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Nomination of Nolan Sanburn for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nolan Sanburn is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Marlins–Rays rivalry Citrus Series

This page doesn't match our record on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Citrus Series (2nd nomination) this is different despise that by you telling that you are claiming this information redirected so no need to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by More Least (talk • contribs) 01:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Show Me Series Cardinals vs Royals rivalry

This page doesn't match our record on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cardinals–Royals rivalry (3rd nomination) this is different despise that by you telling that you are claiming this information redirected so no need to do that. More Least (talk) 01:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bypassing community consensus on AfDs is not good. Neither is sockpuppetry or gaming the system to become autoconfirmed. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:22, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Brad Knott

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Concern regarding Draft:Pat Harrigan

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HJ

Hi, Muboshgu. I saw you reverted my additions to the article as UNDUE (which I mostly agree with). I've appreciated our prior interactions and wanted to get a bit of advice here. The content I added was copied from the 2023–24 U.S. House legislative coalition. I left it mostly intact because I was under the impression that's necessary if I'm copying content from another article to leave it for attribution and cut it down? Seems like that may be the wrong approach and I should approach it in a more piecemeal manner? Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 13:47, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Piecemeal is better rather than such a large amount of text. I question if any of that is relevant for the biography. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:59, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will take it piece by piece. Busy during the week with my actual job but should have time over the weekend. I think if it becomes too UNDUE, a page about his leadership might eventually make sense but only after the text is reworked to be about him (so it doesn't duplicate the other article about the session). Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 00:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PROD

Hi there. You declined my PROD based on your misinterpretation of what I meant by saying only Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Florida is commonly described as an assassination attempt, so it only seems fair for it to be reconsidered based on what I actually intended. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neveselbert, incorrect. I don't have to give a reason for removing a PROD, but if you go to AfD, I will vote to keep as there is WP:NOPRIMARY topic. Keep in mind that per WP:PROD, it may only be placed on a page a single time regardless of why it is removed. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:59, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no primary topic, then why does Attempted assassination of Donald Trump redirect to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Florida? The reason you gave was based on your own misunderstanding of the PROD. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not know it redirected there. It would make more sense for that redirect to be the location of the disambiguation page. Again, there is no primary topic for a Trump assassination attempt, as it could be Pennsylvania or Florida. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:05, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In which case, can you move Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) over to the base name, please? ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:40, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that was discussed at User_talk:SilverLocust#Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_(disambiguation). It would probably be best to check in with the closers. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:50, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Death hoaxer strikes again

Hi, Muboshgu. After checking out 2804:14D:AE90:814A:BC14:E0F6:E8CA:F612's contributions, I was kind of surprised that you only gave them 60 hours off. Isn't every single edit extremely disruptive, and of BLP's, no less? Is it that they have access to so many IPs that a long block would be pretty pointless, or something like that? Bishonen | tålk 19:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Bishonen, it was just two weeks ago that I made a IPv6 range block that was called out for being too long (#Your block of 2600:1008::/32 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial))). I was told there could be too much collateral damage, and also yes, they may be using a proxy so they'll likely come back on a different IP. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Surely there won't be any collateral damage on a /64 — it's much different from a /32, which DatGuy was complaining about. But I understand the proxy argument. I'm sure you're right. Bishonen | tålk 20:18, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Bishonen, honestly, I didn't realize there was a difference in these situations until you just pointed out that one is a /64 and one is a /32. And not bein a technical person, I don't know the difference myself. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I noticed you mentioned User:TonyBallioni/Just block the /64 when talking with DatGuy. That essay explains why we should block the /64 (as indeed you did) whenever we're inclined to block an IPv6 at all. A /64 is in general one person — the exceptions are unimportant. Whereas a /32 is likely to be a whole region, as DatGuy says. My own IPv6 rangeblock competence begins and ends with /64s. I leave bigger ranges (=all other IPv6 ranges) to people who truly understand ranges. But you and I can get quite far with the principle "Just block the /64", while keeping in mind that it's one person. So, possibly, in this case, more than 60 hours wouldn't hurt? Bishonen | tålk 21:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Jefferson Shreve

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DYK for Mike Veeck

On 14 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mike Veeck, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mike Veeck's baseball promotions include Disco Demolition Night, a game with no fans, and the world's largest pillow fight? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mike Veeck. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mike Veeck), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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IP harrassment

Hi there. This may be long but I really, REALLY need your help because I'm at my wits end right now and on the verge of tears.

You're an admin right? There is this IP user who has been harrassing me for almost two months now over such a small thing that I cannot believe that I'm even here at the moment. I don't want to take this to a board just yet because I'm trying to end it without escalating this necessarily.

Earlier this year, I created List of Jewish Major League Baseball players to replace what was a section of a MUCH bigger list - linked as List of Jews in sports#Baseball and often written as "List of select Jewish baseball players" - in the "see also" section in the articles of Jewish MLB players. The first list was an incomplete and included quite a few Christians as well who were only listed there because of their Jewish ancestry but they didn't identify as Jewish. So I decided to create a list for MLB players who identified as Jewish and it even became a featured list, my very first! I then replaced the first list with this one since its obviously considered a better one and is also baseball specific.

Two months ago, this IP user undid all those replacements - minus, for whatever reason, the two Jewish HOFers and a few star Jewish players - and came into my talk page and said that I was wrong to replace to lists because they had been there for years and my list was unreadable and nobody would be willing to read it. here for that original exchange. I defended my decision - and I stand by it even now and, after a bit of back and forth, I told them to leave me alone after they decided to come back a month later to tell me how I'm still wrong and they are right and that their preference should come first.

They came up with the "compromise" that both lists should be in the "see also" which, honestly, doesn't make sense at all to me because one list is clearly more detailed and better referenced and adheres to MOS:ACCESS and was created specifically for MLB-specific articles.

Now they are saying I've "deleted" the list - I haven't - and that I should fix it instead of "deleting" it and that I'm not being "collaborative". Honestly, its really wearing me out and they are bordering on harrassment. They are now being passive aggressive - edit summary here as an example, along with my talk page comments scolding me like I'm some child - and just not leaving me alone even though I've said so a few times and even tried to ignore them. Here is the latest exchange in my talk page.

Please help me. I don't know if I'm in the wrong or not by standing by my decision to replace the original link but they are harrassing me over such a small detail and a routine edit and I can't stand it anymore. I have no agenda here; I just think the old list, as useful as it is, is far from the best work on this site and the criteria of it is flawed, and took steps to make a better, more comprehensive, MLB-specific list using the criteria given by the Jewish Baseball Museum. I'm honestly losing my mind here and I feel like crying right now because of their most recent response.

Please make them stop. I would really appreciate your help. I'm sick and tired of this. I just want them to leave me alone and stop telling me how and why I'm wrong and how I'm a bad person for not listening to them. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had no idea that page had been created, and you already got it to FL? Well done. Lemme look into this a little bit.... – Muboshgu (talk) 23:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that's very kind. :) There was a lot of info on the topic, including a couple of documentaries and (a lot) books about Jewish players in MLB. Thought it was worth looking into at least. Found more than enough for two articles. Omnis Scientia (talk) 04:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Omnis Scientia, I left them a note. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I will tell you if they continue with their behavior and I may have to tag you into the current exchange because they have two or three IP addresses and are... persistent. Omnis Scientia (talk) 04:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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