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ON THE ART OF
THE THEATRE
By EDWARD
GORDON CRAIG
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P E E F A C E
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PREFACE
E. G. C.
London,
CONTENTS
PAGE
Preface vii
Introduction xiii
Future 1
Theatre 95
England 125
Shakespeare 264
Symbolism . 293
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ILLUSTRATIONS
(Frontispiece)
To face p.
liiLECTRA
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Julius Caesar
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Lantern Bearers
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Macbeth
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Hamlet
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148
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Macbeth. A Witch
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Macbeth
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^ INTRODUCTION
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INTROD UCTION
Dramaturg-Itegisseur of the
ELECTRA. SOPHOCLES
Of cmirse, it all depends whether you come to the theatre for drama
or literature.
If you come for drama, then let the whole thing live — not alone to
the brain, but through the eye and the ear.
If you come for a literary treat — best catch the first train home
and ovm up to having made a blunder.
1 Whitman.
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E. G. C.
Florence, 1911.
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^ DEDI C A TI ON ^
Try and get out of your head now that you really
want "to go on the stage." If, unfortunately, you
are upon the stage, try and get out of your head
then that you want to be an actor and that it is the
end of all your desires. Let us say that you are
already an actor ; you have been so for four or five
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â– ^OBEDIENCE TO NATURE^
ion â– -:
^ HENRY IRVING ^
^ INCORRECT TRADITION ^
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WHAT THE ACTOR KNOWS
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THE FACE OF HENRY IRVING
^ ON THE STAGE-MANAGER ^
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GENERAL UTILITY MAN TO-DAY
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^ THE REHEARSAL ^
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o THE REHEARSAL ^
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THE IDEAL S T A G E -M A N A G E R
what is required.
about your future than this that I have told you of,
' This little book I have been able to rescue from a dungeon
into which it had been thrown, and it is now free once more to
roam the world under the protection of Mr. Heinemann. You
will find it on p. 137 of this volume.
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AND BEYOND
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MA CBETH'
;> the lines and their direcpkm^ never mind the cliff
THE COLO U B
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A TECHNICAL EXPLANATION
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A TECHNICAL EXPLANATION
not the blows of the axes which hew out the great
stones give a texture to each stone which resembles
the texture given it by natural means, as rain,
lightning, frost ? So you will not have to change
your mind or change your impression as you
proceed. You will have but to give variations of
the same theme, the rock — ^the brown; the mist —
the grey ; and by these means you will, wonder of
wonders, actually have preserved unity. Your
success will depend upon your capacity to make
variations upon these two themes ; but remember
never to let go of the main theme of the play
when searching for variations in the scene.
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A TECHNICAL EXPLANATION
MY EARLY EXPERIENCE
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^ WOULD-BE IMITATORS ^
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^ WOULD-BE IMITATORS ^
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V I OLLET LE DU C
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THE WORD 'BEAUTIFUL' AND —
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THE FIRE OF CRITICISM —
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And as the last but one word was about these men,
so the last word of all shall be about their work.
Their work is so fine, they have found such good
laws and have followed these laws so well, have given
up all their worldly hopes in this one great search
after beauty, that when Nature seems to be too
difficult to understand, go straight to these fellows,
I mean to their work, and it will help you but of
all the difficulties, for their works are the best and
the wisest works in the world.
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MO V EMEN T
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JULIUS CAESAR
Act II. Scene II.
Before you like or dislike this design will you do me the fairness
of reading Act II. scene ii. It's an exciting scene, and will repay
your pains.
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AND.
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UNREASONABLE ATTACKS
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difficult to surmise.
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^ THE W A Y OTJ T ^
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I IWII.J
' " And therefore when any one of these pantomimic gentle-
men, who are so clever that they can imitate anything, comes to
us, and makes a proposal to exhibit himself and his poetry, we
wiU fall down and worship him as a sweet and holy and wonder-
ful being ; but we must also inform him that in our State such
as he are not permitted to exist : the law will not allow them.
And so, when we have anointed him with myrrh, and set a
garland of wool upon his head, we shall lead him away to
another city. For we mean to employ for our soul's health the
rougher and severer poet or story-teller, who will imitate the
style of the virtuous only, and will follow those models which we
prescribed at first when we began the education of our soldiers."
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^ ANEW HOPE ^
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A MYSTERIOUS BEAUTY
I it. This flesh-and-blood life, lovely as it is to us
all, is for me not a thing made to search into, or to
fi^y^ out again to the world, even conventionalized.
I'l think that my aim|shall rather be to catch some
far-off glimpse of that spirit which we call Death —
to recall beautiful things from the imaginary world ;
they say they are cold, these dead things, I do not
know — ^they often seem warmer and more living than
that which parades as life. Shades — spirits seem
to me to be more beautiful, and filled with more
vitality than men and women; cities of men and
women packed with pettiness, creatures inhuman,
secret, coldest cold, hardest humanity. For, look-
ing too long upon life, may one not find all this
to be not the beautiful, nor the mysterious, nor the
tragic, but the dull, the melodramatic, and the
silly : the conspiracy against vitality — against both
red heat and white heat ? And from such things
which lack the sun of life it is not possible to draw
inspiration. But from that mysterious, joyous,
and superbly complete life which is called Death-W
that Ufe of shadow and of unknown shapes, where
all cannot be blackness and fog as is supposed,
but vivid colour, vivid light, sharp-cut form;] and
which one finds peopled with strange, fierce and
solemn figures, pretty figures and calm figures,
and those figures impelled to some wondrous
harmony of movement — all this is something more
than a mere matter of fact. From this idea of death,
which seems a kind of spring, a blossoming — from
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IMPERSONATION UNDESIRABLE
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o FLA V BERT ^
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' Of Sculpture Pater writes : " Its white light, purged from
the angry, bloodlike stains of action and passion, reveals, not
what is accidental in man, but the god in him^ as opposed to
man's restless movement." Again : " The base of all artistic
genius is the power of conceiving humanity in a new, striking,
rejoicing way, of putting a happy world of its own construction
in place of the meaner world of common days, of generating
around itself an atmosphere with a novel power of refraction,
selecting, transforming, recombining the images it transmits,
according to the choice of the imaginative intellect." And
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again : " All that is accidental, all that distracts the simple eflfect
upon us of the supreme types of humanity, all traces in them of
the commonness of the worldj it gradually purges away."
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^ THE MARIONETTE ^
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rather the body in trance — ^it will aim to clothe <{
itself with a death-hke beauty while exhaling a f'
living spirit. Several times in the course of this^
essay has a word or two about Death found its
way on to the paper — called there by the incessant
clamouring of " Life ! Life ! Life ! " which the
realists keep up. And this might be easily mis-
taken for an affectation, especially by those who
have no sympathy or delight in the power and the
mysterious joyousness which is in all passionless
works of art. If the famous Rubens and the
celebrated Raphael made none but passionate
and exuberant statements, there were many artists
before them and since to whom moderation in
their art was the most precious of all their aims,
and these more than all others exhibit the true
masculine manner. The other flamboyant or
drooping artists whose works and names catch the
eye of to-day do not so much speak like men as
bawl like animals, or lisp like women.
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How stern the law was, and how little the artist
of that day permitted himself to make an exhibi-
tion of his personal feelings, can be discovered by
looking at any example of Egyptian art. Look
at any limb ever carved by the Egyptians, search
into all those carved eyes, they will deny you
until the crack of doom. Their attitude is so
silent that it is death-like. Yet tenderness is there,
and charm is there; prettiness is even there side
by side with the force ; and love bathes each single
work; but gush, emotion, swaggering personality
of the artist ? — ^not one single breath of it. Fierce
doubts of hope ? — ^not one hint of such a thing.
Strenuous determination ? — not a sign of it has
escaped the artist; none of these confessions —
stupidities. Nor pride, nor fear, nor the comic,
nor any indication that the artist's mind or hand
was for the thousandth part of a moment out of
the command of the laws which ruled him. How
superb ! This it is to be a great artist ; and the
amount of emotional outpourings of to-day and
of yesterday are no signs of supreme intelligence,
that is to say, are no signs of supreme art. To
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1 " All forms are perfect in the poet's mind : but these are
not abstracted or compounded from Nature ; they are from
Imagination." — Wiixiam Blake.
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P V N CH ^
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THE THANKSGIVING CEREMONY
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^ THE FALL ^
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G U S H NOT LOVE
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unknown.
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^ NOT A REFORMER ^
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^ A LIST OF WORKERS ^
wrist, the arm, the neck, and all the rest of the
values of the body in movement. Ask him
whether he knows how much light is sufficient to
fully illumine twenty cubic feet, and how much
will ouer-light twenty cubic feet and so waste the
light. Ask him if he knows the weight of wood and
cloth, or if he can tell you how swiftly or how slowly
a stage floor is able to be raised or lowered. Ask
him any of these things, and he will blandly tell
you (with shame be it spoken) that it is not his
business. And then this remarkable master of the
Art of the Theatre will call up his co-workers, and,
pointing to them, he will say, " These are my
assistants."
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THE RSGISS E U RS
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JULIUS CAESAR
The Poeum,
All I felt was the crowd, and the two parties. I had to bring all
these in and divide them so that we should feel the divisions clearly.
I put the crowd farthest off because, although a hundred thousand
voices can drown one voice when it is between you and the speaker,
still, a hundred thousand voices make an excellent background to the
voice of a personality. For instance, I never knew distant thunder,
however mighty it was, to interrupt a conversation.
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^ TWO TENDENCIES o
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1908.
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THE GRUMBLER
MACBETH
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HIS VISION
(A bell rings.)
I go, and it is done ; the hell invites me.
Hear it not, Duncan ; for it is a knell
That summons thee to heaven, or to hell.
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MACBETH
Act V. Scene V.
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<> A MISTAKE o
So you see now — I hope you see — ^that the
Theatre has nothing to do with the painter, or
painting, just as it has nothing to do with the
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A HARMLESS PROPOSITION
1908.
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PEER GYNT
Design for eoslume.
MY DEAR SeMAK,
On leaving Florence you asked me to
send you some news of the theatres that I should
see in Germany, England and Russia, and I had
no sooner arrived at Munich than I wanted to
send you news enough to fill three numbers of The
Mask.
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England, 1908.
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My dear Semar,
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Moscow, 1908.
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HAMLET
Act I. Scene IV.
Stage-director
Playgoer
To me it seems that Acting is the Art of the
Theatre.
Stage-director
Is a part, then, equal to a whole ?
Playgoer
No, of course not. Do you, then, mean that the
play is the Art of the Theatre ?
' This Dialogue was published for the first time in 1905. The
little book soon went out of print, and for the last three years
copies have been unprocurable.
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Stage-director
A play is a work of literature, is it not ? Tell
me, then, how one art can possibly be another ?
Playgoer
Well, then, if you tell me that the Art of the
Theatre is neither the acting nor the play, then I
must come to the conclusion that it is the scenery
and the dancing. Yet I cannot think you will tell
me this is so.
Stage-director
'' No; the Art of the Theatre is neither acting
Playgoer
Action, words, line, colour, rhythm ! And which
of these is all-important to the art ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
I always was led to suppose that it had sprung
from speech, and that the poet was the father of
the theatre.
Stage-directok
This is the common belief, but consider it for a
moment. The poet's imagination finds voice in
words, beautifully chosen; he then either recites
or sings these words to us, and all is done. That
poetry, sung or recited, is for our ears, and, through
them, for our imagination. It will not help the
matter if the poet shall add gesture to his recita-
tion or to his song; in fact, it will spoil all.
Playgoer
Yes, that is clear to me. I quite understand
that the addition of gesture to a perfect lyric poem
can but produce an inharmonious result. But
would you apply the same argument to dramatic
poetry ?
Stage-director
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Playgoer
No, I do not know, but I suppose he was the
dramatic poet.
Stage-director
You are wrong.i' The father of the dramatist
was the dancer. And now tell me frwiT what
material the dramatist made his first piece ?
Playgoer
I suppose he used words in the same way as the
lyric poet.
Stage-director
Again you are wrong, and that is what every
one else supposes who has not learnt the nature
of dramatic art. No ; the dramatist made his ,
first piece by using action, words, line, colour, and ^
rhythm, and making his appeal to our eyes and
ears by a dexterous use of these five factors.
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Playgoer
Stage-director
Playgoer
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Stage-director
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Playgoer
Then do you mean to say Hamlet should never
be performed ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
Yes — and incomplete anywhere except on the
'boards of a theatre. It must needs be unsatis-
fying, artless, when read or merely heard, because
it is incomplete without its action, its colour, its
line and its rhythm in movement and in scene.
Playgoer
Stage-director
Is that, perhaps, because it is a little new ? Tell
me what it is especially that dazzles you.
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Playgoer
Well, first of all, the fact that I have never
stopped to consider of what the art of the theatre
consisted — to many of us it is just an amusement.
Stage-directok
And to you ?
Playgoer
Stage-director
In fact, a sort of incomplete satisfaction. That
is the natural result of seeing and hearing something
imperfect.
Playgoer
Stage-director
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Playgoer
But for the others ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
(Ye&t the relation of the stage-director to the
actor is precisely the same as that of the conductor
to his orchestra, or of the publisher to his printer.
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Playgoer
And you consider that the stage-director is a
craftsman and not an artist ?
Stage-director
^' When he interprets the plays of the dramatist
by means of his actors, his scene-painters, and his
other craftsmen, then he is a craftsman — a master
craftsman; when he will have mastered the uses
of actions, words, line, colour, and rhji;hm, then
he may become an artist. Then we shall no longer
need the assistance of the playwright — for our art
will then be self-reliant.
Playgoer
Is your belief in a Renaissance of the art based
on your belief in the Renaissance of the stage
director ?
Stage-director
Yes, certainly, most certainly. Did you for
an instant think that I have a contempt for the
stage-director ? Rather have I a contempt for
any man who fails in the whole duty of the stage-
director.
Playgoer
What are his duties ?
Stage-director
What is his craft ? I will tell you. His work
as interpreter of the play of the dramatist is some-
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When some fine day you are asked to Produce a play, be prepared
to produce it yourself. // you are prepared you will not only
know how to act — but also how to dance — how to draw — how to
invent scenes and costumes and " properties." If you are a
producer you should be able at least to do all this thoroughly without
calling in the assistance of others.
The design here is for some " properties " used in " Venice Pre-
served.' ' It is often supposed that the artist is a vague kind of
creature who never goes into detail because he cannot. On the
contrary, he must be a man of precision, for his art is founded
upon that very quality.
The artist is the man who Does ; the amateur is the man who
Does not. Make certain that you be an artist of the Theatre, by ^^
being able to Do all your own designing, all your own arrangements I
far dances, fights, limelight effects and acting. For if yoy, call
in others to do it for you then you are but a glorious amateur.
Playgoer
Stage-director
It makes no difference whether he regards orl |\
disregards them. What he must see to is thaTltiV^
he makes his action and scene match the verse or
the prose, the beauty of it, the sense of it. What
ever picture the dramatist may wish us to know
of, he will describe his scene during the progress
of the conversation between the characters. Take,
for instance, the first scene in Hamlet. It begins : —
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Fran. Bernardo ?
Ber. He.
Playgoer
Then you do not think that an author should
write any stage directions whatever, and you seem
to consider it an offence on his part if he does so ?
STAGE-ijIKECTOR
Playgoer
In what way ?
Stage-director
First tell me the greatest offence an actor can
give to a dramatist.
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Playgoer
To play his part badly ?
Stage-director
No, that may merely prove the actor to be a
bad craftsman.
Playgoer
Tell me, then.
Stage-director
The greatest offence an actor can give to a dra- ^
matist is to cut out words or lines in his play, or
to insert what is known as a " gag." It is an
offence to poach on what is the sole property of
the playwright. It is not usual to " gag " in
Shakespeare, and when it is done it does not go
uncensured.
Playgoer
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Stage-director
Playgoer
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Stage-director
Playgoer
But Shakespeare
Stage-director
Shakespeare seldom directs the stage-manager.
Go through Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet, King Lear,
Othello, any of the masterpieces, and except in
some of the historical plays which contain descrip-
tions of possessions, etc., what do you find ? How
are the scenes described in Hamlet ?
Playgoer
My copy shows a clear description. It has
" Act I., scene i. Elsinore. A platform before
the Castle."
Stage -director
Playgoer
Stage-director
And the second scene ?
Playgoer
It says : " Scene ii. A street."
Stage-director
And the third scene ?
Playgoer
It gays : " Scene iii. A room in Capulet's
house."
Stage-director
And now, would you like to hear what scene
directions Shakespeare actually wrote for this
play?
Playgoer
Yes.
Stage-director
He wrote : " Actus primus. Scaena prima."
And not another word as to act or scene throughout
the whole play. And now for King Lear.
Playgoer
No, it is enough. I see now. Evidently Shake-
speare relied upon the intelligence of the stage-men
to complete their scene from his indication. . . .
But is this the same in regard to the actions ?
Does not Shakespeare place some descriptions
through Hamlet, such as " Hamlet leaps into
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Stage-director
No, not one word. All the stage directions,
from the first to the last, are the tame inventions
of sundry editors, Mr. Malone, Mr. Capell, Theobald
and others, and they have committed an indiscre-
tion in tampering with the play, for which we, the
men of the theatre, have to suffer.
Playgoer
How is that ?
Stage-director
Why, supposing any of us reading Shakespeare
shall see in our mind's eye some other combination
of movements contrary to the " instructions " of
these gentlemen, and suppose we represent our
ideas on the stage, we are instantly taken to task
by some knowing one, who accuses us of altering
the directions of Shakespeare — nay more, of alter-
ing his very intentions.
Playgoer
But do not the " knowing ones," as you call
them, know that Shakespeare wrote no stage
directions ?
Stage-director
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Playgoer
Stage-directok
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Playgoer
But I thought the stage-manager always left
that part of the play — the scene designing — to
the scene painter ?
_ Stage -DIRECTOR
Playgoer
How is it a blunder ?
Stage-director
This way : A has written a play which B promises
to interpret faithfully. In so delicate a matter
as the interpretation of so elusive a thing as the
spirit of a play, which, do you think, will be the
surest way to preserve the unity of that spirit ?
Will it be best if B does all the work by himself ?
or will it do to give the work into the hands of
C, D, and E, each of whom see or think differently
to B or ^ ?
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Playgoer
Of course the former would be best. But is it
possible for one man to do the work of three men ?
Stage-directok
That is the only way the work can be done, if I, '''^] y J^
fmSty^he one thing vital to a work of art, is to '
riE''obtained.
Playgoer
Stage-director
Certainly. And remember he does not merely
sit down and draw a pretty or historically accurate
design, with enough doors and windows in pictu-
resque places, but he first of all chooses certain
colours which seem to him to be in harmony with
the spirit of the play, rejecting other colours as ^
out of tune. He then weaves into a pattern
certain objects — an arch, a fountain, a balcony,
a bed — ^using the chosen object as the centre of
his design. Then he adds to this all the objects j
which are mentioned in the play, and which are /
necessary to be seen. To these he' adds, one by
one, each character which appears in the play,
and gradually each movement of each character,
and each costume. He is as likely as not to make
several mistakes in his pattern. If so, he must,
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Playgoer
Stage-director
Playgoer
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Stage-director
No, I will not say that he does so in every case
and for every play, but he must have done so at
one time or another during his apprenticeship,
or must have closely studied all the technical
points of these complicated crafts. Then will
he be ablejto_guide the skille d craftsmen in their
different depOTtments; And when the actual
making of the scenes'and costumes has commenced,
the parts are distributed to the different actors,
who learn the words before a single rehearsal
takes place. (This, as you may guess, is not the
custom, but it is what should be seen to by a stage-
director such as I describe.) Meantime, the scenes
and costmnes are almost ready. I will not tell you
the amount of interesting but laborious work it
entails to prepare the play up to this point. But
even when once the scenes are placed upon the
stage, and the costumes upon the actors, the
difficulty of the work is still great.
Playgoer "
The stage-director's work is not finished then ?
Stage-director
Finished ! What do you mean ?
Playgoer
Well, I thought now that the scenes and costiunes
were all seen to, the actors and actresses would
do the rest.
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Stage-director
No, the stage-manager's most interesting work
is now beginning. His scene is set and his char-
acters are clothed. He has, in short, a kind of
dream picture in front of him. He clears the stage
of all but the one, two, or more characters who
are to commence the play, and he begins the scheme
of lighting these figures and the scene.
Playgoer
What, is not this branch left to the discretion
of the master electrician and his men ?
Stage -DIRECTOR
The doing of it is left to them, but the manner
of doing it is the business of the stage-manager.
Being, as I have said, a man of some intelligence
and training, he has devised a special way of
lighting his scene for this play, just as he has
devised a special way of painting the scene and
costuming the figures. If the word " ha^nony "
held no significance for him, he would of course
leave to it the first comer.
Playgoer
Then do you actually mean that he has made
so close a study of nature that he can direct his
electricians how to make it appear as if the sun
were shining at such and such an altitude, or as if
the moonlight were flooding the interior of the
room with such and such an intensity ?
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Stage-director
No, I should not like to suggest that, because
the reproduction of nature's lights is not what
my stage-manager ever attempts. Neither should j
he attempt such an impossibility. JNot to reyro-^
duce nature, but to su^sest some of her most beauti-
ful and most living ways — ^that is what my stage-
manager shall attempt. The other thing pro-
claims an overbearing assumption of omnipotence.
A stage-manager may well aim to be an artist,/
but it ill becomes him to attempt celestial honoursl
This attitude he can avoid by never trying to
imprison or copy nature, for nature will be neither
imprisoned nor allow any man to copy her with
any success.
Playgoer
Stage-director
What guides him ? Why, the scene and the
costumes, and the verse and the prose, and the .
sense of the play. All these things, as I told you,
have now been brought into harmony, the one
with the other — all goes smoothly — what simpler,
then, that it should so continue, and that the
manager should be the only one to know how to
preserve this harmony which he has commenced
to create ?
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Playgoer
Will you tell me some more about the actual
way of lighting the scene and the actors ?
Stage-director
Certainly. What do you want to know ?
Playgoer
Well, will you tell me why they put lights all
along the floor of the stage — ^footlights they call
them, I believe ?
Stage-director
Yes, footlights.
Playgoer
Well, why are they put on the ground ?
Stage-director
It is one of the questions which has puzzled
all the theatre reform gentlemen, and none have
been able to find an answer, for the simple reason
that there is no answer. There never was an
answer, there never will be an answer. The only
thing to do is to remove all the footlights out of
all the theatres as quickly as possible and say
nothing about it. It is one of those queer things
which nobody can explain, and at which children
are always surprised. Little Nancy Lake, in 1812,
went to Drury Lane Theatre, and her father tells
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Playgoer
A friend of mine — an actor — once told me that
if there were no footlights all the faces of the actors
would look dirty.
Stage-director
That was the remark of a man who did not
understand that in place of the footlights another
method of lighting the faces and figures could be
adopted. It is this simple kind of thing which
never occurs to those people who will not devote
a little time to even a slight study of the other
branches of the craft.
Playgoer
Do not the actors study the other crafts of the
theatre ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
My friend the actor also added that if the foot-
lights were removed the audience would not be
able to see the expression of his face.
Stage -DIRECTOR
Had Henry Irving or Elenora Duse said so, the
remark would have had some meaning. The
ordinary actor's face is either violently expressive
or violently inexpressive, that it would be a bless-
ing if the theatres were not only without footlights
but without any lights at all. By the way, an
excellent theory of the origin of the footlights is
advanced by M. Ludovic Celler in Les Decors, les
costumes et la mise en-scene au XVII. siicle. The
usual way of lighting the stage was by means of
large chandeliers, circular or triangular, which
were suspended above the heads of the actors
and the audience; and M. Celler is of the opinion
that the system of footlights owes its origin to the
small plain theatres which could not afford to have
chandeliers, and therefore placed tallow candles
on the floor in front of the stage. I believe this
theory to be correct, for common sense could not
have dictated such an artistic blunder; whereas
the box-office receipts may easily have done so.
Remember how little artistic virtue is in the box-
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Playgoer
How do you mean ? I understand what you
suggest, but will you not show me more exactly
how the actor can spoil the pattern ?
Stage-director
Unconsciously spoil it, mind you ! I do not
for an instant mean that it is his wish to be out
of harmOTiy with his surroundings, but he does
so through innocence. Some actors have the right
instincts in this matter, and some have none
whatever. But even those whose instincts are
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Playgoee
Then you do not even permit the leading actor
and actress to move and act as their instincts and
reason dictate ?
Stage-director
No, rather must they be the very first to follow
tlie direction of the stage-manager, so often do they
become the very centre of the pattern — ^the very
heart of the emotional design.
Playgoer
Stage-director
nee I
Playgoer
Would you have the stage-manager control the
movements of whoever might be impersonating
the character of Romeo, even if he were a fine
actor ?
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Stage-director
Most certainly ; and the finer the actor the finer
his intelligence and taste, and therefore the more
easily controlled. In fact, I am speaking in par-
ticular of a theatre wherein all the actors are men
of refinement and the manager a man of peculiar
accomplishments.
Playgoer
But are you not asking these intelligent actors
almost to become puppets ?
Stage-director
A sensitive question ! which one would expect
from an actor who felt uncertain about his powers.
A puppet is at present only a doll, delightful
enough for a puppet show. But f or a theatre w e
need inore t han a do ll. Yet that is the feeling
which some actors have about their relationship
with the stage-manager. They feel they are
having their strings pulled, and resent it, and show
they feel hurt — insulted.
Playgoer
I can understand that.
Stage-director
And cannot you also understand that they should
be willing to be controlled ? Consider for a moment
the relationship of the men on a ship, and you will
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Playgoer
Stage-director
Well, and what is it that guides the ship ?
Playgoer
The rudder ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
The steersman who holds the wheel of the rudder.
Stage-director
And who else ?
Playgoer
The man who controls the steersman.
Stage-director
And who is that ?
Playgoer
Stage-director
Playgoer
The captain.
Stage-director
Playgoer
No, they should not be.
Stage-director
And can the ship steer its course in safety
without the captain ?
Playgoer
It is not usual.
Stage-director
And do the crew obey the captain and his officers?
Playgoer
Yes, as a rule.
Stage-director
Willingly ?
Playgoer
Yes.
Stage-director
And is that not called discipline ?
Playgoer
Yes.
Stage-director
Playgoer
The proper and willing subjection to rules and
principles^^^^
Stage-directok
And the first of those principles is obedience,
is it not ? " — ^
Playgoer
It is.
Stage-director
Playgoer
But you are not going to suggest such a possi-
bility for the theatre ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
But are not the actors, scene-men, and the rest
all willing workers ?
Stage-director
Why, my dear friend, there never were such
glorious natured people as these men and women
of the theatre. They are enthusiastically willing,
but sometimes their judgment is at fault, and they
become. as willing to be unruly as to be obedient,
and as willing to lower the standard as to raise it.
' As for nailing the flag to the mast — this is seldom
dreamed of — for compromise and the vicious doctrine
of compromise with the enemy is preached by the
officers of the theatrical navy. Our enemies are
vulgar display, the lower public opinion, and ignor-
ance. To these our " officers " wish us to knuckle
Playgoer
And that director, why should he not be an
actor or a scene-painter ?
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Stage-director
Do you pick your leader from the ranks, exalt
him to be captain, and then let him handle the
guns and the ropes ? No ; the director of a theatre
must be a man apart from any of the crafts. He
must be a man who knows but no longer handles
the ropes.
Playgoer
Stage-birector
Yes, that is so. But you will not find it easy
to assure me that no mutiny was heard of under
their rule. Right away from all this question of
positions there is the question of the art, the work.
If an actor assumes the management of the stage,
and if he is a better actor than his fellows, a natural
instinct will lead him to make himself the centre
of everything. He will feel that unless he does
so the work will appear thin and unsatisfying.
He will pay less heed to the play than he will to
his own part, and he will, in fact, gradually cease
to look upon the work as a whole.^- Axid this is
not good for the_work. This is not the way a
work of art is to be produced in the theatre.
Playgoer
Stage-director
All things are possible, but, firstly, it is against
the nature of an actor to do as you suggest;
secondly, it is against the nature of the stage-
manager to perform; and thirdly, it is against
all nature that a man can be in two places at once.
Now, the place of the actor is on the stage, in a
certain position, ready by means of his brains to
give suggestions of certain emotions, surrounded
by certain scenes and people; and it is the place
of the stage-manager to be in front of this, that
he may view it as a whole. So that you see even
if we found our perfect actor who was our perfect
stage-manager, he could not be in two places at
the same time. Of course we have sometimes
seen the conductor of a small orchestra playing
the part of the first violin, but not from choice,
and not to a satisfactory issue; neither is it the
practice in large orchestras.
Playgoer
I understand, then, that you would allow no
one to rule on the stage except the stage-manager ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
Not even the playwright ?
Stage-director
Only when the playwright has practised and
studied the crafts of acting, scene-painting, cos-
tume, lighting, and dance, not otherwise. But
playwrights, who have not been cradled in the
theatre, generally know little of these crafts.
Goethe, whose love for the theatre remained ever
fresh and beautiful, was in many ways one of the
greatest of stage-directors. But, when he linked
himself to the Weimar theatre, he forgot to do
what the great musician who followed him remem-
bered. Goethe permitted an authority in the
theatre higher than himself, that is to say, the
owner of the theatre. Wagner was careful to
possess himself of his theatre, and become a sort
of feudal baron in his castle.
Playgoer
Was Goethe's failure as a theatre director due
to this fact ?
Stage-director
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Playgoer
The traditions of most theatres certainly do not
seem to show that the artist is held in much respect
on the stage.
Stage-director
Well, it would be easy to say a number of hard
things about the theatre and its ignorance of art.
But one does not hit a thing which is down, imless,
perhaps, with the hope that the shock may cause
it to leap to its feet again. And our Western
theatre is very much down. The East still boasts
a theatre. Ours here in the West is on its last
legs. But I look for a Renaissance.
Playgoer
How will that come ?
Stage-director
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ID'
THE VIKINGS
Costume Design for " Sigurd."
Playgoer
That is to say, your ideal stage-manager.
Stage-director
Yes. You will remember that at the commence-
ment of our conversation I told you my behef in the
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Playgoer
Stage-dikectok
What ? Shall anything be lacking when the
poet shall no longer write for the theatre ?
Playgoer
The play will be lacking.
Stage-director
Are you sure of that ?
Playgoer
Well, the play will certainly not exist if the poet
or playwright is not there to write it.
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Stage-directok
There will not be any play in the sense in which
you use the word.
Playgoer
But you propose to present something to the
audience, and I presume before you are able to
present them with that something you must have
it in your possession.
Stage-director
Certainly; you could not have made a surer
remark. Where you are at fault is to take for
granted, as if it were a law for the Medes and
Persians, that that something must be made of
words.
Playgoer ,
Well, what is this something which is not words,
but "for presentation to the audience ?
Stage-director
First tell me, is not an idea something ?
Playgoer
Yes, but it lacks form.
Stage-director
Well, but is it not permissible to give an idea
whatever form the artist chooses ?
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Playgoer
Yes.
Stage-director
And is it an unpardonable crime for the
theatrical artist to use some different material
to the poet's ?
Playgoer
No.
Stage-director
Then we are permitted to attempt to give form
to an idea in whatever material we can find or
invent, provided it is not a material which should
be put to a better use ?
Playgoer
Yes.
Stage-director
Very good; foUow what I have to say for the
next few minutes, and then go home and think
about it for a while. Since you have granted all
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Berlin : 1906.
181
Playgoer
I AM glad to see you again after so long an
absence. Where have you been ?
Stage-director
Abroad.
Playgoer
Stage-director
Hunting.
Playgoer
Stage-director
I have ; it keeps one in good health. It exercises
all the muscles. I shall do better work when I
recommence.
Playgoer
Tell me about it all, where you have been hunting
and what you have bagged.
Stage-director
I have bagged nothing, for the beast that has
occupied me is not caught like a rabbit or a hare,
and is far more wary than a fox. Besides, the
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Playgoer
Which one ? The Chimaera, the Hydra or the
Hippogriff ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
You have destroyed him ?
Stage-director
Yes — I have made friends with him.
Playgoer
â– Was there any need for you to have gone abroad
to do this simple piece of by-play ?
Stage-director
Certainly, for it was only abroad that I found out
the poor thing's weak spots. I was really a little
frightened at his roar in England, and the reports
of his cave and its collection of dry skulls were
certainly most terrifying. But when I got abroad
^ T H E SECOND DIALOGUE^
Playgoer
Stage-director
Playgoer
And I have never before felt so disillusioned.
Stage-director
Playgoer
I hate the theatre.
Stage-director
Come now, you exaggerate ; you used to love it.
I remember you once asked me all sorts of questions
about the Art of the Theatre, and we had no end of
a talk.
Playgoer
I hate it now— I, neyer go inside a theatre now,
and the reports, pj ^ra^a phs, announcements and
interviews make me laugh.
Stage-director
Why is that ?
Playgoer
That is what I want to know.
Stage-director
Oh, you want me to be your doctor. You are
hungry for the Theatre and you can't swallow it as
it is ; you want a cure. Well, I can't cure you, for
I cannot alter the Theatre in a day or during your
lifetime, but if you would like to know what your
old love the Theatre is going to be one day I will
tell you.
Playgoer
You told me that a long time ago, and that has
only helped to make me discontented.
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Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
Agreed. Not a word on that awful subject shall
pass my lips — till you permit it.
Playgoer
186
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\ Stage-director
Playgoer
Maybe not, but that is the impression you leave
with me.
Stage-director
I can only apologize, and now that I have
promised not to touch on the Art of the Theatre I
propose to amuse you with the affairs of the Theatre.
To-night you will buy two stalls for a musical
comedy.
Playgoer
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
For instance ?
188
Playgoer
Well, if I call the actor at the Lyceum theatrical
he -will be offended ; if I find the production at the
Elysium vulgar I offend the producer, whom I know
personally. Besides, however much I may protest,
the actor and the producer are unable to change
their methods. I can neither applaud as formerly
nor protest as I do to you, and owing to this I am,
as I tell you, entirely without interest.
Stage-director
If the cause of your discontent could be removed
your interest would revive ?
Playgoer
Immediately.
Stage-director
Playgoer
No; but to express it definitely at all would
make me feel like a traitor to all I once loved.
Stage-director
Ah ! then it is you that have changed, not the
theatres.
Playgoer
Perhaps, perhaps.
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Stage-director
And you have developed your sense of what is
beautiful. Is it possible, then, that I see before
me the ideal spectator in person — ^that you have
become one of that audience which London has
been for so long trying to " educate " ?
Playgoer
No, not that ; not so ideal as all that ; but maybe
you are right that I have developed. The plays
and the players cannot have altered so enormously
in two years, whereas one's outlook may have
changed entirely.
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
You have looked at the Theatre from two points
of view : ascend to a third and better point of view
and see what you shall see.
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Playgoer
That interests me.
Stage-director
Playgoer
Well, I can't veer round and become one of the
191
Playgoer
Well, then, I am to become an Imperialist. Tell
me how to do it. 1
Stage-director
My dear fellow, you already look yourself again.
You are becoming positively interested. We had
better go and look for those seats at the Gaiety at
once.
Playgoer
No, stay here and go on talking. Tell me how
to become an Imperialist.
Stage-director
Well, you shall book stalls for Twelfth Night at
His Majesty's Theatre, a bench for the EHzabethan
Stage Society's production of Samson AgonisteSf
192
Stage-director
You are in a bad state indeed.
Playgoer
Yes, but do you not see it is all through you ?
Some years ago you showed me a visionary picture
of what the Theatre might become with its blessed
o 193
Stage-director
Come abroad. I can show you a theatre in the
north of Russia that will enchant you.
Playgoer
Why do you think so ?
Stage-director
194
Playgoer
Stop giving me any more vague notions of this
theatre and tell me in detail something of its
method.
Stage-director
Playgoer
In what does the work of the stage differ ? You
say they do not use different material from that
employed by the other theatres ?
Stage-director
No, the same. They use actors who paint their
faces, scenes painted on canvas and stretched upon
wood, footlights and other artificial lights, blank
verse, phonographs and all the rest of it ; but they
make use of these things with taste.
Playgoer
But do none of the other European theatres do
this ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
Then is there no other theatre where they use
these things with taste ?
Stage-director
No.
Playgoer
I suppose the workers in the Russian theatre are
able to use their material more tastefully because
they have more technical loiowledge ?
Stage-director
Yes, though I don't understand why you ask so
obvious a question. What do you mean ? If
instead of a casual study they give serious and
thorough study to their material it stands to reason
that their technique is more perfect.
Playgoer
But consider the performances at the leading
London theatres, for example. Is there no technique
shown in the use of these materials there ?
Stage-director
If this were so I should not have said no. But I
will give you an instance of what I mean. Take,
for example, the matter of scenic mechanism.
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Playgoer
How can you make such a statement ? You are
not even half a century old.
Stage-director
No ; but when a good idea has been found in the
theatre, especially a good idea for reproducing some
effect in Nature, it is never forgotten. Those are
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Playgoer
Stage-director
Well, I can but tell you it is more like Nature.
Would you say that to be like Nature is in better
taste, or would you say that to be like the Theatre
is in better taste ?
Playgoer
Certainly to be like Nature.
Stage-director
Very well, then, your question is answered.
Playgoer
But how do the workers in this theatre arrive
at this technical perfection which enables them to
use their material with such taste ?
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Stage-director
How do you arrive at a technical knowledge of
anything ?
Playgoer
By study, of course; but are these the only
theatrical workers in all Europe who do study ?
Stage-director
I think we are speaking of technical perfection ?
Well, then, you did not ask me whether they had
a superficial knowledge of their craft. There are
plenty of people who study, but who study badly.
The Constan people study and experiment more
carefully.
Playgoer
Stage-director
Possibly. And, as you know, talent is a thing
which develops by study.
Playgoer
Have they anything at Constan in the nature of
a school in which to study ?
Stage-director
Yes, their theatre is a school. They are in the
theatre from morning till night all the year round,
save for a few weeks' holiday in the summer. In
England you can go into a theatre on many days in
the year and find no one there except the carpenters
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Playgoer
Whom do you mean by the students ?
Stage-director
Stage-director
Playgoer
Is this not so in other lands ?
Stage-director
Most certainly not. Half the girls on the English
stage are chosen because they look pretty.
Playgoer
Stage-director
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Playgoer
Who are they ?
Stage-director
They are young people who apply to be admitted
to the theatre as students. They are told that they
must work for a certain time — I believe one or two
years — in order to become candidates for the school.
Then after an examination before the directors
and stage-managers and actors some of them are
selected and put into the school.
Playgoer
What kind of examination do they undergo ?
Stage-director
Each candidate prepares a poem and a fable for
recitation. And the examination of the candidates
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Stage-dikector
The same as is meant by a standing army.
Playgoer
Then do not the actors leave to take better
engagements ?
203
Stage-director
No, for there can be no better engagement. To
be a member of the Constan Art Theatre is the
ambition of every actor in Russia.
Playgoer
Would a very talented actor from another theatre
apply for membership in this company ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
Precisely.
Playgoer
Are all the students training to be actors ?
Stage-director
Yes.
Playgoer
Stage-director
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Playgoer
You spoke to me once long ago about an ideal
stage-manager, a man who would combine all the
talents, who had been actor, scene and costume
designer; who understood the lighting of the play,
the formation of dance, and the sense of rh3i;hms ;
who could rehearse the actors in their parts ; who
could, in short, with his own brain, finish that work
which the poet, for all stage purposes, had left in
an unfinished condition. Do you find any such in
Constan ?
Stage-director
do.
Playgoer
Stage-director
Then, now, I will try and show you wherein the
essential difference really lies. I have been able
so far to explain to you something of the system.
I have tried to show you how superior the Russian
method is to any other, but I still do not expect
you to understand entirely what I mean, and I
admit that it would be utterly impossible to explain
the chief reason of this theatre's superiority till you
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Playgoer
Stage-birector
Playgoer
And what is it ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
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Stagk-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
To begin with, the administration is in the hands
of a board of directors. There is the president,
five members of the board, and the secretary, and
five out of these seven are artists. The capital is
vested in a stock company composed of merchants
of the city of Constan, and, like other stock com-
panies, the money and affairs are administered by a
board of directors.
Playgoer
Then so far it does not differ from other theatres ?
Stage-director
No ? Is it usual then for artists to be in the
majority on the board of directors ? I think you
have overlooked this. But now tell me something.
I am a man entirely innocent of business. Sup-
posing I had found people to have enough faith in
me to put down fifty thousand pounds to establish
an Art Theatre in England what would be the feeling
exhibited on the last day of the year when the report
was read out to the shareholders showing that there
was not a penny of dividend ?
Playgoer
The shareholders would examine the books, and,
having found that the expenses exceeded the in-
come, they would probably change the management,
and advise the production of more popular pieces,
which would bring more money into the box office,
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Stage-directok
Why would they do this ?
Playgoer
Because they put their money into the theatre
with the idea of making more by it.
Stage -DIRECTOR
Suppose you were yourself a shareholder, and I
were to point out to you that this thing could not
possibly pay for one, two, or even three years, what
would you say, knowing that there had been a
deficit on the first year ?
Playgoer
Stage-director
Stage-director
I should take it, then, that you had become a
shareholder because you were interested not only in
the making of money but in the work itself ?
Playgoer
Yes; but as I am a business man my primarj^
object would be to make money.
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Stage-director
Would you think that it would be a practical
move on your part to go on supporting such a
theatre if it paid no dividend for the first three,
four, or five years ?
Playgoer
No, I should not.
Stage-director
Well, then, explain to me as a business man how
it is that there have been business men found in the
town of Constan who are content to wait for ten years
to see the first return for their money ?
Playgoer
It is inexplicable to me. But I suppose that the
making of money must to them have been a secon-
dary consideration to the furthering of art. And
really, if I were an extremely wealthy man myself
I should look on that as a luxury or a hobby, and
one which I could take pride in being connected
with.
Stage-director
Playgoer
Yes. But tell me one thing. When was the
first dividend declared ?
Stage-director
At the end of ten years.
Playgoer
But that might happen in any theatre ; it sounds
bad business, but is not peculiar to any particular
enterprise.
Stage-director
Yes ; but the fact that after ten years we find the
original list of shareholders unchanged, and not
only unchanged but increased, is rather unusual, is
it not ? and certainly most encouraging. Do you
not find it so ?
Playgoer
Yes, both encouraging and inspiring. I really
do think that what you tell me is quite splendid.
But could it be done anywhere else ?
Stage-director
Have you any good reason for thinking that it
could not be done ?
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Playgoer
Stage-director
Stage-director
Playgoer
Playgoer
Stage-director
Well, then, why do you think these millionaires
have put their money into this theatre ?
Playgoer
Because I think they have been brought to a
realization that something has got to be done for
the drama in America, and being men in a leading
position they feel they are expected to do it.
Stage-director
And if at the end of, let us say, five years, the
public agrees that the work being done in the
theatre is perfect, yet the directors know that there
has been no profit, will they continue to support it,
or will they say that the work is less perfect because
the theatre has failed to return a dividend ?
Playgoer
If they realized that the pubUc was satisfied
they would continue. But tell me, if the public
was satisfied would not that mean that the theatre
had been full every evening ?
Stage-director
Not exactly, though it might mean that it had
been very fairly full every evening. But you must
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Playgoer
Do you not call that bad business ?
Stage-director
I cannot give an opinion upon business. But
let me put it to you more clearly, and do you then
decide. This Russian theatre has had full houses,
it has produced plays which the public has said
are perfect; it is the first theatre in the land; it
has done what it set out to do. Do you not call
that good business ?
Playgoer
Yes, I do.
Stage-director
Would you call it good business to have built up
a reputation which is second to none in Europe ?
— to be able to command a vast pubhc and the
enthusiastic support of staunch shareholders ?
Playgoer
Yes, I suppose I should.
Stage-director
You would agree that the shareholders have in
their possession something by means of which they
can now reaHze what money they like ?
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Playgoer
How can they do so ?
Stage-birectok
By building a second theatre, a large theatre,
and by touring round the world.
Playgoer
Where is the money coming from when you say
that they have only just begun to realize a slight
dividend ? /
Stage-director
Playgoer
Rather a costly example !
Stage-birector
Not so costly when you think of it for a moment.
It is the belief in Europe that the Russians are
composed of people less interested in art than any
one else. In this their reputation resembles that
of the English. There is a general idea also that
they are a kind of savage race, and by making this
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Playgoer
Yes, I think so; but looking at it in that light,
it takes it right away from the commercial theatre.
Stage-director
Why, of course it does. I was speaking of the
theatre as an asset of the nation.
Playgoer
Yes? Well, we are going to have a National
Theatre in England.
Stage-director
Not at all. We are going to have a Society
Theatre. That in my opinion is very much what
the New Theatre in America is — a society theatre.
Now nobody wants a society theatre, least of all
the ladies and gentlemen who are obliged to go and
217
Playgoer
218
Stage-director
Their point of view differs very slightly from that
of any of the English managements, for we must
believe the English managers when they assure us
that their aim is to do the best possible work.
Perhaps the men are of a different strain. But
you could find as clever and as enthusiastic fellows
over here, and if there is less sympathetic under-
standing of each other's wishes there is more sense
of discipline in Englishmen.
Playgoer
Then a theatre such as the Constan Art Theatre
could be founded here ?
Stage-birector
A theatre, yes ; and two or three such theatres.
Playgoer
That would indeed be an excellent thing.
Stage-director
And is it not practical ?
Playgoer
I should say absolutely practical.
Stage-director
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Playgoer
Well, but isn't it ? And how can you ask any one
in his senses to believe in a scheme which has not
been tried ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-directob
And if I should say that though it is a very practi-
cal method of carrying on a modern theatre, which
has to open its doors to the public night after
night, there is even a more practical method of
pursuing the study of the Art of the Theatre,
what would you say ?
Playgoer
you mean.
Stage-directok
Playgoer
I suppose you are. Are the directors at Constan
not far-sighted ?
Stage-director
Very far-sighted where their theatre is concerned,
less so where the art is concerned. They have to
keep their theatre open night after night ; it is one
of the difficulties with which they are always con-
tending. If they could close their theatre for five
years and spend that time in making nothing but
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Playgoer
To close such a theatre for five years would be
a very serious step to take.
Stage-director
Very serious; just so serious as the occasion
demands. Most theatres in Europe might be
closed indefinitely all the year round for fifty years
and make experiments all the time without any
valuable results, but this theatre in Constan is the
exception, and it might just discover the heart of
the mystery by so doing. And I think we should
be just so far-sighted as to see how serious is the
present position of the Theatre.
Playgoer
But no one can see farther than the vanishing
point at any time, and I presume that point to be
the limit which you set to the sight of any director
— it is the farthest he can see.
Stage-director
Perfectly correct; but remember with each ad-
vancing step the position of the vanishing point
alters, and we are thus enabled continually to see
farther than before.
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Playgoer
That is true.
Stage-dieector
Playgoer
I do.
Stage-director
What, then, is practical to him ?
Playgoer
All that lies before him and all that he can see.
Stage-director
And if he advance five steps he will see less than
should he advance a hundred steps ?
Playgoer
Yes, certainly — twenty times less.
Stage-director
And if he advance five hundred steps he will see
a hundred times more than if he advance but five
steps ?
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Playgoer
Yes ; there is no doubt about it.
Stage-director
And he will therefore be able to achieve a hundred
degrees more than by advancing five steps and
seeing five degrees farther ?
Playgoer
That is true.
Stage-director
Playgoer
The latter, but with caution.
Stage-director
Yes, with caution and deliberation ; but you will
remember that we proved that it was entirely safe
for a man to advance provided he went towards
that which was visible to him. Now we must see
which is the best method of reaching a spot which
is visible to us. Do you think it is by going
backwards ?
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Act I. Scene V.
Playgoer
Certainly not. How could it be ?
Stage-directok
Or by going sideways, perhaps ?
Playgoer
No, of course not.
Stage-director
Or moving in a circle, for caution's sake ?
Playgoer
No. None of these ways would serve.
Stage-director
Why not ?
Playgoer
Why, they would be absurd. When you have
seen something the best way to reach it is to go
straight towards it.
Stage-director
Has this method ever been put into practice
with success ?
Playgoer
Yes ; nearly always.
Stage-director
In a hundred cases how often would you say it
has been successful ?
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Playgoer
I should say in ninety cases out of a hundred.
Stage-director
I should think you are right, and should myself
be inclined to say that a man can reach that which
he can see in ninety -nine cases out of a hundred by
going straight towards the object. The hundredth
time I waive the right as acknowledgment to the
Goddess Fortuna. It is also reasonable to suppose
that by doing so he will, as we have said, save much
time.
Playgoer
Stage-director
I must ask you to follow me back to that point,
the Theatre, a point which you have perceived, in
a straight line and without any delay. Will you
tell me whether the eyes are generally used for
seeing with ?
Playgoer
Stage-director
And would you say that, in order to see, it is more
practical to open the eyes than to close them ?
Playgoer
Stage-directok
You do not answer my question. Is it also
practical ?
Playgoer
It is.
Stage-director
And would you say that to look in the direction
where you have seen something a while ago is to
stand a good chance of seeing it again ? Would you
say that it is practical ?
Playgoer
I should.
Stage-director
And on arriving at the spot seen, and seeing
farther on a second spot, would it be practical to
advance farther in the same direction, so as to
reach it ?
Playgoer
It would.
Stage-director
Very well, then ; you have told me what I always
suspected to be the truth. You have said that an
artist with imagination is justified, and entirely
practical, in advancing towards that which he has
once seen in his imagination. Therefore, my dear
fellow, you have only now to tell me one thing
more.
Playgoer
What is that ?
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Stage-director
You must tell me whether it is possible for all
people to see the same thing.
Playgoer
It is very unlikely.
Stage-director
Therefore if I have seen something it is quite
possible that there are many people who have not
seen the same thing ; and if it has interested me it
is quite likely that others will be curious to see it
also?
Playgoer
Stage-director
You, for instance ?
Playgoer
Yes.
Stage-director
Playgoer
Certainly you may.
Stage-director
If I do not show it to you you may never see it,
so practically speaking, until I show you, it may be
said to belong to me ?
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Playgoer
We may admit so much.
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
And by practical you mean — what ?
Playgoer
The meaning of the word practical is that which
iis possible of accomplishment.
Stage-director
You are right. And is there but one way of
accomplishing everything ?
Playgoer
No, there is generally more than one way. Why
do you ask ?
Stage-director
You must forgive me for the assumption, but
my intention was to ascertain whether you con-
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fused the phrase the " practical way " with another
phrase, the " usual way," or with a third, the
" matter-of-fact way."
Playgoer
Most certainly not.
Stage-director
Again forgive me ; but to confuse the meaning of
the word " practical " has become so usual lately,
especially when speaking of the Theatre. Let us
proceed : I was saying that if I had something
which belonged to me and wanted to show it to
you I must take great care, if I wished to bring it
to you without in any way damaging it.
Playgoer
Yes.
Stage-director
Of course we admit the supposition that I cannot
take you to see it, and there are some things which
are so situated. The North Pole, for instance ; or
an idea — and to all intents and purposes the
North Pole is nothing more nor less than an idea.
If I tell you, for instance, that I have seen the
North Pole you are no more enlightened than if
I told you I had seen Heaven.
Playgoer
True.
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Stage-directoe
Whereas if I tell you I have seen a church-steeple
you have something familiar to go upon from
which you can construct an actuality. The North
Pole, or an idea, is something to which I cannot
take you without considerable exertion on your part
as well as my own; but I can convey an idea to
you or a proof that the North Pole exists at a
certain spot on the globe. But, as we agreed, it
must be brought to you with great care. For
instance, my proof of the existence of the North
Pole must be made quite clear to you, and though
this will give you no exertion whatever, it will
give me exactly double as much as if you had gone
with me to search for those proofs.
Playgoer
How is that ?
Stage-director
You will remember that we agreed that the mere
telling you I have seen the North Pole is not suffi-
cient proof that I speak the truth, whereas the mere
telling you that I have seen a church-steeple is
enough.^ Now, what would be enough to prove
to you I had seen the North Pole ?
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Playgoer
You would have to prove before a group of
experts and scientists by means of certain obser-
vations, etc.
Stage-director
Would that prove the truth of my statement ?
Playgoer
I suppose so ; it is the test they go upon.
Stage-director
And you, could I not prove it to you ?
Playgoer
Well, no; you see I should not be able to under-
stand you; my only chance of being in sympathy
with your tale would be to trust in the experts
before whom you had laid your proofs.
Stage-director
But would my tale have any interest for you ?
could you have sympathy with what you could
not understand ?
Playgoer
Stage-director
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Playgoer
May I ask you
Stage-director
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Playgoer
But what has this to do with the Theatre ?
Stage-director
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Playgoer
What a strange paradox !
Stage-directok
Well, let us accept it ; you want the pretty little
fringe ; you shall have it, although it is that fringe
that costs so much to obtain which presents the
whole difficulty. And now for the Theatre. But
first a request.
Playgoer
What is it ?
Stage-director
You asked me not to speak any more about
temples or about the Art of the Theatre which I
once told you was lost; which a beautiful poet
well described to me as having " lain hid under the
roots of the Pyramids for two thousand years, so
solemn it is." Give me leave to speak again of
this.
Playgoer
Stage-director
Only so.
Playgoer
us once more ?
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Stage-director
That is my intention.
Playgoer
You will not propose to destroy all the present
theatres of the world in order to do this, for then
I should not listen to you, for it would be no longer
a practical proposition.
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-director
Stage-director
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Playgoer
Stage-director
Playgoer
Stage-dikector
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Playgoer
Stage-director
Playgoer
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Stage-director
On the contrary — I think we can be sure of ex-
ceptional success ; as to any final success, it is a
rare thing to achieve, for finahty is something
which probably does not exist. Now tell me, does
my plan and its method of execution appeal to
you?
Playgoer
Stage-director
Whom do you mean ?
Playgoer
Well, to be outspoken, Sir Herbert Tree, Sir
Charles Wyndham, Arthur Bourchier, Weedon
Grossmith, Cyril Maude
Stage-director
The actor-managers, you mean ?
Playgoer
Yes, but I had not finished my list of names,
which includes not only all those connected with
the arts in England and even some of those con-
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Stage-director
You have put me an easy question to answer.
You have mentioned some of the best-known names
in the theatrical world. If the proposed college is
opposed to all their interests they will not support
it. But consider whether this is the case. For
instance, amongst those you have named are
possibly a few men of decidedly ideal tendencies.
The directors of the Constan Art Theatre are un-
doubtedly such men. I think we have their support.
Madame Duse ? I think she would never refuse
hers. Then there is Reinhardt of Berlin. Such a
scheme is one which is certainly not opposed to
his interests. And that Sir Herbert Beerbohm-
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Stage-dikector
Why, what else can they give ? They are hard
workers in a very different profession, and already
their reputation for generosity has been too often
imposed upon. If they will give us their hands
and bid us God-speed it is all we should ever
dream of asking for.
Playgoer
Well, but your capital — where is that coming
from ? A bundle of God- speeds are pretty, but no
practical use can be made of them.
Stage-director
State.
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Playgoer
Your confidence inspires me to believe you are
right. But there are two things which you will
have to prove to the State before it will accord you
its support.
Stage-director
What are they ?
Playgoer
First, you will have to show clearly that the
State would benefit ; secondly, that the advantage
would exceed the cost.
Stage-director
Very well, then, let us first consider how the
State would benefit.
T The Theatre affects the people in two different
J^ways. It either instructs or it amuses. There
are many ways to instruct and to amuse. Now,
which would you say was the more instructive,
something heard or something seen ?
Playgoer
I would say the latter.
Stage-director
And which would you say was easier of com-
prehension, the beautiful or the ugly, the noble or
the mean ?
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Playgoer
If we seek for instruction it is easier to com-
prehend the beautiful and the noble, for it is
that which we are searching for; if we seek for
amusement the ignoble and ugly is possibly more
immediate in its effect.
Stage-director
And is the beautiful and the noble more amusing ?
Playgoer
I think it is not.
Stage-director
And yet what is that which, when you see and
hear it, causes you to feel smilingly from top to
toe?
Playgoer
Stage-director
I think so too. Yet is there not something of
amusement in it? for we smile ; and a smile is the
whisper of laughter.
Playgoer
You are right.
Stage-director
Perhaps we may call it the very best part of
amusement ?
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Playgoer
We may for the sake of argument.
Stage-director
And this is connected, as we have seen, with the
beautiful and the noble; therefore the very best
part of amusement is akin to the best part of
instruction.
Playgoer
It seems so.
Stage-director
Playgoer
True.
Stage-director
Would you say that this feeling, which for want
of the right word I have called " smiling from top
to toe," is a good or a bad feeling ?
Playgoer
I should say it was the very best feeling.
Stage-director
In fact, if you saw hundreds of faces in a gather-
ing of people wreathed in smiles, you would say
that they felt happier than if you saw those faces
strained and weary-looking ?
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Playgoer
Why, certainly I should.
Stage-director
And tell me, if you were a king, would you
rather see happy faces such as I have described
or gloomy ones ?
Playgoer
Happy ones, of course.
Stage-director
Another question : Would you prefer to see them
smiling or thoughtful ?
Playgoer
Smiling or thoughtful ? The thoughtful face is
not necessarily the gloomy face, — and yet I would
prefer that they smiled.
Stage-director
Why would you prefer it ?
Playgoer
Because then I too should feel Hke smiling.
Stage-director
A good answer. Now you told me just now
that something seen instructs us more than some-
thing heard. May I take it that you mean that
what we see is more swiftly and more easily
comprehended ?
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Playgoer
Yes, that is what I mean.
Stage-director
Let us take an example. We see a finely bred
horse let loose in a field. He gambols, arches his
neck, looks around splendidly with his eye. If we
had never seen a horse before, no description would
convey the right impression to us so swiftly as does
this seeing him.
Playgoer
Yes, that is very true.
Stage-director
And would a verbal description of the horse
delivered at the same time as it became visible to
us assist us to understand better what we see ?
Playgoer
No, I think it might confuse us, for we should
be so much occupied in gazing at the creature.
Stage-director
Then you would not be prepared to hear any-
thing about it in addition to seeing it ?
Playgoer
No, it would rather irritate than assist.
Stage-director
And yet they say that instruction is obtained
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Playgoer
Yes, but the two impressions are likely to con-
found each other if they come to us simultaneously.
Stage-director
Well, then, let us put it differently. Suppose
the horse in his gambols before us should give
expression to his joy and pride by neighing — ^what
then?
Playgoer
Ah, that's true ! That would assist us to compre-
hend; our senses would be delighted.
Stage-director
The neigh of a horse, then, is more illuminating
than a learned discourse ? Would you smile on
hearing it ?
Playgoer
Yes, it is very likely.
Stage-director
You would say then that you had been perfectly
jistructed, for you had seen something noble and
you had heard some playful expression proceeding
from that which seemed so noble, and you would
smile through your understanding. You would not
become thoughtful, would you ?
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Playgoer
No, no ; I should be enchanted.
Stage-directok
Playgoer
Yet they are separated, for the music-hall echoes
with shrieks and howls of the loudest laughter,
and the faces of the audience at the Lyceum are
very much drawn during the performance of King
Lear or Hamlet.
Stage-director
Playgoer
But a perfect theatre is impossible.
Stage-director
What do I hear ? What is it you say ? I think
we are in England — ^no ? I think you are an
Englishman — am I right ? and I think you will
withdraw that last remark of yours at once.
Playgoer
You look so like that horse you were describing
that I do so to avoid your heels !
Stage-director
Bravo ! And now that it is agreed that it is
possible to create a perfect theatre here in England
let us see how we may do so. You say we must
prove that the State will be benefited before we
can hope for its support. Well, it is the most
perfect theatre in the world that we shall offer to
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Playgoer
Stage-direc tor
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Playgoer
I do not think so now after what you have told
me.
Stage-dieector
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Playgoer
Does the public part with so great a sum yearly ?
Stage-director
' Theatres remain open for over two hundred nights in a year.
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Playgoer
Hardly. I asked you if the advantage to be
derived by the State would exceed the cost. You
have only shown me that the cost is exceedingly
low in comparison with other State and private
expenditures, but you have yet to show me that
the State will reap its £25,000 worth of advantages.
Stage-director
Let us look into that at once. The State will
receive from the college at the end of five years
the results of their labours. These will include:
(1) A practical demonstration of the best method
to be employed for building and directing a national
theatre as an ideal theatre, and in a manner
hitherto deemed impossible. (2) The improve-
ment by simplification of many of the mechanical
appliances of the modern stage. (3) The training
of stage-managers and of the staff employed to
shift the scenery. (4) The training of actors to
speak and to move — ^the chief difficulties of the
average actor. (5) The training of a group of
original scene-painters, a group of perfectly drilled
men to execute any given order regarding the light_s
on the Stage, for at present, as any visit to a special
light rehearsal will show, the lighting staff in a
theatre is always at sea.
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You see then that the college, with its eyes fixed
on the future and its ideal firmly established,
would keep its hands and fingers busy with the
present. The search for the lost Art of the Theatre
must be made only after passing through the regions
in which the modern theatre is situated. In
passing we shall re-establish its order; do you
understand ?
Playgoer
I think you have made it clear. And now, one
more question. Are you to act as the head of this
college ?
Stage-director
No. The head, or leader, as I tell you, will be
elected by the members.
Playgoer
And will you not enter for election ? What
will the college be without you ?
Stage-director
Playgoer
What do you mean ? Will you desert the very
scheme you have created ?
Stage-director
No ; I shall never be absent from the college, but
I shall not act as either head, body or member.
Playgoer
What will you do, then ?
Stage-director
I shall give it its existence, and shall then ask
to be permitted free entrance to the college, so as
to study there whenever I wish to. And my reasons
for desiring this are many. To explain them to
you fully would take many years. But you may
take- it that they are not lazy reasons. I should
feel honoured to be a member of such a college.
Playgoer
But you will give it more than this — ^you will
yourself make experiments and lend your gifts to
the work ?
Stage-director
My gifts are few and cannot be lent. I would
willingly make experiments if asked to do so, but
I believe I can be of more use to this college at a
little distance than connected with it.
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Playgoer
And this is how you would propose to discover
this lost art, which you, probably, more than any
one else, know most about ?
Stage-director
I know very little about it, but possibly I know
where it is situated better than the others. I can
point to the right direction, and for this reason
I believe I am not altogether valueless to the efforts
of the college. In their search, their experiments,
I shall be ever with them, but I shall not lead them,
nor must I be expected to follow them. When-
ever called upon I shall be at their service, but not
for any fixed occupation.
Playgoer
Well, you somewhat take my breath away. You
prove to me that you know as much or more than
the rest of the world about this Third Art, as you
have called it, and you talk about it to me for
hours; you give up everything in your life for it
and you propose to plan out the college up to a
certain point — and then you hand over your
college, idea, plan, to some one else. Have you no
fear that the whole thing will become much changed
when it leaves your hands ?
Stage-director
It will certainly change — ^its existence depends
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Playgoer
But have you no personal desires in relation to
this college ? Will you not be a little pained to
see it moving in a wrong direction ?
Stage-director
It will not do so. The magnet of the ideal is
fixed; attraction has already commenced; it is in
resisting this that we shall make our discoveries.
There will be men with us who will from time
to time become depressed and tired, and then
mistakes are likely to occur — and with the mis-
takes discoveries. But the mistakes will never be
wilfully made from some selfish motive, and can
but be the result of too great a strain. But these
resistances, as I said, will only lead us towards our
ideal.
Playgoer
But the modern theatre which you profess to
despise resists the attraction of the ideal.
Stage-director
Ah ! that is quite different. They resist through
fear ; we shall resist through courage. We shall hear
the call and feel the pull, and we shall go straight
onwards, but with slow deliberation, making dis-
coveries all along the way. We shall finally
discover what we look for and what attracts us,
and then
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Not that I believe the theatre is for the " few " — but there are
some plays and some shows which are not for "the many. ' ' Nothing
would make me alter or destroy this Drama — but nothing would
persuade me that it would be right to show it to a large and mixed
audience.
Playgoer
What then ?
Stage-director
A question. And for my part I am thoroughly
convinced that there will never be an end to our
journey. Attraction shall never cease for us;
that will never change, we shall ever be invited,
beckoned, impelled to move forward.
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' Shorthouse.
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SHAKESPEARE AS SCENOGBAPHER
' Hevesi.
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SHAKESPEARE AS SCENOGBAPHER
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268
MACBETH
his beauty or his God," and show how, underlying
King Lear, Macbeth and Hamlet, is " the murmur
of eternity on the horizon," ^ and he will be ful-
filling the poet's intention instead of turning his
m.aiestic spirits into sepulchral-voiced gentlemen
with whitened faces and robes of gauze. , '.
1 Maeterlinck. ^ Hazlitt.
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MACBETH
MACBETH
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272
Macb. I've done the deed. Didst thou not hear a noise ?
Lady M. I heard the owl scream and the crickets cry.
Did not you speak }
Macb. "When?
Lady M. Now.
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^ BANQUO ^
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^ UNWIELDY MATERIAL ^
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^ 7A^ CONCLUSION ^
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MACBETH
But surely there is time for all these things. It will help some one,
if not myself, and it is surely still permitted to an artist to humour
his fancy now and then,
I have also made designs for five or six different kinds of theatre
buildings, and not m,erely designs but plans.
And I actually have the " impudence " to believe that these
theatres mil sooner or later all be tested by actual experiment. For
what else have I worked ?
SHAKESPEAEE'S PLAYS
HAMLET
for the people if ever an art was for the people, and
of the text.
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^ THE CENSOR ^
is lying at her feet, and you rob the character of
Hamlet of very much of its force. Ophelia, in-
stead of being a woman of intelligence, becomes an
early Victorian debutante; and Hamlet, instead of
being a man of his time and suggesting a period
which was more than a period of manners, becomes
a kind of preaching curate.
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OPE]Sr-AIE THEATRES
ACTORS ^
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ACTORS
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^ THE QUESTION ^
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SYMBOLISM
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o SYMBOLS
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