Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests

Here the community can nominate articles to be selected as "Today's featured article" (TFA) on the main page. The TFA section aims to highlight the range of articles that have "featured article" status, from Art and architecture through to Warfare, and wherever possible it tries to avoid similar topics appearing too close together without good reason. Requests are not the only factor in scheduling the TFA (see Choosing Today's Featured Article); the final decision rests with the TFA coordinators: Wehwalt, Dank, Gog the Mild and SchroCat, who also select TFAs for dates where no suggestions are put forward. Please confine requests to this page, and remember that community endorsement on this page does not necessarily mean the article will appear on the requested date. The article must be a featured article. Editors who are not significant contributors to the article should consult regular editors of the article before nominating it for TFAR. The article must not have appeared as TFA before (see the list of possibilities here), except that: The TFA coordinators may choose to fill up to two slots each week with FAs that have previously been on the main page, so long as the prior appearance was at least five years ago. The coordinators will invite discussion on general selection criteria for re-runnable TFAs, and aim to make individual selections within those criteria. The request must be either for a specific date within the next 30 days that has not yet been scheduled, or a non-specific date. The template {{@TFA}} can be used in a message to "ping" the coordinators through the notification system. If you have an exceptional request that deviates from these instructions (for example, an article making a second appearance as TFA, or a "double-header"), please discuss the matter with the TFA coordinators beforehand. It can be helpful to add the article to the pending requests template, if the desired date for the article is beyond the 30-day period. This does not guarantee selection, but does help others see what nominations may be forthcoming. Requesters should still nominate the article here during the 30-day time-frame.

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How to post a new nomination: I. Create the nomination subpage. In the box below, enter the full name of the article you are nominating (without using any brackets around the article's name) and click the button to create your nomination page. II. Write the nomination. On that nomination page, fill out as many of the relevant parts of the pre-loaded {{TFAR nom}} template as you can, then save the page. Your nomination should mention: when the last similar article was, since this helps towards diversity on the main page (browsing Wikipedia:Today's featured article/recent TFAs will help you find out); when the article was promoted to FA status (since older articles may need extra checks); and (for date-specific nominations) the article's relevance for the requested date. III. Write the blurb. Some Featured Articles promoted between 2016 and 2020 have pre-prepared blurbs, found on the talk page of the FAC nomination (that's the page linked from "it has been identified" at the top of the article's talk page). If there is one, copy and paste that to the nomination, save it, and then edit as needed. For other FAs, you're welcome to create your own TFA text as a summary of the lead section, or you can ask for assistance at WT:TFAR. We use one paragraph only, with no reference tags or alternative names; the only thing bolded is the first link to the article title. The length when previewed is between 925 and 1025 characters including spaces, " (Full article...)" and the featured topic link if applicable. More characters may be used when no free-use image can be found. Fair use images are not allowed. IV. Post at TFAR. After you have created the nomination page, add it here under a level-3 heading for the preferred date (or under a free non-specific date header). To do this, add (replacing "ARTICLE TITLE" with the name of your nominated article): ===February 29=== {{Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/ARTICLE TITLE}} Nominations are ordered by requested date below the summary chart. More than one article can be nominated for the same date. It would also then be helpful to add the nomination to the summary chart, following the examples there. Please include the name of the article that you are nominating in your edit summary. If you are not one of the article's primary editors, please then notify the primary editors of the TFA nomination; if primary editors are no longer active, please add a message to the article talk page. Scheduling: In the absence of exceptional circumstances, TFAs are scheduled in date order, not according to how long nominations have been open or how many supportive comments they have. So, for example, January 31 will not be scheduled until January 30 has been scheduled (by TFAR nomination or otherwise).

Summary chart

Currently accepting requests from January 1 to January 31.

The TFAR requests page is currently accepting nominations from January 1 to January 31. Articles for dates beyond then can be listed here, but please note that doing so does not count as a nomination and does not guarantee selection. Before listing here, please check for dead links using checklinks or otherwise, and make sure all statements have good references. This is particularly important for older FAs and reruns. view • • history • watch
Date	Article	Reason	Primary author(s)	Added by (if different)
2025:
January 1	York Park	Why		Harizotoh9
January 6	Maria Trubnikova	Why	Ganesha811	Dank
January 8	Elvis Presley	Why	PL290, DocKino, Rikstar	Dank
January 9	Title (album)	Why	MaranoFan
January 20	Andrew Jackson	Why	Wtfiv	Sheila1988
January 22	Caitlin Clark	Why	Sportzeditz	Dank
February 9	Japanese battleship Tosa	Why	The ed17
February 10	Siege of Baghdad	Why	AirshipJungleman29
March 1	Meurig ab Arthfael	Why	Dudley Miles	Sheila1988
March 10	Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number	Why	NegativeMP1
March 12	2020 Seattle Sounders FC season	Why	SounderBruce
March 18	Edward the Martyr	Why	Amitchell125	Sheila1988
March 26	Pierre Boulez	Why	Dmass	Sheila1988
April 12	Dolly de Leon	Why	Pseud 14
April 15	Lady Blue (TV series)	Why	Aoba47	Harizotoh9
April 18	Battle of Poison Spring	Why	HF
April 24	"I'm God"	Why	Skyshifter
April 25	1925 FA Cup Final	Why	Kosack	Dank
May	21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian) (re-run, first TFA was May 14, 2015)	Why	Peacemaker67
May 6	Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories	Why		Harizotoh9
May 10	Ben&Ben	Why	Pseud 14
May 11	Mother (Meghan Trainor song)	Why	MaranoFan
June	The Combat: Woman Pleading for the Vanquished	Why	iridescent	Harizotoh9
June 3	David Evans (RAAF officer)	Why		Harizotoh9
June 6	American logistics in the Northern France campaign	Why	Hawkeye7	Sheila1988
June 8	Barbara Bush	Why		Harizotoh9
July 1	Maple syrup	Why	Nikkimaria	Dank
July 7	Gustav Mahler	Why	Brianboulton	Dank
July 14	William Hanna	Why	Rlevse	Dank
July 26	Liz Truss	Why	Tim O'Doherty	Tim O'Doherty and Dank
July 29	Tiger	Why	LittleJerry
July 31	Battle of Warsaw (1705)	Why	Imonoz	Harizotoh9
August 4	Death of Ms Dhu	Why	Freikorp	AirshipJungleman29
August 23	Yugoslav torpedo boat T3	Why	Peacemaker67
August 30	Late Registration	Why		Harizotoh9
September 2	1905–06 New Brompton F.C. season	Why		Harizotoh9
September 6	Hurricane Ophelia (2005)	Why		Harizotoh9
September 20	Myst V: End of Ages	Why		Harizotoh9
September 30 or October 1	Hoover Dam	Why	NortyNort, Wehwalt	Dank
October 1	Yugoslav torpedo boat T4	Why	Peacemaker67
October 3	Spaghetti House siege	Why	SchroCat	Dank
October 10	Tragic Kingdom	Why	EA Swyer	Harizotoh9
October 16	Angela Lansbury	Why	Midnightblueowl	MisawaSakura
October 18	Royal Artillery Memorial	Why	HJ Mitchell	Ham II
November 1	Matanikau Offensive	Why		Harizotoh9
November 19	Water Under the Bridge	Why	MaranoFan
November 20	Nuremberg trials	Why	buidhe	harizotoh9
November 21	Canoe River train crash	Why	Wehwalt
December 25	Marcus Trescothick	Why		Harizotoh9
2026:
January 27	History of the Jews in Dęblin and Irena during World War II	Why		Harizotoh9
February 27	Raichu	Why	Kung Fu Man
March 13	Swift Justice	Why		Harizotoh9
May 5	Me Too (Meghan Trainor song)	Why	MaranoFan
June 1	Rhine campaign of 1796	Why		harizotoh9
June 8	Types Riot	Why	Z1720
July 23	Veronica Clare	Why		Harizotoh9
September 20	Persona (series)	Why		Harizotoh9
November	The Story of Miss Moppet	Why		Harizotoh9
November 11	U.S. Route 101	Why	SounderBruce
October 15	Easy on Me	Why	MaranoFan
November 20	Tôn Thất Đính	Why		Harizotoh9
December 21	Fredonian Rebellion	Why		Harizotoh9
December 22	Title (song)	Why	MaranoFan
2027:
June	1987 (What the Fuck Is Going On?)	Why
August 25	Genghis Khan	Why	AirshipJungleman29
October 15	The Motherland Calls	Why	Joeyquism

Date	Article	Points	Notes	Supports†	Opposes†
Nonspecific 1	Icelandic Phallological Museum	NA	not doing points	3
Nonspecific 2	Rhyolite, Nevada	4	FA > 2 = 2, None recent = 2	3	1
Nonspecific 3	Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky and The Five	2	2 year FA	3	1
Nonspecific 4
Nonspecific 5
September 30	Les pêcheurs de perles	1	day of premiere	1	2
October 5	Appaloosa	6	1 year FA, nothing similar 6 mo, date relevance, wide coverage.	6	0
October 8	Little Butte Creek (Rogue River)	5	2 year FA, nothing similar 6 mo., date relevance	1	1
October 10	Allegro (musical)	4	65th anniversary of opening, 1 year FA, nothing similar 6 mo.	9	0
October 14	Southern Cross Expedition	2	>2 year FA.	3	0
October 18	Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough	3	Date relevance, 2 year FA.	5	0

^† Tally may not be up to date; please do not use these tallies for removing a nomination according to criteria 1 or 3 above unless you have verified the numbers. The nominator is included in the number of supporters.

Nonspecific date nominations (5 max)

Nonspecific date 1

Icelandic Phallological Museum

File:2008 Iceland national handball team - phallic casts.jpg

The Icelandic Phallological Museum, in Reykjavík, Iceland, houses the world's largest collection of penises and penile parts. The collection of 280 specimens from 93 species of animals includes 55 penises taken from whales, 36 from seals and 118 from land mammals. In July 2011, the museum obtained its first human penis (one of four promised by would-be donors) though its detachment from the donor's body did not go very well and it is now a "greyish-brown, shrivelled mass" pickled in a jar of formaldehyde. The museum continues to search for "a younger and a bigger and better one." Founded in 1997 by retired teacher Sigurður Hjartarson and run by his son Hjörtur Gísli Sigurðsson, the museum grew out of an interest in penises that began when Sigurður was given a bull's penis to use as a cattle whip when he was a boy. The museum has become a popular tourist attraction with thousands of visitors a year—the majority of them women—and has attracted international media attention, including a Canadian documentary film called The Final Member, which covers the museum's quest to obtain a human penis. According to its mission statement, the museum aims to enable "individuals to undertake serious study into the field of phallology in an organized, scientific fashion." (more...)

PumpkinSky talk 23:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

"Support", although I should point out that both Iceland and Idaho begin with “I”. pls give equal consideration to other letters of teh Elphaba. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 23:57, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support It's not often that we get such a well written article about a museum. And we haven't had many Iceland featured articles either. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:57, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

• To be honest (as the author) I'd prefer this to be held over until Valentine's Day, on the grounds that dicks are most relevant to that date. I wasn't intending to nominate it until next January for just that reason. Prioryman (talk) 00:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

  What a romantic idea, Prioryman. Jonathunder (talk) 00:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

  *cough* I'd have no problem with you withdrawing this ;) It does say in Valentine's Day that you should give a bit of dick to the one(s) you love… Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:37, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

• Whot! An article that supports male dominance for V-day! what will SarahStierch think and Sue Gardner and the 9% editors that are female? Woooooo! MathewTownsend (talk) 01:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support - Agree with Mark. It's new and should run it before it gets trashed with maintenance tags. The Crater Lake article had two dead links and another tag. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Sigh, why are we still promoting articles to TFA as "wiki's best" when they have tags? PumpkinSky talk 01:27, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 2

Rhyolite, Nevada

Rhyolite, Nevada, is a ghost town in Nye County, in the U.S. state of Nevada. It is located in the Bullfrog Hills, about 120 miles (190 km) northwest of Las Vegas, near the eastern edge of Death Valley. The town began in early 1905 as one of several mining camps that sprang up after a prospecting discovery in the surrounding hills. During an ensuing gold rush, thousands of gold-seekers, developers, miners, and service providers flocked to the Bullfrog Mining District. Many settled in Rhyolite, which lay in a sheltered desert basin near the region's biggest producer, the Montgomery Shoshone Mine. Rhyolite declined almost as rapidly as it rose. After the richest ore was exhausted, production fell. The 1906 San Francisco earthquake and the financial panic of 1907 made it more difficult to raise development capital. By the end of 1910, the mine was operating at a loss, and it closed in 1911. By this time, many out-of-work miners had moved elsewhere, and Rhyolite's population close to zero by 1920. After 1920, Rhyolite and its ruins became a tourist attraction and a setting for motion pictures. (more...)

• FA > 2 = 2, None recent = 2, underrep (ghost towns) = 2 PumpkinSky talk 23:22, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support ...ghost towns...Nevada...what's not to like? Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment- Ghost towns are not an FA topic, so they can't be underrepresented. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 14:54, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment - With the upcoming Craters of the Moon National Park would support this at a later date; otherwise a bit two much emphasis on the same region of the US. Truthkeeper (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Parks vs Ghost Towns...not a lot in common. PumpkinSky talk 00:09, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Comment Idaho & Nevada have a border in common in a relatively sparsely populated region, that's what. The Craters of the Moon National Park are TFA today; this should wait a month, assuming there is nothing else local in the meantime. Johnbod (talk) 17:26, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• I see nothing in the rules about population density determining eligibility, but topic is mention prominently and parks and ghost towns have nothing in common plus IIRC we've never had a ghost town TFA.PumpkinSky talk 02:07, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose it can wait a while to give this general region of the US a break from exposure. Bencherlite^Talk 11:43, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support Ghost towns are a totally different topic from national monuments; geography is irrelevant, and these are two different states and totally unrelated topics. Ghost towns are significant historical artifacts from a major era in US history, particularly these abandoned mining towns. I have never heard a more silly and, to be frank, a more blatently ignorant statement than Johnbod's remark that opposing a nom should occur because two different articles are about places that share a common border or have few people; does that mean we should not run articles on both the USA and Canada in close time proximity because they too share a border? Or perhaps we should not run articles close together on both the Gobi desert and Darwin, Australia because both are sparsely inhabited? Such comments express bias against those of us who live in the American west and study its history. Is half of the United States irrelevant to wikipedia because fewer people live there? Are our topics less important than anyone else's? Montanabw^(talk) 16:20, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose for now and with reluctance. I think this is a spectacular article and should be TFA; but not in 2012. Here are my reasons: it was me, not Johnbod, who mentioned the lack of population in the states bordering Idaho. It is relevant because there simply is not a lot to write about, nor I suspect many writers from those areas writing featured content, etc. I know the area well and am not trying to bash it. But in 2012 we've run the Yogo sapphire page about Montana gems – Montana borders Idaho – and Craters of the Moon National Monument and Preserve, and now a proposal for yet a third page that borders Idaho. This is an issue with diffusion of content that I mentioned on the talk page - we need to be judicious with when we run these pages and not clump them all together. That's my view, anyway. And I don't like opposing such a nice page – so I hope that when people put forth proposals they look closely at the categories to see how well we're diffusing our TFA content. Struck comments because too tired to explain and no one is understanding. Truthkeeper (talk) 21:06, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

  It's almost like there's some guy in Boise who obsessively edits Wikipedia... Seriously though, the Idaho connection is a bit of a stretch. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:15, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

  This is daft; an Idaho cabal? nb: it also borders British Columbia. Rhyolite is 1,000 km from the Craters park, and Yogo Gulch is more than 1,600 km (and about 700km from Craters). FWIW, I've never been to Idaho or Montana, and Nevada was simply driven through (and flown over;).
  The pool of FAs is uneven because people chose to write about whatever the feel like, leaving vast topic areas untended. This page is about drawing from that pool, regardless of how shite got there. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 23:44, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 3

Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky and The Five

Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky and The Five argued about music in Russia in the 19th century. The Five, also known as The Mighty Handful, were composers Mily Balakirev, Alexander Borodin, César Cui, Modest Mussorgsky and Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, who wanted to produce a specifically Russian kind of art music, rather than one that imitated older European music or relied on European-style conservatory training. Tchaikovsky wanted to write professional compositions of a quality that would stand up to Western scrutiny and thus transcend national barriers, yet remain distinctively Russian in melody, rhythm and other compositional characteristics. The Five also believed in using the melodic, harmonic, tonal and rhythmic properties of Russian folk song, along with exotic melodic, harmonic and rhythmic elements from music originating in the middle- and far-eastern parts of the Russian Empire (a practice that would become known as musical orientalism), as compositional devices in their own works. (more...)

2 points for no similar articles as TFA, artists in interaction --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support Nearly forgotten but still a great composer and an interesting article...Modernist (talk) 23:59, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support very nice page. Truthkeeper (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

You said below "too much music" - I think Russian symphony, French opera and a musical are all different (and 2 non-US), but if too much, this no-date should wait, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 28, 2012 was Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky and the Belyayev circle, so there's no points as claimed for "no similar articles as TFA" but there would be two points for the 2yrs+ that this has been a FA. However, I think that this one can wait a bit given the very similar article not that long ago. Bencherlite^Talk 11:49, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

• Changing to oppose per the June 2012 Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky and the Belyayev circle. Again, with reluctance but for reasons of diffusing the TFA content. Truthkeeper (talk) 21:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Specific date nominations (10 max)

September 30

Les pêcheurs de perles

Les pêcheurs de perles (The Pearl Fishers) is an opera in three acts by the French composer Georges Bizet, to a libretto by Eugène Cormon and Michel Carré. It was first performed on 30 September 1863 at the Théâtre Lyrique in Paris, and was given 18 performances in its initial run. Set in ancient times on the island of Ceylon, the opera is a story of how two men's vow of eternal friendship is threatened by their love for the same woman, whose own dilemma is the conflict between secular love and her sacred oath as a priestess. The friendship duet "Au fond du temple saint", generally known as "The Pearl Fishers Duet", is one of the best-known numbers in Western opera. Despite a good reception by the public, press reactions to the work were generally hostile and dismissive, although other composers, notably Hector Berlioz, found considerable merit in the music. Commentators describe the quality of the music as uneven and at times unoriginal, but acknowledge the opera as a work of promise in which Bizet's gifts for melody and evocative instrumentation are evident. They have identified clear premonitions of the composer's genius which would culminate, ten years later, in Carmen. (more...)

1 point for day of premiere, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:55, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• Comment - This is a nice page but we're getting too many music pages with Allegro below and Tchaikovsky above. Would support if they can be more spaced out. Same comment applies to Allegro - only two weeks between the two. Truthkeeper (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment If we can wait a year it's the 150th anniversary. Johnbod (talk) 00:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment I was thinking of nomming Nixon in China (opera) for its 25th anniversary on October 22, if I can find the time to put in references to the new book that came out about it last year and that I went to a library to copy parts of ... just saying.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:26, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose this can wait until its 150th anniversary and there are other music articles nominated here, need to space them out. Bencherlite^Talk 11:43, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose at this time. This is a brilliant article, but Nixon in China would be a more appropriate October 2012 opera TFA; let's wait for the 150th anniversary for Les pecheurs. Brianboulton (talk) 14:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

October 5

Appaloosa

The Appaloosa is a horse breed best known for its colorful leopard-spotted coat pattern. There is a wide range of body types within the breed, stemming from the influence of multiple breeds of horses throughout its history. The color pattern of the Appaloosa is of great interest to those who study equine coat color genetics, as it and several other physical characteristics are linked to the leopard complex mutation (LP). Artwork depicting prehistoric horses with leopard spotting existed in cave paintings. The Nez Perce people of the United States Pacific Northwest developed the original American breed. It is best known as a stock horse used in a number of western riding disciplines, but is also a versatile breed with representatives seen in many other types of equestrian activity. The Nez Perce lost most of their horses after the Nez Perce War in 1877. A small number of dedicated breeders preserved the Appaloosa as a distinct breed until the Appaloosa Horse Club (ApHC) was formed as the breed registry in 1938. (more...)

One point for age, 2 points for widely covered, two points nothing similar six months. Oct 5 is the 135th anniversary of the end of the Nez Perce War.--PumpkinSky talk 02:42, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support, good move, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:17, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support A featured article that deserves to be on the main page.--Lucky102 (talk) 16:08, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support As one of the lead editors on the piece, we'd be honored to have it appear. But can you chop this sentence from the blurb? "Appaloosas are prone to develop equine recurrent uveitis and congenital stationary night blindness; the latter has been linked to the leopard complex" It's accurate, and in the lead, but given its prevalence (8%), may be undue weight for the main page blurb. Montanabw^(talk) 20:34, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• Done. And thanks!PumpkinSky talk 20:39, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• You (everybody) can change the blurb yourself, that's part of the quality discussion here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support Can we have a close up rear view to show the world?  :)--Wehwalt (talk) 20:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• If we find one, sure!PumpkinSky talk 20:39, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• The article already contains File:Appaloosa46-2.jpg a ways down the page (see "blanket with spots") LOL! Montanabw^(talk) 20:49, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• OH YEA forgot about that one! PumpkinSky talk 21:06, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support Truthkeeper (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

October 8

Little Butte Creek (Rogue River)

The Little Butte Creek is a 17-mile (27 km) long tributary of the Rogue River located in the U.S. state of Oregon. Its drainage basin consists of approximately 354 square miles (920 km²) of Jackson County, and another 19 square miles (49 km²) in Klamath County. The north fork of the creek begins at Fish Lake, while the south fork begins near Brown Mountain. The two forks flow generally west until they meet near Lake Creek. The creek then flows through the communities of Brownsboro, Eagle Point, and White City, finally emptying into the Rogue River about 3 miles (4.8 km) west of Eagle Point. Little Butte Creek's watershed was originally settled by the Takelma, and possibly the Shasta tribes of Native Americans. In the Rogue River Wars of the 1850s, most of the Native Americans were either killed or forced onto Indian reservations. (more...)

Two points for age, 1 for date relevance, two points nothing similar six months. Oct 8 is the 157th anniversary of battle at mouth of river.PumpkinSky talk 00:52, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

• Comments: the blurb would not make me click. The date relevance is not visible, but the snow is. In October, I would like to see a different image ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment – I think a river is nice, but another article about the American West/Northwest. Needs some spreading out imo. Truthkeeper (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose. Referencing mechanism is incredibly old-school; not an example of best practice. <br /> 23:22, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Haha, probably incredibly two-and-a-half years ago, when it passed. Out of curiosity, do you know of an article that follows the "best practice?" LittleMountain5 01:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

That'd be {{harvnb}} or {{sfn}}, which do literally the same thing except with a template. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 01:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

And they do more, such as facilitate WP:V and ease maintenance. <br /> 01:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Not really, [[#blah|reference]] isn't much more than {{sfn|author|date|pages}}. Same with <ref name="Source" group=Note/> versus {{refn|name=Source|group=Note}}. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

/yeah/, really ;) You're just missing it. A pity… <br /> 02:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

The old school refs aren't longer in wikitext and look the same. Good enough for me. ;-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Not the only concerns, though… <br /> 02:57, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I know quite a few of them ;) this was unimpressive. <br /> 01:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

...An example would be nice. What are your other concerns? LittleMountain5 05:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Allegro (musical)'s handy, just below. You not making any effort to restore the edits I'd made that you stepped on is still of concern ;) <br /> 06:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Since two-thirds of the references are online sources, I feel that the method already in use is better in this case. But the sfn template does clean up the code a bit, so I might try using that. Thanks! Is the coding the problem here, or the general layout? I've long sought after a viable alternative to the reference layout... it feels clunky to me.

I apologize for the edit stomp. I fully intended to restore your changes, and was in the process of doing so when you restored them yourself. Cheers, LittleMountain5 14:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

• A battle that doesn't even get mentioned in the blurb is far too tenuous a link to merit a date relevance point, IMHO. Bencherlite^Talk 08:49, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

October 10

Allegro

Allegro is a musical by Richard Rodgers (music) and Oscar Hammerstein II (book and lyrics), their third collaboration for the stage, which premiered on Broadway on October 10, 1947. After the immense successes of the first two Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals, Oklahoma! and Carousel, the pair sought a subject for their next play. Hammerstein had long contemplated a serious work which would deal with the problems of an ordinary man in the fast-moving modern world. He and Rodgers sought to create a work which would be as innovative as their first two stage musicals. To that end, they created a play with a large cast, including a Greek chorus. After a disastrous tryout in New Haven, Connecticut, the musical opened on Broadway to a large advance sale of tickets, and very mixed reviews. The Broadway run, directed by Agnes de Mille, ended after nine months; it had no West End production, and has rarely been revived. (more...)

One point for age, one point for anniversary of Broadway opening, two points nothing similar six months.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support: a piece with an interesting story. I would like to see the date mentioned rather early in the blurb. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
• Sure. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:46, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support: looks good to me.--Chimino (talk) 07:25, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support...Modernist (talk) 18:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support – because of the article's subject and despite my view of the idiotic "date relevance" of October 10. MathewTownsend (talk) 00:12, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

• now I get it. October 10 is important and really ties in! MathewTownsend (talk) 01:42, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:03, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support Lucky102 (talk) 15:46, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support Yeknom Dnalsli (expound your voicebox here) 16:43, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support Montanabw^(talk) 17:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

October 14

Southern Cross Expedition

The Southern Cross Expedition, officially known as the British Antarctic Expedition 1898–1900, was the first British venture of the Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration, and the forerunner of the more celebrated journeys of Robert Falcon Scott and Ernest Shackleton. The brainchild of the Norwegian-born, half-British explorer and schoolmaster Carsten Borchgrevink, it was the first expedition to over-winter on the Antarctic mainland, the first to visit the Great Ice Barrier since James Clark Ross in 1839–43, and the first to effect a landing on the Barrier's surface. It also pioneered the use of dogs and sledges in Antarctic travel. The expedition was privately financed by the British magazine publisher Sir George Newnes. Taken south in the ship Southern Cross in August 1898, Borchgrevink's party spent the winter of 1899 at Cape Adare, the north-west extremity of the Ross Sea. (more...)

Promoted between over 2 years ago +2, date relevance, under represented +1 = 4, Oct 14 is date of death of the expedition zoologist. PumpkinSky talk 01:12, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support, great article on heroic topic, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
• 2 points the date relevance is far too tenuous and this is an article within the history category at WP:FA, not one of "underrepresented" categories. Bencherlite^Talk 08:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support for any date there would be more appropriate dates than this e.g. 19 December when the ship finally sails from Australia for the Antarctic, but (subject to any preference from the primary author, who I've just notified as per the instructions above) this could just run on any date the TFA scheduler wants. Bencherlite^Talk 15:18, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

October 18

Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough

Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough (1660–1744) was one of the most influential women in British history as a result of her close friendship with Queen Anne of Great Britain. By the time Anne became queen in 1702, Sarah had become a powerful friend and a dangerous enemy, the last in the long line of Stuart favourites. A strong-willed woman who liked to get her own way, Sarah tried the Queen's patience whenever she disagreed with her on political, court or church appointments. Sarah enjoyed an unusually close relationship with her husband, John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, whom she married in 1677. When Anne came to the throne, the Duke of Marlborough, together with Sidney Godolphin, rose to head the government, partly as a result of his wife's friendship with the queen. Sarah campaigned on behalf of the British Whig Party, while also devoting time to building projects such as the construction of Blenheim Palace. The money she inherited from the Marlborough trust made her one of the richest women in Europe. (more...)

Promoted between over 2 years ago +2, Date relevant to article topic +1, total = 3.--Lucky102 (talk) 21:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

• Comment: This blurb needs work. Should be one paragraph, and the date is generally year only. Looks a little short, but that could just be me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:28, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
• Comment: I have re-written the blurb. See what you think -- Dianna (talk) 14:43, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• From a technical aspect it's better, but I don't think it needs the dates. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:19, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• Support - Interesting read. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:29, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support this excellent article. --Coemgenus (talk) 12:21, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support, interesting (and another woman), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support- I really like this page; might need a bit of tidying. Truthkeeper (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• 2 points - death dates, by longstanding convention on this page, do not get a date relevance point unless the death itself was notable (e.g. the death of John Lennon gave his article a date relevance point). Bencherlite^Talk 08:33, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

This page is changing. The point math seems only relevant if there is "competition" about a specific day, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, so why do we need points at all any more? Nominate an article for a slot, explain why it deserves it and let supports/opposes/"prefer the competing article" decide, rather than artificial discussions about whether a previous recent TFA is sufficiently similar to a nominated one to impose a points penalty. It would make this page far less complicated. In the meantime, let's get the points right, rather than claiming date relevance points on spurious grounds or incorrectly claiming "underrepresented" or "widely covered" points. Bencherlite^Talk 08:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

I suggest that you place that valid thought - which I would support - on the talk rather than here where it will disappear without even an archive when the Lady will be scheduled, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

I think any Date relevance should be used.--Lucky102 (talk) 19:40, 18 September 2012 (UTC)