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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
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Catshark → Scyliorhinidae (currently a redirect back to Catshark) (move · discuss) – the family has been split up and now three different families have the common name catshark, will change redirect to disambiguation page once move is completed Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:37, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Crown Office → Crown Office in Chancery (currently a redirect back to Crown Office) (move · discuss) – This name can refer to either the Crown Office in Chancery (central UK Government) or the Crown Office & Procurator Fiscal Service (devolved Scottish Government). Currently Crown Office refers to the London institution with Crown Office in Chancery being a redirect to it. I would prefer that these be swapped around so that Crown Office in Chancery becomes the name of the article and Crown Office becomes a disambiguation page. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 11:28, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Telekom Innovation Laboratories → T-Labs (currently a redirect back to Telekom Innovation Laboratories) (move · discuss) – T-Labs is the most common name of Deutsche Telekom's R&D unit. 2018rebel 18:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"T-Labs" though now a redirect may seem vague and DABbable... Intrisit (talk) 19:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The same could be said of other Deutsche Telekom brands and assets, such as T-Mobile (dab page due to multiple Telekom subsidiaries and products currently or formerly using the T-Mobile brand), T-Home, T-Systems, or T-Center. Also, no article or redirect page titled either T Lab or T Labs currently exists. 2018rebel 03:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jade Thirlwall → Jade (singer) (currently a redirect instead to Jade (given name)) (move · discuss) – She goes mononymously in her solo work, that can be checked on all streaming platforms [1], [2], [3], official website. Bluemoon878 (talk) 23:20, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest opening a full discussion on this since there are other singers with the name Jade, be it with or without their surname/family name. – robertsky (talk) 02:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not a bad idea tbh. Among the bevy of other Jades on that given name article page, several of them are also singers. One should thoroughly check on AllMusic and/or Genius to be sure none of them ever went mononymously.

For the time being, until a full discussion occurs and/or consensus, w/e…what I'd recommend is, immediately following her birthdate in the lede, having it say "known mononymously as Jade" or words to that effect. That's fairly customary. --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 13:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This will be a spicy RM and is in no way uncontroversial. She has been known as her full name for her entire career except for the last few months when she's released, what, three songs? RachelTensions (talk) 05:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the closest "big" article example we have in a similar situation would be Brandy Norwood who is very widely known just as "Brandy" but also recognized as "Brandy Norwood". We leave her article at her full name because the last name serves as a natural disambiguation between all the other "Brandy" articles. There's been umpteen proposals over the years to move her to Brandy (singer) and they've all failed because it just doesn't make sense. RachelTensions (talk) 05:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New York University Grossman School of Medicine → NYU Grossman School of Medicine (currently a redirect back to New York University Grossman School of Medicine) (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME. The organization's website and social media, as well as reliable media sources, routinely use this name. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 21:37, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think a redirect, with the alternate name being bolded in the lede as its "AKA ______" name would be sufficient. I concur with @Raladic that all of the NYU sub-colleges' article names need to retain consistency with one another. So if you're insisting upon this alteration, IMO, you're insisting upon this alteration for ALL of them. I'm sure that's not the one and only in which the school's online presence refers to NYU in short form to condense space and/or be less overwhelming. --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 15:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cool (aesthetic) → Cool (social sciences and aesthetics) (currently a redirect back to Cool (aesthetic)) (move · discuss) – Better subject clarifier ModernDaySlavery (talk) 00:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ModernDaySlavery See WP:CONCISE. C F A 💬 00:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muppets Inside → The Muppet CD-ROM: Muppets Inside (currently a redirect back to Muppets Inside) (move · discuss) – Contemporary articles on the game interchangeably refer to it as The Muppet CD-ROM, Muppets Inside, or its full title. Moving the page to the full title will encompass all such cases and reduce confusion. Mystyle48 (talk) 21:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mystyle48 Is there any discussions of this confusion you are saying occurred? It appears the article has existed since 2006 at the current title and you just created the new redirect. We prefer short titles per WP:CONCISE and use longer redirects unless there is a strong case for why the longer title is required. Raladic (talk) 01:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dalbello → Lisa Dal Bello (currently a redirect back to Dalbello) (move · discuss) – Per WP:PRIMARY, WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONSISTENT. Dalbello is a stage name only. — User:Dolovis (User talk:Dolovis • Special:Contributions/Dolovis) — Preceding undated comment added 02:53, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's a stage name, but that doesn't make it a bad choice of title per se. So is Eminem, and so are a lot of other stage names that are used as article titles. What's the problem? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 05:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This should probably be an RM discussion with reliable sources to back up the assertion that this person is more commonly referred to by her given name in English language reliable sources than by her stage name. RachelTensions (talk) 05:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sunitha (disambiguation) → Sunita (disambiguation) (currently a redirect back to Sunitha (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – proper spelling according to transliteration standards. Tstcikhthys1 (talk) 18:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tstcikhthys1 Given that the DAB page appears to have people with either of the two spellings, this is definitely not uncontroversial. Recommend a full RM discussion. Raladic (talk) 21:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pablo Escobar, The Drug Lord → Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal (currently a redirect back to Pablo Escobar, The Drug Lord) (move · discuss) – Netflix title is "Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal" (With that stylisation, is also the original stylisation). So I think we can consider that the new international title. "The drug lord" is also a very poor translation of "El patrón del Mal" Tazelaar (talk) 09:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tazelaar Apple TV+ Still calls it "Pablo Escobar: The Drug Lord" here. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Netflix (here) and IMDb (here) and MUBI (here) call it "El patrón del mal". Tazelaar (talk) 13:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tazelaar Contesting as this likely needs a discussion to move forward. This wiki prefers English titles when possible, and we use the WP:COMMONNAME which is the name reported by majority of sources (again, preferably English sources, which are typically going to favor an English translation) - as for the translation, if the official translation is incorrect, it might be borderline editorializing if we try to correct it unless the correction we go with is also supported by majority of RS. At the very least, we would need to see sources or evidence of which title is the common name to move forward (and that would be most productive in a discussion where editors can bring forward opposing evidence that may have been missed.) ASUKITE 14:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I concede that the content of the translation is a circumstantial argument, but an argument nonetheless. Tazelaar (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another circumstantial argument is that: "El patrón del mal" is a better recognisable title. Pablo Escobar was a drug lord, so the title could be used normally in a sentence. "El patrón del mal" is a unique title, more distinguishing from the "Pablo Escobar" article and Google results. Tazelaar (talk) 13:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Majoritarian criteria → Majority criterion (currently a redirect instead to Majority winner criterion) (move · discuss) – Undiscussed move, not a good fit for a DAB page. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 06:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at Edit history for the Majority winner criterion, you will see that the original name of the article was the Majority criterion, and had been for the previous 19 years, until this user, Closed Limelike Curves, decided to unilaterally move it to a new, idiosyncratic name of Majority favorite, of which the only source on the page referring it as that is a decade-plus-old archive of an advocacy article. The only discussion on that move was closed quickly and with no consensus reached. The disambiguation page was only made by this user after they moved the original page, which unfortunately makes it difficult for there to be a revert back to the previous status quo as technically there was already an existing page with the title Majority criterion now. Renaming the disambiguation page to Majoritarian criteria, which I feel is an apt description of the content, and having the original article name redirect back to the now renamed Majority winner criterion seemed to be the quickest way to fix it for now. The user making this request is also currently in the process of an Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Bold, or disruptive? for doing similar moves on articles with similar subject matter, so I would talk them with a grain of salt here. 180 Degree Open Angedre (talk) 10:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Closed Limelike Curves The ANI should be closed before we move this, or we should have a discussion, given how complex the situation is compared to the types of moves we typically do here. (Also noting that while the ANI doesn't affect or reference this move in particular, it is a similar topic to what is being discussed presently) ASUKITE 15:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16bit (band) → 16bit (currently a redirect back to 16bit (band)) (move · discuss) – Unnecessary disambiguation Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 09:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jean-de-Nivelle This could be controversial as the term 16-bit is used for computing and even the hat note right now points to 16-bit (disambiguation) so a full RM including the DAB page may be in order. I’d actually almost say that the ambiguous term redirect of 16bit maybe also should point to the dab page or the primary topic of 16-bit computing. Raladic (talk) 13:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator needed