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I have also sent you mail as well regarding something I have noticed on my watchlist. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 22:56, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I saw! I even responded! Drmies (talk) 01:06, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November music

story · music · places

greetings from a trip -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Username

Tryptofish has brought you some footware. Anyway, happy holidays!

I just noticed DrMees. I can't tell if it's just a coincidence, or if the account has an ulterior motive in the choice of username. I figured I'd let you know about it, and you can decide whether or not it's an issue. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:05, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another possible sock

User:Iphone5Sgold [1] was recently indefed for years of unsourced and unproductive editing. A brand new editor, User:Giantmotion [2], has identical editing practices and came into existence just days after the original editor's indef ban. I have a feeling this is a case of socking, or if anything, WP:DUCK. Anwegmann (talk) 02:01, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go Irish

is what I think you meant ;-) Online if there's anything that needs actioning, reverting. Let me know. Star Mississippi 01:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh I think you know exactly what I meant. Surely you're old enough to remember the last few times that TD Jesus was asked to play the Tide, you know. But y'all doing better than we are this year... Hey Star, I actually watched some of the Egg Bowl yesterday. It's not Mississippi State's year, but I think I've been saying that for decades. I remember watching those games at my mother in law's house, on the old TV console, up near 72. Anywayz, I don't know. I dropped a query on ANI that you are welcome to look into. It's kind of quiet--but my saying that is probably going to make Recent Changes to crazy. Drmies (talk) 02:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • That Egg Bowl was something else. This weekend does lend itself to it. Glad your boys put away Auburn because, yuck. Tonight I find myself rooting orange because of a certain first year QB
      Have you read Rammer Jammer Yellow Jammer by Warren St. John? I read it recently and it really is a time gone by. I recommend it if you haven't, even though much of it won't be new to you.
      Will go look at the ANI thread. Thankfully some of the regulars seem to have found something else to do on this long weekend. Star Mississippi 02:15, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Star Mississippi, the book is in. ;) (Bama is out...) Drmies (talk) 13:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What a weird class of 12. Rivalries always make for some strange bedfellows, but playoffs even more. Like the old BCS Chaos days <3 Star Mississippi 19:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for all of the tedious admin work you do so much of! It's quite valuable to all of us and the Wiki as a whole. Sandcat555 (talk) 04:33, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suspicious edits?

I note you reverted a sock editor here and a new editor made a bunch of edits related to that same template - is that suspicious or am I being paranoid? BOZ (talk) 04:46, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indentation

(talk page watcher) Can I ask why people are using bullet points instead of colons to indent on your talk page? I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:01, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to provide feedback

Inspired by Worm That Turned's re-RfA where he noted administrators don't get a lot of feedback or suggestions for improvement, I have decided to solicit feedback. I'm reaching out to you as you are currently one of the users I've selected as part of my recall process. I hope you will consider taking a few moments to fill out my feedback form. Clicking on the link will load the questions and create a new section on my user talk. Thanks for your consideration. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:57, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BLP violation?

I saw your recent reverse-edits on Brian Krzanich and I thought I come to you to sort things out. Not here to argue or dispute, but I just want to know what's going on with the "BLP violation" you're referring to (something I did)? Darrion N. Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 18:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, yeah, the first part of the edit, "The news of his adjoining brought in renewed criticism toward him and backlash from detractors etc"--that cannot possibly come from the two sources that follow it, because the one is a press release from the company that hired him, and the other is a rehashed press release, and none of them (obviously) contain those damning words. The second part seems UNDUE to me in its repetition of things already mentioned. I have my doubts about the weight and applicability of that publication, Tom's Hardware, in BLP matters, and the second one, from that TrendForce website, seems to rephrase much of what was said in the Tom's article, and I just don't think that TrendForce, given what they say they are, should be used for (negative) BLP information. But I'm also wondering, given your regular contributions which is mostly to rappers' biographies, yeah, where did that edit come from? Drmies (talk) 18:57, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I found sources that I thought were legitimate or reliable to add to a piece of what I wanted to add it to. For example: Justin Combs was blacklisted from California property rentals due to his involvement with his father's "white parties"; here they are - [3] [4] - if I think they are good enough in my personal taste, I thought of including it somewhere. Hope you understand. I do not intend to violate anything in bad faith unknowingly. Darrion N. Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 19:36, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • But, again, to let you know, I know the moderate knowledge that all the sources are not BLP validated. Even if so, hopefully, you will never have to be disturbed by me violating the regulations every time I edit something here on WP. No issues with you. Crisis averted. Darrion N. Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 23:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • My question really is why you got interested in that article and where not only that impetus but also that information came from--in part because there are some differences with the way you usually cite, and in part because you've never edited articles like that before. Drmies (talk) 23:42, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        There are two reasons (even if you don't believe me):
        1 - I saw the Krzanich news years ago and thought it connected with #MeToo, because the news reports said so. I did not think it was unreliable or illegitimate if any.
        2 - I wanted to try to expand my edits outside of music and do something more freely, but only if real from somewhere I catch within.
        That's all. Darrion N. Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 01:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A kitten for you!

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Norvellshoodie (talk) 04:20, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:AnonymeperOnnnnn

I noticed you are currently active and was wondering if you could take a quick look at this guy. Keeps making the same edits that I'm pretty sure are vandalism, but I'm not certain. Thanks! SlightlyToastedCheesecake (talk) 21:54, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your deletion and edits on the Sonoma County, California page

Hi. Here are additional sources supporting the subsection that you deleted:

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/police-brutality-victim-dies-of-fentanyl-overdose/ https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/sonoma-county-jail-yard-counseling-case-settles-for-1-7-million/ https://kpfa.org/episode/flashpoints-june-8-2020/ https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/santa-rosa-to-pay-1-9-million-to-people-injured-during-george-floyd-protes/ https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/santa-rosa-police-fired-unauthorized-rounds-at-black-lives-matter-protester/ https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/anger-concern-mount-over-santa-rosa-police-use-of-rubber-bullets-other-le/ Isonomia01 (talk) 07:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please try to be collaborative, assume good faith (this is a collaborative project and assuming good faith is important), and productive. Please don't just randomly delete content without any notes or attempt at discussion. While I appreciate being challenged, the way you're going about it is inefficient, and is making extra work for me. Your challenge is not nearly as productive as fixing the "Cities by population and crime rates" tables in the article for example. Please participate in discussion. Please support your assertions or conclusions with arguments/logic and examples (i.e. your assertion in the edit summary of "non-neutral", and your assertion here: "sourcing wasn't the only problem", both of which are conclusory, controversial, and probably incorrect). Sourcing isn't a problem in the way you're saying it is. Thanks. I am familiar with the situation, and the statements I made were objective. However, I can appreciate you double-checking that the statements I make are clearly and indisputably supported by the sources that I've listed because (although I am being diligent about limiting my edits to those supported by sources that I list) I am writing (in part) based on my knowledge of the situation after years of research, including sources from the lawsuits, and statements made by public officials. I still need to learn how to list those sources correctly per Wikipedia protocols, but your proof-reading is appreciated. If you'd like to provide any specific examples of statements I made that were non-neutral, I'm happy to listen to feedback and take it into consideration. Ultimately, the fact that the victim of the 2015 torture ring victim being shot in the face with a crowd control "stingball" grenade while peacefully protesting on video is notable, and is properly sourced at this point.Isonomia01 (talk) 17:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Teaching grandma how to suck eggs comes to mind. Just sayin'... Geoff | Who, me? 18:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cryptic and irrelevant. Isonomia01 (talk) 18:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • To be fair, you should include the edits of Isonomia09 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). They were condescending and long-winded then, and they haven't changed in the interim.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bbb23, I understand your removal of the section on my userpage. I'm not sure if the edits I made and re-added are agreeable to you, but please feel welcome to discuss, or make productive and polite suggestions. If you have personal criticism for me, I will take it into consideration if you (1) provide me with specific examples for reference, and (2) are polite about it. For the record, I just don't want my content deleted (1) without prior discussion, (2) in violation of Wikipedia's rules (I'm not saying this happened all the time, not trying to get into an argument, I think that all the past issues have been settled and resolved, and I'm also not saying that anyone acted in bad faith), or (3) remove content without adequate explanation or a note on the talk page. Isonomia01 (talk) 20:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry. I thought you were calling me a talk page stalker, in conjunction with the grandma sucking eggs reference. My bad. Isonomia01 (talk) 20:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Isonomia01, lawsuits can be cited with {{cite court}}, but are considered Primary sources and must be used with caution. Statements from public officials can be cited with {{cite news}} or {{cite press release}}, depending on whether the statements were reported by the news media or simply originated from the public office in question. Folly Mox (talk) 18:59, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) @Bbb23: Wut? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you think the "newbie lecture" is interesting, you should see the redacted versions of their post to this talk page. Just sayin' -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Are you sure you mean me? You didn't indent this properly, so not sure. If you did, I have no idea how to answer. Maybe a little less pithy?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bbb23: Just pointing out the versions of OP's posts here that they removed. The wut was in reference to the prior account you references. That intrigued me. Thanks! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:00, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I prefer "talk page watcher." It's less alarming. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Deepfriedokra: Good point and thank you. I hadn't looked at the TPS article in a while and missed the use of TPW. Learn something every day, especially around our good friend Drmies' Talk page. It's never a dull moment around here. Geoff | Who, me? 20:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isonomia01, allow me a few notes. First of all, please use "Preview" before you hit "Publish edit" so that I don't get 25 talk page notifications instead of 6 or 7. Second, you dropped a bunch of URLs here without telling me what specifically you wanted me to do with that--well, I'm not going to do anything with them, because we're not on the article talk page, which is where you probably should have started this, and again, there are no specific statements here about things in the article and sources for it.

I believe you cited my edit summaries, so it should be clear that I didn't remove information randomly. This edit has only one possibly acceptable source, from KPFA--but it's an announcement/link for a radio show, so there is no actual information on that website to verify--plus, it's an interview with the person who got shot in the face, so that's hardly the same as a news report. The other two sources are just not acceptable for BLP information on a politically loaded topic. The whole thing looked very much not neutral to me. But again, this is what you should hash out on the talk page, with specific proposals for sections and sentences and their sources, not here.

Oh, I see now what you posted on the talk page, but it's not very clear to me: it's a lot of text and a lot of other...well, stuff, and it's not very organized to me. But what I also see is that both User:Willondon and User:Magnolia677 pointed out problems, and there is no consensus on anything--perhaps if you'd let the other editors know, they might have given their advice: both are very experienced editors. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 01:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That discussion is six months old (correction: it started a year and six months ago, and ended six months ago). Magnolia removed my section on the talk page where I originally neglected to cite sources. It's my impression that consensus was reached, because discussion ended when I provided sources. There were no disagreements after I provided sources. I will be more careful about proofreading before I hit submit. I will also try to start with sources, and then add proposed wording after I provide the sources, rather than start with proposed edits and wording first. In the future, if someone deletes my content without making any notes on the talk page, I will plan on tagging them on the talk page, rather than on their user talk page. Marqus Martinez (the man who was shot with the grenade) is no longer living. To reiterate what I said above, it is notable that the victim of the 2015 torture ring incident who organized the lawsuit was shot in the face with a crowd control grenade while filming himself peacefully protesting in 2020. The sources I provided above here meet Wikipedia's standards. Isonomia01 (talk) 01:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What I see is a discussion where two editors briefly commented on what you were saying followed by a lengthy section that no one responded to, and I think it's because that was added a lot later, without anyone being pinged. So no, you can't call that consensus: it's likely that neither knew there was something there. As for talk page/article talk page--if you want to call someone an asshole, their talk page is the place for it. If you want to propose text and sourcing, the article talk page is the way to go--but if you want consensus, you have to present things in a easily digestible method, with clear proposals for text and their sourcing, and in manageable chunks, not those long paragraphs. And you gotta let them know! I have no interest in covering up police brutality, and if the sources you linked above are good, go for it--but you gotta go about it somewhat carefully, with solid sources and neutral writing. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 01:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the very sad story of Marqus Martinez. Cullen328 (talk) 01:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wow--that's tragic. Thank you Cullen. Perhaps you can help with that article? Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 01:50, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is too emotional for me, Drmies. My parents lived in Sonoma County in the years before their deaths and owned a small apartment building there. I have visited there and worked there hundreds of times. I have many friends there. I would have trouble being neutral about this topic. By the way, we had a very well referenced article about Dominic Foppoli for 4-1/2 years until it was deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dominic Foppoli. One of the criticisms was "local coverage" although the Los Angeles Times covered Foppoli in detail and LA is 435 miles from Windsor. I did not learn about the AfD until the article was gone. Sad, really. Cullen328 (talk) 02:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, that AfD was close, Cullen. I have no doubt about your capability of staying neutral, though. Drmies (talk) 02:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

user:Bi fedakariya Gerillayên HPG'ê, êzdî ji nû ve ji dayik bón ŞENGAL

That's Piermark JayCubby 02:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've indeffed, so no further action may be necessary. JayCubby 02:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, yes I saw that after I blocked, and I blocked because there was another IP making the same bullshit edits. User:JayCubby, sorry, but please make your signature MOS:COLOR compliant? I can't see your name, that blue on black, or black on blue, I can't read it. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:09, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should be fixed now. I initially couldn't figure out how to get the link color to change, but thanks to another user I've figured out what went wrong. JayCubby 02:23, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes, thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ChatGPT couldn't figure it out, so I had to think for myself. Trying times in which we live! JayCubby 02:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see now there's a whole bunch of such socks. How irritating, and sad. Drmies (talk) 02:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of possible interest

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rugendow I noticed a message on Widr's talk page and responded before having a look at the OP's record. Hmmm...-Ad Orientem (talk) 04:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flagpedia.net

Drmies, I’m Yuanmongolempiredynasty, creator of Flagpedia.net. There is a reason that there are not many references. Flagpedia is not a very famous company, even though it has many users. There are no other websites I could find and there are no books or news articles about the company. Did you at least look at the references? I’ll try my best to find more references but those are the only ones I could find.

P.S. The YouTube one was supposed to be their channel, but it didn’t link. Yuanmongolempiredynasty (talk) 12:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i need your help about a page full of pseudo-history

hello Drmies,

first of all apologies if i annoyed you about the Ustad Ahmad Lahori page,

most information on him comes from a single untrustworthy source written by his son that doesnt match with other mughal records,

the nature of work from that era is ignored and the entire page is based on myths upon myth and manipulated sources,

i took some effort to go in-depth and i wrote a pretty in-depth well-sourced explanation on the talk page Talk:Ustad Ahmad Lahori titled "a refutation of the myths about ustad ahmad lahori's role as the chief architect of shahjahan and the nature of his work as described in his old wikipedia"


if you feel my writing habits suck, maybe you are better and we can write it up better to replace the present version that takes in account only myth and goes against the traditions and records of that era, while also ignoring the work of the best academic alive on that topic.

it would be a great help if you could be kind to me and help me resolve it,

my concerns are genuine against pseudo-history and not in bad faith. Goshua55 (talk) 21:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think your writing sucks, and I've already responded to your talk page note, where I said you need to take smaller steps. I think you should start by indicating, briefly, which sources you do think are authoritative, rather than going the other way around, with this mythology based on poor sources. Poor sources need to be removed, and I just did that for three or four of them, and content needs to be written based on good sources--but that can be done one step at a time. Please continue this on the talk page. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 21:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Goshua55 started a DRN thread over this, so as per procedure,

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