Diary of a PUA

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Evolution Of A PUA: Part 1 The Ugly Shy
Introvert
As you might know, I was not a natural with
women. I wasnt even a natural with friends.
I had bad social skills, was generally shy and
introverted, and basically avoided social situations
like the plague.
Because ive gone from having nothing to being
successful with women and good socially in a
short space of time, I thought it might be valuable
to document the steps I took and my infuences
along the way.
Back in 2003, I got out a notebook and wrote down
my problems and what steps id take to address
them. Back then, I hadnt heard of game, so it was
just focused on my perceived weaknesses: Heres
what it said:
Shit fashion
Shy
Bad social skills
Ugly
Not funny
Quite voice
Cant hold eye contact
Bad body language
Cant dance
Unconfdent
Petrifed of public speaking
Low Self-esteem
CV lacks qualifcations
Live in a boring small city
Ouch. Okay, the good news is that they are all
taken care of. So what did I do?
1. I signed up to a TEFL course in Seville so that id
be in a foreign country and be forced to speak in
front of a group of people (the students), interact
with a bunch of strangers (the other trainees), and
also get a useful qualifcation and get to visit a
cool city.
I committed the money and time and it paid off. I
was shaking and nervous in the frst class. 6 hours
of teaching time later and I was almost smooth!
2. I started slowly building a wardrobe of nice
clothes and throwing out all the ill-ftting sporty
rubbish that id worn for the past 5 years. I found
the best brands for me, learnt about ft, materials,
quality etc.
Over 2 years I flled my wardrobe with great
clothes (mostly at discount prices) that id be
able to wear for years. I avoided obvious labels
like Burberry and got classic stuff like Zegna and
Ralph Lauren Purple Label. I now have a wardrobe
that will last me a long long time and rarely buy
clothes.
Having done these two I already felt more
confdent. But there was still a lot to learn.
3. For my general self-esteem, happiness, and
mental state, I read a lot of very useful books. I
read everything out there on, by, or about Milton
Erickson. I read all the old Bandler NLP books.
I read buddhist stuff. I read Robert Anton Wilson,
Tony Robbins, and Alan Watts. I stopped watching
TV so much, stopped reading and watching the
news, and spoke less to negative people.
This made me happier through toning down my
competitive side, reducing my need for material
possesions, curing me of envy, and generally
made me more content and happy. I came to
understand that I was in control of my mood and
happiness. Nowadays my mental state is solid and
I am calm and not easy to affect emotionally.
Evolution Of A PUA - Part 2 - From Ugly
To Model And More
So I was making progress, and that made me
happy. I was able to talk to people without going
red, I got admiring looks for my clothes, and I felt
good inside. I still had a lot to work on though.
4. Next came my physical looks. I was called ugly
at school and college.
So what steps did I take to fx my looks?
Ive already mentioned the fashion. Next
came: eyebrows, I had hair in the middle
a monobrow, so I had them shaped. Hair: I
asked the best hairdresser I could fnd (www.
neilcurryhairdressing.com - thank you Neil!)
if I could have hair like Tom Cruise in The Last
Samura. He said Yes and 18 months later thats
pretty much what I have.
(picture, Cambridge, 2001)
(picture, Cambridge, 2002)
(picture, Cambridge, 2006)
I modeled actors and now I can resemble Colin
Farrell, Tom Cruise, or Orlando Bloom. Women will
say I look like these poeple when im doing it. I
worked hard on body language to look more cool.
From being called ugly by average girls, I now get
asked every week Are you a model?.
5. One thing that held back my confdence was
my lack of qualifcations. I was born in London
but lived in Cambridge, place that prizes academic
achievement. I signed up for lots of courses and
bulked up my CV with some impressive stuff like
being a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA). Not at
all related to PU but it gave me confdence.
6. By studying NLP, psychology, and hypnosis, I
became more artful in my use of language and
used the techniques of infuence to make people
like me. I was good on job interviews and started
to make connections and have some success
socially.
By this point, I was still useless with women, we
are in mid-2005 now. Id only slept with one girl!
I started approaching sometimes in bars, very
rarely got numbers, and never progressed things
to a physical level.
Then in September 2005, I met Tyler Durden
in Starbucks, Leicester Sq, London, and it all
changed
Evolution Of A PUA: Part 3 Game Time
So I was sitting in Starbucks, Leicester Sq, London
one day in September 2005. I lived in Cambridge at
the time but used to come down to London every
10 days or so to hang out with my cousin.
We happened to be sitting next to what I would
later fnd out to be an RSD bootcamp. Tyler was
there, and about 7 students. I was listening in
trying to fgure out what the hell was going on.
My best guess was speed-dating.
I asked Tyler (who was kind of overseeing things)
and he broke it all down to me. Told me to buy
The Game, etc. At the time, it was interesting, but
I couldnt imagine any of these guys being good
with women.
Fast forward a couple of weeks, ive read the game
and now have the idea that there are these super-
hero PUA dudes that can have any woman they
want. With this as my new end-goal, I decide to
gobble up, packman-style, all the information I
can fnd on the subject.
Right after reading the game and a few other
things I take a trip to Singapore. On the trip I get
my frst one night stand. She basically PUd me
60%, but at least I didnt make the mistakes of old.
She was hot-ish, I was attracted to her. I was
very proud of myself. I came back to England and
carried on with the theory. I used to watch DVD
programs on the PC whilst watching the stock
market and making the occasional trade (my job
at the time).
I kept a notebook of all the cool ideas. Id listen to
audio products before sleeping, when cooking and
eating, cleaning, travelling, playing playstation,
etc. Between November 2005 and March 2006,
I must have gone through a thousand hours or
more of products.
Some of my favourite ones at the time were David
Deangelos audio series - Interviews with Dating
Gurus, his DVDs including Double Your Dating,
the Mystery Method ebook (but not so much the
DVDs), Swinggcats Real World Seduction audio,
and RSD/Tylers Surviving the Game of Dating.
During this time, I didnt do much in terms of PU.
I came to London to visit my cousin and did the
occasional approach. The problem was that all
this theory was diffcult to structure, I basically
had a collection of cool lines and fun things to say.
I had no idea how to link them all together.
I remember a turning point for me. I was in
Starbucks, mixed 3-set, I sprung into action using
a situational opener - Can I look at your tube
map, I need to get to errrrr Kentish Town! They
helped me out, I transition into what they are
doing in London etc. I ask boring questions, but
then something happened, they said they were
learning English.
I talked about how I trained to be an English
teacher, how I did it in Seville, and how people
come to learn English and then they live with
people from their own country. I was talking for
30 seconds, they were listening with interest, and
laughing a bit, I felt a buzz.
Id never had 3 people watching me and listening
to me talk with interest before. I went red and
was sweating but it was a great result.Small talk
continued, then they said some tiny objection like
we are meeting our friend soon, so I made an
excuse to leave (I was looking for one I guess!).
Sat back down, they seemed to linger around
suggesting please n-close us, please! but I let
them go with a goodbye. This counted as my frst
real approach. Before that, id talked to a girl on
the train and n-closed but it was not really a cold
approach because she came and sat next to me.
Id n-closed a couple of girls in bars over the
previous two years (literally less than 5!). It made
me grow in confdence.Around this time I had
the dream of being the best PUA in London and
training people, and even having a Project London.
I talked about this with my cousin. I made the
plan to move to London in March 2006.
On 24th March 2006, I moved into my place in
Leicester Sq, London. My goals: to become great
with women, to meet cool people and develop a
social circle, to have a blast!Cambridge allowed
me to fnd myself, study hard, improve, now it was
time to put it into action.
Evolution Of A PUA: Part 4 Make Or
Break
I wanted to move to London for years. I was never
happy living in Cambridge. Ithought it was too
small, I thought the people were unfriendly and
boring, and I didnt have the kind of social life that
I wanted.
Why did I wait so long? I found out the real
answer, and thismight be the same thing that
holds you back in many areas of your life, it was
a HUGE realisation: I was afraid that if I moved
to London and it was a failure, id be back in
Cambridge AND I would no longer have thedream
of something better to hold onto.
So at its core, it was fear of failure. Look at any
bigsteps that you have avoided taking and maybe
it is the same reason. But I fnally did do it..
I basically didnt know anyone when I moved
down. My fatmates were cool, and we got on, but
they had no social cirlce so I didnt get to meet
people that way. What happened was thatI found
some London PUAs (from The London Seduction
Society/LSS) and hooked up with them.
I went out on some group sarges and met them
and gave them the kind of respect id give Mystery
himself. We went to some bars, but I quickly
foundout that most of these guys could talk a
good talk, look alpha, have an alpha-handshake
and a cool walk, but they didnt seem to be able to
open, hold, and close a set.
I hadto ratchet down my expectations a little bit.
Over the next few weeks, I met some more of
theseguys. Most of them I didnt really want
to hang out with, but I did meet two - Eugene
andConor, who were cool guys and I tried to go
out with these guys to clubs as much as possible.
I was going out 4 nights a week. At this point,
id been to a club less than 30 times, and was
completely uncomfortable in the environment. So
these nights would normally entail us opening 20
or so sets, not many would hold.
I was overcoming my AA, and a couple of times I
did get into sets that hooked and was ableto have
a nice conversation using my pre-existing skills in
one-on-one conversations that comefrom having
the introvert qualities of being a good listener and
being empathetic.
I had a regular night out in Covent Garden with
my wing Conor where I started to get some good
results. Wed run some good wing game with each
of us isolating a chick and id try to connect and
get a number close.
When you are winging, it is pretty easy not to get
blown out, because when those moments where
the conversation dips happen, the girl looks at her
friend, she is in set and happy so she re-engages.
Holding on your own requires a lot more skill.
I was able to get a few number closes. They didnt
convert and I had no idea to kino-escalate to a
k-close in the club.I have to say that by now I was
pretty confdent. The girls I was approaching were
often hot and they did compliment me on my
looks. It was new and it was good.
The next big realisation happened about 3 weeks
into my London adventure. I was in a Sohu club
with Conor and the person I took over my room
from and Conor approached a Swedish 2-set.
I didnt go and wing straight away because I was
having a go at an Australian chick. It didnt go too
far, so I decided to go and wing him. It was an 18
year old Swedish chick. Pretty cute. I was there for
AN HOUR talking to her, then I told her to move
up and sat down next to her, carried on talking.
I was getting no touching from her, and didnt
know what the hell to do. My one night stand in
Singapore only happened because she touched
my leg frst and I just matched her kino-escalation
and then lead with the kiss.Anyhow, I said to
myself fuck it and put my arm around her and
went for the kiss.
Lo-and-behold it worked, she was into it. Now
I know I probably could have done it after
30 seconds, but the point was that it shifted
something in my mind - you dont need to ask if it
is okay to kiss.
Conor left early because his chick didnt pan out.
When they left, looking back, it would have been
an easy f-close with my girl (other one was happy
to leave her in my care!) and even a pretty simple
3-some.
But I didnt because I was probably buzzing from
the k-close and didnt imagine it was possible.I
was now happy in London, I had friends and I felt
like I was in control of things a little more. I had a
lot of confdence and was on a high because I now
was able to attract and seduce women.
Evolution Of A PUA: Part 5 Loser To PUA
To Natural
I learnt the basic structure of a pickup from
6 months of theory and a few weeks in feld.
Admittedly I spent way too long geeking out on
the material. I learnt way more from going out
and doing stuff. I spent the next month going
out and refning my approach. We used a lot of
canned material - should I die my hair blonde,
best friends test, palmistry etc. It worked to hook
the sets.
My frst fclose came one night in a Covent Garden
club. My friend identifed an HB, I sat next to her,
just chatted, in terms of lines used, maybe some
C&F and I did bust out one of my own speed
seduction patterns when I had her isolated (I
havent used this stuff since ust because it hasnt
been necessary).
I tried some light kino - touching her leg and arm
and she reciprocated. I went for the kiss after
about 5 minutes. She was tall, blonde, thin,blue
eyes. Now shed be average, but at the time, she
was very hot.
I lead her around the club -lets go get a drink, lets
dance, lets sit down. We got quite hot and heavy
and then I just got up and said lets go, she
started walking with me but asked where and I
said somewhere else and walked her out of the
club to my house. Got the wine out and smoothly
escalated with no resistance.
Ill leave out the details! Met her for a date
another day and the attraction had vanished,
I didnt like that she smoked, I didnt like her
accent, I didnt like her shoes or the way she
walked.
I felt like Jerry Seinfeld for dumping the girl for
silly reasons but I didnt call her again.
Over the next month I got plenty of k-closes and a
couple more f-closes. I did about 4 salsa classes. I
didnt PU any girls in the class because they were
generally not up to standard but Idid devise my
salsa escalation where I go and ask the girl if she
can salsa and then salsa my way into a k-close.
I got a Serbian chick in 1-minute with this and she
was a virgin, 7 hours of LMR before she slept with
me and then she was my GF for about a month.6
foot tall, toned & tanned body, blonde, blue eyes.
During that time I think I only k-closed one other
girl and that was when I trained with Brent (from
various Double Your Dating video series and as
seen on Cliffs List). He came over in May and I
decided that either id learn loads or id realise
that I could do it too. I paid $1000 + expenses for
an evening from 7pm to 2am.
He was good looking, confdent and cool. The
training wasnt very good because:He didnt demo
anything cool.He couldnt hold the rest of a 3 set
when I engaged one of the girls (they dragged
her away).He only said I should talk louder and
escalate faster. That was his only advice.
Very nice guy though and maybe my level was
already just damn high. Anyhow, I pulled a
nice HB that night. This was the frst time I was
disappointed with the skills of a well-known guru.
There were many more to come in the next few
months! My attitude now when I meet famous
PUAs is Hey, if they are great ill learn something
and if they arent, it makes me more confdent.
Win Win!
Over the next few months I improved my game,
gained more confdence, had more hot girls,
and met various infuential charatcers, most
importantly - Steve Jabba AKA Vertex and Anthony
P. We went out a lot and gamed together.
In June I had started Puatraining.com and had
been doing 1-on-1s. I was a skilled teacher, could
clearly communicate things, and was able to
analyse the persons strengths and weaknesses
very quicly and give them practical advice.
Through teaching, I learned by stuff way more
tightly and was forced to game. I learnt how to
control my state instead of only being able to
game when I felt like it.
In July I went on holiday for 2 months with
Steve and we went out 40 out of 44 nights in 11
countries. During this holiday my kino, non-verbal
pickup, dance-foor game, etc all got a huge boost.
Steve is a legend and few people have seen his
skills when he is at the top of his game. I saw him
do things a couple fo times on holiday that gave
me the shivers! Next level game.
Fast forward to today. I am going to parties
with celebrities to learn how to game in
those environments, im working with the
guys here to further refne the system, im
travelling to different countries to test my game
internationally.
How do I pick up chicks now? I have an
unbreakable routine stack that can get me
laid every day of the week, one that uses an
unbreakable opener, NLP, calculated responses,
built in emotional spikes, push-pull, DHVs, my SS
patterns. BUT I DONT USE IT! I want to be able to
game naturally.
I dont wantto know what im going to say next.
I like to test my intelligence and exercise my
mentalmuscles. I want to make a better self
instead of making a character that I can step into
and act out.
My indirect game usually involves a situational
opener, cocky funny, rapport and deep rapport,
kino-escalation, close. Pretty simple right?My
Direct game is: force IOI, kino opener, afc fuff
with sexual undertones, quick close. Of course,
I might use routines again at some point in the
future.
Right now, I just want to round-out my game
some more and learn from guys that have
something unique to offer. Now I have confdence
and an energy that projects from that confdence.
I used routines when I frst started and many
high-level guys still use them. Its a personal
choice. For a newbie, routines are the fastest way
to get improvement and thats why we teach both
on our courses: routines, canned openers.
A structure for any pickup.The skills that you
need to be a natural.My ex-students all game
differently, they are not robotic, and some have
gone the natural route and some the routine
route. All of them seem to improve markedly for
months afterwards.
Success?Email me for my HB pics! I meet a girl
of high quality once every 3 weeks. Can k-close
any time I go out. Can f-close multiple times a
week. The only things that hold me back are:Busy
with the business.Not enough hot girls in London
clubs!Sex drive is not so high that I need 7 girls a
week.I get more out of a loving relationship than
lots of casual sex.
(Picture, London, 2007)
Gamblers Philosophy Of Happiness:
Part 1
In the past, before mass communication and
globalisation, a persons frame of reference was
his peer group and the people he came into
personal contact with. Today, our peer group is
still our primary frame of reference, but now there
are also people we know of and know about, like
celebrities. We come to know about these people
and they can exert just as strong an infuence
on us as our peer group does. First the world is
brought into our lives through the internet and
TV: amounting to 1385 messages a day. Because
our peer group is subjected to the same onslaught,
we would are infected through them, even if we
could avoid it all.
Global travel means people from different cultures
live in one place. In the 1900s example, the man
in the village who had a full-time manual labour
job, had a healthy family, and was married to a
woman who he thought could be a good carer for
him and their family had everything he thought
life had to offer. He didnt expect that he could
ever be the factory owner, because that man
was educated and had inherited wealth, unlike
himself. He didnt expect that he could be married
to a beautiful or upper class woman, because he
was working class and not so fnancially secure.
He didnt expect that he could live in a mansion,
because there was no frame of reference of a
normal working class person who had achieved
that.
In modern times, 90% of people are educated
up to a point where they consider themselves
literate. Class lines have been blurred and wealth
and class no longer correlate to the same extent.
Because our basic needs of health, food, clothing,
and shelter are almost guaranteed, we take them
for granted and they are not enough to make us
happy because our frame of reference does not
include contact with people who dont have these
basic needs taken care of. Wealth and success are
no longer confned to inherited wealth, genius, or
super hard work. Every person knows of a story of
someone getting rich very quickly and easily by a
method that seems in reach of the average person.
We are presented with an infnite amount of
choice, which is some ways is good, and in others,
isnt. When people were born, took on the trade
of their parents, and stayed in that profession
until they died, and considered themselves to
have had a good life if their children were married
and healthy, the lack of choice meant constant
contentment. People today would fnd it diffcult
to be content with a life like that, because they
are aware of all the choices that now are possible.
Choices make people unsure, they are unhappy
with their job because they know that there are
other jobs that might be better for them. If you
live in the city, you know that you could live in the
countryside and vice versa.
Media. Advertising. Politics people focussing on
wealth and other distractions suits politicians.
Cheap media set the agenda. Getting rich with
no talent is a new phenomenon. Media mainly
shows positive side of shallow materialism
instead of chastising it and promoting intelligence
and wisdom. There has been a degeneration of
language and values. Easy money is only available
to the top percentile but the whole population
aspires to it. There has been a role reversal in the
gender stakes with the feminisation of men and
masculinisation of women. Relationships are over
complicated with games and what you should/not
do dictating events.Casual sex is promoted and
means people in settled relationships cheat more
and are not as easily satisfed with what they
have.
When you buy something is a big motivating
factor the expected response you will get from
other people? Do you imagine what they will
say when they see your new suit, electronics,
jewellery? Was the need to buy this item driven
internally or was it by external infuence?
Gamblers Philosophy Of Happiness:
Part 2
Your peers are your peers because they legitimise
your lifestyle, the same is true for drug addicts or
criminals. Whatever you do and think, you can
always fnd similar people to legitimise it. It is
common to say but person X is even worse. This
mindset does not serve you, because it is a way of
avoiding progressive change. Most people are not
surrounded by positive infuences. We generally
do not have the grounding of a close extended
family. This means that the people we use for
support do not always genuinely wish us well.
Maybe if we do something they are scared to do,
like make a big change, they will discourage us
because it would make them feel bad if you could
do it. Sure, they will support you, but probably
only until you start doing better than them, and
only while you continue to legitimise their life
style. Try going from a party animal, recreational
drug user, with no hobbies; to a serious, hard
working, interesting person and still keep the
same friends.
When we do not have the peer group that is
positive about what we want to do, and can
show us better ways to live through example, we
need to make changes. It is possible to surround
yourself with models for success through books,
audio courses, and media. Knowing the stories
of Edison, Da Vinci, Tesla, etc will be inspirational.
This inspiration is what will allow you to break
out past your perceived limits. Once you know
what is possible, you will want more for yourself.
Generally people stagnate and dont progress as
their peer groups will too. Try to surround yourself
with models for success. After you spend an hour
with someone, ask do I feel more positive for
spending that hour with that person, in 75% of
cases, the answer will be no.
Gamblers Philosophy Of Happiness:
Part 3
I have an even keel philosophy, I believe that the
ebbs and fows of mood are not a necessity. You
can be happy one day, and then the next day, with
nothing new happening, you can be unhappy.
Most people believe that it is like a sine wave, and
that they are held hostage to their emotions. Oh
I am having a bad day. There are two steps that
will allow you to conquer 90% of these negative
emotions that are thought of as ebbs and fows.
The frst is to become aware of the base cause,
and the second is to be able to disassociate from
the emotion and understand and control it.
To become, you can perform the following
simple task that you will fnd very powerful. Take
a sheet of paper and write down all the things
you are unhappy with about yourself (not your
possessions, your self) in pencil:
I am ugly.
I am fat.
I am single.
I am lonely.
I am poor.
Notice how you feel when you write these
statements, you are now at a low ebb, just as
you might be any day when you are having a
bad day. Now do the opposite and write all the
positive things on a different sheet of paper.
I am a good mother
I am funny.
I am intelligent.
I am outgoing and friendly.
I am popular, and people like to be around me.
People will have more trouble with the second list
in general, because our culture does not promote
bragging. Try to fnd as many things as you can
though. Every person will be able to list at least
10 positive things about themselves. Read the
positive list again. Notice how you immediately
feel better, as if you are at a high ebb, and feel like
you would if you were having a good day. How
you feel from day to day is simply a matter of this
changing focus. On a negative day, your focus is
on the things in the negative list, on a positive day,
your focus is on the things on the positive list.
Your next goal is to restrict the things that you are
unhappy about to things that you cannot change.
On my personal list, the things that I cannot
change all relate to physical appearance. Every
person has issues with their physical appearance,
no matter how attractive you might think they
are. With physical appearance, it is possible
to make incremental improvements. Fix your
fashion sense, whiten your teeth, get a tan, get in
better shape, lose weight, have a great haircut. All
these will make incremental improvements that
will make you happier. You will NEVER be 100%
satisfed with your appearance so you need to
accept yourself.
Gamblers Philosophy Of Happiness:
Part 4
Lets start a new list that reframes any negative
things in a positive way instead of saying Im
stupid and dont know anything say I want to
learn interesting things and be more educated.
Also include other things that didnt make you
unhappy but that you would like to do. Write
down your goals in this way. I did this for the frst
time 3 years ago and have done it every 18 months
since then. The list included things like:
I want to be funnier.
I want to learn psychology.
I want to be more outgoing and comfortable in
social settings.
I want to understand relationships better.
I want to have a better voice.
I want to learn about and improve my body
language.
I want to improve my posture.
Rules: do not use negative contructions, i.e. do not
say I am not stupid, say I am clever.
The next step is to make a plan of how you can
achieve each of these aims. For me, the answers
were: read book - comedy writing secrets,
watch and listen to a lot of comedy; read NLP
& psychology books, sign up for courses; Do
TEFL course in Seville for 5 weeks, teaching and
working with strangers forcing social interaction
and public speaking each day additional
achievement improved English grammar skills;
start with book Emotional Intelligence, and
study the area; read book Set your voice free,
and sign up to voice workshop; study high status
and cool role models on flm & television and try
to see what they do and copy it in the mirror!
Read books and watch videos on body language;
Take a lesson in Alexander technique.
Normally when people talk about what they want,
they start with I want to have, not I want to do.
Its moot to say thats just the way I am
Gamblers Philosophy Of Happiness:
Part 5
Most people use distractions from themselves- TV,
drinking, socialising, internet, talking on phone. If
everyone was in a darkened room with no sound
and thought about themselves and their life, how
many would be happy?
Most people say I want to have, not I want to do.
Collecting material goods so you have them in the
bank, at least I have my stamps. Externalised
showings of confdence include clothes, cars,
lifestyle. These are very weak compared to
internal displays of confdence that can be
steadfast in any situation without the need for
fashy clothes and a Ferrari.
Take two people in the same situation except one
that is happy will have a different focus to one
that is not. Once you understand what is going on
inside, you can disassociate and take control. It is
the fst step. We are not slaves to our emotions:
we are in control of them. We do not need to be
feeling down today and feeling great the next
with no changes. Negative messages advertising,
bad people- can always be found and those
who are successful are always at risk of being
undermined by jealous rivals. Complete arrogance
inside leads to much better results. To balance
all the negativity, surround yourself with positive
role models that become like friends, affrmations,
subliminal stuff, music, flm. Strive to seek out the
positive.
Anthony P: Being in the moment
why it is so diffcult
Being in the moment is in many respects the
opposite process to the normal functioning of the
brain, which appears to be the chunking together
of moments into familiar scenes and patterns to
be matched with familiar responses and solutions.
This saves the brain a lot of work, so its natural
mechanism is to pull me out of the moment
and back into my head. Being in my head or
thinking relies on the reasonable assumption
that nothing particularly fatal is likely to happen
over a period of several moments and that the
brain can use that time to put its feet up and
generate a response to a chunk of moments rather
than create each moment from frst principles.
Being in the moment, in each and every moment,
is therefore something like an act of will where
the will persuades the brain that each moment
is actually fatal; this requires me to be intensely
interested in what is going on outside my head,
and to live each moment as if it were my last.
Top players often report on how they see game
situations open up as if they were in the matrix;
sports players talk about how time stands still
and suddenly they see the playing area as a
space without time. These players are able to see
being in the moment as an act of will, attention
as something we really do pay (for), and being
interested in the world outside our head as a
simple discipline which can be developed and
strengthened. Many of the techniques of pick-up
purport to teach a man how to be interesting
telling stories and jokes, performing magic tricks,
having exciting hobbies, but the argument which
follows here is that we are never more interesting
than when we are interested in the other person.
Steve: What are girls all about?
Consider girls. What are girls all about?
Hot girls are human beings. Same as me and you.
They eat food and they shit it out. They urinate.
They get bad breath.
They have insecurites, same as me and you.
Maybe worseWe live in a society that BREEDS
them. Hev you ever opened a really hot girl
and been AMAZED at how she reacts to you?
Friendly, open, even a little insecure? maybe a LOT
insecure??
When youre dealing with girls, no matter what
youre level, what kind of girl you are used to, bear
all of the above in mind. Remember it.
When they shit test you, or when they go quiet,
or when they look at you in a particlar way,
remember that they are living inside their own
head. If they are quiet, DONT think does she like
me, is she offended, why is she quiet, why is she
smiling? Is she laughing at me?
Sit still, quiet your revving mind. Dont think
about what she is thinking.Often you will be
wrong. I promise you. And worse : if you imagine
these things you will MAKE HER THINK THEM.
She will sense it, girls are AMAZINGLY perceptive
about this kind of stuff. So Dont worry about what
she is thinking, dont allow yourself to indulge
in negative and debilitating thought loops. Dont
imagine or consider that she is thinking badly of
you..Really really try to just live in the moment.
Take in the environment, notice what is going
on around you. Smile at her. If she is nervous or
skittish, think to yourself, I AM A MAN goddamit, I
WILL NOT let myself think badly of myself. She is
a girl, and she is faced with her own pressures.
Really try not to put her on a pedastal.. I tell you
with full truth that even the hottest girls have all
sorts of funny shit fying around in their head.
So many people are putting on an act. Dont do
this. Be yourself, your best self. Ask the question
of yourself - do I like this girl? Why do I like her?
Look at her face when she is talking, look at her
body. Do you want her? Then just try and imagine,
convincingly that YOU CAN HAVE HER. You can.
You can have her, girls want to be taken. They long
for a man that will take her and ravish her.
Keep that one simple truth in mind and all
other stuff becomes irrelevantJust be strong in
yourself, like a rock and nothing else matters
Forget everything else.
Refexs fast escalation bar-game
Guys
Here is one basic method I use to go very quickly
from meeting an HB in a high-energy bar to going
straight to kino, rapport and quite often a k-close
at super-fast speed. I dont always use routines for
bar game opinion openers, wanted or needed,
how soon is too soon etc. Dont get me wrong,
they are powerful, Ive seen them work and they
are good for students because they give you a set
speech to make, thereby removing the anxiety of
not knowing what to say. But if youre feeling
confdent try this 4-step approach.
1. Force the IOI. An HB walks past you at the bar:
force an IOI. A cheeky grin, a point, Becksters
classic hide-behind-the-hand manoeuvre,
anything.
2. Get kino. If she smiles or in any way gives an IOI
from step 1 then simply raise your class to clink,
or put your hand up for the high fve. Do with a
BIG SMILE! If she clinks your glass or returns the
high fve then ITS ON. Move quickly to no 3.
3. Introduction. This is the crucial part. Offer a
HANDSHAKE with a BIG SWEEPING GESTURE,
and say Hi, Im !! I sometimes dont go for small
talk, asking opinions etc, I just introduce myself.
You see, if youve got an IOI and a glass clink that
means she is open and so introducing yourself
will not feel odd to her. The critical thing with
step 3 is CONFIDENDCE. You must speak loudly,
confdently and act as if you will not tolerate
refusal!
Offering a handshake with a big arm movement
is almost impossible to ignore. Try it with people
you meet in other environments the offce,
or wherever. It puts enormous pressure on the
person to offer their hand in return because
ignoring it will leave the person feeling as if
theyve been terribly rude! Its a very British
thing thats ingrained into all of us. Salesmen in
shopping centres or the street use this technique
to get members of the public to interact with
them, and I see them do it all the time.
But confdence is the key. If you meekly offer a
limp handshake while stammering your name,
it is easy for her to shrug you off and walk on. If
you stand tall (no side approaches this time, be
direct and dominant) and loudly and confdently
offer your name and hand she will return the
shake and tell you her name back. It works. No
matter what else, she will be impressed by your
confdence.
4. Humour. After shes taken your hand and said
her name say Nice to meet you . I was worried,
for a minute I thought you were the bouncer. This
should get a laugh, it relieves some of the tension
and will relax her (and you).
You could use your own bit of humour, just make
one up. It doesnt have to be
absolutely hilarious, but needs to relax the
situation. Thanks for offering, but Ill get my own
drink, or whatever you want.
So thats it. IOI-kino-introduction-humour. Those
4 steps. Where you go from there is up to you,
but Ive closed very quickly from this. The point
is youre compressing many of the elements of a
pick-up into less than 10 seconds. Youve broken
the ice, got her name, had some kino and shown
youre confdent and humourous. Obviously with
most girls youll need to go into rapport at some
stage but a lot of the work has already been done.
The good thing is you can tell from her reaction to
step 1 (the forced IOI) whether she is open. If she
is, then its on. Have fun with this one!
Refexs situational openers : Queues
For queues, in any environment. It could be for a
bar, cloakroom, cash machine, cafe or checkout at
Tescos. If there is an HB in the queue in front of
you as you join here are a few options:
1. Is this the queue for the good looking people??!
Dyou mind if I join it?!!!
I use this one all the time and it NEVER fails to
get a smirk, smile, laugh or verbal response from
a woman, no matter how grumpy, sour-faced or
closed they might look. Its hard not to smile when
someone says it. Its also very good for when
theres a group of girls, it makes them feel good
(isnt that what everyone wants?) Its also paying
them a subtle compliment. But the key here is
HOW you say it. Its hard to describe in writing but
you should say it playfully, with a slight smirk,
and a glint in your eye.
You can combine it with a subtle fnger-point
and head-tilt, as if youre sharing a conspiracy
theory with someone. If youre feeling bold you
can continue the joke by asking them if they could
please keep all those people over there away from
our queue, its just for us you know!
2. For a very very long queue youve just joined,
one that will take ages ask the girl if theyre
providing deck chairs for us while we wait?!
3. For long queues: I dont know whats going on
here, but it looks like it must be interesting so I
thought Id join.
4. Simply say Whos playing? Say with faux
seriousness. A girl with a sense of humour will get
the joke!
Refex: Gaming on the tube - part 1
2 million people a day use the tube. Thats a lot
of HBs, whichever way you look at it. Ive started
gaming on the tube in earnest in the last few
months and have started getting numbers and
dates. Ive put together some guidelines that Ive
found useful; I say guidelines rather than rules
because you need to be fexible when you do pick-
up!
1st guideline: ignore what everyone says about
the underground that everyones miserable, that
you must never talk or make eye contact with
anyone, etc. Bollocks! If no other guy does that,
well, great, that means less competition for you!
Contrast that with a nightclub when every chump
is hitting on the girls. Plus HBs wont be expecting
an approach on their journey home!
2nd guideline: ignore other passengers.
Sometimes when Im gaming I get a little
audience listening in over the tops of their
newspapers. Blank them out and keep going. If
you show your nervousness you will communicate
that to the girl. Conversely if you show youre
comfortable with the situation then the girl will
share your confdence. Remember, people get on
and off tubes all the time and your eavesdroppers
will always get bored lose interest after all, they
have their lives to get on with, and other things to
do.
3rd guideline: dont linger and let a girl see you
checking her out before you approach. Always try
and make it look SPONTANEOUS. Especially on
platforms. Through trial and error Ive found thats
the key. Thats the value of the 3-second rule. As
soon as she sees you, you MUST talk.
4th guideline: if you want to game on the
platform, check on the electronic board to see
when the next tube is due. If its less than 2 or 3
minutes you might want to wait until you both get
on the tube itself. The reason, Ive found, is this.
If you chat for 30 seconds and then a train comes
roaring in to the station and theres lots of hustle
and bustle as everyone gets on and off, then in
the confusion the girls state will be broken,
you lose what little rapport youve established
and its hard to restart again on the train. Also,
after such a brief conversation she may not be
comfortable with you sitting next to/opposite her.
If by contrast the next train is due in 5 minutes
or more, then ok that should be enough time to
establish some rapport on the platform, maybe
share a joke etc. Then when the train comes and
theres a break in the conversation shell feel
comfortable continuing your chat and comfortable
sitting near you. You can more easily pick up
where you left off. Get it?
Ok, thats the guidelines done. Now what do
you actually say?! Sorry to keep you in suspense
buttune in next week for part 2 of my post for
the answers!
Refexs Tube Game - part 2
Game is game. It doesnt really matter where you
do it, on the tube or anywhere else. In part 1 I
discussed timing and attitude. The guidelines are
the same: you really do have to do virtually all of
the talking for the frst 30 seconds or so; make
your approach look spontaneous (dont linger);
speak with confdence; hold eye contact; plow
through if she is unresponsive; feed off any verbal
hooks you get.
So lets get into what to say. Here are some
examples:
Is this the train for Hammersmith?Yes/no/etc
Are you sure?!! I hope so. Cos when I was a kid
and people used to ask me that Id deliberately
tell them the wrong thing to screw them up. I was
basically a little shit. Youre not like that are you?!
Do you know how long the train takes to reach x?
Better than have you been waiting long which
has pick-up written all over it
I fnd this works well at initiating chat. You
may get a one-word answer yes or no so the
important thing is to plow with talk about trains:
how awful they are, how you have to get to such-
and-such etc
Other platform openers: Dont jump, its not
worth it! (If shes close to the platform edge) Oh
my God, did you see that mouse?! I saw it just
now (You dont have to actually see one,
obviously. But this ALWAYS gets a response, girls
fnd it impossible to ignore, so its very solid.)
Did you hear that busker?! Hes pretty good. I
used to be one myself. Really?! No. But thanks
for believing me. This usually gets a laugh.
I think were standing in the best/worst place to
get a seat. This is good because when the train
comes the two of you can put your prediction to
the test and therefore have something natural to
talk about, even if she hasnt said much about it
on the platform.
If there is a seat next to her, and shes noticed
youre walking towards it :Oh, were you saving
this seat for me?!If you get a laugh, start talking.
By the way, this works for seats anywhere.
If she has an ipod: Hey, cool ipod, I bet you pirate
your music, right? Me too, what do you pirate?
This has to be spontaneous. Dont worry, they
ALWAYS take their earphones out if they cant
hear you!
Eye-Coding: This is a good one for packed tubes
(or trains or buses). If something happens, like
someone wont move down, or is annoying other
passengers by talking too loudly on their phone
or causing a problem by having too many bags
then you can sort of look at her, and raise your
eyes to heaven as if to say : For Gods sake! Some
people! If you get a reciprocal eye-code back from
her, as if shes saying Yeah, I know! then youre
good to go. Start talking. If she has funky clothes,
bag, or apparel:
You look like you like shopping! Plow with
chat about shopping: I bet youre one of these
girls who pushes people out of the way in
sales! Making assumptions is one of the keys to
getting over awkward silences and keeping the
conversation going.
I have gamed girls successfully by looking for
situational stuff to open with - Ive asked girls if
they want to swap papers (or even books!) that
theyre reading; told them not to use that vending
machine because it will take their money; asked if
they have something with just celebrity photos in
it for me to read because Im sick of reading books
with wordsthe key with all these is delivery with
cheekiness and a grin.
And dont forget forcing IOIs like we show you
on the bootcamps! If youre eagle-eyed you will
see girls checking you out! Finally : dont be
embarrassed to ask for a number or a date - if you
are nervous you can wait until you are just about
to get off anyway, or wait till you both get off. And
ignore the other passengers who may eavesdrop
on you. They will get off soon anyway!
Introduction to Dirty Cardenas
Hi I am Dirty Cardenas and I am an evil PUA, I will
bum your mother.
I am a natural and have pretty much always been
good with girls. I came into the community a year
ago with the intention of meeting some absolute
heroes and going out and having threesomes with
super models every week. Unfortunately I found
that the community in London is comprised
mostly of key board jockeys who spend the
majority of the time bickering on internet forums
and theorising as to the best way to get a woman
as opposed to going out and actually f*cking some
women.
By the grace of God I some how managed to meet
Vertex (Steve Jabba) and Beckster. Later on Vertex
introduced me to Gambler and so here I am. I am
one of the bootcamp instructors and specialise in
Inner Game, Dominance, Sexual Confdence and
Female Ejaculation.
I hope the stories I share help you achieve
whatever it is you hope to achieve as a PUA.
Cardenas: Owning the frame
Last Sunday I went on a date with a girl that Id
actually dropped a while back. She is pretty hot
and a model. But about 2 months ago she annoyed
me so I dumped her. Last week guess what - she
sent me a text out of the blue saying hi, its been a
long time, how are you? I could tell what she was
angling for so I thought Id meet her.
On the date I didnt make any move on her
early on. I just kept my distance and talked
politely. I didnt say Oh its so nice to see you
again or any such thing. After all, Id dumped her
because she had shown a jealous streak and had
annoyed me. She said I was different and that
I was hard to work out. We eventually went on
to a nightclub and I fnally k-closed her etc. But
I didnt try and get her back to mine, I told her I
was going and left early. Shes not used to being
dumped, I think, and after dropping her I made
sure I didnt contact her for a few months at all,
so she had to get in touch with me if she wanted
to. I had moved on and she had faded from my
mind. Now shes bought into my frame and I have
more control. Im still considering what sort of
relationship, if any, I want from her.
Another story: This weekend Im going away for
a few days with another girl. She used to be my
girlfriend way back last year, but I ended it for
similar reasons to the girl above. Until Id dumped
her she had been in complete control of me
- shed left me dangling as if I were on a piece of
string, constantly changing her mind about me,
blowing hot and cold, telling me when I could
see her and deciding when I could visit her. She
was not averse to firting with other men either
(she is tall, blonde and very attractive). It left me
in the supplicating role in the relationship and
demoralised me completely, as I had totally fallen
for her.
Then I discovered Game, the PU community, and
entered the world that you too have now entered.
I knew Id allowed her to set the frame and
dominate me. So when she continued to mess me
around I gave her an ultimatum to start treating
me properly - and when she didnt change I
dumped her. She went pretty hysterical when I
gave her the news but I refused to buckle or relent.
Quite a few months of no contact went by and
I moved on - then she got back in touch, asking
to see me again, saying shed missed me etc. Id
moved on from being besotted and no longer felt
that way, but was ok with seeing her again. Now
its me that is in control. I decide when to see her,
where, and for how long. Same principle: always
own the frame.
There are lessons in all of this:
1. Dont go chasing like a desperado. Know when
to draw the line. Make her wait if necessary.
Always have things you can fall back on - career,
interests, hobbies, mates, whatever.
2. If you know for sure that a girl is simply using
you and playing you: tell her point blank that you
wont stand for it. If she continues, BREAK IT OFF.
This is vital. Never be talked out of it. Otherwise
you will end up like so many suckers out there,
trapped in a relationship you feel is controlled
by a woman who knows you will always come
crawling back . And that, my friend, is a very very
bad place to be. All your self-respect will dribble
away pitifully. The more attractive the girl, the You
must know some men who have fallen into that,
as do I. Im not suggesting you just dump a girl at
the slightest thing that annoys you or that you
dont try to work things out; just dont let yourself
be taken for a ride (no, not THAT sort of ride!)
Remember, if the girl wants and values you SHE
will re-initiate things. If she doesnt then shes
not worth your precious time. Find someone else.
Dont worry, you will. That way you will keep your
self-respect. And if she does come back, YOU and
not her, are in control.
Beckster: Game Science Formula
These are new techniques which a small team of
us have been developing and using over the past 2
years.
Went out with Lord o Lust or LOL for short, just for
a few drinks to chat to him about DeepGame, LOL
told me some great stories which we will develop
into spiked stories. We decide to go to a salsa
place, I open a 2 set HB7.5Slovak and HB7Polish,
can speak a few sentence in both languages make
them laugh, I anchor it in case I want to talk to
them again, but not really my type. Beckon over a
well suited girl HB8suit with my fnger, she walks
over and imitates me with a fnger motion.
I ask her if she is a secret agent, because of her
suit and that she was surveying the area.
Turns out she is the managers top hired gun, this
should be fun. Run some stuff on her, neg her,
etc. Some people come in so we move to the cash
register so she can charge them admission. I ask
her if she lets in boys that she fancies for free, she
said its happened once or twice, I say to her great
Im in free all the time then, she smiles and nods.
I run my famous fsh routine on her as its in her
palm more customers come in but she doesnt put
it down she admits them, taking cash and giving
hand stamps with one hand, still holding up my
fsh as if it were real. I neg her about it then tell
her fortune, told her Im going to a better club in
Chelsea and shell be lucky to see me again. Left
it at that as its better not to pull her as she can
be more useful letting me in for free. I told her as
I let that Ive been stealing glasses from her bar
for 5 years and that if she wants them back shell
have to drive over and collect them, she laughed
and said I know, I let you because I like your eyes
(she said this in a jokey way). I said yeah, and I
catch you checking out my ass all the time! and
walk out without a good bye.
Lord o Lust says his goodbyes and I head to
Chelsea, not much live but I see one bar and in the
window a lone girl so I enter and as I walk in I give
her a wink then up to the bar order a drink, she is
still watching me. I walk over and -
Me:Do you know what. oh sorry are you with
you boyfriend as I point to the pint glass near her
(you all know what I doing in that one sentence
right? Interest and analysing the situation.
HB8Scandi: NO No thats my fat mates.
Turns out that I lived in her country for a while
and I saw in this bar watching her country place
on TV so I thought I would incorporate this in to
a mind reading trick. So I said give me your hand
blah blah blah.
HB8Scandi: Wow thats amazing
Me: Thats not all, sometimes like 1 in a thousand
I can have this instantaneous connection with
someone and something strange will happen.
HB8Scandi: Really what?
Me: Well I now can speak in your language.
HB8Scandi: No way!
Me: Yes way.
Talk to her in her language for 10mins about her
remote town (which I have been to) tell her about
the shops and station there, she laps it up.
Her male house mate comes back he is Russian
and doesnt like me being there, trys to AMOG
me, he doesnt even break the ice, every time he
trys I speak to her in her language he get pissed
of asks us to stop it. I play good cop bad cop with
him and he chills out a bit. Plus he knows hes
beat as she keeps saying hes just jealous of you
because hes in love with me and you must go
to the gym a lot you have big muscles while she
squeezed them. No I wrestle bears like your fat
mate probably does right Ivon?
He laughs.
I use some new GSF stuff on her then she agrees
to come home with me, but I tell her another time
(as I have an early date Thursday and need some
rest as Ive been on it for a week solid.
Not once did they ask why I was by myself think
hard why that is
I will arrange to meet her at a later date when Im
free
Beckster: 3 Way Kissing Technique
First you must build up the comfort with wit and
humour- be cocky too- but in a way that makes
everyone happy.
Kino both HBs a lot and build it up, give them
both intimate time with you when one goes to the
toilet/bar/use phone, start being a bit more serious
like when seducing them, then do the other when
shes free. Then do it to each of them again, but
in front of each other so it seems to the other HB
that its the frst time your turning on the charm
with her mate and how easy you do it will attract
her then again, do the other one too.
The attraction will be high also the competition
between women will also be strong, now you can
say something like this:
(Use this old one frst)
Me: Who kisses better, men or women?
HBs: Women blah blah blah
Me: So you have kissed a women before?
HBs: (Always seem to say) Yes, blah blah blah
Me: Theres this test to fnd out which are better
kissers, but you wouldnt be interested as your
friends, even though everyone at my Uni parties
use to test the theory and it worked soooo well?
Are you both open minded?
HBs: Yes (Now you have just got them to say
Yes to doing the game, but it way you have
asked them, they have said yes to everything you
ask in the sentence) now to confrm it before they
realise, quickly say before they speak again.
Me: I knew you two would be cool and open
minded, some people can be soo boring and miss
out on fun and great opportunities, you both grab
on for life right?
HBs: Yes (they normally giggle or something,
remember you dont have to say this word for
word).
Me: OK, are you ready?
HBs: Yes (Now I have made them say yes 3
times, the yes ladder is so powerful).
Me: Now this may seem weird to hear, but to
feel how it works afterwards you will be amazed.
Do you like being amazed by new and exciting
things? (REMEMBER PAUSES).
HBs: Yes (one more yes for luck lol, you can
make them say yes them all day if you like and
anchor it too).
Me: OK, all hold hands in a circle (you can be
sitting or standing), now we must connect our
lips together much like a kiss and the currents in
our bodies will be attracted to the most strongest
current (you can add this bit to if you want but
dont kill the moment did you know each human
body gives off enough electricity to power a light
bulb).
Now girls shut your eyes and as we kiss on 3
(seconds) hold it there for 5 seconds try to feel
who is giving off more power, if its the same we
all our compatible.
Go through the motions and turn it into a snog. If
this doesnt work either blame them for trying to
snog you or say, I wanna try that again.
If you feel one was kissing you more, then youll
be able to kiss her as soon as you alone with her,
tell her you felt it more with her, did she with you,
she should say yes as she was kissing you more
then the other HB.
Also you can get 3somes from this, I have and I
havent even experiment much with it.
Conquering Approach Anxiety (AA):
2 Perspectives
Gambler:
1. Frame it differently. If you frame an approach
as a do or die situation in which you are desperate
for a close, this is high pressure. Frame it like this:
You are being the fun sociable guy who will talk
to people and have fun, and if you happen to be in
an interaction with an HB (Hot Babe) that is going
well, the close will be natural.
2. Take baby steps: If you are going in to close, you
have a lot more to think about and you will have
more AA. Instead, in the early days, just aim to
open as much as possible. Dont over think, just
say hi to strangers or cheers them, or wave, or
ask a simple question then leave. When you are
comfortable opening, you can work on progressing
things and actually start opening to close.
3. Reduce the pressure. Going up to a girl and
telling her I want you, and nothing is going to
stop me getting you would be pretty cool if it
worked but is going to give you huge approach
anxiety because there is too much pressure. Find
simple reasons to start conversations to start
with. Opinion openers are low-pressure and a
much easier way to start a conversation.
4. Dont be too fussy. If you only approach SHBs
(Super Hot Babes), it will take you years to get
over your approach anxiety simply because there
arent many about. Lower your standards for
starting interactions until you can fnd 20 sets a
night to open. You dont need to close them, only
open! You will still conquer your AA and then you
can raise your standards again.
Beckster:
Its called analysis paralysis, once you think about
it longer then 3 seconds (hence the 3 second rule
was invented) your inner voice takes over and you
frst have to have a debate with your inner voice
to see if you will or will not approach.
You may win or lose this battle in your head but
even if you win your inner voice has spread doubt
in your infuenced mind, so you will be going in
not the full ticket!
You can battle this inner voice with your own
voice and also using an anchor, I like to squeeze
my fst and say in my head or out loud (for
special) occasions) MAN UP.
To me it means be the man, Im a man, its a
mans right, lets get breeding. Its natural to breed,
its the most powerful instinct so why fght it? why
let that little voice that has been the bane of your
life? Dont let it mess with you anymore, because
you know in your heart that every time you have
stood up to your (bad) inner voice you have felt
powerful and great, so why wont you stand up to
him, if you stand up to him you can stand up to
anyone.
The more you let that voice control you the more
it will, until its so powerful that pretty much
nothing but hypnosis can cure it!!! If you fght it
every day, hour, minute, do crazy things, wave at
people, stick your tongue out, wink and smile little
things to start with until the voice dies out to a
quiet murmur.
Beckster: Kino Is King
So we touch to feel someone or to make someone
feel us.
We use it to push our point, to exaggerate or put
emphasis on our emotions.
We when get (to) excited or sad.
We use kino to say things without using words, to
express what we cant say without words also.
So its not just as easy as saying touch her here,
there and the other oooppss.
And its not the same as sling your arm around
everyone and shouting hey buddy.
But a blue print can be used to help you along
your way and you know what, you will never get
better or good at it unless you practice.
So some quick tips:
Touch gently with the back of your hands and do
not linger, pull away slowly other times quickly.
Dont look where you are touching her.
Use the back of your hands even better the fnger
nails.
Push away from her as you do this, its none
threatening and it confuses her mind if you
like her or not, sort of push pull but with body
language.
Use your heels or toes to pivot away while you
kino then pull yourself in again.
Use indirect kino
Use misdirection kino, is that David Beckham
over there as you point in at some random
person and put your arm around her or on the
small of her back.
Touch non sexual erogenous zone behind the ear
for example, please ROOT why you are doing this
otherwise she will think youre a perv. So think of
a routine to allow you, also let me know how you
get on.
Touch her shoes not many people do that, root
this with a routine to, you can really pull her
leg on to your lap and inspect them, this works
wonders it also conveys a lot of balls doing this
and how different you are to other people.
Dont be scared to take a HBs hand just root again
why you are doing so.
Leading is fne once enough kino has be installed,
you will even be able to look her it the eyes and
stick your arm out for her to link on to then
parade her around the place.
If its a 2set touch one but look at the other. This is
a long and advanced one for another time. Along
with boob-kino, yes I said boob-kino.
I will leave you with a little game to practice
which I call 3 touches in a minute.
You must touch her 3 times on each side of her
body in a minute, but you must keep swapping
each side with each touch. Hard to explain I have
a rough quickly knocked up u-tube video of it to
help you get an idea..
Up up and Kinos away Kino is King
Megadirt: The Underestimated Benefts
Of Going Out
Bit of background info to start you off. My
sudonym is Megadirt, or MD if you wish. I was the
type of guy who would end up falling into lucky
relationships with 7s or 8s and they would last
a long time.I say long, 6 months at best. The
repercussions of the break-up however lasted
a LONG time, sometimes 2 years of nothing, no
socialising even with people I already knew.
I discovered the community when I was 16 (5
years ago) but when I was 16, as most 16 year olds
do, I did everything half-assed, I fell into another
relationship and just forgot about it. Earlier this
summer my AFC friend got dumped just before
taking his CB4 girlfriend to NewYork.
So I went with him instead, and at a Playboy
book signing picked up a book by my, by then,
second only to Douglas Adams, favourite author
Neil Strauss. It all came fooding back. I looked at
my friend and his CB4 ex-gf (who came anyway)
and all the acronyms and sudonyms patterns,
everything Id learned all of a sudden seemed to
make more sense. For fear of being chastised I left
the book down and vowed to get it once I got back
to familiar bookshops.
So I read it tried and tested a few wings and have
whittled it down to 3 very good eager to learn
guys. I went to see Gambler and by the end of
the day I was approaching like a motherfucker.
First week back out I email close and F-closed a
fortnight later, got a half assed relationship outve
it. Not enough to make me leave the game.
We went out once a week did one approach
maybe, but would spend the rest of the week
watching DVDs, reading E-books, making up
scenarios. There got to a point where I realised
that I could get past any womans LMR, AMOG the
drunkest of guys and we were all really pleased
with ourselves..but we couldnt approach
anyone. Every week was the same, maybe open
one or two sets, and then laugh it up when they
went wrong, high fve if they went right then my
relationship ended, I watched the loverboy tribute
to sarging video. It ended on a Thursday. I went
out that night, and everynight until tonight. 9
Days. 9 Nights out.
I fgured out since last week Ive approached
about 150 people. Early in the week the sets
wouldnt hook that easily, or would go dry but we
opened loads of them, got rid of the AA which
was the point. Middle of the week wed hold sets
for ages, theyd get slightly bitchy after a while
but the interactions where fun. We have had to
incorporate negs, C&F, false takeaways..all those
little decorations for the stages and as of last
night AMOGing.
These two really drunk guys where diving right
into the seduction stage hanging off girls and
making them feel REALLY uncomfortable. I walked
up, alpha handshake, hey man hows it going I
really love your tie, whered you get it, its really
cool I had one just like it, where you guys out for
tonight, just out drinknig on the pull? Thats really
cool, youll go really far, youve a great sense of
tact basically I just kept talking as I walked him
and his friend over to the other side of the bar.
I then opened the two set Id just saved, fred an
opener at them, DHVd took a while, their shields
where up a bit cos of the guys, but they invited us
out the following day, one of the girls was really
shy and submissive, the other quite dominant and
playful. TBH, closing shouldve been no problem,
but I just didnt, thats the next stage I have to get
to, thats for next week.
Another set I opened later that day had someone
in it I already recognised, but she didnt recognise
me, so I opened them and told her what her name
was and she got a bit scared, I guessed her friends
birthday to proove I was psychic.
Then isolated her friend, teased her, c&f all was
going well, pushed for the number close she
couldnt remember her number. The interaction
went quite well, but I dont think I displayed
enough personality and it was quite near the end
of the night but thats another step up, besides Ill
see her again, if not, 7 billion people in the world
ive still most of them to meet.
Ive been at the game for 3 months, and I
fnd that Ive had to extreme progress points,
Gamblers workshop, and the past 9 days. The
commonalities? Approach everything. High fve
people without drinks, clink glasses, say cheers or
happy christmas, work the room. Ive internalised
more in the past week than I have in the apst 3
months just because of this, most of which was
yesterday and the previous day. Game the world,
old lady serving you in a shop wearing an odd
scarf?
Talk about it. Girl walks into you in the street?
Bust her on it. Guy wearing your favourite bands
t-shirt? Talk to him about them. Just talk to
everyone, if you tease a guy working in a pizza
shop, or a girl working in a bookstore, they
probably arent going to accuse you of gaming
them.
Megadirt: Fear of success
Ive had many sticking points in my three and
a half months of gaming. Approach anxiety
because I was new to the game. Being able to talk
in sets because I was so nervous. Keeping high
energy because I was thinking negative thoughts.
Creating attraction because I didnt understand
about kino etc. Building comfort because I talked
about myself a bit too much and didnt really care
about them. These are all pretty generic, nothing
to be ashamed of, they all make sense, easy to
get past. But recently Ive hit an odd one. I hope
other people get this and Im not just mental. I
cant number close. Not because she isnt giving
me enough IOIs or is being bitchy, but because its
going so well. I look at the girl who is hotter than
anyone Ive ever spoken to before, she is feeling
me up, rubbing against me, holding my hand from
time to time and shes looking at me with those
DDB eyes, this is the point when my that evil little
man who lives in my head steps in and suggests
Look at her shes so hot, if you ask for her
number, her friend will think youre weird, and
shes probably just putting all this on anyway Ill
give you guys a better idea by being more specifc.
Today me and WING went out to a bar called Stiff
Kitten, its one of our regular establishments. We
went in said hey to the bouncers and headed
on down the steps and approached the bar, as
I ordered my Vodka and red bull, I took a quick
peripheral look around, guy sets and couples all
the way. I started talking to WING, I noticed a
two set a tall brunette HB7, and leading her down
the steps, a half-Italian HB8.5 long legs, eyes you
could lose yourself in, a hypnotic walk and most
importantly a life with a me-shaped hole in it. I
looked around, there was a set near them a guy
set, I briefy considered pawning them but just
grew some balls and went in to the two set with
no idea of what I was gonna say.
Hey guys, wheres there thats good to go on a
Saturday that isnt here or the Limelight?
Erm..Theres the beach clubbut theyve got a
really strict dress code, sometimes they wont let
you in. I cut her off here and looked offended
What are you trying to say? in a cocky funny
way, while indicating how well I was dressed. She
laughed and continued No no no, I mean if you
go in wearing a mini-skirt sometimes they.
Wow wow wow, what about my personality
makes you think Im gonna try and go in there
in a mini skirt? She laughed and lightly Kinod
me, I let her fnish waht she was trying to say,
thanked her Kinod the obstacle lightly and went
back to WING. He asked me if there was anywhere
around for food that wasnt takeaway crap. So I
asked the set, Hey guys, you were so much help
the last time Im gonna let you consult me on my
next problem, were can we get something to eat
around here that isnt greasy and burger king-y.
We fuffed for a bit, and then WING took care of
the obstacle. We started talking she started to
give me a bit of kino and she asked me what I did
for work, we talked about her being half Itialian,
and where abouts she was from, Sicily it turns out,
and she asked how often I am in the Stiff Kitten.
I wasnt sure if the truth was a good idea but I
said About 4 times a week cos I love meeting new
people, and it keeps work very seperate from my
social life. I also pointed out I wasnt an alcoholic
and didnt drink everytime I was there. Her next
question knocked me off guard Have you read the
game? I replied with a cool, yeah its cool then
she kept trying to make sure that I had constantly
asking me questions about it, as if it was a DHV
to have read it and she HAD to make sure. She
then was really interested in my path from being
a nervos little boy to my current situation. I
cant imagine you being shy. Yeah this time 2
weeks ago my hair was long frizzy and I probably
wouldnt be tlaking to you, this time 3 months ago
I defnately wouldnt have been talknig to you,
and this time 6 months ago I probably wouldnt
even have been out at the bar. Have you a photo
of you with your hair longer, you look really sexy
now. She was kinoing me so much at this point
it was getting ridiculous, I was gonna have to
close her. We fuffed for a while, it came time for
both of us to go to our next destinations, my head
kept saying We should hang out sometime..
we should hang out sometime.we should hang
out sometime She invited me to go with her
to the bar she was going to, I didnt go because I
was so skint I couldnt afford it, we both left about
the same time, I didnt close her, I couldve real
easily even when we left she looked back at us
twice I couldve called her over and done it there
but didnt. I really dont feel comfortable doing it,
Im gonna have to get over that soon, Ill keep you
posted as I get better.
Gambler: The Importance Of Morals
When Dealing With Women
So you want the skill of a PUA which basically
means you can have choice with women? You can
have multiple long term relationships, you can
have all the one-night stands you want, or you
can fnd a good quality girl and stick with her.
The problem for me is when guys dont consider
the womans wants whatsoever. Maybe they hate
women for all the times theyve been rejected and
want to get their own back. This is messed up.
Luckily most of our customers are good quality
guys who love women and just want more control
over their love lives.
With great power comes great responsibility as
Spiderman says. It is possible (and not even too
diffcult) to make sure you never break a girl
heart.
You just need to follow a few simple rules:
-If you just want sex, you dont need a
conversation to set these rules, you just need to
keep the intera
-Now, by being honest and having morals, you
MIGHT sleep with less women, but that love for
women and the desire not to hurt them will make
you more attractive and will earn you trust when
you really want it.
-Keep the interaction light, not mislead her, and
not connect with her on a deep level. You know
what she wants in a boyfriend, dont be it!
-When you are dating, be honest. If you tell
her you are seeing other women or dont want
something too serious, she wont be investing
emotion in something that isnt real.
-You are a PUA, you can fnd another girl easily,
she might be heat-broken for months if you split
up with her. Better to let the girl dump you. Just
be needy and clingy and unattractive, you dont
need to start being a bastard. This isnt about
status, its about not being nasty when you dont
need to.
Gambler: Seduction Tips The Pick-Up
Rules
Dont listen to the rules!
You cant buy drinks for girls. Dont ask their
name. Dont give a compliment. Dont pay
attention to the one you fancy!
Ignore all that rubbish. These rules should not
be taken as law. If you are a millionaire, she is
broke, and you are both thirsty from talking for
30 minutes, its fne to buy her a drink! Just avoid
girls that ONLY want a drink, and dont think of it
as winning her over if you buy her a drink.
Ask her name, its fne, getting a name is powerful,
do it early. If you wait for her, chances are she will
forget to ask, its an IOI if she asks, but most of the
time they are caught up in the conversation and
will forget!
Give compliments. But do it right! Do it when
you really feel it. Dont be generic with the
compliment, and dont say it weakly. Deliver
it deadpan. Compliments about character or
something that she has done with herself that she
wasnt born with are always better.
You only need to play hard to get if she is, if
she is open to talking to you initially, dont be
distant, engage with her before she thinks you are
interested in her ugly friend and decides to leave
the two of you together!
Take any rule with a pinch of salt. Find out what
works for you. I break other guys rules every time
I go out and still get tons of quality girls.
Gamblers PUA Method
People think Im a natural, but Im not, I didnt
kiss a girl until 21! People call me good looking,
thanks, but I was called ugly until my early
twenties too. I have worked on every aspect of my
character, and Ive done everything possible to
engineer my looks. I didnt know anything about
this stuff until late 2005. At that time, Id only slept
with 2 girls!
When I got into Game, one of the frst things I
decided was that I didnt want to limit myself in
any way. I wanted to be able to do day game, night
game, dance foor, basically anytime I saw a girl
that I wanted to speak to, I wanted to be able to
approach her.
Naturally Im not high energy, I was a shy,
introvert, who wasnt very sociable. Ive learnt
how to turn on my extrovert skills, but usually
Id prefer to not be too high energy. I can do it
however, I can hold a 6 set on my own for 20
minutes, and do crazy fashy things. I guess these
are skills that naturals dont have, so it is a mark
of a PUA. Students like it, I have a rule on 1-on-
1s that Ill open any set they tell me to, so I had
to develop this skill. Ive got a super high energy
game, and its there when I need it. After doing
500+ hours of training, I have state control, I can
switch it on and off anytime.
More likely, if I see a big set with a girl I want in it,
Ill go directly to her, when Steve/Vertex says hes
never done a mixed set and things like this, he
has, he just did it in this way.
I game in different ways when Im training, so Ill
talk about how I game when Im doing things for
myself. Ive got two types of styles:
1. Very direct and fast escalation.
2. Slow burning girlfriend close.
In the frst style, Ill attract the girls attention
from a distance, force an IOI (verbally or non-
verbally), go in in a sexual state and escalate
quickly. This is how I got a 20 minute street to
bed with a genuine HB9 (on the Vertex & Gambler
scale, I only SAW three 9s in 2006), and its how I
got 2 k-closes at Movida on Wednesday without
even talking to the girls frst. I use a lot of non-
verbal stuff, I can even have a little conversation
non-verbally to warm the girls up.
This style of mine took a while to develop,
you need complete confdence and authority
otherwise it just wont work. The example is
beckoning a girl to come over to you, if you do it
with doubt, she wont come. If there is no doubt in
your mind that the girl will come over to you, then
it will work.
This style is good for fast escalation in clubs,
ONSs, etc. The girl doesnt know you, so if you
just want something casual, do this. If you want
something more, you need to connect with her,
and thats where I employ my second method.
In the second style, Ill be semi-indirect to start.
By semi-indirect I mean Im not putting on a show
for the girl or using time-constraints etc, but I
am just coming across like a sociable person that
wants to chat to them. I aim to hook by being
more funny and interesting than what they were
doing and then get into rapport. I do this crazy
deep connection stuff. I focus on digging out real
emotions. Emotions are attached to memories,
passions, future dreams, etc. I elicit and connect
on this. This is where the girls say I trust you,
I feel like Ive known you for 3 months, and it
melts them pretty well. So Ive got this connection,
at some point I switch to a sexual character and
this brings in the sexual tension. She knows I
know that I can kiss her, and the tension builds.
Its up to me when I do it.
Ive had girls Ive brought back to my house,
havent kissed them at all so far, and they still are
naked in bed within 10 minutes. When they know
you can kiss them but wait, the tension builds,
and its not that awkward type because they know
you are doing it on purpose rather than just being
scared.
So I use this to get my girlfriend close. The GF-
close is basically when they would move in with
me, commit to a relationship, whatever, just after
a few hours. Another facet of this style is my
complete honesty, I will tell them my job, if I have
any other girls, if I dont like something about
them, etc. What this does is it makes my emotion
for them and the compliments I give much more
powerful because they are genuine.
I love women. Im honest with them. I dont try
and control them. I dont exploit them.
Heres my take on social proof game: I use it.
Sometimes. 2 times recently Ive done The
Takeover where we will just take over a section
of the club and create a bubble around us, any girl
in that bubble will be a warm approach. Ill work
the room, be ultra high energy, dance around like
a nutter, do all that stuff. Last bootcamp, on the
Sunday night, there were more than 10 close-able
girls, and when I left, some ran after me to make
me take their number. I got solid closes from only
a couple of minutes.
What I dont do is talk to people who I dont want
to, when I dont feel like it. Just like I cant bring
myself to use a routine or canned lines in a PU,
I cant be fake with people who Im just trying
to get something from. It works fne for me,
Ive spent no time schmoozing but still get flm
premieres, VIP parties, etc. In my opinion, social
circle game is much easier so its worth trying to
get HBs in your social circle. The owner of a model
agency needs no game. Can you say that game
is getting the girls whether it comes from a cold
approach, or whether it comes from you making
friends with her boss?
Sure you can, I just morally object to working
people like that.
My morals also extend to demos for students,
and how I treat my girls. Ive never broken a girls
heart! I manage relationships very very well. I
dont n-close a girl I wouldnt call just to demo it. I
dont play with them or take things too far. I dont
use an unwitting pivot and then leave her to go off
with an HB. This isnt Zan level stuff of spending
an hour with a fat girl just to make her feel better.
I just will do what is in my power to not hurt girls.
If I got blown out, Id never do anything rude in
response.
On bootcamps, we teach the elements of social
proof game, since they apply to making people
like you, making a good impression, etc.
Gambler: Strip Club Game
Not many guys that come to bootcamps have
considered stripper game. A lot of people view
strippers as little better than prostitutes. The
thing is that in London, a stripper can earn 1000
a night in a top venue. Guys are not allowed to
touch, the girls are well looked after, and the
crowd is much better than you would fnd in an
average club.
This means that a hot girl can make a lot more
from stripping than she could for most other
things. She can work for a few months and save
up enough money to put towards a house or
something else.
So, the upshot is that the strip club is not full
of skanky bitches, its flled with generally good
quality girls. They could be students, they could
have a dream of being a singer or model, or yes,
they could be a skanky bitch. The point is, the girls
will be no worse than the average that you fnd in
a night club in character, and will be a LOT better
in looks.
Not all the girls are hot in a strip club, there are
some fat ones, there are some with ugly faces. But
the average standard is much higher, and chances
are that out of 70 girls, 2 or 3 will be HB8s (on our
strict scale).
The other misconception is that you are going to
need to buy loads of dances. You dont. We spend
very little money at the strip club (1 drink). We get
in for free with vouchers, buy our drink, and sit
there for a few hours and game the girls.
Favourite strip clubs in London for gaming the
girls are Stringfellows in Wardour St and Upper
St Martins Lane (next to my house!), Spearmint
Rhino, and Secrets in Chancery Lane or Euston.
Gambler: Looking back and forward:
Personal
If I look back at what Ive achieved in terms of
increasing my skill with women, building the
business, and working on my character, Im very
satisfed. If I had just learned game and never
thought about training, I would have quit learning
about 9 months ago. At that point, I could go out
a few times a week and get numbers to line up
dates for the rest of the week.
I kept on trying to improve because I wanted to
be the best that I could so that I would offer the
best service to customers. I wasnt improving for
myself, I went beyond that. So now I date fashion
models and strippers, the kind of girls that are
considered the hardest to pick up. I dont really
know what to work on next, but I do know that if
I can take another PU holiday in a place with hot
women, Ill come back with a whole bunch of new
refnements to my game and teaching method.
I think the next step could be further research
on state control. I want to be able to generate
the state at will that women fnd irresistible. It is
easy to get into this state if youve got a bunch of
k-closes around a club, but Id like to be able to
generate it any time.
Something I need to do is bring back some
balance. I work almost exclusively on PUA stuff, I
have meant to do lots of classes and courses but
just havent had the time. Ive started going to the
gym for the frst time in my life which is good for
my energy levels and ftness but havent done the
other things Ive meant to.
I want to do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for martial arts &
ftness. I want to do some yoga/pilates classes
because I am very infexible. I want to learn
Portuguese (for when I go to Brazil), and Russian. I
have loads of books I want to read.
On an even more personal note, Ive met lots of
good friends and girls through moving to London
and dedicating my time to PUA. These are people
that will always be part of my life now, and its
amazing to see what big events small decisions
have lead to. People that have read my story might
imagine that Im not at all an introvert anymore,
but I still am. I still prefer small groups, 1on1
conversations, and need time to myself. I just
have the extravert skills when necessary.
Gambler: Eye Contact, Rapport &
Conversational Flow
I was on a 1on1 the other day and had some
deeper realisations on eye contact. We were in
set together, I was winging and observing my
student whilst he was in set. I noticed that I was
able to get my girl comfortable and in rapport
very quickly but his conversation seemed to be a
bit stop-start. A lot of guys also tell me that they
run out of things to say, etc. I used to have this
problem, but maybe I wasnt completely conscious
of all the elements I have now that make this not
happen anymore.
He was breaking eye contact to think of what to
say next. When you break eye contact, the other
persons attention can wander. They will look
around the room, things will catch their eye, the
eye wanders and then the mind wanders. It will
break them out of the moment. Its very diffcult
to do this if someone is holding eye contact with
you, you might look away but you will feel drawn
back in.
I knew this already, but what I realised was the
timing of the eye contact break. If you break it
when there is a break in the conversation (end
of subject, thinking of what to say next), then it
increases the strength of the break and creates
the stop-start kind of conversation. If you break
eye contact when they are in fow or you are in
fow, they still have the words there to hold their
attention so it is more acceptable and doesnt
create that break. I advocate constant eye contact,
but I notice that I break it when Im winging,
talking to guys, or generally talking to people that
I dont want to be attracted to me. But I break it
when there is not a conversational break, this
means that I only lose the attraction but not the
fow.
Another factor was that he nodded and moved
his head a lot when the girl was speaking.
Subconsciously, this told her that she should
fnish what she is saying quickly. We all know
what it is like when someone is nodding and
saying aha, yeah, aha, its annoying and it
communicates that they have something to say.
He wasnt verbally doing this, but he was nodding
and moving his head quickly which both makes
it look like he wasnt listening well and made her
think he wanted to jump in with something to say.
If you can keep eye contact and match their vocal
tone and be relaxed in your body language, you
can create an environment where they forget
about the whole room and everything going on
for a few minutes, its almost hypnotic. I think
this is what I do, and this is why my conversation
fows. We are focused completely on each other,
Im not in my head wondering what to say, and
they arent looking around getting distracted. It is
powerful.
Of course, eye contact is also essential for the
seduction phase
Gambler: 93% Of Gaming Is Non-Verbal
This is a recent realisation of mine. It goes against
conventional thought, and it goes against all the
guys that constantly ask what should I open
with.
In a night club, you can k-close without saying
a word. Sexual tension is generated almost
completely through non-verbal communication.
Of course, day-game has a much larger verbal
element, and it is kind of stupid that most of the
pickup material is verbally heavy but focused on
clubs. Who lies more doesnt work in the street
or supermarket. Clubs are noisy, the girls have
lower attention spans, and in big cities there are
often a large number of foreign girls.
Assuming the basic rule that number closes are
for the day-time and physical closes are for the
night game (because one is a sexually charged
environment with alcohol and the other isnt)
most of how night game is taught should focus on
non-verbal communication. There is a shortage of
day-game material. My non-verbal game includes
forcing IOIs, sexual tension generation, sexual
state projection, and conveying attractive qualities
(sexual confdence, relaxed, indifferent, non-
needy).
Gambler: Fast Closes And Text Game,
Gaming The Lazy Way
When I frst started gaming, I opened 20 sets or
so a night, partly to get lots of practice and partly
because the sets werent lasting that long. Then I
got good, and only opened girls that I wanted.
For the past 6 months, ive been going for solid
closes with very targeted girls. Id go to the club
and usually only open one girl, and theyd be the
ones that I stay with for the rest of the night.
Because of the amount of time we are together,
its pretty much guaranteed that theyd want to
see me again. I called this the girlfriend close.
Recently Ive been gaming with a different style,
this is similar to what Beckster has been doing for
years.
Ill go to a club and get 5 or more numbers of the
hottest girls. I might only be in set with them for a
short time. Normally all we have is attraction.
Ill get the number and then Ill send them the
same series of text messages which is designed to
get them back to my house. From Wednesday Ive
got 3 dates arranged, and from Thursday another
2. The girls are hot, some models, all meet my
criteria of looking good without make-up, bening
thin, and having other attractive qualities outside
their looks. For my frst time trying this style it
went well, but I think with some refnements I
could line up dates for the whole week from just
one night out.
Of course, one constraint on this is the quality
of the girls, and luckily now Ive found the best
places in London for hot girls so I can guarantee
that Im going to be attracted to quite a few of
them vs none of them in the usual Leicester
Square venues.
Natural Game vs Routine-based,
Gamblers take
I have never directly commented on this
arguement - is it better to develop a script and go
out and use it to pull women, or is it better to try
and be natural?
On our bootcamps, we take the view that it is
easier to get started and build confdence if you
have some material to fall back on, and that is
why we teach some.
Personally I used canned material and routines to
begin with and it took a few months to completely
leave them behind.
Assuming someone is a PUA or MPUA, why would
they still use routines? Here are my problems with
routine based game:
1. The woman is being attracted to a fake you, do
you want someone to be attrracted, like, or love
you for who you are or not?
2. Men that have choice and skills with women do
not need to lie, cheat, steal, manipulate, or trick a
woman into bed. Fake DHV stories, openers, kiss-
close techniques, etc are all fakery that substitute
putting yourself on the line.
3. Do we really want a girl that would fall for all
this shit? I know it works on a lot of girls, but it
puts me off a girl when she falls for it!
4. There is a chance I could end up in a
relationship with a girl I use a routine stack on,
could I live with myself knowing that I might not
have got her if I didnt use it? Can I look at her
every day knowing she fell for who lies more?
Do I want a girl that any routine robot might have
been able to get?
5. This is the biggest of all. When you use a routine
stack time and time again. you cant calibrate
to how much you like the girl. Whether you just
want to sleep with her or whether you really
really like her, you use the same shit. So what
happens? Girls that you dont like too much
feel a connection with you because you ran all
this emotional stuff on them and you are going
to break a lot of hearts. Does someone who is
great with women need to do this? Shouldnt he
be better and more moral than the average guy.
Normally it is desperation that causes a guy to
lie and use tricks (and even spike girls drinks), so
why do these so-called PUAs still do it?
6. Are you developing yourself and making
yourself into a more attractive man if you are
working so much on your outer game, and
specifcally the script you use? Doesnt that make
you a weirdo?
Of course, this stuff all has its place and im glad
I had some openers and stuff when I frst started
but the goal of us all should be to leave it all
behind as soon as possible.
Steve: Sexual Escalation - Gaming For
Sex After Short Interactions
I wanted to write this post after thinking about
the 10 step guide to natural game.
Ive seen posts / spoken to guys about their view
on game and have noticed that there tends to be
a ubiquitous view that the process should be
followed, dogmatically, religiously, at all times.
Either MM, SS or whatever.
Pulled a HB 8.5 and are attracting well? Better
lather some rapport on there sonny jim, otherwise
you in fo a whole heap o faking.
In a group situation? Better go in a take care of the
CBs frst, and fo sho dont game the target direct,
cos shell blow you out and kick you to the kerb,
girlfriend.
Bollocks.
Im speaking from my own personal experience
on this matter, so what I wanted to talk about
was the notion of having to have all this rapport
/ comfort in order to ensure the HB will meet you
again after the frst encounter. In my view, its not
necessary, at least not to the degree that a lot of
guys seem to think. Attraction and fascination will
do just fne.
NOTE : Obviously its preferable to have some kind
of connection, however I am posting this because I
think its helpful in situations where :
(i) There isnt enough fucking time for rapport
i.e train station, tube, etc etc.(ii) Youre in an
environment where there are lots of HBs and you
dont want to spend hours with her talking shite.
(iii) You get the point.
Here is an example which illustrates the point,
with follow up:
I met HB 8.5 tall redhead at Cheltenham train
station last Friday, I thought I would game her for
a laugh as I havent been doing too much recently.
Me : Hey how long does x take to get to London,
it doesnt say on the boardHB 8.5 tall redhead :
Er about 2 hours I thinkMe : Wow youre really
expressive with your hand gestures, what are you
a gangster or something? You Italian?
(Fake gangster accent a la Robert De Niro, with
exaggerated hand gestures)
Ehhh, forget abaaaat it, so where you goin eh?
Hot damn..HB 8.5 tall redhead (laughing): Im
going to Swindon Me : Whatchou goin there for,
wassa matta withchu? Come with me to London..
(Puts hand under chin and gestures toward her,
gangster style HB 8.5 tall redhead (laughing more)
: Hey Id love to but Im tired from work, blah blah
Me : Ah yeah, work eh. Hah I bet youre tired,
climing up that pole, stripper girl.
Thus the convo was started
So we get on the train and talk more, I tell her I
have been to see my accountant and she tells me
she is a trainee account. At this point were sitting
opposite each other, so I move across next to her
and show her my expenses on my laptop (I also
show her pics of HB Spanish model who Ive been
shagging, I dont know why but this came up)
So I have about 1 hour to game her, plenty.
keep busting on her about various things and then
go kino. Hardcore. Started off brushing a bit of hair
off her face and told her I love readheads, she says
Im cheesy but is loving it. Were chatting like this
for a while and then some guy sits opposite so I
open up my laptop and start typing messages for
her on the screen.
It revolves around star signs and sexuality, I tell
her that she is a naughty girl and a typical red
head, she accuses me of being a player, doing
this all the time etcI eventually say to her that
I think we should go to the toilets and fuck, she
replies with something like (my heart says yes but
my head says noI cant do it,, Im a good girl).
I am escalating kino all the time, I put my hand
on her knee and tell her that perfect symmetry is
rare in nature, she says one of her knees is bigger
than the other as she had an accident once, etc
etc. So I play about with this for a while and then
move my hand further up, part her legs etc and
stroke thighsThen lean in and nibble on her
neck and earlobes
After more of this and more sexy talk I end up
getting off with her, not hugely passionate kissing
but proper, right on the train This is a crowded
train, theres a guy opposite and to the other side
are various other passengers. They cant see my
hand under the table though As she gets off I
smack her on the arse (my speciality) and tell her
Ill be seeing her real soonI have the number of
course.
So try to get her down at the weekend but she
doesnt make it although she has rung me twice
and will prob come down on Sunday.
THE REAL KEY TO THIS POST :
I could sense that she thought I was a player and
not really faithful to girls and she felt like one in a
long queue, so I had to at least provide some sort
of spurious reason for her to come down and shag
me (ok she hasnt yet but the fact that she has
called twice now indicates to me that its on. If she
does come down, I am 95% sure I will nail her).
So I sent her a txt, along the lines of Hey in all
seriousness, I know we got a bit carried away
there on the train but I did really quite like you..
I felt we had something there and I want to
see where it takes us, its not very often I meet
someone I really like..You felt it too babe didnt
you, I know you did..Speak soon.
The KEY points here are:
(i) She was obviously very attracted and that alone
may have guaranteed a shag AT THAT TIME (e.g at
her house), however due to the time lag she might
have faked, however because the attraction and
fascination was so strong she made it easy for
me to progress things by making comments like
youre a player, dont go shagging and leaving too
many girls when you go out this weekend etc etc.
She was making it clear that she thought I was
like that, BUT WAS GIVING ME A CLEAR WAY OUT
OF IT, all I had to say was that I felt something
special with her.(ii)This is absolutely key with
quick seductions that of necessity have to lead to
sex at another time you HAVE to have MAJOR
attraction, escalate smoothly, confdently and in a
dominant way, and then later when she gives you
a chance to make her feel a little special, you take
it.
Ive had 3 minute, hell 2 minute no closes from
nightclubs, coffee shops etc that have led to
prolonged contact and in some cases, sex. You
have to sense the energy of the interaction
and leave on a high note when her interest is
highdont let it fag and dont talk too fucking
much. (iii) Even though she probably knows its
bullshit, in her mind she is probably resolved of all
responsibility as I am the one escalating etc.
She knows she wants to fuck but has to
rationalise it to herself in some way, so will most
defnitely come down with the view Im not going
to shag him, but will do it and then rationalise
afterwards that it was all my fault
I am typing this at work and my manager is
watching me like a fucking hawk, I will come
back to it another time and reread to make
sure it makes senseanyway there have been
other examples but I wanted to give a detailed
breakdown so you could see what I was talking
about Summary
(i) Escalate physically, SMOOTHLY, CONFIDENTLY,
DOMINANT. She WILL be sucked into it if you do
this, doesnt matter that much where you are.
(ii) Leave the interaction on a high note
(iii) Theres NOTHING wrong with her thinking
youre a player, its a challenge to her, she is
turned on by it and will give you a way in by
dropping little hints so that you can make her feel
a little special
(iv) When you see her again, escalate from where
you left off. First thing you do when you see her
walk up to her, kiss her and grab her arse.
Steve: A Powerful Natural Frame To Have
Ive seen a lot of talk on here about FRAME. Your
frame in the interaction with HBs.
For eg, if the HB says something unnacceptable,
or is shit testing you or whatever, you FRAME
CONTROL it away.
Yeah cool, so whatever
Now, what is going on here? Is it natural to do this
are are you using a technique? A frame control
technique? To me, anything that is not natural is
WEAK. You will be found out eventually, IMHO.
Also, if not done correctly it looks fucking stupid.
You look like a dork who is socially maladjusted,
trying to be alpha.
Ive seen this out there, by the way, it;s
cringeworthy. Its totally different from someone
who GENUINELY cant be arsed to listen to any
bullshit and gives a congruent reaction. It looks
WEIRD.
Ive been thinking about game recently and a
key part of having a natural style is living in the
moment. To me, this means just saying the frst
thing that comes into my head!! Listen to what
your body is telling you, what pops into your mind
when someone says something to you?
I think it depends on a bunch of factors : your
state, how tired you are, the environment, etc etc.
What about if you could just say the frst thing
that comes into your mind, and give your natural
response with no regards to the consequenecs?
Because you really dont care?
London Hunk has been posting every Tuesday
about responding when a HB hits you with THIS.
I fnd this really cool, but I was thinking : my
response would be totally different depending
on how I feel at any given time, what my body is
telling me.
Example :
HB : So why do I need you as a boyfriend? What
will you do for me?
Me (happy relaxed and playful state) - Turn her
over, smack her on the arse. Shut up silly girl.
Smack her arse again.
Me (moody and pissed off state) - Wincing. Look
at her - Thats a fucking stupid thing to say. Shut
up. Dont say stuff like that to me againMe (Angry
state) Shut up you stupid cuntMe (horny state)
FUCK THE ARSE OFF YOU. You wouldnt fucking
believe it. Now shut up and grab my dick!
Do you see where I am going with this? Its
amazingly powerful. You just wander through life,
living in your own reality.
Now, I am not advocating hitting people or being
criminal. You need to be socially adjusted and
have respect for peoples boundries. An obvious
one is : never fuck around with peoples religions.
Be socially aware but live in YOUR reality.
Further info:
OK there are some valid points here and ill ignore
the pointless diatribe against meNo need for it.
I am genuinely trying to help and am genuinely
trying to break down how I game because I feel its
valid : its not easy for me to do this.
1st point : Frame control IS something that can be
learned. I was not a natural before I started : I
wasnt walking up to girls on the street and taking
them home. I had NEVER done a cold approach in
my life : I used to wait for EC and then move in.
Only in nightclubs. Usually it worked.
My game was 1 dimensional. But I managed to
talk my self out of SO SO many lays merely by
being insecure. SO this is stuff I HAVE LEARNED
MY SELF. To my mind, there is NO reason why
someone else cannot learn it too.
I think I am advocating something that is much
more simple, organic and natural that learning
techniques. I am advocating doing exactly what
your body and mind say at that point in time.
Have you ever noticed the nerdy guys who, when
you get talking to them, occasionaly come out
with hysterical comments that have everyone
rolling around the foor laughing? Would you ever
expect that? No. So, what about if these guys try
giving themselves free reign to let this personality
come out. This is what I am saying. Let the real
person come out, past all the social programming.
Other guys on here can probably advise more
technical ways of doing this : I am offering
another alternative.
Have you ever seen that movie, Falling Down? The
Micheal Douglas character is going insane, sure.
But whats he up to? HES ACTING AS HE WANTS
TO!! It is fucking annoying to him that they are
digging up the street, so he blows it up with a
fucking rocket launcher!!!
So, if a girl is giving you shit, and yuore pissed
off, FUCKING TELL HER!!! Women want a guy who
IS emotional, who IS truthful, they dont want a
fucking invented personality!
Steve: Club Game Escalation - Tactics
And Techniques
I see / hear a lot of guys asking about what
openers are best to use in clubs, what method to
use, c&f, direct etc.
I see other guys discussing the merits of mini
techniques, like grabbing her arm, spinning her
round etc etc.
Whilst this is all great I dont see anyone talking
about SEXUAL DOMINANCE/ PROJECTING A
SEXUAL VIBE at all times. Elements of this should
exist in ANY interaction with females, to one
degree or another. However in club game, you can
be EXTREMLY overt about it.
I shall put this in context. I am a 6ft tall bloke,
with a good body and good looks. When I am
walking round the streets I often get very good
looking women checking me out, giving me IOIs
etc.
I say this not to boast but to point out that the
stuff I describe here WORKS FOR ME, it may not
work for everyone. If you use this kind of stuff
though, it can get results like blow jobs on trains,
stuff like that.
You will probably fnd that if you do stuff like this,
you will get women calling you dangerous, sexy,
horny, a predator etc. They will probably not trust
you but they WILL fnd it sexy. If you have good lay
logistics and can extract well, you may get lots on
ONS by doing this.
If you want more Day 2s then you need to TONE
IT DOWN. Go for more rapport once you have
attraction.
If you want to just roll around the club being wild,
getting off with good looking chicks left right and
centre, then give it a try, its GREAT FUN!!
Clubs are full of good looking, alpha guys. Often
with money, practically ALL horny, ALL wanting to
get the girl. YOU HAVE TO STAND OUT!! I choose
to do it by trying to portray the best looking, most
alpha, NON DRUNK, sexually powerful, dominant
guy.
NOTE: This does not work on all girls, you have
to calibrate. It does usually work on girls who are
giving you IOIs. Otherwise you need to be able to
tell if a girl fancies you immediately when you
open look for the usual IOIs.
NOTE 2: You have to get into the right state to do
it.
NOTE 3: Please, no bleating about is this feld
tested, does it work, of course its fucking feld
tested, and it works for me.
So, how to project a sexual vibe
These are general things that you can do.
1. When you see a HB or SHB, imagine her naked.
Imagine her sucking on your cock, imagine her
bent over with her pink slit on display, imagine
sliding your cock into her.
2. Feel the weight of your cock between your legs,
feel your balls. Think of it as your big fat tool,
think of how you can slam it into the HBS and
make her wet. THINK SEXUAL.
3. Your body language should convey this sexual
vibe. You should be standing tall, when you stand
still stand with your legs apart. TAKE UP SPACE.
4. If you get the eye of a HB, look at her and decide
if you want to fuck her. If you do, think to yourself
mmm, she is going to get some of my cock..
Swagger over to her (you have to do this right, its
NOT like Liam Gallagher, its like you KNOW she
wants you, the deal is already done, she wants to
feel your cock in her mouth).
Say anything, use something like whats your
story then? Say it in the right way, get in close,
invade the fuck out of her body space. Im serious,
do not be a joker, be sexually powerful. NO
TIMIDITY CAN BE SHOWN. BE OVERLY SEXUALLY
CONFIDENT.
5. When you see her and are up close, use your
eyes and whole body to capture her attention. You
should almost instantly shut out the rest of the
club for her. You have to swallow her with your
eyes, whole. Stare at her, extremely suggestively.
You should almost be sneering, this is how sexual
you need to be.
I cant describe it better than that, you need
to have her in the state where nothing else in
the world exists in that moment except your
beautiful, fucking sexy face (this is honestly how
you need to be thinking). Do something like put 2
fngers under her chin and just look at her, STUDY
her for a while.
You can escalate extremely fast by doing this.
Fluff about bullshit but be invading her space and
overwhelm her with masculine presence.
6. When you frst start to touch her, alternate.
Start off with extremely alpha stuff, after you have
kissed her, SLAP her arse, I mean SLAP it, hard.
Grab one of her arse cheeks and pull her into
you so her pussy is pressed up against your cock.
Grab her and pull her into you and let her feel
your cock rubbing against her. Grab the back of
her head and pull her hair so that her head goes
back, kiss her neck. If you are doing this right, you
should be almost instantly hard and maybe have
some precum coming out of your cock.
Then alternate it later (usually after prolonged
kissing), put one hand under her chin and lean
back, study her whole face and look at her softly.
Put both hands on her face, one on each side. Lean
in softly, bump heads a little. Rub noses with her
and laugh with her about it.
At this point I am thinking I am using my big
brown eyes to show her my tender side. Usually
then you can hug her and stroke her back. Its
almost as if you are taming a wild horse, you have
to show it whos boss to start, then you can show
your tender side later.
7. When kissing, start off slowly, and gentle and
then when you get more into it, make appreciative
noises if you want, really get into it, pull back,
kiss her HARD, almost like you are going to bruise
her mouth, pull her hair and position her mouth
where YOU want it. Stick your tongue in as you
feel like it.
8. Tell her what you want to do to her. Be graphic.
Be extremely fucking sexual, I am going to fuck
you so hard, I am going to make you scream, etc
etc. If she objects with some feeble shit, tell her to
shut the fuck up, come here (then kiss her again)
9. In general just be extremely dominant. Be cool
with it, you dont want to come across like a
school teacher, more like an extremely confdent,
sexually powerful guy who gets what he wants
from women. You should be thinking of the
women as little retarded girls who dont know
what they want and need a big guy to show them
what the fuck is going on.
10. Tell her what to do, almost in an offhand way.
Come here, sit there, get me a beer, do this, do
that. Accompany it with little smacks etc. Even, at
some points, a gentle slap in the face if she gives
you any shit, but stare her down and do not back
down after you have done it.
11. Dont be afraid to game her friends if there are
two or more of them. Put your arms round both of
them, feel their arses, have fun with them, they
are girls and they come out to meet and have fun
with sexy guys. So dont be afraid to have fun with
them!!
I shall try and break this down into more specifc
techniques in certain situations with examples if
anyone is interested.
I would say that its easier to show you guys but I
am still not used to gaming with other guys much
and fnd it much harder, but hopefully when I
wing some of you I can get into this state and do it
naturally to demonstrate.
A Powerful Frame To Have : What Does
Your Body Say?
Ive seen a lot of talk on here about FRAME. Your
frame in the interaction with HBs.For eg, if the HB
says something unnacceptable, or is shit testing
you or whatever, you FRAME CONTROL it away.
Yeah cool, so whateverNow, what is going on
here? Is it natural to do this are are you using a
technique? A frame control technique? To me,
anything that is not natural is WEAK.
You will be found out eventually, IMHO. Also, if not
done correctly it looks fucking stupid. You look
like a dork who is socially maladjusted, trying to
be alpha. Ive seen this out there, by the way, it;s
cringeworthy.
Its totally different from someone who
GENUINELY cant be arsed to listen to any bullshit
and gives a congruent reaction. It looks WEIRD.Ive
been thinking about game recently and a key part
of having a natural style is living in the moment.
To me, this means just saying the frst thing that
comes into my head!!
Listen to what your body is telling you, what pops
into your mind when someone says something
to you? I think it depends on a bunch of factors :
your state, how tired you are, the environment, etc
etc.What about if you could just say the frst thing
that comes into your mind, and give your natural
response with no regards to the consequenecs?
Because you really dont care? London Hunk has
been posting every Tuesday about responding
when a HB hits you with THIS. I fnd this really
cool, but I was thinking : my response would be
totally different depending on how I feel at any
given time, what my body is telling me.Example :
HB : So why do I need you as a boyfriend? What
will you do for me?Me (happy relaxed and playful
state) - Turn her over, smack her on the arse. Shut
up silly girl. Smack her arse again.Me (moody and
pissed off state) - Wincing. Look at her - Thats
a fucking stupid thing to say. Shut up. Dont say
stuff like that to me againMe (Angry state) Shut
up you stupid cuntMe (horny state) FUCK THE
ARSE OFF YOU. You wouldnt fucking believe it.
Now shut up and grab my dick!Do you see where
I am going with this? Its amazingly powerful. You
just wander through life, living in your own reality.
Now, I am not advocating hitting people or being
criminal. I used to post stupid stuff like this, and
guess what? It was because I was feeling like it at
that time and it amused me. Anyway, of course
you cant go around hitting people. You need to
be socially adjusted and have respect for peoples
boundries. An obvious one is : never fuck around
with peoples religions. Be socially aware but live
in YOUR reality.
Steves Guide To Creating Attraction
Here is my guide to creating attraction. There is
a bunch of other stuff that I do that I am trying
to quantify and break down, this is a good start
though. Youll have to wait.
Creating attraction
There are numerous ways in which you can create
attraction. The following are some of the best,
most powerful ways :
Method one Conversational jujitsu.Using this
method you pretend not to hear what she is
saying and misinterpret it in a sexual way, as
in the following example :PUA : Hey can you
tell me where the nearest hairdressers is?Her :
Oh yeah, its just up there, turn left at the bank.
PUA : OK , just up therePAUSE..Did you say
you wanted to watch me wank? Ive only just
met you, my god you are forwardThis is a
rather extreme, however its useful because it
illustrates the technique. Using this kind of sexual
misinterpretation is great because :(i) You can
use it at ANY point in the conversation e.g after
opening, rapport stage etc etc.(ii) It shows great
confdence, and if delivered correctly is very funny
2 ideal ingredients you want to demonstrate
to a girl.(iii) It immediately cuts through the
bullshit and sets the tone of the conversation as
sexual. Remember, a degree of sexual tension
is a MUST in interacting with girls. We all have
boring, anodyne conversations all day long : this
is different and makes you stand out.(iv) It shows
you are sexually confdent and direct. Again this
is unusual and attractive. Ask as many attractive
women as you can if they would appreciate being
approached by an attractive guy who is direct and
humourous.This technique is a way of creating
sexual tension and quickly changing the nature of
the interaction and getting you talking as a man
and woman who may be interested in sex. Use it
sparingly as overuse will reduce its effectiveness.
Its diffcult to put an exact fgure on how many
times you should do this but in a 3 minute
number close in the daytime, once should be
enough. Try and use it directly after the opener as
its a great way of fipping the attraction switches.
Another conversational method is to use ANY
hook to turn the conversation onto a sexual /
dating plane. You can use literally ANYTHING
to do this, as with the example below :PUA : So
where you from?HB : Im from LatviaPUA : Latvia
oh yeah, cool. I heard about that placeI read
an article about it actually. Yeah, it said that the
girls from Latvia are all super hot(IRONICALLY)
I couldnt comment , of coursePAUSEAnd it
also said they all seem to have a special interest
in (describe yourself) e.g 56 guys who wear brown
courdroy pants and pink socks and matching pink
underwear. PAUSEHow strange. Are you aware
of this phenomenon?Your lucky day eh?Again, use
this sparingly as you do not want to appear to be a
clown by using too much humour. This method is
best used shortly after the opener.
Method two prolonged eye contact.This
technique is most useful throughout the pickup.
Generally you should aim to keep eye contact as
long as possible but NOT IN A THREATING WAY!
When in conversation with a girl, try and hold
her eyes and smile at appropriate points. Dont
stare! You know youre staring if she starts to
say what and appears to think something is
wrong with her.When holding eye contact, you
can create attraction spikes by thinking of her
in a sexual way and appreciating her beauty.
However, be careful NOT to appear sleazy, as there
is a world of difference between a sexual man
and a sleazy one. A sexual man has an honest
appreciation for beauty and gets pleasure from it,
whereas a sleazy guy has a running porno video
in his mind and views women as a sex object. To
practice this skill, try to keep holding eye contact
in every interaction with a woman. Dont look
away and notice their reactions. If they appear
uncomfortable, keep practicing and try to smile
more, in a genuine and sexually interested way.
As you practice this, you can let her in on the
fact that you fnd her attractive and play with
fake coyness, women can and WILL pick up on
this and it becomes a sort of game, as every
comment you make can become pregnant with
sexual undertones.To practice this, try and focus
on something that you fnd physically attractive
about her and gain pleasure from it and SHOW IT
to the girl. Use the powerful statements in method
fve to enhance the effect.
Method three pregnant pauses and sexual
innuendo When youre confdent, showing
prolonged eye contact and using sexual humour,
you can also use pauses and sexual innuendo.
These techniques can be applied at any point
during the pickup.Here is an example, this is an
actual transcript taken from a 2 minute number
close, which lead to an f close on a day 2.PUA :
You look just like the cat that got the cream
(PAUSE, looking at her in smiling way, but with
sexual intent)See any interesting guys in here
(INNUENDO)HB : Not really, its a bad night..Except
you (attraction gained within 2 seconds)PUA :
(Ironic smile) I see..Youre very forward arnet
you? (Get closer). A bit of a naughty girl infact
(Sexual humour). Do you know what happens
to naughty girls (Innuendo)HB : I couldnt guess
(fake innocence)PUA : (Grabbing her bum). They
get their arses smacked, of course. But youd like
that (sexual humour)PUA : Where you from??In
the above example we have all of the techniques
being used simultaneously, which allowed me
to get a solid number close and arrange to meet
her for a day 2. It was necessary to build up some
comfort on text in order to solidify a day 2 but
using these techniques you can get solid numbers
very quickly as very very few guys out there are
making this kind of impression so quickly.
Method four Raise your standards.As a general
principle, whenever youre in conversation with
a girl, you need to keep 1 principle in mind :
know your standards and stick to them. Write
them down if you have to! What do you want in
a girl? What qualities are an absolute MUST (try
to be more specifc than 32DD breasts!). When
youre talking, is she displaying qualities that you
dont like? Has she said something that on some
level pisses you off? Then SHOW IT!!This sounds
obvious but its surprising how many guys will try
to hide their distaste in the hopes of getting into
a girls knickers. In truth the opposite is true : if
you show youre a man with standards and will
call her on shoddy behaviour, then youre much
more likely to gain attraction. Here is the key :
its how you show disdain that matters. DONT
get into a prolonged logical debate about her
behaviour or what she has said. Use your body
and a quick word to convey distaste. Turn away
from her a little if she genuinely pisses you off. Its
not necessary to tell her off, just say I see as you
backturn, or even thats a little weirdThen fall
silent. Youll fnd that if shes attracted, shell claw
at you and try to explain her position or apologise.
This is a great opportunity to be won over (if you
agree with what shes saying) and gain control of
the frame.
Method fve tell her what you want / shock
tactics.This technique is very powerful, and
can literally transform the dynamic of an
interaction with 1 clear sentence. It sends a very
direct signal to her that you are interested and
that you want her ;delivered at the right time
its a devastating technique and can instantly
transform an interaction and set the tone to
whatever you want.When in a conversation, you
can bust out these kind of powerful statements
but they have to be used at the right time. Use the
conversational pauses, look directly at her and
then deliver the statements. You can start off with
the tamer ones and move up the ladder to the
more powerful ones :
(i) When was the last time you got really drunk?
(Gets rapport and sets tone for day 2 meeting, gets
personal)
(ii) Those earrings (or X Y Z adornment) really say
a lot about you (playful and slightly ironic)What
do they say?? Curious arnet you..They tell me
that (go into cold read). (Gets personal, instant
DHV and shows you are paying attention, creates
attraction, sets dating / sexual frame)
(iii) Theres something about a girl like you
thats very sexy. I think its.the combination
of x quality and y quality. Wed be good
together, imagine what our kids would look like
(humourous) As long as they got my looks, it
would be cool anyway (Immediatley sets tone for
dating frame, gets her thinking of you in a bf / gf
way, funny)
(iv) This is getting boring when was the last time
you got fucked properly? (WHAM!! Very powerful,
can be used to create massive sexual tension, gets
her thinking of sex WITH YOU, in a very powerful
direct way)
You have to consider the effect that you want
to achieve in order to evaluate the best time
to use these statements. In the above four
examples, you might use (iii) immediately after
receiving an IOI, whilst invading her personal
space.You might use (iv) on a day 2, in a natural
pause in the conversation, after sexual tension
has been created but before you have kissed.
Especially effective if you are talking about boring
subjects that neither of you are interested in,
as conversation fllers, especially if she is the
nervous type.You must use your judgement about
when to use these statements. You can practice
by writing out some simple, declarative, powerful
statements that you want to achieve a particular
effect, then bringing them out at particular points
in the interaction.
Method six Invasion of personal space.Traditional
social dynamics literature will tell you that
respecting another persons personal space is very
important to avoid confict and create rapport.
This is mostly true, however in pickup, faunting
this rule can be extremely effective in creating
attraction. The main reasons why this works as
a technique are (i) You show that you have the
sexual confdence to escalate. Most guys are afraid
of screwing this up and losing the girl, and women
can sense this. If you are different, in that you
invade their personal space in a dominant and
congruent way, it shows that you are not like most
men and have more sexual confdence. Displays
like this send a very clear signal to her that you
are the kind of man that can take her to bed and
show her a good time, something that is lacking
in most men. It shows you are an alpha male
and that when you see something you like, you
go for it.(ii) It shows that you are investing in the
interaction and are not afraid to put your balls on
the line.
Again, you are not behaving in a wishy washy
way and are clearly telegraphing your interest to
the girl in a direct and powerful way. Ironically,
you are less likely to receive a negative reaction if
you act in this way than if you pussyfoot around
and are scared to screw up or scare her away.
So how do you do it?Firstly, when talking, use
the techniques above. When you get one IOI,
move straight in. Get closer to her. Kino lightly,
start off by putting your hand on her arm and
whisper in her ear. Immediately drop any cocky
techniques and get serious with her, by delivering
a powerful statement about how you like her..In
all seriousness, were messing around butI gotta
say I like you because of X Y Z quality (pick out
a quality thats unique to her DONT JUST SAY
NICE TITS. Try and think of something unique).
Now youre having a real interaction! Sexual
interest is there, its established, youre on. Now
its time to focus on building and escalating to an f
close, this will be covered in later chapters. Or, you
can get a number close and if you reach this point,
you can be 90% sure the number will not fake if
you use the techniques as directed.
More bar and club game techniques
Although I believe game is game, I think this kind
of stuff is more suited to bars / clubsDaytime is
more about fast closes or longer insta dates (in my
experince tho I am no day game specialist)
See my blog for the club game and sexual
escalation techniques.
So
(i) What needs further explanation / clarifcation
(ii) Is it well explained?
(iii) How could it be improved for you?? e.g explain
HOW TO in easy steps
POST FOLLOWS!!
Key principles
Indifference to outcome
You must be coming from a place where you
are not leeching off her, or TAKING SOMETHING
from her that she doesnt want to give. Sexual
attraction and tension should be its own free
fowing entity that exists between TWO people,
its not something that you should be wanting
to take from her. Therefore in the early stages,
until you have gained mutual respect and sexual
attraction is between both of you, you must try
NOT TO CARE about the outcome. This mindset
encompasses a number of sub elements
You shouldnt be thinking of what she is thinking
of you.
You shouldnt be thinking in terms of what can I
do to impress this girl.
You must not be WANTING or NEEDING anything
off her.
You must not attach your emotional state to how
she reacts to you.
Dominance
The aspect of dominance is vital because it
demonstrates that
You are a man who will take charge and LEAD
her in a way that is highly exciting to her : sexy,
slightly risky, strong, forceful.
You demonstrate physical dominance using the
techniques described here, sexual dominance, and
fnally mental dominance (breaking her and then
the shift of mindset).
Putting your real personality on the line
adopting frame of doing what your body says. If
you are acting in the moment, and NATURALLY
i.e indifferent to outcome and knowning you have
broken her, you cannot help but do this. You
should be living in your own reality but at the
same time you are painfully honest with the HB
and you give of yourself.
Step One : dominate and break her.
This is the stage when you are clearly attracted to
each other, IOIs are fowing.
First step is that you must make a quick strike and
break her.
Breaking the girl is more overt and obvious for
sexually agressive girls.. But it is a method that is
employed on ALL girls in the early stages, though
the technique is different.

The idea of breaking the girl is that you have to
quickly establish who is in charge, so in addition
to the indifferent frame that we are familiar
with that has been discussed elsewhere, you are
demonstrating to her as a man that you are going
to LEAD her, but in a confdent, slightly risky way
that will turn her on. You are overwhelming her
in a short space of time and OWNING her in a
sexy risky way.
Sexually aggressive girls
You have to make an assessment of the level of
sexual aggression of the girl, go a notch higher
and then break her with your aggression and
dominance.
Ways of spotting her sexual agressivity:
How hard does she kiss is she a PASSIVE kisser
(receiver), or does she push back with her tongue?
Does she move your hands for you to where she
wants them to be?
Does she grab you with force with her hands?
Is she generally feisty i.e doing what she wants,
lots of energetic movements?
As a basic principle, you must always be in charge.
If she starts to dominate YOU sexually, you
must stop that immediately and physically and
aggressively take charge:
If she kisses you back hard, increase the tension
by pulling back, grabbing her face, forcing her
mouth onto yours
If she is moving your hands, GRAB her hands, pin
them and push her back.
If she keeps moving around, pin her down, stop
her, get her doing what you want her to do.
You should fnd that she will submit to your
physical will after a few push backs. If she
doesnt, KEEP GOING. YOU HAVE to take charge
and dominate her. In your mind you are thinking
: I am the man here, I am in charge, this girl will
not tame me, I am going to break her.
For other types of girls..

For other types of girls your approach is
less aggressive but you are still physically
demonstrating that you are in charge. So when
kissing her, withdraw and look at her, study
herThen do a move that shows that as the man
you are leading, you are in charge, and you will
dominate her..
Put one hand under her chin, tilt her head back.
Put your hand on the back of her head, arrange it
so that its in a good position for kissing then move
in and kiss her..Whilst doing so put your hand on
the side of her face and stroke it gently.
NOTE : The move is irrelevant really, this is just
an example and one that I use, its the underlying
MINDSET that is CRUCIAL.
This move shows her physically that you are in
charge, in a dominant but less sexually aggressive
way than with sexually aggressive HBs.

When you do this you should fnd that you get
HUGE DDB eyes. You know that look that women
get when their mouths are slightly open and they
look a but dumb, and their eyes are HUGE and
shining? This is what should happen
Phase two : The shift (now she is yours)
Once this has happened, sit back and look at her
in a complacent way. At this point you are now
going to reinforce what has just happened and
assert your position further.
Now is the time to ARRANGE herMove her about
a bit, say come here, in an offhand way, then
smack her bum.
Your mindset :
This is my girl now, Ive broken her and shes
submitted. There is NO QUESTION that she is
mine, all pretence is gone.
Phase three : comfort
Now that you are comfortable, and have broken
her, she is yours and you are steering the
interaction. In addition to the usual rapport /
comfort techniques, you will reinforce this with
PHYSICAL actions
Your touch should be more tender
Your faces should be physically closer
Rub noses with her
Stroke her face
So within the space of a few minutes to half
and hour you are sending her emotions on a
rollercoaster rideIn her mind she is thinking:
Yeah Im the shit, Im confdent, etc etc.
Then you guy roll up and take charge, you appear
to be all man You have lead her and controlled
her in a way that she likes and that turns her on.
Then all of a sudden you are leaning back, looking
at her like shes a little girlWhats going on? You
suddenly appear to be treating her differently
Some switch has fipped in your mind and shes
now certain that this is a man that she cannot
tame, that she can never control..But wait, now
youre acting soppy, and youre getting to know
her, youre tender too, a strong man with a tender
sideShe loves it..And youre interested in her as
a person too, and you want to know more
Can you see how this rollercoaster ride can
fascinate a woman??
These three phases can happen very quickly
(literally within 3-5 minutes or even shorter), or
may take up to 20. But you should aim to be in
the comfort phase within 5 minutes.
In comfort
Whatever your style for creating comfort is, when
you are in this phase you cannot backslide and
contradict the impression you have already made.
You must adopt the usual principles but also be
indifferent to the outcome. Dont wuss out now.
Generally throughout the entire PU your
underlying mindset is
This is one girl, there are millions more out there
and I can get them
I am the man and I am in charge
HOWEVER
Put yourself on the line and dont dick around
Tell her you like her and SHOW it..But the
underlying FRAME shouldnt change, since you
are not coming from a place of NEEDINESS, you
are coming from an authentic place as a man
who has already DEMONSTRATED that you are
in charge and you are aware that she is attracted
to you (the mental phase shift)Now you are
showing that you like her too. You can now
AFFORD to be 100% genuine and natural with her
and the PU will move along naturally towards its
logical outcome.
Gambler: Strip Club Game: How To Game
Strippers, Get Their Numbers And Close
Them
Okay so weve established that the strip club is a
good place to pick up. How do you do it? Well the
guys here all have a different approach.
Anthony P is very sexually aggressive. He aims
to be more sexual than the girl. He is very direct,
hell grab them and mess with them. Hell be very
intense. These are tough girls so they respond well
to this.
Steve/Vertex is more cocky/funny and uses his
wit. He is very sexual and manly, and strippers
are probably very happy to meet a man that looks
like he can handle their sexuality because he has
more than them.
I go the rapport route and show difference from
the usual customers. I give them something they
havent experienced before, and get to their real
emotions and the real person under the faade.
The key in all cases is to break the frame. It starts
as you being the punter, and it changes into you
being a potential boyfriend/date/sexual partner.
This is the key in every case.
None of us use the Mystery Method or Archer
Sloan stuff for strip clubs, we dont think it is
necessary.
Strategy
Before I will write something about strategy I
would like to introduce myself. My name is Strat,
I have been living in Germany, France, the USA
and Australia. During that time I got to know a lot
of different women in partially totally different
cultures. However interesting is that one thing
always works with women all around the world:
Strategy
What is strategy? Of course there is the kind
of strategy that you need to compete against
competitors in the business environment, there is
the kind of strategy that leads small countries to
victories against big countries in a time of war, but
there is also the kind of strategy that is involved
in seducing, keeping and winning women back.
The last one is the kind of strategy that I have
been studying since I got my frst real kiss when I
was 14. This kind of strategy is about psychology.
What I am good in is the long term seduction.
Strategically thought through, well planned and
executed.
What I will write about in my posts has not much
to do with the actual process of picking up. I will
leave that up to professionals like Gambler and
his team, Mystery and Ross. I will write about
getting the women that you cannot get. The
woman that has a boyfriend and who you cannot
pick up in a bar, on the street or in a club. The
woman that you have been knowing forever but
that does not notice you because you are just not
her type, or the woman that you had been with,
you still love and who is with another guy now.
Boyfriend Destroyer Strategy by Strat
First I want to say that I am sorry for not posting
anything in such a long time. I was long thinking
about publishing this post because it is somehow
evil. It gives you an overview over the tools to
attract a person that is in a relationship and to
somehow manipulate her to be turned her away
from her boyfriend. I dont know if you guys are
religious, but I think that you should at least not
mess with an instance that is way higher then
you. Therefore I am writing this post because I
want you to see what other people might try to
destroy your relationship by getting your girl. This
post is therefore designed to make you realise that
especially a long relationship is not a guarantee
for an everlasting relationship. I dont want to
encourage you to actually use this strategy as I
said I it is evil in my eyes. I have done it and it
worked over and over again but after a couple
years I have realised that it is more important to
know about this kind of strategy and to prevent it
from happening once you have the girl that you
really love.
This strategy is for boyfriends who dont want
their women to get slowly seduced by another
guy out of their own arms. However I am writing
it as if you would be the guy how wants to seduce
another girl, because that is the position that I
know best.
If you for example already know the woman for a
while or you know that you would not be able to
pick her up in just one night and you know that
you want her as your girlfriend. If you just want
to have fun for a couple nights, then Gamblers,
Mysterys and Rosss Methods defnitely work
better.
I always found that girls that are in a relationship
are actually easier to get then girls that are not.
The longer the relationship has been the easier it
is. Most guys probably thing the opposite. Thus I
will explain you why that is.
A girl that has been in a relationship for lets say
two years is defnitely missing something. If she is
not then we need to demonstrate her that she is.
Especially girls between 17 and 26 have a intuitive
drive to experience something, some more some
less, but everybody has this drive build in by
mother nature. It is also a fact that most guys
dont care about their girl after two years as much
anymore as at the beginning. They might argue a
bit more, sex is almost a routine, kisses get shorter
and less after a couple months and the attention
they give her is not as high as it used to be.
But we all know that girls need attention. Guys
are kind of retiring after a couple years and think
that they have the girl for sure because she is
constantly bagging him for more kisses, love and
attention. Thus this is exactly our chance. This is
where we attack. This is where we win her over!
Once you got the girl to go out with you, to spend
a day with you or something else the frst step is
to:
1. Study her boyfriend
What does he do? How old is he? How long has
their relationship been going on for? Ask her
simple superfcial questions frst, later on try to
get her to tell you about their relationship. The
goal is to fnd out if there are any weaknesses. Do
they go out a lot? Is he taking her on vacations?
Is he just lying on the sofa when he gets home?
Are they doing a lot with their friends? Is he
creative? Those questions need to come out
naturally though, dont bomb her with exactly
those questions; these are just the questions that
you want to have answered for yourself. By asking
her a couple questions she might even tell you her
complains and that is exactly where we want to
have her.
2. Demonstrate value
From now on his weaknesses needs to be your
strength. If she tells you that they are usually at
home watching movies, then that is exactly what
you will not do! You will take her out, take her
to a lake rent a canoe or take her to nice places
that you know. Just make sure that she hasnt
been there with him yet. Otherwise it will just
remind her of good old times with her boyfriend.
She will feel like betraying him by coming there
with you and she will block. Hence it has to be a
place where she hasnt been. It also always looks
good if you make it look like it is spontaneous,
like you just had a great idea. Maybe dont even
tell her yet were you will go. If you think about
it, in a long relationship everything is usually
planed, she knows how much time he has, she
knows the places that he knows and there are no
real surprises anymore. Therefore surprise her!
Make her laugh! Make her enjoy the day like no
other day! If he is more the quite guy, then be
crazy! Be the opposite. Make her realise that she
is missing out. Be a gentleman, be all the things
that he has forgotten, fght for her! Her boyfriend
is not fghting for her anymore, he is probably not
opening every door for her, because he thinks he
is on the save site.
Show her that there is a lot more to do in the
world then watching movies. She needs to have
the feeling that she is missing out when she is
spending time with him and not with you. Make
her realise that live can be so much more exiting,
funny and spontaneous and interesting with you.
3. Dont talk about him unless she brings it up
After you have studied her boyfriend in the frst
part, dont ever mention him again. You dont
want her to think about him, in fact you want her
to forget him, to just enjoy her time. If she brings
him up, listen to her, but dont let it turn into
a big discussion. Just listen and agree with her.
She will project all the things that he is not into
you by complaining to you about him and by you
agreeing with her. Just say every once in awhile
things like: Hmm, I cant understand that, That
is wired, Why would he do that?
4. Spend time with her
This is actually the most diffcult and crucial part
because here you have to take care that you dont
turn into her best friend that she can do nice
things with and then she goes home and gets
the sex from her boyfriend. The goal is to make
her as comfortable around you as possible and to
make her fall in love with you. The trick is to do
that without her even recognising it. I mean, if
you think about it, what is the difference between
a good friend a boyfriend? It pretty much just
comes down to the physical part. Hence, touch her
gently every once in a while. If you walk next to
her make your hand touch hers for half a second,
when you sit in front of her, put her hair back,
make her gentle compliments like: Your hair is
beautiful, I love you fngers. You can learn a lot
of those things from the PUAs posting on this site.
make her attracted to you.
This case is a bit different from a seduction
in a bar though in a bar you need to win her
attention here you already have it, you are already
somewhat between a friend and a boyfriend
hence compliments from you are like from some
random guy at a pub.
When you drop her off tell her nice things like: It
was wonderful with you, as always- big smile- If
she tells you this then reply Well it was you who
made it wonderful, I was just the driver. Or tell
her when she just got out of the car: Hey! You can
call me anytime you want.
Again, this might sound a bit cheesy and some
PUAs might disagree with me here because you
could say that you are running after her a bit, well
in this case you are not. You want to win her over
by being at the right time in the right place.
5. Wait for the right time
Dont make a move when she is happy with her
boyfriend right now, wait for a day when she is
annoyed by him, they had an argument or she
is just pissed because of something he did. This
will lower the chance to be rejected dramatically.
She will not run off with you when she just got
ffty roses from him that day. If you have done the
fourth step right she might even call you when
she wants to talk to you or when she is annoyed
by him. Try the ideas to get a kiss close from this
site to actually kiss her.
Dont be shocked if she doesnt kiss you back. I
will write you in the next couple of posts what to
do in this case or what do so that this doesnt turn
out into a onetime thing that she regrets.
Gambler: High-Rollers, lots of money, not
so much game
Recently, Ive started going to upmarket venues.
Ive met lots of guys in there who will happily
spend 1000 on a night out, and one of the main
reasons they are spending that much is to get
women. They order champagne and invite women
to share it with them. The funny thing is, even in
these cases, the guys often dont get anywhere.
They say Im an investment banker at Goldman
Sachs and they think that the women will get
wet over that. Fact is, most women would prefer
a mountain climber who plays the electric guitar
any day over just another guy with money.
Think about it, these women of high value have
offers of dinners and champagne every day of
the week. These guys defnitely lack what PUAs
call game. Their game is to get the girls drunk,
get drunk themselves, and see if she rejects the
sleazy advances. Of course, if the guy is not too
bad looking and the girl isnt too fussy, it might
work, but are these guys getting what they want?
Do they feel satisfed with only the kind of girls
that will sleep with them as long as they get to
live a nice lifestyle. The usual problem with these
guys is not running out of things to say like it
is with other guys, its talking too much about
themselves, being boring, and not being sensitive
to what the woman wants. For us in these clubs,
its pretty funny. We dont spend money, and the
girls really dont care, theyre happy to meet guys
that are attractive past the wallet, that know how
to treat them, how to talk to them, and how to
turn them on.
Gambler: The common sticking points
After meeting nearly 400 customers, its become
possible to categorise guys into a number of
sticking points. They will either have one or many,
and luckily we have a method of getting over each
one. The common sticking points are:
1. Fear of the approach.
2. Run out of things to say and get stuck
conversationally.
3. Get into a long conversation and dont know
how to close.
4. Get numbers but they fake.
5. Get dates and girls dont want to see them
again after frst one.
6. Dont know how to escalate physically.
7. Girls just want to be friends.
And the answers to these are:
1. Desensitisation, giving content, confdence
boosting, framing the situation differently,
motivation strategies.
2. Impro exercises and giving content.
3. Verbally leading into a number or kiss close.
4. Solid number closing, text game, phone game.
5. Rapport, day-2 system, status.
6. Sexual tension, verbal and non-verbal sexual
escalation.
7. Sexual escalation, prizing.
Of course, every individual is different and its bad
to categorise guys like that, but thats basically it.
I know that I had each of the 7 problems when I
started out and each of them are relatively easy to
overcome given focused effort.
Gambler: Not Being Dumped: Keeping
the girl
A friend of mine recently pulled a very hot girl.
She is the most attractive girl hes even number
closed.
He met her in a club, saw her for a date,
everything was cool. He had another date with
her, and he thought he made some mistakes.
Then disaster struck, he called, she didnt answer,
she didnt call back and hours had passed, he
thought shed gone off him and that was that.
My thoughts were this: You meet the girl and close
her, that means she likes certain things about you.
Maybe you were cocky and funny, maybe you were
sweet, whatever. The problem is that when a guy
falls for a girl or puts too much pressure on the
situation, he changes. He stops doing the things
that made her fall for him initially, the attraction
disappears and then hes fnished.
So, the advice to anyone who fnds this situation
familar is this: Think about what the girl liked
about you when you frst met her and give her
more of this.
Oh yeah, the end of the story? Its all cool, she had
a legitimate excuse and is now chasing him.
Guys, do this stuff, but there is much more you
can do to keep a girl interested, without being a
jerk.