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    IntelligentSpeculator.com: Risk vs.

    Reward, Part II

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    The Matrix: Risk/Reward and The Probability of Ruin
    (c)1998-2001, Teresa Lo, www.IntelligentSpeculator.com. All rights reserved.
    Risk and Money Management
    Managing one's risk and capital is undoubtedly the two most important, yet among
    novices the most ignored, tasks in establishing long term trading success. To drive
    this point home, we will introduce this topic by quoting some of the true masters,
    from the books The New Market Wizards and Market Wizards: Interviews With
    Top Traders.

    "[Michael Marcus - another top trader] taught me one other thing that is
    absolutely critical: You have to be willing to make mistakes regularly; there is
    nothing wrong with it. Michael taught me about making your best judgement, being
    wrong, making your next best judgement, being wrong, making your third best
    judgement, and then doubling your money." - Bruce Kovner
    "You should always have a worst case point. The only choice should be to get out
    quicker." - Richard Dennis
    "95 percent of my profits have come from 5 percent of my trades." - Richard
    Dennis
    "That cotton trade was almost the deal breaker for me. It was at that point that I
    said, 'Mr. Stupid, why risk everything on one trade? Why not make your life a
    pursuit of happiness rather than pain?'" - Paul Tudor Jones
    "If I have positions going against me, I get right out; if they are going for me, I
    keep them... Risk control is the most important thing in trading. If you have a
    losing position that is making you uncomfortable, the solution is very simple: Get
    out, because you can always get back in." - Paul Tudor Jones
    "Don't focus on making money; focus on protecting what you have." - Paul Tudor
    Jones
    "The elements of good trading are: (1) cutting losses, (2) cutting losses, and (3)
    cutting losses. If you can follow these three rules, you may have a chance." - Ed
    Seykota
    "Throughout my financial career, I have continually witnessed examples of other
    people that I have known being ruined by a failure to respect risk. If you don't take
    a hard look at risk, it will take you." - Larry Hite
    "Frankly, I don't see markets; I see risks, rewards, and money." - Larry Hite
    "My philosophy is that all stocks are bad. There are no good stocks unless they go
    up in price. If they go down instead, you have to cut your losses fast... Letting
    losses run is the most serious mistake made by most investors." - William O'Neil

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    "When I became a winner, I said, 'I figured it out, but if I'm wrong, I'm getting the
    hell out, because I want to save my money and go on to the next trade.'" - Marty
    Schwartz
    "Learn to take losses. The most important thing in making money is not letting your
    losses get out of hand." - Marty Schwartz
    "I realized that this chipping away approach was what I should be doing, not
    putting myself at a big risk, trying to collect a ton of dough." - Tony Saliba
    "I always define my risk, and I don't have to worry about it." - Tony Saliba
    "When I get hurt in the market, I get the hell out. It doesn't matter at all where the
    market is trading. I just get out, because I believe that once you're hurt in the
    market, your decisions are going to be far less objective than they are when you're
    doing well... If you stick around when the market is severely against you, sooner or
    later they are going to carry you out." - Randy McKay
    "I'll keep reducing my trading size as long as I'm losing... My money management
    techniques are extremely conservative. I never risk anything approaching the total
    amount of money in my account, let alone my total funds." - Randy McKay
    Quotations from Richard Dennis's partner William Eckhardt

    "The key to trading success is emotional discipline. If intelligence were the key,
    there would be a lot more people making money trading... I know this will sound
    like a cliché, but the single most important reason that people lose money in the
    financial markets is that they don't cut their losses short." - Victor Sperandeo
    "I think investment psychology is by far the more important element, followed by
    risk control, with the least important consideration being the question of where you
    buy and sell." - Tom Basso
    "Never fear making a mistake. If you do make a mistake, don't complicate the
    position by trying to hedge it - just get out." - Linda Bradford Raschke
    "I think it's generally a good idea that when you put on a trade, it should be so
    small that it seems almost a waste of your time. Always trade at a level that seems
    too small." - Mark Ritchie
    Bet Size and Market Mortality
    Imagine if you had a trading system that made correct market calls 99% of the
    time, and each trade that you made would double your bet if you won, or, if you
    lost, you would lose what you bet. One would think that your success in the
    markets was virtually guaranteed. But what if you bet 100% of your capital on
    every trade? If you did this, chances are that you would initially multiply your
    capital extremely quickly, but sooner or later you would be wiped out on the 1%
    probability that your trading system made a bad call.

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    Right is not Might


    As a slightly less extreme example, suppose that your trading system could still win
    99% of the time. Now for each win, you would receive one unit, say $1. For each
    loss, however, you would lose $110. You could probably trade this way for a long
    time and impress everybody by your consistent profitability. However, eventually a
    very large loss would wipe you out of the game. This situation is actually similar to
    many real life financial debacles. One example would be the collapse of the Lloyd's
    of London insurance syndicates. Another would be the wipeout of the hedge fund
    Long Term Capital Management. Both institutions had years of strong and steady
    profits, but were blown up by rare, but extremely large losses.
    Be Wrong Often and Make Money
    In contrast to these situations, many professional traders continually pull money out
    of the market, but they win on far fewer than 50% of their trades. This is sometimes
    difficult for novice traders to accept, for in our formative years at school, a
    performance of less than 50% meant failure. But we must discard such notions
    when we decide to speculate intelligently. The best traders have given up on the
    notion that they must be correct all of the time. Rather, they try to maximize their
    winnings when they are correct, and minimize their losses when they are wrong.
    In summary, "being correct on the market" and "building wealth" are not
    synonymous. In order to get from your market forecast to an increase in the value
    of your account, you must optimally employ your capital. That is what risk
    management is all about.
    "The Matrix" is Not Just a Sci-Fi Thriller
    Risk management is more important to long term success than market prediction,
    and fortunately, correct risk management procedures are far easier to develop than
    are successful market forecasting techniques. A beginning trader should use only a
    few simple technical indicators and concentrate on correct risk management, rather
    than engaging in a futile search for the elusive (actually non-existent) techniques
    that will predict the market with pinpoint accuracy.
    The Basics of Proper Risk Management
    There are two critical issues that every prospective trader should understand before
    speculating with real money: trade expectation, and the probability of ruin.
    Trade Expectation - Should One Even Bother to Trade?
    A trader's calculation of his trade expectation tells him whether or not he should
    even be trading. Trade expectation is also called the "average trade." For example,
    if you make 20 trades and make $10,000 net profit, then your average trade is $500.
    If several different traders all make $10,000 in 20 trades using completely different
    techniques and markets, the average trade will still be the same: $500. To calculate
    your future trade expectation, you need four values: the percentage of your trades
    that you win, the percentage of your trades that lose, the average amount of money
    you win for a typical winning trade, and the average amount of money that you lose
    on a losing trade.

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    The formula is:


    Average Trade = [(Win %) x (Average Win)] - [(Lose %) x (Average Loss)]
    An attentive reader might logically ask: "Don't you just need two values: the total
    amount won or lost, and the number of trades?" This is true if all you want is just to
    get the raw Trade Expectation value, but using the four-input formula allows for a
    greater self-analysis of your trading. You can change the win/loss amount or the
    percentage wins/losses and see how this would affect your results.
    If your average trade value is negative, you should expect to lose money in the
    future while trading, if the size of your wins and losses, and the percentage of
    winners you get, remain unchanged into the future. How accurate is it to
    extrapolate like this? It depends on the number of trades in your sample. For
    instance, if your sample only has five trades, it would be unrealistic to generate
    statistics on those five trades. Statistical theory states that for most types of
    phenomena, you need about 30 events in your sample to get reasonably accurate
    statistics. However, market movements are not what a statistician would call
    "normally distributed." This means that you need more than 30 trades to get an
    accurate idea of what will happen in the future. I would suggest at least one
    hundred trades, if not more. Therefore, if you have a trading method that enters and
    exits a market twice every week, you need about a year's worth of trading to get
    100 trades. You can get the data on your 100 trades by:
    a. Actual Trading - the best method
    b. Paper Trading - good but often overestimates the results
    c. Historical Trading System testing - not as good as paper trading for accuracy
    & realism
    One other problem with extrapolating trading results into the future is that market
    conditions might change. The obvious example is a stock trading method that has
    been designed during a bull market. Flaws with the system may become apparent
    only when the market trend changes to neutral or bearish. The only way to deal
    with this problem is to be honest with yourself when you are designing a trading
    method and not to be overcome with greed. Ask: "Has my experience with this
    trading method been taken through the many different types of market conditions
    that could happen in the future?"
    The Adventures of Trader J. Doe
    Assuming you have a decent sized sample of trades, you can use The Matrix
    Spreadsheet to analyze your results:
    Example: Typical novice trader. Wants to win on every trade. Takes small profits
    but lets losses get out of hand.
    Average Win=$1,000
    Average Loss=$2,000
    Needs to win at least 66% to just break even.

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    IntelligentSpeculator.com: Risk vs. Reward, Part II

    Probability of Ruin (POR) - Are You Feeling Lucky Today, Punk?


    Even if a trader has a stop loss on every position and limits the losses on every
    trade that goes against him, there is always a possibility that a series of losing
    trades could take him out of the game. Suppose Trader Doe decides to try his hand
    at futures and starts trading a single S&P 500 futures contract with $50,000 in
    capital. He will have to stop trading if his capital dwindles to $20,000 because his
    broker will tell him that he is close to the margin limit. If he limits his losses to
    $2,000 per trade, then there is always a possibility, though seemingly remote, that
    he could have a streak of losses, or a series of streaks, that would reduce his capital
    to the point where he would have to stop trading.
    Trader Doe needs to define the following values:
    1. The "starting point", that is, the beginning account size: $50,000
    2. The "failure point" where he must stop trading: $20,000
    3. The "success point", Trader Joe's goal: $100,000

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    He also needs to know his average win/loss size and percentage of wins. With these
    numbers he can use the formula programmed into The Matrix Spreadsheet to find
    out how realistic his ideas are by way of the Probability of Ruin calculations.
    His experience with his practice S&P trading method suggests that he will win
    45% of the time, with an average loss of $2,000 and an average win of $3,000. He
    looks at the correct row and column in the POR Matrix below and it gives a
    probability of 9% that he will hit "failure" before he hits "success." This is only in
    theory. In reality, most discretionary traders would begin to take on riskier trades
    out of desperation as their capital dwindled. Therefore, if Trader Doe gets sloppy
    after a string of bad trades, and slips to a 40% batting average, his risk of ruin rises
    dramatically to 62%. Changing the parameter values in other ways will change the
    probability values in the matrix. For example, making the "success" amount smaller
    will reduce the probability of ruin, because "success" has been made easier to
    achieve.

    Only the individual trader can decide whether the risk is worth the reward, given
    the odds of achieving his goal. A very conservative trader might wish to have a
    probability of ruin very close to 0%, whereas an aggressive trader might be able to
    sleep comfortably at night with a POR of 20% or more.

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    The POR calculation helps to illustrate why undercapitalized traders often fail.
    Take the typical wannabe Net stock trader who opens an online brokerage account
    with $5,000 and starts trading 200 shares of their favorite "dot.com" stock with a
    $5 stop loss. They are actually better off than most traders who would not even use
    a stop loss. A quick glance at the corresponding POR Matrix above shows that
    unless the trader's skills are exceptional, the risk of ruin is very high. In practice,
    ruin is virtually guaranteed. This is why risk and money management is everything
    in the world of trading.

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