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Just to restate one of the points above, the TwinStack will give you a noticeable improvement on any Blues
Junior, but the tone stack mod brings out the best by providing more available bass and mids. With more mids
on tap from the tone stack, you have more available when the control is wide open, down to zero when the
control is at 1. So you improve on the stock tones at both ends.
When we do this mod in the shop, we bridge the center and left mids pot terminals on the back of the board. If
youre going to be pulling the board to install other mods, plan on doing it from the back; its faster and easier.
Heres how: First, start with a short scrap of wire that bridges the two left pins of the mids pot. A thicker clipping
from the tone caps or power supply stiffening caps is perfect.
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Next, apply heat from your soldering iron to the middle of the wire. Add a little bit of solder if necessary to help
the melt.
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62 Comments
1. Dave says:
March 22, 2009 at 9:19 pm
I can see the offenders on ebay selling the twin stack mod kit and when unsuspecting people
buy it all they will get is a little piece of wire and instructions for $15. + $3. s/h . LOL
Dave
2. Trey Pitchford says:
June 5, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Have you done this mod to any other controls? If so whats the out come
bill says:
June 5, 2009 at 5:08 pm
The TwinStack jumper is not a magic fix that works on other controls in some generic
way. Its specific to the mids control and changes its operation from a potentiometer to a
variable resistor. Its not appropriate for any of the other controls.
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3. marsholie says:
June 17, 2009 at 6:42 pm
would be be ok to put a switch so i can go back and forth if i wanted to?
bill says:
June 17, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Theres no point to making the TwinStack switchable. The tone stack mod gives you
more mids overall, and the TwinStack mod gives you the ability to remove all of them. So
you create a larger range of adjustment from none to more than stock than you had
before.
4. Vin Scag says:
June 21, 2009 at 10:32 am
I was very pleased at how easy this mod was to do, especially for an amateur like myself.
The dialability/sound is great.
I got too excited with it and opened the back of my 06 Hot Rod Deluxe to do the mod there.
The C6 is right in front of the terminals on the mid and I dont imagine it can be done at
this side of the PCB.
I imagine this mod should be done by a good tech who would remove the board to do it on
the
other side.
(a mans got to know his limitations!)
5. frank swindells says:
June 30, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Hi
Thats interesting reading
If I get my amp tec to do this on my blues junior will I have the twin sound and also the stock
sound available
Cheers
Frank
bill says:
July 1, 2009 at 8:43 am
If you do the TwinStack mod, it works best with the tone stack mod and power supply
stiffening provided in the basic mods kit. It gives you a very broad adjustment range,
from less-than-stock mids and that Twin-like clean tone to more bass and mids.
6. Jonathan says:
July 1, 2009 at 9:21 am
I got a little confused when I was doing this oneI have a 2003 cream board, but the mid pot
doesnt have any pins to solder together, only eyelets. I did the solder connection on the
green back, but do I need to do both?
Thanks
Jon
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No, they have nothing to do with one another electronically. Tone-wise, they get along
just fine.
11. balde says:
September 14, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Hello bill,
I have a DRRI amp. I modded mine with some features.
one of the mods, was the inclusion of a mid pot instead of the fixed 6.8 k resistor. I replaced
that with a 25k mid pot. my question is, if i turn the pot all the way counter clockwise
(minimum position) am i cutting all midrange freq like thw twin mod or am i leaving some??
thank u very much for your concern
bill says:
September 15, 2009 at 7:30 am
To make the TwinStack mod work, you have to connect the wiper of the mids pot to the
side of the mids pot that connects to the bass pot. This allows the mids pot to be
bypassed completely for super-scooped tone. It also shuts off all sound when all three
tone controls are turned all the way down.
12. Steve Austin says:
October 26, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Hi Bill,
Just thought I would update progress on my BJr. I did the tone stack mod, adjustable bias,
power supply stiffening, twin stack mod and changed the volume control to an audio taper.
The difference in sound was better but still did not make the amp gig worthy as the sound just
kind of disappeared among the other guys, especially the drummer. Then I tried one more
thing. I switched out the stock Groove Tube power tubes for 2 Mullard EL 84 s and what a
difference! That one mod got rid of the the mushy tone completely and together with your
mods, this amp has become one of the best small club amps Ive ever played through, outside
of a Princeton of course. The tone can go from crystal clear with my Strat to down and dirty
Skynyrd type harmonics with my Les Paul. Of course it has excellent highs and, with the
Mullards, some pretty decent lows now. In most clubs I never have to go above 3 and if I do
watch out for your ear drums. It does start to distort around 4. Any effects can be achieved
through my pedals. The only thing that might improve the amp at this point would be some
6L6 output tubes like the Princeton. But then if I did that and changed out the speaker I guess
it would cost about the same as a real Princeton, cost wise. For no more money than I have in
this amp though (I bought it used) it sounds great and solves the issue of weight when
carrying it to a gig. Ive also recorded with it and it does a superb job there as well. Thanks for
the help.
13. Tom Jordan says:
November 1, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Bill,
Got the parts today, did the work and just finished test driving the Blues Jr. Youre right, the
mod opens up the tone of this amp fantasically! It went from that tone that some call boxy or
muffled (to me, it made my Tele sound like a Strat in switch position 2 or 4) and has really
opened up. Plenty of bass and the power to project it but most importantly the ability to adjust
the tone for a wide range of choices.
My motovation for doing this mod was to be able to play my pedal steel through it for my
solo/midi and coffee shop type gigs. Before the mod, the mids were untamed and I wasnt
able to get a useable steel tone (E9 tuning and 18.5k single coil pickup). I put the BJ and steel
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through the test this morning and was pleasantly suprized! It sounds like a mini twin reverb.
High end sparkle, sufficient bass and most importantly control of the mids from none to
plenty.
I will have no trouble using this for steel/Tele on my small gigs and for a no hum recording
rig. I dont think I could use it for a steel gig with a drummer (maybe brushes though or
mikeddepends on the drummer) but for sure with my Tele. This Blues Jr is now a very
useable and just the ticket for those in and out light-duty gigs.
My voltages for plates (11.74) and bias (2.42) came out just as you suggested and the mod
was a fun way to spend the evening. Your instructions were very detailed and easy to follow.
This thing sounds like a Fender,
Tom
14. Rock Mumbles says:
November 1, 2009 at 10:27 pm
A friend and I just did the tonestack capacitor mods and the twin-stack jumper mod to a
newer Blues Junior. The owner liked the amp because of size and weight but thought it could
be more like a Fender amp. He was thinking about buying a new speaker, and Id read quite
a bit about Blues Juniors needing a new speaker, so that was my first inclination, but then I
remembered reading about your tone stack mods. To make a long(er) story short(er), the
combination of the tonestack and twin-stack mods made the amp sound like it was an entirely
new amplifier, it sounds like a real Fender amp now!
15. BlueSimon says:
November 10, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Bill,
Im a blues harp player in China.Last year I bought a NOS Blues Junior from the States.Its
really hard for me to fight with the feedback in gigs.Does this mod help to eliminate
feedback?Thanks.
Best Regards
BlueSimon
bill says:
November 10, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Some harp players say they get better headroom before feedback with the Twinstack
because it makes the tone controls less interactive and they can pull out more mids. I
think that the best solution for harp is a 10-band graphic equalizer pedal. With it, you can
pull down the main feedback frequency and leave the rest of your tone intact. More bands
equal more precision, but then youd need a piece of rack equipment, not a pedal.
16. todd huber says:
December 19, 2009 at 2:29 am
Bill,I did your twin stock mod today,my junior sounds really good cant wait to do your basic
mods.I want to do a twin stock mod on my hotrod deluxe.Is there anything i need to know
about flipping the circuit board to get at it.I assume every thing else is similiar to working on
blues junior.Or is there a site as good as yours with illustrations.I am new to all of this.Thanx
for your help. Todd
bill says:
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Unfortunately, the only good Hot Rod Deluxe site disappeared a few months back and its
former host (Eastern Kentucky University) blocks access via Archive.org. So youre on
your own with the HRDx.
17. Mr_Wormwood says:
December 22, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Bill,
I did the twin stack mod, and did not notice much difference. I was careful to make the wire
only go barely into the pots holes and was also mindful of overheating of the pot. Is it
possible that I did it wrong, or is it more likely that the difference is subtle to my ear? I guess
what I really mean is if I did do something wrong, would there be a symptom that would be so
overt that I could not miss it such as amp simply does not work or explodes or something?
The mids pot does still function (if its on one and I turn it to 11 I can hear a subtle change in
tone) and I am sure that I put the wire in the correct holes.
I have not done any of the other mods yet but plan to, and I am just hoping that the twin
stack mod is so subtle because I have not yet replaced the caps with orange drops yet.
I am very interested in your prices for mods actually done by you as well but when I sent you
an email requesting prices a few weeks ago, it was not answered.
Is there a way to contact you for this or should I just email you again?
Thanks for all your info, you provide a wonderful cornucopia of information fir Blues Jr owners
and we are grateful for your passion for amp modification
bill says:
December 23, 2009 at 10:20 am
You can verify the correct operation of the TwinStack by turning off all three tone
controls. If youve done it right, no sound comes out of the amp. You can then turn up
the bass and treble for a super-scooped tone.
18. Joe says:
February 20, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Hi Bill
I have a Fennder Blues Jr. (U.S. made) and want to change the 2 tone stack caps. Can I
aquire The Orange Drops Caps from yourself. If so how much $?
bill says:
February 21, 2010 at 1:42 pm
The Orange Drops are part of the basic mods kit.
19. Randy Harper says:
February 24, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Wow! You are my BJ hero! I have a Limited Edition which I play a modded Nashville Tele
(Duncan Hot Rods) and a PRS Custom 22 on a modern country/southern rock gig and was
getting ready to get another amp. After this little mod and a check through my pedal board
with both guitars I will keep using this little guy. I have a friends Japanese Mustang and she
may not get it back. It sounds very transparent in clean/fat mode.
20. Joe feliciano says:
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Ok, just got finished with the twin mod on my blues jr. This amp made me nuts all I wanted
was a clean fender tube amp that did not cost too much. $500.00 was a good price I was so
happy in the store but at home and playing with the band it sucked: flab flab flab. so I put in a
Texas heat and it was a little better. Then the tubes. If you ask me, GTs are crap anyway, so I
put in some JJs power tubes, electro hamonix pre amp tubes: 12at 12ax 12ay. I do have a
little buzz now that I didnt have before, but I think thats on me and my work I can fix it so
now I have $650.00 amp and its sound is great, tone is great.
21. Alice Buffalo says:
May 10, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Bill,
I did the Twin stack mod and the amp sounds great (no other mods done). I can actually hear
differences when I fiddle with the knobs and the highs ring. The amp is much closer to the
jazzier sound Id like, and that old guitar sound like in Little Esther Phillips The Storm.
I have noticed, though, that the amp seems quieter with the mod. When I pull the wire out
and dont change any settings, its louder. Is this change in volume real or apparent (because
everything is clearer with the mod, the amp may only seem quieter)?
Ive also noticed that the low end sustains more. I almost cant play with the fat switch on
because the notes just keep going until I dampen them. Why would this happen? (If it makes
any difference, Im using a Heritage H-516 with humbuckersexcellent guitar)
Thanks.
bill says:
May 11, 2010 at 7:53 am
When you install the TwinStack jumper, youre reducing mids, so you are in fact pulling
out some of the signal. The amp is a little quieter, but you can add the mids back in again
with the mids control. Or you can compensate with more volume or more bass and treble
if you want scooped tone. With the jumper in place, youve separated the interaction
between the mids and bass pots, so you may need to turn the bass down a bit, especially
on a green board, so it doesnt sound too prominent.
22. david jones says:
June 10, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Hey Bill. it seems you nearly always use orange caps .
what do you think of other types such as SOZO mustard caps ?
bill says:
June 14, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I dont hear a difference. The Orange Drop model I use is film-and-foil construction, like
most other premium caps. Theyre designed for PCB mounting.
23. Scott says:
June 20, 2010 at 10:11 am
I tried this mod a couple of weeks ago, and now I can finally stop adjusting the controls
constantly and just enjoy playing! This really gave me control over the lower mids which were
mushing up the bass sound. This small mod has made me love this amp so much more.
TIP: dont let the wire be too long. It only needs to go into the eyelet a little bit before it
creates a short. I sound checked it before I soldered to make sure its right and Im glad I did
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I just picked up a 2006 MIM Blues Jr, Id love to give this mod a shot, but to be honest, I am
worrying about electrocution. I used to have an Epi Valve Jr half stack and had a tech do the
Bitmo Trio mod on it due to the cautions listed. I was told the amp could hold a charge for a
while. I am a complete novice when it comes to electronics, is this something to consider
when doing this mod?
Thanks.
bill says:
September 7, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Read the Removing the Circuit Board page for an explanation of how the amp
self-discharges. If you have no experience soldering on printed circuit boards, I
recommend getting help from someone who does.
27. Ian Edwards says:
October 4, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Dear Bill,
Holy crap I just did the twinstack mod. Its amazing! It really evens out dissonant chords in a
way that I couldnt control before. I can hear now that it was some mid-low bass that you
couldnt get rid of before that was causing the problem. Anyways, thanks for the freebie!
Greatly looking forward to the kits that I ordered.
28. John Vengrouskie says:
October 5, 2010 at 8:28 am
Bill,
Been reading you for a wghile, the new site is grand
I have a line on a Blues Jr with intent to make it My Way whatever that is.
I have a Fender Supersonic that I love (absurdly loud as it can be), especially since putting a
JBL G-125 in it. Itll surf, itll crunch, itll sound like a recording amp in any vein I ask it. I have
a second G-125 and my thought is that it might go well in the B-jr if I can get the amps tone
in that ballpark of a Deluxe/Vibrolux sorta thing. Any suggestions there?
thanks for all the writing and doing!
JV
bill says:
October 5, 2010 at 9:56 am
The basic mods, TwinStack, and presence control will give you much more tonal
flexibility. An upgraded output transformer will give you better tone quality. The rest is
icing on the cake.
29. cgt465 says:
October 5, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Thanks again Bill, are there any mods that help the Master volume and/or the Pregain volume
have some rolloff between zero and 1 or 2? It seems to JUMP right in, very little tweak room if
I want to play it quietly.
Thanks again
bill says:
October 6, 2010 at 7:50 am
The volume control is already audio taper, so theres nothing else you can do to improve
the jump-up between 1 and 2. Then again, I cant imagine why youd want to set the gain
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that low. Its better to control the loudness with the master volume. On my Mod Kits
page, I have an audio taper control for the master. It makes the loudness curve much
more gradual.
30. dan smith says:
October 6, 2010 at 8:52 am
Hi Bill i recently got a kit from you,the basic kit for the mim amp and the presence
control/twinstack mod and had it fitted by a good local amp tech and the amp initially sounded
great but after playing loud was getting interfearance in the notes after youve played them.I
looked at the phase invertion oscillation atricles and did the lead dress which has helped but i
now seem to be getting the sound of the spring reverb in the speaker(rattlin/distortion)which
is actually is a marshall reverb that someone who had the amp before me has added,do you
think this marshall rev could be the problem??also i changed the speaker to a eminence
cannabis rex after reading your articles on speakers because i play mainly jazz either with a
ibanez archtop or a tele with a p90,the speaker sounds great,tried it in my hrdlx as well.Since
the mods i am getting a amazing amount of bass from the amp and have it turned down to
2/3 on the amp when using neck pickup on either guitar,i wondered if i should be getting so
much bass and i know this is causing a lot of vibration within the cab and wondered if this is
normal???many thanks.Dan.
bill says:
October 20, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Are your tubes fresh? 50Hz hum (UK) is often caused by worn preamp tubes. 100Hz is
more often worn output tubes or old filter capacitors. The mods give you a LOT more
bass. I like bass.
31. David Pokotylo says:
November 2, 2010 at 11:51 am
I intend to do the mod using the pot jumper wir, but am wondering how much length I should
leave on the bent piece that goes in the eyelet?
You note not longer than the eyelets depth we talking 1-2 mm here?
Looking forward to doing this as my first mod on the amp!
bill says:
November 3, 2010 at 7:59 am
Just use enough wire to go into the eyelets. Better yet, do it on the back of the board
and do the rest of the basic mods, too! The video on the Removing the Circuit Board
page shows you how to get to the back quickly.
32. Pasi says:
November 3, 2010 at 9:38 am
Just did the mod and wow! The change is just radical!
Thank You a lot for this mod, now I get as much and little bass as I want to. I was just about
to sell this but now this sounds like an angel!
I had already changed the Celestion Gold in it and warmed the bias of the Sovteks to some
75 mV:s and now I dont have words to describe how great this sweet little amp sounds!
Hats off to Bill!
33. Joel P. says:
November 28, 2010 at 8:31 pm
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After having done almost all of your mods and changed the speaker to a Canabis Rex, I must
say the amp sounds wonderful. Since Im always searching for perfection, is it possible to
remove some of low mids from the mid control? In other words, can I narrow the freq band
controlled by the mid pot by removing from its bottom? I usually keep the mids at 1-2 to keep
a very clean sound but I like the upper midrange fullness when I bring the control up to 4-5
however I find its bottom end too muddy. The Low control is fantastic especially since
changing the preamp coupling capacitors do I dont really wanna bring it down. Thanks!
bill says:
December 17, 2010 at 10:07 am
Mids are tricky. The mids cap drains midrange tones out of the circuit. A larger cap
drains more mids in a broader range. A smaller cap drains fewer mids, but in a narrower
range. My tone stack changes the mids cap from .022uF to .015uF. You might want to try
a .01uF mids cap.
You did the TwinStack mod, right? Thats important for removing midbass from the stack.
Joel P. says:
December 19, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Yes I did the Twinstack mod as well as the presence control, Heyboer OT. Does the
mid control have a bell curve or is it essentially linear? I guess what Im looking for
is to raise the center frequency of the mid pot so that it affects fewer low mids. I feel
the mid control and the bass control overlap too much, as if the mid control was
voiced a little too low in the mid-band range. If I were to take what youre saying to
the extreme, what would be left of the mids if you had an extremely small cap on
the mid control? Would the mid control do anything? would there be a fixed amount
of mids left? Obviously I lack an understanding of electronics anyway, thanks a lot
for your help and your wonderful mod kits. I must have the nicest sounding BJr in
town!
bill says:
January 14, 2011 at 6:26 pm
The mids control drains the leftover mids out of the circuit after the bass
control is done. A smaller mids cap will leave more mids in the circuit, it will not
change the frequency range of the control. A larger mids cap, will drain more
bass out of the circuit, however.
34. dan smith says:
December 2, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Hi Bill,i recently emailed you because after the basic mods,presence,reverb taper,twin and
tonestack mods,cannabis rex speaker(nice speaker) my mexican bj has too much bass when
using my archtop,my teles fine but obiously is much brighter,i cant get enough sensitivity in
the bass control,i have the bass control set 1-2/2.5 but its a bit of a bass on or bass off kind
of thing,Can i do anyting to smooth it out like the reverb taper style?Or lower the bass orange
drop value?or have another lower gain input?If so what do you recommend?Regards.Dan.
bill says:
December 17, 2010 at 9:55 am
You could put in a .047uF instead of the .1uF bass cap. On the cream board, the bass
control is already audio taper, so theres no further advantage to be gained there. You did
the TwinStack mod, right? That pulls out the excess midbass.
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This is the Clean Boost module. Its 1 inch square and it connects to your amp in three places. All
connections are from the top of the circuit board, so theres no need to get to the back side.
R3 is a thumbwheel trimpot that lets you adjust the amount of boost. If youre not running the
boost along with the Fat switch, youll probably leave it wide open. If youre combining the Fat and
Clean Boost, and the jump in volume is a little too much, you can dial it back. This is probably a
one-time adjustment for most users.
The Billm Clean Boost uses premium components, including a Bourns cermet trimpot for reliable,
static-free operation, and a Xicon low-ESR (equivalent series resistance) capacitor for maximum
efficiency. It switches in and out silently, with no pops or clicks. The active connection uses
Mogami low-noise coaxial. This is mixing board/studio-grade cable. The control and power
connections are stranded, Teflon-coated wire for ruggedness and resistance to the errant
soldering iron when you install them.
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Heres the Clean Boost module installed in a cream board Blues Junior. The back of the board is
cushioned to prevent buzzes and vibration damage.
Although shown on a cream board, it works equally well on a green board, including those with
existing Billm mods. I supply the module fully assembled and tested, with instructions and wiring
options.
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1. Scott Pope says:
November 16, 2009 at 1:55 am
Bill, if the audio taper gain and master volume controls are both installed, is there
anything to keep from installing the clean boost and hardwiring it so its on all the
time? With the new TO20 or TO22 transformer, it seems like that would be a mod
you would want on all the time if you wanted your BluesJr to hold its own with
something like a Blues Deluxe, or a JTM45 or such on stage?
bill says:
November 16, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Sure, you can just ground the blue wire and itll be on all the time. Or just
leave the presence control pullswitch in the up position.
2. John says:
May 9, 2010 at 7:09 pm
It does exactly what is says on the tin. Great mod!
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TwinStack to clean it up. Then decide whether the Fat switch is more useful.
I dont recommend rewiring the Fat switch to control the Clean Boost. Its
actually easier to replace the existing jack with the stereo jack kit.
6. Sammy Wheeler says:
September 8, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Hey Bill!
Just looking through the mods you offer for the blues junior! Excellent! I was just
wondering with this particular one whether I have to have the prescence control
mod, in order to put the clean boost module in? I intend to use a two button
footswitch to toggle between the fat/clean boost via the stereo jack kit.
Best regards,
Sammy
bill says:
September 8, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Yes, you can wire it directly to the footswitch.
7. k-o-matic says:
December 28, 2010 at 5:30 am
Hello,
Sorry, I dont know anything about amp construction, so this might be a dumb
question But is it possible to convert this clean boost module into a mid boost
module, and be able to control the amount of mid boost with the trim pot? I have a
couple of D-style amps, so I am used to having the mid-boost function
Or is it possible to convert the Fat boost into a mid boost? Is that what the
de-fat-ing does? (replacing the 22uF bypass cap that the Fat switch turns on/off
with a smaller one)
Thanks in advance for your reply.
bill says:
January 14, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Given the simplicity of the BJr circuit, its not really possible to change the Fat
or Clean Boost into a mid boost. Turning up the mids control all the way gives
you some extra distortion and drive, but not as much as youd ever get out of
a Dumble-style amp.
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the clean boost so its on all the time. I mean- can it be like like giving the master
a 13, and 14?
bill says:
February 26, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Its really designed as a boost, not a permanent volume increase. But if you
love it, you could just turn it on and leave it on; it wont hurt anything.
9. Paul L says:
March 11, 2012 at 4:04 am
Hi Bill
Till I purchase a 2 button footswitch, can I bridge tip and ring on the stereo jack to
control both Fat and Clean Boost with a 1 button footswitch?
bill says:
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Yes, that will work, no problems.
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1. Tom says:
July 5, 2009 at 8:40 am
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Will this Standby Switch for Blues Junior work on a peavey classic 20 amp?
bill says:
July 5, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Im sure you could wire up the switch to work, but the kit is specifically for
Blues Juniors.
2. Tom Levens says:
October 24, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Ive come across a bit of information that might be of interest to your international
readers. Ive been repairing a cream-board Blues Junior sold in the UK that had
been cooking its output tubes. Not only was the Bias set WAY too hot (as was
expected) but the plate voltage was around 380V! The combination of the two was
leading to the tubes dissipating about 16W at idle toasty! In poking about, I
noticed that Fender had the export transformer wired for 230V mains, but there
was also a 240V option on the schematic. Thought Id give it a try its as simple
as swapping the white/black wire connected to S2B (on the mains switch) with the
black wire connected to P6 (on the main board next to the fuse F1). Now its
running cool with a B+ of
346V with the bias set correctly. If Fender are shipping all Blues Juniors to the UK
(and Europe?) set for 230V, Im guessing a lot of people might be running in to
problems depending on their local
voltage. So might be worth advising people to check their B+ and adjusting the
transformer if necessary.
Tom Whitwell says:
April 18, 2010 at 3:54 am
Tom, I just checked my UK Blues Junior, and it was wired for 230v. Not any
more! Thanks for the tip!
Andy P says:
October 5, 2010 at 9:23 am
This was true of my Hot Rod DeVille 212 as well! Its being fixed by a friend at
the moment and one of the first things we noticed when checking over the
board was the incorrect voltage due to the connections to the transformer.
Now it is running with a lower B+. This sounds like a common issue
crsturmer says:
February 7, 2011 at 5:45 am
Hi Tom, Thanks for this tip. To confirm, do you take the wire off S2B and
put it on P6 and take the P6 wire and put it on S2B? Sorry, if Im being
simple, I just want to be extra sure before doing this!!
3. Don LeBlanc says:
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Would installing this Standby switch void the warranty on a Blues Jr or are the
changes easilly reversible ?
bill says:
October 26, 2009 at 10:14 am
Im sure that it would void the warranty, but it is easily reversible.
4. mira arnaud says:
October 30, 2009 at 9:05 am
Hello,Im living in France and i will buy your standby switch. Do you give the
schemat with it?
Thank you
bill says:
October 30, 2009 at 6:23 pm
The instructions cover the international version of the amp, too. Photographs
show how to connect it.
5. Larry Seagle says:
December 19, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Will your standby switch for the BJ, work on my PRRI?
bill says:
December 21, 2009 at 9:52 am
Yes it works. Ive installed one, and its pretty cool. Unfortunately, I neglected
to write down the lengths of the connecting wires, so I cant offer it as a kit
until I get another PRRI in hand and install another.
6. Chris says:
January 8, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Would this by some chance also work Peavey Delta Blues?
Thank you!
bill says:
January 12, 2010 at 11:16 am
In theory, yes. In practice, youd have to route the B+ supply to the switch
and back to the board. Someone knowledgeable about the Delta Blues would
have to do it. The connector I supply in the kit is specific to the Blues Junior.
7. Javi says:
January 22, 2010 at 2:06 pm
This kit was super easy to install! You just have to take your time and be very
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careful when pushing/pulling the connectors onto the PCB. I braced the PCB with a
finger while I did this. Works great, excellent work Bill!
BillEvans1956 says:
June 17, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Just ordered my kit! Looking forward to getting it and making the swap. Glad
to hear that its straightforward. Thanks. Bill
Shrewsbury
United Kingdom
BillEvans1956 says:
July 2, 2011 at 10:01 am
Fitted and all up & working again. Excellent piece of kit. Thanks Bill
8. Mike says:
January 23, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Hi, will this standby switch work for Princeton Reverbs ? Thanks
bill says:
January 25, 2010 at 11:25 pm
The fit is very tight on a Princeton Reverb (Reissue). Im not currently offering
it as a kit, but I may do so in the future.
9. Mike says:
January 27, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Hello again,
Will this switch fit / work in a blackface or silverface Princeton Reverb ? If so, how
much is it and how can I order one ? Thanks again
bill says:
January 29, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Its a very tight fit in a Princeton Reverb, at least in a reissue. Im not offering
it as a kit right now. The switches I stock have push-on connectors, so youd
have to install female connectors on the appropriate leads in the PR.
10. Carlos says:
March 1, 2010 at 9:30 am
Hi!
I installed the switch while drinking a cup of coffee nursing a hangover on a
Saturday morning! Easy to install and works great!
Thanks Bill!
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Yes, the nut will fit. On Relics, I also rough up the switch with sandpaper
and/or a file and rub some black and brown permanent marker into the
scratches to complete the rusty look. I do the same with the replacement
input jack, which uses a different-sized nut than the original.
Good luck getting the back and case screws out.
Neal says:
August 31, 2010 at 12:23 am
ha, thanks Bill. Ive already done your basic mods so getting in a second
time wont be a problem, it sounds amazing so far, I cant wait to try the
TO20 tranny I also ordered
16. CSCAN15 says:
December 30, 2010 at 11:29 am
Hi Billwant to get this and have a couple questions. With replacing the switch, do
I have to worry about any voltage issues? Getting shocked? I thought it says plug
and play? Shouldnt you just have to unplug the existing terminals that are
connected to the stock switch and plug them onto the new switch? Let me know.
Thanks!
bill says:
January 14, 2011 at 6:33 pm
You cant get shocked if the amp is unplugged.
17. Naal says:
January 15, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Hey, Bill. You woulnt happen to know if this switch works on a Vox AC4, would
you? The little guy needs a standby for the sake of the tubes, and I cant seem to
find one here on the interwebs. Thanks!
-Naal
bill says:
January 18, 2011 at 8:43 pm
No idea whether it would work on an AC4. Someone who works on them
would be able to help. If it has the same toggle-type on-off switch, that would
be a start.
18. marko5702 says:
April 5, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Hey Bill just installed the stand by switch, I noticed a sight pop from the on to the
standby position and even a louder pop from standby to the off position, is this
normal?? Its quiet when flipping the switch the other way I have a cream board,
does it matter which of the two white wires go to P9 or P10? Will you be making
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I recently received this board for repair. The owner had attempted to install the green board reverb
mod and the tone stack capacitors, and realized that he wasnt hearing any bass or mids
anymore. He had removed the tone stack caps again before he sent me the board. He had
attached a weird piece of push-back wire to the cap thats half-inserted into C20 and tack-soldered
it to R40, and tack-soldered the re-routed R56 to the other side of R40. Neither tack-soldering joint
held; one broke off in shipment and the other broke when I touched it. Neither would have
survived the pounding that a combo amp gets from its speaker.
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As you can see, three out of four of the pads for the tone stack capacitors are completely gone.
This kind of damage is normally caused when youre desoldering components. The leads are bent
over onto the circuit board, and if you try to lift them while any of the solder is still adhered, the
pad comes off. If you work carefully, suck all of the solder off, and make sure the lead is not
adhered to any part of the pad, you wont have this kind of problem.
Scorching on the board and widely-spread rosin indicates that the soldering iron was either too
large or too hot or both.
This is nasty, but all is not lost.
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I cleaned the board with solvent and scraped off the excess rosin. You can see how the lower left
trace is partially torn off, too. The missing solder pad on the upper right breaks the continuity of
the thicker trace.
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The next step is to scrape around 3/8 inch of the green solder resist on the trace leading to each
missing pad. Take light passes with the edge of a hobby knife. You want to expose the copper
below, but not remove any of it.
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The next step is to tin the exposed copper. Just heat the copper enough to flow solder onto it.
Dont overheat it, or you could lift the trace.
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Put the new components into the holes. These Orange Drop tone capacitors have heavy leads.
Here you can see that I bent the lead over sharply, so that it overlaps the tinned trace. I then
heated it and applied a bit more solder, so that there was a long, smooth bond between the lead
and the trace. You can hold the lead down tightly with a jewelers screwdriver. Solder wont stick to
a chromed screwdriver.
After it cools, you can trim the unsoldered portion of the lead. Make sure you dont damage the
trace when you clip the lead.
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The upper trace that has to be connected in two directions to complete the broken circuit. This
requires a different approach. I twisted a piece of wire around the capacitor lead. This is a cutoff
from a thin resistorperfect for the task. Never depend on a bridge of solder to close a gap; always
use a patch wire.
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You can also use the loop technique to create a new solder pad. Just put a loop in the end of the
wire, then connect the tail to the scraped trace on the board. Make sure that the component is firm
against the other side of the board so that theres no possibility of play through the hole. Motion
can crack the solder joint or cause the trace to peel from the board.
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Remember the first picture? Above is the right way to attach top-of-board mods: Crimp the
components or wires so you have a strong mechanical connection before you solder.
Heres the tone stack and reverb mod, all finished up. Solder has flowed nicely on the C20
connection (also crimped first), and on the R40 connections. The Orange Drop caps are glued
together with hot melt glue to prevent vibration. Two more dots of glue hold the wire against
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vibration. Whenever you solder on the top side, always check the back side to make sure that you
havent loosened the back-of-board connection.
Were all set to button it back up.
Uh-oh, wait a minute! What the heck is this? Our modder decided to lower the too-hot bias by
replacing the 22K resistor in R31 with a 27K instead of going with adjustable bias. Good, but
tack-soldering the 27K resistor onto the cut-off leads of the old resistor is a bad idea, especially for
bias. I pulled the board again to take a look at the back sideand do the job right.
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Heating the stub caused it to desolder on the other side. This is a potential disaster waiting to
happen. Losing the bias voltage will certainly take out the output tubes and maybe destroy the
output transformer as well. Dont mod onto stubs from the top of the board!!
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It turns out that the tack soldering job wasnt so great, either. It broke while I was removing it. See
above, under potential disaster.
The solder pad and trace on the back of the board were in good shape, though. With a fresh
resistor in there, the bias will be dependableand cooler, reducing future heat damage from the
output tubes and improving the tone.
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Even arced-over, burned traces can be repaired. Damage like this can happen from a poor solder
joint at the ribbon cable or from a screen grid failure in one of the EL84s. The carbon is conductive
and it will arc again, even after youve repaired the solder joints.
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The solution was to create new solder pads for the plate and screen wires. I cut the trace leading
to the burnt area so there would be no possibility of further arcing or voltage leaks.
So the moral of the story is to do mods that are within your level of expertise. Learn how to solder
and desolder on a broken radio. Make every fix for the ages, not something that looks marginal
or is hanging on by a thread.
The ribbon cables are especially annoying to work on. If you break one connection, you have to
shorten the whole cable. Then you have to get all of the leads into the holes at the same time.
Like shortening one leg of a chair, things can go from bad to worse very quickly.
The basic mods to this board were done with a too-hot soldering iron, probably a cheapo plug-in
with no thermostatic control. All of them showed board damage; I had to remove all of them (tone
stack, presence, etc.) and start over again.
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1. sluggo42 says:
April 12, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Well, I had to take my board in to get my mistakes fixed, and get the job finished.
Got her back together and wow, sounds great!
I did have 3 bad caps (2003) so I replaced everything. I still need to set the bias,
and then it will be donefor now lol.
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Anyways, my point is that its not that easy to do all of this, and unless you really
know what youre doing with a soldering iron, I suggest just sending it in to Bill or
having a qualified person do the job. Its TOO easy to make a mistake and screw
up your CB. I contemplated attempting to mix my goofs, but figured $100 to a
qualified person was worth it. I now have $360 into my bjr, and it sounds
awesome. Thats tough to beat
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I provide the proper capacitor, with the lead already attached, plus the resistor in the green board
basic mods kit. As you can see from the photo, you simply unsolder C20, insert the free leg into
the right hole of the C20 location, and connect the other end of the lead to the right side of R40.
Then replace R56 with the provided 330K resistor, running it from the top hole to the left side of
R40. Its easiest to do this while you have the tone stack caps removed or before you replace them
with the tone stack caps provided in the green board basic mods kit.
If you want to roll your own, the 470pF cap should be a 1 kilovolt (KV) ceramic because the 1KV
caps are made to a higher quality standard that affects audio performance. Alternatively, you can
use a 470pF 250V or 500V silver mica capacitor. I supply a 1KV ceramic in the basic green board
kit.
You can use the existing 470K resistor in R56, but connected across to R40, but the new one in
the kit gives you more lead length to work with..
One More Step
If you play your BJr with the volume control at 10 and higher, you are likely to hear a high, ringing
tone that sounds like feedback when a guitar is plugged in. It is feedback, and its caused by the
poor layout of the old green circuit board, which has no ground planes or other shielding. Some of
the signal from the preamp circuitry leaks back into the amp through the input jack, and causes
the feedback.
One cure is simply to shield the jack. You can use adhesive metal foil tape (not duct tape, real
aluminum tape). Heres what the shielded jack looks like, and heres the pattern I cut out of the
foil. The fingers go on both sides of the threaded portion of the jack, and ground the foil against
the inside of the top of the chassis when you reinstall the circuit board.
When I mod green board Blues Juniors, I always replace the input jack with a Switchcraft all-metal
input jack (see kits). I bypass the feedback-prone circuit board traces entirely and wire it directly to
the preamp input resistor with shielded coaxial wire. I highly recommend the Switchcraft input jack
with all green board mods.
When you get everything back together, youll find that the reverb sounds cleaner and brighter,
and has virtually none of the previous sensitivity to hum. Turning up the Reverb control no longer
swamps the rest of the signal; you can use its full range. The Master Volume control will now vary
the amount of reverb along with the dry signal.
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1. Dieter Billinger says:
January 1, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Reverb tone/distortion suggestion:
I was thoroughly impressed by the improvements in my green board Woody Blues
Junior, but I did find that the reverb was somewhat distorted either by signal
overload or an excess of high frequencies causing harmonic distortions in the
reverb springs. I found that turning the tone down on the guitar to reduce the
highs had a dramatic effect on the cleanliness of the reverb. This lead me to
believe that the problem was probably caused by excess highs in the reverb tank
as opposed to general signal overload. It just happens to be that I didnt have a
680K resistor on hand to replace R43 however I did have a 300K and a 390k on
hand which I placed in series to get the needed value. (at least close enough for
rock, country and blues). The junction point of these two resistors was an ideal
spot to try and do some tone experimenting with the reverb. I pulled out my old
capacitance substitution box and connected it between ground the resistor junction
to see if a suitable capacitance will clean up the reverb distortion. Indeed this
proved to be very worthwhile. I found that placing a 2.2 nf cap between the
resistor junction and ground provided a remarkable clean up of the reverb signal
without a substantial loss to the reverb signal.
TP says:
December 11, 2010 at 9:02 am
Thats a good suggestion. I always found the reverb of the BJr too shrill with
too much treble . I tried a 1,5nF across R38 (cream board) to drive the reverb
with a little less high frequencies, but what I found to be even more effective:
a 2,2nF cap across the reverb poti smooths out the reverb signal itself and
sounds more pleasing to my ears. Anyway I left the bypass cap C23 in the
circuit, would be probably even more effect to cut that out too.
BTW: I have a Limited Edition BJr with the wooden sunburst enclosure from
2003, and I had to change also all power supply filter caps. Two of them
leaked and shorted the supply voltage after a while.
Many thanks to you, Bill for your passion and sharing so much usefull
information about this nice little amp
2. Matthias Huth (Leipzig) says:
February 3, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Hi Bill, Ive done the reverb kit in my 91 green board Blues Junior. I dont changed
eitehr the capacitor nor the resistor. So the hum and noise is gone and all is in
function. Only in case I turn the volume to 12 the reverb will missed a bit. May be
if I would use a 330K resistor instead of the 470 K (R56) the result will be better.
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bill says:
October 30, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Unplug the black wire a the tank and short the center pin to the shell tabs
with some thin, bare wire.
9. Colins says:
November 2, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Hi
Just came across this page looking for information on my BJ III reverb feedback
and It kinda sounds like the same thing, feedback/distortion when the reverb is set
around 10 and above. It just seems to happen when I hit a couple high strings
together. Is there anything similar I can do to the BJ III to quiet it down cuz its
kinda ugly.
Thanks for any help!
Colin
bill says:
November 2, 2011 at 4:44 pm
You may just have a saggy spring in your reverb tank. Try isolating the tank
with some heavy cloth. If that helps, you may want to get a reverb bag. Or it
may make more sense to have the dealer replace the tank.
10. tim2b98 says:
March 24, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Hi, Just recieved the Basic kit that came with a few extra parts that the instructions
did not mention. I found this page and now I know what the 470pf cap and resistor
(I recieved a 430k) are for. But I still dont know what the blue 100pf cap is for?
Tim
bill says:
March 24, 2012 at 4:26 pm
On the green board, the 100pF cap goes across the leads of R19 if youre
experiencing phase inverter oscillation.
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chassis. Unkink the power transformer wires so that they dont resist. Keep wiggling and pressing
and sliding, making sure that youre not stressing any wires. When the shafts clear the chassis,
bend it out gently, lifting the lower edge of the circuit board, until it is nearly at right angles to the
chassis. This will give you full access to the back of the board.
Dont pull on the big filter capacitor. Put pressure on the empty quick-connect stakes at the left
edge of the board, instead.
This is what your circuit board should look like in working position. You have full access to the
back of the board. and can operate the amp in this position after you replace the red, brown, and
blue output transformer wires.
For access to the component side of the board, its easier and less wear and tear to lay the amp
down on a soft cloth or carpet than to continually bend and flex the wires.
The printed circuit traces are fragile! When you solder/unsolder, keep the heat on the component
lead. Use a temperature-controlled iron. Too much heat on the board can cause the copper trace
to lift and curl.
The unsuccessful mods that come to me for repair almost always have burns on the circuit
board from a too-hot iron. You CANNOT use a crappy little plug-in iron with no thermostatic
control! And definitely not a soldering gun!
See my mistakes page for examples of how not to do it. (I havent moved this page to the new site
yet.)
If you have difficulty, its likely to be when you unsolder the tone stack capacitors. The bent-over
leads can be difficult to straighten without damaging the printed circuit. The traces and solder
pads on the back of the board are rather small and
Instead, clip the capacitors from the other side and use a solder sucker to lift the solder and
the stub of the lead. Do not try to salvage the old parts by removing them intact! Its far more
likely that you will destroy the traces on your board. Flush cutters are a better choice than
standard diagonal pliers. The picture shows the cream board tone caps, but the same technique
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After youve clipped the caps, youll see that even with flush cutters, the upward force on the lead
has caused a dimple in the solder. Its best to remove the solder and the lead stub with a solder
sucker, as shown here. Youll have a clean hole with no damage.
When its time to button everything up, reverse the above procedures. When you get the circuit
board back into the chassis, twist the green, red, and brown wire pairs together to reduce the
possibility of hum. Secure them with wire ties. Dress the wires so they arch over the circuit board
and back down.
Very Important!
The plastic jacks for the input and FAT switch are fragile. Any attempt to tighten them snugly will
strip the threads. Just bring them up to the point where the nut stops turning by hand, then give
them a little bit more with the wrench. Be gentle.
If youve loosened the screws on the sides of the amp, dont forget to retighten them.
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1. Paul says:
February 11, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Bill,
If I were to get a temp adjustable iron, what temp should it be set at?
bill says:
February 14, 2009 at 11:52 pm
I set mine at 650 F
2. Peter says:
March 26, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Bill,
just seeking some further clarification on discharge of the capacitors before I
commence work on the amp.
You say above: 2. Discharge the power supply capacitors. Theyre the four large
gray and black tubular objects. Actually, if you turn the amp off while the tubes are
warm, it will self-discharge in 20 seconds or so. Once youve turned it off, dont
turn it back on.
By the bit about if you turn the amp off while the tubes are warm do you mean:
1. You switch the amp off at the on-off switch on the amp itself when the tubes are
HOT, or
2. You firstly do as in 1 above, but then let the tubes cool down to warm, and at
that point THEN switch the mains power off, or
3. Something else I havent covered.
Sorry to labor the point, but where electricity is concerned.
bill says:
March 27, 2009 at 12:57 pm
If the tubes are hot enough to play through and make a sound, the amp will
self-discharge in 20 seconds or so when you turn it off. Running a jumper
from ground to the + side of any of the big gray tubular capacitors is just for
insurance.
3. Steven says:
March 31, 2009 at 12:49 am
Will a solderiong iron at 770 be too much heat to do the twin stack mod?
bill says:
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and recommend the Clean Boost module for more output tube drive tone.
The presence control is an option if you want more bite and cutting tone at
the same volume.
11. Graham says:
March 23, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Bill,
I have just done a series of the mods and it sounds great. Just a few things that I
would like to ask you please, ..
First, when putting the circuit board back in the chassis, I am finding that the
shafts of the pots are not centered in the chassis holes. This is leading to a stiff
spot on the various pots when they are turned. To reduce this I removed a screw
that holds the circuit board down, so that it allows the board to move slightly
allowing the shafts to turn more freely. It almost looks like there should be a
washer behind the black spacers that the screws go through, so that the circuit
board would stand away from the chassis. This would work but it would be a
nightmare to try and re-fit the circuit board with washers, and I am thinking that if
they were not there originally then they should not be there now.
Have you seen this before, and have you any ideas as what I have done wrong?
Secondly, when you remove an original master volume pot, are you able to
remove the solder on all of the connections allowing the old pot to come away
easily? When I removed the master volume pot I found that I had to cut the
original pot away from the circuit board and treat each of the points of solder like
individual connections. Only then could I get the solder sucker to free the original
points soldered to the board. Is this normal, or is my technique not up to scratch?
I want to replace the plastic input socket but only if I have the capability.
Thirdly, the shaft of the new master volume pot is very short and the knob that fits
onto it is only just on the shaft. Is this normal?
Finally, I have seen a solder sucker on Ebay that incorporates a heat source so it
melts the solder then sucks up in the same unit. Are these any good?
Thanks in advance.
Graham
bill says:
March 29, 2010 at 8:19 am
Its possible that the plastic standoffs got a bit crushed from tightening the
circuit board, which could cause the misalignment with the front panel. I
actually like a little friction on the knobsit prevents them from moving too
easily if I brush one while adjusting another.
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easily by desoldering the three terminals after desoldering the two snap-ins
and bending them slightly away from the edges of their holes.
I dont recommend the heated desoldering tools, at least not the AC-powered
inexpensive ones with the squeeze bulb. They get very hot and can lift a trace
very easily. You would need a dimmer to control the power and a lot of trial
and error to get the right setting. This type of desolderer is best suited for
circuit boards with through-hole plating. The Blues Junior circuit board is
single-sided, with no plating. So all of the solder is right on the surface. The
spring plunger-style solder sucker is best.
12. AL says:
April 10, 2010 at 2:49 am
Hey there, just ordered all of your mods.. 1st question I have is about the LINE
OUT mod.. Is it just there when you want to use it without interfering with amp
operation, also.. is it a balanced output? My other question is if you knew were I
could get a clear crystal for the LED indicator instead of that red one.. I really want
a blue light!
Thanks for your time
bill says:
April 10, 2010 at 9:04 am
The line out is not balanced. Its the speaker signal attenuated down to line
level. It does not cut off the speaker, doesnt affect the amp in any other way.
I have not found a source for a clear lens (or any other color) that would fit
the BJr LED.
AL says:
April 10, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Ok well that still sounds awesome, I want to go out from my BJ to my
tube-preamps and record like that.. Have you any experience doing this?
How did it sound? What if I went with a whole new fixture that would fit
the stock hole where the LED was.. Do you know what size this hole is? I
was thinking about doing some hunting.. Thanks Bill!
Gheorghe says:
April 15, 2010 at 5:44 pm
This may sound like a silly question, but is the lineout dependent on the
master knob, so, more speaker volume = more line out volume, or is it a
flat, unchangeable volume dependent on the recording devices
intake/input level?
Also, what does balanced mean when referring to the lineout?
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The line out is the same signal that goes to the speaker, but it is
reduced through some resistors so that it is low enough for
recording equipment or a PA amp. Any change that you can hear
through the speaker, tone or loudness, goes to the line out also.
Balanced signals are the kind that use an XLR jack, with 3 prongs.
Balanced signals cancel out noise and hum and can go a long
wayhundreds of feet. Unbalanced signals are like your guitar
cablea center conductor and a shield. Despite the shield,
unbalanced signals are prone to noise and should only be used for
short runs.
Matt says:
April 18, 2010 at 1:19 am
A 10mm LED w/holder fits with little modification (if youre here looking
at mods..most likely your warranty is already void anyways
). The
LED output from the Blues Jr is about 2.7v and runs a 3v led just fine. I
have a very bright blue LED in minelooks awesome.
jack says:
July 26, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Matt, wher can one acquire the neccessary items to do the blue led
mod like yours? Would like to do the pjr also.Thanks
jack says:
July 28, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Found it ! Pedalpartsplus.com 5mm LED and Holder
13. AL says:
April 10, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Ya, found nothing
14. Pete says:
April 22, 2010 at 9:55 am
Hi Bill,
I just purchased you basic kit for my BJ, I am wondering is there anywhere I can
find images of how to do these mod, kinda a step by step. The amp is sounding
great the the moment. I put a Greenback in there and some Harma Cryo Retro
valves in the preamp, based on the Mullards, really sweet tone and woody at the
same time.I have a pair of JJs in the power section and want to wait until I can
adjust the bias before using the Retro Mullard 84 s. Your site is fantastic btw, really
learned a lot from it. Sure let me know about step by step, if there is one. Best
wishes
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bill says:
April 24, 2010 at 8:40 pm
The mod kits come with photo instructions. They should provide enough
guidance if you have decent mechanical/soldering skills. If youre a novice,
you should get help from someone with the tools and experience.
15. Abi says:
April 22, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Hey Bill,
I was wondering if Id be able to disconnect the internal speaker on my blues jr
(green board, made in the USA) and hook up the amp via speaker cable to my
Avatar 212 cabinet. I was just curious to know if that would cause any problems.
The cabinet is 8 ohms. Thanks a lot.
Abi
bill says:
April 24, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Yes, that will work very well.
16. Ken Zuercher says:
May 3, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Bill, thanks for having this site and offering your mod kits. I was repairing a recent
Blues Junior for a student of mine when I noticed the cheeseball pots in the amp.
His had a cracked midrange pot that I replaced with a real pot. I have a Blues
Deluxe (not a reissue) that has real pots although I had to replace the input jacks
with Switchcraft jacks. Also i had to resolder every joint on the two circuit boards.
Now it is finally reliable. The tonestack cap change that you suggest (.1 and .015)
did the trick on the Blues Junior. Much cheaper than a Jenson Alnico Speaker.
bill says:
May 4, 2010 at 7:38 am
Now try the new coupling caps! Its even better. If the knobs are mounted
correctly, the stock pots (admittedly cheesy) will last a long time.
17. Luke says:
August 20, 2010 at 6:07 am
Hi Bill,
You reccomend 60/40 solder, but in the UK most places only sell lead free
(Sn99.3% Cu0.7%) which has a higher melting point (227 degrees celcius instead
of the 188C of 60/40) Ive been using this fine for general soldering, but would it
be suitable for doing your general mods, or do I need to seek out some leaded
solder (my dad may have some)?
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Luke
bill says:
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If only lead-free solders are available, tin-copper is probably best for an
amplifier. Tin-lead is very malleable and absorbs vibration well. Tin-copper
has a higher melting point than tin-silver or tin-silver-copper, but its less
likely to crack. Work carefully, because the higher heat is more likely to
loosen the copper traces.
18. Joe C says:
August 21, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Im a complete noob!
I bought most of the mods, I bought the Hakko soldering iron station (big +), I
followed the instructions, emailed Bill a couple of times (poor billm!), got quick
answers, listened to the advice and now my BJr sounds freaking incredible! I have
soldered before, but the difference using a temp controlled soldering iron is huge.
Never even came close to overheating anything! (My biggest fear!)
My mods to a 2006(?) BJr:
Cream Board Basic Kit
Presence control
Switchcraft input jack
Audio-taper master volume control
Audio-taper reverb control
Clean Boost module
Stereo footswitch jack
22 Watt Heyboer
Recap Kit
Standby switch (I love this option!)
Aux speaker jack
Line out jack (not used, but I keep dreaming!)
Also added the Cannabis Rex speaker
Ruby reverb tank with a tank bag
I typically play with a Celestion G12 Century ext cab. this combo sounds absolutely
awesome!
I cant begin to tell you how nervous I was going into this mod, but fear not, it was
fairly straight forward and relatively easy! The big bonus is not only being able to
adjust your own bias when switching tubes, but understanding why you adjust
your bias!
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Hey bill, Im just finishing up the mods, with a standby switch and I didnt write
down where the black wire from the power transformer goes I think its p4 on the
cream board? can you verify this for me before i plug it in
bill says:
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Yep P4. Just like it says on the schematic: http://www.fender.com/support
/amp_schematics/pdfs/Blues_Junior_Schematic.pdf
20. Rick says:
November 8, 2010 at 1:40 am
Great new video Bill ! Ive summoned up the courage to do the TO22 tranny,
Presence control & speaker jack mods myself. You just made my life a lot easier,
thanks. Rick
21. daven52 says:
January 21, 2011 at 10:26 am
Great site helped me a lot with a Blues Junior Ltd Edition 2003 it had a broken bass
pot. Is there some reason that the lock washers are on the inside of the jack
board?
Thanks
Dave
bill says:
January 24, 2011 at 9:21 am
The lock washer will work on the inside or the outside of the chassis. They act
as a spring to provide constant pressure on the threads, which increases the
friction and prevents loosening. They dont have to dig into the nut and
chassis to prevent rotationthere isnt enough stress there. Fender puts them
on the inside, probably for cleaner appearance.
22. JohnnyCNote says:
February 26, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Would the Weller BP860MP Pro Series Battery Powered Soldering Iron be suitable
for working on a Blues Jr. circuit board? Thanks . . .
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3086615&
filterName=Type&numProdsPerPage=60&filterValue=Soldering%26amp%3Bamp
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bill says:
February 26, 2011 at 9:28 pm
A thermostatically controlled iron that maintains a constant temperature
would be far better for printed circuit board work. Waiting 15 seconds for it to
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heat to 850F is a pain and 850F is too hot. I use 650-675. If you really
cant afford a decent tool, the Radio Shack dual-heat iron on low (20W) might
be OK. Cheap irons have large, clunky handpieces, however, and are not that
easy to use.
23. jdeall says:
June 19, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Bill,
Great instructions, just finished the basic cream board mod & standby switch love
it. The whole this only took 1.5 hrs. Funny story got done buttoned up really bad
hum, realized I forgot to put the ground back.
I play harp through this amp any harp centric suggestions for more tone, or gritty
sound. Suggestions for speakers related to harp?
Thanks Jerry
bill says:
June 20, 2011 at 10:13 pm
If you like grind, a quick and dirty way to get more grind is to use a 12DW7 in
V3, the phase inverter (next to the output tubes). Also known as an ECC832,
it has unequal gain in the two sections and drives the output tubes at different
levels, which causes distortion at lower volume levels.
Harp players tend to favor lighter-coned speakers that break up easily.
Something like a Weber 12A125 or 12F125 is probably a good choice for
brighter harp tones. The Celestion Greenback and G12H are probably good
choices, too.
24. Marc2 says:
September 14, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Hi Bill,
Love the mods, and cant thank you enough for making them!
I have two Blues Jrs I have modded over the years, and they have been awesome,
thanks to you. My main one has begun to make some awful noises. When it starts
up, it makes a terrible loud hum, and will then crackle intermittently. I would
attribute this to filter caps, but it seems that they should not be old enough to be
failing just yet. At any rate, I guess what I am asking is, I need to bring this to a
repair guy, and I am curious if there is anything I need to inform him of (other
than the obvious, that it is not a stock Blues Jr.). I am also curious if you have any
recommendations for repair guys in Massachusetts. While I am comfortable
modding, troubleshooting is a bit over my head.
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Hum and crackling is usually tubes. If you have a spare set of EL84s, I would
pop them in, or use the tubes from your other amp. Preamp tubes can cause
hum too, but crackling is less likely.
25. Ravenant211 says:
November 30, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Hi Bill,
Just ordered several of your excellent mod kits for my cream board Blues Jr. Series
II. I am also going to need to replace the tubes sockets and wondered if you had
any opinion on the best company or model to choose for this? Im not upgrading to
the 6V6 tubes, keeping the EL84 type. Also wondering if you had any advice for
parts that would benefit from replacement outside of the mods you make, things
like capacitors or anything that doesnt fall into your mod kits? I ordered the low
profile power transformer, basic kit, sparkle and presence boost, caps replacement
and input and standby switch upgrades if that will help you think of what else
might be worth replacement. Really glad I found your site, looking forward to
getting the kits!
bill says:
December 4, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Why do you need to change the sockets? The springs do get weak in the
output tube sockets, but they can be tightened easily enough. Ceramic
sockets are cool and all, but theyre also sealed, so if the springs get weak,
theres no way to bend them back for a good grip.
Ive tried changing just about everything in the Blues Junior. The kits cover
everything that has a noticeable effect.
Ravenant211 says:
December 6, 2011 at 4:18 am
Thanks for the heads up Bill, good to know I dont have to worry about
anything other than what your kits include makes it easy
I was intending to change the sockets because they are so loose. I just
bought the amp about 2 months ago and the tubes always look/feel like
they are going to fall out. I have a larger tube amp and the sockets hold
the tubes so much tighter than the ones in my Blues Jr. With the Jr.
being so new, I thought that maybe the sockets are just bad or low
quality and wanted to avoid any trouble from them later like arcing or
other issues with the tubes getting knocked around. If you feel that a
good tightening of the springs would be sufficient to deal with possible
issues, I will gladly bow to superior experience. Just wanted to deal with
any weak links while Im in there taking care of the rest. So should I
leave the stock sockets then and just follow your re-tention and
re-solder guide to for a complete fix? Thanks for the response!
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grips the tank firmly and provides a solid base to hold it upright. Before you drill,
center-punch the crosshairs to keep your drill from wandering:
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A Switchcraft 11A mono jack or equivalent goes into the hole. Bend the solder tabs in
for more clearance and position the contact arm diagonally so that it clears everything
and doesnt touch the tank.
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Reinstall the tank. When you need reverb switching, plug a guitar cord and an on/off
latching footswitch into the new jack. When the switch is closed, it grounds the output
signal from the tank and silences the reverb.
Keep the cord as short as possible to avoid picking up hum.
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1. SCWhitmore says:
April 9, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Hi Bill, I would like to do this mod, but can you please clear up the guitarchord and
on/off latching switch. All I need is a single button foot switch like the one I have
for the Fat switch right?
Thanks,
Shawn Whitmore
bill says:
April 9, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Right. Just a single-button latching switch. Shielded cord.
2. SCWhitmore says:
April 9, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Thanks Bill, I realy enjoy your site. Gave me courage and confidence to do my own
work on my amp. I also did the Twin stack mod. I did notice a difference. I look
forword to doing more of you mods. Thanks Again. Shawn Whitmore
3. skatevato422 says:
June 25, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Very easy to do and alot of fun, I used a live wire footswitch and it works fine.
Next on the list is the bypass switch and a speaker change, Thanks Billm audio
4. Vintage64 says:
November 12, 2011 at 5:25 am
Ive done this mod on a 2011 Limited Edition Tweed Blues Junior and it works
great. There are however slight differences in this models reverb tank. The input
and output sockets have changed from the style pictured above to a white plastic
type and the wiring has changed. I originally soldered to the BLACK wire on the
OUTPUT socket tab of the tank (as described above) but it did not work (No fault
of Bills of course). On closer inspection I noticed that all the wiring colours were
reversed. That is the centre pin tabs on both the INPUT and OUTPUT were wired
throughout with BLUE wire and BLACK wire was used for the outer contacts. As the
new plastic sockets are moulded with the tabs built in, it can be difficult to see at
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the inside of the tank to locate the pressure plate that contacts the centre pin.
Obviously this is the right tab to solder to regardless of the wire colour. After
swapping to this tab that was connected to the BLUE wire on my tank it worked
fine. Im not sure if this wiring colour code is for the new models or if mine was
just built on a Friday afternoon? Hope that helps anyone having the same problem.
Thanks again Bill for great kits and mods.
5. skatevato422 says:
November 26, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Will the reverb footswitch mod work on the the reverb tank on a hot rod deville?
bill says:
November 28, 2011 at 11:07 am
Yes, you can do this on any Accutronics-style tank.
6. rayosytruenos says:
February 24, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Hello, Bill!
Ive been looking for something like this for my Fender Supersonic 60 for a long
time. Thank you very much for the idea. Ill try it as soon as possible.
I will try not to drill the reverb tank. Let my explain: In the photo number 5, I can
see a hole in the tank next to the contact arm. Maybe I could send a cable
through a hole like that, make the connections inside, and then add a female cable
plug to the cable outside the tank. When I want to use the mod, Id connect the
footswitch to the female jack with a guitar cable.
I think it would work the same. Am I right????? Am I missing anything? Maybe a
lot of hum or something?
I dont have a machine to drill the hole, thats why Im planning to do this. What do
you think?
Thank you very much for the idea and for your time!
And please, excuse my bad english.
Very nice webpage!
bill says:
February 25, 2012 at 10:12 am
Yes, you can just run a wire into the reverb tank and it will do the same thing.
You should use shielded guitar cable or you will get hum.
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1. Nuno says:
April 19, 2012 at 8:30 am
Hello Bill,
Just bought the basic Mod kit (cream board), and have one doubt, should I
remove the amp stage valves to set the bias?
Thanks
Kindest Regards
Nuno
bill says:
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1. aes87 says:
August 27, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Hey Bill- Thanks for posting so much info here- not only can I mod my amp, but I
(as an EE) gain some understanding as to what Im doing. Question on this oneIf I would like to add this mod for a pre-series 3 green board BJ, would I get there
by pulling the C9 voicing cap? While I like the stock high end pretty well, Ive
played on a series 3 and occasionally would enjoy making my older edition sound
as hot.
Thanks!
~aes
bill says:
August 31, 2011 at 7:17 am
The un-sparkle voicing cap on the green board is C35.
2. yan says:
September 5, 2011 at 8:05 am
Hi Bill,
I can see this amp has both presence and sparkle mods.
I dont know how to mod my amp. I want to cut high frequencies harshness.
apart from the schematic difference between these two mods that I am able to
figure out would you say that presence mod is better for Jazz players and
de-sparkle mod (on series II) is better for Blues or Rock players that use more
preamp gain and FAT switch on.
cant wait for de-sparkle recordings
bill says:
September 5, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I think the presence control is probably best for jazz tone on a series II Blues
Junior. But the basic mods will do much more for your tone, to round it out
and give it fullness.
3. eddie_bowers says:
October 12, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I just ordered this mod. I already have the presence control.
I know you said they work well together, but im curious about what to expect.
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My assumption is that the sparkle control will impact higher frequencies than the
presence control so you could increase the highs with this control and pull back the
high mids with the presence control if desired.
Is this correct?
I find that most of the character in a guitars tone is in this high mids to high area,
so Im hoping for finer control.
bill says:
October 13, 2011 at 12:55 pm
The sparkle control does start at the highest frequencies, but its a classic
tweed tone control. It rolls off highs at a -3dB per octave slope until you get
to about open E, below which its action cant be heard. The presence control
affects highs too, but its more about the attack of the notes, not the
frequency. The presence control can both exaggerate or soften the attack, the
leading edge of the note.
4. Billatl says:
November 11, 2011 at 7:36 pm
The mod was definitely worth doing on my series II 30Watt Blues Junior with
C-Rex & Ruby tank. Its really my wifes amp, and she heard the difference even
better than I did. I lost hearing the highs years ago. She intends to make good use
of it.
5. SamZ says:
January 16, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Hi Bill With this mod on the Series II cream board, will pulling out the knob make
it sound like a stock series II or a series III amp? in other words, does this mod
require removing the C9 capacitor on the series II cream board?
bill says:
January 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Its bright like the Series III when you pull up on the switch.
6. SamZ says:
January 19, 2012 at 12:25 am
Thanks Bill I just ordered this sparkle control and a few other mods. Can you tell
approximately what position the knob should be at to be at the stock Series II? I
got this mod so I can darken my amp in certain situations. Using the bridge
pickup, I find it too ice picky, and I roll off the tone control on my guitar to
compensate. The fact that I can get it as bright as a Series III makes me a little
nervous, but I just have to make sure not to go there
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The Billm presence control is mounted on the faceplate, just below the Fat switch. It fits nicely
here and doesnt interfere with other controls. All Billm presence controls now have a pull-up
switch. On amplifiers where the Clean Boost is installed, the pull-up switch turns on the Clean
Boost.
The knob is the correct style to blend with the chickenhead knobs, but I was unable to find a
suitably classic style with a line or an indicator dot. So I buy them in bulk and mill a flat-bottomed
hole in each one and put in a drop of white paint. I made an angled shaft jig for the milling
machine so the bit wouldnt skitter off the curve on the top of the knob.
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Heres how the Blues Junior handles a square wave (all frequencies in the audio range at once),
with no presence control. This is pretty good performance for a guitar amplifier. The rise time (left
side of the line indicates how it handles high frequencies.
Heres what happens when you crank the presence control all the way. It exaggerates the
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When you roll the presence control all the way back it softens treble response and causes the
amp to undershoot. The tone is very mellow and controlled, with no edge to the notes.
With all three tone controls all the way up, the red line shows the frequency response. Its actually
fairly linear for a guitar amp, with a little scoop at 500 Hz and a little bump at 2.5K Hz. The blue
line is the additional boost you get from the presence control.
You can hear the additional loudness in the 1KHz to 4KHz range in the form of cutting power. 5 or
6dB makes a noticeable difference.
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1. robert says:
March 4, 2009 at 8:56 pm
This is great mod if youre a jazz player. Turning the presence way down gives you
that dark Wes sound without killing your treble response. Highly recommended.
job ian says:
April 12, 2010 at 6:24 am
in my own observations.. and conclusion.. presence knob sharpens and
smoothens your sound.. and it adds the scratchy sound ..
bill says:
April 12, 2010 at 9:57 pm
If theres a scratchy sound, theres a problem with the control or the
wiring. It should work silently if all is well.
2. Mark S. says:
July 14, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Id like to add my two cents regarding this mod. My BJr is used for everything from
Jazz to Country to Blues to Rock and the presence control has been a wonderful
way to broaden the amps versatility. When Bill suggested this mod I wasnt sure
that it was going to be worthwhile but one listen later I became a believer.
mark says:
October 27, 2009 at 11:59 pm
can you still get the same stock bjr sound once the presence is installed?
bill says:
October 28, 2009 at 7:21 am
Yes. The presence control makes one of the resistors in the negative
feedback circuit variable. When the knob is set at around 1:00 or 2:00,
its the stock amount of resistance. So you can vary the presence higher
or lower.
3. mike says:
November 2, 2009 at 7:35 pm
hi bill..is this presence control working on the same principle as on the blues
deluxe/deville or is it a more like an attack control on say the boss compressor
sustainer?
bill says:
November 2, 2009 at 8:44 pm
It works the same way as the presence control in the HRDeluxe/Deville. But
as you can see from the scope photos, you hear it in the highs and feel it in
the attack.
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4. Miketoo says:
January 25, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Bill,
I have the presence control on my BJ that you did the work on, would the same
presence work on the Pro Junior? Or maybe a switchable tone stack bypass for the
PJ?
Thanks,
Mike(too)
bill says:
January 25, 2010 at 11:19 pm
The negative feedback loop (where the presence works) is different on the PJ.
It would have to be engineered for proper performance. But the simplest
thing would be to replace R27 with a 100K pot so you can go from stock to no
NFB.
You could do a tone lift for the PJ, but since its a tweed-style tone control,
you wouldnt get the big volume boost that you do on a blackface-style stack.
And if you play at high volume, the tone control is essentially out of the circuit
anyway. The higher you go, the less effect it has.
5. Lance says:
January 29, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Can the reverb knob be used in place for a new presence control.
I dont use reverb.
bill says:
January 29, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Its the wrong value for a presence control, but you could switch to a lowerresistance pot. Youd have to cut traces and run wire to the reverb control,
but theres no reason why it wouldnt work.
6. Mike says:
March 27, 2010 at 11:55 pm
hi Bill, is the presence control mod a difficult mod or one of the easier ones?
bill says:
March 29, 2010 at 8:07 am
If you can drill a clean hole in the faceplate, its pretty easy, just two wires to
solder. But if you have doubts about the drilling, dont do it.
7. John says:
May 9, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Just did this mod. I play mostly jazz (Eastman AR803CE-15D). This rig used to
start to boom a little right around 200Hz, which is where acoustic feedback first
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kicks in. I have found that turning the presence control all the way down (less
feedback) improves the tone a lot and makes the rig much less prone to do this.
The clean boost more than compensates for any loss in volume while keeping the
tone clean.
8. Mark says:
May 12, 2010 at 7:43 pm
I added the presence control mod, the main mod package and the master vol
tapered pot..
My amp went from a box-like tonality to singing.. I think this is the best bang for
the buck if you have a BluesJr (cream board) I have experienced. I actually am
considering purchasing more mods but I am not sure if I can get my amp to
sound better.. it sounds pretty damn good.
I have a few Marshalls, a Randall, Gibson and a vintage Deluxe .. I prefer my
BluesJr with the mods now to all of them the little amp sings.
9. DaveG says:
June 11, 2010 at 8:15 am
I finally got this one installed. Everything went well, but I find that the control
really only has an effect at the very end of its range. While it does seem to get very
bright and crisp at the far end, Im not really hearing any sort of jazzy muffled tone
at the other end. Is this pretty much the expected behavior?
thanks!
bill says:
June 14, 2010 at 12:03 pm
It should darken the tone as well, but the treble control can override it.
10. Eric says:
June 26, 2010 at 11:30 am
I recently installed basic mod kit, recap kit, T020 trans, twinstack mod, input jack,
& presence control. Am extremely impressed & happy with the improvement in
sound and sensitivity, but am experiencing same effect as DaveG regarding
presence control, from 7 o-clock to 3 o-clock no difference in tone whatsoever,
presence kicks in only from 3 to 5 o-clock. Have tried every variation of treble,
mid, & bass constrols with no difference in presence control response. What think?
bill says:
June 27, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Im hoping to find a different taper for the control. Im researching options.
11. Robert M says:
June 29, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I got the basic mod kit and presence control kit today and installed it. basic mod
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kit was good but the presence control is kind of a dissapointment for me. I
experience the same problem as Eric and DaveG: nothing happens in sound from 7
o-clock until 3. Its more of a three way switch 1.(7 to 3 o-clock) nothing 2.(3 to 4
o-clock) little more presence 3.(5 o-clock) Too much presence.
I have read about good jazz sound on this site and some great feedback on the
presence control. Thats why Im dissapointed.
I measured the resistance on the pot and found 2.4 ohm when pot is in highest
level (5 o-clock). When I turn the knob down the resistance seems to go zero all
the way down to 7 o-clock.
Is it broken?
What is the small resistor soldered on the pot?
I really hope there is a solution for this.
BR Robert
bill says:
June 30, 2010 at 9:36 pm
The presence control with the switch is only available in 10K and 50K values.
25K linear would be ideal. The resistor reduces the value of the 50K pot to
about 25K but it also makes it nonlinear. All of the tones are available, but
they get compressed. Perhaps Ill switch back to 10K.
Robert M says:
July 1, 2010 at 12:24 am
Thank you Bill for the answer. What do you think is the reason some
people experience different behaviour? Do we have different versions of
the pot?
bill says:
July 2, 2010 at 10:41 pm
There are both 10K and 50K (with the resistor that reduces it to
25K) versions out there. Some people find the 50K to work well,
others dont. Im switching back to the 10K.
dennis sipe says:
August 9, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Bill,
I have standby switch mod, and the basic mods for my sons
cream BJ. Also did twin reverb mod. Im going to get the clean
boost and a new volume knob and new capacitors. I have two
questions: Do you like the dryer sound of a cream board with
the extra headroom mod and do you think it is a bad idea to
use only a stereo foot switch to engage and disengage the
clean boost. Im kind of lost in the thread about the pot
variations on the prescience knob. Is the prescience control
working for most people just fine?
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bill says:
August 28, 2010 at 9:45 am
The vast majority of the resistors on the Blues Junior are 1/4
watt. The plate resistors are 1/2 wattslightly larger and fatter.
Compare your resistor to the ones on the board. Most pedals
use 1/4 watt and 1/8 watt resistors.
12. captainbackfire says:
October 23, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Hi Bill,
I have a new NOS and will do your mods soon. I have a serious idea though with
this particular prescence mod. Can I possibly make the mod without drilling
anywhere on the amp? Basically I want a lively tone just like the bright jangly
characteristic of the Vibro King so maybe I can set it permanently on the max
prescence setting and just use the treble control. Tell me what you think. Thanks
alot!
bill says:
October 23, 2011 at 6:57 pm
You could replace the resistor that sets the presence tone with a trimpot.
Youd have to take the back off the amp to adjust it, of course.
klutz says:
February 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Great stuff, Bill!
Do you have the instructions for making this an internal mod, trimpot,
etc?
Im making a sleeper, (the clean-boost is on the footswitch) and I
usually leave the presence @ 9 (80%).
bill says:
February 9, 2012 at 8:33 am
You could mount a 10K pot inside the amp. Youll just need to find a
way to secure it so it wont rattle. Or use the same technique as the
Pro Junior bias trimpot:
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13. racktones says:
November 23, 2011 at 8:54 am
HI Bill,
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I dont use the Fat switch on the control panel, I only use it via footpedal. Is it
possible to remove that switch and put the presence knob more or less in its
place? save cluttering my faceplate.
bill says:
November 23, 2011 at 3:19 pm
No. Its too close to the circuit board. The pot will not fit in that space.
racktones says:
November 25, 2011 at 10:25 am
How about taking out the on light, and putting it there? I dont really
need the light, Id prefer a cleaner faceplate. And if so, is it then possible
for me to use a bigger knob?
bill says:
November 25, 2011 at 11:00 am
Maybe you should just skip the presence control.
racktones says:
December 4, 2011 at 12:52 am
Heh heh, sorry. Ill just do it as prescribed.
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1. catscratch says:
September 25, 2011 at 12:22 am
Hi Bill
What affect does the high voltage preamp mod have when used in conjunction with
the new power transformer and is it necessary (cream board version III)?
Thanks and regards
bill says:
September 25, 2011 at 12:11 pm
I have the TP24 and the TO26 installed with 6L6s in a Series II, along with the
high-voltage preamp. The brightness is much like a Deluxe Reverb, but when
you turn up the volume, theres still plenty of grind. If you like headroom, go
with the high voltage preamp mod.
Eric Bernhardt says:
October 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Will the new power transformer increase all the voltages? Im looking for
maximized non-detrimental voltage levels. Even though I installed the
high voltage preamp kit, I wouldnt mind some more volts so I can get
even closer to Blackface territory.
bill says:
October 10, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Yes, the new PT increases all plate voltages power and preamp.
Theres noticeably more clean headroom.
Eric Bernhardt says:
October 10, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Grand! I measure the B+ currently at 324 volts. How much can
I expect with this new transformer? Im sure 415 is asking too
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much but even higher 300 s will please me. Thanks Bill. My amp
is getting more fierce with every mod.
bill says:
October 11, 2011 at 7:45 am
415V is not only asking too much, it is too much! The coupling
caps in the Blues Junior are rated at 400V, so you want to keep
it under that. Depending on the line voltage, youll see
355-365V on the B+.
2. catscratch says:
September 25, 2011 at 12:28 am
I just noticed that this transformer is only available in 120v format.. Any plans for a
220-240v model?
bill says:
September 25, 2011 at 8:26 am
No, sorry.
Dual-voltage makes it even bigger and 50Hz introduces heat issues.
3. Richard Wetzel says:
September 25, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Hi Bill,
I have many of the mods done including the T020 output transformer. I have not
done
an octal conversion and not sure if I will. My Blues Jr is a green board and Im
curious
what changes/ improvements I would expect with the PT upgrade, including
estimated wattage increase.
Thanks! Richard
bill says:
September 25, 2011 at 2:52 pm
As the chart shows, you only get a few more watts with the TP24. But the
headroom increases and you get a bit more depth and slightly brighter tone.
The EL84s are the limiting factor.
4. Phil Connolly says:
September 26, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Do you have any plans to post some sound clips? I.e., perhaps various before and
after combinations: TP24 with EL84s, with 6V6s, with 5881s. And a clip of the TP24
+ TO26 + 6L6s. How does that combination line up to the HRD?
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max volume
-Option 2: mike the amp to add more DB (sounds like would still need clean boost)
-Option 3: Add an extension speaker (mod) to add more DB (sounds like would still
need clean boost)
-Option 4: do this 30W mod (TP24)
-Option 5: add a second Bjr or other amp (split the signal giving a lot more flexibility
in tone)
-Option 6: use a bigger amp
What is your recommended approach to navigate these options? Thanks! Roger
bill says:
September 28, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Theyre all options. The Clean Boost works at moderate volume, but when
youre playing loud, it increases drive to the output tubes. Hey, its still just a
15 watt amplifier! Micing the amp is always the least expensive way to get loud
and get over the drummer and the bass.
An extension speaker is worth 3dB.
The 30 watt version is very loud. But it doesnt sound like a normal Blues
Junior.
Two Blues Juniors sound like a Blues Junior, but the sound stage is wider.
Surprisingly, its not as loud as the 30 watt version. Theres less clean
headroom with two amps than with a full-on modded Blues Junior.
Using a Blues Deluxe will give you lots of volume and Blues Junior-like tone. I
havent had a chance to compare them head to head. But if you like the form
factor of the Blues Junior, the 30 watt version is the way to go.
Thats no help to your decision-making process. Sorry!
roger says:
September 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Very helpful. Thank you Bill! Roger
8. fp2000 says:
September 29, 2011 at 10:52 am
Bill, I did the TO-20 installation earlier this year, and then the octal tube socket
installation as well. Now, I never tried my 5881 s in it because of the PT not being
able to handle it, if I do the upgrade to this new PT24, will the TO-20 be able to
keep up? Please let me know. I have the stock 8ohm jensen speaker.
Thanks Frank
bill says:
September 30, 2011 at 6:41 am
The 5881s are an impedance mismatch for the TO20, so you lose some
efficiency. The 5881s also put out a bit more power than the TO20 is
comfortable with, so if you play loud and proud, the TO20 will get warm. For
around the house and occasional jamming, no problem. but youll get some
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mods.
Very Pleased!!! thank you!!
I was looking at bumping up the wattage to 30W. However, I really dont need more
volume(I play upstairs in the bonus room), but would like to get the most out of my
BJ. In order to maximize tone
1. Is the 30W upgrade the way to go or can I just replace the output transformer?
2. Do I need to make the octal socket mod to change the tubes?
3. And for the final mod, replace the speaker?
Thank you in advance for spelling it out for me
bill says:
October 5, 2011 at 4:08 pm
If you play at home, theres no need for 30 watts, unless youre in love with
the tone of 6L6s. Theres plenty of good, quiet tone on tap in your Blues
Junior, and you can bring it out with just the basic mods and a TO20 output
transformer. The audio-taper master volume control might be a good idea so
you can dial in nice tone at low volume.
14. B.Lindsay says:
October 6, 2011 at 1:52 am
I see in the comments that the 30watt 6L6 version is much louder (more so than an
extension speaker) and that the tone is quite different. Ive done almost all your
other mods, and I love them, but I havent felt the need to do the octal sockets.
How much louder does the EL84 18watt version with TP24 get? Is there a big tone
difference in it? As a matter of your personal preference, would you endorse the
tone change in the 30watt version (I mean, am I really missing out on something)?
bill says:
October 6, 2011 at 7:26 am
The TP24 in an EL84 amp with the basic mods and one of the upgrade
transformers is not noticeably louder than the stock transformer. You cant
hear the difference that 3 or so watts make (and that only comes at full
power). There is a difference in tone, mostly in clean headroom. The amp feels
a little faster, more responsive to pick attack.
The 30 watt version sounds much different than a stock Blues Junior. It has
robust bass and the glassy transparency that you only get with 6L6 tubes. And
it can get quite loud.
15. leslie says:
November 7, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Hi Bill, Just got the T24 The T26 and the 6l6 conversion kit today. I was
wondering about the extra wire green with a yellow stripe? Where does it
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bill says:
November 13, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Hi Bill,
Yes, the 6.5V drop is just right. The tubes are stressed enough to sound funky,
but well within their capabilities.
The op amp for reverb send/recovery doesnt make any audible difference. Its
driving three floppy coil springs through a magnetic transducertheres so
much loss and slop in that system that theres no hope in hearing a fidelity
difference.
18. Dustinfee says:
November 15, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Bill, Which 6L6 tubes can be used with the new power supply? Like Tung sol
6L6GC-STR?, GT 6L6-S, GT 6L6-R(B), JJ 6L6 GC? Can all of these be used and if not
why not and which ones can be used and what do you recommend? Sorry thats a
bunch of questions.
Dustin
bill says:
November 17, 2011 at 12:05 am
You can use any 5881 (GL6GB) or 6L6GC, I like JJs.
19. Billatl says:
November 20, 2011 at 4:12 pm
On my amp the bais was ok, [ just barely, I think ) for the JJ 6l6gc tubes. I tried
some old RCA 6l6gc tubes and it was way to hot! I am not sure , but I think they
went into a run-away condition after only a few minutes on. The brown/red wire
voltage was over 10 volts and rising fast. I could not set the bias down any more
without changing ( let Bill say which ) a resistor.?? Put the JJ tubes back in and the
amp is fantastic. The sound is NOT the same, there is the 6l6 bloom thing going
on!
bill says:
November 20, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Yes, the 6L6s change the sound of the amp in several ways the bloom, as
you mentioned. Also, it has far more dynamic range from soft to very loud, and
its noticeably brighter than the EL84 or 6V6 setups. If you want to use NOS
tubes, which require a higher bias voltage, wed have to build a voltage doubler
into the bias circuit or cathode-bias them. David Allen has done this with the
6L6s and says it sounds great. He likes the compression you get with cathode
bias, even though it costs a couple of watts of power.
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Billatl says:
December 26, 2011 at 10:59 am
Wow, you really got me thinking. At 30 watts, I can lose a few to cathode
biasing. With the spare parts off the Blues Junior, I repaired/modded a old
silvertone 1482 amp chassis I had been given 25 years ago.It is cathode
biased and has
the compression and smooth breakup that good distortion pedals are
trying to emulate!
Looking at the schematics for the BJ and some cathode biased amps,it
doesnt seem so difficult. Maybe it could even be switchable from fixed to
cathode biased. Have you looked at how to try this?
To me, the steps to convert would be; unhook existing bias supply,add a
ground between r31 and r32, add the bias resistor and capacitor from the
cathodes,( pin 8), of both the power tubes and connect to ground.??? If
this is correct, how do we determine the value and wattage of the bias
resistor? Am I in the ballpark???? Thanks for any help! Bill
bill says:
December 26, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Cathode bias will get you a somewhat more compressed sound, so it
might be worth a try. Id try a 330 ohm resistor, bypassed with 22 or
25uF, 100 volts. You probably only need 5 watts, but I like these
chassis-mount resistors (use a thin pop rivet; the holes are too small
for screws).
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Billatl says:
December 26, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Thanks,it may take me some time to do this , but I will let you
know how this turns out.
20. Billatl says:
January 1, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hey Bill, I got the cathode bias done and it worked out pretty good. I ended up with
a 300 ohm resistor and a 75 uf cap. 330 ohm lost a little harmonic richness, 220
ohm was unstable, 260 ohm still had ghost notes. The sound was fantastic, quite
bright, the larger cap seemed to fill in the bottom end better. The tone controls had
less influence than before, but the sparkle control maybe had a little more. The
overall perceived volume seemed to be much lower, maybe 50 or 60%,possibly
deceiving because of the compressed tone, smooth attack and sustain like a good
pedal. Notes sparkled, making reverb optional. Great boutique blues sound, the
notes floated around the room.
The bad news, my wife missed the bold, clean sound and volume of the fixed bias,
so I changed it back!( Its her amp!). She did tell me, though, that she appreciated
the sound.
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I think I will still buy a 10 watt resistor ,a 100uf 100 volt cap and make it switchable
back and forth!
Thanks for your help and encouragement, Bill
bill says:
January 2, 2012 at 10:35 am
Yes, thats why I dont like cathode bias all that much. The compression is
nice, but you give up a lot of power, too. At some point, the size of the bypass
cap stops mattering. Its very unusual to see more than 22-25uF in most
cathode circuits.
21. duncan says:
January 18, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Do I need to have any other mod installed before I install the TP24 upgrade?
bill says:
January 19, 2012 at 9:06 am
What are you trying to achieve? Just putting in the TP24 wont change much
a little more clean headroom, thats about it. The amp would still be
constrained by the stock coupling caps and tone stack, as well as the output
transformer. You get much more improvement from the basic mods and a
TO20 than from a TP24. I would recommend the TP24 primarily for the
higher-power octal conversions because the amp with EL84s is going to be
limited by the tubes. Final point: If you change the plate voltage, you have to
change the bias voltage. So you would need the adjustable bias mod thats
part of the basic mods.
22. duncan says:
January 19, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Thanks. I just ordered the cream basic kit as well as the recap kit since i found that
mine were leaking. I was mostly drawn to the tp24 when I read that it enabled
30watts. Ill order the tp24 and to20 after I get the basic mods in place! Thanks.
bill says:
January 21, 2012 at 12:20 am
But you only get 30 watts out if you do the octal conversion and run 6L6GCs
with the TO26 output transformer. EL84s limit you to 15-18 watts no matter
what.
23. DOUBLE J says:
January 30, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Bill
Love the site. Ive pretty much read everything now and had thought to buy a Green
board BJ like I had in 95 .
One of the things I liked about it compared to other Re-issue type amps was it
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conversion? I have purchased the T020 and I am now thinking about the octal
conversion and what that would take. I have not installed the output transformer
yet. Thanks for all the great work!
Steve
bill says:
March 9, 2012 at 5:34 pm
You can use it with the TO20, but only with 6V6s, as shown on the chart on the
page. For 5881s or 6L6s, you need the TO26 OT.
26. scott says:
March 20, 2012 at 10:03 am
I just added the TP24 to my blues jr. This was an excellent upgrade im glad I got it.
Im still using EL84 s so I wasnt really sure if it would be worth it or not.
I already had done the basic mod, TO20, upgraded tubes & a Texas Heat a while
ago, so here is the difference I noticed after recently adding the TP24:
1. It sounds much cleaner/ clearer, even when everything is turned up the notes are
still clear through the distortion. (crunch sounds more musical).
2. bass is not mushy at all. more punchy and powerful.
3. the low and upper mids sound a little brighter, but not too bright (the amp was a
little dark before with a les paul)
4. response is better, by this I mean I have better control of whether it plays clean
or crunchy by how hard I pick and easier use of the guitars volume control.
5. fat switch on sounds tighter. (Ill just always leave it on now).
TP24 didnt really make the amp any louder, but the quality of the sound at loud
volume is nice. (I always play it as loud as it will go and still maintain a cleanish
sound).
27. scott says:
March 21, 2012 at 10:54 am
Oh yeah, I had a question! All this talk of 30 watts in a blues jr makes me wonder
why not just add 2 more EL84s? Would it be possible? And wouldnt (4) EL84s still
sound like a blues jr but be louder.
If this sounds ridiculous, Please forgive me, its because Im a musician NOT an
electrician. Have you ever considered this?
bill says:
March 21, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Four EL84s take up more room than a pair of 6L6s, suck down more heater
current than a pair of 6L6s, and generate more waste heat than a pair of 6L6s.
You would also need a different output transformer to match the impedance of
paralleled tubes. Its far less work to replace two sockets than to add two
sockets. And in my opinion, a pair of 6L6s sounds better than a quartet of
EL84s.
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damping factor. The amp thus controls the speaker more accurately, which is especially
beneficial for low frequencies. Flaws like woofy, flabby or farty tone are a thing of the
past. Overdrive tones are sweeter, harmonics are richer. Frequency response extends
well past the range of hearing, so nothing is left behind.
Output transformers seldom make an amp louder; theyre mostly about tone quality.
But they do improve headroom by reducing distortion.
Below is a power spectrum sweep, using a stock Blues Junior OT:
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135 Comments
1. fp2000 says:
December 9, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Hi Bill,
what is your opinion for an octal socket conversion? If I decide to use 5881 s and
6V6 s, would the TO26 be an upgrade worth pursuing since it has both 4/8 ohm
taps? or would the TO22 or TO20 will suffice?
Do you account for TO input impedance when you switch between 5881 s and
6V6 s.
Please let me know
Thanks
bill says:
December 17, 2010 at 9:51 am
The Blues Junior power transformer can barely provide enough power to run
5881s, so the impedance doesnt matter much (it gets more important at full
power). The TO26 isnt necessary because the 5881s cant pull more than 25
watts from the power transformer.
Remember, you run 5881s at your own risk. The BJr bias supply can barely
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provide enough voltage to run them properly and they draw very heavily on
the heater supply.
2. gjcamann says:
January 19, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Other than the proverbial doorstop, is there any other good use for the original OT
after its been upgraded. Could it be used in my Valve Jr?
bill says:
January 24, 2011 at 9:24 am
The Valve Junior is a a single-ended (one output tube) amp. The BJr
transformer is for push-pull (two tubes). Theyre different in design, not
interchangeable.
3. gjcamann says:
January 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm
I know enough about electricity to be dangerous.
Ive got a 16 Ohm speaker Id would be interested in trying with a Jr. Could I run
the two 8 Ohm speaker outputs in series to allow it to drive an 16 Ohm speaker?
bill says:
January 24, 2011 at 9:27 am
A stock BJr has only 1 8 ohm output. The other jack is the footswitch jack for
the Fat switch. You can unplug the 8 ohm speaker and plug in the 16 if you
want to hear what it sounds like. You could also run both speakers in parallel,
not in series, for a 6 ohm load. The amp will drive either a 16 ohm load or a 4
to 6 ohm load without problems.
4. lancer.303 says:
February 17, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Bill,
I am trying to decide between T020 and T022 for my early 2010 PRRI and have
read your descriptions. My main goal (other than tighter low end) is to safely run
an external cabinet in parallel with the combo speaker for a total load of 4ohm, but
not all the time. And I really prefer the installation that does not need drilling for an
impedance switch as required for the T022. Your description for the T020 says,
for occasional use of an external 4ohm load. Just so I understand, the T020 is
rated 8ohm, so I would still be running an impedance mismatch from time to time
when I hook up my external cabinet using this model OT. Can you explain how this
works? Does the more robust T020 protect the amps power section from stress
even when running the occasional mismatch? Or does the T020 have a second tap
for 4ohm as well?
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The TO20 only has an 8 ohm tap. Any tube amp can typically handle a 100
percent mismatch without breaking a sweat. So a 4 or 16 ohm load on an 8
ohm OT is OK. The tubes will run hotter with the mismatch, but only at full
power. You can sacrifice a little tube life for more speaker if thats your
choice. Theres not a lot of room for an impedance switch on the PRRI, and
youd also have to drill a hole to mount the TO22. An alternative would be a
switching jack that switches to 4 ohms when you plug in the second speaker.
5. fp2000 says:
March 16, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Bill, thanks for such great transformer upgrade. Basic mods and OT upgrade have
made a huge difference. Just the basic mods with the twin stack mod I thought the
amp sounded awesome, and after the new OT was installed and rebiasing the amp
sounded fuller. I can say now that I dont even want to touch the amp anymore. I
am not even a fan of EL84 s, but the amp sounds pretty good compared to what it
was originally. My next mod will be the conversion to 6V6 s, but like I said, I want
to enjoy it as it is. Id wish I had a 6V6 modified bj to compare to and see if the
conversion is worth for me.
Thanks again Bill. By the way, installation was pretty straight forward.
6. madvek says:
July 15, 2011 at 11:30 am
Hi Bill, I recently picked up a 78 SFPR with the TO20 already installed. Also came
loaded with an Eminence Ramrod. The combination makes for a great portable
LOUD and CLEAN grab and go Fender. Im not sure what, if any other mods were
done.
Questions:
Where does the TO20 put the power rating of the PR?
Can you recommend a good speaker to give me some breakup? Or what power
rating should I be looking for to get some breakup without relying completely on
pedals. Thanks!
bill says:
July 16, 2011 at 8:35 am
The output transformer doesnt change the output watts unless the previous
transformer was severely undersized or mismatched to the tubes. The power
is the same, bu the tone is better.
Your 78 PR should start to break up naturally past 5 on the volume. If it
doesnt, it may need attention in other areas, such as fresh electrolytic caps,
coupling caps, out-of-spec resistors. Do you really want speaker breakup? Or
harmonics and compression from the amp?
7. aschcsa says:
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Hello Bill
Can I use this transformer in Australia ?
bill says:
August 22, 2011 at 8:04 am
Yes. The output transformer has nothing to do with the mains voltage.
8. musicman_atl says:
August 29, 2011 at 11:42 am
Hill Bill:
I just bought and installed your T020 transformer (and standby switch and
presence control) , it sounds great. In the instructions which came with it it says to
measure, after the install, the voltage drop between the red (CP2) and brown (CPI)
leads which should be set to 3.4 My jr. had already had an adjustable bias
installed, but this was the first time I have touched it. I used a multi-meter set to
DCV 200V and recorded 4.xx. I adjusted the trim pot until it read 3.4 and then
checked the Blue lead (CP3) which read 3.0 It would seem they are unmatched
output tubes.
Did I measure that correctly? The description of bias adjustment for the B jr on
your previous site and on your bias adjustment video for the pro junior involved
multiple steps. Should I use the multi step method and measure at the top of R23
(or R25, R24, R25)?
Thanks for the speedy turnaround of the order, the quality of the products and a
very enjoyable site.
Bill
bill says:
August 31, 2011 at 7:18 am
It sounds like you measured correctly. Your output tubes dont match
perfectly, but theyre close enough.
9. Erik says:
September 27, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Hey Bill,
I like to use my BJ pretty loud, but still clean (pretty much the EQ and master
cranked, volume below preamp breakup). Sounds like a better OT would be useful
for me
However, I would like to know if I can install a TO20 without drilling or heating up
my soldering iron?
bill says:
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The TO20 will improve the tone, especially in the bass, but it wont make the
amp substantially louder, at least not without further mods. If you want more
clean headroom, youd need to do the basic mods and high-voltage preamp in
addition to the output transformer. The TO22 is a little brighter, more
clean-ish than the TO20.
10. Skyblue737 says:
September 30, 2011 at 7:12 am
Bill,
I have a cream board BJr, and purchased the TO20 transformer. In the
description, it says fits the stock mounting holes in all these amps. Well, my
original transformer has four mounting screws at the corners. The TO20 has TWO
flanges for mounting, center-type. Did I misunderstand something? Does the TP24
transformer have two or four? Please advise.
Rob
bill says:
September 30, 2011 at 8:37 am
Youre confusing the power transformer with the output transformer. The
output transformer is on the back of the chassis.
11. eddie_bowers says:
October 12, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Does the bias need to be adjusted after upgrading the transformer (I already have
the adjustable bias mod)?
bill says:
October 12, 2011 at 10:56 pm
The bias current is determined by the tubes, not the transformer. Although
the voltage drop that you read will be different, the current will be the same.
12. goldtop87 says:
October 19, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Bill, I have emailed david allen and he mentioned that the to20 for the scxd has
caused some oscillating with this ot . Will this happen to all scxds? I wanted to
purchase, but are they even available for the fender scxd yet?
bill says:
October 21, 2011 at 10:29 pm
I have heard of some SCXDs have oscillated. I have a TO20 installed in one of
my SCXDs and its OK, but I have not had an opportunity to test more amps.
Its probably not worth the risk. Im currently not selling the TO20 for the
SCXD.
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How new are the tubes? How old is the amp? The filter caps may be failing, or
you may have other heat-induced problems. You could also have phase
inverter oscillation. See here:
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17. srwilk says:
March 19, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Hi BillI would like to upgrade my Superchamp XD with the T020 Low-Profile output
transformer. Is this simply a remove and replace, (drop in) transformer switch?
Any other mods necessary once I move forward with this upgrade? Thanks for
your time! Steve
bill says:
March 23, 2012 at 9:17 am
Its a drop-in. Same screw holes, same push-on connectors. A few folks have
reported oscillation with the TO20, most others love it. I havent had the time
to do extensive testing to see if there are issues.
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