Property talk:P86

Latest comment: 3 months ago by AHIOH in topic Conflation?

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composer
person(s) who wrote the music [for lyricist, use "lyrics by" (P676)]
Representscomposer (Q36834)
Data typeItem
Domain
According to this template: work (Q386724)
According to statements in the property:
work (Q386724), group of works (Q17489659) or instrumental composition (Q24887304)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuesperson (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleMadama Butterfly (Q19005)Giacomo Puccini (Q7311)
The Marriage of Figaro (Q201873)Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (Q254)
Carmen (Q185968)Georges Bizet (Q56158)
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533319)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q57387035)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P86 (Q26250006)
See alsolyricist (P676), librettist (P87), author (P50), creator (P170), orchestrator (P10806)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total265,800
Main statement260,28697.9% of uses
Qualifier5,4862.1% of uses
Reference28<0.1% of uses
Search for values
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Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P86#Entity types, hourly updated report
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P86#Scope, SPARQL
Value type “human (Q5), special purpose artist (Q59755569), musical group (Q215380): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human (Q5), special purpose artist (Q59755569), musical group (Q215380) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P86#Value type Q5, Q59755569, Q215380, SPARQL
Property “occupation (P106)” declared by target items of “composer (P86): If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “occupation (P106)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Water for Elephants (Q123560854)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P86#Target required claim P106, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): libretto (Q131084): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P86#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P86#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): audio track (Q7302866), music track with vocals (Q55850593), music track without lyrics (Q55850643): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P86#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL
 
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Add "songwriter" to encompass all music composition

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Any objections to adding an alias for "songwriter" and making the property encompass popular music more obviously? In other words, what would be the value in separating the property "songwriter" (which would otherwise definitely exist)? It's the value of the property that matters, the concept involved is very similar. Better yet, "Composer or songwriter" as the main label of this property would read better when a page is viewed. Espeso (talk) 04:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

"Composer" includes songwriters, see en:Category:Composers by genre. We could put "songwriter" in the AKA field. (Translate "composer and/or songwriter" in 286 languages and discuss 286 times, why songwriters are more important than other composers ... not so good.) --Kolja21 (talk) 00:11, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Expand to include film score composers?

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This is being discussed at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#musical_score_by_.2F_musique_de_film_par_.2F_... Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Restriction to single value

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Why is this restricted to single value? Modern day music can be composed by more than one person. And usually the difference between the composer(s) and the lyricist(s) is unclear and everyone is mentioned as the composer. Mbch331 (talk) 10:21, 15 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

French label

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Following this request for comments, the French label now includes the male and the female form. PAC2 (talk) 04:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Conflation?

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This seems to conflate composers of particular works of music with composers of songs within films and other forms of media composition. The constrictions seem to indicate it applies to instances of video game composer, music executive, record producer, singer, and so on. I came across this when I noticed a short film called "All the Boys Are Called Patrick" was listed as composed by Beethoven. Wouldn't it be better to change this to apply strictly to musical compositions? songs within movies, plays, shows, etc. could be "part of" the former and have the composer listed as a qualifier of the song (albeit not necessary as it is attached to the song). AHIOH (talk) 04:25, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

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