In article <51a64bcf.80...@stsci.edu>,
 Michael Droettboom <md...@stsci.edu> 
 wrote:

> I'm pleased to announce the tagging of matplotlib-1.3.0rc1.
> 
> Once the binaries from Christoph and Russell have been uploaded, I'll 
> make a broader announcement to get some testing of this in advance of 
> the final release.
> 
> The tarball is available here:
> 
> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/matplotlib/matplotlib/matplotlib-1.3
> .0rc1/matplotlib-1.3.0rc1.tar.gz
> 
> The documentation for this version is viewable here:
> 
> http://matplotlib.org/1.3.0
> 
> Thanks everyone for their hard work getting this out the door!

It looks like the ability to include pytz and other dependencies in 
binary distributions has been removed?

Is this really what we want? In the past we always included them. 
Excluding them certainly makes sense if using pip or a similar installer 
that can handle dependencies, but that is not the case for binaries.

I guess we could serve the associated packages (pytz, dateutil and six), 
or if they can be installed by pip, ask users to install those. But 
users using binary installers may not even have pip available, so it's a 
big initial hurdle.

I'd personally be happier reverting to the old system. Sorry if I missed 
a discussion on this.

-- Russell


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