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Section # of Hooks # Verified
January 10 2 1
January 12 1
January 13 1
January 15 1
January 21 3
January 22 3
January 23 1
January 24 2
January 25 2
January 26 2
January 27 2
January 28
January 30 1
January 31 1
February 1 1 1
February 3 3
February 4 1
February 5 5 1
February 6 2 1
February 7 2 2
February 8 3 3
February 9 2 2
February 10 6 6
February 11 6 6
February 12 13 9
February 13 14 9
February 14 14 10
February 15 12 7
February 16 9 7
February 17 10 7
February 18 13 10
February 19 9 6
February 20 11 8
February 21 16 12
February 22 7 7
February 23 12 11
February 24 13 8
February 25 9 7
February 26 11 3
February 27 11 4
February 28 5
March 1 1
March 2 2
March 3 3
March 4 3
March 5 1
March 6 2
March 7 1
Total 255 148
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Instructions for nominators

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How do I write an interesting hook?

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Advanced procedures

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How to promote an accepted hook

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Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
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  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
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Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

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  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
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Closing the DYK nomination page
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For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

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How to remove a rejected hook

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  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
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  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

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  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

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Older nominations

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Articles created/expanded on January 10

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Eurowhiteness

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Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 254 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 09:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • You have to be very careful when referring to things that don't have physical existence like "internal contradictions". Who says the EU has any? Is it Kundnani, writing the book? Is it Auer, reviewing Kundnani? Is it you, user:Buidhe, paraphrasing Auer? DS (talk) 18:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Abstract concepts like "internal contradictions" may be different from concrete objects, but that doesn't mean they don't factually exist—WP says they do if RS agree. While researching the article, I found many sources agreeing and none disagreeing that the EU has some internal contradictions. Per WP:NPOV, "Avoid stating facts as opinions"—and there is no reason to believe that it is not factually true other than your skepticism. (t · c) buidhe 03:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't want this to be a debate on either euroskepticism or materialism, but which contradictions are those? Can you cite your sources? What if someone disagrees with your flat statement that contradictions exist? Does Kundnani use the term 'contradictions' in the book, or Auer use them in the review, or is that your interpretation? DS (talk) 19:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • "Internal contradictions" is the exact phrase used by Auer, but that should not matter because we are encouraged to paraphrase from sources anyway. There are so many sources that say the EU has internal contradictions (please do your own research rather than making assumptions that may be incorrect) that it would certainly be a POV violation to suggest this is just one person's opinion. The only potential objection I can see to the hook is that it's not hook worthy, because all political systems contain conflicting values and interests, leading to internal contradictions (for example, name a political party that doesn't engage in hypocrisy). (t · c) buidhe 19:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're assuming the validity of the book's political stance, and instead of citing your sources, you're telling me to do my own research. What happens if my research leads me to a political stance that disagrees with (you / the book)? DS (talk) 22:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I fundamentally disagree with your approach of conflating facts stated in many reliable sources with a "political stance" and discounting such facts on the basis of your own personal disagreement. Please bring some sources that we could discuss (preferably not cherry picked) or stop commenting. (t · c) buidhe 04:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please cite your sources. "There are internal contradictions in the European Union" is not objectively true or false. You're the one claiming they exist, so the burden of proof is on you. What if we said "the book misleadingly suggests that the EU has contradictions"? What if we said "the book boldly reveals that the EU has contradictions" ? Both sentences are equally true. DS (talk) 04:47, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This back and forth is clearly going nowhere and no actual review was performed, so I'm requesting another editor's attention. (t · c) buidhe 21:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • New enough: yes. Long enough: yes. Article is neutral: it needs some work. Copyvio check: 23%, which is fine. Article is presentable: yes. QPQ: yes. Hook is cited: yes. Hook is short enough: yes. Hook is interesting: not even close. Do you have anything else? DS (talk) 04:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Buidhe: I am willing to review the hook, albeit not this second (later today or tomorrow, if that's alright). In the meantime, I'd ask that you resolve the yellow-level orphan tag. Perhaps there's an article with a "Further reading" or "See also" section where linking this page would be suitable. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 09:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Hydrangeans: Please address the above.--Launchballer 03:59, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Buidhe: Article attributes, hook doesn't. If we're going to run it, the hook would need to attribute, but let's hear what other hooks you have.--Launchballer 10:03, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: which part needs to be attributed in your view? The review section does quote and attribute statements to specific reviewers to give the reader a gist of each review, but some of that (including the hook, imv) could also be written in wiki voice since it is not disputed. I've done similar hooks in the past without objection. (t · c) buidhe 02:42, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The phrase "internal contradictions", the article says "Stefan Auer writes that Kundnani "masterfully exposed" the European Union's internal contradictions."--Launchballer 11:44, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alt1 ... that the "widely debated book" Eurowhiteness argues that pro-Europeanism is a form of nationalism?
  • Alt2 ... that the "widely debated book" Eurowhiteness disputes the belief that the European Union "stands for diversity, inclusion and openness"?

User:Launchballer would either of these be OK? Thanks for reviewing! (t · c) buidhe 15:39, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced ALT1 is currently supported explicitly enough within the article itself. ALT2 is better (and I've edited the copy in the article to make it clearer). But frankly there is no need to TELL us in the hook that it is a "widely debated book". Proposing:
ALT2a: ... that Eurowhiteness disputes the belief that the European Union "stands for diversity, inclusion and openness"?
By not explicitly confirming whether or not it's a book...you've given the reader another reason to click...and as for "widely debated", the reader will find that out when they read the article. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:04, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 12

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Transgender health care misinformation

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Improved to Good Article status by Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 00:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment - a careful reading of the source shows that the main hook is not explicitly verified. The source says that misinformation has led to policy restrictions on health care for transgender people in the U.S. (instead of minors' transgender health care in the United States and United Kingdom). The source does go on to discuss bans on gender-affirming care for minors and misinformation continues to impact support for these bans, but then misinformation has been used to justify legislative restrictions is not verified, and the support is not clarified as legislative support or public support. What would be verified is that transgender health care misinformation has been used to justify legislative restrictions on transgender health care in the United States. In any case, a peer reviewed source would be better than the non-profit Kaiser Family Foundation. Also, there is a questionable sentence in the lede to clear up and stuff about Australia too. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hows ALT1 ...that transgender health care misinformation, such as the claim most pre-pubertal transgender children "desist", has been used to justify legislative restrictions on minor's transgender health care? [1] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 16:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that transgender health care misinformation has been used by authorities in the American states of Alabama, Florida and Texas to justify legislative restrictions on minors' transgender health care? [3] starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've got two issues with this ALT. 1) I think it's important to include some specific piece of misinfo 2) The scope seems way too narrow relative to the article - We have the endocrine society saying 18 states banned GAC based on misinfo in 2023[4] and the APA et al saying misinformation about ROGD was involved in many of over 100 proposed anti-trans bills in 2021 [5] - seems weird to pick out 3 states when 26 now ban care. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, ALT3 ... that due to transgender health care misinformation, over 18 states in the United States banned gender-affirming care for minors in 2023, encompassing over 30% of trans children in the country?[6] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'd like to workshop ALT1 with you because I do think having a specific example would be educational and a good hook, however, this hook is really engaging as well, better covers the scope of the issue, and with a top tier source that's also more accessible! Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: - ALT3 has a bunch of information not from the source, you really should be more careful not to go beyond what the source says. (a) Source says 18, not "over 18". (b) Source says "gender-affirming care ... even restricting transgender and gender-diverse adults’ access to care", not "gender-affirming care for minors". (c) Source is from 2023, but it doesn't say "in 2023", so maybe the bans could be in 2022 or earlier. (d) Source says "30 percent of the nation’s transgender and gender-diverse youth", not "30% of trans children". (e) Source attributes 30% figure to Human Rights Campaign, so it's not the source's own voice, but you used Wikivoice. (f) Source doesn't explicitly say that the 30% come from the 18 states, logically there could be more states that banned, maybe not from misinformation, but your "encompassing over 30%" directly links the 18 states to the 30%. Having six issues in only one sentence really does not spark confidence (is the rest of the article of the same quality?!) - and should really spark reflection on why this happened. Even more concerning that this came about after I pointed out inaccuracies in the original hook compared to the source! starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • If I were to write ALT3, I would avoid the part attributed to Human Rights Campaign ALT3A ... that due to transgender health care misinformation, 18 states in the United States had banned gender-affirming care by 2023? [7] starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • I support this one, with the addition of "for minors". Saying 18 states banned it without clarifying they mostly only affected kids is unintentionally misleading. There's also a newer statement from them that says misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized. In the United States, 24 states have enacted laws or policies barring adolescents’ access to gender-affirming care, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. In seven states, the policies also include provisions that would prevent at least some adults over age 18 from accessing gender-affirming care.[8] - While the 24 is attributed to the KFF, they are a major healthcare provider and generally reliable for healthcare laws by state I'd say. If we want, we could also use the note that 7 restricted it for adults as well. Responding to point F as it's still relevant, the position of every major medical org in America is that gender-affirming care bans are unscientific and based on misinfo - hypothesizing that some aren't goes into fringe territory. I think we could probably use 2-3 sources to make a composite hook, one from the Endocrine society saying such bans are based on misinformation, perhaps the APA one saying the same, and then a news source for the end of 2024 count of state bans (since medical societies don't update their statements's ban count each time a new one is introduced). Best, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 17:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: - I don't think your Endocrine source has made it explicit enough to support what you want it to say. We should never need to assume anything. What you are claiming to be a composite hook is simply WP:SYNTHESIS. What you want is a reliable source that explicitly says '24 states banned gender-affirming care for transgender minors based on misinformation'. Well, then go find that source. We shouldn't be doing extrapolation in our hooks or our Wikipedia articles. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:45, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • I think we could both do with a second opinion on: What you want is a reliable source that explicitly says '24 states banned gender-affirming care for transgender minors based on misinformation'. To me, per WP:MEDRS and WP:FRINGE when top tier medical orgs have the position that "policy X is based on misinformation", we don't need them to update their count of states with policy X every time a new state does it, but I could be wrong. The hook that transgender health care misinformation has caused states in the USA to ban gender-affirming care for minors[9][10][11] and in 2024 26 states had implemented such bans?[12] is an example of how that would look. If a second opinion considers that SYNTH, then I've no issues with that due to transgender health care misinformation, 18 states in the United States had banned gender-affirming care for minors and some restricted adult's access by 2023?[13]
    • Passing comment about ALT3: The "due to misinformation" language makes it sound like that's the sole cause, e.g., that plain old bigotry played no part. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist and WhatamIdoing: some rewording: How about 26 states in the United States have restricted gender-affirming care for transgender minors, with transgender health care misinformation being one factor behind such bans? starship.paint (talk / cont) 15:28, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Starship.paint: perfect! Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 22:49, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm opposed to this article running as a DYK per WP:DYKNOT (promotion of political causes). It fails WP:NPOV and frequently cites US activist opinion as though that was internationally accepted fact The lead claims "Misinformation has affected the decision of the United Kingdom to reduce use of puberty blockers for transgender individuals" something I'm sure the clinical experts at NHS England and NHS Scotland would rolls their eyes at. They might in fact have been more swayed by half a dozen systematic reviews published in a top tier medical journal.. Scotland's response to the Cass Review gives no hint at either Florida style conservative bigotry nor giving the time of day to activist bloggers or US legal drama. Readers of this sorry wiki article would be forgiven for thinking it was written by a really enthusiastic teenager who nobody had told NPOV was a core pillar, nor explained the difference between opinion and fact.
This is a field where both activist sides have indulged in misinformation. I'd expect a Wikipedia article to state that clearly and give examples of both. Actual experts admit a lack of knowledge or research or even gathering longterm data on things like outcomes and desistance and so on. Yet both activist sides claim confidently the other side is wrong and they alone have solid facts. This is an article clearly written by a US activist viewpoint. Ironically, it itself is an example of transgender misinformation.
In reality there are grownups, professionals, who run clinics and hospitals and healthcare providers, who aren't influenced by politican bigots nor by their twitter feed or bedroom bloggers. An example of their work is represented by the link I gave earlier. This is a million miles away from the kind of legal battles where facts are irrelevant being played out in US courts right now. Wikipedia should not be abused as a player in such battles. -- Colin°Talk 16:27, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • YFNS why are you writing these words as if the voluminous comments by User:Void if removed on the talk pages of trans topics, especially Cass Review, haven't put forward numerous reliable sources countering the many examples of misinformation that editors have attempted to push here. Don't act here like you've never seen a reliable source countering misinformation from US trans activists. Or that you aren't aware of any and are challenging me to find even one. Or do you think all sources that disagree with your POV are inherently unreliable. The Cass Review needed its own FAQ to counter the misinformation written about it. An MP had to apologise to the House for repeating misinformation about it.
As an example of misinformation present itself in Transgender health care misinformation is the statement "The Cass Review—a non-peer-reviewed independent evaluation of trans healthcare within NHS England". This contains the activist-trope about the Cass Review not being peer-reviewed. This is a red flag sure to make any healthcare professional roll their eyes at the silly games youngsters play online these days. I guess this sort of tripe works on gullible twitter/blog-reading people already minded to hate, but it is Trump-level argumentation that does not impress at any intellectual level. The Cass Review contains not only the two systematic reviews published by NICE but also six more systematic reviews by the York team, a two-part review of existing clinical guidelines and an international survey. These were peer reviewed and published in the most reputable journal. The issues that activists such as those involved in the Yale PDF have are with those reviews and being upset that yet again systematic reviews found a lack of evidence. Claiming the Cass Review wasn't peer reviewed is a bit like claiming a car has no engine, because it is hidden underneath the bonnet. The final report was not subject to peer review, but no other report like that ever is. So that's like complaining the manual for my computer motherboard wasn't peer reviewed. And for those who understand the strengths and limiations of peer reivew, wouldn't have changed it in any significant way if it was. This is simply hoax put about by activists to attempt to discredit the finest and most comprehensive review of youth trans healthcare yet published. And meanwhile, outside of your the activist silo, it is being accepted and implemented by professionals who are not bigots. This, on Wikipedia should be another red flag. When the serious folk get on with the job without even bothering to address activist noise, it is like when airports get on with flying people on holiday, without checking your 737 isn't dumping chemtrails across the sky. When you read either the Cass Review or NHS Scotland response we don't see Florida-conservative-politician-style anti-gender-ideology nuttery and bigotry. We don't see those professionals making claims that young people can't be trans or that gender ideology is a myth. Scotland didn't implement its plans with a bill called "Protect Our Women From Trans Idiocy and Gender Lunacy" like Trump or DeSantis would.
As I said, this article reads like a teenager wrote it as an activist pamphlet to address problems they only see from a US perspective, fighting a certain kind of US bigot and thinking the rest of the world is like that too. It doesn't belong in an international encyclopaedia that claims to use professional sources. It certainly doesn't belong on the main page. This sort of subject needs to be written by editors with a commitment to NPOV, not a commitment to The Cause. -- Colin°Talk 09:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There aren't RS in that statement of yours. VIR's volumnious comments tend to go against consensus and promote misinformation in my experience. The one piece of misinfo about the Cass Review was "it dismissed over 100 studies" (which is not misinfo about trans healthcare). The Cass Review article says The Cass Review was a non-peer-reviewed, independent service review which made policy recommendations for services offered to transgender and gender-expansive youth for gender dysphoria in the NHS - it also has Cass Review#Criticisms. Comments like Readers of this sorry wiki article would be forgiven for thinking it was written by a really enthusiastic teenager who nobody had told NPOV was a core pillar, nor explained the difference between opinion and fact. and And meanwhile, outside of your activist silo, (among others) are the kind of inflammatory language you've been warned about.[14] I would appreciate an apology / striking of comments / toning down of rhetoric and for you to save discussion of the article for its talk page. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
YFNS, I call out this article for the one-sided activist screed it is. And you are an activist single-purpose account. Throwing stones at me doesn't change that. The article demonstrates an inability to write beyond a limited world view where the righteous US activist is fighting a battle against evil US bigots. It is clear the author(s) cannot accept how healthcare decisions and clinical research could possibly come to findings that disappoint and frustrate them without being apparently stupid professionals gullibly believing misinformation. That's the premise of the article and DYK proposal: misinformation credulously believed by stupid and/or bigoted people in healthcare. It is also clear that the author(s) have no comprehension or willingness to admit that activists on their side (and editors including and like them) spread misinformation in return (including on Wikipedia). I'm more used to seeing this sort of belief that healthcare professionals are ignorant of the Big Truth coming from those who peddle herbal cancer cures or think vaccines contain microchips. Note that I don't deny that most of the misinformation described in this article is indeed misinformation. That any or all of it has actually had the influence claimed, is quite another matter. You see, YFNS, the sort of, let's call a spade a spade, shit, thrown by both sides is only actually appreciated by one's own base. Flinging that "non-peer reviewed Cass Review" line about gets nods and likes on Twitter and gets repeated by blogs and is lapped up just as readily by one tribe as some transphobic blogger misgendering some actor gets lapped up by another tribe. But doesn't impress or influence anyone else. Indeed, all it does is mark one out as clearly not engaging in a grown up intellectual discussion. A billionaire doofus claiming USAID is full of Marxists doesn't actually make any Democrat go "Oh, I didn't know it was full of Marxists". Nobody in the UK is sitting here thinking "My oh my, I didn't know the USAID was overrun with Marxists". The UK government isn't cancelling aid collaboration with the US because it is overrun by Marxists. So while that line is very much "misinformation", it hasn't got that effect. It's just a line his followers will like and which signifies which tribe he's in. It's the same with much of this misinformation. If one claims 100 studies were dismissed from the Cass Review, or if one claims there are no trans children, or if one claims the Cass Review contains evidence that desistence is extremely rare, or if one claims in ROGD, or if one claims the Cass Review was ghost written by Genspect, then one is indicating ones tribe: an activist in one camp happy to fling misinformation about for The Cause.
Cass themselves noted, the poor quality of evidence has been exploited by activists on both sides to make claims and counter claims that are unsupported. It takes a braver and more considerate writer to admit "we don't know, and we really should".
In UK and other European countries, healthcare professionals are basing their decisions on evidence based medicine, which includes systematic reviews like those published as part of the Cass Review and many others. They commission serious reports by their top health professionals. One could argue the Cass Review (for NHS England) was "peer reviewed" by the health professionals in NHS Scotland. I value their opinion far far far higher than some bedroom blogger in California. YFNS can you not spot the massive difference in tone and intellectual quality in such a report (written by a team of experts over months) vs the legal-battle PDF's and blog pieces that are your usual go-to for argument. It's like the difference between a speech by Obama and one by Trump.
The assumption of this article is that these professionals, at all levels of healthcare provision, are completely stupid or bigoted or both. If only they read a few US blogs or magazines, or perhaps this Wikipedia article, they might wake up and realise how they were duped. It is an extraordinary claim. And frankly makes one roll ones eyes. -- Colin°Talk 19:20, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest posting at WT:DYK (or even WT:GAN, since that is one cursory review!), where any valid claims about violations of WP:NPOV or WP:CIVIL will be readily confirmed.--Launchballer 07:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I took this to WP:GAR and am placing this on hold.--Launchballer 11:59, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Although WP:DYKTIMEOUT does not apply for another five days, with the article now at GAR and it looking likely that this won't be resolved anytime soon, the nomination no longer appears to have a path forward. If GA status is confirmed and any issues have been addressed, then perhaps no opposition against a renomination if the GAR results in its GA status being retained (perhaps under IAR given the circumstances since GA status retainment doesn't exactly count as promotion to GA status). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:21, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 13

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Communism in Brazil

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  • ... that due to World War 1, the recent push for industrialization had made Brazil a worker-dense country which facilitated the growth of Communism in Brazil?
  • Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by Scratchinghead (talk) and Avelludo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

☢️SCR@TCH!NGH3@D (talk) 06:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Don't call this a review, but neither of the hooks have the bolded Communism in Brazil articles and are therefore ineligible. As this is a problem with the hooks and not the articles, you can rephrase or come up with new hooks that do link to the article itself.
@Luizpuodzius and Xavier1824: 2804:14C:5BB1:9473:1019:498B:B79B:6CC8 (talk) 22:51, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that industrialisation caused by World War 1 made Brazil a worker-dense country which facilitated the growth of Communism in Brazil?
Simplifying the hook a little Lajmmoore (talk) 08:27, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Scratchinghead and Avelludo: Significant uncited content in this, which will require referencing before this can run. When you've done that, ping me and I will review this. (I'll want to trim ALT1, but I'll do that with the review.)--Launchballer 04:31, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Scratchinghead and Avelludo: Please address the above.--Launchballer 12:41, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Scratchinghead and Avelludo: I will close this in 24 hours if I don't see some action on this. Courtesy ping to @Tenpop421:, who added {{cn}} tags.--Launchballer 23:30, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: As a note, Scratchinghead (the primary nominator) hasn't edited since February. However, Avelludo is active; I've left them a talk page message. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:23, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer and Narutolovehinata5: Hi yes that's me, I've been getting the pings. I don't really have much stake in this; I'm not one to get involved in DYK or GA/FA nominations and whatnot. I was just a major contributor to the article and Scratchinghead politely credited me here. I've fixed some of the {{cn}}s on what I had previously written or contributed to, the remaining ones are from sections I didn't author. I'll try to get to them if I can. Cheers — Avelludo (Talk / Contribs / Log) 03:32, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 15

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Hayes Manufacturing Company

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  • ... that a bulldog bought two-thirds of the letter "-H-" in 1971?
  • Source: Francis, Daniel (September 1, 2012). Robertson, Pam (ed.). Trucking in British Columbia: An Illustrated History. Madeira Park, British Columbia, Canada: Harbour Publishing. p. 81. ISBN 978-1-55017-561-5.
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by CosXZ (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Cos (X + Z) 14:59, 15 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Thank you for your work on the article! The hook is certainly interesting, but IMO it doesn't provide enough context to the reader, and the article doesn't mention the letter "-H-" anywhere. Are there any other possible hooks?
QPQ: None required.

Overall: '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:12, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • @CanonNi: the "-H-" is Hayes signature hood ornament.
    For example, take a look at the bullbar.
  • But if you want, I'll give you another hook:
ALT1: ... that the Hayes Manufacturing Company were the first logging truck manufacturing company to introduce diesel engines to their trucks in 1933?

Source: Holtzman, Stan (1995). American Semi Trucks. Osceola, Wisconsin: Motorbooks International. p. 46. ISBN 978-1610605731.

-Cos (X + Z) 15:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


unpromoted per WT:DYK, needs some more workshopping on the hook, and consideration for DYKAPRIL. If we could find an image of the bus, that would be a bonus. RoySmith (talk) 15:15, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 21

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Cornelius Pass Road

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Improved to Good Article status by TheTechie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 16:36, 21 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • passing ALT1.
    The article was nom the day after promotion to GA status. Article is obvs long enough, neutral and well-sourced. The hook is cited in the article (fn 14) and well within length at only 123 chars. There are no close paraphrasing issues (names, titles and quotes throw up the usual false positives). Hook is probably interesting, as while it's just a road, it's an old road. QPQ not required, lucky you. GTG. Serial (speculates here) 19:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can a new hook be suggested? Even the reviewer said that the hook is "probably interesting". SL93 (talk) 03:22, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 ... that in 2006 of the 11,000 vehicles who used the Cornelius Pass Road daily, 1,500 were tractor-trailers?https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-oregonian-family-wants-more-than-roa/163003300/ Lajmmoore (talk) 19:16, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't find that interesting either I'm afraid. It doesn't tell me why that might be unusual.--Launchballer 09:48, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Somuk

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Example of Somuk's work
Example of Somuk's work
  • ... that the themes of Somuk's artwork (example pictured) range from the bombing of his island during World War II to the origin of trees and plants?
  • Source: (1) QAGOMA: "In Shooting allies, Somuk captures the loss of human life on Buka Island during World War Two"
(2) Nature Sciences Sociétés: "Dessin par Somuk, de Buka aux Iles Salomon, représentant l’origine des arbres et des plantes et leur relation aux généologies humaines"
Moved to mainspace by ITBF (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

I T B F 📢 23:32, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hook is good and checks out, article is well-written and doesn't have any signs of copyright violation. My only concern is that the image might not actually be PD in the US - they're certainly PD in Papua New Guinea, but I don't think they were PD early enough for Template:PD-URAA to apply. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:33, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've started a discussion on the copyright status of Somuk's artwork at Commons:Deletion requests/Artwork by Somuk (ITBF has been notified at Commons, but just in case @Generalissima: wants to participate). Concurring with Generalissima that this looks well-sourced, new enough, long enough, etc. and the QPQ is done. IMO the copyright worries are well-founded, but the hook can probably run without the image. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:12, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elon Musk salute controversy

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Created by SolxrgashiUnited (talk), Maykiwi (talk), and Crelb (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 211 past nominations.

Surtsicna (talk) 01:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment. I'm not wholesale opposed to this article running on DYK (subject to the deletion nomination), but I think the three hooks presented all have issues, mostly to do with neutrality/WP:DYKHOOKBLP. I don't think we should be running any hooks that are in the format "Living Person X is under criminal investigation", because that effectively amounts to an implication of wrongdoing and, unlike news outlets, we don't rerun a blurb if the person being investigated is absolved. ALT1 seems to be more about Musk's views on Wikipedia than the boldlinked article; the quote from Jimmy Wales is currently not even mentioned in the article, so we have an instance where the hook is actually more informative than the article it links to. I'm also biased against "meta" hooks that reference Wikipedia in general although there's no policy against it. With ALT2, I don't really see a circumstance in which someone tagging a public figure with a neurodevelopmental disorder can be presented neutrally as a hook. I T B F 📢 12:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ITBF, no hook is saying that Musk is under criminal investigation. It is not he who projected the image of his gesture. I do not see neutrality issues with ALT2 because it comes from his supporter. Surtsicna (talk) 22:51, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Proposing new hooks as not a fan of ALT2 for above reasons, nor a the sort of self-promotion in ALT1. I think these are much more neutral as a statement of fact than a personal opinion. Edit: Also adding ALT4 as another fact over negative opinion, while tying a GA into the mix.
ALT3: ... many Reddit moderators banned links to X in protest of Elon Musk's salute? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77r1p887e5o
ALT4: ... that the anti-Brexit activist group, Led By Donkeys, projected an image of Elon Musk's salute onto a Tesla Gigafactory in Berlin? Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/snl-elon-musk-michael-che-nazi-salute-b2686731.html
I disagree with you both regarding ALT1. Readers of the front page are almost certainly interested in the site and so hooks about Wikipedia inherently meet WP:DYKINT. I'd word the hook differently, however: ALT1a: ... that Elon Musk called for Wikipedia to be defunded over its coverage of a salute he made at the second inauguration of Donald Trump?--Launchballer 01:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with the above claim that all hooks about Wikipedia are automatically interesting or should be preferred. In fact, personally I believe that such a viewpoint should be discouraged. See for example WP:NAVEL which shows that referring to Wikipedia or putting emphasis on Wikipedia in content is, at the very least, controversial. Ideally, we should be avoiding references to Wikipedia in hooks whenever possible, and I don't see why this should be an exception. ALT3 especially seems like a more appropriate option in this case since it's neutral, it's not unduly focusing on Wikipedia, and it sidesteps the concerns regarding criminality. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 is boring. Concerns regarding whose criminality, Narutolovehinata5? ALT0 does not say that Musk is being investigated. Surtsicna (talk) 22:51, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how ALT3 is boring (unless your preference is one of the political hooks), and the criminality concerns weren't mine but ITBF's. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:42, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are righ, "boring" is a bit strong. I find it less interesting than the others, but if it is concise and safe. Surtsicna (talk) 14:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT5: ... that an activist group projected an image of Elon Musk's salute onto a Tesla Gigafactory with the phrase "Heil Tesla"? Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/snl-elon-musk-michael-che-nazi-salute-b2686731.html TarnishedPathtalk 13:04, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is that spicy enough without causing any of the concerns raised above? TarnishedPathtalk 13:07, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: I was just about to review this, however WP:DYKCOMPLETE demands that articles be free from "unresolved edit-warring" and this very clearly isn't. When this stabilises, ping me and I will review this.--Launchballer 09:57, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer the edit warring has now stopped due to EX protection being placed on the page after I requested it. TarnishedPathtalk 10:19, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. This is long enough and new enough and the QPQ is complete. As the title of this article uses the word "salute" instead of "gesture" this should probably be replaced in all hooks; I remain in favour of ALT1a, however ALT5 checks out and I would be willing to approve it. That said, there are a few claims cited to Business Insider, The Daily Beast, Newsweek, and The Times of India - what makes them reliable? Also, I think the "hung upside down" sentence could take a rewording per WP:CLOP.--Launchballer 11:18, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer, all wikilinks and hooks have been updated to account for the article page move. I'm not going to comment on the reliability of Business Insider, The Daily Beast, Newsweek, or The Times of India. TarnishedPathtalk 12:03, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 22

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Roger Tocotes

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Created by Serial Number 54129 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.

Serial (speculates here) 19:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough, long enough, and of excellent quality. The hook needs some polishing, though. Given that most historians do not believe that the duchess was poisoned, we should probably describe the executed servants as alleged poisoners. I like how the hook can be read as saying that the king investigated the duke for the poisoning of the duchess (despite it not saying that). Instead of "aiding and abetting" I think we should try the simple "involvement" and perhaps indicate that it was the duke who suspected/accused/persecuted him. Surtsicna (talk) 22:47, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Fortuna imperatrix mundi: Please address the above.--Launchballer 10:08, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John Stacy (alchemist)

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Created by Serial Number 54129 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.

Serial (speculates here) 19:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I ran to the talk page to see if you had nominated the article as soon as I saw it created. New, long enough, well-sourced, and brilliant. Please do try to compose a Suffolk murder hook! It is too good not to give it a shot. Take your time. Surtsicna (talk) 20:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that John Stacy predicted the death of a Duke of Suffolk?--Launchballer 18:00, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hennepin Avenue Bridge (1855)

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The original Hennepin Avenue Bridge
The original Hennepin Avenue Bridge
  • Source: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof:
"First Bridge Park". Mississippi National River & Recreation Area. U.S. National Park Service.
"Grand Celebration, of the Opening of the First Bridge that Spans the Waters of the Mississippi". Saint Paul Weekly Minnesotian. 27 January 1855. p. 2. Retrieved 21 January 2025.
"Forded River in Early Days". The Minneapolis Journal. 5 October 1913. p. 12. Retrieved 21 January 2025.
Goodrich, E. S. (26 January 1855). "Opening of the Wire Suspension Bridge Across the Mississippi". The Daily Minnesota Pioneer. p. 2.
Reicher, Matt. "Father Louis Hennepin Suspension Bridge". MNopedia. Minnesota Historical Society.
Created by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 02:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough, hook verifies from the National Park source, Earwig does indeed register 87% but as it's a compatible license properly cited and attributed I think it can pass. Everything seems cited and the article is long enough and contains the hook, and everything else seems fine for DYK. I'd rephrase the hook a bit (that's just me though, it works as is) but I do think the hook itself is interesting. Good to go! Departure– (talk) 18:27, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Departure–, Thanks! And I'd open to hearing any hook rephrase suggestions. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:29, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Darth Stabro: I was specifically thinking "...that the first bridge over the Mississippi River was the Hennepin Avenue Bridge in Minneapolis?" What are your thoughts on this? Departure– (talk) 21:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
sure, Departure– - throw in a picture, and we have ALT1: "...that the first bridge over the Mississippi River was the Hennepin Avenue Bridge (pictured) in Minneapolis?" ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 23:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Adjusted. I think most people would be interested in the first bridge over the most important river in the English-speaking world was, so it doesn't need to embellish facts or focus on anything else because it's independently interesting. Departure– (talk) 13:37, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pulled per WT:DYK discussion. RoySmith (talk) 15:16, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • To follow up, it appears that there may not be at least 1500 original prose characters in the article, as required by WP:DYKLEN; the bulk of the article appears copied from MNopedia, and while such copying from public domain and such sources is allowed, nothing copied can count toward the 1500 prose character requirement. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:04, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just to head off possible confusion, there's two distinct DYK submissions, about two different bridges:


Articles created/expanded on January 23

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David Szymanski

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  • Comment: User:Sebbog13 created the original Draft article. After it was deleted, User:Ktkvtsh recreated the Draft and moved it to mainspace. User:Queen of Hearts then copied the exact text over from the original Draft into the article that Ktkvtsh created.
Created by Sebbog13 (talk), Ktkvtsh (talk), and Di (they-them) (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Sebbog13 (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Sebbog13, Ktkvtsh, and Queen of Hearts: Lots to whinge about here I'm afraid. For starters, the draft version of this article contains considerable content from @Di (they-them):, so I have added them to the nominaton. This article is very clearly a stub (the article comprises no information about him, only his works and comments) and after copyediting this and removing the various IPA templates and the Primary sources disclaimer (one causes WP:DYKcheck to glitch, the other clearly isn't prose), this comes in at well below 1,500 characters and I don't review articles that short per WP:DYKLEN. When you have added add some more information about Szymanski, I will review this.--Launchballer 15:23, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the current form of the article contains 0% of what I originally wrote in the article I published. Ktkvtsh (talk) 17:16, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the article, it seems Queen of Hearts overwrote the article when she moved the draft over. I reinstated the two sentences lost in the shuffle.--Launchballer 17:25, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. Ktkvtsh (talk) 18:15, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 24

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Dale Carson

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Jacksonville Sheriff Dale Carson
Jacksonville Sheriff Dale Carson
  • Source: "Dale took those two agencies and created a masterpiece, the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. He was exactly the right man for the job. He did not tolerate any type of misconduct or corruption."
Created by Mgreason (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.

Mgrē@sŏn (Talk) 17:59, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Mgreason: This article has a few citation needed tags and a section entirely without citations. That will need to be fixed before the article runs on DYK. Also, FWIW, neither of these hooks are very interesting. Maybe there's a hook focusing on the difference between him and his no-good, gambling predecessor? Tenpop421 (talk) 13:51, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Wills (record label founder)

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Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 21:33, 24 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The only issue I can see is the hook's interesting-ness is debatable, and might not appeal to a wide audience. I found it pretty interesting as someone not familiar with the anything related to this person, so am passing this. jolielover♥talk 07:46, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Jolielover about the hook's interestingness. A new hook is needed. SL93 (talk) 19:43, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not the nom, but I'd be inclined to go with something about him learning management from his father who worked on nuclear warning systems, the music/nukes contrast is fun. Rusalkii (talk) 01:52, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all, I'll come back with a new suggestion soon! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:09, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 25

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Grace Beyer

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Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 372 past nominations.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:50, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1... that NAIA career scoring record-holder Grace Beyer scored at least 29 points in all four games against NCAA Division I opponents?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:43, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2... that NAIA career scoring record-holder Grace Beyer holds several school records for assists?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:44, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - n
  • Interesting: No - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Recent enough, cited, with no plagiarism as far as I can see. My concerns are regarding the hooks themselves. They are too wordy and do not appear to be supported by the listed source. In fact, the listed source says that Beyer has 276 more points than Clark, not ten. However, speaking as someone who doesn't watch basketball, these hooks don't spark any interest in me. I don't care that one person performed better than another person, especially in basketball. I did notice an achievement that might spark immediate interest. Assuming this hasn't since become outdated, the hook could be something like, using the ESPN as a source:

Hi @TonyTheTiger: please include a citation which verifies the hook fact (Clark's score and Beyer's score) and not just part of it (Beyer's score). Lazman321 acted in good faith by going by your citation. Beyer's score is verified here and Clark's score here, which verify the hook by WP:CALC. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I agree that the Clark hook is the more interesting one. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Following the sentene "Clark finished her career with 3,951 points, ten shy of Beyer," these two citations are present. 55 and 56.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Even as a person interested in basketball, from a country where basketball is a religion, and who knows who Caitlin Clark is, the hook is frankly not going to see much appeal outside of North America I think. Unless you know who Clark is, the hook doesn't really sound all that interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:05, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is Caitlin Clark not known outside North America?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:54, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She's not an international star on par with someone like LeBron James, the Williams sister, or Lionel Messi. It's not to downplay her accomplishments in the world of basketball, but internationally she isn't a household name like the others mentioned. Unless a foreigner is well-versed into sports, they're at best most likely to have only passing knowledge of Clark and not really know who she is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:41, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Museum Music

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Moved to mainspace by CarbonLollipop (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

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  • The article is new enough and long enough. It is adequately sourced and I did not find any close paraphrasing. As this is the nominator's first nomination, no QPQ is required. The hook is interesting and cited inline, and it is also verified in the source. My only concern is that it mentions Skeletrix by name despite not having an article yet; DYK regulars often encourage not mentioning article-less people by name in hooks. Either revise the hook to remove the mention of his name, or create an article for him so he can be linked (I see he is technically a blue link, although right now Edward Skeletrix is a redirect to Museum Music). If you can make his article meet the requirements, the hook would definitely work as a double hook. Good luck! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:12, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: thanks for the review. I've started an article at Edward Skeletrix; can it be boldlinked in the hook? CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 05:10, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If he meets the requirements, then yes he can. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@CarbonLollipop and Narutolovehinata5: I've updated the nom. ALT1: ... that to promote his album Museum Music, Edward Skeletrix held an exhibition during which he sat inside a glass box?--Launchballer 04:43, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewing Edward's article. The article was properly created on February 10 but was not bolded until February 19. While technically this would mean that the article was ineligible for DYK at the time of bolding, per WP:DYKNEW an extension can be granted based on the circumstances. In addition, the article was created in response to the discussion here, so maybe we can agree to IAR in this case. Otherwise, the article meets requirements: it is new enough, long enough, adequately sourced. It might be a good idea to mention the glass box aspect in the article too just to make sure the hook fact is verifiable across both articles. Still no QPQ is needed as this is the nom's first nomination and Edward would be just their second DYK credit. My main concern is that the entire Singles section is cited to Spotify, which isn't exactly ideal, although I can accept that if no other independent sources can be found. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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More than Life (Machine Gun Kelly song)

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Locust member (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Jake Brown (footballer)

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Created by Kingsif (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 133 past nominations.

Kingsif (talk) 03:45, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: AGF on Telegraph source for one of the quotes in main article. QPQ has already been cashed in, in 2021 - please provide alternative QPQ. Hook part about playing for mainstream club is fine but no mention in sources or your article of the 75 games played. C679 08:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Cloudz679: There isn't a written source that says "played 75 games", but there is a source with his career statistics, which are mentioned in the article... I don't put sources in noms so reviewers actually read the article and click the links. And FWIW, the QPQ has not been used (there were multiple reviewers there, someone else might have). Kingsif (talk) 15:22, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Kingsif: Not sure if that was an intentional dig, I saw the stats before but was limited to the 2015–16 season. Managed to find the 'All seasons' button to switch views. According to that, it's 2 appearances for Askam United and 73 for Askam United Reserves - the infobox currently says 65 for the firsts. I reckon if it's only 2 for the A-team the hook should be adjusted as otherwise misleading.C679 18:20, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Cloudz679: What would you suggest? Askam Reserves are the players that stayed in the Furness league when the team got promoted, it looks like, but obviously details on why lower leagues register a reserve side in the main pyramid are hard to come by. Kingsif (talk) 22:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. ALT2 is stronger but then the infobox within the article should be updated accordingly (so that it adds up to 75). Fine to list both Askam United and Askam United Reviews separately if needed. Cielquiparle (talk) 17:23, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kingsif: Thanks for the clarification. I clearly see how the cited source gets us to 65 league games and 8 cup games. Can we add a citation verifying the two 2 "other" competitions? Cielquiparle (talk) 02:40, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Same source? Kingsif (talk) 03:23, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kingsif: I'm just not seeing it. I see 2 listed in the "Goals" column. But aren't those a subset of the other competitions where he either started or was a substitute? Cielquiparle (talk) 05:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cielquiparle: That view (Breakdown - League/Cup) is how to look at it. It actually seems like the two "other" were for Askam United in 2015/16. You'll see next to the number of matches started or bench used, there's what looks like a fraction. In this fraction, the number on top is league games, and the number below is FA Cup games. So where in 2015/16 it has as started "2 (0/0)", that means the two games started were for neither the league or the FA Cup. We could go through the match reports of all Askam's games that season to individually source, but IMHO these overall stat pages (though they have recently become worse) are generally intuitive enough for understanding. Kingsif (talk) 00:30, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Striking ALT2 as it was 65 not 75 games in the league system.
Familiar enough with the English football league system? Oh I think that I am. Have restored the content you wiped. C679 05:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You literally struck a hook, reverting that is not me wiping content. As I explained if you paid attention, league *system* includes the FA Cup - but sure, remove those games from the total if you're so familiar. Kingsif (talk) 05:22, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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1996 North Carolina Secretary of State election

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CaramelizedMargaritaLime (talk) 07:41, 27 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • First off, nice job creating that article! There are two primary concerns I have right now: 1.) "legendary" is PUFFERY, 2.) the traffic incident section's second paragraph is fluff. Both issues can be resolved with a few well-executed excisions. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Yours is actually better. Daniel Case (talk) 05:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to promote this DYK but realized that I had misunderstood which hook Pbritti was referring to as "extremely funny". So I am striking ALT0 and reformatting ALT1 here now for a future promoter.
@CaramelizedMargaritaLime: A DYK admin has raised concerns about the lack of prose in the "Results" section of the article here:Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Prep_6 Could you take a look and try to address? Cielquiparle (talk) 21:44, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@CaramelizedMargaritaLime: Please address the above.--Launchballer 13:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cielquiparle: Apologies for not addressing sooner! I could not find any analysis of the results to cite so I did the best with what I had. CaramelizedMargaritaLime (talk) 11:46, 04 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Aliko Dangote

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Dangote in 2014
5x expanded by SafariScribe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is an engaging biographical piece. The article is free from any copyright issues, and all sections are properly referenced. The hook is included, and the source aligns with the details provided in the nomination. Image properly licensed including the ones featured in the article. Everything appears to be in order. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 12:39, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SafariScribe and Toadboy123: There is one citation tag in the article that needs to be resolved before the article can be featured on the main page. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:59, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cielquiparle DoneSafari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:32, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SafariScribe and Toadboy123: We need a different hook. The "first" hooks are generally frowned upon at DYK and come under extra scrutiny and could easily be taken down mid-way through their run on the main page if they are contested (if they even make it that far in the process). In this case it's not too hard to find another Nigerian who is often called the first black billionaire in Africa, namely Louis Odumegwu Ojukwu. See for example this Forbes Africa article; there are many other articles that say similar. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:34, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. @SafariScribe: Not according to List of Africans by net worth. (You forgot to sign your new proposed hook.) Cielquiparle (talk) 05:28, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still needs a new hook, or some work to prove that the claim in ALT1 above is true. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:08, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is contradicted by this BBC article: SA billionaire overtakes Dangote as Africa’s richest man Rjjiii (talk) 00:46, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Zeinab Shaath

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  • ... that Palestinian singer Zeinab Shaath assumed a short film featuring her had been destroyed by the Israeli Defense Force, until a researcher discovered a copy in the IDF archive?
Created by Iostn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Iostn (talk) 23:13, 5 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Iostn: Article new enough (Jan 30), long enough (4200 B), no copyvio (Earwig says 20.0%, but mostly proper nouns). Hook interesting and verified in source. The sourcing is mostly good—I'll note that In These Times and Matzpen are biased sources, but this article cites them for neutral, biographical information, which is okay. Those aside, I see one issue with the sourcing: can you explain why Grimy Goods, which describes itself as a blog, is a reliable source? — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 20:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Grimy Goods appears to be professional and well-established, but if needs be, I could probably replace that source quite easily Iostn (talk) 09:18, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Iostn: I'd do that, since I can't find any evidence that it has an editor.--Launchballer 13:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Prohibited political parties in Germany

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Chetsford (talk) 19:07, 31 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article created within past week, appropriate size. Both hooks are interesting, particularly ALT-1. Article seems reliable for lead hook, and, I see no issues with plagiarism with any hooks. Earwig score on page as a whole is mostly from long titles of subjects mentioned in sources. QPQ forthcoming. I don't see a source given above for ALT-1, as the given source seems only to account for the main hook. Both hooks of appropriate length. Lbal (talk) 23:33, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Lbal:. I've added the QPQ. For the Alt 1, references are:[1][2][3]. Chetsford (talk) 03:50, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ "Effort to Ban Far-Right NPD More Unlikely than Ever". A previous bid to ban the NPD failed in 2003 when the Federal Constitutional Court threw out the case. The intelligence services, the court argued, had informants in the party's leadership, which meant that government agents were helping to shape the NPD's policies. That made it impossible to consider the case.
  2. ^ "THE SECOND ATTEMPT AT A THIRD SUCCESSFUL BAN OF AN ESTABLISHED GERMAN POLITICAL PARTY" (PDF). In 2003, the Court denied the application because it was discovered that the Office for the Protection of the Constitution, a high level governmental agency, had infiltrated the NPD and achieved executive status in the party. According to the government, the informants were only supposed to observe the party's actions and gather information to report back to investigating officials. The agents, however, reached leadership positions within the NPD, thereby placing themselves in a position to create evidence against the party by facilitating illegal acts. Judges were skeptical to grant the application because they feared that government spies had reached high levels in the organization in a deliberate attempt to create an exaggerated extremist image of the party. Judges were wary to attempt to distinguish NPD actions from those of undercover government informants.
  3. ^ "Secret Files Build Case for Banning Far-Right Party". But the state has already failed once on this front. In 2003, the Federal Constitutional Court rejected an attempt to ban the NPD because the Office for the Protection of the Constitution had infiltrated the party with too many informants. The court argued that it was possible that the party's policies had partly been shaped by the state. Right-wing extremists rejoiced in the victory.

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Baggu

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  • ... that Baggu reusable shopping bags inspire "mass adoration" in "New York, and far beyond"?
  • Source: "While mass adoration for the brand, in New York and far beyond, may have spawned from aestheticizing a simple grocery tool, the Baggu Small Nylon Crescent Bag has become yet another sought-after way to fashionably schlep from one place to the next. But Baggu isn’t the only brand playing in this category."
NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk), Heartleafphilodendron (talk), and Coooohen (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 163 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 20:31, 12 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Review requested. Viriditas (talk) 02:41, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article was moved to mainspace on 3 February, which is just in the 7 days + a day or two limit of WP:DYKNEW. Article long enough and well-sourced. QPQ done. The hook is not very interesting, and and reads as quite WP:PROMOTIONAL to me. @Thriley: did you have any other hooks in mind? Tenpop421 (talk) 13:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Tenpop421: I agree that the hook is too promotional. I've tried pinging Thriley earlier, and they appear to be busy and mobile only. I would like to offer a new hook:
      • ALT1 ... that Baggu reusable shopping bags are so popular with collectors that it could undermine its sustainability mission?
      • @Viriditas: thanks for taking this DYK on! (BTW the ping doesn't work if you forget to sign your comment). I think this hook could work, but I would want to rephrase it so we're not stating it in wp:wikivoice (i.e., attribute this as tension that "some commentators" have pointed to). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 22:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Tenpop421: Understood. I would like to construct a hook without the need for attribution, mostly due to length concerns. I can do this if I move on to a new hook, but I'm wondering if this one can be salvaged with some minor changes. I'm trying to show the contradiction or paradox between having a successful product with a focus on eco-friendly reusability so that you can use less disposable bags, and collectors (fashion hoarders) who ignore the sustainability mission and focus on overconsumption. Viriditas (talk) 22:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • @Viriditas: the more I think about it the more I'm not sure. I don't want to give the impression that DYK is saying "hey, this product is sustainable and everyone wants one". Tenpop421 (talk) 22:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
            • @Tenpop421: No worries. I will try one more in this vein, and if you don't like it, I will change my strategy and come up with a different one:
              • ALT2... that the sustainability of the Baggu reusable bag is challenged by collector culture?
                • Source:Cohn, Lauren (September 16, 2023). "The Overconsumption Problem of Collector Culture". L'Officiel. Retrieved February 26, 2025. Quote: "...Baggu remains a reusable brand, dedicated to creating the perfect bag to reduce waste when it comes to shopping. Their sustainability efforts directly counter what happens on the consumer end of their products, as people collect more and more and over-consume bags meant to be solitary in their use."
  • Viriditas, thank you very much for the expansion. I liked your initial hook. Perhaps just a bit hookier: ALT3 ... that Baggu reusable shopping bags are so popular with collectors that it could undermine its sustainability mission? Thriley (talk) 23:06, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • You ALT3 is indeed an improvement. Tenpop421 has reservations that it could still be somewhat indirectly and unintentionally promotional, and I understand their POV, which is why I tried to reframe it in ALT2 by leaving out the popularity bit. It's a bit tricky. Can you reformulate ALT3 without the popularity angle? I think some people will see this as a sneaky argumentum ad populum driving interest in the brand, which I think is what Tenpop421 was getting at. I realize it's not, of course, but it could be perceived that way. Viriditas (talk) 23:18, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • So far, I think ALT2 is the one I'm leaning towards. It's interesting without being promotional, and any flaws can always be worked out at the prep stage. I can verify that ALT2 is cited, the citation checks out, and it is in the article. Happy to give the good to go if @Viriditas: @Thriley: have no qualms. Tenpop421 (talk) 23:30, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Phedimus spurius

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Surtsicna (talk) 17:22, 3 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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Oh, it's just a play on the word "Caucasian" being used to refer to White people. The stonecrop is Caucasian, but not always white 😁 I fall back on those when I can find nothing else that might attract an average reader. Surtsicna (talk) 16:58, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: I suspected that might have been the case, but my brain usually connects words like Caucasian in plant names to geography and not to human ethnicity. How about a hook based on the flower frequency of white vrs red forms?--Kevmin § 15:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kevmin: I try to see hooks from an average reader's perspective, and I presume that an average reader would think of ethnicity first. I cannot think of a form hook that would appeal to a general audience. If you can, please let me know. Surtsicna (talk) 17:26, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: How about Alt1 ... that the whiter the flower, the fewer flowers Caucasian stonecrop often has?--Kevmin § 17:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kevmin: There are a few problems with ALT1, and the biggest is that it is not what the article says ("generally less floriferous"). Surtsicna (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is what the article says though, you wrote in the article White-flowered varieties of P. spurius are generally less floriferous (floriferous=bearing flowers. especially : blooming freely -Per Merriam Webster) To the reader, this fully implies that darker pink-red flowered specimens will typically produce MORE flowers, as there has to be a more for there to be a less floriferous White in the first place. Does the source itself say different, and if so, what wording should be at the article and why does your prose state otherwise?--Kevmin § 19:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Generally less floriferous". ALT1 makes it absolute. It also grades whiteness, which the article does not. Surtsicna (talk) 19:38, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: And I updated the kook with the adjective often to match the generally in the source statement. Its pretty clear from the myriad image of the species that the flower colors grade between white and red.--Kevmin § 21:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not want to draw conclusions from images, Kevmin. We have sources. The source says that "the white-flowered forms are less floriferous" than the pink-purple forms. It does not say that pure white-flowered forms are less floriferous than off white-flowered, etc. Surtsicna (talk) 21:46, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So you agree that the source does indeed support the intent of the proposed alternate hook. What exact wording would you use for a under 200 character hook that is based off the source text. As it stands I do not feel Alt0 is a workable hook given the very tenuous connection between Caucasian and white flowers.--Kevmin § 16:35, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Surtsicna I am still waiting to here how you would word a hook based on this fact. I do not feel Alt0 is ideal, but to move the nomination along will remove my opposition to it.--Kevmin § 19:18, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sadna Qasai Mosque

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AmateurHi$torian (talk) 11:38, 3 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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Sal Maida

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  • ... that bassist Sal Maida (pictured) "may not have a Wikipedia page" but is "one of the coolest 70s rock stars you've never heard of"?
  • Source: "Sal Maida is One of the Coolest 70s Rock Stars You’ve Never Heard Of. He may not have a Wikipedia page but as a member of the groundbreaking Roxy Music and Sparks, to his work in New York power pop band Milk ‘n Cookies, Sal Maida is one of the most interesting figures of the 70s rock and glam scenes." Vice
Created by Thriley (talk) and RonaldH (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 162 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 17:32, 10 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Please propose an ALT hook – surely a better one is possible? "May not have a Wikipedia page" cannot be quoted out of context like that in a hook – it's also misleading (since it's no longer true) and leaning too hard into the someone "you've never heard of" angle reads like an invitation to nominate for AfD. Cielquiparle (talk) 16:21, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't seem to be as hooky as ALT1. Working at a record store and then becoming the bassist of a band like Roxy Music is the cinematic dream of many a record store clerk. Would really like to see it on the front page. Thriley (talk) 15:52, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thriley: Yes, I don't think it's a bad hook at all. Just a tad wordy. I was going to ask you to tweak but here is one try:


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Luka Dončić–Anthony Davis trade

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  • Source: Mavericks fans widely panned the trade. After the news broke, a group of fans gathered outside of the American Airlines Center to protest the trade; some fans called for Harrison to be fired, and others brought a coffin to stage a mock funeral.[1]
Moved to mainspace by Goatsep (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Left guide (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ Thompson, Scott (February 3, 2025). "Disgruntled Mavericks fans protest Luka Doncic trade with symbolic funeral outside team's arena". foxnews.com.
  2. ^ McMenamin, Dave (February 2, 2025). "Luka to Lakers, Davis to Mavs in stunning trade". ESPN.com. Archived from the original on February 5, 2025. Retrieved February 5, 2025.

Barbara Kurdej-Szatan

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Created by Artemis Andromeda (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Artemis Andromeda (talk) 16:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Alt1: ... that this actress became famous from appearing in mobile phone commercials? Artemis Andromeda (talk) 11:58, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough

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QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Earwig shows no issues in English, but this is taken on good faith since it is translated from the Polish language. I was unable to complete multiple spot checks and verification due to different reasons. In one case, the links were bad. When I tried to fix them (Encyclopedia of Polish Theatre as only one example), I could not track them down to complete the spot check. Some of the content has borderline BLP issues, such as the claims about the border crisis and Lyme disease. I could not track down the claim for the latter, and it is entirely unclear if the subject was treated for Lyme disease, at which point it refers to something in the past and the date needs to be mentioned, or if she still has symptoms, in which case it needs to be modified to say that she has prolonged symptoms from Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome. (PTLDS). This is only one of many issues. I could not verify the hooks, even though I was able to read the links in translation. From what I can tell, she was notable before the mobile advertising campaign based on what I read, so the idea of what "famous" means is somewhat ambiguous. I think it's safe to assume that the mobile campaign increased her exposure, so it's not a stretch to say that's what made her famous, but I didn't see that in the sources; maybe I missed it. Finally, there's the overall issue of WP:DYKCOMPLETE in the general sense. There's still grammar issues that need to be resolved, and even though you have a current image in the infobox, it's a terrible image of the subject (mic covering her lower face, strained look) and there are dozens of great images of her, although they are much older, on Commons. Some of what I've written here might be incorrect or mistaken, and I acknowledge that, but some of it is also easy to substantiate. Given all these issues, I would suggest the nominator take a moment to address them and try to cleanup the article. Viriditas (talk) 21:13, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you for the insights. And to answer to a few of your points. About the links, I think Encyklopedia teatru works fine now, I will later go and chceck if the rest are ok. About the lyme disease, I will admit that I simply don't have much of medical knowledge and don't usually know what to write about such topics, and I just really copied what Polish article said. I found a few articles talking about it (1, 2, 3. She suffered it in 2016 (and maybe in 2017 as well?), and it seems that it's mentioned in media, because she talked about her experience, and also becouse it seems she was a victim of medical malpractice (physician using wrong method criticised by medical experts, and in general making mistakes in her diagnosis and treatment). I actually wonder if I should just remove it, or actually expand it, and maybe mention all the stuff about issues with treatment. I thought the sources said that she is famous becouse of this comercials. I might go and look for additional sources about this specific topic later. But to kinda explain it, while I think article makes her look more famous in retrospect by just writing down all the stuff she did up to that point, she wasn't actually famous back then, and was mostly juat a regular person still trying to 'break out' as I think saying goes. For example, while I listed a few to shows she appeared in, it were mostly just background roles, sometimes with small dialogue. She, at least in my opinion, indeed became famous and recognizable nation-wide thanks to those comercials, since they were a huge success overall. I would even argue, that's what really propelled her career. Also, and this is just my personal opinion, I still think she's mostly still known primarily from those comercials to an average viewer. Also, about the picture, I personally thought she looked nice in the one currently used in the infobox. But I could change it to an older picture, though I think it was less flattering (idk if that matters to be honest though). Sincerely, Artemis Andromeda (talk) 22:31, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind if you leave the current image. This could be a cultural difference. In my culture that kind of image may be perceived differently. I've read elsewhere that photos of people in Eastern Europe that show them looking serious without a smile are preferred. As for Lyme disease, the article says she has it. But you say she has been treated for it, and if so, maybe expand upon it. Celebrities can often do a lot to bring attention to public health issues, so there is educational value there for the reader. It's also the case that climate change and other factors are increasing the prevalence of the disease around the world, so it's a timely issue. Comparing this version to the Polish wiki, I find that the hook is supposedly cited to Jak to się stało?, an interview between Bober and Kurdej-Szatan. However, you have it listed as published in 2021, when it was published in 2022. Perhaps the interview took place in 2021. Also, this is listed by EAN 978-83-96-1010-2-0. There's still issues with the article. I notice that Polish wiki also uses a better image in the infobox, which is current. Viriditas (talk) 01:01, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Artemis Andromeda: I see you have been very active on wiki but have abandoned this review. Do you believe the hook and current version of the article (which you have not edited in response to my concerns) are ready to go? Can you verify that the hook is appropriately sourced? I don't see how any outstanding issues have been resolved. Viriditas (talk) 03:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Artemis Andromeda: As I said before, the article on the Polish Wikipedia is in good shape. All you would need to do is cross-reference the material and make sure it is cited and accurate. And make the changes we discussed. I don’t think it would take you more than 30 minutes. And add a source to the hook that supports it. Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese Girls Never Die

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5x expanded by Miminity (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:40, 5 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: No issues with eligibility, hook is fine and sourced even if it's not the most interesting. The double digit percentages on Earwig are from review quotes/proper nouns. The film has been released, so the premise section should be a fully-fledged plot section. There are also multiple grammatical errors in the article, including run-on sentences. The flow of the article is also pretty bad (e.g. 12/19 of the non-lead/plot/cast sentences begin with "The film" or slight variations such as "The film's", with 4/7 of the remainder being about reviews that all go "X of Y said Z". Release and marketing are both short and should probably be combined in some way per MOS:FILM. There are serious, but not insurmountable presentation issues that need to be addressed before approval. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some preliminary cleanup work. Also, in the hook, "on" should probably be replaced by "of".
@Patar knight: Thanks for reviewing, I fix some of the issues you pointed out, tell me if there's more, also, I'm slighly confused with story's phasing, so It hard to make a plot summary but I'll try my best. Also, your suggested hook is much better. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 00:19, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just ping me when the plot summary is written and I'll take another look. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight:, I had written the plot. I don't know how to write one so this might be a sloppy one and I hope you can help me fix it. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For one, it's more than 700 words, which is the limit recommended at MOS:FILMPLOT. It should use the narrative present tense (WP:PLOTPRESENT). There's so many tense flips here, I'm not sure what the narrative format of this film even is, and without watching the film, can't really fix the issues. I would recommend reviewing the two pages I linked and rewriting the plot summary. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight: I done what you are talking about and lower the word count to around 670. Also, as the movie, switches between two people. I retain some of the past tense when character is talking about what happen in the past. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The plot section (or rather, plot paragraph!) is still very poor with lots of typos (e.g. Masabu/Manabu? Haruka?) and grammatical mistakes and what seem like many prima facie irrelevant details (e.g. exact salaries, exact punishment for vandalism) while lots of essential details are omitted, including but not limited to:
  • What job does Haruko have?
  • What exactly is Yukio's relationship to the other characters?
  • What Yukio's gender is (only revealed after the third namedrop)?
  • Why should Aina and Yukio remember Manabu from just seeing him?
  • How much time is passing between events? Does the film take place over two days or more?
  • Why does Haroko have a missing person poster?
  • Was Aina using a fake identity?
From what I can tell the movie seems to follow two main characters (Haruko and Aina) in a linear manner and there is some sort of reveal about the missing posters at the end, which is not explained very well Having multiple protagonists/storylines is a very common feature of movies, so perhaps you can take a look at a film that you have seen from Wikipedia:Featured_articles#Films and see how their plot section is written and try to emulate it here. Given that the plot section is in this state, it is probably necessary to have brief descriptions of the characters in the Cast section as well, which would alleviate some of the issues. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:08, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight: Sorry for the late reply, the movie does not seems state how much time has passed each scene, as even the reviews by users on Eiga.com talks about how confusing the story is. There is a lot of details was missing in the movie. this is the pirated version of the movie on dailymotion (I don't think there is a english platform where this can watched legally) if you want to watch it for yourself.

I don't think I can answer most of the questions above, but I have fixed most of the issues I can fixed. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight: The prep set for International Women's Day is now open, please return to this nomination when you can.--Launchballer 13:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I took a brief look at the pirated film version to try and get a grasp on the plot. It seems pretty clear that the two main plotlines are (mostly?) happening at different times since Haruko is obviously not missing yet in her scenes while the Aina plotline resolves around creating art around Haruko's missing poster (which has a 2015 date) until apparently near the end, when Haruko shows up with a child. I would suggest the plot be rewritten in a way similar to The Godfather Part II which also follows two different timelines. Also, since we have access to the film credits, a fuller cast section can be written in accordance with MOS:FILMCAST (e.g. multiple roles currently described in the plot do not have listed actors in the cast section, and one actor in that section has a role not named in the plot). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight: I don't know if it helps, but I had a go at reordering the Plot section myself. I got hold of a cast list from Themoviedb and added it as an invisible comment - @Miminity:, I don't speak Japanese, so please verify it and publish it.--Launchballer 07:45, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Thanks for the help, Yes it is true base (though I tweak a little bit) on this Eiga.com Source, though do I have to source it or leave it as it is. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That depends. If you got it from the film, you can leave it unsourced; if you got it from somewhere else, you really should cite that. Ball's in Patar knight's court.--Launchballer 13:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer:  Done Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight: There is a date request for the next set to be queued. What else needs to be done here?--Launchballer 16:24, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm willing to AGF that the credits are correct, but the plot summary is still a mess with no delineation between the two timelines. Last week, I suggested following the format of The Godfather Part II, which still has not been done. That article has a short out of universe blurb at the top to introduce the two timelines, a subsection for the past with Vito Corleone and followed by a subsection for the present with Michael Corleone, and then a short bit at the end where they include the ending flashback, which for this would probably just be the ending where they apparently tie up the timelines. Another example of this plot summary structure is Memento, which also separates out the two different timelines until the unifying ending segment. I would rather not have to watch an 1h40m film myself as the reviewer, so I would prefer if the original nominator did that. If there's major push to get a special queue for International Women's Day (right now there's only one entry in the holding area), I can see if I have time later this week (please ping me if that's the case). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:26, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The set I had in mind is currently in queue 7, but it may have to go back. I added a couple of section headers and an introductory sentence.--Launchballer 20:51, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now prep 3, but I also added a short "Ending" subsection, so this should be done.--Launchballer 12:40, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For context, I watched the first 15 min. to get a grasp of the film. The film actually opens with a montage and the scene with the mother seemed very unimportant, which appears to be correct given that she's not mentioned again in the plot summary. The description of Haruko going to Yuji's place for the first time is entirely overly detailed (he waits for her outside and lets her in, which is the actual focus of the scene) There are still all kinds of grammatical mistakes and unexplained characters (e.g. "A man told him that Hitomi" has an unexplained man and "him" should probably be "her"?). I don't have a lot of confidence in the fidelity of the plot. I'll make some changes based on what I watched, but I'm not sure its read for DYK. It also looks like queues are not being switched to doubles, so perhaps this can wait? -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:41, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Made some fixes based on the first 15 min and did my best to copyedit some of the remaining plot section based on the reviews I read and what I did watch. It is still not up to par, with highly confusing statements such as Manabu is found in a car by a police beaten up; Yukio and Aina argue in the car about whether they are why. What are they arguing about? Were Yukio and Aina not found by police even though they are ostensibly in the same car? -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:17, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2023 Selma tornado

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  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shirley A. Pomponi
  • Comment: Will do QPQ tomorrow, as it's getting relatively late over here. Feel free to reword hook. I wass initially going to go with "...that a historic tornado caused historic damage in a historic town?" but sadly couldn't find refs to back up the "historic tornado" part.
Created by EF5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

EF5 00:44, 6 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Eight days? That's out of the window of a week and I don't see any connection beyond that in the source, beyond it happening "ahead of" the holiday. Can you find any other sources further connecting these events? Departure– (talk) 00:52, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Departure–: Not sure what you mean; Selma was a prominent civil rights town that MLK frequented. But alas, sure: An MLK Day Reflection In The Aftermath Of Selma’s EF2 Tornado, Residents in Selma, Ala., commemorate MLK day while recovering from tornadoes and Tornadoes rattle historic civil rights community of Selma, Alabama. Take your pick. :) EF5 00:56, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@EF5: Alright, #1 is from a Forbes contributor (generally unreliable) and #3 doesn't connect much, but I do think that you can get a good hook from #2:

...that a 2023 tornado in Selma, Alabama that struck days before Martin Luther King day was described as bringing together the historically racially divided community that had been at the heart of the Civil Rights movement?

This goes over the prose limit for DYK, but if you approve of a hook in the same manner as this, we can get this condensed. Departure– (talk) 01:12, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, that sounds great. EF5 01:15, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Departure–: Are you still reviewing? EF5 17:47, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@EF5: Yes, but I'm waiting for you to finish your QPQ. Finish that up and I'll go on with my review. Departure– (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Finished. EF5 17:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@EF5: Other than that, the article is new enough, QPQ now done, long enough and seems neutral and well-sourced. The fact just needs to be put in the article. If you're using the one I suggested, it's the PBS source that I took it from. I can condense it down to:

... that Selma, a racially divided community and the origin of the Civil Rights era marches to Montgomery, was described as being brought together by a 2023 tornado that stuck days before MLK day?

Barring any objection, we can go with this. Departure– (talk) 18:11, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added. :) EF5 18:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@EF5: Well, by adding it to the article, I didn't exactly mean copy and pasting the hook into there. It still needs attribution to who said it, and it should be cleaned up a bit in general. Departure– (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think I've fixed it, but please tell me if I'm wrong. EF5 18:32, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seems fine, but forgive me for not checking before, but there were three marches. It's marches, plural. Change it there and then we'll be good to go. Departure– (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. EF5 18:37, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here's your checkmark: good to go, on the hook ... that Selma, a racially divided community and the origin of the Civil Rights era marches to Montgomery, was described as being brought together by a 2023 tornado that stuck days before MLK day?
@EF5 and Departure–: In the article "brought together" is in quotes, but I don't see that phrase in the cited article. Also, how is the article describing the tornado as bringing the town together? Rjjiii (talk) 00:59, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 6

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Ana María Iriarte

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Iriarte in 2008
Iriarte in 2008
  • ... that the Spanish mezzo-soprano Ana María Iriarte (pictured) made her debut in Valencia in 1945, retired from the stage as Carmen in Bordeaux in 1960, and created a foundation promoting zarzuela in 2006? Source: several, including [18]
Created by Thriley (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2133 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Suggesting a new hook:
ALT1 ... that zarzuela performer Ana María Iriarte made her professional debut in a show that had not been performed in 44 years?
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:00, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the suggestion, but what does it say about her? Retiring at age 32 from a glamourous career (role and theatre), but still active at age 80+ seems much more unusual to me, and I believe "zarzuela" needs to be mentioned, not some general "show". The word "professional" is long and seems to add nothing, imho. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The idea is to make more people click on the article and learn more about Irarte's accomplishments. Frankly, the first hook is not going to achieve that, and if that hook runs, I imagine it will do very poorly in terms of readership. I was actually trying to go with a hook regarding the length of her career but couldn't think of a way to express that. Mentioning "zarzuela" seems unnecessary per WP:DYKTRIM: we're trying to make hooks as concise and direct to the point as possible, not more complicated. Finally, as always, any hook is supposed to be in the interests of the reader, not the nominator, so what is more interesting and unusual to you may not be to the reader, especially the hoi polloi who is largely unfamiliar with classical music and opera. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:48, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about seeing you waste your time. I believe that "did you know ..." is about knowledge, knowledge about the specific subject, and you will not change that. I am sorry that - because this was a new article, translated by two editors wo both had little time - the article was not ready in time for "Recent deaths", where a few thousand would have looked just for mentioning her name, and we are stuck with DYK. The specific thing good to know about this singer was zarzuela, while any reader who knows mezzo-soprano would think opera instead, and any reader who doesn't know mezzo-soprano will not be interested anyway. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... any reader who doesn't know mezzo-soprano will not be interested anyway. Please read WP:DYKINT again: The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic. That is the wrong mindset to have on DYK and in fact is arguably the complete opposite of what DYKINT suggests. Hooks are meant to appeal precisely to the people who "don't know", not only to those that do. That's the whole point behind DYKINT. In any case, I have changed "mezzo-soprano" to "zarzuela performer", I only went with mezzo-soprano because that's what the original hook went with.
I should also note that "show" is the most appropriate wording in this case anyway since the article doesn't directly specify that El soñador was a zarzuela, and unless that is rectified, saying it was a zarzuela without being supported by the article would likely lead to a challenge at WT:DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:02, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She wasn't a zarzuela performer, - too narrow. Neither an opera nor a zarzuela performance would be called a "show", - that unprofessional wording is not consistent with the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:28, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Considering recent issues with one of Gerda's other nominations regarding sourcing, I'd like to ask 4meter4 if the sourcing for the article is adequate or not. Several of the sources like El Pais seem independent to me at least, but as I'm not well-versed with opera sources, this is just a double check. This is asking only about the sourcing, not the hook proposals. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No sourcing issues on this one. It's mainly sourced to the GSL which is an excellent tertiary source, but also has reliable secondary sources.4meter4 (talk) 01:25, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's easy when you have the GSL, but (naturally) we have problems with the younger singers performing after it was last published. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. The article is still in need of a full review. @4meter4, CurryTime7-24, Launchballer, and BlueMoonset: Now that we know that the article doesn't have any sourcing issues, what about the following hook?
ALT1a ... that Spanish mezzo-soprano Ana María Iriarte made her professional debut in a zarzuela that had not been performed in 44 years?
The article would need a change to make El soñador being a zarzuela explicit since it's currently not in the article; otherwise ALT1a cannot run (ALT1 theoretically could, but Gerda objected to that wording). ALT1a is the wording that's most accurate to the article, is concise and other than perhaps removing "Spanish" does not need a trim, and focuses on one primary hook fact without unnecessary clauses. I used "mezzo-soprano" before her name because that's what the original hook used, and I'm confused why Gerda thinks it's not problematic to call her "mezzo-soprano" in ALT0 but objected to using the exact same descriptor in ALT1. ALT0 definitely can't run as it runs afoul of DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:31, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Things have not gotten easier to be understood with you changing ALT0. Could you please restore it to saying mezzo-soprano, and write a new ALT using zarzuela performer. I never said mezzo-soprano is wrong, but "only" mezzo-soprano is misleading. However, "only" zarzuela performer is also misleading. She was both, and we have space enough in a hook to say so. She performed as Carmen, one of the most interesting opera characters of all times, although 150 years old on 3 March 2025, as the Main page proclaimed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article, created on 6 Feb, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. QPQ done. No copyvio issues. Of the hooks, I prefer ALT0 (I would say the interest comes from the length of her career and the unfamiliarity of the word zarzuela, as a layman). It's on the long side (I'd suggest losing "in Valencia" and "in Bordeaux") but it can be trimmed at the prep stage. Checking the citations for ALT0, the GSL verifies the first two clauses, while the last clause is verified by two end of line citations in the article that I've added. Image is free and legible at low resolution. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 20:44, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Eh, I understand you're relatively new to DYK Tenpop421, but ALT0 and its hook format have tended to woefully underperform views-wise, and such hooks have been criticized in the past for not meeting the DYK interest requirements. It wouldn't be surprising if the hook ended up being objected to on WT:DYK given similar cases in the past, so it's probably for the best not to use it (I also essentially rejected the hook outright above). I'm not opposed to a hook about the length of her career as an alternative (that was the angle I was originally going for), but ALT0 as written probably won't do all that well among readers (you can ask Theleekycauldron for the statistics for similar hooks). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:30, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @Narutolovehinata5: might be worthwhile to solicit a third opinion at this point. Do you wanna tag leeky? Tenpop421 (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Tenpop421, for background see User talk:Gerda Arendt/2024#Notice ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Asking for a third opinion is probably a good idea, although not from Leeky since she can be pretty busy these days. She does maintain viewership statistics for DYK hooks though, and if you read through them you'll notice that Gerda's performer hooks tend to do really badly if they focus on roles, but do a lot better if they focus on other stuff. Having said that, it's probably for the best for ALT0 to remain struck, but reworkings of the main hook fact (the length of her career) might work depending on the wording (I agree that even if ALT0 were used, it would need a trimming anyway). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:46, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Tenpop, for additional context, you may also want to read the discussion that codified the current guidelines regarding hook interest. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:56, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Tenpop421, you will have noticed that we should forget the "know" in "did you know ...?", that is a past from years ago, - the goal now is view count. Dropping information, better for readers with a short attention span:
    ALT0a: ... that Ana María Iriarte (pictured) made her stage debut in 1945, retired as Carmen in 1960, and created a foundation promoting zarzuela in 2006? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I like both ALT1a and ALT0a. What might help break the impasse is for both Gerda and Narutolovehinata5 to propose versions of the other's hooks. Viriditas (talk) 23:23, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0a is an improvement over ALT0 but I think it could still be reworded. Maybe something like:
ALT0b ... that Spanish mezzo-soprano, Ana María Iriarte (pictured), who was active from 1945 until her death in 2025, created a foundation promoting zarzuela in 2006?
I have reservations that the foundation promoting zarzuela angle is the most interesting part of the article, and I have doubts it do spectacularly among DYK readers, but it's fine enough and totally serviceable as a hook fact. My main concern with ALT0a is that I don't see why Carmen out of all her roles is the one that's highlighted especially when she's had many over the years. It feels needlessly complicated; it might be better to just focus on the foundation creation in this case at least to keep the hook focused instead of wandering. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:30, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively, we could go in a somewhat different direction, focusing on the length of her career rather than the foundation or the debut:
ALT2 ... that Spanish mezzo-soprano Ana María Iriarte (pictured) made her professional debut at 18 in 1945 and remained active until her death in 2025?
Not sure if the wording is good enough, but it could be a good starting point for brainstorming at least. Probably not uncommon in the realm of classical music and adjacent fields, but maybe it has appeal to the layperson? I still personally think that the "debuting in a show that hadn't been performed in more than 40 years" is the more unusual and intriguing angle, but if consensus is against it then the career length angle is a decent alternative. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Was she active until her death? This would be very impressive, as she died age 98! Tenpop421 (talk) 00:05, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately that's not the case: she retired from performing in 1960 and spent the rest of her life teaching and promoting zarzuela. It would have indeed been impressive if that was the case. By "active" I was thinking more of her involvement in the industry, as the article never specifies if she retired from the industry entirely before her death. ALT2 as written is inaccurate, it was meant more to be a starting point for brainstorming. It also means ALT0b is inaccurate as written but could be revised (meaning ALT0a might be the most accurate option at the moment). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0b is as unspecific as can be, could be about a school teacher. Instead of both opera and zarzuela, the things she excelled in, we have none, really? No from me. - ALT0a already sacrificed that Valencia is where she is based, and that she performed internationally: things I would love to tell! - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 is worse, loosing also the quirkyness of retirement at 32 but being an influential sponsor in her eighties. No-no from me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Trying to please:
ALT0c: ... that Ana María Iriarte (pictured) retired from the stage as Carmen in 1960, but created a foundation promoting zarzuela in 2006? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't see why the mention of Carmen is non-negotiable for you. Something like ALT0a (but without mentioning Carmen since the point is her retirement, not her last role) would have been better. ALT0c also loses the interest because it removes her debut, and the contrast between her debut and her later life is what was meant to be the source of interest here. Gerda, I understand that you are really passionate about roles and the foundation, but the way I see it, ALT1a is probably the safest option here and the one that will most likely make people click on Iriarte's article and make them actually learn more about her. ALT0 and its derivatives are far less likely. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:59, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You don't see it but "Carmen" is much shorter than "a mezzo-soprano in opera", which it all includes. "Carmen" also includes "top of the line", and is an interesting story that people do know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Back to DYK, and it seems some things never change. Marking this as queried so it doesn't clog up WP:DYKNA. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:50, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Per Viriditas's commnents, is there a version of Narutolovehinata5's ALT1 that would work for you? Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 14:14, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My view: it tells us that she performed in a zarzuela that was not performed in 44 years, and that's all. Is that anything about her? Not in my book. I said what I want in a hook about this highly unusual woman, repeating: 1) say that she was great (internationally) in opera and zarzuela, opera up to the most interesting role in her mezzo-soprano voice range (which is all contained in the one word "Carmen"), and 2) the interesting gap between retirement and creating a foundation (which is a substantial social and cultural gift, not just being active). I think ALT0c has that in a rather concise way. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Hmmmm... well I agree with Narutolovehinata5 that I wouldn't want to remove the contrast between her debut and her later life (short career, long active retirement is part of what makes her life interesting). It looks to me that the discussion is circling around accepting a variant of ALT0 (Narutolovehinata5's objections appear to have toned down, and myself and Viriditas see it as interesting). Narutolovehinata5 objects to the inclusion of "Carmen", and I agree with him. Would you both be willing to compromise on
ALT0d: ... that Ana María Iriarte (pictured) made her stage debut in 1945, retired in 1960, and created a foundation promoting zarzuela in 2006?
Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 14:51, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am unhappy with not mentioning anything about opera, and the few characters "as Carmen" would do it. ALT0d leaves it open completely open what kind of stage, and the few characters "as Carmen" would establish that it wasn't cabaret or playhouse. ALTd also doesn't provide that she was a singer, and the few characters "as Carmen" would carry the information. If you find a better way to include these things, I am willing to compromise, but this version misses too much. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:01, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Proposing a follow-on to ALT0d that gives a bit more detail:
  • ALT0e: ... that Ana María Iriarte (pictured) made her professional opera debut in 1945, retired from the stage in 1960, and created a foundation promoting zarzuela in 2006?
My original intention was to note her debut in zarzuela, but most of what I've found online (including Spanish Wikipedia) indicates that El soñador was an opera, not a zarzuela (though Salvador Giner Vidal wrote plenty of works in both genres), so I recast it. I have also struck ALT1 and ALT1a, since the former implies that she was primarily a zarzuela performer rather than opera, and the latter explicitly (and apparently incorrectly) says she debuted in a zarzuela. (I don't insist on including "from the stage", but I think it flows better with it and is a bit clearer.) —BlueMoonset (talk) 23:31, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) This is a recurring issue with your nominations, and you have to understand that in many cases, to get your nominations approved, you have to compromise. Sometimes that may have to mean giving up particular information or hook facts. You can't simply have everything go your way, or be upset if alternatives are suggested or gain support. DYK hooks are intended to be in the interest of the reader and not the nominator, and if only the latter is satisfied and not the former, that's a failure for DYK. You have a reputation on DYK for being insistent on certain hook wordings or information, often objecting grounds that may be considered nitpicky, and that's often led to nominations that end up being longer than the articles themselves (this being another example of that).
You know it's an issue: it's one that can be avoided if you just propose WP:DYKINT-compliant hooks from the start. Again, oftentimes that will mean not going with hooks that mention roles and instead focusing on a non-opera related fact about the person. However, when you've repeatedly said that your goal on DYK is to make readers read more about these people, getting their attention with an unusual or catchy hook will be far more effective at that goal than with the status quo.
To Tenpop, my preference remains a variant of ALT1 but I am open to ALT0d and BlueMoonset's new wording as a compromise. I just don't see the mention of Carmen as essential per WP:DYKTRIM; it's not something that is central to the hook fact (the main point being her retirement, not specifically her last role). Carmen is a well-known opera, but mentioning it out of all her roles seems undue and subjective (especially when the reason seems to be that Gerda likes that role and not because it was her last role). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:48, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've struck my ALT2 above due to inaccuracy and am proposing an alternative version of ALT1/ALT1b below, though I'm open to ALT0e if ALT1's angle doesn't gain consensus.
ALT1b ... that Spanish mezzo-soprano Ana María Iriarte made her professional debut in an opera that had not been performed in 44 years?
Again, El soñador being an opera would need to be in the article for ALT1b to work as written, but if that can't be done, "opera" could be swapped out for "show". If the desire, however, is to highlight the length of her career, then ALT0e is the best option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:13, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for fixing, but I think pointing at her strange career, strong when young and when very old, nothing to report about for decades in between, is the better option. ALT1b also misses zarzuela. ALT0e: I'd drop professional. In the article, we need that to explain why her appearances as a student don't count as such, but not in a hook. - I am sure that the well known Carmen would give her more admiration as obviously a great singer than mentioning a no-name piece in which she may have performed a minor role. - On Ravel's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As mentioned above, the mention of zarzuela is problematic (the work wasn't actually a zarzuela after all, and she was more active in operas than zarzuelas). "Professional" is needed for precision purposes; leaving it out could lead to objections at WT:DYK or WP:ERRORS. As BlueMoonset was the one who initially raised the concern about zarzuela, perhaps they can explain the issue to you in more detail.
Also, please remember that WP:DYKTRIM is an established guideline. Given you are DYK's most prolific contributor, I honestly have trouble understanding how you seem reluctant to follow it in your hooks. Someone with your experience should really be the one following the guidelines and setting an example, instead of disregarding them because it would mean not including your favored wordings or details. Hooks should be concise and direct to the point: needless complexity only confuses readers and weakens a hook's impact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:50, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... concise and direct to the point, like ALT0c --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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St. George Utah Temple

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The cannon used as a pile driver
The cannon used as a pile driver
  • ... that a cannon used by Napoleon in his Russian Campaign (pictured) was later repurposed as a pile driver to create the foundation of the St. George Utah Temple?

"The St. George Temple, completed in 1877, was a study in pioneer ingenuity...

An old cannon, one that was taken by Napoleon for his siege of Moscow, and which had found its way out west, was used as a piledriver... and then dropped upon the rock fill to solidify it into a strong base(foundation)"
    • ALT1: ... that Brigham Young altered the architecture of the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) from the afterlife?

*Source: https://www.deseret.com/2003/7/11/19734272/temple-burns-151-but-not-angel/ "In the case of the St. George Temple, the fire became a local legend. Brigham Young had never liked the short, squat original temple steeple, and when the fire occurred — after his death — officials sighed and concluded that President Young was directing temple architecture from the afterlife. The new, taller steeple was built according to his stated desire."

    • ALT2: ... that the St. George Utah Temple's baptismal font, modeled after a live ox and supported by twelve iron-cast oxen, was transported by oxen? (pictured)
"He began the Davis Foundry in 1872, and one of his first orders was to make the baptismal font and the twelve oxen to support it for the St George Temple.... Searched for a perfect ox... (it was) used as a live model...The rest of the way it was transported in three specially built oxen-drawn wagons"
    • Reviewed: N/A
    • Comment: I put the hooks in order of those I thought would be most intriguing for the recent GA grade for the St. George Utah Temple, a temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Since I felt the first was strongest, I put that as the default photo. If we want to make the hook for #1 more of a surprise, I would say instead: "The cannon used" so it is more of a surprise.

Each hook I've listed would go best with a different photo. I couldn't find any rules against having a possibility of different images, so I added links to Wikimedia commons for clarity.

Hook 1 image: The one shown (St. George Temple Visitors Center Cannon.jpg)

Hook 2 image (A front view of the building): St. George Utah Temple 2023-10-02.jpg Caption: The St. George Utah Temple

Hook 3 image: Ox Team that Hauled the Font to St. George Temple, 1874.png Caption: Oxen that hauled the baptismal font


For those checking the validity of the source, Deseret News is considered generally reliable as a source, per the Latter Day Saint Wiki project movement.[1]

I went back through this nomination template after the date it was nominated several times and added a few things to make the nomination more clear. March 1st I added some links to images to clarify things. However, the nomination itself was done within 7 days per the DYK rules, which is shown in the edit history of this template. This is my second DYK, so I'm not perfectly familiar with the rules, but I wanted to make things clearer while also showing that I am complying with the time rule.

Improved to Good Article status by Itsetsyoufree32 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Nachi Gordon

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  • ... that Nachi Gordon, one of the youngest agents to sign an NBA player, transitioned from sports management to founding Meaningful Minute, a platform delivering daily inspirational videos?
Moved to mainspace by Yeshivish613 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Yeshivish613 (talk) 21:15, 12 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Given that this is a basketball-related topic, asking TonyTheTiger if he has any ideas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:23, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbabwe at the 2014 Winter Olympics

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  • Reviewed: n/a
  • Comment: FYI, I might not reply fast on this nomination.
Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

🐝 B33net 🐝 15:40, 12 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - n
  • Interesting: No - n
  • Other problems: No - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Drive-by nomination. The issue is that the hook is not particularly interesting, many tropical nations that do not snow have participated in the Winter Olympics. Also, the source does state that Zimbabwe had not had snowfall in 40 years... except it's the skier who said that, "I don't think there has been any recorded snowfall in Zimbabwe in something like the last 40 years," the 20-year-old skier said in a telephone interview., I would not consider this quote to be reliable. @B33net: jolielover♥talk 14:13, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not only that, but the claim is contradicted by a quick search: apparently it may have snowed in Zimbabwe in the 1930s, but more importantly, there have been reports of snow in more recent years (which may or may not be accurate, but at the very least it makes the claim questionable). I don't know if the following would be considered interesting, but the article is rather sparse on hooky material, thus:
ALT1 ... that Luke Steyn, Zimbabwe's only athlete during its Winter Olympics debut in 2014, moved to Switzerland when he was two years old and grew up in Europe?
Otherwise, the nomination may sadly have to be rejected for lack of a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Narutolovehinata5: I did think of that, but most reports (that I saw) about snow in Zimbabwe concluded that it was a country that does not snow, and its last recorded snowfall was 70+ years ago. The reports of snow in Zimbabwe in recent times, though debated, reportedly all happened after his participation. That's what I remember of when I searched info about snow in Zimbabwe when reviewing this hook. I do like your rewording of the hook, though not sure if I should pass it since the nominator has been AWOL from this nom since. Alternatively:

ALT2 ... that Luke Steyn was Zimbabwe's only athlete during its Winter Olympics debut in 2014?

@B33net:, what do you think about the new hooks? jolielover♥talk 16:44, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hit N Fun

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  • ... that the entire development of the film Hit N Fun took only about four months from start to finish?
Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 31 past nominations.

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:34, 12 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Latter_Day_Saint_movement
  2. ^ 許育民 (1 February 2025). "臨時決鬥｜麥啟光經歷杜琪峯的即興　「凌晨2點Call人聽朝開早」". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 11 February 2025. 9月開拍，12月前完埋尾做後期，成套戲由冇到煞科只有3、4個月時間籌備 [Production began in September, and post-production was completed before December, with the entire film being developed in just three to four months from nothing to completion.]
  3. ^ "Festive flops at Box office, recording just HK$30.6m in the pot". The Standard. 4 February 2025. Retrieved 9 February 2025. However, the top seller "Hit N Fun" managed to rake in only HK$7.47 million, roughly one-third of last year's leading film "Table for Six 2" earned.
  4. ^ "臨時決鬥︱古天樂Gigi再拍賀歲片有默契　畏高王丹妮玩垂直滑梯嚇到眼濕濕". TOPick (in Chinese). 19 January 2025. Retrieved 9 February 2025. 因為丹妮本身不但畏高，更抗拒玩高的機動遊戲，但片中有場戲講述胡子彤帶王丹妮到新濠影滙水上樂園減壓玩垂直滑梯時，丹妮眼濕濕為角色頂硬上 [It is because Louise Wong not only has acrophobia but also avoids high amusement rides. But there is a scene in which Tony Wu takes Louise Wong to the Studio City Water Park to relieve stress by going down a vertical water slide, and Louise Wong, with teary eyes, bravely goes along with it for her character.]
  5. ^ 許育民 (26 January 2025). "臨時決鬥｜梁詠琪王丹妮品評三型男　周秀娜難忍胡子彤紅色短褲仔". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 11 February 2025. 梁詠琪自言一直都想再拍喜劇，所以接到《臨時決鬥》的劇本，都非常期待，以為會好輕鬆打下麻雀，冇想到這麼辛苦。「開拍前要有一個月時間密集式地學泰拳，學習打人同被打都有技巧 [Gigi Leung expressed that she has always wanted to return to comedy, so when she received the script for Hit N Fun, she was very excited, thinking it would be easy to just play mahjong. She did not expect it to be so hard. "Before filming, I had a month of intensive Muay Thai training, learning the techniques for both punching and being punched."]
  6. ^ 莫匡堯 (26 October 2024). "臨時決鬥︱古天樂演退休拳王　周秀娜開工即受傷︰啲肉爆開縫5針". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 9 February 2025. 另一邊廂周秀娜則要做好打戲訓練：「我訓練咗一個月，一直去到10月中開始拍。」娜姐現身開鏡時右腳小腿貼上膠布，竟表示原來是真傷：「第一日開工嗰時就整親！第一日就畀鐵嘅櫈腳整親，即刻去咗醫院、啲肉爆開咗，去咗醫院縫咗5針！」 [On the other hand, Chrissie Chau has to prepare for fight training: "I trained for a month, and filming started in mid-October." When she appeared on set, her right calf was covered in tape, and she revealed that it was a real injury: "On the first day of filming, I got hurt! I was hit by the foot of a metal chair right away; I immediately went to the hospital, and the flesh was torn open. I had to get five stitches!"]
  7. ^ "古天樂開拍港產賀歲片救市 孖「城寨四子」梁詠琪周秀娜趕工丨獨家". Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 14 October 2024. Retrieved 11 February 2025. 近日《星島頭條》收到消息指明年的港產賀歲片暫時僅得兩部，其中一部是《九龍城寨之圍城》班底的新作 / 據知情者透露，這套賀歲片除了原班人馬古天樂及「城寨四子」：林峯、伍允龍、胡子彤與張文傑外，更加入了王丹妮、梁詠琪、周秀娜和陳湛文等 [Recently, Sing Tao Daily received news that there will only be two local New Year films next year, one of which is a new project featuring the ensemble cast of Twilight of the Warriors: Walled In. / According to insiders, this New Year film features the original cast [of Twilight of the Warriors: Walled In], including Louis Koo and the "Walled City Quartet": Raymond Lam, Philip Ng, Tony Wu, and German Cheung, along with Louise Wong, Gigi Leung, Chrissie Chau, and Peter Chan joining the cast.]

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Prem Bery

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Bery with First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy at Cottage Industries Emporium in India (1962)
Bery with First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy at Cottage Industries Emporium in India (1962)
Created by Whispyhistory (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 205 past nominations.

Whispyhistory (talk) 20:45, 20 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Grim Reaper of Love

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  • Source: Everett, Walter (2008). The Foundations of Rock: From "Blue Suede Shoes" to "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" (1st ed.). US: Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-01-997-187-02. Page 308.

Sandoval, Andrew (2002). Solid Zinc: The Turtles Anthology. US: Rhino. R2 78304. Page 14.

Inglot, Bill (2009). Save The Turtles: The Turtles Greatest Hits. US: FloEdCo. MFO 48002. Page 9.
    • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by VirreFriberg (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

VirreFriberg (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Seems good, valid GA. "first" hook, which needs exceptional sourcing but three reliable sources are provided, which looks good to me. Cannot access but will AGF. However, in the body this claim does not actually seem to be said? ""something in a 5/4 time hadn't really been done in rock'n'roll", and quoted, not sure if it's quoting the musician or a secondary source, not really definitive. Does one of the provided sources say it was "one of the earliest" or equivalent? PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:33, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi, @PARAKANYAA. The Sandoval (2002) source states per verbatim "experiment with something in a 5/4 time that hadn't really been done as far as rock 'n' roll". The liner notes were written by musicologist Andrew Sandoval together with interviews from members of the Turtles!

1955 Scottsbluff tornado, Cycloidal marks

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The 1955 Scottsbluff tornado near Scottsbluff, Nebraska
The 1955 Scottsbluff tornado near Scottsbluff, Nebraska
Created by EF5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

EF5 17:20, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article isn't too bad but "well-photographed" is not a perfect analogue for "well-documented" in both the source and the article. While it might be relatively moot it still seems a little too SYNTH-y. The cycloical marks article really isn't long enough (at all) for DYK. It could be expanded, or you could change the hook to focus just on the Scottsbluff tornado.
Hmm, I also think the claim about being the "best-documented" and indeed all figures for photographs focus on the tornado family - the AMS source you linked is even titled Notes on Scottsbluff, Nebraska, Tornadoes, 27 June 1955 - are we sure the article is even on one single tornado? This is about the most clean-up work I'm comfortable not failing; it's not quite "insurmountable" and I do think it's possible. Let me know when you're done clarifying everything and I'll finish my review. Departure– (talk) 21:25, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Departure–: Will do shortly. How about that the 1955 Scottsbluff tornado (pictured) produced "unusual markings" later determined to be cycloidal marks? Debolding cycloidal marks gets rid of the length issue, as nonbolded links in the hook don't have quality standards. Will do the rest shortly once I finish up Draft:1920 Hackleburg–Phil Campbell tornado (which is surprisingly a real event). EF5 21:33, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shabbos Kestenbaum

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  • ALT1: ... that registered Democrat Shabbos Kestenbaum spoke at the Republican National Convention in July 2024 and endorsed Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election?
    • Created by Yeshivish613 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Yeshivish613 (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • The article is new enough, long enough, and the citations appear to be from RS (I will review more closely shortly). The hook is mildly interesting, but there are facts that are more fascinating to the passing viewer in the article. The article needs to be copyedited a bit, as it's very AI-y (the adjectives are a tell). ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hi @Pbritti: just to follow up on this review... Yeshivish613 (talk) 15:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • Having performed a spot check of the cited statements, I have identified a couple issues. A source says "In a school journal, he decried the Iraq War", which is interpreted in the article as he first became politically active, notably opposing the Iraq War at a young age. This is an inaccurate representation of the source. The same article is cited for despite his stated disillusionment with both major political parties, but he expresses no disillusionment with the Republican Party, only discontent with antisemitism among both far-left and far-right factions. I'm not entirely convinced that the article is in a suitable state to run on the main page. Please rewrite while keeping close to the sources. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Sequoites dakotensis

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    Sequoites dakotensis cone cast fossils
    • ... that in 1935, when Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described as a member of the genus Sequoia, it was common for such species to be known only by their fossilized cones?
    • Source: Brown, Roland W. (October 15, 1935). "Some fossil conifers from Maryland and North Dakota". Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences. 25 (10): 441-450. JSTOR 24530142.
    5x expanded by Pbritti (talk), Bubblesorg (talk) and Kevmin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 68 past nominations.

    Pbritti (talk) 05:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    He may be a specialist, but a taxonomic authority prefers Sequoites. The link you provided above considers Sequoia dakotensis a synonym of Sequoites dakotensis. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    • The website is just a taxonomic names list, it does not speak to a consensus per say. Also, it does not confirm synonyms here, it just puts this as saying that some authors consider it a synonym or basionym. https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65. Bring me papers and books. Actually the Sequoites dakotensis discussion should be seperate from this discussion. Sequoites is not the same thing as Sequoia from a paleobotanical sense. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Kevmin: I was not expecting a long-dead tree to cause such disruption! I'm requesting a stay on this review until the taxonomic issues are sorted out. @Bubblesorg: multiple taxonomic authorities superior to a non-peer-reviewed amateur book reject the Sequoia name. The plant has been reassigned and remains somewhat uncertain, per Kevmin. Cut-and-paste moves are disruptive. We can discuss this further on the talk page. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What multiple papers? Most papers either suggest Sequoia or Parataxodium. Only parts of the plant are assigned to Sequoites. You did not have any consensus here to change it. I only used the Gary point to respond to the other person when they questioned the reliability of the source, I am not using it here to keep the name as Sequoia instead of Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Pbritti agreed, we should reach a stable version of the article and correctly cover the taxonomy issue (some authors fully and wrongly ignoring Bell) before we continue the nom here, I'll have to step out from reviewing as I have now added notable information to the article.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Bubblesorg This discussion needs to be at the article talk page. The IFPNI listing at Sequoia dakotensis specifically links it to Sequoites dakotensis as a jr synonym, and notes it as the older name. I also just added a summary from Kevin Aulenbacks book on the Horseshoe Canyon Formation, where he specifically also uses Sequoites dakotensis, connects it to PArataxodium and links several other organ taxa into a larger whole plant reconstruction based on foliage, ovulate cone, pollen, and pollen cone morphology. All that we now seem to be missing is a formal paper making the official moves and synonymies.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    He linked it to many genera not just Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Question, does the Saurian field guide count as a reliable source? Probably not. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    new reviewer needed as I have substantially added and edited the article now, also the page move of the nomination here is creating editing access issues wit the nomination templates.-Kevmin § 15:46, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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    Emil Beasy

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    Beasy in 1925
    Beasy in 1925
    • ... that when not playing pro football, Emil Beasy (pictured) was a firefighter?
    Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 303 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:20, 21 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • This article, promoted to GA on Feb 14, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio issues. QPQ done Image public domain and legible at low res. All three hooks are okay, but I have to say this jumped out at me:
    ALT3: ... "Busy" Beasy was a boxer, professional footballer, and firefighter, all at the same time?
    @BeanieFan11: let me know if this hook works for you, and I can request another reviewer for it. Tenpop421 (talk) 15:27, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tenpop421: Ooh, I like that one, though I'd tweak it a little to ALT3b ... that "Busy" Beasy was a boxer, professional football player, and firefighter, all at the same time? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT3b is okay, but shouldn't it be American footballer? Given how there's no other indication that he's American, so without context readers might assume football of the association kind. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:06, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Rip Owens

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    Owens in the NFL
    Owens in the NFL
    • ... that NFL player Rip Owens (pictured) was described as "corking good" – yet only played three games?
    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 302 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:12, 21 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    2025 U.S. Department of Justice resignations

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    Created by Remember (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Remember (talk) 15:43, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    • ... that Bini's "Blink Twice" music video garnered one million views in just 12 hours?
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    Created by Royiswariii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    ROY is WAR Talk! 11:55, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Southern Transitional Council takeover of Socotra

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    Created by Abo Yemen (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Louisiana Mayor's Courts

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    • ... that in the United States Louisiana and Ohio are the only states with Mayor's Courts?
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    • Comment: Under "Mayor's Court" drop-down
    Created by Otr500 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Otr500 (talk) 03:46, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - There are at least one non-lead paragraph without sources (see the section Issues of conflicts of interest and bias). There are also failed verifications from sources, for example completely dead and recent sources (ref 5) and sources that links to appearently personal files on OneDrive (ref 4). Also see the comment I gave for the hook's source (ref 2).
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - The source have a failed verification to the hook: it had zero mentions of the word "Ohio", so it's safe to assume that it didn't verify the hook.
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - I'm quite concerned about whether the hook is relevant to the article: it doesn't quite make sense to say that there are two states with Mayor Courts, but linking the bolded link to one of the state's court.
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Earwig said 16.7% simliarity, but Court costs section seems like the list is a mostly-copy of the source (with some modifications), so I'm not entirely sure about this. There are some style issues with the page, eg. starting a list without starting a new line and not using a list in the See also section. Overall, well done on creating the article, but there is some work required to be eligible DYK levels. (PS: I'm a new reviewer, other reviwers: please correct me if necessary) Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 12:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Dinesh Chandra Dakua

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    • Source: Nandini Basistha. Politics of Separatism. K.K. Publications, 2022. p. 127
    Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 419 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 16:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Date, size, QPQ, copyvio and ref spotchecks, all GTG. I am mildly concerned about the hook, which may be passable but is pretty boring. How about one based on the fact that his house was attacked at some point? It could draw more views while still being neutral (unlike drawing attention to his political views, I think). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:46, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hi. I'd say that it took from independence up to 1987 for the Rajbanshi people to have a cabinet minister is a notable fact. An ALT hook on the 2016 violence is possible, but I'd say that this would be the most hookworthy factoid of the article. --Soman (talk) 10:43, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Johann Jacob Ferber

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    Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 149 past nominations.

    Yakikaki (talk) 16:20, 15 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Logical (song)

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    Olivia Rodrigo performing on a crescent moon prop on the Guts World Tour in 2024
    Olivia Rodrigo performing on a crescent moon prop on the Guts World Tour in 2024
    Moved to mainspace by MaranoFan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 84 past nominations.

    NØ 05:13, 15 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    I have added ALT2, Narutolovehinata5.--NØ 13:48, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The new wording is okay-ish, but now that I think about it, I wonder if an alternative hook that isn't reliant on unfamiliar names would be a better option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You can have a look at ALT3 in case that's preferable.--NØ 13:56, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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    Nicole Gee

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    Gee cradling an infant in Kabul, Afghanistan, August 2021
    Gee cradling an infant in Kabul, Afghanistan, August 2021
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    Created by DMVHistorian (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    DMVHistorian (talk) 01:04, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]


    Nadeesha Uyangoda

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    • ... that the Italian-Sri Lankan journalist Nadeesha Uyangoda co-hosts the podcast Sulla razza (About Race) which explains Anglo-American terminology around racism? Source: " Author and journalist Nadeesha Uyangoda created Sulla Razza (About Race) in April 2020 with two co-hosts. Their aim is to explain Anglo-American terms like “tokenism,” “the n-word,” and “BIPOC” and discuss their relevance to life in Italy. Through this project, Uyangoda is addressing another issue in Italy that is often overlooked by the mainstream media: the lack of a shared vocabulary to talk about race." https://niemanreports.org/in-europe-podcasters-of-color-make-their-own-space-for-conversations-on-race/
      • ALT1: ... that due to her experience of Italy's immigration policies, Sri Lankan journalist Nadeesha Uyangoda has been outspoken on migrant rights? Source: "Uyangoda was speaking at the Festival of New Italian Generations, organized by Next Generation Italy, a grassroots group of first- and second-generation Italians. Their work aims to give a voice to young Italians with immigrant backgrounds who do not feel sufficiently represented in Italian politics and are now asserting the importance of their citizenship rights and demanding fair representation in politics. It’s a rare opportunity for Italians to hear and learn directly from those affected by Italy’s immigration policies—rather than from politicians with no skin in the game." https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/05/italian-citizenship-culture-blood-immigration/
      • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Dugo
    Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 120 past nominations.

    Lajmmoore (talk) 08:52, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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    Rudolf Herzog

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    Created by Uriahheep228 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Uriahheep228 (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • This article, created on 17 Feb, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. QPQ done. Both hooks are interesting, I prefer ALT1. However, @Uriahheep228:, so far as my German goes Flachheit is closer to "shallowness" than "gentleness". Tenpop421 (talk) 23:43, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    People Watching (Conan Gray song)

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    Improved to Good Article status by TheDoctorWho (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    TheDoctorWho (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Not a review, but ALT0 and ALT1 violate WP:DYKFICTION and I'm all ears as to how ALT2 meets WP:DYKHOOKBLP.--Launchballer 20:04, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Launchballer: I can see the issues with ALT1 and DYKFICTION, but ALT0 isn't fiction. The song doesn't ever mention college, and this was based off a quote in which the artist said "There’s nothing I love more than watching them exist in their little world, where seemingly nobody else exists to them. The song’s lyrics are things I’ve eavesdropped off of times I used to spend people watching at the café in college." It references what the lyrics are inspired by, but is referring to his real-life experience.
    Now, that said, I could see the potential of it also being a HOOKBLP issue, but not fiction. Regardless (and a note to anyone reviewing this), seeing as all three of these are potentially still no go's I'll try to see if I can grab some other alternate hooks within the next 48 hours. Requesting that this not be failed before that time. TheDoctorWho (talk) 23:05, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Proposing some alt hooks because of the above:
    These obviously aren't for April Fool's anymore. While the second one is sort of just a reword, it places less emphasis on the person and instead on the song which should solve the DYKHOOKBLP issue, I believe. TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:50, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Full review needed.--Launchballer 12:16, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Lydie Pongault

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    For culture: "Lydie Pongault, appointed Minister of Cultural Industry" https://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/index2.php?url=https://www.rtbf.be/article/congo-brazzaville-leger-remaniement-gouvernemental-le-ministre-des-finances-limoge-11073524#federation=archive.wikiwix.com&tab=url
    Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 123 past nominations.

    Lajmmoore (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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    Simon Neal (baritone)

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    • ... that Simon Neal portrayed complex characters in 20th-century operas, including Dr. Schön and Jack the Ripper in Lulu, and Nekrotzar in Ligeti's Le Grand Macabre? Source: several reviews
    Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2134 past nominations.

    Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • The issue with the hook is that it is, to quote Launchballer, "person-does-their-jobby", and thus may not meet WP:DYKINT ("The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic"). I can't see much else usable in the article that isn't "Neal doing this and that role" other than the review, but review hooks have tended to underperform on DYK, so it might not be worth it to pursue that angle. If more information could be found about his business career (the article doesn't elaborate on if he actually pursued business or not, or what the details were), then maybe that would work. Also pinging 4meter4 or CurryTime7-24 for possible hook suggestions, particularly for anything I may have missed. Otherwise, the nomination may have to be rejected for lack of a hook that meets WP:DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:36, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I don't think that "Jack the Ripper" needs any special knowledge, - and "Le Grand Macabre" should raise curiosity without special knowledge. - If you say performing a role is "doing their job", you could say the same of an architect creating a house, or a painter creating a portrait, but no: al these things are more than just doing their job. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I haven't found the slightest bit about his business career beyond the mentioning, and even if, I'd not want to make something a living person left behind a hook, while what that person does exceptionally well, recognised from Australia to the UK, would not be mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm commenting because I was pinged. I would have suggested just leaving the operas out because being known for playing complex characters in 20th century operas is a highly niche career and I think interesting. However, we can't do that because in looking in the sources that part of the hook fact isn't verifiable to the cited materials which do not describe the characters as "complex" or name Simon in association with that rep as a career focus. They very well may be compex, but the sources don't support that fact. In other words, that claim is original to the article and should be removed as WP:SYNTH. I also agree that role listings doesn't work except in rare circumstances as a hook. At this point, I see nothing "hooky" in the article.
    I'm also concerned about the sourcing, because Gerda has once again submitted an article built almost predominantly from theatre bios which are PR materials that lack independence from the subject. This could end up at WP:AFD/WP:ERRORS if it heads to the main page in this state for lack of independent sourcing. I'm not saying these sources are unreliable, but that there aren't enough independent ones with WP:SIGCOV to demonstrate WP:GNG currently. The article should not be largely built from artist bios on the websites of theaters that employ the subject. For one, those are often written by the subect or their talent management, and on top of that they tend to have nothing original to say about the artist which is why the article is boring. Using these types of sources a little here or there is ok, but currently more than half of the citations are to those sources. It shouldn't be hard to track down some newspaper/magazine reviews of the performances and swap them out with the theatre bio citations. That would stop the article from having an issue during its run at DYK.
    Even better, it would be good to locate some sort of original coverage of the singer in a secondary source that isn't just a production or performance review (an artist profile piece). Those type of materials tend to have more personal information which often lead to more suitable hooks. Gerda, once again please stop submitting articles cited predominantly to non-independent materials, and ones where independent coverage of the artist is fleeting in secondary sources. I'm not seeing one particularly strong independent source. None of the independent sources are about Neal as the primary subject which is problematic, and the reviews are mainly only a sentence or two long in focusing on Neal. The reviews of Lulu are the strongest sources. I've also found a couple cited places which the content they are supposed to be verifying can't be found. Perhaps you put in the wrong source when juggling between references? One ot the sources didn't even name Simon at all anywhere. Once the referencing has been significantly improved we can revisit this, but not until then. Ping Narutolovehinata5 and me when this is ready for a second look. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:08, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I fixed the wrong links (I hope). - I struck "complex" in the hook. May readers find out themselves. (Sorry, I was in a hurry when I noticed that it was last hours to nominate, and already regret that I tried.) The biographies of the four houses that I used are strictly informative about performances, - please explain what's not neutral about that. If he had begun his career when the GLS was compiled, it would also be a list of performances when and where, no? - I tried and added more reviews, but need to pursue a few other things before searching for more. There are more detailed reviews, but in German and paywalled, - I'd try to avoid that. - I found an interview where he says that he is Irish-British and began singing on stage at age 36. Please check if that is acceptable as a ref. - I found no other source for a place of birth than one of the theatre bios, - help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Seriously? Gerda Arendt you should be able to understand the difference between the Großes Sängerlexikon and a theatre bio. The GLS is an academic Single-field dictionary independently published by De Gruyter. It is a WP:TERTIARY source mainly; although in places Karl-Josef Kutsch and Leo Riemens provide critical assessment and commentary making it somewhat WP:SECONDARY. In contrast, opera house websites are entirely WP:SELFPUBLISHED by the theatre, and they are not Wikipedia:Independent sources as they employ the artist who is paid by them. Opera house websites are WP:PRIMARY sources, and artist bios (usually written by talent agents) are WP:PRSOURCEs and WP:COISOURCEs. The artist bios have no named authors nor do they have editorial oversight. Are they reliable? Usually (although I have caught some errors over my years of editing; such as artists who worked as a cover singer and never actually performed the part claiming a role at a particular theatre.) Reliability is not the main issue; independence is as is not overusing primary/self-published/PR materials per WP:No Original Research and WP:Verifiability policies. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I think we have a misunderstanding, possibly my fault. I see - let's take Oper Frankfurt for example - a neutral list of performances. What do you see there that is not neutral? I like the sentence "Simon Neal built up a substantial repertoire while a member of Theater Dortmund's ensemble from 2006 - 2011." That spares a lot of individual opera names if it can be used. It sounds neutral and independent to me. - He would be mentioned in GLS had he performed earlier ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I think that quote was written by either a PR talent agent who counts Neal as their client or by the marketing team on staff at Oper Frankfurt, so I don't think we can or should use that quote. Critical assessment needs to come from an independent writer like a critic or academic, not from PR machine created document. I'm not going to get in a back and forth with you on this. You need to reduce the number of citations to non-independent promotional sources, and replace them with independent publications or we can reject the hook. Put in the work to fix it if you want this hook approved.4meter4 (talk) 21:53, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't care if this goes to DYK, - as I said, I already regret to have nominated. I'll keep working on adding more refs, but not today, - close to midnight. We will have to disagree about the sentence. I think it describes well, in no promotional tone, what about every singer will do in his first engagement. I'll remove it to please you, because - as you know - I hate these tags. - You have still not told me if you saw anything questionable in the Oper Frankfurt entry, nor if we can use the interview for personal things like at what age he began, which probably nobody can know better than the person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the fact that I tagged it with a "better source" needed, and spent a considerable amount time explaining why theatre bios are not independent sources and that materials written by PR agents should be avoided wherever possible (by that I mean as a last resort). I strongly encourage you to get out of the habit of using these types of sources altogether per WP:NIS. It's fine as a reference point while doing a search for better materials while building an article (such as to learn what they sang where so you can find a review in an independent source) or for using as an external link like IBDB or IMDB, but what makes it in the actual article as a cited source really should be independent materials. If there is a certain fact that you can't support elsewhere it's ok to use these minimally; but by minimal I mean like only two or three sentences of content supported by this type of reference across the entire article; not sixteen citations supporting entire paragraphs of text. Most of what you are supporting with these sources should be supportable through other materials. You can (and must for DYK purposes) dig through German newspaper and opera/classical music magazines and replace the PR materials with independent ones.4meter4 (talk) 23:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Understood. Understood before you repeated it. Did you see that I moved two already to external links and commented out much of the other uses? - I'll see for what I can find sources, and then bring back, but it will take time, - I have a Bach cantata waiting for Sunday. - You still didn't answer if the interview can be used as a ref for personal matters, and if you saw anything promotional in the Oper Frankfurt entry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:37, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I thinks its fine to use it to source non-controversial biographical material per WP:ABOUTSELF.4meter4 (talk) 00:30, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Nope. I'm hoping Gerda can locate better sources about this singer, because currently there is nothing in the references used that is particularly interesting/unique.4meter4 (talk) 01:18, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Firstly, I am not even interested in a DYK (said above). Secondly, before I can turn to him, I have a Bach cantata (for tomorrow) and a recent death article (for asap) to deal with before turning to him. I think, 4meter4, that the "excessively" tag is no longer justified as it is, because only a few non-controversial facts have no other source right now, but will not take it away myself. I'll add that he appeared on stage of the Royal Opera House on a horse, but would not like such a trivial thing that only mentions his ability to ride, nothing of why he is called to great houses of the world, for a hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:42, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    And yet, riding a horse on the stage of the Royal Opera House is unique and interesting and far more hooky. The trivial is often the better choice at DYK unless the core facts themselves are exceptional which they are not in this case. I'll take a look at removing the tags once you tell me you are done editing so I don't have to keep checking back and forth. I suggest proposing the horse fact as a new hook at the same time. There is no reason not to let this get featured at DYK after you have put in so much work, and it appears you have found a fact of interest. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:03, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You can propose such hook, I will not, as explained ;) - I put the work into the article to get rid of shame, not for DYK. You can check the article right now, - I don't think "excessively" describes well the few instances of use for non-controversial facts. I may not get to expanding until next week. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I removed the tags as requested; although I still think the article lacks a clear independent source with WP:SIGCOV. I'm rejecting this as you have indicated you are not interested in featuring this at DYK or proposing a usable hook. That's your choice.4meter4 (talk) 14:36, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Update: I replaced all opera house refs by others, mostly reviews, some press releases. Some bits are still commented out (where the bios just mentions houses without details). Too tired for that tonight. As expected, the refs support what the houses wrote. He could go to DYK now, I think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    We just need a verifiable hook of interest. Please propose alt hooks below.4meter4 (talk) 21:42, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You can give it a start, I'm out today. Dr, Schön/Jack the Ripper is interesting (and I saw it). Le Grand Macabre is interesting (and I saw it). Pizarro and the horse seem less interesting to me because less unusual (and I didn't see it), but Beethoven is always good, - feel free to try. Out now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless the DYK is for an opera article, I don't think opera character or opera plot facts are appropriate for a DYK hook. The hook needs to be about Neal. I'm not finding any of the cited reviews of his performances particularly compelling to someone who doesn't know opera, nor his repertoire interesting to someone who isn't already an opera aficionado like you or I. The hook needs to target a general audience. I know it's not your favorite but the horse bit probably is the most interesting tid bit to the general public. I am proposing alt1 below. @Narutolovehinata5 please review this alt hook. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:53, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1: ... that baritone Simon Neal's performance as Don Pizarro in Beethoven's Fidelio included riding a horse on the stage of the Royal Opera House?
    edit conflict, I proposed at the same time:
    ALT0a: ... that when Simon Neal portrayed the double role of Dr. Schön and Jack the Ripper, a reviewer noted that he was convincing in the facets of his obsessive relationship to Lulu?
    ALT0b: ... that Simon Neal portrayed Nekrotzar, Le Grand Macabre in Ligeti's opera?
    for starting points. After edit conflict: I tried not even to focus on opera, to please you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:58, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I won't ping a favourite reviewer. For the horsy thing, can you express that he made his entrance on horse, to make it more impressive/interesting? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I like ALT1, although I wonder if it could have less links in order to encourage more readers to Neals' article. ALT0's variants are uninteresting to a broad audience and require knowledge about these specific roles (ALT1 is somewhat of a role hook, but the point is the horse riding and not the role itself, so it's not actually reliant on knowing Don Pizarro or Fidelio). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:28, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5 Gerda typically likes linking operas and opera houses in her noms on singers... I'm ok with it, but we could remove the wikilink to Fidelio (although Gerda may protest). Can we give Alt1 the approval tick? I think it is the best we can do with this article. I agree the other alts are not compelling.4meter4 (talk) 03:50, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't seen an actual full review of the article so far, so until that's done then ALT1 can't get the tick. I could do it later today. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:05, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Can you please explain why you are afraid of people clicking on Fidelio? With the bold article in front, why would they? ... and if, what would be wrong about that? If a link less is needed (and why, I don't understand, it's just a service for people seeking background by hovering over it, imho), better delink the opera house which is famous enough not to need a place name. - I like to mention (and better with a link) the operas because they characterise the singer. Hundreds of people have sung Pizarro, some two-digit number Dr. Schön, but for Nekrotzar, described as Le Grand Macabre (which should be interesting for any reader), he we are in one-digit territory.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not being afraid, it's wanting to make sure that people read Neal's article. Yes, I would be fine with delinking the opera house for the same reason. However, for the record, you may be overestimating the general population's familiarity with opera houses (most would probably only be able to name the Sydney Opera House and maybe the Met Opera). This is another recurring issue with you where you overestimate the hoi polloi's familiarity with what you know and you assume that what you know is well-known when that's not necessarily the case. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:42, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You didn't understand my point, sorry. I believe we can delink the house because people will be impressed by "Royal" (or not) without a link, without knowing it, just by sounding important. It doesn't matter much for the hook if the house is in London, Copenhagen or Stockholm. Fidelio, however, may be new to them, and a link can help them finding background. - Repeating: Nekrotzar is not only more rare then Fidelio, but also sounds more interesting, and I understand that DYK is content now with just an unusual name. Also: the hook is more concise and direct to the point. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Cindy (singer)

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    Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 74 past nominations.

    ミラP@Miraclepine 15:36, 24 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Tommy Cronin

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    • ... that after playing in the NFL, Tommy Cronin worked in the dairy business?
    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 305 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:18, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • I think this is filed erroneously under Feb 17 noms, as this was promoted on Feb 18. Regardless, the nomination is within the grace period and accepted without concern. The GA promotion is good, with no issues regarding plagiarism and images. The hook is cited and sourced, but I worry that it is not particularly interesting. Perhaps borrow some of the enthusiastic quotations from the article to help jazz this up? Other than that, get the QPQ done and we're good! ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • A bunch of potential options – just throwing out everything that struck me as a possibility:
      • ALT1 ... that Tommy Cronin didn't "know what 'quit' means"?
      • ALT2 ... that Tommy Cronin, one of "the classiest basketball players who ever donned a high school uniform," played in the NFL?
      • ALT3 ... that Tommy Cronin was described as having "made a name for himself" in the NFL, yet did not play in more than five games?
      • ALT4 ... that Tommy Cronin was the last person from his high school to play in the NFL – in 1922? or ALT5 ... that Tommy Cronin was the last person from his school to play in the NFL – in 1922?
      • ALT6 ... that Tommy Cronin played both basketball and football in high school, college, and professionally?
    • Do any of those sound good? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:03, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on February 19

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    Gerry Snyder

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    Moved to mainspace by Muboshgu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 542 past nominations.

    – Muboshgu (talk) 02:20, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Mostly looks good, although there's two things I note: (1) you still have an "under construction" tag on the article – are you finished with it or no?; (2) you'll need to provide a source for the sentence He was also vice chairman of the Montreal Executive Committee. Otherwise should be good. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Samurai Shokai

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    • ... that the proprietor of the Samurai Shokai company added a tower to the building resembling that of a castle?
    • Source: "Mr Yōzō, matching the name of Samurai that he chose, built a proudly towering, beautiful building at Honchō Itchōme of Yokohama; the part over the entrance resembles the tower of a castle", Almanac of successful Yokohama merchants and entrepreneurs translated and quoted in https://doi.org/10.1093/jhc/fhn013
    • ALT1: ... that the proprietor of the Samurai Shokai company promoted the foreign practice of shaking hands in Japan? Source: "It was his custom to greet each of the guests with a cheerful smile and a shake of the hand... Although the handshake was, of course, a custom he acquired while living abroad, he had his own interpretation and convictions concerning the gesture. In a collection of essays entitled Life in a Handshake, he once wrote..." Shiraishi, Bon.  Japan Quarterly; Tokyo Vol. 13, Iss. 4, (Oct 1, 1966): 507.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hawaii series by Georgia O'Keeffe
    Moved to mainspace by MartinPoulter (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

    MartinPoulter (talk) 16:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Big Three (World War II)

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    The Big Three at Tehran Conference: Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill
    The Big Three at Tehran Conference: Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill
    Converted from a redirect by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 548 past nominations.

    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:13, 19 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    You want "Converted from a redirect" instead of "Created", such at The World's Biggest Gang Bang III – The Houston 620. I've updated this.--Launchballer 12:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on February 20

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    Wayne Davenport

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    Davenport, c. 1925
    Davenport, c. 1925
    • ... that in a six-year span, Wayne Davenport (pictured) went from playing college football to coaching football, returning to college, playing in the NFL, returning to coaching and then back to college football?
    • Source: explained in article - played for Hardin-Simmons in 1928, coached HS in 1929, returned to Hardin-Simmons in 1930, played in the NFL in 1931, coached in 1932, then returned to college football in 1933
    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 308 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:17, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Codex Campianus

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    Improved to Good Article status by Stephen Walch (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Stephen Walch (talk) 18:25, 22 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Jorge Munoz (American football)

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    Created by JTtheOG (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    JTtheOG (talk) 09:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Also pinging BeanieFan11 for possible hook suggestions as ALT1 seems marginally interesting to me at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    From a quick glance (looking at the ALT0 hook), maybe something like ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz is an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. I've modified it to say "American football" instead for the benefit of our non-North American readership. Pinging JTtheOG for their thoughts on the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I definitely agree that BeanieFan11's suggestion is easier to understand than my original hook. JTtheOG (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11 and JTtheOG: Thanks! Just one last thing. The current wording could be challenged by other editors per WP:DYKHOOK (the "unlikely to change" criterion). It's true now, but there's a chance it could change before promotion/running. A more future-proof wording may be needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz served as an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That looks great to me. Would it be considered bad form to do a piped link to Desormeaux? JTtheOG (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's optional. Ideally we try to avoid too many blue links in a hook to prevent viewership diversion, but it might not be harmful in this case. I'll leave it to you, and if there are any objections those can be sorted out in prep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    In that case, I am fine with omitting the additional link. I suppose readers may click on the Munoz link or the reference for more information. JTtheOG (talk) 19:44, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I appreciate your help, as this is my first DYK nom. JTtheOG (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Miller, Brody (May 29, 2022). "Louisiana football has reached new heights, but plenty of upside remains for Ragin' Cajuns". The Athletic. Archived from the original on February 21, 2025. Maybe the most interesting addition is yet another person familiar with Lafayette, and that is new associate head coach and tight ends coach Jorge Munoz. Munoz previously spent 10 years at Louisiana coaching various positions, including being Desormeaux's quarterbacks coach. It was actually Munoz who brought Desormeaux on staff as running backs coach in 2016 when Munoz was offensive coordinator.
    2. ^ "UL's Munoz promoted to offensive coordinator". The Daily Advertiser. February 5, 2016. For Desormeaux, working with his old mentor may mean as much as being back on campus.
    3. ^ Brents, Phillip (September 10, 1994). "Apaches are at bottom looking up". The Star-News. p. A6 – via Newspapers.com. Open access icon


    Articles created/expanded on February 21

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    Slick Lollar

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    • ... that the "Slicker" "performed so well at cracking skulls"?
    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 309 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    King Faisal Street (Amman)

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    King Faisal Street in Amman, 1950
    King Faisal Street in Amman, 1950
    Created by Makeandtoss (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 44 past nominations.

    Makeandtoss (talk) 14:58, 23 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • In running DYKcheck on this, it is reported as not passing the length requirement / is classified as a stub even through it appears to. Am unsure if I can contradict / override DYKcheck and so will mark as "maybe" for the moment. Maximilian775 (talk) 03:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The article being classed as a stub should not be an issue for DYK purposes (and if an article is long enough to qualify for DYK, it is not a stub and the article should be reassessed). DYKcheck only gives yellow for me so I'm not sure what's going on here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Maximilian775: @Narutolovehinata5: Updated it to B class. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:44, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Christ's Entry into Jerusalem (Haydon)

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    Christ's Entry Into Jerusalem has hung in this chapel atrium since 1961.
    Christ's Entry Into Jerusalem has hung in this chapel atrium since 1961.
    Created by Maximilian775 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

    Maximilian775 (talk) 00:19, 22 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • New enough, large enough, Earwig checks out, article generally well looks good. The "like a wet blanket" line isn't in the article, though. There's a lot of great hook material in here - maybe something about him having Newton, Wordsworth, and Volatire in the scene set far before they were born, or the caricatures of his self-promotion? Rusalkii (talk) 03:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Just confirmed that the line is in the article. Look to the direct left of the "Burma gets aid" headline on the same newspaper page. Maximilian775 (talk) 04:34, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Maximilian775 I meant that it isn't the wikipedia article. My understanding is that all DYK hooks must use information fully contained in the article. Rusalkii (talk) 22:12, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Incorporated wet blanket phrase into article. Maximilian775 (talk) 23:04, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on February 23

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    Accomplishment of Fudanshi Bartender

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    • Source: Shūkan TV Guide [ja] (link): ドラマは、なる粉氏の同名コミックを原作に映像化され、2021年12月に台湾で先行放送された。
    Created by Lullabying (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 63 past nominations.

    lullabying (talk) 05:00, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on February 24

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    Erlitou, Ling (bell)

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    • Source: Xu, Hong (2013). "The Erlitou Culture". In Underhill, Anne P. (ed.). A Companion to Chinese Archaeology. Blackwell Publishing. doi:10.1002/9781118325698. ISBN 9781444335293. p. 313
    Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

    Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:06, 4 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Fatema Al Harbi

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    Moved to mainspace by 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C439:9C40:594F:1080 (talk), ForsythiaJo (talk), and Schwede66 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 169 past nominations.

    Schwede66 21:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Grand Husseini Mosque

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    Protest in front of the Grand Husseini Mosque in Amman, 1969
    Protest in front of the Grand Husseini Mosque in Amman, 1969
    • ... that the Grand Husseini Mosque has been serving as a starting point for Amman's political demonstrations (pictured) for nearly a century?
    Created by Makeandtoss (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.

    Makeandtoss (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Fadel al-Utol

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    • ... that Fadel al-Utol considers preserving Gaza's archaeological sites to be a way to peacefully "resist the Israeli occupation"?
    Created by Richard Nevell (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

    Richard Nevell (talk) 20:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Kanailal Sarkar (West Bengal politician)

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    • Source: Who's who 1972: General Election, March 1972. West Bengal Legislative Assembly Secretariat, 1974. p. 76
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 424 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 15:33, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on February 25

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    Abseil rack

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    Created by Kingsmasher678 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Holy Cross Church (Marion County, Kentucky)

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    This 1823 church replaced the 1792 building and was constructed on Hayden's land.
    This 1823 church replaced the 1792 building and was constructed on Hayden's land.
    Created by Maximilian775 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

    Maximilian775 (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • The hook is complicated and I don't see how the mention of Basil Hayden whiskey adds to the hook (and in any case that part may not meet WP:DYKINT anyway since readers may not be familiar with that brand and the mention seems non-essential). Suggesting some trimmed versions:
    ALT1 ... that the construction of Holy Cross Church, the first Catholic church west of the Allegheny Mountains, was organized by an alcoholic priest?
    ALT2 ... that the construction of Holy Cross Church in Kentucky was organized by an alcoholic priest?
    ALT3 ... that the Holy Cross Church in Kentucky was built on land donated by the namesake of a whiskey company?
    I've also taken the liberty of changing "building" to "construction" to avoid confusion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:47, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's playing on irony, making the hook more interesting. Maximilian775 (talk) 18:51, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It probably wouldn't fly per WP:DYKTRIM, and the extra details are likely to only make the reader more confused or disinterested than interested. The original hook has been struck. Each of the details could probably work as standalone hooks (I've also proposed an ALT3 that mentions just the whiskey company), but combined together the hook seems unwieldy and complex. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:10, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT4 "... that Holy Cross Church, the first Catholic church west of the Allegheny Mountains, was built on land donated by the namesake of Basil Hayden whiskey?" How's this Maximilian775 (talk) 23:37, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    A bit on the wordy side (and I'm not convinced that Basil Hayden needs to be mentioned by name), but I guess we can let the reviewer decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Considering that Hayden not only donated the land, but also was functionally the leader of the early Kentucky settlers, along with the cultural import that the bourbon industry has in this part of the state, I find it appropriate. I appreciate your -- if grudging -- allowance for at least two of the three connections I wanted to make in this DYK to remain. Maximilian775 (talk) 16:21, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    To make things clear: the mention of Hayden (by name) for you is non-negotiable? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:22, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I wouldn't nessecarily say that. I'm working to compromise, and this revised hook is substantially shorter than my initial one. ALT3 natually raises a question of "who", and per WP:DYKINT's statements of "we want people to see the new articles our volunteers have put time and effort into crafting" (which I think easily applies not just to DYK articles but articles concerning the topic / related items more broadly) and "Make sure to provide any necessary context for your hook; don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject" -- having a mention and a hyperlink of Hayden does also provide more context for the hook.
    If the shortening of the hook at the expense of the above is a non-negotiable to you, then I suppose I could be fine with ::ALT5 ... that the Holy Cross Church in Kentucky was built on land donated by the namesake of a brand of whiskey? (Slight modification in that BH is a brand owned by a company, not a company itself. I think I made that typo, my apologies. Maximilian775 (talk) 18:29, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I have two concerns about it. Not only do I think that the mention of the brand itself is unnecessary in this case, but I feel that linking might divert readers away from the church's article. I understand that you seem to really want the mention of the whiskey brand to be there but it might not be the safest option in this case. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:38, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I acknowledge that you have personal concerns about it. However, I don't see how any part of alt5 (edited and re-numbered for our clarity) violates any part of WP:DYK. Unless there is an express violation of those guidelines in alt5 (Which, mind you, is verbatim a hook that you yourself proposed, with the simple addition of a hyperlink), I see no reason for my version of alt5 to be modified. Maximilian775 (talk) 16:28, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm just curious: is there a particular why you want Basil Hayden's to be linked or mentioned in particular and why you don't seem to be fond of the other options that aren't about it? Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·contributions) 08:22, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe I've explained that upthread -- and besides, this hook is 100% written by you, every word of it. I'm not sure what the issue is, but if there is one it's concerning the hook that *you* made. Maximilian775 (talk) 15:44, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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    Obe Wenig

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    Wenig, c. 1924
    Wenig, c. 1924
    • ... that NFL player Obe Wenig (pictured) was named an All-Pro even though he played only one game?
    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 316 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Cowboy Wheeler

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    • Reviewed: to do
    • Comment: Please give me a day or two to do the QPQ. This struck me as a potential good quirky hook, but if you don't think so I could try to develop some alt hooks.
    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 315 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:32, 5 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Paul Loudon

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    Loudon depicted as a "human battering ram"
    Loudon depicted as a "human battering ram"
    • ... that football player Paul Loudon (pictured) was described as a "human battering ram"?
    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 314 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Sammy Powers

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    • Source: GB Press Gazette ("The team ... was composed of hometown players. The only outsider was Sammy Powers")
    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 313 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 5 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    2024 Tallahassee tornadoes

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    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sanity Code
    • Comment: The source isn't the same as I used in the article but I can't be bothered to correct it as the information to verify the hook is present in both (both being database entries with a combined "event summary" for both present on both pages). This is both an improbable occurrence and a bit of a tongue twister, not quite one to April 1 levels, however. I don't think I want to wait for May 10 as a special occasion.
    Moved to mainspace by Departure– (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    Departure– (talk) 14:36, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • HTML document size: 101 kB
    • Prose size (including all HTML code): 9463 B
    • References (including all HTML code): 14 kB
    • Wiki text: 9651 B
    • Prose size (text only): 5569 B (864 words) "readable prose size"
    • References (text only): 1300 B

    The current version instead has the following stats:

    • HTML document size: 113 kB
    • Prose size (including all HTML code): 13 kB
    • References (including all HTML code): 23 kB
    • Wiki text: 14 kB
    • Prose size (text only): 8070 B (1257 words) "readable prose size"
    • References (text only): 2204 B

    I.e. this all looks more like an 1.5X expansion, not 5X. I am giving the nominator the chance to respond, but it seems like it would have to be rejected on those grounds alone. InformationToKnowledge (talk) 15:35, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Surro-Gate

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    • ... that the idea for the 'American Dad' episode "Surro-Gate" came from executive producer Kenny Schwartz, who had two children through IVF around the start of the episode’s production?
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    5x expanded by Oddballeditor1997 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Oddballeditor1997 (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Hardwired (Metallica song)

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    5x expanded by NegativeMP1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

    λ NegativeMP1 20:28, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    The Way We Talk (film)

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    Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 32 past nominations.

    —👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 16:36, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Khan, Nahnatchka. (2008). American Dad! volume 3 DVD commentary for the episode "Surro-Gate" (DVD). 20th Century Fox.
    2. ^ 鍾卓言 (2 February 2025). "拍好電影：聾人語言，聾人選擇——訪《看我今天怎麼說》導演黃修平、演員吳祉昊". Ming Pao (in Chinese). Retrieved 25 February 2025. 黃修平提到，鍾雪瑩雖懂得打手語，但為了演出劇中素恩初接觸手語時的初學者味道，便需要手語指導幫忙調整，例如如何刻意放大手語動作「打差啲」，角色手語如何隨劇情發展愈見流暢，甚至手語的男女之別，都需要兼顧。 [Adam Wong mentioned that although Chung Suet Ying knows sign language, she needed guidance to portray Sophie's beginner experience with sign language. This included intentionally exaggerating her sign language movements for "doing it worse", as well as ensuring that the character's signing became more fluid as the story progressed, while also considering the differences between male and female signing.]
    3. ^ 馬曼容 (23 January 2025). "有聲與無聲之間，皆出自於尊重──專訪《看我今天怎麼說》導演黃修平". Funscreen Weekly (in Chinese). Retrieved 25 February 2025. 其實鍾雪瑩自己的手語比素恩好，因為素恩在戲裡是從零開始，有些時候她要打得不熟，所以我們的手語指導也針對每一個不同聾人、不同角色的狀況，有不同的調整在裡面，比如說，初學手語的人，手會有一個慣性，手勢做得比較大，或是女生跟男生打的手語也不一樣。 [In fact, Chung Suet Ying's sign language skills are better than those of Sophie, as Sophie starts from scratch in the film and struggles with the signs sometimes. Therefore, our sign language instructor tailored the training for each different deaf character and their circumstances, making various adjustments. For example, beginners tend to use larger gestures due to a certain habit, and the way females and males sign can also differ.]
    4. ^ 龐芷嵐 (18 February 2025). "導演黃修平：「當我找到自己而我去做自己時，那個價值是大於一切。」". Ming Pao (in Chinese). Retrieved 25 February 2025. 由於廣東話和手語的邏輯不盡相同，原則上無法直接對譯。換言之不是所有文字劇本的字眼，在手語中也有一樣的形容:「比如有一句對白講『我永遠都達不到某個目標』，手語指導Kim說『永遠』這個字譯作手語時是很重的，真的在說一種本質上的『永恆』。對於戲內初學手語的素恩，這個字也比較難。最後我們改用『一直以來』，而不是『永遠』。」「我覺得好有趣。原來用口語或文字時，我們都忘記了大部分時候講『永遠』都不是真的在說那個『永恆』，千秋萬載的『永遠』。有時可能只是『經常』的意思，更像是一個metaphor（比喻）。某些時候我會覺得，手語是能更加準確地，表現到一些事情的性質和真象的。」 [Due to the differences in logic between Cantonese and sign language, direct translations are essentially impossible. In other words, not every phrase in the screenplay has an equivalent expression in sign language. For example, there is a line that says, "I am not going to reach a certain goal forever". The sign language instructor, Kim[berly Wu], explained that the word "永遠" (forever) carries a literal meaning in sign language, truly expressing a sense of "eternity". For the character Sophie, who is a beginner in sign language, this word is also quite challenging. Ultimately, we changed it to "一直以來" (all along) instead of "永遠". "I find it very interesting. When we use spoken or written language, we often forget that most of the time when we say "forever", we are not really referring to that "eternity" that lasts for ages. Sometimes it might just mean "often", and these are more like metaphors. At times, I feel that sign language can express the nature and essence of things more accurately."]
    5. ^ 莫匡堯 (21 February 2025). "看我今天怎麼說訪問｜鍾雪瑩靠睇口型入戲 游學修手語流利講對白". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 25 February 2025. 吳祉昊提到老師向黃修平介紹自己時，以「好Chok」作為形容，背後全因2023年，吳祉昊因為替補無法請假抽空的老師，參加香港參加世界聾人選美比賽，並獲得該屆冠軍及最上鏡先生！ [Marco Ng mentioned that when the teacher introduced him to Adam Wong, he described him as "very chok", because in 2023, he participated in the Mister Deaf World on behalf of the teacher who could not take leave, winning both the championship and the Best Photogenic award!]
    6. ^ Wong, Gary (23 February 2025). "【專訪】《看我今天怎麼說》導演黃修平". Film Pilgrimage (in Chinese). Retrieved 24 February 2025. 電影同時也強調生活感，所以某些較本土味道的場景也很自然地走了出來，例如星街社區的德如茶餐廳和基隆街的強記大排檔。這些場景除了切合電影要求的生活質感外，同時也具備功能性和象徵意義。「譬如大排檔，正正就係因為聾人，嘈雜嘅環境有佢哋嘅優勢 [The film also emphasizes a sense of realism, and certain more localized scenes were naturally included, such as the Tak Yu Restaurant in the Starstreet Precinct and the Keung Kee Dai Pai Dong on Ki Lung Street. These scenes not only fit the film’s requirement for a realistic texture of life but also possess functionality and symbolic meaning. "For instance, at dai pai dongs (street-side food stalls), deaf people can demonstrate their advantages because of the noisy environment."]
    7. ^ 馬曼容 (23 January 2025). "有聲與無聲之間，皆出自於尊重──專訪《看我今天怎麼說》導演黃修平". Funscreen Weekly (in Chinese). Retrieved 25 February 2025. 起源是在五年前，我的編劇思言給我看一個短片劇本，短短的，但裡面有一個場面是一群聾人在海底潛水打手語，我覺得這個場面描寫得很美妙，在打手語的聾人，潛水的時候有他們的遊戲，他們溝通的狀況和能力，跟我們用聽人的方式來看，彷彿已經互調過來了，這個場面我覺得很迷人。初衷不是要拍這個題材，是因為這個場面，所以我跟編劇談，他告訴我有一種東西叫聾人文化。 [The origin of this project dates back five years when my screenwriter, SeeKing, showed me the screenplay of a short film. It was brief, but there was a scene depicting a group of deaf people signing underwater while diving. I found this scene beautifully described; the deaf individuals signing underwater, communicating and playing, seemed to shift our perspective from that of hearing individuals. I found this scene very enchanting. The initial intention was not to make a film on this topic; it was solely because of this scene that I spoke with the screenwriter, who told me about something called deaf culture.]
    8. ^ 龐芷嵐 (18 February 2025). "手語指導海鳥：「手語是我的母語，是我的語言。」". Ming Pao (in Chinese). Retrieved 25 February 2025. 前面提到，游學修所飾演的子信出身聾人家庭，打的是不從口語邏輯的「自然手語」。手語指導海鳥作為游學修的手語老師，在電影放映前亦有憂慮：「很怕有聾人觀眾會說『這根本不是自然手語來的』、『找聾人去演不就好了』之類的話。但我事前很嚴格地訓練了他（游學修），所以我也有點期待。」 [As previously mentioned, the character played by Neo Yau, Wolf, was born deaf from a deaf household and uses "natural sign language", which does not follow the logic of spoken languages. The sign language instructor, Seabird, expressed concerns before the film's release: "I was worried that deaf audiences would say, 'This is not natural sign language at all,' or 'Why not just cast deaf actors?' However, I trained him (Neo Yau) [on this] rigorously beforehand, so I was also a bit excited."]
    9. ^ "看我今天怎麽說｜陳蕾學手語跟72位學生拍主題曲MV 游學修鍾雪瑩勾拍戲回憶". am730 (in Chinese). 15 February 2025. Retrieved 24 February 2025. 陳蕾不單在戲中客串演自己，也跟一班中學生齊齊拍《What If》MV，並特地學習以手語演繹歌詞。 [Panther Chan not only makes a cameo as herself in the film, but she also appears in the music video for "What If" alongside a group of secondary school students, and specifically learning sign language to deliver the lyrics [in the video].]

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    The Wizard of Oz (1939 album)

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    Created by Moscow Connection (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

    Moscow Connection (talk) 23:59, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Endgame (Scobie book)

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    Created by Keivan.f (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 282 past nominations.

    Launchballer 22:49, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Climate change in Antarctica

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    Improved to Good Article status by InformationToKnowledge (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    InformationToKnowledge (talk) 15:45, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Dam (song)

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    – Relayed (t • c) 13:59, 5 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    NBACentel

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    Created by Soulbust (talk) and TSwanyIRL (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

    🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 13:59, 1 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Sharin-seki

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    4th-century sharin-seki (Metropolitan Museum of Art)
    4th-century sharin-seki (Metropolitan Museum of Art)
    Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 67 past nominations.

    Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 20:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Ehenneden

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    • Source: Ọmọregie, Osarẹn Solomon Boniface (1997). Great Benin: The age of Ogiso Reform (c. 1050 – c. 1130). Neraso Publishers. ISBN 978-2734-47-0. OCLC 634055155. p. 66. "Ogiso market (now Agbado) expanded in trade volume; and the use of coweries as currency was widely developed."
    Created by Vanderwaalforces (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:39, 7 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Embassy of the Philippines, Pretoria

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    Chancery of the Philippine embassy in Pretoria
    Chancery of the Philippine embassy in Pretoria
    • Source: "Philippine officials in South Africa cried fowl over an article published in a newspaper there about a foreigner's experience in a horse-fighting tournament in Bukidnon. [...] In response to the article, Ambassador to South Africa Virgilio Reyes, Jr. wrote the editor of the Cape/Weekend Argus and informed him that the Philippine government does not tolerate cruelty to animals." —GMA News and Public Affairs
    • Reviewed: [[ Doing...]]
    Created by Sky Harbor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 56 past nominations.

    Sky Harbor (talk) 23:05, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Genora Johnson Dollinger

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    Created by CaptainAngus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    CaptainAngus (talk) 02:36, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Thank you for your review! The reason for the (extremely) high similarity score is the large block quote in the middle of the article (which is correctly attributed to the source you're pointing out). I always assumed things like that were 'manually accounted' for when running earwig, and the only way I could really lower the score would be to remove the quote. Unless I'm overlooking another option? I'll take any advice on this issue. Thanks! CaptainAngus (talk) 00:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Jimena Sánchez (queen)

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    • Source: Margarita Torres Sevilla and José Miguel Ortega del Río, Kings of the Grail: Tracing the Historica Journey of the Holy Grail from Jerusalem to Spain (Michael O'Mara Books, 2015), p. 100.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Inner Cambodia
    • Comment: The source I offer is (a) accessible online, (b) in English and (c) written by experts in medieval Spanish royalty and nobility, so the highly questionable thesis of the book is not, I think, relevant to it as RS.
    Created by Mychele Trempetich (talk) and Srnec (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

    Srnec (talk) 02:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • At a glance everything looks sourced (will do a spotcheck soon enough) but is this hook really interesting? It boils down in my eyes to "a king took power and arranged a marriage" at first glance. I think either making it clear that the king was out of power and adding chronological context would be great, or having another fact from the article as hook - the one that stood out to me in the article was the length of the prose about her tomb - there's probably a good hook to be made in there somewhere. Departure– (talk) 20:59, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Joe Biden's presidential campaigns

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    Official portrait of Biden, 2021
    Official portrait of Biden, 2021
    5x expanded by OlifanofmrTennant (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:04, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Oris Aigbokhaevbolo

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    • ... that in 2024, Oris Aigbokhaevbolo was included among influential people in the Nigerian film industry?
    Moved to mainspace by Rema36 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 429 past nominations.

    SL93 (talk) 22:47, 1 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Anne Woods (gurner)

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    5x expanded by Cielquiparle (talk) and Edwardx (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 337 past nominations.

    Edwardx (talk) 14:15, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Noriko Takaya

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    • Source: [23]
    • Sources for ALT2: [24], [25]
    • Source for ALT3: Yamaguchi, Hiroshi (1988). トップをねらえ! FILM COMIC 1 [Aim for the Top! Film Comic 1] (in Japanese). Bandai (published October 30, 1988). ISBN 4-89189-362-1.
    • Sources for ALT4: [26], [27]
    • Source for ALT5: [28]
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    Improved to Good Article status by Z. Patterson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Z. Patterson (talk) 19:21, 2 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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    Margot Dias

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    • Source: West, Harry G. (2004). "Inverting the camel's hump - Jorge Dias, his wife, their interpreter and I". In Handler, Richard (ed.). Significant others: interpersonal and professional commitments in anthropology. Madison, Wisconsin: University of Wisconsin Press. pp. 51–90.
    • ALT1: ... that Margot Dias never completed her book on the sculpture and music of the Makonde people? Source: Canelas, Lucinda (6 August 2016). "Margot Dias: Viver até ao fim entre os macondes". PÚBLICO (in Portuguese).
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pop_(Gas_album)
    • Comment: New article on a self-taught ethnologist, whose work has only been fully appreciated towards the end of her life and even much later.
    Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 28 past nominations.

    Munfarid1 (talk) 10:20, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Article 5 contingency (2001)

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    Gen. Tommy Franks
    Gen. Tommy Franks
    Created by Chetsford (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 158 past nominations.

    Chetsford (talk) 21:26, 4 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Matt Flynn Game

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    « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:02, 3 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Hong Wang (mathematician)

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    Hong Wang in 2024
    Hong Wang in 2024
    Created by EleniXDD (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    EleniXDD※Talk 03:53, 5 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    @EleniXDD: You are free to withdraw a nomination at any point; ALT0 could probably be solved by attributing, such as ALT0a: ... that a recent paper by Hong Wang claims to have solved a conjecture subsequently described as "one of the most sought-after open problems in geometric measure theory"? You'll need to add Terence Tao's quote to the article though. Let me know what you want to do; I may adopt this.--Launchballer 12:06, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Launchballer:Thanks so much for the thoughtful solution! The alternative approach sounds perfect—I'll definitely go with that. EleniXDD※Talk 13:48, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tenpop421:No, I have decided not to withdraw and have made the changes as suggested by Launchballer. EleniXDD※Talk 01:16, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Gold Top Nuts

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    Oddballeditor1997 (talk) 17:04, 4 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Migration background

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    Moondragon21 (talk) 01:51, 4 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Closures of the University of Wisconsin branch campuses

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    University of Wisconsin–Platteville Richland campus, which was closed in 2023
    University of Wisconsin–Platteville Richland campus, which was closed in 2023
    • Source: "UW system officials have closed or announced plans to close five other two-year branch campuses around the state since 2023, including UW-Oshkosh’s campus in Fond du Lac. " [29]
    Moved to mainspace by JackFromWisconsin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 01:54, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - I'm inclined to say these don't really clear WP:DYKINT, since they aren't what I would personally call intriguing or something that prompts readers to want to know more and read more of the article itself, although I can see a case for 5 University campuses being close in less than 2 years being unusual.
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: The article itself is fine and meets the criteria, my main concern is whether this meets WP:DYKINT, as mentioned above. If we can't come up with anything else, and if someone else agrees I would be, fine, with promoting these, but I think there's likely a bit of room to try something else, I think likely from Closures of the University of Wisconsin branch campuses#Reactions and aftermath. --PixDeVl (T | C | G) 04:11, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for your review. I will try to come up with something else for the hook. --JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 05:01, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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    Sekijin sekiba

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    Sekijin (ICP) from Iwatoyama Kofun (Tokyo National Museum)
    Sekijin (ICP) from Iwatoyama Kofun (Tokyo National Museum)
    • Source: Kidder Early Japanese Art p. 92
    Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 68 past nominations.

    Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:38, 7 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Markus Graf

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    Flibirigit (talk) 08:18, 6 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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    American Samoa at the 2024 Summer Olympics

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    Arconning (talk) 15:23, 7 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    The holding area is near the top of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.

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