Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cricket player auction
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 11:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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It's not a distinct topic that meets WP:GNG.(NPP action) Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep There are multiple news describing the topic in depth (e.g. IPL Auction 2024 rules: How players are sold - and unsold). Also, many scientific papers (e.g. 10.1109/IC3I.2014.7019707) Geysirhead (talk) 10:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge into Indian Premier League#Player acquisition, squad composition, and salaries per nom. This article is entirely about IPL auctions and its content is better suited there. Arnav Bhate (talk) 11:30, 25 February 2024 (UTC)- Keep for now. The article is being improved. It was created today. Give the creator some time. It should probably have been created in the draft namespace and then moved after completion. Arnav Bhate (talk) 14:39, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Bangladesh Premier League does it too. Geysirhead (talk) 11:31, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. When will this recent inundation of useless and pointless cricket articles stop? AA (talk) 23:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- This is not only about cricket. The topic of selling people on auction from societal and political points of view, the auction-theoretic and financial aspects are also important in this article. There are 167 scientific papers mentioning IPL auction. Geysirhead (talk) 08:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete we don't need a general article about this, not least because every cricket tournament that uses an auction format uses a different format that is explained on that event's articles. No need for this general, catch all article. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Proposal It can be moved to a more general topic like Auctioning players in sports, since MLB auction also does it. Auction formats and the innerconnected research on that topic can be listed there.There are a lot of resources such as academic papers on player auctions in sports. Wikipedia is not a promotion site for any sport art. WP:PROMOTION Geysirhead (talk) 09:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Per Joseph2302, we don't need the topic in a separate article. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 12:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Joseph2302: @Rugbyfan22: every cricket tournament that uses an auction format uses a different format that is explained on that event's articles
- Firstly, there is no comprehensive list of links to these articles in the comments. Second, the articles to be referenced do not cover research and discussion of the practice of auctioning as a whole at their current stat. Therefore, the argument is not entirely valid, and we still need a general article on this topic. This general article would cover the practice of auctioning players in sports leagues without the need to WP:FORK the general content into specific articles for each league. Geysirhead (talk) 12:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- I AFDed this article because I disagree that "cricket player auction" in particular meets WP:GNG, or needs an article. That's not to say there's nothing encyclopedic to be extracted from the sources about player auctions in sports (most notably IPL). The question of whether there is a new article to be written is a valid one. Cricket player auction is definitely not that article, as I have said. Is cricket player auctions an article worth writing? Is Player auctions in sports? Or Player auction? I am not sure this AFD is a good place to discuss that. I would support userfying or draftifying the article to give the author opportunity to discover what encyclopedic topic it is that they want to write about and have discovered the sources for. That said, I just noticed upon previewing this very comment that the author has gone ahead and started player auction. I do not know adding to the mess was helpful. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:05, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- The debate here is deeply frustrating. So far, the cricket community has dominated the discussion, with no evidence to deny the existence of general encyclopaedic content for "Cricket Player Auction" that should not be spread across multiple articles. It speaks to the pervasive unwillingness to understand points of view outside one's own community. It is incumbent upon all of us to challenge our own biases, cultivate empathy, and strive to foster a culture of inclusivity, tolerance, and understanding. Thank you for taking the time to consider my concerns. Geysirhead (talk) 15:28, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Geysirhead please WP:AGF. There has been no evidence that we need a general article about this topic, this has nothing to do with
challenge our own biases, cultivate empathy, and strive to foster a culture of inclusivity, tolerance, and understanding
. Please don't accuse others of these things based on misinformation. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:06, 26 February 2024 (UTC)no evidence that we need a general article about this topic
- 1) There is a body of academic literature on predicting prices in player auctions in general (e.g. Valuing Cricketers Using Hedonic Price Models).
- 2) There are expressed societal concerns which are not resticted to the auction format in a certain league (e.g. IPL auction; A cattle parade? Yet, so irresistible?).
- 3) The issue of such auctions being TV shows is also of general character. Geysirhead (talk) 17:13, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Geysirhead please WP:AGF. There has been no evidence that we need a general article about this topic, this has nothing to do with
- The debate here is deeply frustrating. So far, the cricket community has dominated the discussion, with no evidence to deny the existence of general encyclopaedic content for "Cricket Player Auction" that should not be spread across multiple articles. It speaks to the pervasive unwillingness to understand points of view outside one's own community. It is incumbent upon all of us to challenge our own biases, cultivate empathy, and strive to foster a culture of inclusivity, tolerance, and understanding. Thank you for taking the time to consider my concerns. Geysirhead (talk) 15:28, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Player auctions in cricket are not sui generis, the current player auction article is enough for the topic. 95% of the sources used are about the IPL auction anyway, which might actually represent a notable topic in the vein of NBA draft. AryKun (talk) 11:39, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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