Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 11

August 11

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 11, 2022.

Sacramento State green

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Spring green#Sacramento State green. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 05:50, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sacramento State green → Shades of green#Sacramento State green (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target article, and could not find a good place to retarget this redirect amongst articles related to California State University, Sacramento. Steel1943 (talk) 22:49, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Pine green

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Shades of cyan#Pine green since it is mentioned there. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 05:34, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pine green → Shades of green#Pine green (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Pine Green → Shades of green#Pine green (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target article, but Pine green is a {{R with history}}. Steel1943 (talk) 22:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Shades of cyan#Pine green: While this should probably have its contents moved back to Shades of green, they're currently located in Shades of cyan. TartarTorte 22:09, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Shades of cyan#Pine green per TartarTorte. --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:09, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Moss green

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 18#Moss green

Deltacoronavirus

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. This is a move request per WP:PRECISE and not an RfD. Move request is at Talk:Deltacoronavirus (genus)#Requested move 11 August 2022. (non-admin closure) TartarTorte 21:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deltacoronavirus → Delta coronavirus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

While I do believe that SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant is the primary target for Delta coronavirus, I think that without the space such as Deltacoronavirus, targeting directly to the Deltacoronavirus (genus) makes sense, especially with the current hat-note. TartarTorte 18:40, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TartarTorte: This would technically be a move request since Deltacoronavirus (genus) would move to Deltacoronavirus per WP:PRECISE. Steel1943 (talk) 20:49, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Self-trout I am 99% sure I've told someone here that they've used the WP:WRONGVENUE for a move request at RfD, and here I go doing so anyways. Cheers @Steel1943! Turning it into an WP:RM now. TartarTorte 21:39, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Niskaram

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 17:26, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Niskaram → Namaste (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target, although "namaskaram" is listed as a varient. MB 17:26, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it seems to share the same root word as Namaste according to this article [1]. However, it doesn't mean that it is a synonym for the term and is instead a term for "prayer". --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:52, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Latina (song)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 18#Latina (song)

.rp

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 17:13, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

.rp → .pl (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

While RP can refer to Poland's full, formal name, Rzeczpospolita Polska, .rp does not appear to actually used for Polish websites, and it does not show up at List of Internet top-level domains. Delete unless evidence of use can be provided. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:59, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This TLD doesn't appear in the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority's database of top-level domains. - Eureka Lott 18:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not in the list of domains, and the country code is reserved as it refers to the Philippines.(https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:RP) Peter James (talk) 16:15, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as misleading. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:24, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not a real top-level domain, and the ISO code RP isn't used for Poland. Glades12 (talk) 13:43, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Forgive my laughter

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 18#Forgive my laughter

-mancy

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Mancy due to it containing more helpful pointers. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 13:31, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

-mancy → Divination (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not specifically mentioned at target. Maybe a soft redirect to its Wiktionary entry (Wikt:-mancy) would be more suitable? CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:53, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Mancy (disambiguation) which contains the wiktionary link -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 22:16, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does Wikipedia have many other redirects based on partial search terms or morphemes? Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary, it's a bit strange to have redirects for random affixes and morphemes, so I'd lean towards soft redirect to Wiktionary.

Since the disambiguation page exists and links to the Wiktionary entry a retarget to that page could also work, but honestly I'm not convinced that disambiguation page should exist in the first place. There's only one other target listed and "mancy" on its own is rarely used in reference to divination except perhaps as an informal term in some fringe communities; under these circumstances, disambiguation seems like a stretch. – Scyrme (talk) 19:54, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Mancy (disambiguation) per 64.229.88.43, who has also enhanced the dab today with multiple entries. Jay 💬 10:41, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Amir Ben Shimon

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The result of the discussion was keep and restored article at Amir Ben-Shimon, without prejudice to AfD. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:29, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amir Ben Shimon → Amir Ben-Shimon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Circular redirect. The other one is at Amir Ben-Shimon. scope_creep^Talk 07:56, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget both to F.C. Kafr Qasim#Current squad - Subject is an Israeli footballer who plays for F.C. Kafr Qasim. If no biographical article exists, then redirecting to the club he plays for seems best; he is mentioned at that article. – Scyrme (talk) 08:54, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Amir Ben-Shimon was an article from 2013 until today, when it was WP:BLARed by User:Scope creep. - Eureka Lott 18:30, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Restore one of the pages: Both Amir Ben Shimon and Amir Ben-Shimon were BLARed and caused a circular redirect. One of them should be restored. If the person is not notable enough for wikipedia, that should be at WP:AfD TartarTorte 02:52, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The former was briefly an article because of an attempted cut-and-paste move from the latter. If we're going to reinstate one, it should be Amir Ben-Shimon, which was an article until the nominator created the circular redirect they noted in the nomination. - Eureka Lott 15:46, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Restoring Amir Ben-Shimon and having Amir Ben Shimon has a redirect works for me. TartarTorte 17:45, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Giant Snowman 18:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Restore article as above. Giant Snowman 18:55, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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塔罗牌

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 10:32, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

塔罗牌 → Tarot (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete per WP:RLOTE. No particular affinity between Tarot and the Chinese language. CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:39, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per CycloneYoris. 99.99% of readers won't be able to decipher it and, if they can, they should be on the relevant language Wiki. Bermicourt (talk) 07:59, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the article doesn’t even mention China so there is no evidence of a significant association.--67.70.24.37 (talk) 17:09, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There's no greater inherent association between Tarot and its name in Chinese than in any other language, especially as it is not mentioned in the article. Delete per WP:RLOTE. TartarTorte 22:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Retarget to Hong_Kong_Cantonese#From_English Where it is mentioned but I'm also fine with deletion. --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:25, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator. Oppose retargeting to Hong Kong Cantonese since this term is used in all varieties of Chinese, and in any case Hong Kong Cantonese is generally not written in simplified Chinese. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 03:27, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Quartz (magazine)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:17, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quartz (magazine) → Quartz (publication) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No evidence that Quartz is an online magazine, and it doesn't publish a printed magazine either. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:59, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It's useful, used, and a reasonable search term per WP:RFD#KEEP. It's useful, as indicated by the 18 incoming links from article space. I'm not sure we need to quibble over the precise definition of an online magazine, and how one distinguishes it from a news website or online newspaper (especially since online publications can change over time: being a blog one year, a news website the next year, and a multiplatform media conglomerate the next year). I created the redirect to aid in finding the link and article (for both Wikipedians and readers), as several sources, reliable and otherwise, do and have previously referred to it as "Quartz magazine" using plain English. From the Washington Post: "In 2015, Quartz magazine said that..." From New York Post: "He was my colleague daily, seven days a week," Hoffenberg told Quartz magazine this week. From The Economist: "Mr LeVine, Washington correspondent for Quartz magazine...". From BBC News: ""hostage negotiator George Kohlrieser in Quartz magazine's feature...". From USA Today: "Quartz magazine reported." Deletion seems like a step backwards (Redirects are cheap), and the only reason for retargeting (e.g. to a disambiguation page) might be if there are other periodicals with the same name that compile articles of different subjects that one could conceivably call a magazine. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:43, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Animalparty. Seems a pretty reasonable search term. If anything (magazine) is a much more natural disambiguator to try than (publication); at least I would possibly think of that first if I were searching, regardless of if this is technically a magazine. A7V2 (talk) 07:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The boundaries between magazines, newspapers, news sites, blogs etc. are often fuzzy and can change, so this is a useful redirect even if it may not be exactly correct right now. The creator has demonstrated that lots of high-profile sources call Quartz a magazine, so it's natural that readers would similarly use this disambiguator when trying to find the article. Glades12 (talk) 15:08, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per AnimalParty. I wonder if it would in fact be better for the current positioning of the titles to be reversed (i.e. "magazine" as the actual title with "publication" as the redirect). - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:19, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Vaanku

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 18#Vaanku

6100s

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 06:25, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

6100s → Timeline of the far future (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I don't see how this is useful, one particular future century. MB 04:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There are more than 500 redirects from future years and ranges.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 06:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I think the vast majority of these redirects created by DerekSquared, where nothing is mentioned about the specific century/decade/year, should be deleted. In this particular case there is nothing in the target about the 6100s so this is an unsuitable redirect. A7V2 (talk) 07:40, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I know which ones will be tackled next. Most likely the decades, a number of which are leftover from when we had separate articles covering the 4th–10th millenia. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 11:04, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for having no apparent use. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:15, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Asparagus (color)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Shades of chartreuse#Asparagus. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:45, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Asparagus (color) → Shades of green#Asparagus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Asparagus (colour) → Shades of green#Asparagus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in the target article, and doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere else on Wikipedia either. I'm assuming the subject of these redirects was at the target article at some point, but if it was, it seems it was over at least a year ago. In addition, Asparagus (color) is a {{R with history}}. Steel1943 (talk) 22:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It probably was once in the target. This smells like yet another stupid move of content (see #Army green below) but I'm tired of doing the hard work of trawling through the history to find out what happened to it. I vote to put it back from wherever it was moved to. SpinningSpark 14:36, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:45, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Regarding the history, Asparagus (color) was an unreferenced stub until it was overwritten as a redirect by a revision on 03:10, 6 March 2008 by Wrad. Looking at Shades of green, it appears multiple articles were merged to that destination around 6 and 7 March 2008 by Wrad and PaleAqua. (See Talk:Shades of green § The Plan) The material remained there and by around 2017 it was no longer unreferenced.

However, on 6 February 2021 ThunderBrine thoroughly reorganised the article, deleting much of its content including the material originating with Asparagus (color). I don't know if these changes were discussed anywhere (they don't appear to have been discussed at Talk:Shades of green), and no edit summaries were given. It does not appear that the material was moved anywhere; rather, it seems it was deleted, so there's nothing to "put back" unless we recover it from an old revision. I'm not sure what the reasons were for cutting some entries (like 'asparagus green') while leaving others in. – Scyrme (talk) 00:52, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ThunderBrine: What do you think about this redirect? Your opinion may be helpful, since you've been editing Shades of chartreuse lately and were the one who deleted the material that was moved to Shades of green. If you moved the material rather than deleting it, where did you move it? – Scyrme (talk) 00:52, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If they were in shades of green page, I most likely moved colors to chartreuse or spring green, based on HSV/HSL, which is the modern tool used for classification of color. I would have moved shades of green to the yellow and cyan color families if the colors were drastically inaccurate to their color family. (it was usually shades of dark yellow or dark cyan; those two subfamilies were often mistakenly put in the green family. People to this day still think of olive as a shade of dark green rather than dark chartreuse or dark yellow.) ThunderBrine (talk) 22:46, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ThunderBrine: I don't see "asparagus" listed at any of those destinations. If it helps you remember what happened, here's a link to what the content was: revision 1000906644#Asparagus. – Scyrme (talk) 04:54, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Asparagus" has a HSV/HSL hue of 93°, so it should appear in Shades of chartreuse rather than any other color page. If it doesn't, I wonder if someone changed it sometime recently as to not being in the chartreuse/"yellow-green" family. ThunderBrine (talk) 12:03, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You had added it but without attribution, and it was copied content, which is why it was removed. Jay 💬 13:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Redirect to List of Crayola crayon colors~~, was a stub mostly talked about it in relation to "name the new colors" contest, see 1993 in Timeline of Crayola. PaleAqua (talk) 02:10, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's true of the original unreferenced stub, but the most recent version the material included a bit about "asparagus green" being named as a colour as early as 1805, before the Crayola contest. (See revision 1000906644#Asparagus) – Scyrme (talk) 05:00, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Shades of chartreuse § Asparagus given the restoration mentioned. Or wherever it ends up given the broader discussion at the color wikiproject. PaleAqua (talk) 14:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the section existed— Tazuco ✉️ 15:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:27, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have added back shades to Shades of chartreuse as part of the Avocado discussion, and Asparagus is at Shades of chartreuse#Asparagus. Jay 💬 13:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, retarget to Shades of chartreuse § Asparagus. – Scyrme (talk) 15:35, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I've started a broader discussion of the situation extending beyond particular redirects at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Color/Archive 9#"Shades of" articles. – Scyrme (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Nguyen Ngọc Tho

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 17#Nguyen Ngọc Tho

Verdi Competition

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:16, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Verdi Competition → Giuseppe Verdi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

While named for Verdi, it does not appear in the target article. TartarTorte 00:02, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:REDLINK. It seems to be a notable international competition and I've seen some potential references that say this is one of the first steps to becoming a musical virtuoso. I think someone more versed in classical music might be able to create an article out of this. --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete to encourage article creation. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:42, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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