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I mainly deal with entries in Romance languages and (when relevant) Latin. |
I mainly deal with entries in Romance languages and (when relevant) Latin. |
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=== Agenda === |
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* <s>Recategorize all 1099 Catalan words that are claimed to be ‘[[:Category:Catalan terms inherited from Old Occitan|inherited from Old Occitan]]’ as either inherited from Old Catalan/Latin or borrowed from Old Occitan.</s> ✓ |
* <s>Recategorize all 1099 Catalan words that are claimed to be ‘[[:Category:Catalan terms inherited from Old Occitan|inherited from Old Occitan]]’ as either inherited from Old Catalan/Latin or borrowed from Old Occitan.</s> ✓ |
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* <s>Remove hundreds of fake Mozarabic words added by [[Special:Contributions/Romandalusí|Romandalusí]], often through thirty or so different IP's.</s> ✓ |
* <s>Remove hundreds of fake Mozarabic words added by [[Special:Contributions/Romandalusí|Romandalusí]], often through thirty or so different IP's.</s> ✓ |
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** Add references to AIS/ALF/FEW wherever applicable |
** Add references to AIS/ALF/FEW wherever applicable |
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** Add altforms per DFP/LTA/FEW |
** Add altforms per DFP/LTA/FEW |
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⚫ | * If a language has phonemic stress, its presence or absence should be indicated in monosyllabic words, not omitted for the sake of typographical convenience. Consider the minimal pair {{m|en|Anne}} :: {{m|en|an}}, that is /ˈæn/ :: /æn/. Representing both as /æn/ would fail to account for the differences in surface realization.<ref>''Anne-Marie'' ['''ˌan'''məˈɹiː], ''an artist'' ['''ə̆~ăˈn'''ɑːtɪst].</ref> |
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⚫ | ** ''Night-rate'' :: ''nitrate'' = ⫽ˈnaɪt+ˈɹeɪt⫽ :: ⫽ˈnaɪtɹeɪt⫽<ref>One could also analyse ''nitrate'' as a confix of ⫽ˈnaɪtɹəʊ-+-eɪt⫽, with ''nitro-'' having the prevocalic allomorph ''nitr-''.</ref> > [ˈnaɪt.ˌɹeɪt] :: [ˈnaɪ.ʧɹeɪt]. In other words, the reason they sound different is that the former (but not the latter) has /t/ and /ɹ/ split across two different morphemes, ''night-rate'' being a transparent combination of ''night'' and ''rate''. |
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=== Miscellanea === |
=== Miscellanea === |
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Some appendices and categories of interest: |
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==== Appendices/categories of interest ==== |
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* [[Appendix:Mozarabic kharjas|Mozarabic kharjas]] |
* [[Appendix:Mozarabic kharjas|Mozarabic kharjas]] |
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* [[Appendix:Italian terms inherited from Latin|Italian terms inherited from Latin]] |
* [[Appendix:Italian terms inherited from Latin|Italian terms inherited from Latin]] |
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* [[:Category:Georgian terms with /f/|Georgian terms with /f/]] |
* [[:Category:Georgian terms with /f/|Georgian terms with /f/]] |
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* [[:Category:Early Medieval Latin|Early Medieval Latin]] |
* [[:Category:Early Medieval Latin|Early Medieval Latin]] |
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⚫ | * If a language has phonemic stress, its presence or absence should be indicated in monosyllabic words, not omitted for the sake of typographical convenience. Consider the minimal pair {{m|en|Anne}} :: {{m|en|an}}, that is /ˈæn/ :: /æn/. Representing both as /æn/ would fail to account for the differences in surface realization.<ref>''Anne-Marie'' ['''ˌan'''məˈɹiː], ''an artist'' ['''ə̆~ăˈn'''ɑːtɪst].</ref> |
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⚫ | ** ''Night-rate'' :: ''nitrate'' = ⫽ˈnaɪt+ˈɹeɪt⫽ :: ⫽ˈnaɪtɹeɪt⫽<ref>One could also analyse ''nitrate'' as a confix of ⫽ˈnaɪtɹəʊ-+-eɪt⫽, with ''nitro-'' having the prevocalic allomorph ''nitr-''.</ref> > [ˈnaɪt.ˌɹeɪt] :: [ˈnaɪ.ʧɹeɪt]. In other words, the reason they sound different is that the former (but not the latter) has /t/ and /ɹ/ split across two different morphemes, ''night-rate'' being a transparent combination of ''night'' and ''rate''. |
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===Notes=== |
===Notes=== |
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Also I can read—but not speak—any other Italo-Western Romance variety. |
I mainly deal with entries in Romance languages and (when relevant) Latin.
Agenda
Recategorize all 1099 Catalan words that are claimed to be ‘inherited from Old Occitan’ as either inherited from Old Catalan/Latin or borrowed from Old Occitan.✓Remove hundreds of fake Mozarabic words added by Romandalusí, often through thirty or so different IP's.✓- Sort through categories for Romance words claimed to be ‘inherited from Latin’ and remove the ones that clearly weren't.
Catalan✓ 15/08/23Franco-Provençal✓ 08/06/24- French:
- Italian:
- Neapolitan (largely complete)
- Occitan:
- Portuguese:
Romanian(no need, already fine)Spanish✓ 03/09/22
- Move all 'Reconstructed Latin terms' which are in fact attested (in the appropriate time period) to the mainspace, with citations.
- Recategorize all ‘Terms inherited from Medieval Latin’ as one of the following: (largely complete)
- Inherited from Early Medieval Latin (attested up to ca. 10th c. AD)
- Borrowed from (later) Medieval Latin (attested 11th c. and later)
- Inherited from a reconstructed ‘Vulgar Latin’ term (unattested anywhere prior to 11th c.)
- Neapolitan clean-up:
Fix/check metaphonic plurals✓- Fix IPA transcriptions (largely complete)
Relemmatize verbs to ⟨-re⟩ spellings✓
- Franco-Provençal overhaul:
Move all lemmas to ORB spellings✓Add Swadesh list words✓- Add pronouns (largely complete)
- Fix the verb conjugations
- Add references to AIS/ALF/FEW wherever applicable
- Add altforms per DFP/LTA/FEW
Miscellanea
Appendices/categories of interest
- Mozarabic kharjas
- Italian terms inherited from Latin
- French terms inherited from Latin
- Survivals of the Latin nominative in Romance
- Latin terms with variable monophthongization
- Italian terms with voicing of Latin /-p t k-/
- Sardinian terms with /e/ for Latin /i/
- Late Latin prepositional compounds
- Catalan masculine forms with -o
- Georgian terms with /f/
- Early Medieval Latin
Phonological pet peeves
- If a language has phonemic stress, its presence or absence should be indicated in monosyllabic words, not omitted for the sake of typographical convenience. Consider the minimal pair Anne :: an, that is /ˈæn/ :: /æn/. Representing both as /æn/ would fail to account for the differences in surface realization.[1]
- There is no such thing as contrastive syllable division or contrastive secondary stress in any of the languages with which I am familiar.[2] Any claimed example falls apart once one accounts for morphology.
- Night-rate :: nitrate = ⫽ˈnaɪt+ˈɹeɪt⫽ :: ⫽ˈnaɪtɹeɪt⫽[3] > [ˈnaɪt.ˌɹeɪt] :: [ˈnaɪ.ʧɹeɪt]. In other words, the reason they sound different is that the former (but not the latter) has /t/ and /ɹ/ split across two different morphemes, night-rate being a transparent combination of night and rate.
- Reagan :: raygun = ⫽ˈɹeɪɡən⫽ :: ⫽ˈɹeɪ+ˈɡʌn⫽ > [ˈɹeɪ.ɡən] :: [ˈɹeɪ.ˌɡʌn]. That is, the latter (but not the former) is a transparent combination of two nouns, ray and gun, each with their own underlying stress.