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<big>'''This page is no longer active, please see [[WP:RUSSIA|WikiProject Russia]], and discussion at its talk page, [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia]]'''</big> |
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== New article: [[List of Soviet tank factories]] == |
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== WikiProject collaboration notice from the [[WP:WPPORT|Portals WikiProject]] == |
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[[List of Soviet tank factories]]. ''—[[User:Mzajac |Michael]] [[User talk:Mzajac |Z.]] <small>2007-02-06 07:59 Z</small>'' |
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The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them. |
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== Pages needing the most work == |
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Portals are being redesigned. |
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I thought that we should make a list of pages that need more work than others. What does anyone else think? [[User:Eurohistbuff|Eurohistbuff]] 16:04, 8 March 2007 |
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The new design features are being applied to existing portals. |
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== Categories == |
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At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{tl|Transclude lead excerpt}}. |
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The existing categories used to tag Russian history content are a bit of a mess. I (MP) suggest we begin our work by simply collecting what's out there in Wikispace and tagging it with the "History of Russia" category. See task one below. That will give us a good impression of what sorts of category hierarchies (temporal, geographic, national) are currently being employed. Once we are done with that, we can rationalize existing categories, e.g., |
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The discussion about this can be found '''[[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Portals#AWB_team_please_tackle_maintenance_run_on_intro_sections|here]]'''. |
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#History of the East Slavs |
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##History of Russia |
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###East Slavic Migrations to Rus' |
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#### (etc.) |
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###Kievan Rus' |
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####Foundation of Rus' |
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Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Portals#Specific_portal_maintainers|here]]''', noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time. |
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== History of the Soviet Union == |
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On April 8th, 2018, an [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/RfC: Ending the system of portals|RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace]]. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals. |
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Yikes! What the heck happened to [[History of the Soviet Union]]? Wikipedia does not have such a thing as "[[Talk:History_of_the_Soviet_Union#Fake_TOC |a single article consisting of four pages]]". I have eliminated the misleading and broken fake TOC on that article. I strongly suggest that someone move this one to [[History of the Soviet Union up to 1927]] and rebuild an actual summary article about the entire history of the Soviet Union (covering at least the years 1922 to 1981). ''—[[User:Mzajac |Michael]] [[User talk:Mzajac |Z.]] <small>2007-07-21 19:16 Z</small>'' |
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There's an [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2018-05-24/WikiProject report|article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject]]. |
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== Re-Assessment of the Cold War article? == |
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Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals. |
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Hello...the [[Cold War]] article is up for FAC, but there is a critique that the article under the Russian History WikiProject is still showing this article as a B rating, rather than A or GA. I'd like to ask that this article be reassessed, but can't find a link to ask for an assessment. Can anyone point me in the right direction, or make the request? Thanks! [[User:Hires an editor|Hires an editor]] ([[User talk:Hires an editor|talk]]) 19:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC) |
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So far, 84 editors have joined. |
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== Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Russian history == |
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If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals/Newsletter archive|newsletter archive]]. |
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[[Wikipedia:Release Version|Wikipedia 0.7]] is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team]] has made an [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/ automated selection of articles for Version 0.7]. |
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If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the [[WT:WPPORT|WikiProject's talk page]]. |
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We would like to ask you to review the [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/Russian_history.s0.html articles selected from this project]. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at [[Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7]]. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at [[Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations]]. |
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Thank you. <span class="nowrap"> — ''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|The Transhumanist]]'' </span> 11:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC) |
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A [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/cgi-bin/problems.cgi list of selected articles with cleanup tags], sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with [[Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Copyediting|copyediting requests]], although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible. |
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We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at [[User:SelectionBot/0.7/R-3|this project's subpage]] of [[User:SelectionBot/0.7]]. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, [[User:SelectionBot|SelectionBot]] 23:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Proposal for overhaul and creation of a single WP:RUSSIA project == |
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Going thru tonnes of ''Russian'' articles, I was actually very surprised to find 3 articles that one would probably expect to be featured articles are not; those being [[Russia]], [[Moscow]] and [[Russian language]]. I was also surprised to find that many articles I expected to exist do not; prime example being many of the Federal government ministries. Then there are other problems such as: |
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* Naming conventions - very little continuity and no real guidelines for Russian names and articles in wikipedia as a whole - an example is [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Russian_history#English_Versions_of_Russian_Names_-|here]]. |
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* Categorisation - naming conventions will help somewhat - following other [[Wikipedia:Naming Conventions|naming conventions]] will help too - an example of poor categorisation throughout Russian articles - [[:Category:Russian_people]] |
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* Article assessment - there are no guidelines for this, and it has resulted in some unusual [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Russia/Archive_1#Importance_ranking_very_odd|results]]. Guidelines are needed. |
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* Article review - there are no guidelines specific to Russian articles and with more than one project, other projects won't necessarily know of review requests. Additionally, because of the number of projects with very little scope in each, wider community views can be missed. For example, [[Russian language]] was a featured article until 23 August 2007. It's [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/Russian_language/archive1|featured article review]], unfortunately it went unannounced on all Russian projects, apart from [[Portal:Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board|this corner]] |
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* Collaboration - there is none to very little collaboration on Russian content between the various projects and unfortunately article quality, and perhaps stability, will suffer for it. |
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* Recruitment/outreach - As we are members of various Russian projects, we took the time to add our name to a list, because we have an interest in a certain (or all) aspect/s of Russia. New members are needed, but how will they find the projects? There needs to be co-ordination to 'recruit' new members; particularly from ru:wiki. |
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* Scope - just what is the scope for the various projects? [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Russian federal subjects]] has a very narrow yet defined scope; [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Russian history]] has a hazy 'historical' scope; a question being raised [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Russian_history/Archive_1#Scope|here]]. |
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What I am suggesting is the following projects be merged into [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Russia]] and for it to be co-ordinated much like any other all-encompassing project. The projects I am suggest to be merged are: |
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*[[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Russia]] - main project |
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*[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Russian federal subjects]] |
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*[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Russian history]] |
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*[[Portal:Russia]] |
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Other projects which can be used as guides on how to structure the project could be: |
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*[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia]] |
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*[[Portal:Australia]] - a featured portal |
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By merging all projects into a single project, we can then create "work groups" for specific Russian topics, such as: |
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*History |
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*Politics |
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*Places (geography) |
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*Culture (language, music, literature, film, etc) |
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*Biographical |
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*Society |
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*Transport |
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*Economy |
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*etc |
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Perhaps others have other ideas. |
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Of course there needs to be concensus from all projects for a merge and structures be discussed, etc, but firstly, there needs to be discussion on the pros and cons of such an idea. I have posted this on the other project talk pages, and have asked that all discussion take place [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Russia/Proposal|here]] so that all projects can read off the same page. --[[User:Russavia|Russavia]] <sup>[[User talk:Russavia|Dialogue]] [[Special:Contributions/Russavia|Stalk me]]</sup> 04:00, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
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* I think its a good idea--[[User:mrg3105|mrg3105]] ([[User talk:mrg3105|comms]]) ♠<font color="#BB0000">♥</font><font color="#BB0000">♦</font>♣ 22:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
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WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
[edit]The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.
Portals are being redesigned.
The new design features are being applied to existing portals.
At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.
The discussion about this can be found here.
Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.
Background
[edit]On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.
Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.
So far, 84 editors have joined.
If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.
If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.
Thank you. — The Transhumanist 11:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)