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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

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@Intrisit WP:NCBC says to use the country alone for disambiguation only when "all of the articles with the same base name will be of the same type". --Ahecht (TALK
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König's theorem (set theory) → Kőnig's theorem (set theory) (currently a redirect back to König's theorem (set theory)) (move · discuss) – Kőnig's name is spelled with an ő, not an ö. Jackdeserrano (talk) 01:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jackdeserrano: I'd like to see this go to a requested move discussion, based on Talk:König's theorem (set theory)#Use "Kőnig" instead of "König" throughout? and User:JRSpriggs's argument then. I think you make a fair point, just want to give other editors a chance to weigh in. Adumbrativus (talk) 02:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hwabon station → Hwabon Station (currently a redirect back to Hwabon station) (move · discuss) – Improper Capitalization Miffedpenguin (talk) 01:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Miffedpenguin Titles use sentence case (WP:LOWERCASE), I don't see why this should be an exception. Toadspike [Talk] 07:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oxynoemacheilus galilaeus → Nun galilaeus (currently a redirect back to Oxynoemacheilus galilaeus) (move · discuss) – Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes places this species in the genus Nun Quetzal1964 (talk) 17:27, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IUCN Red List calls it "Oxynoemacheilus galilaeus". What gives Eschmeyer priority? The article doesn't even mention Nun galilaeus (except in an infobox and as one of several names in a navbox). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 05:33, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Fishes#Taxonomy Quetzal1964 (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BarrelProof See also the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fishes#Retry proposal to change the Taxonomy used by Wikiproject:Fishes. This issue has been discussed. Quetzal1964 (talk) 11:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since there seems to be some doubt on their status they should go to a formal RM discussion where all the evidence can be presented. — Amakuru (talk) 18:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru There is no doubt on their status. Previous to October 2024 WP:Fishes used FishBase as the taxonomic source for species and genera, In October 2024 the project changed this to Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes (ECoF). This was discussed and agreed, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fishes#Retry proposal to change the Taxonomy used by Wikiproject:Fishes Here is the extract from ECoF for this species.

"galilaea, Cobitis Günther [A.] 1864:493 [Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London 1864 (pt 3); ref. 13931] Lake Tiberias, Israel [erroneous, should be Huleh Lake, Israel]. Holotype (unique): BMNH 1863.11.3.8. •Valid as Nemacheilus galilaeus (Günther 1864) -- (Krupp & Schneider 1989:379 [ref. 13651]). •Valid as Oxynoemacheilus galilaeus (Günther 1864) -- (Golzarianpour et al. 2011:205 [ref. 31693], Freyhof et al. 2012:307 [ref. 31752], Kottelat 2012:96 [ref. 32367]). •Valid as Nun galilaea (Günther 1864) -- (Prokofiev 2017:252 [ref. 35630]). •Valid as Nun galilaeus (Günther 1864) -- (Bănărescu et al. 1982:23 [ref. 174], Bănărescu & Nalbant 1995:446 [ref. 23187], Prokofiev 2009:885 [ref. 30604], Çiçek et al. 2023:455 [ref. 40601], Saad et al. 2023:10 [ref. 40501], Çiçek et al. 2024:61 [ref. 40789]). Current status: Valid as Nun galilaeus (Günther 1864). Nemacheilidae. Distribution: Middle East: Huleh Lake, Jordan River basin (Israel). Habitat: freshwater."

I am updating fish pages to reflect this change, it is going to be very wearing if I have to go through a discussion for every change like this when it has already been discussed by the Project. Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:08, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yunnanilus nigromaculatus → Eonemachilus nigromaculatus (currently a redirect back to Yunnanilus nigromaculatus) (move · discuss) – Eonemachilus is the genus name used in Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:26, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Quetzal1964 The article states that Eonemachilus is a former designation. Bensci54 (talk) 17:11, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See https://researcharchive.calacademy.org/research/ichthyology/catalog/fishcatmain.asp Wikipedia:WikiProject Fishes uses Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes for its taxonomy below the level of order. SeeWikipedia:WikiProject Fishes#Taxonomy Quetzal1964 (talk) 17:39, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bensci54 See also the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fishes#Retry proposal to change the Taxonomy used by Wikiproject:Fishes. This issue has been discussed. Quetzal1964 (talk) 11:37, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bensci54 and BarrelProof, do you still object to these moves? They appear to be backed by recent consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fishes#Retry_proposal_to_change_the_Taxonomy_used_by_Wikiproject:Fishes that I wasn't aware of. C F A 16:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I asked a skeptical question, but I did not object (and I did not move this to the contested category). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems there was a discussion related to this request, so I am okay moving these back into the uncontroversial section. If another page mover agrees, they can execute the moves. Bensci54 (talk) 17:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since there seems to be some doubt on their status they should go to a formal RM discussion where all the evidence can be presented. — Amakuru (talk) 18:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Quetzal1964: This technical request has been contested. As such, it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 21:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru There is no doubt on their status. Previous to October 2024 WP:Fishes used FishBase as the taxonomic source for species and genera, In October 2024 the project changed this to Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes (ECoF). This was discussed and agreed, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fishes#Retry proposal to change the Taxonomy used by Wikiproject:Fishes Here is the extract from ECoF for this species.

"nigromaculatus, Nemachilus Regan [C. T.] 1904:192 [Annals and Magazine of Natural History (Series 7) v. 13 (no. 75) (art. 20); ref. 15197] Sea of Tien [Tien Chih] [= Dianchi Lake], Yunnan Fu, China, elevation 6000 feet. Lectotype: BMNH 1904.1.26.38. Paralectotypes: BMNH 1904.1.26.39 (1). Original genus is correctly Nemacheilus. Lectotype selected by Kottelat & Chu 1988:68 [ref. 13392]. •Valid as Yunnanilus nigromaculatus (Regan 1904), subspecies nigromaculatus (Regan 1904) -- (Zheng et al. 1989:44 [ref. 21202], Chen et al. 2012:61 [ref. 31907]). •Valid as Yunnanilus nigromaculatus (Regan 1904) -- (Zhu 1989:18 [ref. 17744], Yang 1991:199 [ref. 13585], Ding 1992:490 [ref. 22049], Yang & Chen 1995:23 [ref. 23555], Zhu 1995:106 [ref. 25213], Chen & Zhang in Chen 1998:47 [ref. 23556], Li et al. 2000:351 [ref. 26012], Yang 2013:251 [ref. 32910], Du et al. 2015:254 [ref. 34050], Zhang et al. 2016:149 [ref. 34477], Zhang et al. 2019:354 [ref. 36699]). •Valid as Eonemachilus nigromaculatus (Regan 1904) -- (Kottelat 2012:82 [ref. 32367], Du et al. 2021:318 [ref. 38600]). Current status: Valid as Eonemachilus nigromaculatus (Regan 1904). Nemacheilidae. Distribution: East Asia: Dianchi Lake, Yangtze River basin (China). Habitat: freshwater."

I am updating fish pages to reflect this change, it is going to be very wearing if I have to go through a discussion for every change like this when it has already been discussed by the Project. Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haldia Port → Haldia Dock Complex (currently a redirect back to Haldia Port) (move · discuss) – Original as well as WP:COMMONNAME. See Haldia Port vs Haldia Dock Complex. 2409:4073:38E:6A2F:A0E1:DF73:C68:2F5F (talk) 17:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't seem like "Haldia Dock Complex" is a slamdunk as the common name according to ngrams.[1] — Amakuru (talk) 17:51, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comparable when case sensitivity is turned off [2]. People use simple terms when searching. Nothing surprising. Within books, the commonly used term is HDC. WP:COMMONNAME is determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources. "Haldia port" results in Google News also favours "HDC". Referring to it as "Port" (not a noun) is also technically incorrect, as both HDC and Kolkata Dock System are two "docks" of Kolkata Port. The content of the article also requires cleanup as it is not an independent port, or a port at all. --2409:4073:38E:6A2F:E8E3:E474:8D53:4275 (talk) 20:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Latte → Caffè latte (currently a redirect back to Latte) (move) – JacktheBrown (talk) 18:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even with no rationale given, it is clear that "Latte" is the common name. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:23, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Creature (song) → Creature (KSI song) (currently a redirect back to Creature (song)) (move · discuss) – Last week, I made the article for a Jelly Roll song of the same name and already made a request to move the KSI song to this page. MC-123 (talk) 20:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MC-123 I'm going to contest this because Creature (song) has been nominated for deletion, and moving during an open AfD is extremely inconvenient for the AfD process. Feel free to come back here when the AfD is closed. Toadspike [Talk] 20:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Toadspike, thank you for letting me know. I will come back once the AfD is closed. MC-123 (talk) 21:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Edinburgh Woollen Mill → The Edinburgh Woollen Mill (currently a redirect back to Edinburgh Woollen Mill) (move · discuss) – reason 'The Edinburgh Woollen Mill' is the official title Icaldonta (talk) 23:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any sources using "The" here. Sennecaster (Chat) 02:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Their official website: https://www.ewm.co.uk

Their UK company registration: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13599839

Google Image results, they always have their shopfronts saying 'The Edinburgh Woollen Mill'

Their Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/theedinburghwoollenmill Icaldonta (talk) 11:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per above, most reliable sources refer to the current title and not the official. ToadetteEdit (talk) 08:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Their official website: https://www.ewm.co.uk

Their UK company registration: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13599839

Google Image results, they always have their shopfronts saying 'The Edinburgh Woollen Mill'

Their Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/theedinburghwoollenmill Icaldonta (talk) 11:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Concorde Bridge (Montreal) (currently a redirect to Pont de la Concorde (Montreal)) → Concorde Bridge (currently a redirect instead to Pont de la Concorde) (move · discuss) – Unnecessary disambiguation. (Note that this article's title was changed from French to English after 16.5 years due to a seemingly-unfounded accusation of vandalism.) J 947 ‡ ^edits 02:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a message on the previous mover's Talk page. I'd like to figure out that weird edit summary accusation before performing this move. Toadspike [Talk] 10:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the recent page move, back to Pont de la Concorde (Montreal)... as far as I can tell from sources such as [3][4][5] it is reasonably common to use the French title in English works. At the very least this merits a discussion. Also, as an aside, I wouldn't support the move suggested here anyway. "Concorde Bridge" can just as easily refer to the bridge in Paris as the one in Montreal, even in English. — Amakuru (talk) 10:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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