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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 March 8. Primefac (talk) 16:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Issno (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

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Module:Cfd

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The result of the discussion was delete. There is a consensus to use Template:Cfd all instead of the module. Please make sure all existing functionality is kept intact before replacement and deletion. Primefac (talk) 23:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Cfd (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary Lua module, can be implemented in Wikitext. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging participants from Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 February 13#Template:Cfd all: @Gonnym, Trialpears, Dmehus, Tom (LT), and Kingboyk:. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Just make sure all features from the modules are there first. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 19:21, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and I concur with Trialpears. I assume we'd update the 789 transclusions to use {{Cfd all}} instead? Seems like a reasonable nomination. Doug Mehus T·C 19:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm not invested in this module/template group so not going to add an official !vote to this for the moment. I will say that I believe module code to be superior to template code and that less people being able to edit Lua, does not matter in high-risk barely-edited modules. That said, Module:Cfd is badly written and not really taking advantage of the fact that its written in Lua. --Gonnym (talk) 20:05, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:California City Whiptails roster

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:California City Whiptails roster (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Team is now defunct; roster template is no longer necessary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pozzi.c (talk • contribs) 18:13, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

delete, no longer needed. Frietjes (talk) 14:52, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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remaining link language wrappers

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The result of the discussion was delete per this discussion and related TfD. Primefac (talk) 16:23, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above is a list of {{xx icon}} templates that remain following the conclusion of Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 January 10 § Link language wrappers with under 100 transclusions. The existence of these templates is apparently the reason that Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 February 4 § Template:Link language is stalled.

All of this is a followup to Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 June 9 § Link language wrappers where there was a consensus to remove usage of these wrappers but not for deletion. Monkbot/task 15 replaced almost all of the {{xx icon}} templates, their redirects, and {{link language}} and its redirects with {{in lang}}. Monkbot/task 15 continues to replace a handful of these templates daily. It is time to unstick the deletion process, delete these remaining {{xx icon}} templates, so that the {{link language}} tld can proceed, and then retire Monkbot/task 15.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per my previous arguments on all 3 previous discussions. --Gonnym (talk) 18:57, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The whole "Keep the templates that used to be high use after orphaning the entire batch" thing was bogus from the start. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:12, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Week keep Unnecessarily disrupting 8 (which is about how many task 15 edits Monkbot does a day) content creator a day by removing a feature that they have used for years is not a good idea if it can reasonably be avoided. However stalling this entire process because of it is almost as bad with it keeping duplicate category trees and templates and causing a lot of confusion. My preference can be seen at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 January 10#Link language wrappers with under 100 transclusions, but that doesn't seem to be gaining much traction. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 19:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Please delete. these things need to go. [per my statements in all previous discussions] –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've just checked several, and they were all already marked {{Being deleted}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:57, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Election top

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The result of the discussion was delete after substitution. Primefac (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Election top (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Election bottom (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Practically unused set of templates (once in 2009). They should be substituted and deleted. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 14:35, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Subst and delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:19, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Substitute and delete per nom; only 4 transclusions, so it seems this template has been superceded by another template. Doug Mehus T·C 22:22, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Subst and delete per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:54, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. These templates are used, even if there is no anticipated further use. Substituting would unnecessarily clutter these pages with redundant code. --Bsherr (talk) 06:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Replace with {{Archive top}} and delete. The current transclusions are on Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/February 2009 election . Looking at the last year article Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/2019 CUOS appointments/CU, these use {{Archive top}}. --Gonnym (talk) 10:29, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 ==== [[Template:Issno]] ====
+<div class="boilerplate tfd vfd tfd-closed" style="background-color: #e3f9df; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
-* {{Tfd links|Issno}}
+:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span>  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).''
-Completely redundant/inferior to {{tl|ISSN}}, created because <s>someone didn't understand how to use {{tl|ISSN}}</s> of a [[Template_talk:ISSN#Template-protected_edit_request_on_23_February_2020|very fixable issue]]. Possibly a case of [[WP:CSD#T3]]. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 19:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
+The result of the discussion was '''relisted'''<!-- Tfd top --> on [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 March 8#Template:Issno|2020 March 8]]. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 16:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
-*'''Comment'''.  This template makes a necessary fix to {{tl|ISSN}}, which currently gives broken results for newspapers (and anything else that isn't a journal). I am not the template creator, but I've previously raised this issue on [[Template talk:ISSN link]], where the one response was opposed to the solution of replacing the Worldcat link with issn.org. (Another solution would be to have a param that would replace "jrnl", e.g. with "news" for newspaper.) AFAICT the creator created this template in order to illustrate the issue, so it's a little unclear why it's being TFD'd before the problem has been resolved. If people want to keep the existing journal-specific behavior of {{tl|ISSN}}, then we're going to need some other template for non-journals -- in that case I imagine we'd want to have this template handy as a starting point. -- [[User:Visviva|Visviva]] ([[User talk:Visviva|talk]]) 04:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
+* {{tfd links|Issno}}
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 ==== [[Module:Cfd]] ====
+<div class="boilerplate tfd vfd tfd-closed" style="background-color: #e3f9df; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
+:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span>  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).''
+The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. There is a consensus to use [[Template:Cfd all]] instead of the module. Please make sure all existing functionality is kept intact before replacement and deletion. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 23:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * {{Tfd links|Cfd|module=Module:}}
 Unnecessary Lua module, can be implemented in Wikitext. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 19:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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 *'''Delete''' and I concur with {{u|Trialpears}}. I assume we'd update the 789 transclusions to use {{tl|Cfd all}} instead? Seems like a reasonable nomination. [[User:Dmehus|'''Doug Mehus''']]''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">  [[User talk:Dmehus|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/Dmehus|C]]</span>'' 19:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * '''Comment:''' I'm not invested in this module/template group so not going to add an official !vote to this for the moment. I will say that I believe module code to be superior to template code and that less people being able to edit Lua, does not matter in high-risk barely-edited modules. That said, [[Module:Cfd]] is badly written and not really taking advantage of the fact that its written in Lua. --[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 20:05, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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 ==== [[Template:California City Whiptails roster]] ====
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 ==== remaining link language wrappers ====
+<div class="boilerplate tfd vfd tfd-closed" style="background-color: #e3f9df; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
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+The result of the discussion was '''delete''' per this discussion and [[Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2020_February_4#Template:Link_language|related TfD]]. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 16:23, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<!-- Tfd top -->
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 * '''Please delete.''' these things need to go. [per my statements in all previous discussions] &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[WP:WikiProject Connecticut|☖]]</sup></span> 17:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * '''Comment''' I've just checked several, and they were all already marked {{tl|Being deleted}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 22:57, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
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 ==== [[Template:Election top]] ====
+<div class="boilerplate tfd vfd tfd-closed" style="background-color: #e3f9df; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
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+The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top --> after substitution. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 16:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * {{Tfd links|Election top}}
 * {{Tfd links|Election bottom}}
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 * '''Keep'''. These templates are used, even if there is no anticipated further use. Substituting would unnecessarily clutter these pages with redundant code. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 06:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * '''Replace with {{tl|Archive top}} and delete'''. The current transclusions are on [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/February 2009 election ]]. Looking at the last year article [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/2019 CUOS appointments/CU]], these use {{tl|Archive top}}. --[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 10:29, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
+:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).''</div>