NME Originals Goth Sep 2006 Ebook
NME Originals Goth Sep 2006 Ebook
NME Originals Goth Sep 2006 Ebook
The Mission
Joy Division
SIOUXSIE &
THE BANSHEES
SISTERS
OF MERCY
All About Eve
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Contents
Chapter 1 1976-79
9-20
Chapter 2 1980
21-32
Chapter 3 1981
33-40
Chapter 4 1982
41-54
Chapter 5 1983
55-68
Chapter 6 1984
69-76
Chapter 7 1985
77-90
Chapter 8 1986
91-98
Chapter 9 1987
99-114
Chapter 10 1988
115-124
Chapter 11 1989
COVER SHOT: STEVE DOUBLE. THIS PAGE: DEREK RIDGERS
125-134
Chapter 12 1990-92
135-145
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Editors Letter
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MIKE MORTON
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three imaginary boys
THE LEGENDARY 1979 DEBUT ALBUM
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Chapter 1
1976-79
DEREK RIDGERS
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Bromley Contingent
Siouxsie &
The Banshees
100 Club, London MM, 2 October 1976, p26
I ts never the same at a Pistols Apart from Suzi, it wasnt Deliver us from
evil: Siouxsie, Steve
gig nowadays (in London, decided who would actually end
Havoc, Marco Pirroni
anyway) if what is known as up doing the 100 Club festival until and Sid Vicious at
the Bromley Contingent isnt there. the day. Everyone thought though the 100 Club
This inseparable unit is Steve (21), that theyd carry out their much-
Bill (22) and Simon (19) he sells hot advertised plan to sing Goldnger. had one rehearsal. And a mature gent
dogs off a mobile stand during the It was not to be. At the last called Marco was the lead guitarist.
day raspberry-haired Debbie and moment, in an orgy of rock The prayer begins. Its a wild
Suzi [sic], of Suzi & The Banshees. iconoclasm, they decided on The improvisation, a bizarre stage fantasy
They rst heard the Pistols at their Lords Prayer spiced with the most acted out for real. The sound is what
local tech in January and theyve ridiculous rock songs ever written. youd expect from, er, novices.
been faithful followers ever since. Two-tone Steve (his hair is black But Sid, with miraculous
They made the trip to Paris, in a on top, white at the sides) was on the command, starts his minimal thud
ropey old car, to see their heroes rst bass he picked up for the rst time and the beat doesnt uctuate from
overseas performance, and Siouxsie,
shocking in her semi-nudity, got
punched on the nose.
She is nothing if not m agnicent.
The Lords Prayer begins. Its wild wonders how much more it can take.
Twenty minutes later, on the nod
Her short hair, which she sweeps in
great waves over her head, is streaked
a bizarre stage fantasy acted out for real from Marco, Sid just stops.
The enthusiastic cheering is
with red, like ames. Shell wear the night before. Sid Vicious, Johnny the start to the nish of the, er, set. just recognition of their success.
black plastic non-existent bras, one Rottens friend and inventor of the Against this knobbly sound, Siouxsie, If the punk rock scene has anything
mesh and one rubber stocking, and pogo dance, was on drums. He has with the grace of a redeemed ghoul, to offer then its the opportunity
suspender belts (various colours), ries the senses with an unnerving, for anyone who wants to get up
all covered by a polka-dotted, screeching recital of Twist And and experience the reality of their
transparent plastic mac. Shout and Knocking On Heavens wildest, stage-struck dreams. The
Over the weeks the Bromley Door. Sids smile ickers. Marco, bar-ies are horried.
Contingents parade of inventive his guitar feeding back, rolls up his God, it was awful, says Howard
dress (its rarely the same two weeks sleeves, and two-tone Steve two- Thompson, an A&R man from Island.
running) has set the fashion pace of tones. But Suzi is not interested in contracts.
the scene. It was only a matter of time The audience, enjoying the bands The ending was a mistake, she
before they took their street theatre nerve and audacity, eggs them on, says. I thought wed go on until they
to the stage. gets bored, has a laugh, and then pulled us off.
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This is Siouxsie
& The Banshees.
They are
patient.
They will win.
In the end.
A World Domination By 1984 Special
by Paul Morley NME, 14 January 1978, p7
s
iouxsie is the frail-faced, tough-minded, Calm down and reect on a looking different, dancing
strange-light-in-her-eyes voice/ bewildering reputation. Its now around, on drums, PP
performer of Siouxsie & The Banshees. 15 months since the Banshees, Barnum on guitar. They were
When she was a little girl I was in a spirited, impulsive shot of unformulated, but intense.
very lonely. The few friends I had were gypsies. audience participation, went From there, the growth has
When I was eight I tried to commit suicide to get on stage at the 100 Club and been subdued and careful,
noticed by my parents. I used to do things like set their unique, shocking, PP Barnum left (hes now
fall on the oor upstairs so that theyd think Id honest precedent. Thats a dark, formed Heroes); Martin
fallen downstairs, and Id have bottles of pills in distant past, perhaps the only was brought in. The group,
my hands. Ive always felt on the outside, really. period that the Banshees have as would be expected, have
She, like the rest of the group, admits to being actually felt that they belonged touched controversy. Theres
a loner. They dont really like people. Their to something. A movement been a farcical fracas with the
reason for existing is to perform noise with that pressed self-destruct police, resulting in a 20 ne
meaning for people to share and benet from. early on, a movement whose for Siouxsie, and the infamous
They could be the last rock group. The only successful ones were, with odd spraying incident, Sign
rock group. They are not a rock group. Siouxsie & The Banshees.
They are twentieth century performers. No record deal, except the
Friday night at The Nashville. An
incongruously traditional venue, it would
When I was eight I tried to commit occasional futile one-off, and its only in
the last few months that they gelled as a
suicide to get noticed by my parents
DEREK RIDGERS, ADRIAN BOOT/URBANIMAGE.TV
seem, for the Banshees. Isnt anywhere? It considered, permanent group. And now?
is an occasion. Names/faces are scattered, Their development has happened away
perhaps admiring the path of individualism. exceptions, the shrewdest, the most adaptable from the subcultural acceleration. There is no
Wayne County, Billy Idol, Marianne Faithfull, to the business, as opposed to the most creative, rush. They are patient.
Jordan and on. It is a sell-out. People straggle challenging and committed. Now were starting to do interviews, weve
outside, hoping for admission. Some, absurdly, In March/April of 77 a new Banshees just begun to understand what were doing,
produce ve pound notes in vain attempts at appeared, playing their rst real gig at the Roxy, whereas before without doing interviews we
bribing the doorman. What is this? with Siouxsie singing, Steve on bass, Kenny never really thought about motives.
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The New Trend
DeAth Cult
For a group who leave such a huge question Whatever the reasons for their popularity, it emotion that comes up, youre not realising it.
mark after their work, it is hard for the Banshees exists, and their audience intuitively grasps the Emotion? Passion its just emotion full stop.
to take being so readily wrapped and dismissed fact that theyre not absorbing run-of-the-mill Theres no other words. Its just one thing.
in the rock press, often as either oh-a-girl, the- music/noise. It is unconventional in form, but no
future-is-female. Great. Next or ooh-Nazism- way inaccessible. Structured noise. Do they view If the emotions of the group have toughened/
nasty-destroy. Next. themselves as musicians? owered over the last few months, then so has
They had indeed been misinterpreted, though As non-musicians. Sound innovators. A their intensity as performers.
admittedly, as regards Nazism, as a result of comprehensible term? Its making different Now, we seem to have some sense of
their lack of forethought. They wore swastikas. sounds with what youve got. We go out of our direction. We havent just gone out and done
There were stiff-armed salutes. Their lushly way not to be musicians we dont rehearse every gig that weve been offered. The best things
subversive, brutally sensual words and the till our ngers bleed. We can play rocknroll, are those when you go down really badly but
rhythmic/anthemic noise they create to form an but we ignore it, shove it in a corner. We dont you know youve done a good set we dont
undoubted Teutonic heaviness didnt help. see ourselves in the same context as rocknroll really need audience approval were putting
But always with any sort of politics, which is groups. Were out on a limb. It is dangerous, but on a show for ourselves and if anyone wants to
why we havent got any, you get extremists, and it excites us, makes it worthwhile. take something from it its up to them. Were
once you get extremists you get people doing Visually, Siouxsie is harsh, asexual. She wears not going to impose anything on anyone. Its
great things and terrible things for every shorts/short skirts for freedom of movement. entertainment for some people but its not
following of some sort you get followers who She is nicknamed Android by the group. mainstream entertainment.
distort things.
And yet, despite all this, Siouxsie & The Banshees Siouxsie is harsh, asexual. She wears short skirts for
nd themselves in an almost enviable position.
Siouxsie is, according to the NME poll, the
fourteenth most popular female singer in the
freedom of movement. She is nicknamed Android
world. They hold the house record at the Vortex. Her make-up, which eerily transforms her The Banshees words are of a strange
They sold out The Nashville two nights running. nervous, wistful, pale face into the hard-lined language, derived from experience and
They have made no commitment sacrices, no clown-tragedian, is the one concession to the observation, chilling vignettes of minor
compromises, and they feel comfortable that audience. Her voice is staggered. No orthodox atrocities and gruesome indulgences, of
what theyre saying is necessary. uid melodies, but clipped, forced lines, sharply frustration, of unrequited love. From the dark
Things have to go on. Were trying to show falling and rising. side of life, grinning, perverted, subversive;
that it does not have to be pop-punk next, it She displays no exhaustion, euphoria and depression, vision and
doesnt have to be the same old rocknroll riffs. exhilaration, amusement, pessimism mysteriously co-exist. The truth
We dont like trends. We formed initially because frustration or any of those in ugliness. Striving to manufacture
we felt we had something of our own to say. other colourful sideshows some semblance of order, or
Is it this different way of doing things/saying that performers often nd in purposefulness, set against the
things/playing things that has attracted this themselves. In the early days there absurdity and pointlessness of life.
curious following? Or is it just hip to like them? was little nervousness when she Their realism is vital, snatches of
Are they the new trend? got on stage. Now, she gets everyday life exaggerated for effect:
Well, theres the girl thing theres a lot of very nervous. People live in a dreamworld.
people whove latched on to us because of the Maybe its because
because theyve understood things that arent theres a lot more emotion Their abrasive, uncompromising
there like being labelled Nazis many of the put into what were doing language, and the way that its
audience dont understand we probably dont now when you just get presented, is not of the type that is
understand ourselves completely. up there like we used to, the liable to entice record companies to
propose lucrative deals. The group
realises this is important.
(Right) Put your We want to become successful because
left leg in, your left
leg out: Sioux it would mean that people are confronting
invents the punk what were putting down on vinyl and
hokey-cokey paper but if we are, wed probably be
successful for the wrong reasons.
Every day theres a problem about
having to compromise everyday theres
a reporter wanting to interview just
Siouxsie, getting across that its a backing
band for Siouxsie. Its not that at all. Its
a four-piece band. In the end you have to
explain yourself in the most basic, moronic
way and that takes something away. Record
companies arent there to help a band
progress, thats bullshit. That theyre to make
money for themselves. They dont care if a
band falls by the wayside as long as theyve
made enough money out of them. We want
commitments from a record company so
that we can do what we want to do.
ADRIAN BOOT/DAVID MUSCROFT
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(L to r) Siouxsie,
John McKay,
Kenny Morris and
Steve Severin
Banshees included in their stage set Oh daddy please, pretty please, owering poesie (Amorphous Julie Burchill
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Where Will It End?
THE CURE
Three Imaginary Boys
(Fiction)
the desert). But nowhere is there anything truly with unsympathetic you know what the
adventurous. What The Cure have done here producers, but never song is about, says
is the equivalent of an album of Enid Blyton actually getting that elusive rst single release. Rob. It just happened that the main character
readings packaged as readings from Angela We thought wed be able to do all these in the book had killed an Arab, but it could have
Carter. No, its maybe not that awful-good. outrageous songs wed written, but all they been a Scandinavian or an English bloke.
Its just that in 1979 people shouldnt be wanted were really banal old rocknroll songs. With a John Peel session and more extensive
allowed to get away with things like this. Then they gave us the money to do our own London gigging on their immediate agenda, it
There are too many who do. Fatigue music. So demos. And of course they didnt like them. So remains to be seen whether or not The Cure can
transparent. So light and oh, how it nags. they tried putting us in the studio with one of retain their refreshing joie de vivre.
Paul Morley their soul producers, and that didnt work out Adrian Thrills
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1978 - 1979
Glitter meets The Velvet Underground album may bring once the delicate
relationship with environment is
altered, they may never produce
outsider themes: individuals caught guitar ambience. anything as good again.
in a trap they dimly perceive anger, The albums two aces are Insight Perhaps its time we all started
paranoia, alienation, feelings of and Shes Lost Control; here, facing the future. Where will it end?
thwarted power, and so on. Hardly nally, Gary Glitter meets the Velvet Jon Savage
pretty, but compulsive. Underground. Both rely on rock-
What gives Joy Division their hard echoed drumming and bass
edge is the taut danceability recorded well up to take the melody
of their faster songs, and the the guitar provides textural icing
dreamlike spell of their slower and thrust over the top. The formers
explorations. Both rely on the attractive, bouncing melody belies
tense, careful counterpoint of the lyrics: But I dont care any more/
bass (Peter Hook), drums (Stephen Ive lost the will to want more.
Morris) and guitar (Bernard Dickin); Shes Lost Control, remixed to
Ian Curtis expressive, confused emphasise guitar and percussion,
vocals croon deeply over recurring
musical patterns which themselves Facing the future:
mock any idea of escape. Stephen Morris, Ian
Live, he appears possessed Curtis, Bernard Dickin
and Peter Hook
by demons, dancing spastically
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Me In My Own World
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et me draw back the curtains on a
winter night last year. A midweek night
of no special signicance, save that Joy
Division had come marching into town.
It wasnt much of a welcome. It wasnt one of
those jam-packed little-league sell-outs where
you cant get in for the length of the guest list
and where breath is bated in anticipation of
something about to turn big. Nothing of the sort.
Down in the basement connes of a celebrated
Islington watering hole it was relaxed and cool.
In front of the stage, though, a gaggle of
a dozen or so modern boys staked out their
territory like there was some sort of conspiracy
afoot. Minions were dispatched to fetch the
pints. The space in front of the stage was
jealously guarded. Their muted green tribal
colours set them apart from the dowdy crowd.
They had come, heaven knows where from,
for Joy Division. Another Manchester Band. The
band that looks dead set to follow Buzzcocks out
of merely local and underground acclaim and
into the wider limelight at least judging by the
Take No
rapturous critical reaction to their rst album,
Unknown Pleasures.
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1979
Pleasures LP puts them at the top of the league. By Paul Rambali one. But we dont.
We dont want to get diluted, really, and
by staying at Factory were free to do what we
want. Theres no one restricting us or the music
high and faltering, not swarthy and assertive, or even the artwork and promotion. You get
At least, thats my interpretation. Joy Division and his shyness you would not guess from his bands that are given huge advances loans
arent giving anybody any clues. They dont agree onstage abandon. really but what do they spend it on? What is
with lyric sheets. Stephen Morris, the drummer who completed all that money going to get? Is it going to make
You get people who seem to think you should the foursome a few months after Ian joined, the music any better?
put your lyrics on so you can get your message lives, like Ian, in Maccleseld, and owns a huge Another good thing about it, says Stephen,
across, says bearded bass player, Peter Hook, record collection, partly inherited from his jazz from the heart, is if youve got some sort of
with obvious disdain. Weve said to people, enthusiast father: He took me to see Count frustration, something eating you, you can get it
Havent you ever been listening to a record Basie once So I took him to see Hawkwind. He out just by playing.
where youve been singing a certain line and was getting all dressed up and I had to explain The thing is, if youve got a brain, explains
when you nd what it really is you feel let down? that, no Dad, its not that sort of concert Peter, obviously you want to do something with
But they just wont admit that at all. They still He bought his rst drum kit by chopping up your life, or whatever. Im sure a lot of people feel
wanted to know what our lyrics were about. the furniture in his house to sell as rewood. like that. Now that weve got this, we dont.
Dont you think its wrong to pin somebody Which leaves only Bernard Albrecht, who Ian: When I was about 15 or 16 at school, I
down like that? Our lyrics may mean something plays guitar, and went to school with Hook. He used to talk with me mates and wed say, Right.
completely different to every single individual. is astute and eager to explain himself. As soon as we leave well be down in London,
Why not write gibberish then? On a variation I dont like a lot of music, he admits, but doing something nobody else is doing. Then
of the monkey-and-typewriter principle itll the music I do like I get more out of than from I used to work in a factory, and I was happy
mean something to someone sooner or later.
The songs mean something personal to us,
but thats not the point. Its like saying, What did You get back to the rehearsal room, and theres just
Max Escher mean when he did that painting?
He points to a giant print of one of Eschers
typical perspective puzzles that hangs on the
the four of us. You get your instrument and youre free
wall of Manchesters Central Sound Studio, anything else in life. I want to put the feeling that because I could daydream all day. All I had to do
where we are now located. He might just say, I get out of music back into music as well. was push this wagon up and down. But I didnt
I was pissed. We dont want to say anything. When we started off none of us could play. have to think. I could think about the weekend,
We dont want to inuence people. We dont But each time we go one step forward and that imagine what I was going to spend me money on,
want people to know what we think. draws you on. Its just a really good feeling. I which LP I was going to buy You can live in
think thats why a lot of people get disillusioned, your own little world.
Ian, who writes the lyrics, broadly speaking cos, like, the music dries up. Too true. But whichever world you choose to
PENNIE SMITH
shares these views. He is off stage the virtual Its relatively easy to trace the stealthy progress live in the chances are itll soon coincide with
opposite of what he is on. His speaking voice is Joy Division have made from their aggressive, Joy Divisions. Theyre here to stay.
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Trouble At The Top
practically, all this means: listen before you buy. ten-minute version of The Lords Prayer. should be checked locally. Tonights Bradford
Jon Savage Severin told MM on Monday that while he and show has been postponed until 24 September.
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www.wychwood.co.uk
The legendary Hobgoblin beer is the per fect potion for celebrating All Hallows Eve. Available from
all good supermarkets and of f-licences, its enough to scare the taste buds of f any lagerboy.
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Enfants Terribles
JOY DIVISION
less limbo because their music
was too near the edge, then you
guitar motif, descending alone.
Then those vocals taut, terse,
SIOUXSIE &
An Ideal For Living must spend a lot of your time tense intonation, a voice like that THE BANSHEES
(Enigma) going round walking into walls. feeling you get watching the faces Playground Twist
Yet more promising new music The Banshees have fans, lots of on the workaday tube ride after (Polydor)
from Manchester. Joy Division them, and no record company stepping out at dawn for the third If Ingmar Bergman produced
were called Warsaw until they worth its salt would pass up the time without sleep. records, they might sound like
recorded this EP last November, chance to sell them records. Standing on the beach/With this. The listener is immediately
and it was under that name that And what about releasing a gun in my hand/Staring at the engulfed in a maelstrom of
I saw them at the Electric Circus a record themselves? Dont sea/Staring at the sand/Staring whirling sound punctuated by
the month before (theyve made they know the old mass access down the barrel at the Arab on the ominous tolling of church
it on to the new Virgin album argument hardly applies any the ground/Can see his open bells, phased guitars, thundering
commemorating the Circus last more? But here it is, a brash, mouth/ But I hear no sound/Im percussion, a surreal alto sax and
weekend). This has the familiar delirious two-chord triumph alive/Im dead/Im the stranger/ the wail of Siouxsies voice. It
rough-hewn nature of home- that I would never have thought Killing an Arab. demands to be played repeatedly
produced records but theyre no them capable of, being not in the And racism has got nothing to at threshold-of-pain volume to
mere drone-vendors there are least enamoured of their facile do with it. elicit its full nightmarish quality.
a lot of good ideas here, and they attempts at creating radical music. Tony Parsons Roy Carr
could be a very interesting band Hong Kong Garden, a long-
by now, seven months on. time stage favourite, is a bright,
Chris Brazier vivid narrative, something like
snapshots from the window of a
speeding Japanese train, power-
charged by the most original,
intoxicating guitar playing Ive
heard in a long, long time.
Would you believe its going
to be played on the radio? Would
you believe Siouxsie on Top Of The
Pops? Would you believe not one
mention of Blondie oops.
Paul Rambali MM, 30 June 1979, p31 NME, 17 November 1979, p25
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1980
DEREK RIDGERS
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The New Pink Floyd?
Joy Division
University Of London
NME, 16 February 1980, p55
j
Simply the First Division
oy Division at the University
of London was a sell-out.
music. As Richard Jobson said,
Divisions music is genuinely
nightmares, clearly drawn, potent
and personal. But Joy Divisions
These new songs show that
Divisions music is as natural as
The guest list was huge. violent, and its the violence of dreams are the inescapable places PiLs, not held down by the grey
Their impact was substantial. beauty rooted in beastly desire, the where we live. Its all suggestion hands of limitation or expectation.
Seeing Joy Division, if you violence of breakdown, inhibition, rather than direction or dogma. Joy Division are still coming up
are properly tuned, is a jarring failure, fatalism Joy Division sped through with new ways to alter the shape,
experience. The music keeps It could be vanity, it could be their early songs with intensity emphasis and texture of their
coming, trenchant, serene, impatience, even nervousness, of feeling and concentration. music. The new songs are as
steady, hard, almost an orgiastic but during a Joy Division set, The group pointedly proved that organised, hostile and spacious
celebration of the fact that Joy as the last set, but theres all-
Division have arrived at a noise and
form that is distinctive, instinctive
and immeasurably dynamic. The
Their songs are desperate nightmares, round intensication, further
emphasis on the lead bass and
comical trapped-buttery apping dilemmas, images that are Transmission or Disorder or Curtis hugging a white guitar up
the only real stage movement, primitive and anxious. Joy Division name your favourite) and these to his chest but rarely using it.
a visual representation of the are a powerful act of make-believe, new songs give no suggestion of The songs mobility and uidity
struggle inherent in Divisions their songs like desperate bits of Division stagnation. shows how much potential there
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THE CURE
Seventeen Seconds
(Fiction)
For a group as
young as The Cure,
it seems amazing
that they have
covered so much
territory in such a
brief time.
Its impossible
to locate one
continuous
thread linking works as dramatically
opposed as their solemn debut 45 Killing
An Arab, the classic single Boys Dont Cry,
and now the oblique, stilted soundtracks
that populate Seventeen Seconds.
Only one factor remains constant:
Robert Smiths pleading whine of a
voice and (Boys Dont Cry excepted) his
dependence upon keeping up a shield of
often mischievous distance.
After Boys Dont Cry (and its
commercial failure), Smith regrouped with
a keyboard player, one Matthieu Hartley,
taking on many of the textural chores that
Smiths guitar had previously covered.
A brief, pensive keyboard exercise very
much in the mould of Brian Enos Through
Hollow Lands entitled A Reection
opens Seventeen Seconds, setting
the mood. Play For Today builds on its
predecessor: keyboard notes and sombre
electric guitar touches act as a prelude
for an odd, mysterious piece of music
that aims to haunt through extensive
use of a stock pulse-beat overladen with
brush-strokes of guitar, bass and synth,
while Smiths vocals hang limply in the
mix. You either nd yourself drawn into
the landscape created or else you sit there
is in the simple contrasting and like a dislocated and depraved Joy Divisions music is waiting for a sudden jolt, an acceleration.
connecting of instruments that improvement upon Bowies physical and lucid, music about This mode of musical arrangement
Division use. Its a staggeringly Heroes. So impressive. uncontrollable emotions, nds its fullest realisation in the single A
melodic and momentous piece. Part of Joy Divisions success impulses, prejudices, fears. The Forest yet the scenario, once created,
For Isolation they have the is the breadth and certainty of the group have turned inarticulacy soon sounds limp, devoid of any tension
same instrumentation, but its reactions they inspire. For this into concrete impressions of the or mystery. Again, one keeps waiting for a
more withdrawn and estranged; performance there were three deepest, most degenerate desires. sudden lift-off, yet the song just lies there
a song they wrote only days obvious ones: love, penetration Its simple music, but not twitching occasionally. Its a symptom
before that reveals Numan and and stimulation is one all in simple-minded; cryptic but not throughout Seventeen Seconds.
Foxx as true fools. The full itself, and if I wasnt tied down impenetrable. As Danny Baker The album occupies a midway land
introduction of synthesizer has by language and responsibility I said, Joy Division are due some where much is insinuated but nothing is
not damaged the coherence and could attempt to explain. Simple sort of backlash, but hes not the truly delivered. It seems caught in that
balance of the music in any way. frustration; that the group didnt one to do it. If the group had very sense of distance that Smith seems
It simply increases the amount of lay out for selsh delectation shown the slightest indication of so obsessive about keeping up.
mood, atmosphere, ephemeral their eloquent standards. How slackening I would have attacked. To many, Seventeen Seconds may
terror Division are capable ironical! And old-fashioned But they are now better than they seem a valid progression. I however nd
of achieving. The encore is a derision. A dissenter behind me, have ever been. Joy Division will it depressingly regressive. Even so, I await
condent, compelling, utterly with a spiteful snort, reckoned Joy tear you apart. Still. their next move with great interest.
withdrawn ballad, something Division are the new Pink Floyd. Paul Morley Nick Kent
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Southern DeAth
Something so good
Cult
unique. Joy Division are not Morris and Hook hold down the
merely a hip new wave group on backbeat with precision and power
a fashionable independent label.
Oh no! they were the absolute opposite and Albrecht picks out the purest
improvised guitar solos.
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Just Cant Function No More
The guitarist takes over on synthesizer for so much unconstrained emotion. Ians leaving and recorded a thrilling single for Factory called
the two closers, the translucent Isolation and gives his words and his images a nal desperate, Transmission.
the serene Decades, a track, like the awesome sad edge of clarity. Its a perverse way for Joy They quietly established their independence;
Atmosphere, that provides a sharp counterpoint Division to get their deserved attention. prolically and ambitiously expanded upon their
to the more physical hard rock that comprises Our memories add to the myth. Ian Curtis already considerable originality; unpretentiously
most of their set. own myths, the myths he dragged up from the discovered the capacity there is in rock for truly
Curtis, however, stumbles from the stage deep and tuned to our reality, inspire it. traumatic and radical developments. They played
before the end of the song, totally exhausted and The myth gets stronger we might as well get scores of gigs, but never made it seem like they
obviously showing signs of strain. The band, on with it. Ian would love this myth. Ian Curtis were merely promoting product. They created
despite demands for more, return for only a was young, but he had already seen the depths. their own pace. They made it look so easy. It
sharp one-song encore, a revamped version of His death is a waste, but he had already given us being something like a total lack of compromise.
the 1978 Factory Sampler track Digital more than we dare hope from anyone. Only the cruellest blow could shatter Joy
We were looking towards him. Divisions brilliant development. Really, they
It doesnt really need saying, but Ian Curtis was And he was no longer there. show what is possible. They never dared wonder
highly emotional, deeply romantic and acutely aloud what effect they were having. They never
sensitive. It was these qualities, plus an irrational Joy Division played their rst gig at the Electric asked for special treatment. They never shouted
willingness to take the blame, combined with Circus supporting Buzzcocks and Penetration in for attention, they just got on with the job.
a set of problems its not relevant to reveal, May 1977. Their name was then Warsaw, having Joy Divisions powerful work will naturally
that made him decide to leave us. A change of rejected the Pete Shelley suggestion of Stiff live on. The name Joy Division will not be used
scenery. For him, perhaps, freedom. Kittens. The name Warsaw was derived from by Hook, Albrecht and Morris. The group
On Saturday 17 May, four days before Joy Warszawa, a song on Bowies Low. had decided a long while back that if any one
Division were to y to America, he had visited Warsaw were undistinguished, but there was of the quartet should, for whatever reason, in
his old house in Maccleseld to watch the a great belief and romance guiding them. Slowly, whatever way, depart, the rest would, in cautious
televised lm Stroszek by his favourite director, the noises formed. They recorded a four-track recognition of the fact they were making
Herzog. Hours later, in the early hours of the single, An Ideal For Living, and planned to something special, change the name of the group.
Sunday morning, he hung himself. He was 23. release the EP using their new name Joy Division There are no set plans for the future, but it
That a myth will develop is inevitable, if only Joy Division being the prostitutes wing of must be said that Ian Curtis was not the major
because of the type of group Joy Division seemed a concentration camp. Poor sound quality force in the group. He wrote the words and
to be, the passions they arouse. Ian Curtis postponed the release and even when it was put offered contributions to the musical make-up.
words are vivid and dramatic. They omit links out, it created no stir, although something was Hook and Albrecht wrote the melodies, Morris
and open up perspectives; they are set deep in obviously forming. composed the rhythms. Curtis was a dazzling
untamed, unfenced darkness. He confronted
himself with ultimate realities.
However its written, this piece contributes Ian Curtis was young, but he had seen the
depths. He gave us more than we dared hope
to the myth. Things need to be said, things that
would have been said anyway, without perhaps
In 1978 Joy Division met their focus, but the music is unique in itself. Each
manager Rob Gretton. Producer contribution was equal.
Martin Zero Hannett took an
active interest in the group, and The impact of Joy Division can only grow
he and Gretton became fth and stronger. Joy Division can not clean away the
sixth members. trivia and delusion of mass-based rock music,
Joy Division had a quarter of but they throw a shadow over it all.
the Factory Sampler, contributing They emphasise the vanity and vulgarity
two songs, the rst indication of the rock music so recklessly publicised and
that Joy Division had a special gloried by industry and media, the plain
understanding. But still, the mundanity of the majority of pop, and their
completeness and strength of their own complete lack of conceit or ego indicates
rst LP, Unknown Pleasures, the uselessness of pretending rock is some sort of
was unnerving. The group had weapon of change. The very best rock is part of
discovered their own potential. a ght, a widespread perception, something that
They had quietly, effectively actively removes prejudice and restriction.
travelled from one extreme to the Rocks greatness is its emotional effect on
other. Every word counted, every the individual. Joy Divisions worth is immense
line had a chilling penetration. to every individual who does not resent their
Somewhere between An Ideal For strange awareness. The struggle and the
Living and the few months later conict never ceases. There is no real safety, no
when Unknown Pleasures was consolation, and often the evil, futile boundaries
recorded, a radical transformation of existence become too claustrophobic.
had taken place. Everything had Ian Curtis decided to leave us, and yet he
fallen into place. leaves words of such strength they urge us to
An audience began to look ght, seek and reconcile. Joy Division will not
their way, but Joy Division never change the world. But there is value; there has
let go. They relished Factorys to be. The effect of Joy Division, the unknown
uncomplicated exibility, pleasures each individual fully tuned into Joy
KEVIN CUMMINS/IDOLS
contributing two extra songs from the Division discovers, can only be guessed at. But
Ian Curtis: the
myth grows Unknown Pleasures session to Fasts the moods and the insight must inspire us, excite
stronger Earcom 2, recording two new songs us, challenge us
for French label Sordide Sentimentale The value of Joy Division is the value of love.
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h
ere we go again.
I walk into The Cures
dressing room for the
night. I always hate
these sort of entrances. The four
members of The Cure, stood
among empty guitar cases,
practice amps, lager cans, dead
chairs, look limp and vacant. I slip
on my best brave face. Someone
rushes off to get me a Cure T-shirt,
something Ill be happy to wear.
Somebody else hands me a can of
lager, something I force myself to
swallow. Robert Smith is nearest to
me as I hover by the open door.
Hello, he says amiably, are
you nervous? Yes, I say through
a narrow throat, I always am. He
grins gooshly. I grin gooshly.
Last year, on the night of the
General Election, I reviewed-
destroyed The Cures rst LP
Three Imaginary Boys, at rst
spluttering at what I saw as a
queasy blend of arrogance and
austerity, then growing steadily
annoyed at what I fantasised as a
grand conspiracy of pompous pop
people and relentlessly hateful
politicians. I saw Three Imaginary
Boys as a conceited scrapbook
with a bitter lack of internal
coherence. Wrapped up in dinky
pinkness, with symbols instead
of titles, it was too self-conscious,
and tted in a place where talk of
innovation and stimulation was
all pose, no action, and where the
next mask was more important
than the next song. I thought The
Cure were horrible.
I listened to that LP three
times, says Robert Smith, and
murmurs in assent when I mention
that the second LP Seventeen
Seconds is much more soulful and
direct. The rst LP in a lot of ways
was like a compilation, it didnt
have a lot to do with what we were
doing even at the time.
At that time Robert Smith
felt hurt by my antagonism. He
immediately wrote me a note,
sternly and hilariously parodying
my own indulgent word-play,
pissing all over it. The Cure sang
a song about the review during a
Peel session. The incident got silly.
Then quickly forgotten. When we
meet, I turn up deeply in love with
Seventeen Seconds and Robert
Smith doesnt hate me at all.
Smith is soft where I imagined
he would be hard. Hes not a big
softie. Hes always on a ne line
between agitation and boredom,
and such a balance turns out
The Cure Mk II: (l to r)
Lol Tolhurst, Mathieu faintly, deviously charming. Hes
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DAYS OF WINE
Thats elevating musicians to
an unfair status.
This background and his
hardening pubby experience
developed and disciplined
Smiths beautifully polished and
adventurous guitar a personal
and delicious post-Hendrix
POSES
technique wasted on the rst
AND
LP but exquisitely exploited for
Seventeen Seconds. (Similarly his
obsessive, compelling vocals.)
It was automatic for Smith to
play on a stage with friends, for
himself, with the audience only
half-welcome. It was difcult for
Smith to express himself. There
was so much he wanted to say, but
it was almost as if he didnt want
anyone to hear his words.
I dont know. Ive always
Ysee it wasnt that The Cure ever had a non-image, they just didnt have written things down ever since I
could remember. Mainly because
sometimes I get really angry. Ive
an image, right? Nothing terribly wrong about that, is there? Well... got a really violent temper but its
not physical because I dont think
Paul Morley shares a bottle and begins to understand I should vent my frustrations and
depressions on anybody else. I
dont throw tantrums or anything
of vision. Hes never quite sure Smith realises that The Cure expect respect, they want their like that, so rather than smash the
what to say. Does he take himself dont t into the rude rock gig, but privacy. Seventeen Seconds is a room up I write things down. Its a
seriously? he likes to play. record of exceptional quality. Brief release. But I havent got over the
I do take myself seriously but Its very selsh when I go on and wistful. The Cure leave it there idea of separating communicating
theres a point beyond which you stage. It matters what the audience as much as they are able. from preaching. My words are
become a comic gure. thinks, but I write songs for myself. I dont think that we have any mainly about me, how I feel,
Robert Smith is a songwriter Its very narrow-minded. And we right to an audience. I dont think theyre not about world situations
who wrote songs of enough dont present shows. We dont leap that just because we make records and alternatives.
individuality and attraction to about on stage. We could make it people should listen, or if we play The Cure dispensed with most
warrant interest, who got hooked visual and everything but were they should come. If we werent of their versions. They developed
into the record business and then not like that naturally so why selling records Id still be playing originals. A debut single, Killing
had to start wondering about should we? Id prefer it if we really in a pub or something, which I was An Arab, caused a bit of alarm;
justication, morals, compromise. impressed a lot of people wholl like a year before we got a recording Robert Smith was pulled into
Robert Smith cannot believe The us for a long time rather than give contract. Just because I enjoy it. Its the ow before hed even tested it
Fuss: I still dont feel comfortable someone a good night out wholl as simple as that. Id rather be on out. Fiction signed them. Three
holding a guitar. Smith has the forget it next week. stage than doing anything else. Imaginary Boys was pinned
look of the perpetually puzzled. He What does he mean by impress? together. But the three-piece Cure
stutters, he blunders he wonders Just to show I dunno that The Cure story is a blur. It started was destined not to last long. The
what the hell its all about, this weve got something to offer. in pubs, now its reached clubs and Siouxsie & The Banshees bust-up
rock thing. I sometimes think I He chuckles. Hell want to telly, and it will end quietly. They accelerated fate. The Cure were
might be in someone elses idea of change that later. started as a three-piece in 1977: supporting them.
heaven, he says with grisly irony. Kenny and John left the
In the early hours. Were soul-deep I still dont feel comfortable holding a Banshees. Budgie played for
Kenny. Robert played for
into bottles of red wine, muttering John, using his superior guitar
about the state of the art, the guitar. Sometimes I think I might be in temperament to adapt perfectly to
idleness and extravagance of the the Banshee shapes. For that tour
shady rock heroes.
A Cure live set of the moment is
someone elses idea of heaven he played two shows a night. The
Cure barely survived.
nothing like the sort of putreed The Cure form part of a new Smith, drummer Lol Tolhurst and It just became like a job. Id
and obsolete rocknroll gig a lot of realism in a part of rock that wont bassist Michael Dempsey. They known Lol since I was six, but not
people think is the only way. Their take over but wont disappear. played other peoples songs, it was Michael, and the differences were
new songs sound faded and lonely, Rock that isnt trapped in a maze all for fun and fun was all it was. between him and me. I found
rely on touch and quietness. They of mirrors, that isnt lost and Robert Smith was part of a very on the Banshees tour that I was
dont nag at you or remove your ignoble in a wasteland of dead musical family. He recalls that enjoying it more playing with the
independence. They rouse your pride and rigid beliefs. The Cure there was always an instrument in Banshees than The Cure. Thats
curiosity rather than remove it. dont demand everyone be like the house, always people playing what really made the decision. Lol
These songs are a slight chill, not a them, and their expectations are music. At ve he walking around felt the same way, Michael wasnt
right charge. A build-up of gloom, moderate. The space to breathe, hitting guitars. Just making noises. criticising or joining in on any
shadows, broken bits of dreams decent access to recording and I dont know if I believe that sort of level. We were sticking to
and expectations, not guaranteed releasing, a modest listening thing about some people being the same set night after night and
to supply the good night out. level. The Cure want to exist, they born musicians and some not. the whole thing was getting like
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maybe thats the beauty. a t of depression. The whole thing of doing Top Of me. If I let that worry me along with everything else
Paulo Hewitt The Pops, of selling it, the whole shop window thing, Id crack up before Im going to anyway.
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A
trendy disco in was still quiet. moans and ails bereft of even the
the centre of an
Oxford shopping
Bauhaus are consistently Bauhaus never
fail to alienate
most cursory contour of interest, a
record which deserves all the damning
precinct seemed an
incongruous place for
a band like Bauhaus to
challenging, perplexing and elating certain sections
of their audience,
but such is the lot
adjectives usually levelled at grim-faced
modernists. Its doom for dooms sake.
If nothing else, this sheds some
play on the opening night of their arrogant features and with the of a band who are consistently light on the punk/moderne crossover
British tour. But with this lot rest of the band hovering in the challenging, perplexing and audience, who, in their taste for excessive
nothing is predictable. half-light, all was forgiven. elating. Enigmas indeed! tribal plumage and dismal, doom-laden
An extremely bizarre but From the buzzing opening Gill Smith music, are more closely related to the
intricate lm served as a support, heavy metal hordes than theyd like to
and after much shufing around believe. And Bauhaus are nothing more
with screens, the band emerged than a hip Black Sabbath. Really.
from the crowd and walked Personally, I couldnt give a toss, not
on stage. Talk about lack of feeling much afnity with many other
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Bye CureBlackheads
abuse. When it comes to carrying and highly evocative scenarios This single, a follow-up to the free
grudges, Sweet Sioux makes went uncredited, as critics tried exi-disc which some baddies in NME, 22 November 1980, p18
Madams Thatcher and Ghandi instead to pinpoint the band record shops have been selling,
look like Sisters of Mercy.
Roy Carr
sociologically. A Forest is a good
example, which gets better with
has been invested with sad
signicance after singer Ian Curtis
SIOUXSIE &
age: Smiths dry, lost vocal tells of tragic suicide. THE BANSHEES
Joy Division were (and may Israel
remain) an innovative and (Polydor)
put it out as an ofcial release. these days all I can see in their
Severin and It features a plaintive bassline image is a twee pose.
Sioux: hell and sparse drumbeats as Ian Max Bell
hath no fury
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romantic desire for action. the whole. Its not all a weeping Theres not a lot here you can
There is nothing earthy about over lost pleasures, neither is it stuff carelessly into the drawer
Banshee music. Their fourth LP a thanksgiving. Banshee words labelled fun. Just check the
thus far, their second-best is a are an effective way to reject the song titles The Holy Hour,
FIN COSTELLO/REDFERNS/M BRITTON
gliding, comfortless delivery of self- prosaic, to avoid the vulgar, and The Funeral Party, The
distrust, infatuation and fetishism. the grouping of the words, the Drowning Man. Not the stuff
Juju has an infernal quality: melodramatic undercurrents Mrs Mills albums are made of. The Cure: touring
nothing majestic or mysterious but enable the glorious Sioux to camp But its impressive. The the great morgues
of Europe
a kind of unawed unworldliness. The and exult with priceless poise. professional genre detective,
mistake is to imagine that Banshee Side Ones highlights: confronted by the evidence
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Pew, what
a scorcher:
bassist Tracy
with Nick Cave
BAUHAUS
Mask
(Beggars Banquet)
Bauhaus, though
I loathe to admit
it, are about to
be big.
The signs
are all there.
An inevitable
commercial dog-end of post-Joy Division
doom, theyve wedded that image-
conscious, pretentious inner soul-searching
to Bowies glib theatricality and come up
crowd-pleasing trumps. At Bingley they
were showbiz magnicent.
In The Flat Field, their last long-player,
sold well on sub-Banshees pseudo-religion
and a splash of Cramps Hammer horror
alone. Mask (an apt name very Siouxsie)
is a suitably showy, hollow successor a
souvenir of their crass live show; all shock
no substance.
In the face of outmoded criteria like NME, 12 September 1981, p50
originality, having something to say, etc,
Bauhaus are a joke; so old-hat Iggy-bound
they shouldnt exist. But with the current
accent on imitative image over anything
else, Murphy just MUST be an idol.
The Birthday
Africa Centre, London
Party
Teen mags will lap up his muscular
suntan and false aggression despite
the patent unlistenability of just about
A
strange venue for
everything theyve ever recorded except
the Young Americans-cloned Kick In
The Eye (re-recorded here).
a strange group.
Crammed into a hall
Its like standing too close to a firework
Bauhaus are a soulless stance, a pathetic
excuse for idolatry in an era when heroes
shouldnt exist but seem to be so badly
that is more used to hearing
discussions on African culture,
politics and poetry are a
dangerous but compulsive
Whatever reservations normal rock concerns of sex,
longed for. Adam & The Ants and The motley collection of after- I have about their Prayers sadism and sacrice.
Human League all better watch out Mask dark dancers, anticipating the On Fire LP are immediately Yet despite their apparent
may not yield any potentially massive hit arrival of a group who have dispelled by their dynamic strangeness, The Birthday
singles but the leather-jacketed hordes been compared to The Pop performance. There is Party are a lot of fun. They give
are eager and waiting. Group and The Cramps. wildness in the air, a feral so totally in performance that
The impression and atmosphere of Welcome to The Birthday psychosis that owes as much to questions of approachability
Mask counts today more than anybody Party. Forty-ve minutes of the modern notion of paranoia and involvement go ying
elses struggling commitment a Glitter sheer hell. as it does to a prehistoric, out of the window. Their
Band for post-punk depressives. Its appeal Nick Cave does indeed look animal instinct of survival. unrestrained enjoyment in
is obvious: cosmic electronics, ethereal sax, like a skinny Lux Interior as Caves voice seems to come playing creates a positively
tribal drums, scratch-unfocussed guitar he introduces the group, an from somewhere else; its organic atmosphere a
and eerie, effective/affected vocals a odd assortment of Australian hard to believe his slender steaming jungle in which you
pantomime pretence of communication. reptiles in checked shirts frame can accommodate the can laugh yourself silly or be
Bauhaus are an unstoppable surge and the occasional Stetson. relentless howl that screeches, scared to death.
towards the sham/glam mid-70s. Mask, Their sound bursts from the screams and throbs its way The Birthday Party are
more than Spandau, more than Rondo, tiny stage like a primordial around the sexual/surrealistic genuine (ab)originals.
takes the stylistic route to success by the beast shedding the chains of lyrics. Obsessions scuttle, Watching them is a bit like
short and curlies and aunts it as a virtue. convention a nightmarish slither and crawl through the standing too close to a rework
Top Ten. I hate it. Gothic brew of Beefheartian songs like so many nasty little dangerous but compulsive.
Steve Sutherland wordplay and nerve-jangling creatures insects, sh, bugs Light blue touch paper and
TOM SHEEHAN
guitars stirred into a bubbling and bats are predominant stand near.
rhythmic broth. images reinterpreting the Neil Norman
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Sometimes pleasure A Manhattan melodrama starring The Birthday Party, by Barney Hoskyns
i
ts a chill, exposed night in New York The management is not amused. After the intellect to a raw power, that original sin which
City. The East Coast has just recovered second song, Zoo-Music Girl, someones Iggy Stooge so rightly perceived as Laughing at
from a week of torrential rain, and the climbing on the stage and telling them their time you and me
winds sweeping up the islands avenues is up. They thunder into one last, outrageous But the Birthday Party do not suffer from
from Battery Park to the Bronx threaten more. exhibition of carnal mayhem and disappear. delusions of grandeur.
But the show must go on, and at a swanky This little scenario is roughly what The I mean fuck it, says Nick Cave, what were
disco in Union Square called the Underground Birthday Party call a really great gig. I mean, trying to do is the biggest musical clich in the
its only just beginning. Strutting their stuff to how degenerate can you get? world. Its just that some people forget the clich.
English imports like Planet Earth and Dont Say Can you imagine Echo & The Bunnymen trying
Thats Just For White Boys are second division In this climate of cold design and concealed to let themselves go?
preppies and neat executives from Hoboken. despair, The Birthday Party take the concept
They are trying to get their dates drunk. of stage performance about as far as you
The night is owing by pretty amorphously are likely to see it go. Live, the songs of Nick
when suddenly, at one oclock, the lights dim and Cave and Rowland Howard are driven to an
the sound dies. Everyone looks round; without emotional edge where pain and pleasure fuse
the disco their plans are ruined. Their faces drop. in cathartic madness for the performer
Onto the stage are climbing ve undesirable and dithyrambic joy for the
aliens. One, festooned in split-crotch gold- audience. Their concerts
lam drainpipes, his bruised features twitching are feasts of energy, chaotic
through black ames of hair, appears to be the spectacles which break the
singer. Another, strapping on a bass guitar like a surface of art and carry
giant dildo, sports a shnet vest, a Stetson, and sound and lyric to ultimate
the sort of moustache you might cultivate for violence. The Birthday
hustling some meat on Christopher Street. Party in performance burst
Perhaps most disturbing of all, a kind of through the constrictions of
Roland S Howard.
WITH YOU BASTARDS? . . . WHATS THE Jelly and ice cream
MATTER? not pictured
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He sprawls across the bar, nding his drink. for that soapbox, toilet-roll politico. anus of culture. Not Del Shannon but Iggy Pop.
I think its really important to rely on clichs Pew: Our last two London gigs have been the Cave: The point is that the creative process
like Suicide did. Not that it sounds like a clich. best. Before that the audiences only lost control is not some fucking craft. WERE A LIVING
As a matter of fact I think King Ink is one of the when they were told to, like Pavlovian dogs. MUSICAL CLICHE.
best songs ever written. That song can become so Cave: Compared to the gigs in Australia,
intense it puts me on another planet, though especially in Sydney, theyre nothing. You The Birthday Party started life as The Boys Next
I dont think the recorded version is at all good. remember when that girl was slicing me up with Door. We went through a year in Australia
The record, as a cultural event, is a very a key, Tracy? In Australia, you really feel youre playing the most disgusting kind of shit. Like
limited concept. With the cover and everything, turning decent people into monsters. [their 1979 LP] Door, Door, Cave recalls.
it can be much more than just the music. Were not setting ourselves up as some We were a bunch of snivelling little poofs,
The Birthday Party have come to shake us kind of demonic force, its just that things are Pew interjects.
out of our inhibitions. They militate against the more successful when they become blind and So what happened?
sedative boundaries of Pop. unconscious. You feel anything could happen. Howard stares into his drink for an answer.
Cave: Theres a real need for an intelligent Is popular music culture an important thing? It was just a case of natural progression.
but aggressive group in London. All the Cave: When the history of rock music is Yeah, like the state of a persons mind before
treasured groups are just so softcore. written which, since its practically dead, will he drops acid to the trip itself. Tell us another.
At one time there was a real be soon itll just be remembered as a sordid Its the honest truth, he protests, things just
upsurge of new young groups, interruption of normality. got a little wilder, thats all.
like The Pop Group before Pew: Rock will be remembered as the Thats obvious. It was on the 1980 LP The
they sacriced the music Birthday Party that perennial inuences such
as the Stooges and Beefheart and more
recent ones like Pere Ubu and The Pop
Group began to coalesce in Caves
and Howards songwriting. The result
is unique and unmissable.
By this time, the group had been
so inspired by the weird sounds
imported from possible goldmines
abroad they decided it was time to leave.
Their sights naturally settled on England.
Cave clears his throat with an evil grin.
Coming to London has been one of the most
disillusioning experiences of my life. When we
arrived, we saw this package show at the Lyceum,
with Echo & The Bunnymen, A Certain Ratio,
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THE CURE
Primary
(Fiction) MM, 26 September 1981, p14
This is a triumphant return to The
Cures rushing, rhythmic roots THE CREATURES
after the limpid wanderings of the Mad Eyed Screamer/So
Seventeen Seconds album. Unreal/But Not Them/
Robert Smith has rediscovered Wild Thing/Thumb
the ne-tuning control installed (Polydor)
in his unusual musical sensibility, NME, 4 July 1981, P31 insensitivity by a band whove I hear the sound of distant
and as a result Primary is overcome my inherent distrust drums again. The Sandie Shaw
unbearably urgent, matching a BAUHAUS of Australians with a series of of yesterdays punk, Siouxsie
new-found sense of space with The Passion Of Lovers hugely entertaining interviews. Banshee delivers her usual
brilliantly focussed precision. (Beggars Banquet) Both tracks here wield similar atmospheric vocals over Budgies
Smiths propulsive guitar drone The desperation of losers characteristics brutal and bloody lonely percussion.
is punctuated by crashing waves Adrian Thrills amid a volley of drums Its spread over a double-45
of percussion, and his voice oats and arrogant bravado. soft-porn epic that includes a
yearningly over the top. The Birthday Party are the lame repeat of The Troggs nest
Its oddly like a more tightly kind of boys who bopped the two minutes and ten seconds.
reined U2, and is a far better teacher while the rest of the class Jane Birkin was steamier than this.
pretext for a national holiday than sniggered and played with their Ian Pye
the forthcoming Royal Wedding. geometry sets. They certainly
Adam Sweeting
SIOUXSIE &
THE BANSHEES
Arabian Nights
(Polydor)
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at the wall, and Im not sure were better than The Birthday Party. That
if its the wall or the ceiling, makes us pretty damn good.
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Nick The Stripper
on stage at the
Venue, London
So much mumbo-
jumbos been made
of adolescent art, of
pop or rock voicing
the vainglorious
views of each
new generation,
washing the sins
NME, 13 March 1982, p51 of the fathers (and
mothers) from the hands of the
kids, that its long been forgotten that the
The Birthday Party The venue, London real truth lies in tantrum.
Most lucrative noise is and always has
been made by (non) musicians old enough
T
to know better, but never prepared to admit
hings werent looking here rhythm is compressed that he possesses an almost or accept it. Its not a well-aimed kick against
bright. The Birthday to a disconcerting on-beat intimidating innocence. growing up and its values, but a blind sulk
Partys bassist, Tracy Pew, is stiffness and vocals to a mere This group is an explosion and shout about already being there. Pop is a
back home doing time on a gutteral rambling. The effect of sensuality and laughter at toddlers plea for selsh attention, a me, me,
labour farm, and his temporary is compulsive. Some of the the desensitised mediocrity me, me not an I told you so. Its mean and
replacement, Barry Adamson, earlier numbers still prove of our lives. They are our new its meaningless. And thats its great beauty.
had only had one rehearsal. troublesome, for theres no Rolling Stones, but holding The Birthday Party, more than most,
But all fears were promptly doubt that more than one back their proles in shadow, appreciate the perverse practicality of
allayed by a volley of intense of the groups arrangements in the penumbra of myth. In making a row. Theyre obnoxious, so much so
and hectic songs which reduced outstrip their current musical them jazz races with punk that they piss people off. Not only the clichd
most of the spectators to capabilities. Zoo-Music Girl, and rocknroll slips on funk, old fuddy-duddies and traditional church
speechlessness. Let us make for example, has grown too a collision of forms whose wardens, but also the hipsters and bofns
certain things clear from the shambolic for its own good. domain is lust suspended in the who fawn and dote over pop ash and fact.
start: The Birthday Party Chaos, however, is The timeless zone of excess bodily The Birthday Party are awful. Subversively
appal by revelling in the pain Birthday Partys speciality. exhumation and spiritual awful. Awfully great. Awesomely brilliant.
of artice the desperate With the stage in its normal disease. Here Jerry Lee Lewis Drunk On The Popes Blood is their second
drive of will to emotion state of disarray, bouncers and meets The Modern Dance, really BAD long-playing record. Recorded
through exhibition. Theirs is a stage-hands scrambling about and sex meets death. live at the Venue, it struggles in vain
genuinely ritualistic theatre of madly in pursuit of overturned Who else is using words to capture and/or castrate the ranting
frustration, a farrago of sound microphones and tripped so stridently as a musical confrontation of their stage act. Get involved
so visceral it can only produce wires, Nick Cave was at his medium of rhetoric? They are say something! Nick Cave screams while
gestures of exhaustion and most gloriously irresponsible. the religious conagration of Beefheart is brutally butchered behind.
despair. Some terrible void at So perfect a parody is he of melos itself. Back beyond basics, this is what punk
the heart of human energy has the rocknroll egomaniac Barney Hoskyns ought to be like angry and futile with
been reached here. nothing to say and barely the words to
On Friday night, the group express it. The critics turn pop into protest
revisited their surreal junkyard because that gives it a comforting logic, an
of forms and images with a aim and direction that renders it open to
higher intoxication than ever. sane comprehension. Sheer bloody-minded
That forlorn and shimmering pointlessness is too mad and too menacing.
ballad Shes Hit has taken on The Birthday Party are violently pointless.
added starkness and splendour, Thats why theyre important. Their 16
perfectly brought out on minutes of sheer hell is all ugly feedback.
this occasion by Adamsons Unlistenably listenable. Love it to death.
languorous bass. Lydia Lunchs unpleasant squawking on
Previously unheard were the other side is even more potent. I hate it. It
Dead Joe and Hamlet, two neither exasperates nor elevates. It irritates.
PETER ANDERSON
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All We Ever Wanted
NME, 20 March 1982, p24
Bauhaus:
Breaking down the
walls of art-ache
When we heard that you were going to interview us, we came up with two possibilities:
a) being physical violence, and b) being a reasoned discussion. We decided to plump for the latter,
but this doesnt mean that the former isnt in with a f ighting chance Victim: Paul Morley
e
xcerpts from a conversation: Number The days labourer: But because of the is received that you go over the top and the idea
Two weak knees anticipate the kiss? system that you operate within, a withdrawal or gets smothered by incidentals.
Murphy: by intending to provoke a vagueness tends to suggest that youre merely Jay: No its just theres a belief in the idea
us, maybe a reaction youll get will be one of trying to create a mystique, an enigma. that we have, a passionate belief, it really is
absolute anger and hurt. Murphy: Its not that if were going to Ash: Also, when were on stage, our feelings
Jay: You could have got your head kicked in try and label our work, which a lot of the time are concentrated into one hour its all
if we were Killing Joke. comes from our subconscious, it will be a wrong intensied and enlarged. Its all going into one
The days labourer: Ive been through this labelling. What we might say about one aspect hour, not one week or one lifetime. Its all got to
one (a similar situation) with Killing Joke. of what we do might be totally wrong because be condensed and so you put everything into it.
Murphy: I know we are not really sure ourselves. A lot of what
Jay: The initial reaction when we read your I do is totally spontaneous. It comes from my Additional remarks: One one little streak of
review and then heard that you were going to emotions and, uh, how can you grey that matched the wall.
interview us, we though how we were going to Jay: We believe in the beauty of an idea, Bauhaus are recording some new music at
approach it. We came up with two possibilities: without grinding it into the ground. If Morgan Studios in North London. The group
a) being physical violence, and b) being a something is working, no matter how simple it are sat close together when I arrive, collected
reasoned discussion. We decided to plump for is, we try and maintain it without elaborating around a small mixing desk. Theyre almost
the latter, but this doesnt mean that the former upon it. Thats really important to us. holding hands. And I am completely ignored.
isnt in with a ghting chance Ash: We think that a lot of the best ideas are I am dirt the winds blown in. They dont care
the simple ones. for me! Its not surprising.
Excerpts from a conversation: Number Three Jay: Thats nearly always the case. If Recently I reviewed their live show which
sex times technology equals the future. something is overworked it will show. they say is an extreme but vigorously valid
Murphy: Ive always thought that as far as The days labourer: But your stage integration of the very anxious stuff theyre
Bauhaus were concerned what we have to say or presentation does seem to be overworked. about and implied that at the core of their
theorise about what we do isnt important. Ash: We feel that if the stage is there, why entertainment lay a lump of shit. I suggested
The actual act of listening to the music is just stand on it and play you might as well that their heart was made up of sick.
the be-all and end-all of what were about. We put a record on. You are there to entertain to a In the little studio my presence is nally
dont really want to analyse it all tightly acknowledged.
the time, we dont want to have to
speak about it. We do it I implied that at the core of The studio is probably well
heated, but its very cold.
The days labourer: Arent
individual interpretations from
within the group an important
Bauhaus lay a lump of shit When you came in, singer Pete
Murphy shudders later, it was a
real sick feeling it was horrible
thing, especially having made the decision to certain degree. I have the feeling that you think Who would have thought that a collection
accept the interview situation? that it is all really worked out, but it isnt. Its of words, a pile of images, teased together and
Murphy: One thing I nd really boring is totally spontaneous. presented in such a trivialised context could
when an artist talks about his work in a really The days labourer: I detected an over- cause such antipathy: but then half a wink in the
over-the-top way. It just really spoils it for me. compensation you have a particular idea or wrong place can cause murder.
If you like something, its there image and youre so eager to make sure that it We move to the studio bar. I try to be
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Bauhaus: (l to r)
Kevin Haskins,
Daniel Ash, Peter
Murphy, David Jay
friendly; theyre content to stay blank. They Excerpts from a conversation: Number Six there was a certain amount of return. We felt
make it very clear that I have bruised them. let us be friends even if we cant hold hands. we were putting a lot into things like a job and
All I wanted to do was blast away the sheets of The days labourer: I have a very apathetic getting nothing out of it
vagueness that have covered Bauhaus. view of Bauhaus the dark side of the damp Ash: I think initially we were ghting for
I turn on my tape recorder. They turn on patch. Do you pay attention to all sorts of something better than the mundane its also
theirs. The conversation will be recorded by two things, messy things and nice things? to do with gaining respect
cassettes. This is serious: its surprising. This is Ash: Its all in there its just that we seem The days labourer: From who?
desperate: its terric. to get picked up on the dark things Ash: From people around you. You want to
Drummer Kevin Haskins is prepared to Jay: Its not as though we have a whole set make a statement saying, I am worthwhile, I am
thump me: hes so quiet that at one point of Bela Lugosis Dead. I think that record has necessary, Ive got something to do Its about
Murphy asks him if hes alright. His brother, cast a backward shadow over everything and its saying that you are worthwhile as a person
bass player David Jay, consistently looks at me as been hard to move out into the sun. Murphy: Youre gaining self-respect as
if to say who is this puddle of drabness and how well and everybody has potential everyones
FIN COSTELLO/REDFERNS
dare he come along and question our radiance? Excerpts from a conversation: Number Eight wonderful this is really idealistic oh shit
Guitarist Daniel Ash is as reasonable as I am. creative activity can undoubtedly act as a butwe should all search for ourselves, learn
To Bauhaus I am just another pop journalist. defence against all kinds of threat. to love yourself before you can love others. You
I am just a days labourer. Jay: We all wanted to do something where have to go through shit. Or life
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Happy Hunting Ground
Excerpts from a conversation: Number Ten
what young man is by nature diligent, sober
and regular in his habits?
The days labourer: Was the initial impetus
to escape Northampton? Did you want to be pop
stars or were there greater intentions involved?
Jay: Not greater intentions, but not pop stars
either
Murphy: No, but that is part of it. For me
a part of it, not all of it
The days labourer: And that part ts into
the whole?
Murphy: No, nothing ts in it is Im not
Bauhaus, hes not, hes not, hes not Shivers down
Ash: Its always been and always will be your spine:
Bauhaus live
four very disparate views and attitudes its
a mental chicane: all the ideas colliding and
meeting in the middle
Murphy: I think we really respect each
other well, I hope so. Its like a real love
relationship I really miss them when Im
Our guitarist is an accident victim.
away from them It was my rst experience
of creating something and when you live with
them on tour and work with them it really
Im a weed. Our singer is A Mouth
brings you together, it really brings you close. Jay: That is exactly what we think powerful only a certain amount of people are
Jay: But its not all love and peace Haskins: Right from the very start weve going to draw from it, and accept it, because
Murphy: But neithers marriage, dear you hated that label of being underground. If you you cant force anything down peoples throats.
and Ann cant love each other and be smiling at listen to our singles, any of them could be You only have a certain amount of strength to
each other all the time potential hits we were really pissed off that make a statement. Its not that potent because it
Jay: Im not saying that Im trying to give they werent hits, any of them. doesnt last for long and there are hundreds of
a clear view of the situation theres a lot of We want to go on Top Of The Pops. A lot of other groups.
friction there. Its central to the whole thing people do take it for granted that we wouldnt The days labourer: So can Bauhaus claim to
The days labourer: How would you describe go on but they couldnt be more wrong. You can have any distinctive value?
the four inputs that knot together? reach more people through that programme Ash: It is a distinctive value but only to a
Jay: Our guitarist is an accident victim, Im than you would doing three or four tours, it certain amount of people. We cant do anything
a weed, our drummer is a plain Ron and our would be absolutely ridiculous not to about that, because people are only going to
singer is A Mouth Jay: In a way its to our advantage that its draw on something that they want, that they
The days labourer: What is the truth? taken this long for us to break through because relate to. Obviously we dont think that were
Jay: Ah now were just another band lost among hundreds.
Murphy: more determined.
Excerpts from a conversation: Number 15 why Ash: If wed suddenly catapulted into view Excerpts from a conversation: Number 21
are you wasting your time with snowmen when with the second single I think wed all be drug and then we kissed goodbye.
the basement needs cleaning? addicts by now The days labourer: Do you envisage a
Haskins: if someone is working in a situation where Bauhaus doesnt exist?
factory and they have Radio 1 on if we came Excerpts from a conversation: Number 13 Ash: Well, Bauhaus wont exist for ever
on it would make them stop for a moment. how much applause, after all, has God got for it might not exist next week. It might exist for
Ash: Oh, I very much doubt it Pop music his troubles over the years? another ve years you cant say We have
is for young people, and theyre pretty mixed The days labourer: Have Bauhaus always other interests. But we seem to be climbing the
up anyway Im categorising, putting people been aware of how they could use certain ladder slowly, so we continue
in boxes, but its like when they get to their aspects of the group, such as Murphy as
thirtieth year they wont be listening to pop conventional frontman, to attain commercial Additional remarks: Two do not think I
music, or pop music wont be inuencing their success or has this developed recently? underestimate your great concern.
lifestyle even if they are listening to it. It will be Ash: There are various vehicles to be used. The interview has been tidied, arranged and
part of their past. Murphy: Although the live show is an honest edited. It fails to evoke the Bauhaus art-ache:
What Im trying to say is that pop music isnt representation of our music, were also aware sex or nightmare. It fails because I do not enjoy
really that important, because it only affects of how it will draw people to come and see us their music and so placed a continual emphasis
people when theyre mixed up and young because of our reputation as a really good live on pressurising the members to justify their
Murphy: Thats like one sad fact band. And then they might nd out about us existence and examine their work, and because
Ash: Its not necessarily sad The days labourer: And once people become the group are reluctant to explain their work.
Murphy: That space which you can achieve, aware of you and youre no longer underground, Perhaps Bauhaus are healthy. Perhaps they
its potentially a really valuable vehicle and if is that the achievement: Bauhaus become part of are healing people. I wouldnt like to say. I am
you can, if you use that space, and if youre able their day, along with the food, the commercials, only the days labourer. I get merely a bland,
to enlighten that is amazing, youre asking for the radio? unsensational impression of a group who are
the world, youre asking for a saviour Murphy: Not their day once a month committed, idealistic and questioning its
The days labourer: I know an avid fan of The days labourer: But is that all you can still very cold and I cant wait to see them
the group whose attitude is, Oh theyll never expect to make an occasional interruption? on Top Of The Pops.
be on Top Of The Pops, theyre not that sort of Ash: I think as far as music is concerned
group, yet I feel it can be the only logical, useful that is all you can expect. Thats as powerful Excerpts from a conversation: Number 17
SANTOS BASONE/LFI
conclusion for a group like Bauhaus. They have as it can be. For example, PiL, their stuff is the difcult bit to grasp.
got to be in that space, as a cult theyre surely very intimidating, its very strong, but it does Ash: It all boils down to getting that shiver
wasting their time. make an impact to a certain degree. It isnt that down your spine.
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A
ndi Hayward fronts Sex may invoke perverse and braves and how! Southern
Gang Children with a paedophilic images, but they Death Cult come to sacrice a
pretension to angst that fail to live up to their name. prepared audience. The band
would shake Pete Murphy. This There is no overt or even subtle enter and the war paint daubs
pained face, painted white, sexuality. They are sterile and the fans with re. Ian is more
fails to convey a warrior than Adam
the feelings so
protractedly
projected he
This is Crazy Horse coaxing ever was pushing
the primitive drums,
encouraging the tribal
strikes you as a
howling Marcel
the faithful into his war dance
Marceau lost for words and uncoordinated warm where
war of sound.
They cross the plain
between Theatre Of Hates
NME, 8 May 1982, p31
signalling rejection. This is a they should burn, tepid where energy and the dark, percussive
Sex Gang Child. they should freeze. dance of Joy Division. Strict THE CURE
The name of the band Movement from graves to co-ordination is their essence Pornography
and their strength. (Fiction)
for the happy hunting and very nely drawn. A killer of its kind.
ground. Dont have too much fun, now.
Ian Astbury: David Dorrell Dave Hill
a man called
Hoarse
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Raise The Teutonic
from the girls, can deservedly Dark Entries was a wonderful single
claim a premium place in this a shuddering, wired monolith
hacks hierarchy of tasteless of implacable ill-intent. Since
punter-baiting, but to what then Bauhaus have consistently
end and at what cost? disappointed, and this half-studio,
Prayers was a genuine half-live double album does nothing
shock, a aunting arrogance, to change my view.
a ick-knife slash and a boot Bauhaus undeserved popularity
in the groin of last years demonstrates rocks time-hallowed
short-lived trends. Junkyard need for Princes of Darkness,
nds the Party but razor-sharp
comfortably cheekbones and a
assimilated into the style that went down
scene as welcomed, with the Teutonic
accomplished does not entitle
shock-rockers; them to the Stones
a species to be (or Doors, Velvets,
studied but no Stooges) satanic
longer a startling raiment.
experience. Their fundamental
Weve outlived fault is the simple-
their aggressively one- minded equation of a lurid,
dimensional examination melodramatic narcissism with
of the atrocious potential of the elegant trappings of terminal
language and sound; weve weltschmertz. Pete Murphy comes
moved on while they ounder across like David Bowie imitating
in a seemingly inescapable rut, Jacques Brel declaiming a pastiche
merely shifting the emphasis of Lautramont backed by the
from the soggy bass mix of early Banshees. As silly as that.
Prayers to the arid guitar What Bauhaus believe to exude
scratch of Junkyard. the alluring scent of the forbidden,
Dont get me wrong: merely stinks of atulent rhetoric.
But the band that made Dark
Entries and romped with such brio
through that camp impersonation
of Ziggy Stardust cant be all bad.
MM, 10 July 1982, p16 The Three Shadows and All We
Ever Wanted Was Everything faintly
evoke the sinister musical-box of
THE BIRTHDAY PARTY Lou Reeds Berlin or even Bowies
Junkyard Kooks. Exquisite Corpse concludes
(4AD) the studio album as Bauhaus
Three months ago, Id have given resounding riposte to A Day In The
you this: Junkyard is brilliant; Life, though not half so frightening.
an essential, abrasive album, Side One is more turgid, starting
something to sort out once and for live confrontations, cant disguise a lyrically, musically, monotonously, with a crude version of Enos Third
all the malcontents from the chart- formula struggling and strangled at magnicently, Junkyard spews Uncle, but it recovers on the last two
mesmerised morons. the end of its tether. all over anything youll have heard numbers, Swing The Heartache
Now Im not so sure. Great rock or pop should act as all year. A harrowing pantomime and Spirit. The latter sings the
Living with The a springboard, a jolt of the preposterous power of pop, praises of Bauhaus communion
Birthday Party is much for your adrenalin, it maliciously delights in exposing with their audience of worshippers.
like living with pain you a catalyst for your self-inicted wounds and fertilising Its set to one of those pounding
numb to the hurt with emotions, a trigger them with gangrenous germs. A anthems of the sort popularised by
the passing of time. for your reexes skirmish with Big Jesus Trashcan the late, lamented Skids. Curious.
Not to say Nick Caves to run ruinously should suitably offend. The live set, titled Press The Eject
grotesque parody of apeshit. Junkyard But such wanton offence can And Give Me The Tape, is a brutally
a rocknroll messiah nds The Birthday only command brief attention and procient run-through of their
doesnt stink as bad Party foreclosing recorded revulsion soon subsides greatest hits, including John Cales
as it always did, its on interpretation to neglect. Uneasy listening is no Rose Garden Funeral Of Sores, a
just that a skeletal and demanding longer enough. Almost ironically, rather Blacker Mass than any of their
production and the most cruelly attention like the spoiled brats they this partys been fun. Pity now its own songs. But the album ends on
callous of lyrics liberally battered mercilessly seek to dismember. over. Therell never be such garbage a cheerful note with Dark Entries
DAVID CORIO
by primeval grunts cant hope to Junkyard is, without doubt, an in Honeys sack again. which is where I came in.
emulate the theatre of the brutal improvement on, and extension Steve Sutherland Mat Snow
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People in A GlassHaus
Steve Sutherland (Christian) faces up to Bauhaus (Lions) MM, 30 October 1982, p24
Satised that the tumultuous whooping and one thats vital to grasp if any sense at all is to be after a phone call to their press ofcer, Chris
wailing signalled sort of psychological victory, made of this extraordinary encounter. King Carr, was informed that Bauhaus would
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Hack In The Spotlight
grant him audience on their own terms about imitation were about humour um
which involved two separate rooms in their DEATH, BLACKNESS But youve been very
native Northampton and an interview conducted brave to accept this offer and we appreciate that.
over video. Sounded silly but a cracking good Hack: Why? I see an interview as a situation
story, so the hack unconditionally agreed. where, if you want to read about somebody and
Unfortunately fame, fortune and Top Of The what they think about what theyre doing, it can
Pops put the kibosh on the whole idea as the be quite a revealing thing.
band were due to mime their hit for the cameras PM: Well, the fact is, you were on tour in our
the day the interview was supposed to take place. van, under our hospitality, hiding under a cloak
Suddenly Bauhaus were overnight big shots of friendliness and amiability and yet, when
and the liaison was scheduled and rescheduled the article came out, you absolutely turned and
according to their every passing whim. showed yourself to be a very cynical, hypocritical
Eventually it was mooted that the hack should person. It was a very dirty trick to do.
meet the band between their soundcheck and Hack: You havent answered my question.
their gig at the Lyceum. Then, in a bewildering Daniel Ash: Why did we put out Ziggy
urry of late evening phone calls, King Carr Stardust? Well, weve been tapping away at the
informed the hack that he was being set up. door of acceptability and it just seemed that the
Seems the band thought the hack should be door needed a fuckin good kick so we kicked it
brought to the Lyceum where, without prior out. Once inside the room we shall attempt to
warning, he would be bundled onto the stage to follow up with original compositions.
Media circus:
I dont think anyone else could do a cover version of Ziggy Melody Makers
Steve Sutherland
(centre) on stage
Stardust like weve done it. Its so dangerous so on edge. with Bauhaus at the
Lyceum, London
conduct the interview in front of the audience, Hack: So what youre saying
in place of a pulled-out support act. The hack, is you took the easy way out?
again, agreed but when King Carr informed PM: No! I dont think
the band their scheme had been rumbled, they anyone else could do a cover
ummed and aahed for 24 hours, nally giving version of Ziggy like weve
the go-ahead hours before the event. done it. Its so dangerous
(The spirit of Robin Day whispers in the hacks so on edge
ear: THAT indicates an amount of spontaneity? DA: And we know the
Tell us another!) chords!
And so the stage was set: ve microphones and Hack: OK, it was a brave
a table with glasses of water, all in an elaborate song to tackle, but what have
attempt on the bands behalf to belittle the hack, you brought to it that wasnt
conduct the conversation in front of witnesses so there already?
the little rat couldnt wilfully misinterpret their PM: Weve reincarnated it,
words and to prove, through their theatrical we havent attempted to make
mock-up, that all interviews are worthless. it any different. The original
The hack, for his part, was determined to get version was excellent, no way
a good story, to escape the proceedings with life, could we rearrange it. Weve put our heart into it uses stark, crude images in a dilettante way
limb and self-respect intact, to belittle Bauhaus that song because its part of our past, part of our with a little bit of reggae, a little Bowie, a little bit
as Bowie plagiarists and to show that it was interest when we were young. The way we did it of Eno I mean, who are you and what are you
only an interview situation with Bauhaus that is on Top Of The Pops was also very humorous. saying? At the end youre left feeling as empty as
totally absurd and bizarre. Hack: OK, but as Ive been cast as the cynic, you started
The following events and conversations are it seems to me youve been releasing a string of DA: Thats up to the individual.
documented, as far as space allows, as near as singles which werent getting anywhere and so Hack: Thats a cop-out. What did you want
possible the way they occurred. Any additional you used Ziggy to get there. it to do?
comments the hacks own home crowd if you PM: We did a string of singles which should DA: Making that album, we had a lot of fun.
like are attributed to the spirit of Robin Day. have got somewhere but never did. Hack: Everybody says that.
Those who want the grist without the gripes are Hack: Everybody says that. (Spirit: There ensues an embarrassing series of
therefore advised to ignore his asides. PM: But were different! squabbles concerning the value of entertainment,
Hack: OK, lets talk about the new album, captive audiences and references to Des OConnor,
The Hack: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. The Skys Gone Out. Isnt making it a double the hack elding platitudes, left, right and centre,
Im Steve from Melody Maker and this is package with an album of old live numbers the hurling them back in at the wicket. Sad to see
Bauhaus, otherwise known as Ziggy Stardust oldest marketing ploy in the business? a band so sensitive that they resort to the oldest
And The Spiders From Mars. Im here because David Jay: Fuck off! trick in the book, adopting superior, sarcastic
Ive written stuff about Bauhaus that hasnt PM: Of course we want people to hear our detachment and patronising benevolence as if, in
pleased them, so maybe the rst thing we should music. humiliating one hack, they repudiate all criticism.)
take up is that I accused you of being second-rate Hack: But what has it achieved that hasnt Hack (some time later): Whats the point in
Bowie copyists, which you denied and yet heres been achieved before? being in Bauhaus?
Ziggy Stardust. What do you think of that? PM: Its up to the audience to interpret it PM: What dyou mean, whats the point?
Peter Murphy: Were very angry and very in whatever way you want. We feel theres a Were excellent and thats it. Were a sparkling
pleased as well. This is a really good occasion progression there. Full stop. cell of activity, were really enjoying our work.
to get him back. In effect its changing the Hack: Progressions a very easy word to use. Hack: Why wont you answer my questions?
whole interview situation into something else; From what Ive heard, the new album sounds Why are you putting forward all this bullshit?
its using it as performance, something very much the same as your others melodramatic PM: What do you mean, not answering your
dangerous, which is what were about nothing but pretty empty. It doesnt seem to say anything, questions? Youre putting out all these comments
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Lets Go To Bed
incurables The
the people. I mean, people like Culture Club
MM, 18 December 1982, p18 do, but we were trying to reach beyond that
faade, beyond current fashion to actually do
Have The Cure split? Is Robert Smith joining the Banshees? something that was gonna last.
What virtues
Does anybody care? Steve Sutherland investigates music exhibit?
and values should such lasting
w
hatever happened to The Cure? Part- The Bunnymen theres very few, but I think Everything weve done has been instinctive.
time Banshee Robert Smith sits in the theyve kept a sort of intensity. You never well, hardly ever have pure
lounge of the Kensington Hilton, sips Thats what I was always striving for insight. Theres really no answers or solutions.
his ice-cool Perrier and worries whether its time with The Cure, but there were far too many Thats a cop-out. Your music is presented in
to write his babys obituary. things working against it really; things of such a manner as to suggest signicance.
Do The Cure really exist any more? Ive our own making like anti-image and all that But the rst line on Pornography is It
been pondering that question myself. See, as I rubbish. That was probably a big mistake, not doesnt matter if we all die. There could be
wrote 90 per cent of the Pornography album, establishing ourselves as personalities earlier. nothing more throwaway than that. To me,
I couldnt really leave because it wouldnt have The Cure always seemed to me to promote thats a really funny line
been The Cure without me. a woolly, unvaried
But it has got to a point where I really dont
fancy working in that format again. People
imprecision, refusing to
entertain any conclusions. It doesnt matter if we all die.
keep saying, You mustnt break up, because its
become like an institution that almost gives
me an incentive to pack it in anyway. I think
That was through
apathy more than anything
else. As long as I would have
To me, thats a really funny line
its really awful seeing bands just disintegrate bought stuff that we were producing, then that Or a really pretentious one
slowly in a stupid way, dont you? was reason enough for releasing the records. No, its not pretentious I really think that!
Whatever happens, it wont be me, Laurence There was never any idea of covering a Im as convinced by arguments for the end
and Simon together any more. I know that. certain section of the market or broadening out of the world as I am for saving whales its a
I wonder if you ever did have any idea what and appealing to more people. Ive never been a completely theoretical area. If I saw someone
The Cure were doing? public face, I wouldnt ever dare to presume that jumping on a baby, Id probably go over the try
I dont know. Its impossible to articulate people hold me up a some kind of gure and, to stop them but, at the same time, I can sit here
really. It sounds really horrible but its more if they did, theyd be really stupid because Im and glibly say that it doesnt matter if we all die.
than words and music. Ive always aspired to much too horrible to be a model for anybody. Its not sixth-form angst or immaturity. Its
TOM SHEEHAN
be like certain bands who affected me: Joy You cant gear your life around presenting a paradox in that what we were doing, to most
Division, New Order, the Banshees, Echo & yourself as something to be consumed by people, seemed really doomy and depressing and
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yet, as a band, we were almost absurdly happy. recorded by Robert and Laurence Tolhurst as What about as far as the Banshees are
Ive never really considered that Ive had a disco experiment. Laurence has packed in concerned?
anything of importance to say on record and drumming and is learning keyboards; Simon I dont know, we havent really discussed
yet we get hundreds of letters from people who Gallup has formed his own band and Robert has it that much. I thought it would be very
are very concerned about what weve done; its recorded a pop single with Steve Severin. presumptuous to say something like that
almost been like a soundtrack to their crises. Meanwhile, the guitarist relaxes on tour with but well, once a Banshee, always a Banshee.
Exactly. The Cure were not a Cure, I dont think Ive said anything
they were an ailment, pandering to the
emotional afictions of their listeners. The Cure are almost like a in this interview, have I? Its all so
ambiguous. It just perpetrates the
No, its not like an incentive for
someone to wallow in their own despair.
Its impossible for me to justify what
soundtrack to peoples crises wanton obscurity.
Youve managed to not clear up the
Cure and Banshees mysteries quite
weve done because it only really mirrored the Banshees as a substitute for John McGeogh. successfully.
our experiences, it never really sought to do Rumours abound that the position may prove Yeah, its all just a state of ux at the
anything more than that. permanent. How bout it Robert? moment. Theres nothing clear-cut to say
Fiction have just released a new single, Lets As far as Im concerned, Im just doing this except I know what I want for Christmas,
Go To Bed, credited to The Cure but really tour. Never believe rumours. Melody Maker readers a hologram kit.
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archaic as hell, hard rock blurge THIS was the riff they were looking Its a sad comment on the state of
who owe more to The Stranglers for. Put it this way: its not bad. Music Today (assumes grandad-
gothic battering ram than the Vocal-wise the lead Sister (a like posture and nestles into
Pistols explosive rage. They trade male) sounds like Lux Interior if rocking chair) that there are
in the old high-camp pseudo- he were given a decent group hundreds of groups who make
art menace with their onstage and some proper songs instead days, a decline in standards their livings by impersonating
theatrics and ponderous musical of a collection of musical cripples reinforced by the inclusion of their heroes as accurately as
attack. Kick In The Eye is one like The Cramps or Ian Curtis on the original versions of Killing possible, in much the same way
of their most popular songs, so Transmission, even. Purchase. An Arab and A Forest on one as 57 years ago a group called
hopefully all who want it have got Lynden Barber portion of this doublepack. Wild Wally wore out the tarmac
it and well be hearing as little of it Its just as well that The Cure on the M1 bringing watered down
as possible in the coming weeks. have now jettisoned what was rocknroll to the kids. What is
Gavin Martin their nest moment, Boys worse, some people appear to
Dont Cry, a song now being accept their liverish dross.
respectfully refurbished in a All you need to know about
Glasgow home by The Bluebells, The Cocteau Twins is that they
who seem to be the sort of people make Siouxsie & The Banshees
that appreciate it more. records. OK?
Believe it or not, I was actually Lynden Barber
the rst person to write about
The Cure, although its not
something I tell anyone but
my closest acquaintances.
NME, 17 April 1982, p22 Adrian Thrills
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1983
DEREK RIDGERS
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Mercy Mercy Me
The
Devil
s Floorshow Adam Sweeting unravels the stream of consciousness gushing
forth from The Sisters Of Mercy MM, 15 January 1983, p20
o
ur problem is that talking usually Chinese was the best. Latin helped me no end playing. Craig is the beer-drinker of the group.
ends up as a very serious affair, I dont know whether it helped my brain any, Guitarist Ben Gunn sits quietly in an
which isnt a true reection of the but as a linguist it was certainly vital. And I can armchair, boyish and suspiciously innocent,
band as a phenomenon, said Andy, do crosswords in a zillionth of the time it takes the classroom swot who goes home at night and
singer with The Sisters of Mercy. Its very hard anybody else. I cant do the ordinary ones, but makes explosives in a shed in the back garden.
to convey the non-intellectual aspects of any the cryptic ones are a doddle. Then theres Andy, frontman, writer of all
band through talking. the material so far, dominant theorist and
What the hell, we talked anyway. We talked in The day of our meeting found The Sisters Of mouthpiece. Andy likes logic, order, Motorhead,
Andys front room in Leeds, all four Sisters and Mercy unaccountably quiet, possibly the result cats, industrial design, The Birthday Party, The
me. Then I talked to Andy and guitarist Gary of a sordid and thinly attended gig in Bradford Psychedelic Furs, aeroplanes and TS Eliot.
Marx in a Chinese restaurant. Then back to the the night before. Consider these men: guitarist Andy hates Bauhaus, Kid Creole, false
front room. I vetoed the full all-nighter around Gary Marx is tall, lanky, thick white socks spiritualism, numerous groups from the Leeds/
3.30am. Andy probably spent the rest of the of the sort favoured by mountaineers pulled Bradford area, fashion, eating and alcohol.
night talking to himself, because hed nally got up over the bottoms of his jeans. He watches The Sisters use of a drum machine instead of
warmed up, the night creature pacing in his lair. the proceedings with apparent indifference, a drummer makes excellent sense Andy can
Before he found himself in the spotlight with occasionally throwing in an oblique comment. growl and roar and the others can torment and
The Sisters Of Mercy, Andy studied languages. On stage, he wreaks violence on his guitar. punish their instruments, but the beat will not
Where, I queried. Bassman Craig Adams crimps himself into slacken or surrender.
Oh, all over the place, he said guardedly. the corner of the sofa and reads an old Batman Andy, if you do all the writing, how
I never nished a course because I kept nding annual from cover to cover, pausing only to light important is the rest of the group?
more exciting things to do, like petty vandalism. another cigarette. He only uses three strings Its vital. The personal chemistry is very
Ive done French and German and Italian on his bass because one of the machine heads important. Craigs response is just to play the
and Latin and Chinese and a smattering of in broken. His cheerful exterior seems quite at bass like he does, that sort of awesome noise,
Russian and a smattering of Dutch in my time. odds with the grinding, warlike attack of his and that says a lot to me.
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Sometimes at soundchecks, maybe after Its the only thing which Reading some of his lyrics
weve been in the van all day, he just plugs in separates us from bozos. on paper, I was surprised by the
and wham! It just knocks me out. Mark provides Do you advocate self- formal attention to detail which
the more lunatic side of things. And Bens got a destruction? had gone into them. Generally
much more open mind on things. The balance Andy: Under certain the voice is used as a strand in
of all these four is what makes it work. circumstances, yes. Nietzsche the groups overall sound.
Even minor decisions are ludicrously once said that a mans greatest Our sound says a lot about
democratic. Thats one of the reasons why we power is the power to decide me, Andy explained. People
never got a drummer, because drummers just the time of his own death, say things like, Whats your
dont t into anybodys personal chemistry. and that seems perfectly attitude to nuclear war? and
You talk a lot about the humour in your reasonable. I wouldnt hold Andrew Eldritch: I say, Just listen to the sound
your regular
music, but does it communicate to an audience? that suicide is necessarily a Renaissance Man what the fuck do you think
Well, basically it involves the dialectics of symptom of unsoundness our attitude to nuclear war is?
cynicism, which is something that takes a long of mind, or being not in The voice is much more
time to explain, said Andy. Its a personal than the instruments,
very, very, very, dry joke.
Gary: I think the gigs are pure The names a nice 50-50 balance so its better to mix it down,
because youre very vulnerable.
slapstick.
Because you make them that
way or because of the places you
between nuns and prostitution I think with Anaconda we
might include a lyric sheet.
Wed never print the lyrics on
have to play in? possession of all ones faculties. the sleeve cos that would spoil my artwork.
Andy: It starts off OK but by the end of the Gary: Which is one of the connotations of Andy does the Sisters artwork himself, and
gig Garys just not in control any more, hes just the name of the group. It was picked because it typically its cold and neat, iced with sharp
destroying things. And it is very slapstick. had several strong images, not just one. detail, using livid monochrome to index the
But every bands got that anyway. Its just The names nice and ironic, said Andy stark polarities contained inside.
that most of them dont realise it. And of course with a thin grin, very corporate. A nice 50-50 Anaconda is about the hip games people play
the fact that youre being serious about it only balance between nuns and prostitution, which with heroin addiction, now worryingly back in
makes it more ironic and the whole thing about seemed like a very suitable metaphor for a rock vogue at prices too many people can afford.
irony is that is compounds itself at every stage. band. All this pseudo-faith business and high Theres far too many smack songs which are
Of course, a jokes no longer a joke once ritual, and yet prostitution. a bit too callously irresponsible. Junkie chic is
youve picked it apart and explained it. I And Merciful Release? not where its at. We do Sister Ray because its
can only say that the rst time I saw them Suitably pompous, chortled Gary. just an orgy of self-destruction every time we do
something clicked at once. Perhaps its a little Vincent Price delivered the line very well it. Thats what its all about.
like that horric thrill of driving fast on a once, said Andy. And its a nicely self- All of the lyrics are designed to be taken away
motorway in the rain and the car suddenly deprecating way of releasing stuff. When you and used. Its not just purging myself. I couldnt
starts to aquaplane, or realising that youve gone make a Merciful Release its like, Well, thats go and perform it or make a record of it if I didnt
over the line this time but wasnt it worth if for out of the way, the agony is now over. think it was generally useful. Besides, the band
the rush? Gamesmanship par excellence. wouldnt let me and why should they?
Check, for verication, available Sisters By Andys own admission, the Sisters are still
vinyl on their own Merciful Release label: embryonic, but plans have been laid for 1983. Is there anything youd die for?
the erce, teeth-clenching bobsleigh runs Depending on trivial little factors like money, [Long pause] I might die for someone. Not for
of Adrenochrome and Body Electric, the they should have a single called Anaconda any cause. Dying when you dont intend to is not
relentless Alice. At the moment Im xated by out in February, and an EP is also high on the my idea of an intelligent act.
the suspended torment of Floorshow, a roaring agenda. An LP is not envisaged before 1984. What would you be doing if you werent in
electric tarantella, the kill-or-cure dance of Theyre currently entering a slower and The Sisters Of Mercy?
death. Its hard rock without the pomp (though heavier phase, which Andy feels he has to work Id like to do all sorts of things whether
Andy can and will pose like a good un), heavy out of his system forthwith. anybodyd give me the chance is another thing.
metal with keen critical faculties. I wouldnt mind being your regular Renaissance
Man, but whos gonna employ me
What do you love about rock? to do that? Not many vacancies for
Andy: We like a loud noise, we like a them in the Exchange & Mart.
good tune. We like the relentlessness of How about you, Gary?
classic rock music heavy metal. Working Class Hero. Its
What do the Sisters do thats any true, thats what my name is, its
more than a loud physical noise? just sending it up. Im just a born
Well, our attitude towards parody is Working Class Hero deprived
designed to show people how this loud background, almost a footballer.
noise is ideally to be taken. You can What use are you to anybody?
frighten people and amuse them at the Andy: You could say, Well look,
same time, and excite them and inspire four million people cant be wrong
them. Because thats what it does to us, and thats how many weve sold, and
it does all those things. it wouldnt justify it. You could say,
Are you offering your audience Well it stopped one person jumping
some kind of faith? off a bridge, and that wouldnt
Yeah, I mean to us cynicism justify it. Whatever justication you
is very closely linked to faith or had wouldnt prove the point; you
belief or holding something dear. can only offer an opinion.
Its the sort of cynicism that comes That question not only asks What
out of disappointment with ones The Sisters in 83: (l to r)
do you do? but also Do you regard
environment rather than despair of Ben Gunn, Andrew Eldritch, it as worthwhile?, and obviously one
it, and thats a very precious thing. Gary Marx, Craig Adams does or one wouldnt do it.
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Redskin Rock
Tunes of glory
MM, 5 March 1983, p20
Adam Sweeting sings the praises and questions the poses of Southern Death Cult
i
met Southern Death Cult in Liverpool the latest in a long line of labelling machines into an interview situation I could explain why
on a cold grey afternoon. Id wanted (probably unscrupulous). After some nervous I was interested in Indian culture. But I never got
to meet them because theyre one of a false starts, and probably to everybodys surprise, the opportunity and we were already labelled.
sadly tiny number of groups who have we nally found some common ground. So I thought it would be better for the four of
some sort of aura, who project more than just a A lot of people want to accept us for some us if I toned everything down, and now I dont
chart position or a certain brand of hype. reason, said Ian, the singer, so theyve got to wear those clothes any more. I havent packed it
Foolishly, Id believed what Id read in the try and understand us. To understand us theyve in cos its still in me heart, but I thought if I take
papers about them being the spearhead of got to put a label on us. By putting a label on us the image away and people wanna nd out, then
some new movement, and consequently I had a theyre linking us with other people. But it is they can go deeper than that
whole clutter of preconceptions. I saw them as dangerous, its like the nails going in the cofn.
potential fakes (probably arrogant), who maybe With their loud declarations of their Meet the Death Cult theres guitarist Buzz,
believed what theyd been told about their own absorption with North American Indian culture, blond hair falling bashfully down one side of a
importance. But I hoped they didnt. the Death Cult were instantly pegged as Redskin face which can only be described as pretty. Buzz
From their side, the view was different. The Rock, and visions of Adam & The Ants started likes Woody Allen, Mad magazine and George
Death Cult dont read the papers much, probably to haunt them. But Ian, you must have known Melly, all of which came as a bit of a shock since
because what theyve read about themselves that would happen? Id expected him to say something like Sex
has in general disgusted them. They saw me as I was aware of it but I thought if I could get Gang Children and grave-robbing.
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Southern Death Cult:
Ian Lindsay (soon
to be Ian Astbury),
Buzz, Aky and Barry
Theres drummer Aky, whos Pakistani. I started babbling on to him, everything I To a certain extent yeah, but were not sorta
He admits to reading Mayfair and likes old could think of to show I wasnt what he thought like puppets, you know, we do have feelings and
rocknroll the happy stuff as he puts it. I was, but he just sort of opped into the crowd we are sorta reecting what we see around us
Im a really ambitious person, he confesses. and shrank away. But afterwards I was talking to through our music. I wouldnt like to see what
On bass, theres Barry. He looks very serious, him for like two hours, and he said, Please come we do being taken purely as an entertainment
shakes my hand with great solemnity. He speaks back and play again. It was good. But that rst thing, just a dance band. Id like to see maybe a
in a wistful tone which sounds like the faintest thing he said sort of knocked me on the head for bit of thought going into it.
breath of wind could carry it away. Barry reads a the rest of the evening, it really cracked me up. But isnt it an entertainment industry?
lot of books. Aky says: I can never understand Having been elected as baby Messiahs, you I think it was.
the questions when we get interviewed, so if they have to expect problems like these. Meeting the You mean its changed?
ask me I refer them to Barry. Death Cult, I was startled by how unprepared Before, people had a choice of what they
And nally Ian, frontman and performer, they were for the kind of status which has been wanted to be into. Now theyve got it forced upon
chief talker of the group but them, like Kajagoogoo and
not necessarily the last word on all that shit. I think thats
what they do or why. Ian does
like Sex Gang Children Im
Moya is a near-classic deployment of simple rock pretty wrong.
Were not forcing
pretty much obsessed with them
now. Theyre about the only new
components, adding up to an aura of eerie suggestion ourselves upon anyone
if people want us were
group that I really like. thrust their way. I thought their Fatman/Moya there, but if they dont want us then fair enough.
Ian is emotional, an extrovert in an intense single was ne stuff, moody and evocative, but Were not sort of on every fucking kids TV
sort of way, and has a penchant for self- Id been disappointed by a thoroughly drab programme, trying to push our product to them.
dramatisation. Useful credentials for a singer session they recorded for John Peel. Were just where we are.
with a rock band, but he needs more realistic At the moment theyre still probing their There has to be an element of performance,
qualities of the other three to prevent him from own weaknesses and strengths, which is why though. You have to pose to some extent to be
ying out of control. songs like The Girl can end up sounding like the frontman with Southern Death Cult.
Ian started to tell the story of an incident a raw tangle of noise, while newer stuff like All No I dont, said Ian hotly. I just do what
which had taken place at Friars in Aylesbury the Glory? begins to resonate with a dawning sense I want. Sometimes Ive just got to control meself,
night before. Ian had been on stage at the time. of power. Moya is still their best song a near- like when that kid said that thing to me at
There was this little Asian kid and he sort of classic deployment of simple rock components Aylesbury I just felt like getting a microphone
looked up and motioned me over, and he said, which adds up to an aura of eerie suggestion. stand and shoving it down his throat. But you
Youre fuckin in love with yerself, arent yer? So Ian, are you aiming for the group to work just dont take your frustrations out on people.
I thought, You little bastard, you dont fucking on that basic level of just being something for What Ian does on stage isnt a pose, its from
know how I feel. people to dance to? the heart, added Barry seriously.
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Ian: It just reects the way I see
things things that may have happened to
me through my life that have made me the
way I am. Ive got it all built up inside me.
When I get on stage I can hit some
levels where I just open my heart
completely. Like last night before I went on
it was really strange, cos I closed me eyes
NME, 12 February 1983 and I could see me own face looking at me.
I wasnt scared, but something like that
had never happened to me before.
THE BIRTHDAY PARTY
The Bad Seed What are the things that have happened
4AD to Ian to make him the way he is? Hes
The Birthday Party have lived in Canada, Belfast and Liverpool,
always seemed more an and spent a month in the army before
exercise in exhausting deciding that wasnt for him. Hell talk
self-parody than the about some of it, but then infuriatingly
gothic Beefheart stops just when the subject sounds like its
claimed by their rabid getting weird. Such as: The subjects you Did we really just
supporters. They may could talk about, Im too scared to, so Id admit to liking
have come to bury rather not talk about it. Its something Supertramp?
rocknroll, but the Im aware of within meself, so thats why
trouble is they keep digging the I control meself. Like
grave over and over again. I know certain people who
And after listening to this four-song EP, it think theyd like to fuck Last night, before I went on stage, I closed my
seems that it wont be long before Nick Cave off to Nicaragua, pick up
and his performing troupe of deviants fall into a gun and ght there, cos eyes and saw my own face looking back at me
their purpose-built tomb. theyre too scared to ght
Its impossible to avoid the obvious when in this country. It depends what youre into inspirational to go out and make whatever you
youre talking about The Birthday Party simply Look, youre hardly the rst band to sing do a bit better, you know? You can shut things
because they are so ludicrously larger than about jingoism (Patriot or All Glory?) Or out around you, make yourself feel good.
life: sex, smack and death are all over into this genocide (Moya). I think the Death Cult could fall into the same
unctuous assault. Oh no, certainly not, said Ian. traps as The Clash, of promising more than you
The playing sounds tired and overwrought, So isnt there a danger of just turning these can deliver.
any tension lost in a barrage of clichs. The rusty topics into clichs? We dont base everything on image and we do
stabs of bass, drums and guitar are used more as I dont think human feelings can be clichd a lot of things on feeling, said Ian. I suppose to
a means of colouring Caves schlock accounts of its not a little trend or fashion, it is a feeling. a very very small extent we do things for effect,
love gone awry than as a force in their own right You cant clich feeling. You get psychologists I think everyone does. Ive got a hell of a lot of
which places the emphasis on lyrics that are saying a certain condition is schizophrenia or respect for The Clash; I think theyve still kept
no longer disturbing or genuinely dark. something thats garbage. How can you sort of their integrity. Maybe theyre past their peak.
Deep In The Woods is a swing love song for put somebodys frame of mind into a category so Its in your favour that you draw on a very
psychotic misogynists Tonight we sleep in you can understand them? basic, traditional kind of rock power it has a
separate ditches, croons Cave. Sonnys Burning Are you offering people faith, or weight of history behind it.
is a black account of energy-saving. Fears Of I dont think Im offering anything. Im just Oh yeah, it goes a long way back. Back to,
Gun boasts a chorus that runs Fingers down myself, stating the way I feel about things. Im not I suppose, when people were banging sticks
the throat of love and Wild World is a plea for a preacher. At one time I thought I was supposed and stones together.
protection and little more. to be a preacher cos I thought I had to say things Well, I dunno about that
This is a ight into miserable fantasy; a to get people to look at me in a certain way, or to People are always looking to the future for
diversion that offers hardly any insights into the look at us and say, Well, Southern Death Cult answers thats why everythings falling apart.
sometimes poignant state of the truly wretched. are about being free or fucking the system, or If you go back to the past, you know what you
The Birthday Party pretend to be crucied whatever. But now I think no, thats not the way. are and where youre going.
for the consequences of irrepressible extremes. I dont wish to become a leader or anything Even us, looking back into the 60s for
Yet, like most of their supposed obsessions, this like that, I dont think any of us do, because of inspiration Before the Sex Pistols I was
record is another plaything. Theyve probably the responsibilities that wed have. listening to stuff like Supertramp and Genesis
forgotten it already and if youve any sense In the end, arent you just one more rock I used to pass off The Who and that as dinosaurs.
youll do the same. group out of thousands of rock groups? Its only been in about the past year that
Ian Pye I dunno, sighed Ian. Ive been doing a hell of a lot of listening to 60s
Within ourselves I guess not, said Barry. As stuff, like Jimi Hendrix, The Who and The Small
regarded by other people, probably yes. Faces, and its fucking mind-blowing.
Ian, isnt the problem with music that
anything you want to say is simultaneously an 1983 looks like being a good year for rock groups,
escape or a social occasion for your audience? and Southern Death Cult will become one of the
Yeah, I would say that. Um I think music is best of them. How much does this matter, Aky?
one of the only things people have got left where The whole thing about the band and all
everyone can express themselves the way they is that sometimes when we do gigs it shatters
want to, through dancing. A lot of people cant that whole image thing. Ian will just say or do
paint or draw or write and they dont even care something that shatters peoples image of us, like
Nick Cave: Sex, about stuff like that, but when people come to a Oh, Southern Death Cult, theyre just another
smack and death? concert they can do what they want. Haircut One Hundred which is really good.
Mmm, yes please
You can use the concert as a focal point. It is There is something more than just a band.
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Party weary
treats us in a very different way. Its
like they wait for some sort of signal
from the group as to what way we
want them to behave.
The group return to their much-
hated outpost of London this month
NME, 18 June 1983, p14 supposedly to complete a double
EP which was begun in Berlin before
Following months of rumour, The Birthday Party have announced that they are splitting up. the tour.
And that, says Nick, will be the
Drummer and co-founder Mick Harvey attributed the decision to lack of artistic direction, last project for quite a long time for
and audience inflexibility. Brett Wright reports from the bands home town of Melbourne on The Birthday Party.
Caves next project is the staging
their f inal dates in Australia, and talks to Nick Cave about his own plans for the future of 50 or so one-minute plays hes
written with Lydia Lunch. He
doesnt have too many details about
T
he tour was a debacle. They called The Shufing Hungarians. this project, but he does have a
were reasonably well-received Both said they liked Nick a lot. philosophical position on it.
in Sydney, but opped in Perth Back in Melbourne a week later, I nd theatre the most awkward,
and opped in one of two concerts Nick Cave was convalescing at home restricting medium which you
in home town Melbourne. The other in his mothers place in the afuent, can work in. Which is primarily the
Melbourne show was a qualied tree-lined surrounds of Malvern reason Im working in it and why
success, but many felt cheated by East. He looked carefully wrecked: these plays are going to be put on
the groups unwillingness to play dark lines under the eyes; a weary, under the banner of traditional
any more than eight lousy songs, dismissive manner, drainpipe jeans, theatre rather than performance art
as several patrons put it. a swastika belt buckle or fringe theatre. Or at least, it will
At the Perth show, the absurdity I have tried to make it clear to be presented under that guise. Once
came to a head. Cave was bitten on the audience that despite what the audience are trapped within
PETER ANDERSON
the leg by a hospital clerk named they think, I dont like being pulled the doings of the plays it will be no
Sarah and knocked to the ground under a crowd stomping feet and longer remain respectable.
by the former lead singer of a band so forth. Now the British audience I bet it wont.
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The further adventures of Steve Severin and Robert Smith, by Steve Sutherland
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Kitchen sink drama
Of course, both the Banshees their fame. Where others make commercial
and The Cure have always mucked success the be-all of their existence, the
about with the romantic notion of Banshees contingent want to use it as a
love, happiest with a relationship weapon. Hence the splintering of the band
to dissect or an emotion to torture into its offshoots experiments with the
into screaming confessions of guilt, attraction of reputation.
so it should come as no surprise Its basically an album and thats where its
that when Smith and Severins plan gonna stop, says Severin of The Glove. And
for a single called Punish Me With thats what The Creatures is, just one album.
Kisses expanded into a feverishly The more time The Creatures are seen to be
claustrophobic album project, love around, the more people think, Have the
should end up on the rack. Banshees split up? And all sorts of nonsense.
It does come as something of a So were just gonna do the minimal amount,
shock, however, when Smith sits cross- then concentrate on other things.
legged on the oor and says: Its quite To me, it seems perfectly natural to
a happy album really. Its good that its be involved in so many different areas,
gonna be a summer release. says Smith. But it still seems odd to other
My mind swiftly retracks in panic people, Funny that
the nightmare-in-a-nursery of Mr
Alphabet the brooding cacophony of The trap is , of course, that ensuring your
Orgy the sance tension of Blues In own working environment remains vibrant
Drag? I catch a hint of a smile. doesnt mean that what you produce will
I should have known: once a Banshee Severin and be valid to anybody else. Just because
always a Smith: Evil Dead Robert Smith plays a lot more keyboards
We havent got together to do this meets the Blue than guitar on The Glove album doesnt
because theres anything trapping us Meanies necessarily mean the albums any good.
within the music that we already do, Severin is acutely aware of the problem.
Severin insists in a whisper. I know The idea that The Glove could get away
that Im quite free to do whatever I like with anything vanished very quickly because
within the Banshees and always have.
The main reason the whole thing started
The Gloves Blue it became a real responsibility to get it to
sound not indulgent. What I wanted was for it
was because, when I listened to The Cure, I
could understand why Robert was putting a Sunshine sounds like a to have more of a specic personality than the
Banshees or The Cure.
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Mere Mortals
the kitchen, defending in our own ways the who found, somehow, that she could sing. A
almost handsome silence. I open a bottle of technician and a voice.
strong lager. Robin, at a distance, mixes a gin Thats a bit hollow, Robin snorts.
and tonic and adds a slice of lemon. Elizabeth, to Well, tell me more, I implore.
my surprise, frantically rubs her ngers together, Oh, weve been spilling our bloody life stories
in a state of true anguish. I thought Id been out to you he sneers.
invited, but it appears I am an intruder. I could Spilling? This was an exaggeration.
kill them, because they make me feel so ugly. Dripping, more like.
But I had a feeling this would be indulgent, so A couple of drops.
I gently enquired if we would have to talk in the Twin drops were falling on my head.
open wilds of the kitchen. It was torture.
They invite me into their room. Trafc
turns right outside the windows in this room, I asked Elizabeth if she was excited about being a
which doesnt smell of anything, and a clock Cocteau Twin. I thought it might be interesting
ticks proudly by their bed. You can hardly hear if she could explain whether being a Twin
Robin defending his virtue and describing had taken her anywhere exciting, disturbing,
his disappointments, and even he seems to be stimulating, and I didnt mean on a bus. Are you
bawling compared to Elizabeth. The loudest noise excited about being a Cocteau Twin?
she made was the rst noise she made during the Yes and no. Drip and drop.
conversation, after many meandering minutes. In what ways yes and no
She sneezed, startling me, Robin and herself. Er A pause as long as your grandmothers
At one point Robin will pull a hair from life. Or death. Oh A pause as long as a
Elizabeths throat: the length of the hair shocks sleepless night. The clock ticks. The trafc turns.
us all, but dont worry, it wasnt growing out of Oh God Cmon woman. Im going to say
her throat. It must have fallen there somehow. sorry again
Records in the room are stacked very neatly. What are you trying to provoke us into ideas in the music business the selling the
The room is dustless, there isnt really a hair saying? demands Robin. competing the music is there, it represents a
out of place. Or at least, if there is, it is removed Tell me some stories, tell me where you are, particular time for us, and there it is If I was
with some drama, and it nds its proper place. tell me where you might have been tell me someone else I wouldnt want to know about
Oblivion, or something. Theyre from Falkirk. something. Unfair, decides Robin. me, all those little personal details, my opinions,
I dont think we should have to explain thats all to do with packaging, a packaging I
Robin softly complains: Everybody at our record anything. I would have thought that the music dont want to know about
company tells us how popular and important explains everything really Is this purity possible in such a rough, raucous
The Cocteau Twins are, but I cant comprehend You feel that the music is the end, not the world?
any of that. All we have to go on is our record beginning. You wont accept that your music, Well, its a nice thought to have with you
sales, and we dont really sell that many records. something you feel very close to and involved But it means that youre completely defensive
That was something to think about. with and therefore special to you, will attract all the time, even towards people who are, so to
We needed something to laugh about. I asked attention and questioning you dont seem to speak, on your side.
Elizabeth if she considered herself a writer: by want to acknowledge all the complications that On the whole in interviews I am defensive
this time she was talking to me, not sneezing or must go with making pop music. because generally the rst question is, Oh,
staring down past her knees at the clean carpet. It all comes from a rejection I have of certain why do you copy Siouxsie & The Banshees?
Something like that.
People would come along to interview us and theyd go, In the days of Garlands, especially, people
had these notions that we would be clad in
leather, with make-up all over, and po-faced.
Oh God, we thought you at least looked good!
Are you a writer?
People would actually come along to interview
us and theyd ask us where The Cocteau Twins
were. Theyd go, Oh God, we thought you at
No. least looked good!
Do you call yourself a singer? Robin smirks out of a kind of triumph
No. he cannot hide it, although he tries at this
So what do you call yourself? memory. Elizabeth shivers a little, as if this
She turns to Robin, touches his leg. memory, like most others, was a cold wind.
Oh, youve got a lot of names that you call
me, havent you Will enters our time together. Will and Robin
Robin smiles at her: Youre a wee bastard, wanted to make some music together, there
thats what you are in Scotland, and found Elizabeth dancing in a
That made us laugh. club. If she could dance that well, it was decided,
Robin looks into a corner of the room: I get surely she will sing superbly.
a funny feeling up my nose and my back when I look at Elizabeth sat on the bed, as perplexed
people go on about having to label yourself. to be involved in a conversation about pop
He looked as if he was in some sort of pain. music as your grandmother would be, dead or
Robin and Elizabeth are The Cocteau Twins. alive, and I nd it hard to think that she has ever
If you wondered why we were all brought danced. She rubs her ngers.
together, it was to talk about The Cocteau Twins, At that time, had you nothing planned, did
or not talk, or try to talk. At the end of our you know where you were going, or where you
talk-not-talk I tell Robin that I have a conclusion would be pushed? Elizabeth cannot quite ick
The species cocteaus
about The Coctwins. geminus emerges
this memory into play. Robin answers.
I conclude that The Cocteau Twins are I think this is probably the last place she
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From sight, from mind. Loss, and gain. The Cocteau Twins
new record suggests
Talking to Elizabeth, she makes me so frustrated innite distance, or
I could hit her over the head with a lager bottle. at least a massive
Hearing her sing, she just leaves me moved. space. Its rst boom
When did you realise you could sing? is like an avalanche.
Robin answers: It was a Cocteau Twins From there they
Liz and Robin: rehearsal. When we rst started she would never wing a course over
Youre a wee
bastard, you are sing until Will went home for his tea. soundscapes that
Elizabeth boldly interferes: He fucking told hypothesise Phil Spector producing
Will hed heard me sing and Spellbound. Till I heard this, I considered
he hadnt. Liz and Rob a Banshees for the bedsit: Liz
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Look At My Squalor!
If this
to the extraordinarily twisted bottleneck
guitar and harmonica at the end, Well Of
Misery exemplies the range and logic of
Nicks songwriting and the staggering musical
imagination that has gone into its realisation.
Wings Off Flies is a malevolent word-
association game on the themes of life, loss
Im
and retribution. Wickedly funny, its also worth
mentioning that when Mick Harveys drums
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bailing out
mess you might have expected, it left behind the
nest examples of its art in The Bad Seed and
Mutiny two four-track EPs that shone through
the amorphous mass of transparent mediocrity
released in 1983. Both are testaments of romantic
daring and sick obsessiveness, full of feverish
images of guilt, pictures of murder that are
simultaneously horrendous and secretly attractive.
It was at that point that it rst became clear
that Nick Caves songwriting was departing from
every mode known to rock and developing into
some new, iridescent form, by turns trenchant
and direct, epic and overblown. Meanwhile,
the music was hurling itself into a state of wild,
epileptic disorder.
And yet in the midst of the crash, Nick
captured the mood of modern Britain with an
acute perception that the desperate, depressing
worthiness of a Weller could never have
approached: At night my body blushed to the
whistle on the birch, he raved. With a little
practise I learned to use it on myself .
With that line, ostensibly referring to religion, he
encapsulated the masochism of a nation that seems
to be yielding any notion of individual power to
a higher authority. It was a reaction against the
dulling of the imagination. It ended The Birthday
Party in the only way possible violently.
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In The Ghetto
the latest voyeurs stumbling around in search form at all, but he has some method of tuning external factors are basically quite supercial.
of standing space amid the dirty laundry. the instrument that can produce the most I would like to consider myself totally alone
I always think its important to show people amazing noises without the use of any effects and above those inuences, which is to do
where you live, he continues. whatsoever. He would regard using footpedals with developing a character that is sufciently
So what are the chances that Nick Cave will or whatever as a hopelessly middle class, public strong not to be inuenced by the way that other
give himself away? Show us the bleeding heart he school form of playing. people think, but to develop a moral code that
delights in setting against the swastika? Where the music is simple and direct, though, is not under the inuence of ordinary laws and
Well, rst wed have to distinguish just which the lyrics have developed a new complexity. The religious laws and be able to live under that
one of the many faces on show, both here and images are direct and violent, but theres always without a nagging conscience.
elsewhere, precisely is Nick Cave. His art is one of something deeper and darker than the surface
dramatic fakery, executed with a wicked delight indicates. It makes demands on the listener that Murder, of course, looms large in Caves scheme
in defying expectation. Nick describes with a typical arrogance. of things.
Of course theres the Wild Man Of Rock/ I see it in same the way as a tight, tense drama My songs are fairly harmless vehicles for
Thinking Man Of The Modern Age dichotomy in the cinema my songs require you to listen to expressing what I might entertain within my
between the most readily recognisable Nick Cave the storyline from beginning to end, to listen to mind, Cave says. The things that I write
stage personae and the calm and contemplative and understand each line. Otherwise you get lost about are things that, outside of the obvious
demeanour of Nick Cave the interviewee. But his in the same way as you would if you decided to difculties, I would like to witness. I dont dwell
gallery of masks contains less easily classiable visit the toilet in the nal scenes of Taxi Driver on these themes in order to be controversial.
characters than that some borrowed from and expect to know what the lm is about. There are things that I do for those reasons but
history, some from classical ction, some from As he proclaims, he has abandoned any theyre very deliberate and obvious things that
the most hallowed museums of rocknroll. careerist notions that he might have entertained. are making a comment on the idea of being
In his songs ction merges into reality: the Its a brave attempt to escape the tyrannies of controversial, and how ridiculous and shallow
shadow of Raskolnikov mingles with Hamlet; commercial punishment and reward. such a way of life is.
Caves own creations Gun, King Ink, The Dim I would like to escape dening my own You mean the vacuity of the good-old
Locator mix with hybrids like Saint Huck. reality in terms of punishment and reward, in fashioned shock value?
All of them are partly, but never entirely, Cave preference to what I consider to be good and bad. Well In the case of the swastika Ive always
himself. His latest fascination stares down at us Those lines in Mutiny referring to used it in the most deliberately moronic fashion.
from the wall. punishment and reward were intended to point Ill also do that in the writing, by inserting a line
Ive just joined the Elvis Presley Fan Club, he the nger at religion, and why people believed that is deliberately shocking or irresponsible. Its
grins. Theyre sending me some posters; cant in the conventional concepts of good and bad, nding those symbols and thoughts that are far
imagine Ill go to many of the meetings though. which are based on greed and fear. more shocking in certain contexts than they are
The Presley infatuation is reected in a vocal Im very interested in discovering something in others. As Ive said, certain clichs in the right
inection at the end of Box For Black Paul; within myself that is not affected by other forces. context can still be reasonably effective
more specically theres the next single, a version I have very strong feelings that the way I am is As the conversation continues in a local pub,
of In The Ghetto. not due to the inuence of my parents or my an old man leans across to our table, and xes
Theres very little in it to suggest that its environment that I was brought up in any Nick with a stare.
recorded with anything other than the Youre an arrogant fellow, the
greatest respect and admiration, he
says with a certain bemusement. Ive got a right to be arrogant. old man accuses.
Ive got a right to be, Im a
I love it but I can imagine a
Birthday Party fan might have some
difculty knowing what to make of it.
Im famous. Im Napoleon famous person, Nick replies. Ive
just done a European tour.
Oh yeah, whats your name?
As with most of Caves fascinations, his Im Napoleon, answers Nick, with
interest in Presley is in his decline, in the a twinkle.
artice rather than the art. Yes, the role of the irresponsible artist
The inuence that I get from any ctional as provocateur, as enemy of the tidy world
character, he says, is from their cartoon of liberal moralists has been in existence
selves, the point at which they themselves for some time now, long enough now to
become clichs. In that sense, all of my own qualify for clich status.
characters are cartoons of themselves as well, All the same, some of us are grateful
in that they begin with a stock clich that that the rich tapestry of rocknroll has
people can latch on to, that will trigger off been splattered with the pus and gore of
the desired initial impression. The Velvet Undergrounds, the Iggy Pops,
You have to remember what a clich the Foetuses and the Nick Caves, gures
is which is something that was formerly who will play with re and seek to scorch
powerful, but through overuse has become the glossy package of the shiny pop fantasy.
meaningless. You can restore its meaning by Nick Cave is an ardent irrationalist, too
putting it in a different setting. complex a creature to plod the straight
line of the liberal path. His images are a
Musically, From Her to Eternity is a perpetual provocation contrived to throw
sparse sound, snagged with Blixa Bargelds even his admirers into a state of crisis.
corruption of the blues guitar. As a
longstanding friend of Nicks, Blixa was I would like to dene this irrationalism as
the natural choice not only because the ultimate principle of innity in our art
Neubautens philosophy is in accord with the yearning for meaning in madness the
Caves search for a simpler, more directly continuation of life by other means, including
violent form of expression, but because as the issues of guilt, the work of mourning as
a non-musician he is incapable of seeing the reection of this loneliness of innity. At
things in a conventional manner. its start suffering; and at its end morality.
DEREK RIDGERS
As far as I can work out, Blixa cant Hans-Jurgen Syberberg, taken from Hitler:
actually play the guitar in the conventional A Film From Germany.
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SIOUXSIE &
THE BANSHEES
Hyaena
(Wonderland)
sounds wilfully disorganised. Its we knew and loved to death as Who cares? Love it! conception. Again.
logic is strict, just unhinged. The Cure. He doesnt care what we Steve Sutherland Steve Sutherland
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Nigel Preston Keep driving. read the name right through. Pin band is the voice of God.
Mick Mercer its plump, squirming body to a Steve Sutherland
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song about an animal (you go wont have a name at all. Still, Exuberant youths become
for our furry friends, dont you?) they can be relied on to deliver strapping lads, the rebel
and ripe for reproduction. So a bit of clout, and this bristles yell controlled but
may I recommend it to you as with hostile voice and scorched- not calm. There is
a wise career move? earth guitar. Not much of a song, smooth cloud cover,
Oh, sod you, then. unfortunately. but you cant hide
Julie Burchill Adam Sweeting the lightning storm
within.
Mick Mercer
cosmic Piaf! A plodding tortuous has crashed into the Hot 100 at Remixed and remodelled
dirge = a mark of sensitivity! lets see, now number 100. with strings, choirs and all the
Screeching like a doolally shwife Oh well, its magnicent all production of a Hooked On
= passion! These precious little the same: a gorgeous swell of Classics effort, Overground,
people are one of the nest sensurrounding warmth. Voices, Placebo Effect and Red
arguments I have ever heard for Where will the indie charts Over White do The Banshees
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1985
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Amphetamine Logic
CARELE SS
WHI SPERS
Steve Sutherland swaps badinage with Andy Eldritch of
The Sisters Of Mercy. Eldritch reveals little about his
new LP, but we learn that he intends to eat lemons on tour
t
he self-styled Mr Eldritch drags on his fag and takes
another of those long, practised, meditative pauses. Ive
just asked him how come he wasnt asked to sing on the
Band Aid single. Almost a minute elapses.
He exhales audibly: Thats a tough one, isnt it?
This self-same Mr Eldritch, stubble-chinned and bone-dry
behind shades in a Leeds living room, is explaining why The
Sisters Of Mercys debut album, First And Last And Always,
has taken so damn long to crawl into the light of day. He
conrms the rumours of illness, revelling in revealing just
what he wants and no more. Just like his songs.
Ive got the scars to prove it. I think I just started working
too hard and, at the end of last summer, my body said, No
thank you. This has gone far enough. Itll end in tears. So
Ive calmed down a bit I enjoy it so much, being strung out
for a very long time Im told you cant do it for that long.
This is, of course, the only possible reaction from a man
associated with the doomier side of existence.
Doomy is a housewives word for realistic. Its a
dangerous world.
Now this Mr Eldritch is a man of starchy intelligence,
the sort of fellow you can say words like art to and not feel
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like a dickhead. And so it was that I asked him You have to laugh at it because you have to
whether his art informed his life or vice versa. see it for what it might do to the nations youth
And, naturally enough, this was exactly the sort and, God forbid, to the nations housewives to
of question he loves. hear Amphetamine Logic.
After so much practice, its very difcult not This Mr Eldritch, as youll have doubtless
to live it so, yeah, the lifestyle informs the art. surmised, is one wry customer, a bit of a master
I keep putting myself in this godawful position when it comes to a wind-up and I, too, have had
quite deliberately. Its possible to get out of it but my moments so we joust a bit and I ask him what
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Ive chosen not to. hed say to somebody who considered his antics
The next question is, Will there come a point pathetic because some people really are ill while
where you cant? And then what will you do? his maladies are generally self-induced? THE SISTERS OF MERCY
And the answer is, I dont know. I shall probably Id probably tell them to fuck off. He rasps First And Last And Always
just keel over. and I take it to be laughter. Telling people to (Merciful Release/WEA)
I tell this Mr Eldritch that I think hes a damn fuck off, that sense of glorious vindication, is a James Dean is alive!
good actor, creating for himself the classic role primary, motivating factor, I think. Hes living in a at
of romantic victim. Rocknroll in Leeds disguised
He rather likes this outlaws, eh? as Andrew Eldritch
notion too.
Ive spent so long
Telling people to fuck off, Arent we just! No!
We have appetites!
a 24-hours-a-day
enigma, complete
doing this that I cant
distance the two. And
that glorious vindication, is a Were human! We
have needs! Its
with permanently
afxed shades.
its more interesting
than what I was
primary motivating factor about time we were
pandered to.
Last year it
seemed that
before. I was so shot Such as? success had eluded the Sisters once and
when I wrote the lyrics on the album that theres Such as the 12 fresh lemons I have to have for all. But their new album is packed with
no distancing of persons at all. Its not a problem every night on the next tour. glistening gems, and just as Andys beat-up
to live up to it, its just a problem to live, period. This is exactly the stuff of which legends are crow hat appears to be riveted to his head,
The way I seem to end up living these days, Im made and, of course, Mr Eldritch forever keeps so his lugubrious baritone-drone rivets
very aware of how fast the bloods going round an eye on legend. But I wonder, can someone the attention in turns commanding, then
and how high the sugar level is because Ive been so cryptic with such an advanced, nay, chronic, inviting, following a path wrought with morbid
forced to be aware of it. sense of irony ever attain that status? depression and reeking of misery.
I now decide its time Mr Eldritch and I No, because I always let people know just that I have heard a million conversations going
stopped beating around the bush and started bit too much. It disturbs them. where theyve been before/I dont care for words
talking serious drugs so I inform him that, in my Mr Eldritchs favourite word is oblique and that dont belong. Ah, music to hum over the
humble opinion, the second side of First And yet his followers tend to be the new Goths, the three-minute warning. Yet the doom-ridden,
Last And Always is about being wasted, nding it ersatz Siouxsies. Strange. Mr Eldritchs fantasy gloom-trodden world of the Sisters is but half
hard to cope and relishing every agonised second. is much more subversive. He likes to irt with their appeal. Delicacy showers the spheres of
He smirks: It would be clichs. He likes twisting his Black Planet as Waynes infectious guitaring
dishonest to write anything sources. Goddamn, he even slopes and spirals around words cradled with
more homely. I dont think acknowledges his sources! dark innuendo, rhymes invested with sparks
the bands particular
pleasures are destructive.
Ten things you The Sisters once recorded
Gimme Shelter.
of aggression, and a chorus that once heard, is
never to be forgotten.
Its horses for courses. At
our age, you generally know
didnt want to know Everybodys doing
exactly the same thing to
The Sisters supplement the intensity of
Walk Away with the bittersweet tang of No
whats good for you and
what isnt and, most of the
about Mr Eldritch a greater or lesser degree.
Were just rather shameless
Time to Cry, while A Rock And A Hard Place
breathes life into the ossied remains of
time, you stick to whats 1. His favourite lm is The Blues about it. People dont like to post-punk using Eldritchs dulcet tones to bind
good for you. None of the Brothers be reminded of it. Theyd together the ornaments of instrumentation as
songs on the album are 2. He supports Manchester much rather we went out they dance on the grave of circumstance.
about being a victim of ones United there like messiahs from The second side unveils Celtic guitars that
own pleasures except in the 3. He is currently courting Josie another planet whod never career through arid wastelands until theyre
case of getting emotionally from Vicious Pink heard of Chuck Berry swept up by the blistering chorus of First
involved with people who 4. He owns a spifng collection or he whispers this bit And Last And Always. The surge of drums
arent very good for you. of Likely Lads videos Led Zeppelin. nally yields to a sustaining piano note that
So what sort of 5. He idolises Jake Thackeray If its only rocknroll, is stretches suspense to a point only dreamt of
irresponsible hero is this 6. Hes currently launching a this Mr Eldritch really happy by Hitchcock. God forbid, but these songs are
man in black who stalks campaign to get Reg Varney as being a Sister? almost explosive enough to launch a goth
the streets of Leeds 4 in a the next Dr Who and, failing that, Smug might be a better revival (the third this year?).
battered cowboy hat? Eleanor Bron word. Were in a good Have Mercy! And pass the razor blades.
The sort of irresponsible 7. He studied French and German position. We can step in Andrews sense of humour rattles with such
hero who makes it very at St Johns, Oxford and then and out of the mainstream ominous overtones that laughter takes fright
clear that certain things Chinese at Leeds University and the band decide whats and takes ight. His prowling voice veers
are irresponsible. Theres 8. His black coat/cloak was given required, not someone else. dangerously close to pastiche, but the songs
no actual propagation of to him by The Gun Club Is there anyone else, I ask, are so striped with splinters of power and pain,
irresponsibility on the 9. He owns the 12-inch of who Mr Eldritch reckons is his words remain dangerous.
records and thats why you Careless Whisper although he doing anything worthwhile? Here, all past promises have been fullled:
need detachment, irony with doesnt own a record player. Its He pauses that pause: the Sisters have successfully accumulated a
a capital I. You have to be important to have the artefact if Roy Kinnear, always. startling array of timeless jewels.
clinical about certain aspects the records that good. My, he is a smug bastard It can only be a matter of time before they
DEREK RIDGERS
of portraying any persona, 10. Theres a picture of Jimmy isnt he? accumulate success.
even if its your genuine self. White above his replace Well, yeah. Why not? Ted Mico
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No More Mad
DeAth
BobCult
claustrophobia of Pornography,
MM, 8 June 1985, p34 checked himself out of the funny
farm where he turned out The
Berlin bolthole of brooding depression So, no more Mad Bob. Next time,
that shaped Faith, something else. Again.
cleaved through the Steve Sutherland
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A Suitable
Anyway, my big sister was going to art
school at the time and she used to make us
toys out of felt, nice things to put in this two-
foot window into Noddyland, and my brother
got the idea that it would be really good fun to
introduce a sort of Texas Chainsaw Massacre
element. So there I was, sitting up in my
CaseFor
bunk-bed before I went to sleep and suddenly
I noticed hed cut Noddys head off, and it
really, really scared me.
I went really mental Noddy had such
a sweet face, he was always Mr Happy, and
I remember thinking at the time that it was
a really evil thing to do. Even now it seems
pretty awful. Uh dyou know, the biggest
Treatment
evil I could imagine then was Catwoman.
Remember they used to have bubblegum cards?
Well, I used to have Catwoman under my pillow.
I used to think that was pretty dangerous, my
rst stirrings of lust.
But cutting Noddys head off I was in
trauma! And at the same time, Father Christmas
arrived in our street on a lorry. What a pile of
cack! It destroyed my faith in things like that.
Has Robert Smith taken the cure? He says yes. Still, I dont suppose people of my generation
keep that kind of thing going for their kids. I
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Steve Sutherland isnt convinced. Now read on mean, how can you possibly believe in the tooth
fairy with a Conservative government? You
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Sick Boy
dont get something for nothing any more.
There are a lot of references to dreams in my
songs. It seems to bother other people but its
never really worried me that I have vivid dreams.
I nd it very reassuring. Its not always nice to
wake up with your whole body vibrating like an
engine it sometimes takes three minutes to get
back to normal but thats OK.
You know, just a casual murder No, not at all. I just decided one night. I
was doing absolutely nothing, yknow? It got
to the point when cleaning your teeth seemed
I ever met him, Id kill him. Every ght Ive ever youd probably end up confessing anyway. But too much bother. Its cack when you get to that
been in, Ive thought Im ghting that person but its not that big a step, not really. Were gonna be stage, so I tried to learn to water-ski and things
Ive never met him. Not through want of trying. rotting in 50 years time anyway so why not rot like that the other extreme. It actually shocked
What on earth did the blackguard do? now and give someone some pleasure from it? my body back into a happy status quo. I didnt
Ah, thats the story that will remain forever If someone dies naturally, everyone cries. There get t but, at the same time, I didnt keel over
secret. He once did something not actually to may as well be someone dancing round the grave and spend a month in a rest home which is what
me, but I always vowed to avenge it. It was quite and it may as well be me. everyone said I should do.
an awful thing that I witnessed. I thought that idea was bollocks you know
See, Im still very moral, I still have the same As I said, Robert Smith is happy, even when your own body or you should do. The older
ethics I always had but I dont really think that, hes contemplating the inevitable. Can you get, the more you know it. Im afraid I can
if I did kill someone casually, there would be any this metamorphosis from gloom to glee be no longer wake up in the morning and boast that
retribution if I didnt get caught. Id just like to permanent or is it just another of his infamous I havent got a hangover.
do it as an experience. I wouldnt like to torture emotional see-saws? Me neither. Never. Wonder how this affects
somebody or anything like that. Well, Im very aware of my periods of Boy Smiths public image?
Ive decided this No More Mad Bob instability and Ive tried to think, If its going Id be hard-pressed to imagine what my
business might be a little premature, but I press to happen to me, I may as well use it for some public image is, to be honest. Indifferent. It
on regardless, wondering if Smith thinks hed benet, but last year all it succeeded in doing varies, actually, from place to place. Here its
feel like a different person burdened with the was getting in the way. I couldnt really do very obvious from the general media myth thats
knowledge that hes taken a life? anything at all whereas now I generally feel perpetuated character assassination, thats the
Yeah. The thing that always put me off is that much better. Ive cut down on my vices Ive phrase Im after. But in America Im considered
its not really the sort of thing you can mend. only kept drinking, everything else has gone a really radical bloke, a really dangerous person,
TOM SHEEHAN
And what if you grow to like it? out of the window. on the Wanted list, because they lter through
Well, there is that. And if you dont like it, Everything? the more sordid elements from England and
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then they also invent their own oh, and also, I was getting a bit too close to falling into is, though, despite all this gaiety, Roberts
when Im in America, I misbehave more than I Mad Bob and people were saying that to me, beginning to act as if hes old. He recently told
do in England because its far away from home. jokingly mainly inspired by what you wrote some other hack that hed always anticipated
In Japan, its teenybop hysteria. We went about The Top actually. People picked up on being dead by 25 but here he is, no grey hairs in
mega there we were on television arriving at what you wrote and decided that I was going sight and tter than ever.
the station. But in New Zealand were still doom mental. Well, for a while I was a bit unstable but I feel old because of what people have been
and gloom, so when we go there, we only smile I think its horrible when people make a career saying to me. Ive consciously done interviews
behind closed doors. out of being something. with Just 17 just because its pap. All these
What, professional loonies, like professional 17-year-olds are coming along saying, Well,
I think you deserve an update on this Cockneys? as an established band As a famous and
schizophrenic Smith character, just to help you Yeah, its cack. The last thing I wanted to do eventually it gets to you.
make up your own mind. Hes writing a book on was drive my jeep into a swimming pool. But I defy all these people to name me
The Cure in conjunction with a French lady. The I dont think this record heralds us doing someone we are comparably old to. I look at the
book, he claims, will be far more honest than anything. I know Im supposed to be selling ve of us in a metaphysical mirror and were still
anything I could cook up. He speeds around in a it but I never see it like that. Pornography or 100 years younger than all these people who are
four-wheel-drive jeep which his friends consider Faith are peculiar in that quite a lot of people physically younger because theyre so fucking
a post-nuclear vehicle or what? probably think If I could only listen to one worried about nothing.
He owns a at in Maida Vale with a album for ever and ever, it would be this album. I mean, when I was young I didnt feel young
soundproofed bedroom to shield him from But I dont think this ones like that because it but I still feel younger than any new group
the professional writer of musicals who lives doesnt inspire that kind of emotion. except The Jesus And Mary Chain.
upstairs. Hes decided to holiday in London this Its the same as when The Human League I feel a story coming on.
year to catch up on all the movies hes missed brought out Dare I thought it was a really The occasion was me being more drunk than
He saw Ghostbusters three times at the Marble good collection of songs. It didnt send shivers I had been all year, my one night out in London
Arch ABC, because he enjoyed watching the 300 down my spine but Ive got drunk to it and clubland. Seriously, I cant risk more than one
teenies punching the air during the theme tune danced to it a lot over the years. night out. See, we were doing Top Of The Pops,
It reminded me of a David Cassidy concert. I tried to make this album really obvious and we usually drink loads and loads of vodka
Not that I ever went to one, you understand, but because I was aware that people thought I was in the bar beforehand, which explains our
its the sort of thing, looking back, that I wish getting too obscure for anyones good. I suppose frighteningly exciting performances.
I had done. they are still obscure in a way but theyre as plain But this time we went to the bar afterwards
He never drinks on planes You cant as I can be. Thats why I nd most songs in the and we stayed there until we got thrown out,
drink on an eight-hour ight, pass out then Top 20 at the moment really boring, because by which time we were pretty hot so we decided
go on stage Well, you can, but then youre theyre like end of conversation you dont to go to eat, but I had to go to this studio rst,
Spandau Ballet. really need to bother. supposedly to do backing vocals on the new
His back garden is a football single and listen to the brass section,
pitch-cum-dogs toilet I havent
plucked up the courage to play I was being sick in the ladies yknow, to give em the Popes seal
of approval.
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Heavy Heavy Heavy
Thisaintthesummeroflove
Hippies, hippies everywhere. Or are they punks? Or are they
punks down the Kings Road.
Its that guy in the NatWest advert, says Ian.
The one with the mohican haircut who spits at
psychedelic hard rockers? Steve Sutherland comes face to face people and head-butts walls.
Ians dead proud of having missed punk. He
with The Cult and finds theyre all these things and less was in Canada at that time, in the army, and
when he heard the Pistols, of course, it changed
his life. He picked up on the vibe after the event.
i
m a nave, romantic kid. Im supposed this band are and I suppose its a paradox. Were I think its really nice, whats happening
to be some middle-class drop-out whos a rock band that wasnt too acceptable a year now, because its unquantiable. Because so
quite well-educated, but Ive got me ead and a half ago, it was like putting your head in a many things have gone in the past, I think what
up me ass and I just walk around going, guillotine. The times have changed a bit now. we do is an amalgamation of all those different
Everythings beautiful. I think wed better start again. inuences and its gonna be a lot longer lasting.
I think wed better start again A lot of things have been in the negative,
Kids take us on a more serious level than they The Cult are a rock band with accoutrements. A
do a lot of other bands and a lot of journalists swagger away from Black Sabbath. Something so
seem to nd that very annoying. They seem to old that theyre new. The rock of ages.
think that what we do is shrouded in a mysticism Everything in this world right now is fast,
that we create in order to hide a basic lack of fast, fast, Ian informs me, ddling with his Led
understanding, but were not that clever. Were Zeppelin badge. Fast food, fast TV, fast sex, fast
just two lads from the north, right? Were doing everything. And people just skim on the surface
what comes naturally e makes a noise with is all the time and I think a lot of journalists look at
mouth and I play guitar. Thats what we do. us on the surface and pick up on certain things.
I think wed better start again Like the North American Indian thing but that
Ian Astburys one of those people whos didnt just happen to me overnight, that was an
embroidered his pretty uneventful youth into experience that happened to me over ve or six
a diary of momentous incidents and traumatic years. And hippies
turning points and told it to so many people so Ah, hippies. Glad he brought it up. The new
many times that he probably now believes it. Cult albums called Love and there are some
The rst gig I ever done was lmed for TV, out there who will tell you its all you need. Not
my fth ever gig with Southern Death Cult me. When MM branded Ian as a spitter for Neil
was reviewed by the press. Anything Ive done, The Hippy, I wasnt exactly blameless. And now
people have wanted to know what its all about. heres this man who claims hes a boy, with hair
I just nd it so amusing that all these people keep halfway down his back, wearing a cowboy hat
slagging us off and I couldnt give a shit about it. with an owls feather in it, snakeskin cowboy
People have tried to pound us into the ground boots with gold points and a Cure badge,
but they just cant get a hold of it. staring into middle space and asking
When Ian Astbury talks, he reminds me Whats a hippy? A lot of kids who come
of Nick Rhodes thick but
authoritative, intoning the
most commonplace truism or
embarrassing drivel with such
We re not that clever. We re just
haughtiness that youd believe he
believes hes imparting some real lads from the north, right? We re
pearl of wisdom.
Billy Duffys different but the
same hes condent but sharper,
doing what comes naturally
he listens whereas Ian, for all the community to see us havent even got any conception of
spiel hes about to unleash, exhibits, in his own what a hippy is except for maybe a teacher at
favoured condemnation of others, a very closed school with long hair and a beard. I got called
mind. For someone so intent on learning, Ian a hippy by some 14-year-old kids the other
never listens, he just stares away into a more day I wonder where they got it from?
important world of his own and sometimes I wonder
deigns to descend to my level to say his peace Look, what the fuck is a hippy? I think
piece. Id say he was stoned but people see a hippy as some guy with long hair
The funniest thing about the music business and glasses with a peace sign and ared trousers
is that the people who are most into the its just an image, like punk.
rocknroll clich lifestyle are the ones whose What does punk mean now? asks Billy, a
TOM SHEEHAN
public image is the least like that. We dont take less bolshie Idol. Here comes the answer: Its
drugs, we never have. Thats just a personal way a deprecating term. Lets go and laugh at the
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says Billy. Maybe now is the time for well, sees that Duran Duran arent really saying
the positive. Thats been a terrible word for a few what they feel so they go onto something else,
years, almost frightening, but maybe what were something a little bit heavier, something that
involved with is the rst thing thats positive. makes a statement. And then they become bored
Every other fashion hippies, acid rock, punk with that and they end up with us.
seemed to be against something. Well, were What Ians pitching for is progressive rock, the
not necessarily against in that obvious way. notion of something more deep and meaningful
I think wed better start again than something else. That way self-indulgence
lies. And worse MM, 19th October 1985, p38
The Cult, live and on record, are the most Were skimming the surface of something
po-faced, humourless group its possible to quite spiritual THE CULT
contemplate. They deny the brighter side of See what I mean? Love
existence for the sake of their precious image, We dont really want to quantify it. I nd Beggars Banquet
complete with pseudo-religious trimmings. it very, very rare to bump into people who are The only thing
Theres no religion in this country, mourns communicating on the same level because more deplorable
poor Ian. Christianity, the spiritual side, is a theyre so hung up on looking cool or hanging than half-baked
very special part of peoples lives, it gives them round with the right people. Its so hard to meet dogma is barely
strength just to live and the only thing for kids to people who are tuned in to something more than understood half-
look to is the music. the rational world. Were called hippies because baked dogma
Music matters. A 14-year old kid buys a were into life, right? pilfered from a
Duran Duran record, grows up a little bit, and Look, theres certain things we just cant culture 6,000 miles and 200 years away.
talk about because theres an incredible danger With Love, The Cults second album,
of being misinterpreted. Its really sad and they continue to propagate a half-chewed
unfortunate but thats the way it is. bubblegum wrapper of redskin info for people
I think wed better start again who think that a Voodoo Chile is a Mexican
Hotpot. They continue to celebrate the ways
of the old people with clamour and clich
wigwams, squaws, moccasins, and ritual
re-branding. The Cult dribble a lot.
If nothing else, Love will prove that the
band have done for rock tribalism what
General Amherst did for the Sioux nation. The
benign general offered the Indians blankets
to keep them warm in winter blankets
impregnated with smallpox bacilli. The
Hippy Cult:
images, lyrics and titles are mainly elemental
Ian Astbury, the usual earth, re, water pife but the
Mark Brzezicki, surprise comes from the cover, which bears a
Billy Duffy and striking likeness to an old Love cover after a
Jamie Stewart
tortuous journey through an alimentary canal.
Nirvana plunges into a barrage of metal
guitars where risible pastiche masquerades
as rousing chorus. The Indians believed in life
after death not before it!
With each successive funereal beat and
onslaught of Duffys unchained guitar, the Cult
sound more and more like Led Zeppelin.
The chords of Revolution descend, and
their songs go down faster than a lead balloon.
The Cult used to offer excitement not ashes
scraped from yesterdays joss stick. Now they
simply continue to continue.
Hollow Man and Brother Wolf, Sister
Moon (oh brother!) both employ the same
bluesy thump as they stomp through old
hunting grounds like buffalo on Mogadon.
It sounds like a 45 playing at 33. In fact
its 69 playing in 85. All this may sound as
if I detest The Cult but I dont. She Sells
Sanctuary was one of the few pinnacles of this
summers charts but its appearance among
this clutch of witless, listless and soulless
twaddle serves only as a painful reminder of
what The Cult could, and should, be doing.
We deserve more than pathetic hippies
reliving their dream and our nightmare.
Forget Big Country. Forget Gods Zoo. Forget
U2. And most of all forget Bury My Heart At
Wounded Knee.
The Cult should bury their head in shame.
Ted Mico
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The Cocteau Twins:
Simon Raymonde,
Liz Frazer and
Robin Guthrie
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Worlds
apart How do you interview The Cocteau Twins? Steve
Sutherland, who considers them to be something like
the voice of God, doesnt know. Well, he sat down and MM, 16 November 1985, p24
Some justification
past. Stuff, incidentally, that I stick by.
The things youre allowed to write! Robins big answer
Robins smiling. You went and wrote Why not?
The Cocteau Twins make my favourite music something about God in one of our reviews.
in the whole wide world ever and, on 16 and
22 November, they release two four-track EPs.
You said we were the voice of God or something.
I hated that. It gives people the wrong They confess
I want to talk about them but I know its no impression. It gives people your impression. Robin: It almost gets to the stage where you
good. They want them well-treated because If I read that, Id think, No fucking way am just want to turn round to somebody and say,
they envisage a Cocteau Twins backlash on I buying that! Yeah, Im really magical and mysterious,
the horizon and they dont think its fair. Just And another time you said I hadnt thats what I think about myself. Im weird and
because they dont t in, folks think they refuse developed much further than some Banshees obscure and it rubs off on the music
to t in, but its not the same thing at all. album and that we were too loud. That was Simon: Yeah, were religious, spiritual
Theres nothing wilful about the Cocteaus insulting. The idea of three people totally Liz: Would you like some tea or coffee just
refusal to play along, they just do what they do, stationary on stage with no af liation at all to now?
thats all. rocknroll making the loudest fucking noise Robin: Theres some tins arent there? Ill
Hey, they live on our planet, believe it or youve every heard kind of appeals. have another beer.
not. They eat, they drink, they see what we see And that thing you said to Robert Smith Liz: Youll want a fuckin straw with it next
and hear what we hear. Its just that what they about his lipstick! Liz is trembling. get you pissed quicker.
create when theyre locked away somewhere has What? Robin: Got any gin?
no bearing on any of this whatsoever. My task, You said Liz Frazer wants to know why Liz: Um er NO! I distinctly remember
I suppose, is to reconcile this into some sort you wear your lipstick like that. That was very you nishing it off last night. Dont drink
of sense but all I can come up with is intricate naughty of you Steve, very, very naughty. I was Robin: But Im getting my hair cut tonight.
babble which, even in the act of praising, seems so embarrassed. Liz: Yes, I know. Youll fall asleep and wake
TOM SHEEHAN
to tarnish their pure simplicity. Contrary to common belief, The Cocteau up with a skinhead thatll fuckin sort you out.
Ill admit at this point that I was going to wax Twins care. A lot. Youll never drink again.
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My method before it oated away.
Liz: Oh, thats fucking disgusting
Well, what was there left? disgusting. They must think were a bunch o
The personality angle wasnt perverts or something.
paying dividends because, as Robin: Take this sh/Harder than roe/
the antithesis of all they are, Who sauntered away.
it couldnt. The enormous Liz: Jesus!
review wasnt on either Robin: Julianne was rst called a genius/
all that verbiage trying to Julianne a genius too/Our song is framed by a
describe something deantly genius/Suddenly she got up and turned it on.
inarticulate. No. I was left Liz: Denitely a drug-induced hysteria.
with otsam, with various Simon: Im a prisoner of the fence.
meets in various places, with Robin: I dont mend no fence. Look at the
circumstantial evidence. sleeve notes. It says here that The Cocteau Twins
Whether it comes any closer to are three girls, right? And that I sing all the
anything, whether it helps, backing vocals on the LP and that my backing
I dont know. But anyway vocals are psychedelic but never freaky.
Meet one: Liz and Robins Liz: Bloody hell!
at in Chiswick. Ground oor.
Clean and bare with a Siamese
kitten called Otto (after the Mere mortal concerns
Can I go now? punk in Repo Man) who bites Self-parody?
Liz thoroughly
enjoys another
and scratches and has never Robin: It happened to us about a year and a
photo session heard of house-training. No half ago. It happens to everybody. You cant do
books about so no clues there. anything about it
A record player. A video. Lots
Liz Frazer of videos. A photo of Lillian Gish in the toilet.
The door handle comes off in your hand and I confess
Small, very funny and very, very shy. you have to keep the lid down or the cat might If the process of this interview is to ascertain
At the photo studio, Liz is being made up, fall into the bowl. some truth, to nudge some reality, to realise
having her face and hair done. By her side, by Meet two: Riverside, for That Petrol Emotion. there arent any answers then Ive failed. If the
the mirror, is a note pad into which she jots Meet three: the photo session in Covent essence of the piece is to avoid an obsessive
every layer of foundation, every tint of eye Garden. A small studio and a pint or two in the autopsy of The Cocteau Twins problematic
shadow for further reference. pub. (Liz is on cider and Babycham, fact-ends). relationship to the interview, Ive let you
Thats typical, says Robin. Did you notice Meet four: Simon sees the Banshees at down badly. Its here, its inescapable and Im
at home by the record player, theres a piece of Hammersmith Odeon. circling, searching for something I cant dene,
paper with instructions on it about how the Meet ve: the 4AD night at Croydon struggling to discover is the big factor or the
stereo works, step by step. And by the video Underground theyre very much the visiting conveniently mystical cop-out.
theres another list of how to work it. And she stars. Robin hates it. Certainly the people I met and the records
wants to learn to drive can you imagine that? I hear dont match up too well, dont t. Im
Oh yes, a very Liz thing to do.
Temptation speaking of what stubbornly wont be spoken
of and its the best I can do to tell you that of all
Robin Guthrie If anybody around pop today is enjoying the
fact that language obscures as much (and as
the outts Ive ever met the characters of The
Cocteau Twins are the least informative when
Fat, funny, delightfully sarcastic, he crimps his well) as it reveals its intentions, its Liz Frazer. applied to their music.
hair to stop it looking pubic. Her lyrics are noise games, not nonsense And naturally, in saying that, I open two
This thin guy with glasses comes up to him but emotion liberated from clich. When she options, each equally inappropriate: theyre not
in the Croydon Underground, brandishing a sings, my world moves and it means something fakers, they wear no masks, they hide nowhere,
poster advertising the 4AD night and asking for beyond and without all the blasted, blighted nor are they recipients for some mysterious
an autograph. Robin looks him up and down, baggage of linguistic nostalgia. muse. They dont act as ciphers for some
snorts his disapproval and begins to read it out. She uses words but the words never matter, spiritual genius descending from the either.
Xymox. Is that us? their sounds carry the fullest impact, her voice The Cocteau Twins just go and do it and if
No. the most desolate ever recorded cuts the crap they dont know, why the hell should I?
Wolfgang Press. Is that us? but cant avoid it. We cant handle The Cocteau
Uh no.
Dif Juz. Is that us?
Twins, we dont possess the critical apparatus to
do them justice. Its no big deal on their behalf, In the beginning was
No.
Well then, shouldnt you be going to get
no deliberate setting themselves apart from
the mainstream, no arrogant isolationism. Its the word
their autographs? simply that the channels we stomp down to beat That was the shittiest interview weve ever
The bloke slinks off, bemused. Robin turns to pop to a pulp and render it comfortable and done
me and says: Its bad enough when they want comprehensible dont lead us anywhere near Its OK.
you to sign Cocteau Twins stuff. The Cocteau Twins. But we said nothing, we talked about
Thats a very Robin thing to do. We dont touch them and yet still we try. nothing
In Japan, for instance, theyve published lyric Its OK.
Simon Raymonde sheets with all the albums, even renaming
Treasure at whim The Woman Who The
But what are you gonna write about?
Oh, Ill make it up. Ill write about you. Ill
Simon was disgusted by the Banshees at Gods Loved. think of something.
Hammersmith Odeon. He considered them Robin: Tell me if any of these words are what But that means were in your hands, were at
heavy metal. Worst of all, though, he Liz is singing, right? Im not joking. Let us rock your mercy
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considered the encores dishonest. you so/Rock you so good. The wave of the earth Aha, well the hack always has the last word.
Thats a very Simon thing to say. has got me all fooled now. Should have xed it This is it
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Morphine Paradise
a tinkers diddly one way or the Inside a cover that looks like a
other? What counts now is that NICK CAVE cross between the trip sequence
this is the Sisters best ever slice Tupelo from 2001 and a camels
of slime, with Andrew down in (Mute) afterbirth, those fun-loving
his boots as always but the rest There are those who would have Cocteau Twins bring you a four-
of the band delivering an edge you believe that this decrepit track selection of dead clever
that must make this a monster hit scuzzball and his infrequent Liz Fraser vocal gymnastics, a
with the previously uncommitted NME, 27 July 1985, p14 record releases represent the chorused 12-string guitar sound
housewife. Laugh if you want, but zenith of the alternative pop thats so rich it could kill a diabetic
far better Crazy Andrew than 100 THE CURE scene. For years I tried to convince at 40 paces and some rather
cuddly toys. In Between Days myself that I didnt loathe the indifferent lyrics. The closing
Barry McIlheney (Fiction) entire catalogue of this corrupter Sultitan Itan is a treat for the very
Three thoughts occur. One: how of small goths, but I am older tired to hallucinate to just before
does he do it? How on earth does and less charitable now. Boppy bedtime.
Smithy keep that face straight backbeat, though. Charles Shaar Murray
as he unloads these records? Caroline Sullivan
The Top was a schoolboyishly
cruel legs torn slowly from
helpless insects companion to
the Bunnymens contemporary
and equally silly-sod-psychedelic
Ocean Rain, while his butter-
wouldnt-melt Love Cats routine
was sublime, media-mocking TV.
The man is a comic to be rated
with Keaton.
MM, 1 June 1985, p27 Two: if I didnt believe New
Order to be as rich as Tsars, Id
THE CULT advise them to grab this record
MM, 1 June 1985, p27
MM, 23 November 1985, p30
She Sells Sanctuary and their own Temptation and
(Beggars Banquet) Power, Corruption And Lies and
SIOUXSIE & COCTEAU TWINS
She sells sanctuary, but will The to hotfoot it to the nearest court Echoes In A Shallow Bay
Cult sell any more records? Their of law. The monstrous scale, THE BANSHEES (4AD)
record sleeves may be getting nerve and cynicism of Smiths Cities In Dust The Great Spangled Fritillary
more graphically adventurous plagiarism, in a world where most (Wonderland) takes its name from a buttery;
and their name cant get any claim unique creative genius, has, I rather lost interest in this lot Melonella is more upbeat than
shorter but the swirling density oddly, to be admired. after Hyaena yielded one good the Cocteaus usual music, noisy
of their pulse-beat stays locked Three: either because of, or in single and little else. But Cities In almost; Pale Clouded White
inside the same blurred groove. spite of one and two, In Between Dust, a great rush of sound and feels like youre caught in a warm
Boy Duffys guitar is edgily set for Days a sneeringly off-hand a massively condent burst of snowstorm; and Eggs And Their
the heart of the sun great sitar debunking of all that Factorys pop, suggests a return to form. Shells is making love on a clifftop
impersonations! but The Cult nest seek so assiduously to Perhaps a bit intense for the with seabirds ying overhead. Am
are struggling. Still, the gothic mystify, is a good 45, easily the airwaves, and lacking the great I alone in nding them a complete
millstone might be slipping; best of the weeks pop crop. melody of the slightly similar and utter turn-on?
imagine a more sprightly, Danny Kelly Fireworks, Cities nevertheless Kris Kirk
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Snake
game to Eldritch taking it out on the
road as opposed to sticking in the studio.
Wayne: Im a very different person
to Eldritch. First and foremost Im more
sociable. The feeling of comradeship
in The Mission is very similar to the
one I had when I was in Dead Or Alive.
Andrew was very hard to work with.
You never got any credit. I mean, he was
a real headfucker.
Dont you ever wish The Mission
were starting out tomorrow just like
charmers
every other band, with none of the
expectations and exploits of the past
hanging around your shoulders?
The Mission: (l to r) Wayne: No, cos then wed be playing
Mick Brown, Craig the fucking dives of the world. In some
Adams, Wayne ways its a bit of an albatross but it does
Hussey and Simon
Hinkler guarantee us an audience. Initially,
itll probably be very similar to that
of the Sisters, but, in time, I think it
MM, 10 May 1986, p14 will widen. Our songs are a lot more
accessible than the Sisters ever were.
Rising phoenix-like from the ashes of the Sisters, The Mission Would you say youre writing for others now
then, rather than yourself?
watch the dawn come up with a wide-eyed Mat Smith I never used to write for myself. It was always
for Andrew. The criteria we use in The Mission
is that if it sounds good when we play it on an
t
hey dont make songs like that any more. Do you feel more comfortable in The Mission? acoustic guitar in my living room then its a good
Wayne Hussey lurches towards the Nah, he sighs. Some people can feel song. Thats how our single Serpents Kiss was
stereo, pulls off Roll Away The Stone and comfortable in a ve-star hotel but I cant. Id written. The majority of the songs weve been
replaces it with Like A Hurricane. Next door rather be in a hovel cos you can trash it and not doing in the set so far are my songs that Andrew
the neighbours pull the bedsheets over their do much damage. Its the same thing with The rejected for the second Sisters album. Its ironic
heads. In an hour their alarm clocks will ring, Mission. I can trash it and not do much damage cos he actually saw us in Birmingham and told
signalling the end to another long night. whereas, with the Sisters, there was a certain us how good he thought the songs were.
They came round with an axe the other reverence even when I joined the group. Was he being sarcastic? Or was it from the
night, Wayne chuckles wide-eyed. But I think bottom of his heart?
we should be safe now. The Elvis Presleys From Hell took shape towards Wayne: I dont think he has a bottom of his
Before The Mission there were the Sisters, and the end of the Sisters reign Wayne and Craig heart. Bottom of his hat perhaps.
there are still a lot of puzzled
Sisters fans. What went wrong?
It was going wrong in the Sisters even when The cat comes down from his
It was going wrong even perch. The sun ickers in and
when I joined. I mean, we did
the album hardly talking to I joined. Eldritch was very hard to work with. You TV-ams Gyles seems even more
irritating with the sound turned
each other. We were rehearsing down. Jumbled thoughts and
the new stuff his new stuff, he never got any credit. He was a real headfucker jumbled talk. How can you face
wouldnt touch any of my songs your mother Wayne?
and it was just crap. Craig had had enough and playing various benet gigs in their native Leeds My mum knows what I get up to. I had a
walked out. As the studio door slammed Eldritch with Red Lorry Yellow Lorry drummer Mick really bad relationship with my parents for a
clapped his hands together and said Ha! Weve Brown. However, it wasnt until they added while. Theyre both devout Mormons. Seriously!
got rid of the driftwood. I thought, You bastard ex-Artery guitarist Simon Hinkler and changed Its stood me in good stead but it doesnt stop me
and left the next day. their name to The Sisterhood that the fun and doing drugs. I like speed my mother knows
Its sad but we really had no choice. I still games really began. that. She knows I like girls and she knows about
respect him. He probably thinks Im a bastard Wayne: It was a brilliant trick. I knew it my homosexuality. She knows all about it.
well I hope he does anyway, but I know he would antagonise Andrew and WEA and we also Understanding lady, that Mrs Hussey. But
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respects me as a musician. got a lot of press out of it. I always knew wed lose then shed have to be wouldnt she?
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a
mong Nick Caves most prized What, however, constitutes that instinctive whose thoughts in abandoned desolation turn
possessions is a hard-cover green recognition of a songs worth is not so simple. from regret to grief to vengeance. That the end of
book stuffed with press cuttings and On his new album there are self-confessed his relationship with his girlfriend of seven years,
private observations written in his tributes, like his version of The Hammer Song, Anita Lane, in 1983 has inspired so much of his
painstakingly spidery hand. originally by his schoolboy hero Alex Harvey, the subsequent work has never been denied.
Rather than living out the extremes of our piratical Glaswegian rocker whose Jacques Brel- From that point, Cave has turned his lifes big
particular fantasies, most of us rid ourselves of derived theatricality anticipated punk. wound into art, and he has also plunged into
these desires in other ways beating the wife, Missing from Pricks, however, are songs that art as a safety-valve. Not for a long time
the normal day-to day things. In this particular Cave loves which have already been fully realised has a more poignantly tragic gure one whose
book I indulge myself to the limits. I dont have elsewhere, offering no avenues for further downfall springs from an unbalancing ruling
to show this to anyone; I dont have to worry exploration. Van Morrisons Astral Weeks LP is passion starred in rocks obsessively scrutinised
about whether my mothers going to read it a case in point, though Cave reviles all his other zone where private life and public image overlap.
I believe it includes a song about the British records. Likewise damned is Jimi Hendrix, whose His gravity of demeanour and much-trailed
music press entitled Scum. rendition of Hey Joe Cave regards as an easily afnity with serious literary endeavour not only
I didnt write it about the press; I wrote it surpassable high point in an unappealing career. mark him out from the frivolities of the pop
about you Nick Caves Hey Joe invokes a brooding cosmic industry, but also bestow on him a tradition in
He icks through the pages, his pink-rimmed wrath surrounding Joes crime passionel which which his torment may nd a home.
eyes not looking up once to meet mine. echoes the heavenly portents which attended the Not for Nick Cave the battlements of Elsinore
I write hate lyrics really well. Its not every birth of the Presley twins in Tupelo. he stalks instead Americas deep South, a
day you can use them really Kicking Against The Pricks is a richly exciting larger-than-life corrupted Eden of hot blood,
This interview is not turning out at primitive religion, swamplands, scarlet
all as Id hoped.
I had hoped for an interview which
Im inconsistent, illogical, women, quack sawbones, whisky
preachers, riverboat gamblers, white
would amplify how Nick Caves
preoccupations have been revealingly
side-lit by his new album of cover
irrational. So fuckin what? trash, slaves and the lynch-mob.
This mythical deep South serves
not only as the landscape for some of
versions. Called Kicking Against The Pricks, its record, not only for the choice of songs and their Caves favourite music, but also as a backdrop
very title alludes not only to the verse from the singing, but also for the revitalising aplomb and, sufciently wild to project his tragic image onto
Acts of the Apostles but perhaps also to Samuel where needs be, restraint of their performance an Oedipus wreck in winklepickers.
Becketts borrowing of the phrase; certainly, a by the Bad Seeds, whose highly talented maestro
pun of Caves own devising is intended. And I Mick Harvey is too little recognised. I just think Mat Snow is an arsehole who said
suspect I might be one of the pricks. Pricks is, in addition, a further instalment in this, and its not true. I nd it hard to sit down
As he explains in his measured, dictation- the remoulding of Nick Cave into one of rocks and talk to someone who gave us a bad review.
speed sigh of a voice, Theres not a great deal most striking and multi-levelled leading players. Tragic gures are usually proud it goes with
of intellectualisation of the reasons why we did For a start, Nick Cave hates the rock world. the territory. Petty-mindedness, however, tends
these particular songs. Were musicians and feel He is highly literate about rock and its many to be comic. So why are neither of us laughing?
music more from the heart than the head. Im sources, but inclines towards its most earthy What had I done to poison this whole encounter?
not sure whether you can understand that. poets of passion, the balladeers and story-tellers. In March last year I wrote of an Einstrzende
Ouch. Johnny Cash and Roy Orbison like him, men Neubauten single that it musters the psycho-
When I listen to a song, it strikes my in black gure large in his taste, as do Elvis logical edge disappointingly absent from Nick
heart whether its worthwhile or not. Theres Presley and Bob Dylan. Cave has sought among Caves forthcoming LP That I have also
something so basic and so simple it shouldnt this canon those themes which most closely heaped extravagant praise upon his work cuts
even need to be said. resemble his preoccupation that of a jilted lover no ice at all.
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to appear in the
new series of How
Clean Is Your House
If someone says something good about me, If, with few exceptions, Cave has scant regard of our shows and screams out, Youre a fucking
theyre doing their job; I have no complaints. for we back-stabbing scribblers, he doesnt give arsehole! Pays every night to scream that at the
They get no medal, they get their wage. Thats a ying fuck for the other four-fths of his group, and, if he gets a chance, to punch me. Hes
all. But if they say something bad, then that audience, most of whom by my reckoning are not there to pick up a girl, thats for sure.
really gets on my tits. full-time goths, part-time slummers, wallowers Sometimes during this supremely painful
Im inconsistent, Im illogical, Im irrational and weirdoes who are there to be fucked up the interview Nick Cave forgets himself and speaks
about it. So fuckin what? dirt-track, metaphorically speaking. eloquently and animatedly about something
Caves voice barely rises. Hes as laboriously Ive got less and less inclined towards being outside his immediate concerns; the prison
patient as an iceberg. some sort of colourful food for a lot of other system, for instance, which hes been researching
Everything thats said against me offends people to consume. Writing allows me to be for a lm project in Australia. When I ask about
me, whether its true or not. I cant fathom myself and not have to perform this lthy God and the afterlife, he becomes more guarded.
these people who unked their arts courses and function which, no matter what I do, is inherent All hell say is that he believes evil will not go
became rock journalists and are too ignorant in being lead singer for some freak group. unpunished, even if its rewarded on earth.
about music or academic about their thoughts I dont know what the people who come and But soon he reverts to being the sod with a
BLEDDYN BUTCHER
or have so many hang-ups that they cant bring see me are like. I dont know what their reasons grudge and thin veneer of forced politeness.
themselves to perform. Yet it is these people for doing anything are. I dont know the reason Im just a sensitive guy, he smiles inwardly.
whose opinions are lauded as being gospel. for the boy down the front who comes to each Very inwardly.
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Firstborn and Kicking Against (Mercury) predominantly dynamic album last week, when I nally started to
The Pricks, the Bad Seeds have I still believe in God, but God no which comes to grief on only two listen to their music. So Wayne, my
stretched and scattered their longer believes in me. counts the tedious Dance On blossom do I qualify for a free
lugubrious hacksaw shrapnel so far Frankly Im not surprised. Wayne Glass, all pattering drums and non- pint now?
it no longer resembles the blues, Hussey is invariably to be found events, and the infuriating Stay Carol Clerk
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you all personally and tell you to Goosebumps a go-go on the 12- I can hardly wait to see Adam
buy this record. Not that Ive ever inch version from the fruit cellar Sweetings face.
been much of a Banshees fan: a lot to the crows nest and back again. Barry McIlheney
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THE CULT
Electric
(Beggars Banquet)
The Mish: billowing
hair and bilious One of the most fascinating things
pretension about the development of music
over the last two years has been the
myriad ways in which heavy metal,
once an idiot in-breed feeding off
its own faeces, has reinvented itself.
NME, 11 July 1987, p33 Most spectacular is Run DMCs
achievement in selling re-usable
THE MISSION Aerosmith riffs to the hipsters of
The First Chapter the soul patrol, messing up all the
(Phonogram) ten-year old cultural boundaries.
Just how serious can The Mission But on the traditional side theres
possibly be? Anyone who can name been a swing towards a New York
songs Naked And Savage and Dolls-ish sense of glam, while on the
Serpents Kiss has either got punk, tribal side bands like The Cult
a severe clich problem have slipped into the biker/killing
or theyre laughing all By far the most the Disney soundtrack but fares machine imagery of traditional
the way to the bank. entertaining aspect badly when compared with that heavy metal.
This bunch quite of this pompously pythons creepy delivery. No one knows the marketing
clearly derive from a titled collection is the Its been a long time since the potential of the various strains of
post-punk culture, and sleeve notes, which Banshees have been hypnotic, but new rock better than Rick Rubin
yet take a perverse refer to blowing this has its moments. Sadly its not the man who turned the Beastie
delight in irting brains out, searing half the LP that Nick Boys from brash punk to brat
with that bte noir white-hot guitar noise, Cave produced with metal, the man behind
of their generation, various illegal states of Kicking Against The Slayers speed metal
mid-70s rock. The Mission quite mind, and, best of all, Pricks, because here thrash, producer of Run
self-consciously break all the rules. a gorgeous happening rocknroll the Banshees are DMC and now producer
Deciding to cover a Neil Young song, relationship, whatever that may mostly too respectful of The Cult. Yes, it is a
for instance, The Mission have to be. After reading that lot, the most except on Strange conspiracy.
choose his single example of that amusing thought came to mind. Fruit, which is a Rubin seems to have
great dodo, the rock anthem Like Hey! What if they mean it, man? wobbling disaster. a perfect grasp on what
A Hurricane, delivered with a po- John Munro Iggy Pops The the masses of middle
faced, blustering sincerity. Passenger is one America want, which is,
The problem is that if its of the few rock records that could in fact, not very much,
NME, 7 March 1987, p26
intended to be a joke, its not really start a barndance anywhere in the just something very noisy and
very funny. The clichs they use
rarely aspire to being anything
SIOUXSIE & world. Its a legend, and at least
Siouxsie knows that if youre gonna
unpretentious. And if mid-America
wants it, it wants it in large enough
other than clichs, and at their THE BANSHEES mess with this one, mess with it or numbers to allow you to forget
best theyre like consolation prize Through The Looking Glass leave well alone. So as all concerned about the rest of the world.
winners in a Jim Morrison sound- (Polydor) take a ride to see whats theirs, the The question is whether they
alike competition. At their worst, Look deep into my eyes, little one horns swoop and it swings along will want The Cult, and the answer
TONY MOTTRAM/RETNA/PATRICK QUIGLY/RETNA
they can be a veritable vomitbag trussssssssst me! Yesss, trussst me famously. On Hall of Mirrors, is almost certainly yes. Electric is
full of bilious pretension. A version when I say this is OK, actually. the Banshees and Kraftwerk are a perfectly accomplished heavy
of Patti Smiths Dancing Barefoot Who wouldnt love that sssublime well-matched because each has a metal record, from the bladed
misses the point altogether, sssnake from The Jungle Book? trademark pulse, and the tune is lettering of the cover right down
sounding like little boys playing Even he gets a chance on this, the made to measure. to the version of Born To Be Wild,
with naughty drug references, Banshees collection of favourites Anyone attempting to play out while the tawdry glamour displayed
where the original sounds like a from Ten Years In A Tour Bus. Televisions seldom-heard debut in the inner sleeve shots is perfectly
scarecrow playing with re. Siouxsie croons Trust In Me from Little Johnny Jewel is asking for it. designed to meet Bon Jovi halfway.
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Musically it sounds like a trip The Cures intangibility fades into staggeringly original never give in.
MM, 30 May 1987, p30
through the styles of the 70s, from esh here and bloodletting is rife. Not until several minutes silence
sub-T.Rex catchphrasing through We have 17 songs, we have two after the event (for thats what
acid-scrambled nonsense (Sitting THE CURE themes if only and come over this subversive saintly saccharine
on a mountain looking at the sun/ Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me here we have tortured memories is, really) do we realise that the
Plastic fantastic lobster telephone) (Fiction) and, believe it or not, we have some answers have all been romanced.
to full blown Led Zeppelin bombast. Kiss kiss bang bang! Just as Rodins current fun. We take one more quick glance at
We might wonder just lovers will forever hold palms to When Warhol made The Kiss the clothing strewn on the oor.
how serious this can thighs and the only another great arrogant accident Crimson lips. If that was a picture of
be when we hear lines good lips will be red the beauty of each entrails, wed nd it revolting. But it
like: Zany antics of lips, this is a perfect rendezvous couldve isnt. Its lips, so we
a beat generation/In objective blur, a been spoiled by think its chic. The eye
their wild search for subjective sublime. saturation. Just as on of the beholder is yet
kicks. But the kids You nd yourself The Cures magnetic again the sole arbiter.
with the dollars in swaying, instinctively, magnum opus, the Theyll be howling
their pockets and to most of it: echoes of pert irtations or this into the wind 10
the college radio the known. All I want is self-agellations of years from now, and
station on their to hold you like a dog: each mini-masterpiece if it wasnt a double
portables wont . too furry to be rock, too should negate each album Id have no
Theres gold in this here swill. tearful to be pop, too reliant on other till its just all too hesitation in calling it
Don Watson ice-skating strings to be soul, much. But somehow, somewhere, album of the year. But
theres a place in your heart for each. Im hesitating. Which leaves me
When Marilyn coos simply no more or less lost than anyone
elegant in The Seven Year Itch, who irrationally loves the nebulous
thats ne too, because she has no aspirations, camp angst and lack of
The Nephs Carl
McCoy: sponsored name. Robert Smith is only called denition of The Cure. A panacea or
by Homepride Robert Smith, but perhaps this is Pantheism? Think Im In Love With A
why we let him get away with it. We German Film Star and be damned.
sympathise, because hes clever Chris Roberts
enough not to get too clever. I wish
you were dead and You want to MM, 30 May 1987, p34
know why I hate you? he groans.
This is creative visualisation, for
Smith is undoubtedly enjoying life.
FIELDS OF THE
So not only can we mope along, NEPHILIM
if we wish, we can boogie with Dawnrazor
reverential and self-referential (Situation 2)
HIS MASTERS
VOICE
Andrew Eldritch, the godfather of goth, is back to lead
his children form the hippy wilderness and to prove
The Sisters of Mercy are first and last and always.
Steve Sutherland gets the message
MM, 5 september 1987, p14
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There were others from Hamburg, the last of Where have you been since you last appeared in Was it frustrating to see The Mission become
which was written in Chinese, and I wasnt the the hallowed pages of the Maker? successful in the mean time?
only one who feared for the great mans sanity. Well, we went through the corporate wars in No I mean, they took the interest and
Rumour had it a combination of devastated my familiar Jonathan E type role and we did OK. capitalised on that but, musically, not. It was
health, legal binds and sheer disappointment A lot of untruths have been bandied about, but noticeable for about a year that they couldnt
that his ex-henchmen had made a go of The unfortunately, the way we won makes it tricky get press unless they mentioned my name. I saw
Mission had laid Eldritch near-fatally low. We for us to explain how we won and, therefore, interviews with myself so many times by proxy
presumed the world and Eldritch, to all extents prove that we did. It was basically over the name that got irritating because well, Wayne has a
and purposes, had parted company. Such the people that are now The Mission and REMARKABLE way with the truth.
miserable unbelievers! myself had an agreement no one would use the Is there bitterness between you then?
name when the band went its separate ways. But, Yeah. Yeah, there is.
Eldritch is in a photographic studio, glistening after theyd been touting their demos round Personal or corporate?
with baby-oil and draped all over Patricia, getting nowhere under all sorts of other names, Personal.
formerly of The Gun Club and You suggest theres a
now his right-hand man. Hes
here to pose with cigarettes and Rumour had it that devastated health, legal fundamental difference in
ATTITUDE between The Sisters
prove The Sisters Of Mercy are Of Mercy and The Mission.
still a force to get wrecked with.
He doesnt talk of resurrection,
binds and sheer disappointment had laid Eldritch Yeah, their ability to bend
over forwards in order to make
but of continuation and, as if
to insist megalomania is alive
near-fatally low. Such miserable unbelievers! progress appals me. The way
theyve bent over contracts and
and well and ready to pistol-whip pop, his new they began to claim rights to it, which patently been appropriately assaulted for it which, again,
single is called This Corrosion, lasts 11 minutes, had to be stopped. And, when they wanted to be is something theyve not really been prepared to
features a 40-piece choir multi-tracked 10 times called The Sisterhood, there was nothing I could let on about.
and was produced by Meat Loafs old buddy do but be The Sisterhood before them the only Musically, too. I never sang a lyric of
and master of the Wagnerian, Jim Steinman. way to kill that name was to use it, then kill it. Waynes. I never found one I COULD sing.
Im about to ask him why but Im laughing too I think that reected rather badly on the name History has proved that, when The Sisters
much. The Bad News mondo-metal version of The Sisters Of Mercy and its probably due for disappeared from public view, was EXACTLY
Bohemian Rhapsody has just come on the radio reinstatement for that reason if no other. the time you should have been reaping your
and Patricia thinks its The Cult! Then there was a little disagreement with greatest rewards. What, other than legalities,
the publishers, RCA Music, over what would prompted your inaction?
Lets talk over eats Eldritch. Where dyou fancy? happen to the money. Effectively it all kept us Well, I wasnt well. Id done three tours that
Oh, anywhere but Indian. out of action. year and I thought wed come to the end of a
Really? I thought youd be a man for a ruby. logical course. I titled that Albert Hall gig Wake
No, I refuse to eat anywhere they beat us at about four months before it actually happened,
cricket. and the band are probably still wondering why.
Italian then? I mean, I thought it should still have gone on but
Italian. I knew it wasnt going to.
The last time we actually spent any time
together, at the end of the tour before the Albert
Hall, we had some time playing in America and
then we had a week off in Los Angeles.
I went to Mexico for the day and the other
two couldnt think of anything better to do than
go to Disneyland. And when I came back from
Mexico a WEEK later, having got somewhat
uh distracted, I just thought, God, what are
those people whinging about, really? They just
got so feeble.
Then they said, Well, OK, what are we
gonna do for new songs? And I said, How
about this, this and this, and unfortunately,
the rst this I cited had too many chords per
minute and Craig said, If thats the guitar line,
Im not playing it, and walked out. That was
really that.
But Wayne had already become a problem
because he wanted to do more of his songs and
I thought they were particularly vacuous.
I used to have to ght with him to get the
songs to make any sort of grammatical sense,
let alone be sharp with it. I mean, youve gotta
know grammar before you can work away from
it. The guy didnt have a clue hed just string
buzzwords together.
Strangely enough, someone from the Maker
was around Wayne while he was writing recently
and he had a book of aphorisms with all the
mystical-type ones underlined in red.
TOM SHEEHAN
for revolution these days. Im glad I wasnt In a sense, your attitude was a precursor to I hope history proves you right.
around in 86 because it wasnt just The Mission, sampling. You were acknowledging Led Zeppelin I hope so too because I dont think this irony
it was a bad year all over and anybody who broke before The Beastie Boys USED them. Is their compounds itself properly unless you do add
then will be tainted with it for a long time. literal approach even more honest than yours? an extra layer on the top, unless you do stick
But surely youre responsible. You introduced I think thats a lower level, a very vulgar something worthwhile in.
a generation of synth-pop fashion fops to the interpretation. The Beastie Boys arent familiar Dont we need a new era of innocence? Dont
thrill of anti-fashion, When The Levee Breaks, territory to me. In about two years, Ill cover we need to UNLEARN progress?
outlaw biker chic and drug innuendo and guitars When The Levee Breaks and wipe the oor with No, we need a new era of cynicism. The
and ripped jeans and dry ice. Without the Sisters The Beastie Boys and wipe the oor with The reason the NME, for instance, cant comprehend
and the vacuum you created when you went to Cult because they havent got a grip on what is this sort of thinking is that they dont have that
ground, there could scarcely have been grebo great about Led Zeppelin. Its like The Mission cynicism. They still believe that rocknroll is
and Zodiac Mindwarp. going out and covering Sisters music they make supposed to be naive and wonderful and, if
I dispute that. Thats like saying Christ is it sound like bad Echo & The Bunnymen.
responsible for the Mormons its really not on. I remember I went to see The Alarm when
I dont know what you lot were left with. they were knee-high to Big Country and I
So whats grebo rock? thought, These people have COMPLETELY
You really havent heard of it? misunderstood Mott The Hoople, and its
No, is it like Led Zeppelin? been happening ever since. Im now used
Well yeah fake fantasy stuff. to people misunderstanding me, though
Oh, without the grunge. Maybe I SHOULD its weird when you get all these Eldritch
have taught them outrageousness. clones out there treading the boards.
You sound like The Godfather of Goth. Youve never seen Fields Of The
Ha! When we were trying to sell This Nephilim?
Corrosion to Steinman, we said it was like the No, Im told we played with
high point of a Borgia disco evening and he them once in San Francisco but
went for it. Nobody makes gloriously stupid I wasnt actually there when they
records any more. played.
Queen? Patricia: They knew I was there
No, theyre embarrassing. Steinman and I are and, afterwards, they came up and
the only two who share this glorious stupidity. started talking to people next to me.
Dont tell him though. He just thinks Corrosion I just left. I wasnt even going to speak
is perfectly normal. Other bands have no to them. I mean, for a moment when
perspective on the stupidity of it at all. They say they were on, I turned and thought,
things like, Oh well, we never claimed we were This is familiar, whats THIS?
original, or, Well, of course rocks stupid, but The only reason that people like
its just spiel, just Eldritch lines misunderstood. that embarrass me so much is that,
This is where the attitude comes in. The if theyre really that hooked on me,
difference between the Sisters and the pretenders they must be tasteless. It gets to the
to the throne is an irony-in-overdrive that takes stage where you think, Im not THAT
the piss out of AND celebrates its role models. good and anybody who thinks I am
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you give them irony, they say, Oh dear, thats the expectations. Its a long war but Corrosion Nixon and asked him how to survive it.
distasteful. Lets forget about it. Lets pretend its might win one battle and, after all, its the only Eldritch is supposed to be a pretty ruthless
not humorous. Thats very primitive cynicism war worth ghting. character himself.
born out of a very vulgar and naive ideology. How much is revenge the motive? Not really, Im a counter-attacker by nature.
Has pop music let you down? The Gift was the revenge, a weapon very Im not a pre-emptive strike man.
No. I know what its capable of because, when specically pointed. This is the gloating, much Most people in your position, if theyre
I grew up, it was blatantly capable of it and it more widespread, more general. interested in maintaining control, tend to
was delivering. Expectations have been lowered Why did you go to live in Hamburg? make a point of confounding (Robert Smith)
since and deliveries have been faltering. Its just Its the largest city in the Federal Republic or conrming (John Lydon) their public image.
a question of raising peoples expectations again. which is the most powerful country in Europe. You do neither.
We can do it. Ill make the records if you raise Its just such a wonderfully cool place because its Thats where the hardship comes in. Its
not populated by cool people like Berlin. a lot of extra work and a lot of extra worry.
Do you feel badly done by in Britain then? Anecdotes? I just dont have them.
Yeah. Not so much these days because Ive Will Corrosion chart?
got a reasonable amount of goodwill stored up Im told it will. I dont care. Its a good record
but one knows its only goodwill as long as you now, itll be a good record in ve years. I dont
dont start talking about aesthetics when they ask care when people buy it though I think its more
you what your favourite colour is. accessible to people, it has a more accessible top
layer than the records weve had out in the past.
Have you, in your time away, seen anything Thats just a function of the way its recorded,
encouraging? I dont think its a function of the song.
What, to do with music? So the songs a wolf in sheeps clothing. Or
To do with anything. uh a wolf in what? Brontosauruss clothing?
Twenty seconds silence. Then: No. I dunno, Ill cheat and put in something really
Patricia: I was over there when that What makes you sad?
happened and, you know, Reagan called Nothing makes me sad because I think
there has to be some element of surprise in I never know. I always go away thinking,
order to feel sad. Well, I havent said enough about post-
What else? war dramatic theory or fencing, or Chinese
Well, Im thinking of learning to drive. The philology, which are the things that I really care
thing is, whenever I go abroad, I invariably end about. And then someone says, Well? Did you
up driving and I dont have a licence or anything tell them how great the record is? And I go, Oh,
which is probably not the thing to do. Then, actually that never occurred to me.
you see, what happens after that is I buy a car. The only conversations I quite get off on
I dont particularly like cars for their own sake these days are the ones where we discuss how
and I dont particularly like driving. I get these crap conversation is. Im not socially honed and
MM, 21 November 1987, p31 urges. I see these things and I think, What if? I dont feel the need to be. Once you convince
Thats why I dont really enjoy it; because Im yourself youre the all-time best at it, where dyou
THE SISTERS OF MERCY responsible enough not to do what I feel the urge go from there?
Floodland to do. I dont get the urge to drive fast, I just get How enigmatic.
(Merciful Release) the urge to drive off the road, especially when I dont feel enigmatic. Enigmatic is being
Facing up to the fact that theres nothing on either side of me. deliberately obscure and Im not. I might
nothing is new tends Its got nothing to do with suicide; its just be oblique but thats only because, to me,
to separate the mice about driving a car off the edge of a cliff. obliqueness is a clearer way of expressing
from the men. Some, something in its entirety.
like George Michael, How would you kill someone? Could this be the Oxford University training
plagiarise. Others, It would depend whether it was someone the art of leaving oneself least open to attack
Like The Cult, feign I liked or someone I didnt like. or are we talking about truth here?
ignorance. Eldritch OK, someone you like. Truth. I can do the other as well but Im too
mocks, uses choirs and It depends whether I think theyd appreciate out of training and when I was really good at it,
Coleridge, taunts pop with its elders and something spectacular or something just very I began to despise myself for it.
betters. sedate. I think if it was someone I really, really So youre talking about a search for
Floodland is more and less the same liked and theyd appreciate the spectacular, it communication?
album as First And Last And Always. Its would have to involve an expanse of scenery and I really dont know but, apart from the bit
more in that Eldritchs awareness of mortality an extraordinarily fast car. about Roy Kinnear, I stand by everything Ive
has spread from the knowledge that And those you dont like? ever said to you.
PETER ANDERSON
nothing is new to the opinion that nothing Id always want it take longer. Its best to kill Even the stuff about Norman Wisdom?
is worthwhile; and its less in that being someone they really like, I think. Yeah.
incapable of contemplating nothing, it reacts You suggest in what you just said that you like Gods will be gods.
to time running out by amputating all the and dislike but not love and hate.
curlicues of guitar and replacing them with Im very wary of it. I have to be very careful
stark, essential foundations. because I think Im probably a bit obsessive by
Floodland is an edice to decay in nature. I had to TOTALLY stop drinking in order
which Eldritch unleashes all his paranoia to be able to maintain any business whatever.
and obsession. The gargantuan Dominion/ I dont gamble. I dont do smack.
Mother Russia nds our hero forsaking that And love?
job in the diplomatic corps and pleading Absolutely not. I only ever really did it once
with Mother Russia to rain down, while and I dont think Im likely to do it again.
the magnicently minimal This Corrosion Because you dont like losing your personality
cleaves through its own pompous austerity in someone else or because you dont like
to admit I got nothing to say I aint said inicting it?
before, a revelation which, far from Both. We were just dreadful for each other.
suggesting a lack of imagination, indicates It didnt stop it being brilliant but its
a surfeit of it. That admission, alongside marginally better that it doesnt happen any
the metallic Luftwaffe slap of Lucretia My more. Thats tough. It still hangs over to the
Reection, the breakdown of language extent that I couldnt do it again.
during Floodland II or the (surely) sampled What would induce you to lose your self
nuclear depth charge drums from Led control, to endanger yourself in passion?
Zeppelins When The Levee Breaks on Ive only ever done that when I wasnt
Neverland, is a mark of shocking honesty. quite on stage Ive done things that
When Eldritch sings Seconds to the drop afterwards Ive thought, No! That
but it feels like hours the red light starts was just beyond the pale.
winking on the dashboard and we realise Because you were out
that Driven Like The Snow is Nine While of it?
Nine revisited because he can do nothing Because I could,
else were all waiting. Dying on records a because I was out
dicey business, especially when its world of it and because
destruction that nags your every waking I had to. If youre
minute because theres nowhere to go in front of a crowd, youre in a
artistically. Facing up to that, Floodland position of responsibility and, if theyre waiting
is a triumph of sorts, neither optimistic for you to sort out one moron, you have to do it.
enough to suggest theres a Noahs Ark I mean, the last time it happened, I spent half an
nor pessimistic enough to accuse us all of hour trying to talk the crowd into sorting out
navigating a ship of fools. It simply says rust their own problem and then, eventually, I just
never sleeps and this is what it sounds like. dived. It was really sad. I felt very ashamed on
Great. their behalf that they let me do it.
Steve Sutherland OK, thats it. Was it good for you?
TLFeBOOK
1987
This week, The Cure complete a triumphant European tour by playing HE NEVER HAS AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT!
three nights at Wembley. Chris Roberts caught up with them on the eve The words to How Beautiful You Are are of
interest to me
The lyric-sheets wrong, innit?
of their homecoming to discuss lips, hands, legs and boomps-a-daisy Who proof-read it?
Me.
It suggests that no one ever knows or loves
MM, 5 December 1987, p25 and Hello, Im a plank (if you are Simon). another. Thats a bit of a rum do, isnt it?
Asking the manager to reveal his wedding Ah, thats literary theft, from a Baudelaire
t
he kiss originated when the rst male tackle. Requesting Thinking Of You by Sister short story. I wrote a song round the time of
reptile licked the rst female reptile, Sledge from a disc jockey who looks like Roscoe the Faith album with the idea that, even if
implying in a subtle, complimentary way Tanner. Being staggered that Roberts knows you thought you were very close to someone,
that she was as succulent as the small Born To Be Alive and Lets All Chant were by you never really were. That youd always be
reptile he had for dinner the night before. Patrick Hernandez and The Michael Zager Band disappointed in people. Then someone gave me a
F Scott Fitzgerald: The Crack-Up respectively. Not going out of the hotel because book of Baudelaire, Verlaine and Rimbaud.
that would mean instant lethal mobbing. I read this story and his narrative idea put it
HE KISSES VARIOUS PEOPLE, HE SUPPOSES! Getting up late. Going back to bed. Feeling a so much better. Just goes to show I never have
The only person I really kiss is Mary, says bit awkward when little girls burst into tears an original thought!
Robert Smith. I kiss Simon from time to time. upon touching their hair. Drinking. Lol-baiting. But is your view of communication between
Oh, I kiss various people, I suppose. Its just Talking about gore movies. Being chuffed that people really that bleak?
spontaneous. But theres a history of treacherous Barry Gibb is a Cure fan. Having chewing-gum Mmm. Still is. I wish it wasnt. But I expect
kisses. And lecherous kisses are vile. A drunken on the rider. Drinking some more. Mercilessly, less of fewer people now. Theres just one or two
kiss can be one of the worst things in the world. relentlessly, savagely, baiting Lol. Not dancing. people who I rely on not to change. Maybe three.
I used to say my hobbies were drinking and Tittering. Not having some grand idea about Its very difcult writing songs which people say
kissing, in that order, but it wasnt true. I dont themselves. Watching shirts shrink. Miming to help them and not feeling like youre the centre
know. I dislike kissing as much as I like it. Status Quo records. Being gods in France. of the universe. Its nice to read something that
Seeing other people kissing is ugh Why are The Cure so big, Robert? stirs you to think youre on the periphery. Or
At one point I almost got phobic about the I think a lot of it is songs, I really do. Just that you dont even exist.
mouth being an orice, about actually travelling having the right song at the right time. I once met somebody whod interviewed
into someones mouth. I just liked putting the Why are The Cure so big, Simon? Patrick White and I felt very peripheral then.
mouth on the cover cos its so close-up its kind I think its probably Robert. I wished Id met him. But then I was invited
of obscene and lewd. It was a to lunch with Ray Bradbury
reaction to the way were often
interpreted Im seen as being Im seen as being cuddly. This isnt and I didnt go: at the last minute
I got scared Id be so useless in
really cuddly, and my mouth
and lipstick are supposed to be
so nice. This isnt true; Im as
true; Im as horrible as anyone the conversation.
Recommended reading for
incurable Curophiles?
horrible as anyone. Probably more so than most. Patrick Whites autobiography, which tells
What comes out of peoples mouths is pretty THEY LOOK LIKE ANGELS! me how an old person feels when hes old. And
vile most of the time. I worry about our attitude because I have to gay. Im terried of old people. And in Ireland
And breath. Breath is revolting. Especially live with it. Im sure a lot of people dont care I set myself this reading course to try and
in Germany. at all what attitude we have, but I have to keep re-educate myself, cos I felt I was becoming
thinking its important because, if I let that go, very dull. So I read Beyond Good And Evil
IF HE WAS AT HOME, HED BE IN THE PUB! I may as well become a member of Spandau again, and The Myth Of Sisyphus. And Sartres
We, however, are in Brussels, the capital of Ballet or something. Road To Freedom trilogy, which Id never read
Europe. It is the capital of Europe because You have to keep a sense of just being before. That was brilliant. Really good. And
nobody not Rome, not Madrid, not Liverpool, human. Im wearing black for the rst time in Confucius
not nobody could possibly be jealous of years today. We wear white on stage. We look Isnt this all a little naively heavy-going?
Brussels. Thus peace is assured. Being jealous like angels. No, surprisingly enough you know most of
of Brussels would be like being jealous of a We talk about mouths, then I suggest that whats in them. You nd you just know.
watering-can with scaffolding around it. Robert might feel his audience is too young to
Were sitting here and its Sunday. But it appreciate the complex mesh of love and hate in HE ALWAYS FEELS LIKE THEYRE NOT HIS HANDS!
could be Tuesday as much as anything. Thats the songs If Robert wasnt a compulsive liar, Id ask him if
whats so good about doing this. Id be at the I never feel patronising towards anyone of 15; he was a compulsive liar.
pub if I was at home anyway, so going on stage I remember still how I experienced things then. What hypnotises you? Mesmerises you?
is a bonus. I could never write them down as well as I could Koyaanisqatsi. The rain on bus journeys.
The Cure on tour is a fascinating at 25, I didnt have the same grasp of language, Through the window. And snow, snows the best
phenomenon it goes through all the rocknroll but I felt the same emotions, just as strong, in a thing in the world. When youre driving through
motions while somehow maintaining a slight much rougher form. Between 15 and 18 is when snow at night and the headlights are on and it
lmy forceeld between amusing itself and you develop your personality. You go out with looks like youre going through star tunnels
plummeting into all those Spinal Tap clichs. people. You make contact with jealousy and all Oh, lots of things mesmerise me. Good dancers.
Drinking. Saying someone has never touched the other horrible emotions which I no longer I suppose thats the opposite to how I feel
a drink in his life. Watching old videos of suffer from. seeing people who are really uid, who look
Dr Who. Lol-baiting. Arguing about the The songs arent that complicated; only one like they dont exist.
merits of compact discs, and how the Luddites or two. And theyre probably so convoluted that Do you wish you could disown the physical?
would smash them up. Crimping. Lol-baiting. they only really refer to me. Most of the recent Lose your body?
Drinking. Phoning home. Anyone-baiting. songs have been fairly obvious. Yeah, a trade-in would be quite good.
Signing autographs. Trying to avoid Michael Get it out get it out get it out/Get your fucking Actually no a lot of my experience derived
TOM SHEEHAN
Jackson, Marvin Gaye and Van Morrison. Lol- voice out of my head/I never wanted any of this/I from how uncomfortable I feel within my own
baiting. Saying, Come on, just one more drink wish you were dead/Dead dead dead The Kiss. body anyway, so if I was a disembodied mind,
itd take all that away from me. Of Angst, welcome home Messiah, weve killed Ah. Yes. No.
I always feel like theyre not my hands. Ive the fatted calf. Ive never spent much time with Thats what touring does to me as well. Its
always felt like it my body is a third person. people who look up at me, or think Im somehow television, tapes, reading, thinking, sitting. And I
If I cut my hand I think the band has been different. So when I read these things I either know at the start of the chain of actions that Im
cut, not me. I suppose its an irrational desire laugh or just go, Oh, nutty bastards. How could gonna feel nothing for, like, the next ve hours.
to escape from it to feel that, even if my heart I have stayed one thing for years anyway? Thatd Im resigned to it till I go to sleep.
stopped, I would still be here. be ludicrous. Im not aware of being the me that Close To Me was about that. Some days you
Surely you forget yourself sometimes? does this its weird I cant really grasp hold of just know nothings gonna happen. Nothings to
Yeah, after about the seventeenth pint of it. Ah, I suppose Ill have to now, wont I? be felt. Its another day gone.
Guinness. Does he ever tap himself and nd the hollow Is it worth being alive on those days?
Oh, boring what about the sexual act? resonance alarming? And is this emptiness, this No He looks up with a puzzled
Yeah I suppose. Thats pretty mental as well still life in mobile homes (thank you, Sylvian), expression. Not really.
though. Um late night swimming in dark sadder than any angst? As for that Fight song, all that never give up
waters is a good way. And sleep! And waking up
in the morning when you dont have to get up
immediately I feel comfortable with my body I stare into a mirror I hypnotise myself
then, its just a big lump.
This is why I nd it strange that I can go on
stage in front of people and jump about. People
to see the devil in my face and skull
say, Why do you always look down? Im looking tosh in the light of what youve just said,
at my feet. They dont do what I want. I dont HE ACTUALLY FELT REALLY DEAD! why bother?
know how it is I can play football, really. Yes I do in fact I feel it to a worrying degree Its about trying to force yourself into some
What frightens you? now. When I went to the South Dublin coast for kind of action, which could lead to experience.
Flying, now. Ive suddenly decided against two weeks, just before we came on this tour, Id Because there isnt really anything else but
it; Ive realised how silly it is. Willingly agreeing go out by the sea each morning, and sit down experience. Whether its passive or active.
to subject yourself to that torture of throwing by the rocks. When I was younger it used to feel I used to be able to rely passively on my
yourself on the mercy of a machine and another really I dont know, I used to feel inspired. environment and the people around me. Now I
person. Also, I can always see through the oor And this time I actually felt really dead. think I have got to not necessarily manufacture
on planes. Lack of control I dont like; that Back then, Id feel a sense of innity, Id experience, but look for things. Im addicted
makes me angry. And Im scared of growing old. feel really small, and helpless, but a part of to feeling extremes.
And Im scared at my continuing lack of faith in something. Id be lled with overwhelming Taking risks?
anything. And Im scared of going blind, cos my despair or Id feel deliriously happy, just sitting Yeah, mental ones.
eyesights failing rapidly. looking at the sea. But this time, I didnt feel
What sights would you miss most? anything. Id just sit. And itd just be the sea. HES GOT A WEIRD COMPOSITE GIRL!
Everything. Except the colour brown Theres be no communion oh, this isnt Whats this penchant youve got for stupidly
I could live without that. Most, Id miss the sounding how I mean it gorgeous girls?
reection of my own eyes. Yknow when you Its sounding like the old grey man on the Ah yes, I have got a weird composite girl
stare really close into a mirror? Standing On A Beach photographs. Uh in mind sometimes, when Im struggling for
Is that how you check youre still there? aint that something? ways to eulogise femininity. Its a kind of cross
Yeah. I hypnotise myself to see the devil in Its just knowing how much I can feel between Marilyn Monroe, Audrey Hepburn
my face and skull. I try not to do that so much something no more than anyone else, but and Betty Boop.
now. It affects my mental stability. I can be so overwhelmed by things I nd this Must there be a dumbness?
worrying. Not to feel anything when I know I Naivete. A naive, trusting quality, I suppose.
HES LOSING HIS CYNICISM! ought to. Im not shocked any more. I just look. And innocence that isnt really innocence,
Thats devils and angels youve mentioned When? because they usually end up getting their own
Most peoples devil is far more pronounced When someone gets knocked over. Or way. And obviously theres a lot of Mary in there
than their angel. I think the angel probably Christmas. Because you remember how you as well. Thats what I like about her.
visits, while he devil lives there. Although Im used to get excited and you no longer do, and its Does she ever get jealous?
turning around a bit. I used to only be surprised worrying because its like youre losing yourself No! Why should she? Theres no room for
if people were nice. Now Im surprised if people somehow. Youre becoming thinner. Or maybe jealousy in the relationship: itd be very tiring.
are horrible. Im losing my cynicism as I get hollower. She may be jealous of the time other people get
older! Its generally easier to be affable and non- And this upsets you? from me, with the group existing. Ive known
committal than it is to be aggressive and angry. It doesnt make me feel anything, does it? her since before the group started, so shes always
Although Im very argumentative. seen it as an obstacle, whereas usually being in
I never think Im wrong. I have a a group takes on a much more
very strong sense of morality and romantic aspect.
a well-dened code of ethics Ive She probably does get jealous
adhered to through the years. from time to time but just doesnt
This derives from my survival tell me cos she knows Id hit her.
instincts. Apart from QPR nishing (at
Robert has in his time been best) eighth in the league, what
described as walking a thin line does the future hold?
between agitation and boredom, Sometimes I see myself staring
and, among many less abstractly at the sea, writing music for Stanley
complimentary things, The Kubricks next lm or something.
Messiah Of Angst. Other times I think Ill just be
I never thought those surrounded by books, reading.
descriptions referred to me; Other times I see myself in
so I didnt have to live with it. a blank space. Enjoying blankness.
TOM SHEEHAN
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Too Many Truffles
Julie Driscoll and whose fashion up against the coolest vocals. Yes, the King of Goth is back!
sense was rst alerted by Brian Produced by those awfully Heeeeeeeres SPIGGY!!!! Andy
Augers Regency cuffs as they NME, 18 April 1987, p23 nice Mission people it has just Drac Eldritch (real name Stan
ounced over his Hammond enough thumping power and Sunshine) has made a record and
organ on Top Of The Pops, I can THE CURE glistening strength to ll a nations its the lamest thing to crawl out of
only applaud Siouxsies latest Why Cant I Be You? jaded ears, syringing out all Leeds since Norman Hunters last
excavation of the 1968 songbook. (Fiction) that Curiosity Killed The Cat and sparring partner quit town.
Far more liberty-taking though Still sounding like a haunted Erasure bilge. A well-delineated Steven Wells
less crystal-ball mysterious than hippie singing through a helium giant of a song.
their reverential Dear Prudence, bubble, Robert Smiths voice The heat is on
Ill be disappointed if this terric is the only facet of The Cure Mick Mercer
record doesnt blast Siouxsie and which doesnt shout Teen
co up the chart pronto. FUN. Of course Roberts trying
Mat Snow determinedly to sound skittish
and frivolous but, because he
cant even cut it as a bathroom
singer, his voice is still little more
than a reedy, angst-ridden whine.
Otherwise, The Cure are as frothy
as white pop gets these days.
Shameless and cheap enough to
steal Whams Young Guns riff,
this ditty will soon be another Top MM, 10 October 1987, p33
Of The Pops cracker.
Donald McRae THE CURE
MM, 11 July 1987, p26 Just Like Heaven
(Fiction)
MM, 10 January 1987, p27 ALL ABOUT EVE Im at a loss as how to greet
Flowers In Our Hair and chronicle this important
THE MISSION (Eden) event, knowing full well that
Wasteland Where have all the glowers gone, one facetious crack out of line
(Phonogram) Sun Children? cries Julianne. could see my Assistant Editor
Preposterous mysticism and Sun Children! What planet did taking a sudden interest in The
loopy obsession I can just about she escape from? Us deprived Edgar Broughton Band and
take if accompanied by sufcient city types havent seen the sun dispatching me with strange zeal
bombastic power Im thinking for many a long year. And, in to review their gig at the Crewe
of Black Sabbath, Killing Joke, the depths of our subterranean Corn Exchange on Saturday
Earth, Wind & Fire. The Mission, pleasure palaces, strapped to night. What can I say? Well, at
however, sound thin as mist. MM, 18 April 1987, p26 our typewriters, the very last least it doesnt sound like Dexys
Theres too much wisp, not thing we need is sanctimonious Midnight Runners like the one
enough bottom to their sound. ALL ABOUT EVE hippy children fouling up the before last did. Its a colourful,
This record is embarrassingly Our Summer carefully controlled atmosphere uffy, uttery, fussy thing, a
similar to Porcupine something (Eden) of unpalatable nastiness brought mere transcription of the Down
which does not make me think When I saw the sleeve of this on by too much Swans, Young With Skool! graphic on the front
more highly of the Mission, but single I almost wept. You button Gods and hip hop. Flowers brings cover. Unimpeachable, really, but
rubs off to the detriment of the down peoples ears with tales of to mind days of contented zither- turns my face green, as if having
Bunnymen. Funny that. glorious contemporary beauty playing and complacent middle consumed too many trufes.
Simon Reynolds and the glowing disc of delight in class twats sitting in elds being David Stubbs
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Chapter 10
1988
DEREK RIDGERS
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Fields Of The
Nephilim: our
in the desert
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1988
A Fistful Of
DYNAMITE
They rode into town from the wastelands of Stevenage, f ive mean hombres with a burning thirst,
preaching the prairie gospel of Goth. They called themselves Fields Of The Nephilim and the folks
locked up their wives and daughters and got on down. Steve Sutherland joined the posse in Spain
to discover why these dudes are wanted, dead or alive
R ight, in 1988 theres that chart
crap, theres MMs hip alternatives
to that chart crap and now, out
of nowhere, out of the wastelands, unheralded,
uncelebrated in print or occasionally ridiculed,
through it. Their debut album,
Dawnrazor, topped the 1987
indie chart and yet everything
you or I have ever read about
Fields Of The Nephilim has
NME, 28 May 1988, p3
from Stevenage with shaded eyes on the main and bottom of the whole damn thing. conscated at the airport. Since weve been in
chance. See that gap and stampede straight What we want to know, then, is whether or not this band weve not been in touch with any
TLFeBOOK
1988
Of Eden
I think of the gutsy ones like Madonna, who
seem to use and abuse men with all the abandon
of a packet of tissues. Er, that isnt me at all. The
kind of woman I like is one of the lads without
being butch. Like Sandy Denny. Keeping her
femininity, but not a barrier. Using it in the
MM, 20 February 1988, p28 songwriting rather than the press shots. Which is
using it in a pure way, not a manipulative one.
burning, shooting, comes open one day its just going to be too
raping and looting
devastating for words.
FIELDS OF
THE NEPHILIM
The Nephilim
(Situation Two)
TLFeBOOK
1988
NME, 17 September 1988, p37 void that goes on here. Cave sounds
lonelier than a dodo.
COCTEAU TWINS Nowhere is this more effective
Blue Bell Knoll than on the fractious stateliness
(4AD) of The Mercy Seat, a matrix so
Theres a bit in Trains, Planes And unbelievably staggering that when
Automobiles where Steve Martin it rst came out I had to allocate
and John Candy, thwarted on certain times of night at which it
their tortuous journey home could be played. I mean, you cant
for Thanksgiving, are holed up have a peak experience between
together in yet another seedy getting out of the shower and
motel. They have reached a kind running for the bus, its just not on.
of truce, formed a warm affection The Mercy Seat is both hypnotic
for one another bred from mutual and jarring, rhythmic and loose,
adversity and theyre slobbering demonic and devout. Its as near to
around in their room, the mini humming the executioners song as
bar open, travelling the world via anyone will ever get.
miniatures rum takes them to I love the blind joy and accidental
Jamaica, vodka to Russia, that sort Nick Cave beauty of cheap pop jamborees
of thing. Theyre transported from at his most because Staring Death In The Eye
lovable
their crisis by these little nips of is so very rarely done with any true
intoxication. Momentarily, theyre courage. Tender Prey nds Cave
gone. Blue Bell Knoll reminds me of in arrogantly romantic top form. By
this bit over and over. Each sip takes beauty with a cr-r-risp, cherubic Surely this band is the voice of Harry if he doesnt force the grim
you someplace utterly else. twitter and an unintentional nod Cliff Michelmore. (Is that better reaper to extra time and then
It was two and a half years in to Brotherhood Of Mans Angelo. Robin, huh?) penalties!
the making, two and a half years in Ella Megalast Burls Forever (please Steve Sutherland Up Jumped The Devil begins
which Robin, Liz and Simon have dont let the titles put you off) is like like a Gaelic pub singalong but rises
MM, 24 September 1988, p41
made their peace with pop, listened praying in Bermuda shorts and the through smoke then ames O
to a lot of Prince and Madonna
and let themselves go a little. And
chorus goes Tear tear tear tear tear
tear tear tear. Sheer bliss.
NICK CAVE & My O My what a wretched life /I was
born on the day that my poor mother
theyve inadvertently rediscovered There is nothing cold on Blue THE BAD SEEDS died/I was cut from her belly with
a path that leads them back into our Bell Knoll, nothing stark or dark, Tender Prey Stanley knife/While my daddy did
consciousness. All of a sudden they save, perhaps, the start of The Itchy (Mute) a jig with the drunk midwife to a
count. Again. Glowbo Blow, which whisks us into As Nick Cave goes further and transcendent eddying. New single
With Blue Bell Knoll, without a labyrinth of potholes but pretty further out, his Deanna cracks the whip,
wishing to suggest anything so swiftly hurls us, breathless, up over music comes more The Bad Seeds giving it
stupid as the Cocteaus adopting the downs like a kite caught up by condently in. Nothing that extra jolt.
anything as gauche as a strategy, the wind. This is a holiday record, a on Tender Prey is Watching Alice is a
they have, to use the modern promise of pleasures unknown. especially esoteric or more restrained piano
terminology, arrived right in our Suckling The Mender sends me inaccessible, but most sigh, Cave eulogising
face. Not since the exalted Head shrieking to Spain where Liz, fully of it bristles with vain his voyeurism as the
Over Heels have they so brazenly adorned in black lace, is performing beauty and power lady in question dons
toyed with our affections, delighting a clicking amenco with the most and pride. fetish gear. He sing this
in astonishing us by touching pop sensual speech impediment in Singing from with uncharacteristic
base every so often, only to soar the world. Its as if her tongue is a comfortable compassion.
immediately and coquettishly into glued to the roof of her mouth with position halfway down the Now were running through
earth, air, re, water, any element honey while she spins, ankle deep lions throat (ah, home at last!), gutters of blood to the City Of
they choose, achieving the giddy in a shallow pool, her toes and lace Cave has created easily his most Refuge, hooks like claws and
heights of pop Valhalla most of us caressed by Robins tiger-sh until lovable record to date. It boasts imaginations riotous; this is
had given up dreaming about. he unleashes mosquitoes and she an astonishing diversity and spits another barnstormer. Slowly Goes
Oh, the places it takes us to! scampers ashore. And A Kissed Out in the face of most known deities. The Night shufes in on a mock
Its like a brochure of ecstasies, a Red Floatboat has me on a hill over Profane, passionate, poignant, vaudeville vamp; if youre not
travelogue of possibilities. Athol- a beach, Robins jets scoring the the masochistic leper has given us sold on this remarkable records
Brose is French, a baby sky with sonic vapour one of the landmark albums of the bloodshot commitment by now
doll bruised nursery trails. decade. Nick Caves abused muse youre an accountant in Telford. As
rhyme with a cutting If we werent is beginning to sprinkle something Ive just used my two-hundredth
edge that climbs a stair, already aware of the important on his 100 per cent proof superlative adjective of the night Ill
wobbles on a diving Cocteaus brilliance, breakfast simply wave you towards Sundays
board, and launches we would proclaim Those of you divorced from your Slave, Sugar Sugar Sugar and
itself, beautifully, into Blue Bell Knoll one of spirit for so long that you havent New Morning with a note saying
the ozone above the the greatest records yet absorbed Wim Wenders Wings theyre an esplanade after a maze of
Riviera. Suddenly weve ever heard. Well, Of Desire will not be aware of the eschatological escalators
were tripping at the we shouldnt let their expression that overtakes Solveig If you or I retained any doubts
cinema, experiencing unearthly standards Sommartins supernaturally pale about Nick Caves artistry, they
one of those lush early 70s Martini blind us or deafen us to how utterly face as she listens to The Carny. should be banished forthwith.
ads, our heartbeats thrumming in unique they are. This is a triumphant It would be hackneyed if she was Tender Prey is a classic, a tour
BLEDDYN BUTCHER
our ears. Cico Buff is like surng return. As I think Liz sings over the shivering by any other torch, but de force. Canonise this resolute
over Herculean orchestration, coconut shufe of Spooning Good Caves voice is somehow bitter mortal now.
Carolyns Fingers is a Benidorm Singing Gum, Happy Again! enough to match the homage to the Chris Roberts
of indecent exposure every time blood; reckless driving, one way Dogshit. This drivel was done
the wind blows his hair off his face. or another. Isnt it all about this? better the rst time around, and
NME, 20 February 1988, p19
The Mish are bland, loud, Ill never stop listening. it wasnt worth listening to then
as old and friendly as your Carmen Keats either. How a goth band can
dad; and unable to count past SISTERS OF MERCY become sentimental MOR is no
ve. Needless to say Tower Of Dominion mystery; a rootless and brainless
Strength is as pompous and facile (WEA) music is bound to oat about like
as everything else The Mission And from the eagle has landed a homeless leech until it nds
have produced since having their to the ego has landed and here something to clamp onto. The
ngers prised away from Eldritchs we go with Andrew Eldritch and fraudulent fag-end of the hippy
innitely more stylish skirts. Patricia Morrison and The Sisters era is therefore a perfect resting
Mind you, Waynes tribe of blind Of Mercy, who are probably the place for the equally brainless All
groupies will LUUURRRVE it. most enigmatic post-goth group About Eve.
Barbara Ellen in Britain. Its not mere accident David Quantick
that Eldritch has shifted his base
to Hamburg. Its a move that taps
into a vein so deep we could even
MM, 11 June 1988, p32
suggest that the thin white spook
is to contemporary pop what
Wagner was to the composers of
NICK CAVE &
his day. Such a claim would at least THE BAD SEEDS
be within the same boundaries The Mercy Seat
of camp satire that it in and (Mute)
THE CURE
any critics whinge in seconds.
If Alvin Stardust had ever read
Seat is the electric chair, and
Caves protagonist is caught in
SIOUXSIE &
Hot Hot Hot Byron then he would have cut it to that mortal coil that links the base THE BANSHEES
(Fiction) this day like the Sisters do. with God, by which spiralling logic Peek-A-Boo
Ye olde Smiths antics are James Brown every condemned man is a martyr, (Polydor)
reminiscent in many ways to the nailed up alongside Christ. Oriental marching band hip hop
MM, 4 June 1988, p32
curious ramblings of Adam Ant. This song rotates in your head, with farting horns and catchy
He treads some desperate, lone especially as it moves towards accordion. If we were served by
path through inspiration and mire SISTERS OF MERCY its crescendo as the moment of a decent pop radio station, Peek-
alike, but occasionally sticks his Lucretia, My Reflection truth arrives, heralded by Blixa A-Boo would be a huge hit. This
head out of a pothole to proclaim (WEA) Bargelds shock electric bolt of record was made by people with a
the discovery of gold. The dance Like a shrouded owl and a tattered guitar. This cyclical construction sense of humour. It was not made
mix of Hot Hot Hot is spuriously pussycat sitting claw in paw in a is a masterstroke as Caves own by Goths: phew.
welcoming, but basically a barge made of weeds, Andrew value-system is a circuit, without David Quantick
rehorse year. Its kinda weird recently invited Astbury to be an odd-job man Budweiser, American football, skateboards and
on his new album, contributing harmonies, baseball caps turned backwards.
When Bon Jovi/Aerosmith engineer Bob angel, but she gradually lost her power to y. She
Rock was called in to produce the new Cult lost her freedom through drugs and the abuse
album, his brief was to take a sonic photograph and people using her like a fucking fashion
of the group. And the photograph he took is accessory. She fell from grace. She died.
memorable for its lights, its shades, its colours I felt there was a parallel between her life and
and its space, enough to accommodate Billy my life. I was a victim. From the day I decided
Duffys increasingly accomplished guitar and I wanted to be a punk rocker until I got my
some occasionally extravagant arrangements. band together, I was having things consistently
NME, 8 APRIL 1989, P32 Theres the dramatic sweep of the big slow thrown in my face. I was very self-destructive
number, Edie, with its eight cellists; the cos I couldnt deal with rejection. I was nearly
THE CULT powerful, emphatic Soul Asylum, complete with murdered in Glasgow. Kids who decided to
Sonic Temple its shades of Kashmir. dress and express themselves that way had a lot
(Beggars Banquet) Everything with that kind of excellent of guts, cos they had to confront violence every
Sonic temple: The drum sound and beat is going to be accused day. There were people always waiting outside of
Cult as sensitive of sounding like Led Zeppelin, huffed Duffy, concerts to beat other people up.
all-seeing rock clearly anticipating the reference, but still not too
legends. No, willing to like it. The Cult are watching the progress of British
Gods. Stairway To The tempo was dictated by the way wed artists in America and Yankee reaction to them.
Heaven without already written the song, the chords In America, theyre mildly bemused by the
a niff of devil and the melody. Im perfectly names that are springing forth out
worship or hint of willing to defend it as long as of Britain into popular American
demonic inspiration. But The necessary. Is it in the same consciousness, said Billy Duffy.
Cults triangle of souls Duffy, Astbury, Stewart key? No. Same chords? The Pet Shop Boys, Rick
wouldnt illuminate Jimmy Pages left eye. Very few. The song itself Astley, Samantha Fox and
Sonic Temple is the way theyd like to see is so good that if its these from the country that
themselves, but the music in reality is little gonna get compared to produced the greatest
more than a pastiche. Still, Sonic Temple is a one of Led Zeppelins rock music ever.
noble attempt to pair the cerebral side of the best tunes, I cant And then youve
Love album, its feminine nature and haunting really complain. got bands who are
spirituality, with the parched, eshless bones of It was regarded as almost
Electric. Like Mary Shelley theyre attempting completely gods in Britain,
to recharge an emaciated corpse. uncontrived, said Ian. The
The spirited Fire Woman has already burnt added Astbury. Sugarcubes, The
a hole in the Top 40, Astburys neighing vocals Its probably the Mission, The Nephilim,
calling out in tribute to his girlfriend, born in most romantic song who come to LA and realise
the Chinese year of the rehorse. A love song on the record, even theyre only starting off.
thats as aggressive as you can get before you though we took the You get the feeling that
run towards the battered wives home. opening line from a all of those bands think that
American Horse is the nearest theyve piece in The Times. The all theyve gotta do it is put a
come to perfection since Sanctuary. The song editor wrote this article record out and theyre gonna
stands, slides and slithers to the conclusion about the Stones when be megastars in America,
that the subtle, sensitive spirit which possesses they got arrested in said Duffy. And the reality
Astburys lyrics has to overspill into the music, 67. He was saying, hits them like a ton of bricks. If
before the nectar can become as spellbinding How dare the they had a struggle in Britain,
as this. The Cult at their most haunted. establishment use its 10-fold in America.
On Edie (Ciao Baby), Astbury sings to the Stones as the You have to go on the road,
an angel with broken wings with a gothic focal point for the said Ian. Weve been on the
reverberance that carries her from freedom drug problems of road since 1984. Weve had
to drug abuse without glorifying her self- the country? And guns pointed at us, all the way
destructive traits. Its as fragile as life itself. the headline was to playing Long Beach Arena in
HM compromise leers through the lacy Who Would Break front of 12,000 people.
underskirts of Sweet Soul Sister and reveals A Buttery On A Weve just got our foot in
a twisted version of the Paranoid riff. Its still Wheel? the door, said Duffy. Its a big
beautiful though. A spacey pulsing heartbeat The conversation drifted mountain to climb, and were just beginning to
hangs on a single ethereal note, until pierced by around fragile things which are need oxygen at the moment.
Duffys guitar and drawn out of its body like the easily destroyed,
blood of a vampires victim. Perfect.
The focus of Sonic Temple is summed up
un-macho
things, spiritual I was a victim from the The bang on the door
was an interruption, a
in a line from Medicine Train, with the image
of a worshipped artist performing in a venue,
a latter day temple: All red up, a desolation
things, and rested
on the topic of the
vulnerable artist.
day I became a punk hint, a nuisance.
Do you know, said
Jamie as we vacated the
angel shootin from the hip in the sonic temple. Its amazing how a lot of beautifully creative suite, my dad was a violinist with the London
In The Cults sonic temple they sing of angels, people at some point confront the ak, Symphony Orchestra? He played on a whole
Gods and re, purifying images of goodness. remarked Ian. A lot of them falter by the wayside series of Classic Rock albums, and the rst
All the little ol devils that inhabited Electric and die in really horrible circumstances, used up one included Paint It Black and Whole Lotta
have been exorcised. Now the only thing that and spat out so the machine can continue. Thats Love. At the time I was thrashing around in a
is haunting and holding them back is a lack of what Edie is about and thats Edie Sedgwick, garage trying to be a punk rocker. I didnt have
self-condence in some of their older wisdoms. the denitive poor little rich girl. the connection then. Punk rock was a rebellion
Why continue plagiarising when they can do She was one of Andy Warhols things, and she against everything including Led Zeppelin and
TOM SHEEHAN
so much better on their own? was a victim. She was extremely nave and she classical music. Now I can see the relevance of all
Helen Mead went along with it. I perceived her as a desolation rock music, from when it started to now.
TEN YEARS
INLIPSTICK
AND POWDER
NME, 8 April 1989, p15 The Cure (l to r): Boris
Williams, Robert Smith,
Roger ODonnell, Porl
Thomson, Simon Gallup
he Spiderman is recounting
Lock up your lipstick, The Cure are back.
t his favourite tale of horror
and woe. Its a long and strange
and infamous story, and I have heard it
many times before, but never like tonight, and
With a brilliant new single Lullaby and
never from the Spiderman himself.
It begins in Blackpool three decades ago
an LP Disintegration to follow, theyre
and ends in Baker Street in three hours
time, and thats as much truth as you need on their best form in years. In James
to know. A bizarre stew of lies and dreams,
and as compelling as hypnosis, it has the
most fantastic soundtrack you could want.
Browns interview, Robert Smith reveals
And the plot? Thats up to you.
Robert James Smith of The Cure stretches
why he sacked Lol and why The Cure will
his eight long great black arms around me and
we begin.
I wanted something like the really bad
never play live again after the next tour
Marvel characters with really stupid powers. tension and fear and dread and treats them to changes than the England squad, but who hasnt?
Like The Candy Striped Man, who could turn a coat of musical nery. Cloaked in Eastern The Banshees, The Fall and Joy Division/New
everything into candy stripes. string arrangements and rattlesnake percussion, Order all have. And as our interview came to
Smith is describing The Spiderman and The Lullaby will do for bedtime stories what Close an end Smith told me he had recently asked Lol
Spiderman is describing Smith. Both appear, To Me did for furniture care. The creepies from Tolhurst, the only other original Cure member
as monster and victim, in The Cures haunting Crawley are well and truly back. remaining, not to bother being involved any
new single Lullaby. Whispered from the more but more of that later. With the release of
depths of Smiths most tortured memories and The 80shave been a memorable lifetime for The Disintegration, their eleventh LP, next month,
DEREK RIDGERS
set in the heart of nightmare land, Lullaby, Cure, one of the few interesting bands to start youll discover that The Cure are being as regal
like all The Cures best works, takes nervous and nish the decade. Theyve had more line-up and chilling as ever.
Developing their ability to demolish peoples popularity of the videos on the edgling MTV. Strangely Smith is just as likely to discuss the
expectations, The Cure have spent the last The United States have fallen for The Cure in end of The Cure as an actuality.
decade changing from a dark and intense such a way that of the two million sales of their Each time I think its the last time well do
underground band into a glam but imaginative last LP Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, half of them something its obviously closer to the last time I
Top Of The Pops accessory. Their singles have were American, and Spin magazine recently will do something. Also things that bother me
been as unpredictable as their LPs are solid, and included them twice in their Hundred Best seem to crystallise rather than go away.
Smith himself has become the thinking mans Singles of All Time. I think Im back where I started from very
Sixth Formers crumpet. We met a girl in America who was at college normal, he says. And thats why I think the
Strangely this metamorphosis happened doing her thesis on us, says Smith. She group will stop. This tour has become a huge
while Britain experienced the biggest teeny-bop did things like counted all the references to tour because I wanted to go to places like
explosion since the early 70s. The bands web of drowning in our songs and said, Did you know Hungary and Bulgaria before we stop. I know
success has spread throughout the world. There youve died 74 times in your songs? well never do another tour again, Im not even
have been over eight million sure if well play live again. If I
album sales, tours that have
stretched from Australasia to the I resent people you grew up admiring turning even leave it as an opening we
would turn into The Troggs.
Middle East to South America
and back, and theres an ever- out to be tossers like David Bowie. I just wish I dont want to turn into a
shambling monster.
growing mass of US support that From an observers point of
was built almost entirely on the hed been killed in a car accident after Low view I can understand why this
will look like an end because
Im so intrinsically linked to The Cure, but in
real life Im not. I dont carry it round with me
during the months away. I dont think, Id better
get The Cure out of the cupboard itll be getting
lonely or rusty.
I resent people who have a patronising
attitude to their audience, keep feeding the same
old shit. I resent people you grow up admiring
who turn out to be the biggest tossers, like
David Bowie. I just wish hed been killed in a car
accident after hed nished Low. No, I shouldnt
say that about anyone.
130N MN EM EO ROIRGIIGNIANLASL S
??
1989
mind three. The songs are my children and the be a really liberating event Smith discusses Its challenging and claustrophobic, often
group are my pets. it with a nality. He is also currently pondering poignant, often tedious. Its nearly surprising.
what to do with the solo LP he has recorded, Youve heard of the cowardly lion. Meet the
Smith was born in Blackpool, which explains the ready to release.
hesitant dinosaurs.
more recent lust for day-glo glamour and tack, Each time I do another LP I wonder Chris Roberts
I wanted to get away from myself as replace The Cure. This he nds both remarkable
and disappointing.
My stuff has always come from lack of faith
a morose and deeply tortured person in anything, he reckons, yet he takes pleasure
in cooking, the works of Denton Welsh and
I know that have upset me if I had come to terms with it. Dylan Thomas and his ever-increasing catalogue
they eventually I think a lot of people around me at the time of old records.
listen to the of Pornography seemed to enjoy seeing me in Is it really possible to be both a pop star and
records, but that state. Its so much easier and more enjoyable normal? Or do we have to presume a basic lack
they dont know now than it was ve years ago. I know now that of sanity is required for both?
Im thinking about I could turn round and tell them all to fuck off. Robert Smith of The Cure one of the few
them listening to it I could do that before but I used to worry about remaining everyday nutters capable of crooning
when Im recording it. I what wed do next. a decent tune.
AndThe Ass
SawThe Angel
A
nd The Ass Saw The Angel, out. Eucrow survives
Nick Caves debut novel, has to tell us the tale Could you sign it:
consumed a large part of his of the swamp, a To Yummy Bunnikins,
love from Nicky-Poo?
last four years. He drags us feet-rst dark and menacing Er, its for my sister
into a dimly-lit ghost town in the parable that screams
American South, territory previously from the page. Caves His characters are vile and spectacle and, once again this
excavated by William Faulkner, anti-hero believes in misshapen. They cannot becomes a disturbing experience
Cormac McCarthy and Flannery angels but his soul win our sympathy. Yet, Once more, it seems Cave has
OConnor. Here, amid the festering is one big fuckin somehow, one suspects that taken his obsessions as far as they
swamps, grim phantoms and rolling black twisty knot compassion lurks among will go. This reads like four years
thunder, we nd Euchrid Eucrow planted in the backest these grim phantoms. And of madness. Every last thought is
relating his tale of murder, incest, backwoods. He lies The Ass returns to haunt thrown down to shrivel and perish.
betrayal, vengeance and love in on his deathbed and documents his most remarkable album, 1985s Caves dissenters will dismiss it as a
stark jumbled burst of recall. the grim atrocities of his life with an The Firstborn Is Dead. Theres a grand folly. But if you take a morose
DEREK RIDGERS/ STEVE DOUBLE
At the beginning we nd Eucrow unfailing eye. Every last abominable similar sense of desolation, and, pleasure in seeing this edge-of-
being ripped from his mothers act is recorded, and relished. like the album, at times it gets so the-frame man scribbling his own
womb with a broken liquor bottle, Cave is no Cormac McCarthy, but insufferable you want to howl with prescription for the blues, youll nd
watching his twin brother die. His his pose has a raw-boned quality laughter. Then, all of a sudden, some delight in here somewhere.
brother is the lucky one, as it turns to it thats surprisingly effective. you are drawn back to the awful Jonh Wilde
wiser/Or just getting older/ When we indeed. Its ironic that Dreamhouse.
know the shoulder/Wed most like their coltish beauty Whats interesting
to cry on. Love offers little hope betrays their darker, about Boomerang
the gorgeously tender rock ballad deeper intent. is how Siouxsie has Siouxsie and
Budgie:
December pictures a woman Steve Sutherland incorporated her gyn-ecologists
fact that the producer, Bob BE: At the rst play of Lullaby
Rock, has previously Guys suspicion visibly withers. MM, 9 December 1989, p32
worked with Aerosmith Its a terric single. Sexy, scary,
and Bon Jovi is the fascinating, murky and just casual ALL ABOUT EVE
best indication of their enough to enjoy its own sense of December
overriding caution, but this, ridiculousness. Is Guy a Love-Cat? (Mercury)
however, is not to suggest that GC: When they rst started Cast splendidly adrift in their
it lacks numerous strengths. Its they were my favourite group. ambivalent emotional hayloft, the
certainly their nest effort since Ive always like The Cure, Ive Eves, abrim with mordant passion,
She Sells Sanctuary. always like the idea of them. And ridicule all other festive lth, and,
Its also worth noting that while listening to Lullaby is brilliant. as usual, the listener immediately
Automatic Blues, the seven-inch The strings are exquisite. Just feels at home in the song, even
B-side, sounds exactly like Led beautiful. Utterly beautiful. if miffed by the dcor, knowing
Zeps archaic interpretation of Success has affected their music in the video has to be a treat. Andy
the blues, Messing The Blues, the best possible way in the workhouse, hanging up his
the additional track on the Barbara Ellen & Guy Chadwick stocking, Mark in the outhouse
12-inch, is somewhat (The House Of Love) (luxury), kissing Santa under
refreshing. The music the mistletoe, Julianne beaming
is entirely acoustic inside her speeding sleigh, and
double bass, slide the wretched Tiny Tim, getting
guitar, harmonica it all horribly wrong, earnestly
and the swipe of setting off to complete his bob-
brushes against the a-job errands.
snare and Chuck Remem-BURR, Decem-
Berry, Bo Diddley, BURR. A brilliant, almost oash
Big Joe Turner chorus, owers on Juliannes
and even Billy strident trellis-work, deep bass
Idol are given thumbprints abound on the
supposedly crisp drum slabs, and the song
improvised ends abruptly after the sort of
namechecks. NME, 1 July 1989, p10 gratuitously violent guitar solo
If theyd been youd expect from a man who
so bold as to THE CULT habitually crosses the Astoria
select this song Edie (Ciao Baby) threshold, accompanied by an
for the A-side, (Beggars Banquet) 18-stone friend, specically to
theyd have BE: First it was American Indians, make rude remarks to security
made Single then Led Zep, now Ian Astbury staff. Rude, Tim?? He has to go
Of The Week. has read a Ladybird book on Edie confessional after reading one
Of course Sedgwick and this bless him is page of Viz.
TOM SHEEHAN
THE MISSION
Carved In Sand
(Phonogram )
Carved In Sand
catches The Mish
on the crest of
another wave
of phenomenal
ordinariness.
Hung with all the
usual accessories
junk shop
mysticism, Sesame Street metaphor and
nger-dancing chintziness this ten-strong
mountain-mover is a prime cut indeed.
For all the glib criticism ung gaily (and
daily) at The Mish, their noise remains both
graceful and rugged; a well-worn, in-bred
hybrid of pomp rock and Avalon nursery
rhyme. Divorced from Husseys parabolic
prose, yer average Mish song has a tea-and-
slippers familiarity to it.
Buttery On A Wheel is a superior love
Tony James and
song true, its title is nicked from an old Andrew Eldritch:
editorial in The Times, and yes, the idea of 21st Century boys
love being as fragile as a buttery wing is
nothing if not shite but Wayne sings it
with such an uninching honesty only a
professional whinge merchant could fail to
be touched by it.
Elsewhere, Grapes Of Wrath pushes its
luck a bit, with its lyric about toiling on the
land and reaping the harvest, but a modest
pearl like Sea Of Love ultimately wins you
over with its beautiful Dear Prudence guitar
upholstery. Deliverance is the albums
Sister Sputnik
he Sisters Of Mercy have recruited a new bass
MM, 3 February 1990, p3
if youre a top Mish fan, you will. working on material for the next Sisters LP. comment on Tony James latest activities.
Andrew Collins Ever since the success of This Corrosion, the Watch this space
in the sky. Where takes a hair-raising hold. Heaven Or Las Vegas experimentally minded pop
Hendrix and Joplin The orchestration is (4AD) scientists who make white mice
so miserably failed, lush and the songs are Lets get one thing straight. of their listeners, forcing them
Cave somehow immaculately crafted. I am not a fan of The into The Subjective
succeeded, although The Good There is hardly a single Cocteau Twins. Music Corner when
Son is predictably devoid of self- bow tie askew throughout the entire can be a passionate, communication, not
congratulatory adulation. performance. And yes, The Good terrifying, mysterious inscrutability, has
This is where Cave anoints the Son does threaten self-parody, but thing and still feel always been the axis
sleeve, glaring at a grand piano with if this is showbiz, Cave is still lurking cold to the touch but for true genius.
an audience of four enraptured in the shadowlands. The Cocteau Twins I cannot be so
young girls in a perverse translation Its still more gritty than glitzy have always struck presumptuous as to
of the Abbey National advert. This smooth surfaces have a sandpaper me as being the very tell you what Heaven
is where the Bad Seeds succumb underlay. And the likes of Lucy are antithesis of musical Or Las Vegas is like,
to strings and Caves desire for too oored by honesty to fall victim truehearts. Like vinyl but I can tell you what
tradition over idiosyncratic to contrived campness. Marie Antoinettes, they have I think. Denitely their best since
experimentation. And where Memories fade, but Caves scars spent their entire career believing Treasure, occasionally a hairy
Kicking Against The Pricks was still linger. Rest (un)easy the good rather stupidly that your sweet (outsiders?) st does try to thump
a timeless covers paradise, this is son is still the black sheep. tooth houses your entire digestive long-overdue clarity into the lyrics.
where Cave turns the tables and Simon Williams system and that the fat, squashy But these moments are few and
creates his own potential hand-me- cakes they bake, avoured with rich, far between the rest is standard
down classics. dark chocolate to hide the taste Cocteaus fare. Giant steps forward,
In Lament, he has created quite of bromide, are enough to keep fairy steps back, cruelty and passion
possibly the nest pop song of you going. homogenised for consumption
the year, wherein false Furthermore, after inside plastic bubble psyches, and
jaunts swing into a quite trivialising lifes absolutes of course, Frazer dribbling party
gorgeous chorus: So pain, fear, the death of love streamers, fog and razor-blades
dry your eyes/And into sprays of Frazers out of her ever-versatile facial
turn your head hieroglyphic warble- orice. The title track, Cherry
away, croons Cave, baubles, the Twins next Coloured Funk, Frou Frou Foxes
wandering over step is always to stand In The Midsummer Fires and the
Scott Walkers back from the pretty single Iceblink Luck benet hugely
memory and wreckage, refusing to from having rock hearts with pop
losing himself clear up or explain the arteries, and Heaven Or Las Vegas
in his own mess theyve made. is a beautiful sounding album. But
massive, Our minds are supposed its spoilt for me by what I interpret
magnicent to do all the talking, as a stench of pomp and dishonesty.
melody. The Ship and while it is right and So, listen and enjoy by all means,
Song is similarly good that music should be but play the naughty twins at their
dramatic, one breath away left open to interpretation, lets own game. Remain detached, do
from being overblown. not fool ourselves that anything not be duped into believing their
Cave, unembarrassed by his other than our own sense of music means anything. At the end of
frankness, is oating proudly on melodramatic self-importance the day The Cocteau Twins are little
the swelling sophistication. is connecting with the self- more than cold-eyed midwives who
And tragedy taints every important melodrama in them. make music for people who wish
tear: the family-aimed fury of Worse, its all quite theyd never been born.
the title track is wracked and intentional. Exactly the This mortal coil is not a cosmic
sneering; The Weeping opposite of their contraceptive device. It is life itself.
Song is noise torture, an affectedly queer, When The Cocteau Twins realise
STEVE DOUBLE/CHRISTINA BIRRER
unforced document ethereal media this, they will scream their rst
of a dispirited image, The honest breath. Then the birth rate
community; Liz Frazer: Cocteau Twins for which some already hold them
while The hieroglyphic are actually partly responsible will really soar.
Hammer warble-baubles Barbara Ellen
t
he Sisters Of Mercy, Mark Three I guess, merits of Sigue Sigue (the rst to do this, the 1959 (a vintage year) and adores cats, women,
are back, and facing up to reality like rst to do that, we invented sampling, Prince drugs, and old Bowie records, we get along like a
goth always did. The highly confusing said hello to me), he comes round to today. fairly warm house. After a few minutes he even
new line-up is Andrew Eldritch, Tony I tell him I came here as a Sisters person. takes his shades off.
James (formerly of Generation X and Sigue I thought that was the game. He agrees to Eldo is fantastically, magnicently, withered,
Sigue Sputnik), Tim Bricheno (formerly of All agree. He reckons the difference between him and talks like Michael Caine. So, wheres he been
About Eve), and Andreas Bruhn. Theres a new and Eldritch is that he reads GQ magazine and since the Floodland album?
single called More, co-written by Eldritch and Eldritch doesnt, though they both respect Hamburg. I like the people. I like the
Jim Steinman, and an imminent album, Vision the erotic potential of gas masks. James guest list cigarette machines that work. Where I live
Thing. And a tour. The previous ones have been for the Wembley show was so big that another everythings open all night, but not dangerously
legendary; one recalls the farewell fog-fest at night was added. This may or may not be a joke. so, just civilised. With a little bit of an edge.
the Royal Albert Hall in 1985. And anyone that Tony is actually quite funny. He makes us all Would you get bored if there wasnt an edge?
covers Hot Chocolates Emma deadpan is cool laugh. I just worry that laughing is not entirely Yeah, I would. I couldnt live in Holland or
as fuck, lets face it. what The Sisters Of Mercy are all about. Sweden or any of those places where everybodys
The records are pretty much what youd What do I do in this band?
expect, More being a shameless rewrite of James asks. Im in charge of
Bowies Cat People, and the album setting going out. You see, you can
streets of suitably dark and decadent imagery have the misery and the
to every Bowie/Iggy trick in the book. pain thats him and the
The Sisters vinyl return is not bad at all in fun too. Thats my side;
fact its probably about one-twentieth as good the two co-exist. Weve
as Eldritch thinks it is. known each other years.
It can work.
His attitudes and motives are wholly
commendable. Eldritch plays The Star from Tim Bricheno reckons he
dusk to dawn. To interview hes a dream smart, was always leaning towards
wry, laconic, erudite, deluded but not deluded, the rockier side of All About
and just a little bit nasty. He may, however, have Eve, used to be a Sisters fan,
underestimated popular antipathy towards his and never dreamed Id end
new collaborator Mr James. To most, hes that up being one of them. Tim
bloke from the Sputniks who hung out with is sweet and ingenuous. Or
Janet Street-Porter. maybe hes just as jet-lagged
Its difcult to picture Tony James ascending as everyone else, their plane
enigmatically on a black cloud above Hades, back from an LA video
a veritable horseman of the apocalypse. The shoot for More having
forthcoming shows will require large quantities landed this same day.
of dry ice to make that one wash enough Eldritch doesnt know the
smoke to hide the portable phone, anyway. meaning of fatigue. Or
As if to hang himself, Tony James starts on at rather he possesses such
me about my review of the last Sputnik album, an abundance of willpower
tells me Martin Degville is after my blood, all that he can conquer it with
that sort of stuff. I gaze at him in disbelief how ease. He soon relaxes his
could any grown man defend that tosh? so innate superiority complex.
after a 20-minute lecture on the life-afrming As the man was born in
EXCESS ALL
Its been two years since Floodland reinstated Eldritch
as the Godfather of Goth. Now hes back with a new
single, a new band and a new album. Chris Roberts
discovers why hes the last great rocknroll star
MM, 6 October 1990, p32
sensible and knows what theyre doing. always taken the view that what I want to give When did you rst think it was ludicrous?
What preoccupies you? them is what they need. What they want is When they rst put me at the front. When
Same as everybody else really. Women. neither here nor there. I know whats best. Thats I was the drummer I thought, This is all
Drugs. Newspapers. My attitudes have shifted my job. And my brief. To do what I want. right. And then I found myself at the front,
a little. Im drinking again now. I spent a long Is that the role of the rock star? probably because I was one of the worlds worst
time not drinking as a reaction. By the time we Its the role of a great one. Thats not to say drummers, and I thought, Oh dear, this is
nished touring last time I was doing almost a that anybody that does it is great. pretty uncool. And, er, its still pretty uncool.
litre of gin a day. Im keeping an eye on it this Do you set out to enlighten, or pervert? You seem to have taken to it like a duck to
time cos alcohols not very good for me. It doesnt Ive never taken the view that any form of water.
turn me into a better person; it just makes me fall art is really to tell anybody anything they didnt No, it terries me. And the more people turn
asleep in public more. Or fall over. know. Particularly in a medium as wonderfully up the more terried I get. I still go out there
ludicrous as rocknroll, I dont think you can terried. And preferably out of my skull.
Are you giving the punters what they want? convince anybody of anything they didnt think But you seem immobile in your calm.
Oh, I hadnt really thought about that. Ive or know already. Its like a rabbit in the headlights. Well
AREAS
this earth?
No.
Oh. Then what is? (Thinks: if he says cats, Ill
say the albums great.)
I nd cats the most beautiful thing.
The albums great.
You can tell the intelligence of a cat also by
the way it moves. Its the same kind of owing
grace when its just right, but with a kind of
slyness in the great cats.
So does beauty fade with age for you?
Yes but you can still tell it in the eyes. Beauty
changes. It gets rechannelled. I mean if Joanna
Lumley walked through the door now, youd be
outta here in a ash, I can tell you.
I ask the by now immensely likeable Eldritch
if he realises hes missing a Manchester United
game on telly as we speak and he grumbles,
Yeah, thanks to you. His is an innovative and
charming way of winning one over.
Can you have a good time without drugs?
Oh yeah. I have to.
Whats perfect contentment for you?
A quiet room, four blank walls, and a cat.
TOM SHEEHAN
No macho strutting here these are but artistically glum walked on the water/But now, however, they are still The
positivity fops in corduroy kecks. place. did he walk on the air? Mission as we know and sort of love
Full Tilt kicks in Stones-style Still, The Mission Theres a barmy crooning them, only with a few new ideas and
just so we dont forget why were forge on, caring less than one jot song with a Kinks-style beat called a sequencer. Hurrah for that.
here, and proceeds to go metal about the critics and making records She Conjures Me Wings, which David Quantick
Between thinking of buying small Cornish villages and uncharted Islands, The Cure have
recorded their ninth album in all its sticky-up-haired glory. Reformed goth Andrew Collins
is granted an audience with the worlds most lucrative pantomime
1990-1992
t
he embers of six months crackle in actually seen the world; teen angst gone mad. and it comes with hexagons on. I backcomb it a
the replace. A ne old chessboard But goth music was lling the Albert Hall by lot too. I did use mousse for a while, but it used to
sits unattended. The tang of freshly 1986, in the stark, skeletal form of The Sisters Of drip onto my nose when I was on stage.
percolated coffee mingles with the Mercy. Many of the goth bands gave the genre a Robert Smith, Just 17, August 1985
comforting funk of Irish wolfhound and oak. bad name, though some of them extracted high
The grandfather clock is stuck permanently at drama, cut-price kicks and even some humour Face it, The Cures ludicrous look has been their
12. The ghostly sound of piano keys being jabbed from the goth manifesto of unforgiving railroad fortune. Robert Smith, in his over-generous
lters through into the empty snooker room. rhythms, guitar histrionics, Hammer imagery uffy sweater, wrinkled black drainpipes and the
On the sideboard sits a bottle of Sandemans and lost chords. undone trainers of a much larger man, crowned
port, a single daffodil, a discarded archery arrow But it was The Cure, from Crawley in Sussex, with that award-winning ha-ha-ha-have-you-
and a garish tube of Living Nightmare Glow-In- who took it out of the belfry and into the front had-an-electric-shock hairdo, is, whether he
The-Dark Make-Up. Someone upstairs is playing room. It was Robert Smith whose own particular likes it or not, a modern-day icon.
Loveless by My Bloody Valentine. brand of back-combed foppishness found a place On the day I meet up with The Cure at Chez
We are in the heart of verdant Oxfordshire. in the glossy pop papers. Dick, they look very much like The Cure. Smith
The clock might, if it was working, strike four. The Cure grew into a goth hit machine (19 to may have trimmed his head-topiary recently, and
So, who lives in a house like this? date), an international phenomenon and, yep, the blind mans lipstick is absent, but he is still a
Its The Cure or, as Roger Daltrey had it on the most successful alternative band that ever satisfying caricature of himself.
last years Brits, when he presented their Best shufed disconsolately about the earth. Their Large, bird-like bassist Simon Gallup claims
British Group award The Kyoo-aarhh! only contender in the prot-margin stakes at that all ve of them happened to wear black
The Manor studio, at Shipton-on-Cherwell, record company Polydor is James Last. And he because, Its the most practical colour, you dont
owned by Richard Branson (as hinted at by the makes two albums a year. have to wash it till you smell, but this is clearly
embarrassing hippy mural of Phil Collins, Mike To deftly write goth off as a peculiarly a reex cover-up (and a typical dose of laddish
Oldeld, Feargal Sharkey and Peter Gabriel 80s phenomenon is to deny the existence of hygiene bravado to boot).
halfway up the stairs) costs around 6,000 a hundreds of black-clad, aromatic, asexual If The Cure changed, thousands of sprayed
week to rent. But The Kyoo-aarrhh can weather gormtroopers who huddle in coffee shops and teenagers the world over would feel cheated
that. They are, after all, the most popular and refectories and branches of the Body Shop and betrayed. The Cure are loved and invested
successful cult band in the world. up and down the land to this day. The goth is in and stuck onto walls because since their
And this, for the time being, is their house. (despite appearances) alive and unwell. commercial watershed in 1984 they NEVER
There is a rumour going about the place that All About Eve are not a goth band. Nor are CHANGE.
a) Branson is thinking of selling up; and b) The The Sisters of Mercy. At least, thats what they Wish despite the bands protestations
Cure are thinking of buying. This would be say. Being a goth means, well, never having is another Cure record. This is no put-down.
good. Robert Smith and his quaintly dishevelled, to say youre a goth. Goths think lazy music Another Cure record is a good thing. If Wish
forever-adolescent thirtysomething pals should journalists invented the term. They did. were a lm, it wouldnt win any individual
live together in the same elegant country The question is, will The Cure admit to Oscars, but would probably scoop one of those
mansion with tons of wolfhounds and chess and being a goth band? Are they embarrassed that Lifetime Achievement Awards. Thats the sort
grouse-shooting. they invented or at the very least popularised, of album it is. In short, masterful slowie Trust
You wish. legitimised, patented goth? on Side Two made me want to weep in an
Robert: Do you think we did really? When underpass, and the single High miraculously
The 1980s: now there was a funny decade for we were making Pornography there wasnt any cured my u when they put it in the ofce.
our old pal pop music. The Smiths, Madness, such a thing as goth, we were just miserable, not Disintegration, The Cures last LP in 1989,
New Order, The Human League, Frankie Goes like goth with the our and the hats, all that. sold in excess of three million copies worldwide.
To Hollywood, ABC, Public Enemy, The Stone Ive never actually liked goth bands. Ive always So why make another record?
Roses, The Jesus & Mary Chain, Margaret despised The Sisters Of Mercy. Why did we make the last one? asks Robert,
Thatcher, acid house. You were there. But Why? rhetorically.
something else happened between the years Cos the musics shit. Is there any thing else you can get? Any more
1980 and 1989, and it was somewhere between I always use gel, not hairspray. Its called KMS fame, any more satisfaction, any more cash?
a fashion movement and a creeping Its not about continual gain.
mould on the underside of post-punk
Britain. It was gothic rock, or goth, Ive never actually liked goth We dont think, Its about time The
Cure made another album, if we
THE CURE
Wish
(Fiction)
may even be their best album. We used to come home from the pub on this tow Unlike you. Ha ha ha ha!
David Quantick path, and there was a low hanging bit, and I came Cheers.
Puke universe! The buttery restraint of The Weeping Song I dont mean to be a killjoy. I do
on a wheel reference is taken Over a trolling, downcast realise that Andrew Eldritch is the
from a 60s Times editorial which shanty backbeat, Cave and funniest cartoon character this
asked whether it was worth using Bargeld engage in a Theres A side of Bart Simpson and Barts
the full force of law every time Hole In My Bucket-type dialogue big brother Billy Idol. But I have a
a pop star was caught taking in which all the world weeps for horrible suspicion that there are
drugs. Of course it is! Wipe out MM, 22 September 1990, p35 our sad lot. Touching if youre people over the age of 12 who
the drug supply and you wipe out willing to go along with the take this laughable nonsense
the music. The Mish, however, THE CURE courtly rituals that lead you to the seriously, and thats truly sad.
demand more direct action. I Never Enough heart of the song. Unfortunately More is the usual dull, gruff,
want you all to put on balaclavas (Fiction) the word that springs to mind absurdly pompous rumble
tonight, sneak into your local Profoundly baggacious, Never when considering listening to punctuated with plastic soul wails
record shop and smash with Enough trips and ops around new Nick Cave records is should about needing love as if Eldritch
hammers every copy of this record the room like an army of wazzy rather than want. didnt adore himself with more
you can nd. rejects gone AWOL. Fuzztone Nick Cave sounds like a man than enough torrid passion to
Steven Wells Roses guitar and lobotomised who will never scream again. make any other lover redundant.
Mondays bass, topped off with David Stubbs Dave Jennings
Robert Smiths overripe hiccups,
stutters and whoops. Arguments
about whos ripping who off end
here,as do questions about the
extent to which Smiths tongue
is penetrating his cheek. Because
Enough is enough. A hit.
Paul Lester
COCTEAU TWINS NME, 20 October 1990, p22 NME, 23 May 1992, p17
Iceblink Luck
(4AD) THE CURE THE CURE
Thankfully the Cocteaus have Close To Me Friday Im In Love
discarded the Noddy and (Fiction) (Fiction)
Tinkerbell indulge in sensual From the heavy metal brain Another Cure single. Usual
massage approach that so surgery of Never Enough we Cure tune, always liked it. It is
exasperated semi-fans like me op back in time to 85s Close To remarkable only in that Robert
who always wanted Liz Frazer to MM, 15 September 1990, p34 Me, a preview for Bob and cos makes no reference to either cats
kick vocal ass a little.
JC: Thats quite good for them.
NICK CAVE & Mixed Up album, with that Paul
Oakenfold doing the remixing
or Japanese babies, but Cure fans
will be reassured by the fact that
BD: The Cocteau Twins have THE BAD SEEDS here. The panting, snufing, Robert goes Dooby dooby doo
never given a fuck about whats The Weeping Song claustrophobic original remains at least four times and sings at
happening around them. They just (Mute) pretty much intact (although I one point about spinning around
get on and do what they do and This is a weeping song/A song dont remember the daffy, jazz like a sheep. And he doesnt take
they seem to the getting better at in which to weep. These days, sax solo) and Oakenfold wodges drugs like the crappy Mancy Shite
it. Attitude matters just as much as Nick Cave songs are epic, stagey, on a fairly standard shufe dance Wankers and those other rubbish
the music in most cases. deliberately contrived as if, after rhythm. Not one of the triumphs bands. He also goes Owy owy
Barbara Ellen with Bill all those years of lthy, shrieking of dance/rock interbreeding. ooooh! Thats my favourite bit.
Drummond & Jimmy Cauty (KLF) catharsis his battered spirit Roger Morton Steven Wells
Queens of noise:
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Sutherland with Wayne
Hussey of The Mission at
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