow-up one. He seems to be over it. I had almost a whole month to think about potential sock puppets having been involved in my own ban, and would strongly advise you to stop your frivolous accusations. Biohistorian15 (talk) 18:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC) I second the request for checkuser. In the past Anglo Pyramidologist has sometimes used many sock puppets at a time, so if the "Emil Kirkegaard HBD" account belonged to that puppeteer, he might also be using other socks that no one has identified yet. MonkEBobo08 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) also looks likely to have been a sock of someone, possibly the same user. Someone should examine whether whoever used the "Emil Kirkegaard HBD" account has recently been using any others. 2A02:FE1:7191:F500:1D68:AEEA:EBA5:D751 (talk) 22:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC) After spending some more time researching the background of the accounts and the IP here, I've discovered another connection between Psychologist Guy, Emil Kirkegaard HBD, and the 51.6.193.169 IP. On 4 June, Psychologist Guy added this content [9] [10] in the Mankind Quarterly and OpenPsych articles: Emil Kirkegaard a Danish white supremacist and founder of the OpenPsych journal was the registrant of the Mankind Quarterly website between 2017 and February 2023, after which the WHOIS was anonymised. Danish white supremacist Emil Kirkegaard, the registrant of the Mankind Quarterly website. Kirkegaard has controversially pushed for the legalization of child pornography. On 3 July, the 51.6.193.169 IP posted this comment [11] on Talk:Helmuth Nyborg: For the record, there are plenty of mainstream sources calling Kirkegaard a "white supremacist" which also document his abhorrent views on child pornography. The article linked to in that comment was also cited in Psychologist Guy's two edits. Anglo Pyramidologist also had posted the same article on his Twitter before those edits were made. This article is from an obscure local news website for the U.S. state of Wyoming, not a well-known newspaper that lots of people would have noticed. On 9 August, "Emil Kirkegaard HBD" edited the Mankind Quarterly article [12] with an edit summary saying, I am the domain owner of Mankind Quarterly, it is not a racist journal. This obviously was an impersonation, and only a tiny number of people (maybe only one person) care so much about publicizing his ownership of that domain that they would impersonate him to do it. Now that Psychologist Guy has mentioned that he sometimes posts things that Anglo Pyramidologist sends him, this similarity between him, the fake Emil Kirkegaard and the 51.6.193.169 IP looks suspicious. It also is another reason "Emil Kirkegaard HBD" probably is not Mikemikev, as Mikemikev has never shown an interest in who owns that domain. 2A02:FE1:7191:F500:1D68:AEEA:EBA5:D751 (talk) 23:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC) This SPI has gone bizarre. "I've discovered another connection between Psychologist Guy, Emil Kirkegaard HBD, and the 51.6.193.169 IP", "Now that Psychologist Guy has mentioned that he sometimes posts things that Anglo Pyramidologist sends him", the former is delusion and the latter is misinformation. I received a single email and some of the facts I was told check out such as the claim you are heavily involved with Kirkegaard which is obvious from your own posting history. I have no relation to these IPs or accounts, nor do I post for AP or have any personal association with this individual. The edits I made you quoted were made on June 4 and have no connection to any IP or other accounts, it's embarrassing if you are trying to connect me to that IP, you are getting desperate. In the past I have been attacked by Kirkegaard as have other Wikipedia editors, for example he refers to me on his blog as a "woke editor" [13], perhaps that is why you are targeting me now. I have had private email correspondence with several experienced users about this current SPI. Not one user wants to get involved out of fear of getting abuse, harassed or stalked through Kirkegaard and his far-right followers. I regret getting involved and posting here because I will obviously be Kirkegaard's next victim (I have already received abuse through email from another of his followers only an hour ago), so I won't be commenting to you again. Your MO is obviously harassment and misinformation. This is the worst SPI I have seen in a while, an admin should look at this. Psychologist Guy (talk) 01:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC) {hab}} Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments