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Wednesday, May 2, 1973
Fifth Series, No. 48

Vaisakha 12, 1895 (Saka)
Lok Sabha
Debates
(Seventh Session)
LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT

New Delhi
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CONTENTS
No. 4&— Wednesday, May 2 , i$rj$(Vaisahha 12,1895 (Saka)

, C olumns
Oral Answers to Questions :
•Starred Questions Nos. 921 to 924 and 916 to 929 . . . 1— 3*
Written Answers to Questions :
Starred Questions Nos. 925 and 930 to 940 . . 33—43
Unstarred Questions Nos. 8740 to 8751, 8753108792, 8794

to 8838, 8840 to 8855, 8858 to 8875, 8877 to 8882, 8884
to 8901,8903 to 8915,8917 to 8922, 8924 to 8930 and 8932
to 8 9 3 9 ..........................................................................43—208
Re. Question of Previlege . . . . . 208— 10

Papers laid on the T a b l e ................................................................. 210—ia
Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes
Sixteenth, Seventeenth and Eighteenth Reports . . 212— 13
Central Excises and Salt (Amendment)Bill— Introduced. 213— 14
Matters Under Rule 377
CO Reported looting of Jewels from Air India, Cargo Terminal
at Kennedy Air Port, New York. . . . 214
(ii) Non-availability offoodgrainsand Cement inGujarat 214— 16

Finance Bill, 1973 :—
Motion to C o n s i d e r .................................................................216
Shri R. S. P a n d e y ................................................................. 216—24
Dr. Kami S i n g h ................................................................. 225—39
Shri K. D. Malaviya.................................................................239—46
Shri Piloo M o d y ................................................................. 246—50
Shri Dinesh S i n g h ................................................................. 250—57
Shrimati Bhargavi Thankappan.............................................. *57—60
Shri Rajdeo S i n g h ................................................................. 260—67
Shri S. R. D a m a n i ................................................................. 268—72
Shrimati Sheila K a u i.................................................................272— 73
•The Sign -I- marked above the name of a Member indicates that the ques
tion was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member.
ii
COM/MNg
Dr. K a i l a s ........................................................................... 273— 78
Shri S ezh iy a n ..................................... • . . . *78 -9 1
Shri Darbara S i n g h ........................................................... 291— 97
Shri N. K. S a n g h i ........................................................... 297—305
Shri M. Satyanarayana R a o ................................................. 305—309
Shri D. N. T i w a r y ...........................................................309*-!1
Discussion Re. Appointment of Chief Justice o f India . . 311
Shri Madhu Limaye ............................................................. 3*4—33
Shri Narsingh Narain P a n d e y .......................................333—39
Shri Jagannath K a o .......................................................... 339~ 46
Shri A. K. Gopalan . . . . . . 346—51
Shri Vayalar R a v i ............................................................ 351—58
Shri H, N. M ukerjee........................................................... 358-68
Shri S. Mohan Kumaramangalam . . . . 368—93
Shri Piloo Mody. . . . . . . 394—401

LOK SABHA DEBATES
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LOK SABHA expansion of the company was not
allowed*’ Alto it a fact m this
particular case, the Government ot
'Wednesday, May 2, 1973/Vaisakho 12,
W st Bengal sent a detailed report to
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the Centre charging the Central G ov
ernment with encouraging expansion
The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the of this company in some other States
C lock. than West Bengal and the Chief Min
ister also sent a note m this connec
[Mr Speaker in the ChairJ tion in August 1972'* If so, what are
the reactions of the Government
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
Radio and Electronic Components SHRI K C PANT. Phillips <lnma)

Manufacturers of West Bengal not had an industrial licence for the pro
allowed to expand their Business duction of 60,000 radio receivers in
their factory at Calcutta In 1967.
*921 SHRI B K DASCHOW- their ongm al application was foi re-
DHURY* Will the Minister of ELEC gularisation o f expansion from 60,000
TRONICS be pleased to state to 1,00.000 sets The Department of
Defence Supplies, uhich was handling
(a) whether the radio and electro
this matter at that time, said that this
nic components manufacturers of West should be an application for expansion
Bengal ha\e not been permitted to
lather than regulansation So they
expand their business m West Bengal, applied for expansion to 1,75,000 êts.
whereas these manufacturers are be This was in April 1969 By the time
ing freely allowed to start new pro the matter was taken up by the L ic
jects oi to expand their business in ensing Committee, the policy was that
other States, and n certain sectors where the small
(b ) if so, the reasons therefor scale industry was also engaged, ex
pansion would be allowed if the party
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE was willing to export 75 pei cent of
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS its additional capacity This is the
(SHRI K C P A N T ). (a) No restric reason for the condition Later on, the
tion has been imposed on the manu W en Bengal Go\ernment wrote to the
facturers o f Radio & Electronic com Central Government when the com
ponents of West Bengal to expand pany was already producing over tw o
their business m that State lakh sets Their original licence, X
would remind the hon Member, is
(\s> Does not arise
only 60,000 sets They w ere already
SHRI B K. DASCHOWDHUR* • Is producing over two lakh sets, and the
it a fact that the Phillips Company recommendation was that they may be
wanted a licence from the Govern allowed to expand to three lakh set*
ment o f India for manufacturing near So. the company was approached and
ly 3,00,000 sets and the Go\ eminent they said th*~ w ill not agree to this
of India imposed certain conditions condition of 75 per cent export. Now.
that whatever be the number of sets actually the expansion to three lakh
over 80,000 manufactured by the com sets without due authority is an o b jec
pany, 75 per cent thereof should be tionable thing But because o f the
exported, and on this ground the conditions o f West Bengal because o f
«57 L S -î
Oral Answers MAY 2, 1073 Oral Answers 4
West Bengal Government's recom SHRI K. C. PANT; I do not know

mendation and so on, the discussion* about any change o f date. 1 do not
are going on with the company, and know what the hon. Member is really
a negotiating team ha« been set up by objecting to. In West Bengal, this
the Government to go and discuss with company has expanded production and
Phillips (India) Co., not only in regard without authorisation, they were al
to this particular licence but the lowed to go on producing. What is
general role that the company can the objection?
play here, the reduction in foreign
quota and so on and so forth. So, this SHRI M. S. SANJEEVI RAO: I want
negotiating team is taking up the to know from the hon. Minister whe
whole matter and other related mat ther he is aware o f the fact that be
ters with the company. cause o f the policies of the Govern
ment of India, Phillips Co., are not
only shutting down in West Bengal
SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY. but they are going to Singapore in a
May I know whether it is a fact that big way and they are intending to
Phillips Co., started a factory at Loni, completely wind up their organisation
near Poona, in 1958 wilh a capacity m India?
to manufacture 12,000 sets a year and
up to date, the branch at Loni has MR. SPEAKER: This does not arise
been allowed to expand up to 700,000 out o f this question. This is an in
sets without putting any restriction or formation you are giving to the Min
any condition that 75 per cent o f their ister. How is he cxpected to know it?
total production should be exported? Did they consult him about Singapore?
If so, why these two standards have Next question.
been maintained by the same com
pany one for the expansion in West SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Sir, one sup
Bengal and the other for expansion plementary. Just half a minutr*.
in Loni, in Maharashtra?
MR. SPEAKER: 1 have already
passed on to the* next question I am
SHRI K. C. PANT: There is no
sorry Now, Mr. Bibhuti Mishra.
question o f two standards. The Poona
company had a licenced capacity, ac
cording to my information, of 3.3 lakh
radio receivers This may be at a
later date than the one mentioned b.y vrm
the hon. Member. In 1968, they had
applied for a licence for expansion of
the capacity to 19 lakh sets. But. the * 9 2 2 - *rt farafa far«r :
licensing committee only agreed to
seven lakh radios. This was approved
and the letter of intent was issued
Their applications was prior to the ^ ^
other application o f expansion in the sftff far
Calcutta unit from 60,000 to 1,75,000
units. So, I do not think there are
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date was changed, though the monthly
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ember, 1970, but it was changed from
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7 Oral Answers MAY 2, 197S Oral Answers g
fr ir w fttf SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: I would

like to know from the hon. Minister
sp^trr f% tft ift f*nfa « rfT ^ i r o how many of the recommendations of
*jt «tft sfa fo ff ^ 5t o faft n^r the National Integration Council have
been accepted and how have they
*rrfV rrâr q tcr ff t't *tt*
bên implemented so far.
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SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: We
^ ? tt qStftro ^ srnft t fa 3$ ^ have answered the questions to this
w « y n gH q rt t ?ft *r v t effect before— starred as w ell as un-
arfap s*r 5r^nr *pt ^fcwtur rtarred— and we have placed on the
able of the House the recommenda
tftr 3H'w > r n v n ^ fa * t^ tions and the manner in which they
sftr ?T^t SPITTT qft TTT^r rrsFTt *T have been implemented. If the hon.
Member wishes, I can send a copy of
?TTêrtBr ^sr tf si i
it to him.
SHRI FATEHSINGHRAO GAEK- SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH May

W AD: May I know the main failure I know the steps taken by Government
of the National Integration Council to revive the National Integration
which prompted its winding up? Council and the assistance it has re
ceived from various elements in the
SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: There country including the political nartles
is no question of winding it up and which are opposing for the revival of
there is no question of it& failure aô the National Integration Council’
The Council was very useful; it gave SHRI RAM NIWAS *TIRDHA-
& set of directives on which the ad
Government is not awaie of any poli
ministration could work; it gave indi
tical party opposing the revival of th*
cations on the lines of which legal
National Integration Council It is
statutes could be amended. The> have
true that some parties did not parti
done very commendable work which
cipate initially m the meeting's of the
is providing guidance even now m
National Integration Council But w«
our work.
were not aware of any political parties
who were opposed to the revival of
SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN- Integra the National Integration Council
tion is concerned with linguistic pas
sions between different sections c f the SHRI SAMAR GUHA- Is it a f*ct
community. For this purpose I believe that the National Integration Council
if children speaking different langua as it exists to-day, in its last meet mu.
ges could be brought together in the formulated certain things ir. regard to
same school, it w ill make for integra the sons of the soil as also in regard
tion I want to know whether there to the rights of the minorities, parti
are any schools of that kind cularly, the linguistic minorities"
MR. SPEAKER: The question l? MR. SPEAKER: This is only about

about reviving the Council an'i not the revival Your question does not
about the schools. arise from the main question.
SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN: Integrator SHRI SAMAR GUHA: May I hum

is promoted by bringing together bly draw your kind attention that ju*t
children speaking different languages before I put my question, you a l l o w
ed two questions. A s regards imple
MR. SPEAKER: I agree it is so, but mentation the hon. Minister has re
it is also important that the question plied to that question. My question
should be relevant to the main ques flows from that. And so, you will
tion. I am sorry tor that. please allow me to put the question.
9 Qrdi Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1805 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10
MR. SPEAKER: I am sorry. This was any discrepancy between the

does not arise from the main question. charges communicated to the Ministry
ol Home Affairs by the Chief Minister
SHRI SAMAR GUHA: This is a of Goa, Daman and Diu an'i the
sense o f discretion. (Interruptions). charges as stated in the show cause
notice given to the Director of Health
MR. SPEAKER: The question is Services, Goa, Dr. Wag. I do not know
with regard to reviving the National why my question was truncated. The
Integration Council. You are dis minister said that in October 1970
obeying me, you should not expect charges were served on the Director
that I shall yield because you go on o f Health Services, Goa. On 7ih July.
Integration Council, oou are dis- 1972 the enquiring authority submitted
You w ill please sit down. I am so its report and on 25th Septemebr 1972
sorry. the Central Vigilance Commission
tendered its advice on the findings o f
Inquiry into charges against Director the inquiring authority to the Union
o f Health Services. Goa Territory Government. We are now
m May 1973. The minister said that
*923. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM K A - a final decision is expected to be taken
soon. The Director of Health Services.
KODKAR: Will the Minister of
Dr. Wag, was very recently honoured
HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to refer
to the reply given to Unstarred Ques ttith th« 1972 award by the All India
tion No. 1826 on 7th August, 1970 re Medical Association in Calcutta for
garding the corrupt practices in the rendering best service in the cause of
purchase o f medicines for Government public health in the country. This
Hospitals in Goa and state: Director was suspended in 1970 on the
pretext oI something here and some
(a) whether any inquiry was ins thing there out o f the vindictiveness—
p o h t i r a l and personal— of the Chief
tituted against the Director of Health
Services, Goa; and Minister of Goa, Daman and Diu He
was kept under suspension.
fb) if so, when and with what
result? MR SPEAKER; This is not an oc-
racion to make a speech. Put your
question.
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKOD-
fSHRI K C P A N T ): (a) and (b ). KAR* May I know from the hom.
Yes, Sir An enquiry was instituted Minister whPther the enquiry has pro
bv the Government of Goa. Daman ved the charges as baseless’ May I
and Diu against their Director ol know from the hon Minister what
Health Services. The articles of serious action has been taken, or is
charges were served on the officer on being taken, or is proposed to be taken
the 17th October, J970. The inquiring against the person of the Chief Minis
pjthority submitted its report on 7th ter who kept the Director of Health
July, 1972 and the Central Vigilance Services under suspension for many
Commission tendered its advice on months or two years and put him to
the findings o f the inquiring authority mental torture’ What serious action
to the Union Territory Government on has been taken against the person w ho
the 25th Septemebr, 1972. A final de made the Director of Health Services
rision is expected to be taken soon by suffer for no fault o f his’
the Government o f Goa, Daman and
Diu. SHRI K. C. PANT: First o f all, 1
can assure m v hon. friend that the
SHRI PURUSHOTTAM K AK O D - question which has come to us is not
KAR: M y question was whether there with regard to any discrepancy with
II Oral Answers MAY 2, 1978 Oral Antwers 12
regard to the charges. The question SHRI BHAGW AT JH A ASSAD:

is “ whether any inquiry was instituted What is wrong with it?
against.. . .and, if so, when and with
what result?” W e have given the SHRI PXLOO MODY: Double stand
answer to that question. ards.
MR. SPEAKER: I would accept the

The second question is as to the time suggestion o f Shri Viswanathan. But,
taken. A ll I can tell him is that we then, in future he will have no right
have taken up this matter with the to refer to any Chief Minister like
Government of Goa, Daman and Diu that.
and with the Lt. Governor to expedite
a decision in the matter. A message SHRI K. S. CHAVDA: W e are
dated 27th April, 1973 has been receiv pointing out that reference to the
ed by us that the Government o f Goa person o f the Chief Minister should
has scrutinised this matter at various not be a llo w e d ....
levels and has submitted the whole
matter to the disciplinary authority MR. SPEAKER: You are so happy
on 17th April 1973 and that a final when Shri Bansi Lai’s name is men
decision is expected shortly. This is tioned and unhappy when the name
the basis on which 1 have given the of somebody else is mentioned.
main reply that the final decision can There should be uniform standards
be expected shortly. We are also I would request Shri Kakodkar als)
asking them to take a decision quickly not to bring in the Chief Minister.
in the matter.
SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Sir, I rise
So far as the finding of the V igi on a point o f order.
lance Commission goes, the advice
has been tendered by it on the basis
MR. SPEAKER: No point o f order
o f the finding of the enquiring autho
during the question hour.
rity to the Government of Goa,
Daman and Diu and they will be
taking a decision. I would not like to SHRI SAMAR GUHA: It is a point
comment on it at this stage, e x c e p t of clarification. I quite agree with
to say that they have advised the your observation that so far as State
issue of only a caution and that on matters are concerned there should
be no reference here. But there are
this basis and on the consideration of
certain subjects which are concur
the appeal made by the doctor r e g a r d
rent where Parliament has the right
ing his suspension order, that ordtr
to make reference. Therefore, your
was revoked by the President in
observation should be related to State
October.
subjects and not concurrent subjects
SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKOD-

MR. SPEAKER: I know the pro
K AR: This is not the only case.
per procedure.
There are a number of cases, num
berless cases, where out of vindic
tiveness, political and personal, of SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKOD
the person of the Chief Minister, posts K A R : Whether the Chief Minister's
have been abolished and Government name should be mentioned or not,
employees have been removed from Goa, Daman and Diu is a union
posts on the pretext___ territory-----
SHRI G. VISW ANATHAN: When MR. SPEAKER: It w ill be much

there is an Assembly in Goa, why better if you do not bring in the
should these matters be brought name o f the Chief Minister. You just
here? say, Government.
13 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14
SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAK OD - SHRI K. C. PANT: The question is

K A R : I am not bringing in the name somewhat hypothetical. In any case,
o f the Chief Minister. Goa, Daman action to be taken w ill be decided by
and Diu is not a State like other the Lt. Governor in consultation with
States. It is a union territory under the Chief Minister and, I would hope,
the Centre. The Government of India, the action taken will be in commen
the Home Ministry, has every right surate with the findings o f the
to discuss every point. A ll such oases inquiring authority and will bear in
are out o f vindictiveness, political and mind the advice given by the C.V.C.
personal. The posts are abolished,
the officers are sent away over night Trading by Tyre Manufacturers in
•on the pretext that there are no posts Products not Manufactured by them
which were abolished earlier. There
is uncertainty in the union territory *924. . SHRI B R. SHUKLA: WiU
o f Goa, Daman and Diu for employees the Minister o f INDUSTRIAL DEVE
and officers . . . LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
MR. SPEAKER: You are making a
regular speech. (a) whether the tyre manufactur
ers are also trading in products
other than those manufactured by
SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAK OD - them;
K AR: 1 would like to know from the
hon Minister what serious action has (b ) if so, whether it is in accord
been taken or is proposed to be ance with the conditions of licence
taken so that this uncertainty in the issued to them;
union territory of Goa, Daman and
Diu is not there and such cases are (c) whether the proceeds from
not repeated and are not encouraged trading in products not manufactured
m future. by these tyre companies are being
repatriated out of India m part or
full; and
SHRI K. C. PANT- As to the com
petence of the Goa Government, 1 (d) if so, the extent thereof during
would say, whenever irregularities the last three years?
com e to notice, as the appointing
authority, the Goa Government is THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
competent, to take appropriate action. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DE
Therefore, it is their responsibility VELOPMENT (SHRI PRANAB
How they do it is also upto them. KUMAR MUKHERJEE): (a) to (d ).
But if my hon friend says, they do A statement is laid on the Table of
not do it properly, the people o f Goa the House.
watch and take note o f it.
STATEMENT
(a) an
SHRI P. GANGADEB: May I ces issued to Tyre Manufacturers are
know from the hon. Minister whether for the manufacture of specific items
the Government will consider any and trading activities by these firms
steps to safeguard a civil servant are not covered by any o f the condi-
from vindictive action by higher tions attached to the industrial licen-
authorities if he is cleared o f any ces issued to them. It is a fact that
charges of mal-practices after con- foreign controlled tyre and tube
ducting an independent inquiry manufacturing firms, sell through
and, if not, what measures have been their dealers, automobile accessories
contemplated to rectifly this depart- etc., neither manufactured by these
mental lacuna in the administration? companies themselves nor manufac-
15 Oral Answers M AY 2, 1973 Oral Answers 16
tured with technical know -how pro ted by the tyre companies in connec
vided by them to other companies. tion with accessories.
(c ) and (d). The proceeds from SHRI MANORANJAN HAZRA: May

trading in products not manufactur I know from the hon. Minister whe
ed by these tyre companies are be ther he is aware of the performance
ing repatriated out of India by these made by the Firestone Company and
companies but the extent o f such if so, whether any action has been
remittances in respect o f these trans taken against them.
actions is not separately available.
MR. SPEAKER* This is a specific
SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: May I question about a company, whereas
know from the hon. Minister whether the main question is general m nature.
such trading is entirely a free enter You are asking about one particular
prise or }S it controlled m any way by company. 1 have no objection, if he
any governmental action or regula has got the information.
tion?
SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER-
SHRI PP - .NAB KUMAR MUKHER- JEE: I have no specific .nformation.
JEE; In t' ^ statement it has already
been poin ed out that it is found that SHRI PILOO MODY I would like
certain tyre manufacturing companies to know Jtrom the Minister whether
are traamg with articles wh h are not he u> aware of any law, regulation,
covered by the licences. A keady a rule or act of Government which pr'j-
complaint has been lodged under Sec hibits these companies from trading
tion 10A(1) of the MRTP Act. The in products which they do not manu
investigation is going o n and, after facture.
getting the report from the Director
o f Investigation, action w ill be taken THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
SHRI B. R SHUKLA May I know TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA-
how long this trading in such acces MANIAM) I a p e e there is no li-
sories by the manufacturers who have rovrr jeqîred for trading m acces
not been given any licence for such sories or any other jrljcle-* But u
trading is going on and whether, m - they indulge in restrictive trade prac
spite of the knowledge of such tred- tices—and this is the allegation made
ing in such aceess< nes Government agaiust them, then the MRTP Act
has chosen not to take any action in comes into operation This is under
this behalf? investigation now.
SHRI K D. M ALAVIYA In view

SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- of the fact that there are obviou9
JEE- It is not a fact that Government malpractices or irregularities com
has chosen not to take any action to mitted m such cases can the Govern
stop it. As I have alreadj pointed ment not find out some method ot
out, the MRTP Commission is con-»i- short-circuiting the lot>g process of
acring the case. The Finance Minis inquiry, leaving cases undecided for
try is also considering the possibility months and months or even years and
of plugging the loopholes in r e m i t years?
tances m connection with the trading
activities. So far as this Ministry u SHRI C SUBRAMANIAM: We have
concerned, they received a complaint to follow the procedures in this case.
from the All India Motor U n ion As I have already stated, for the
Congress in 1972 and as soon as th« purpose of trading, no licence is re
complaint was received, due measures quired. But in the process o f trading
have been taken. It is very difficult if there are malpractices and restric
to identify the actual amount remit tive trade practices, then they come
17 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Oral Ansue,s iS
under tbe Act This being a foreign Scheduled Castes and Scheduled
company, perhaps the activities co^ld Tribes The notification of this list
be further regulated when we pass has been cancelled The Selects £
the Foreign Exchange Regulations Board will now prepare a fresh list
Bill m accordance with the instructions
of the Government in this regard
SHRI K D MALAVIYA Can Gov
ernment not find out some ready
method to put a stop to these mal* sft wfK w r wnsr
practices7 What is it that prevents
# ‘3TFRT s*lpTT fV
the Government from doing this’ Wh>
are thc^ leaving it to the inevitability
ot g*> lualntss of the protege of 1*1 * 9 afnra sftr fcraft infa *r
quiry’
ft 1330
SHRI C SUBRAMANIAM First of 118 w r e fo r a ft fasfr srrfa %•
all we should establish the irregu
fffnpr ft 7 x ?r
larity before w e take any «uch step
y yfo rr sfWrn: % «rar ?rer
SHRI K D MALAVIYA There are
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obvious irregularities
VT fW ft %?[T
MR SPEAKER Next Question
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Promotion of persons belonging to w r ft ?
Scheduled Castes and Scheduled
Trlbts to posts o f Inspectors In
Delhi Police
ftw V * *** WCTOT ift
<*26 SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS **r q fe fs p- fr finfr M
Tw s tv r :
be pleased to state fa**? fw
(a) whether a list of about 50 Si.b srrrr** ftitz z *r fin fogre
Inspectors to be promoted to the posts fw v r <V*rr
o f Inspectors in Delhi Police has been
recently prepared, t*r aFt*W*WT ft f a VTfqprl
^rr Wr
(b) whether this list does not con
tain any persona belonging to Sche v m % an^r ^
duled Castes and Scheduled Tribe* fan w ^ #^*rsr
and
wm ft*fr»-
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THE MINISTER OF STATE IN V?FV ft TTOt t?^ft ftnrr JTW«n I
THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
(SHRI K C PANT) (a) A list of
46 Sub-Inspectors for promotion to
Inspectors was notified on 12th Janu
ary 1973 by the Inspector General of
TffVr
Police, Delhi ?t YfiPter % fsjtr fq ^ f
(b) Yes, Sir snfoft % *?r tot

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ernment regarding reservations for ^t *RTT VTTOT I ?
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Cement Factories In Maharashtra party has applied for a cement fac

tory at Cbanaka?
*027. SHRI J. G KADAM
SHRI SHANKERRAO
SAVANT THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
Will the Minister o f INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA-
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND MANIAM) Generally, the details of
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state pending applications are not given
(a) bow many cement factories are

ther«i in Maharadhtra in the public fan# w
and the private sector and what is
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the capacity ot each one 01 them,
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ernment have represented to the Cen
tral Government for starting some fa* Tfi t %t\r ^fap it
m oie cement factories Jn that Stjte jfc *?fr £ Wfarr
and
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( 0 if so the proposed location anfi
the eapucitv thereof and the action irrrw r % > vfin f ?ft iftx&r %
proposed to be taken by the Central fa?puT
Government on their representation*’
*TT ST jTT 7f,
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE t ?
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE
LOPMENT (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR
MUKHERJEE) (a) There is one ce SHRI C SUBRAMANIAM This
ment factor} tit ( handa m Maharash doe^ not relate to distribution at all.
tra in the private sector with a caps- This relates to number o f factories
city of 4 0 lakh tonnes per annum m Maharashtra
(b ) and tct No Sir However an

application dated 19th April 1973 has *rs ftnw y rngrfi
been received from a private part\
m sftr
for setting up a cement plant
Chanaka (Maharashtra) for a capacitv ?rm *tt f^rrnJT ir fe w e r
o f 6 0 lakh tonnes per anftum wnrt
SHRI J G KADAM As there is

availability of raw-material at Chana warn
ka m Maharashtra w ill Government f f^r^JT
be kind enough to establish a cement
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factory in the public sector over
there?
SHRI DHAMANKAR Is there any
proposal to start a cement factory m
JEE At present th<*rc is no ûch
the cooperative sector over there?
proposal t) establish a cement factory
In public sector in Maharashtra
SHRI SHANKERRAO SAVANT JEE There is no such proposal for
May I know whether any private the present
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29 Or
alAnswer* VA
ISAKHA 12
, 1885(SAKA
) O
ral Answer
s
SHR I K.S. CHAVDA : Heisevad

ing
f
ft TORTi
tJf T
fo WM^
ipca
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rf?
T
a rep
ly. Iti s men
tionedinthe sta
te
ment that Ha r
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ivato
rs had 9T
tftI
ff % JTW
fry*
f TO
T |T®
been bea
tenbythe Gu jjars
,andyet no W
^T?
act
ion has beentaken.
«f
t ^ fl
rrsr
vt t f
farar: t tk
MR
. SPEAKER:O rde
r,orde
r. I am ?t
to% a
fr
rq
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it *r§ *
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tr
no
t goingtol
low any deba
teonthi
s.
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<T*f
tcT «
ltIT#f
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TOTT TO
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E
conomic Deve
lopmen tofTriba
lAreas
w?w stpt M
faro o
f Jhargramin M idnapo
re (Wes
t
X
ftfS T%
rr.%nm ?T^
tf
sTT
tI Benga
l)
+
T
it 5
R 'nzo SHR
I R N BARMAN
w«
fr 7^% f^FTTO tot t SHR
I A K M ISHAQUE
^ %
rrf
t «
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ft
,
s
ro?
t ^
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t f
ts
r3r
rt^
t
*TR*
rfaTTHT 3
TTT^
r& ^ W
ill the Min
iste
rof PLANN
ING be
p
leasedtos tat
e
*
TfTPT
^ t
rap n TO
T
^ t 7 5
ffm 3
TTT
3T TO T
PT5
f
t
(a) whe
ther the t ribal areas of
^ f
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emvT s
rsr
r? *3^% Jhargram m M idnapore Dis
tric
t(We st
to? TO
t f
en| ?
5 Bengal)
,a re amongst the most back

ward area
s*in the countrv. and
s
rPF
rr w ^
ttf f
rr *n
3Rs
r*rtot
yr. *£
sr *3
ft*?
tto f cHr
irt
fk
*r
$ wn fa$fr
3R> %*mmir (b) i f so wha t measu
resa re being
taken bythe Governmentforeconom i
c
s
far vr*n
ft 3
rr*
r? sw deve
lopmento f those a
reas?
THE MINISTER OF S T A T E IN THE naturally for concessional fljaapAe end
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI also for 10 p e r ce n ts u b sid y . '
MOHAN PH AJtIA); C«) and (b>. A
.statement is laid an the Table of the SHRI ft. N. BARMAN: M ty I know
House. whether it is a fact that mere decla
ration o f Central subsidy is not enough
S tatement to attract industrialists in those areas
and, if so, what other steps are under
Jhargram area in Midanapore Dis
consideration for the development of
trict has been recognised as a back those areas?
ward area in the State by the State
Government. SHRI MOHAN DIIARIA: The ques
tion is related to Jhargram area. The
A specific allocation of Rs. 10 lakhs State Government has created a Jhar
has been made by the State Govern gram Development Board. Similarly, a
ment in the Annual Plan for 1973-74, cell has been created at the State level
which is for supplementing the de and in order to develop those areas
velopment activities taken u p with these agencies are created.
allocations from sectoral outlays from
the normal plan and non-clan pro SHRI SAKTI KUMAR SARKAR; In
grammes of different departments. A view of the answer of the hon. Minis
Cell has also been set up known as ter, may I ask whether, in rospect of
Jhargram Affairs Branch of the State subsidies and incentives to the back
Development and Planning Depart ward areas he has in mind any idea
ment under the charge o f a Cabinet to sponsor any Central schemes for
Minister. Besides this Cell, there is a these backward areas, particularly the
Jhargram Development Board for co tribal areas?
ordinating the execution of plans for
SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: We shall
development of this region.
have to take an integrated approach
Jhargram i- also likelv to benefit to all these problems. As we have in
from the Central schemes of drought dicated m the fifth Plan approacn
prone a eas as well as from conces document, in orêr to give proper re
sional finance from financial institu lief to these backward areas, several
tions and Central subsidy of 10 per steps are being contemplated.
cent on the fixed capital investment by
industries, available to identified back SHRI SAMAR GUHA: It is not a
ward districts. fact that about 80 to 90 per cent of
the tribal people in Jhargram have
Besides the Minimum Needs pro neither land nor homesteads. In re
gramme to be taken up in the Fifth gard to have economic development, I
Plan will also help in developing this want to know first, whether the Gov
area. ernment Is going to assure them at
least homesteads first, and then
SHRI R. N. BARMAN: May I know whether they could make available for
whether Government have in mind them the surplus land that may be
the extension of the Central subsidy available and, if so, mav I know the
scheme to other backward areas of steps taken by the Government?
West Bengal, as the scheme is going
to be extended to Jhargram, as stated SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: The Cen
by the hon. Minister? If so. which are tral Government has made it very
those places? clear that all those who are having
no land in the rural areas will be given
SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: The sub homesteads at the cost of the Central
sidy scheme has already been extend Government. Naturally, It will be
ed to the Jhargram area as the West applied to this area. Regarding the
Bengal Government has indentifled other subject. I have not got the
this area as industrially backward figures with me.
33 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 34
WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUES '!_"€f ;JSfT� a'4'T �Tfqcfi fi:f�TtT
TIONS
Industrial Units in U.P. during Fifth
1t �T� i:i�r
( 9,TT � f.fcf� f�,) :
Plan
(<li) �'n: (�) �n: � B"��<f
� 00 t� 10ffi, 1973
*925. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will + "fi��f<ll<i " ;,;.� �____...
� m
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE <t> '1111-mT gID �T l
VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND i B"Gf� � 1:t f<fim
�m � t€£R��;;@�
(a) whether a number of industrial � � ll � lTlTI � l f�
unit� are likely to be established in lf;.:r � m<fil<: � �� 'i:RT t
Uttar Pradesh during the Fifth Plan;
wren:, 1 7 lfR, 1973 "1p1 �f-1T
(b) if so, what are those units; and � � fcf�i_r: �ra i\" �1'11
(c) the total financial aid likely to � �llR l\" �'P �1i � trt: �
be given to the Uttar Pradesh Gov f<fi G'm t � � "<:Tlf �
llTcf
ernment for establishing these units in <fiT m�, 1973 cfT -.::T<f cr,r
;:;r,- 1 6, 1 1
the public sector?
m ia �w��wm;
THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL � li<f � "ffittm t:{T<fT lT!{T I �
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA
� t�TU<{ ;::1 �1� �r
NIAM): ('a) and (b). The programmes lfc'f<fi � '!ITT'fm iit B:fT<fil-.:: f<fi<IT f<fi
t
0 "'
for large and medium industries to be �� <fiT!ITT <:Tlf cr!'TZcf 'PT �T "1pT I
established during the Fifth Plan in
the various States including Uttar � <fit '!ITcf 1 8 �, 1973 ep'°'(
Pradesh have not yet been finalised. � � fc!i<IT lTlTI ;:;r) sif� ll
( c) Does not arise. � it" .=fr� fmr � w fum lTlTI
fl'� Sl'i � i �°i.fT fiiil-l i �T I 'ef� ;'\" � "<::� trf�

�"'� �� ii c,:� �f�Tf �cf1'i 1'i1
� mu 302 t wft;, �'P �-.::m
� f<fi<n �T �Tlfr � f�
fa{� iifl{fi{ i:t � fo:n iiff;{l
<fi-.:: fuQ; � I �-�� <fiT ;jfT �T
* 93o 9-lr r
ij ,, q "iifi� �cf'T<f �
<lirr �� +riifr � � � � ru
rfi
Participation by Farmers in Program
(qi) oflfT � <fit � �cf, mes Broadcast under Rural Section
10 m, 1973 i ·�crr;:r' i am! Farm-Home of A.I.R., Delhi
�lio �,. {f<: �<filf.rr<f �B" � �
� f� lTlTI i f<fi lf� m *931. SHRI B. S. BHAURA: Will the
it; m:.:rr
"' m t �. � i\" �IBT
Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state:
if; � �ITT'� � �
{f<: �'P
(a) how many farmers were invited
� � l:\' � fum lfi:n, f� to participate in the various pro
qn:urr� � � €£1' trt:;
rn
grammes broadcast under the Rural
Section and Farm-Home of A.LR.,
Delhi during 1972;
(�) lfR �, a-r � {f<: �n: (b) their number State-wise, viz.,
tft 'fll7" .efrt/?r,ln !? Haryana. U:P. and DelbJ and tile
557 LS-2
35 Written Answer* MAY 2, 1979 W n tm A w m a
special qualifications o f tine partici

(a ) Tfe* Shankaracharya o f Puri Is
pants, and reported to have spoken in favour o f
'Chaturvarnya* at Kolhapur on the
(c) what action Government pro 18th March, 1973.
pose to take to improve the standard
o f Rural programmes of Delhi Station9 (b) There was a protest demonstra
tion at Kolhapur on the occasion
1HE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE against Shankaracharya’g advocacy of
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND ‘Chaturvarnya.’
BROADCASTING (SHRI I K GUJ-
RAL) (a) 305 (c) The Maharashtra Government
are examining the Shankaracharya’s
(b) (1) Haryana 104 speech to decide what legal action can
(n ) U P 159 be taken In the Untouchability
(Offences) Amendment and Miscel
(m ) Delhi 42 laneous Provision Bill, 1972 a specific
provision has been proposed making it
Paiticipants in the programme in an offence to iustify the practioe of
clude, besides Krishi Pandits, progres untouchability on historical, philoso
sive farmers and other cultivators phical or religious grounds The Bill is
The only qualification lor the farmers under the consideration o f a Joint
is that they should be actual cultiva Committee
tors
(c) The programmes are already Compulsory Science Education upto
witkly appreciated but efforts are School Level Recommended by a Group
continuously made to improve their o f the National Committee on Science
quality iurther fa's involving more and and Technology
more fa’ mers and making the pro
grammes mcreasingl-y field-based ■*H3 SHRI G Y KRISHNAN Will
the Minister of SCIENCF AND
All< ged Propagation of Caste System
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state
by Shankaracharya o f Pun
*9 >2 SHRI M KATHAMUTHU (a) whethei a group of the National

Committee on Science and Itchriology
PROF MADHU DANDAVATE has recommtnded that science educa
Will tht Minister of HOME tion should be made compulsory upto
AFFAIRS be pleased to state the school level, and
(a) whether Jagedguru Shankara (b) if so other recommendations

charya of Pun has been openlv cham made by National Comm ttee on
pioning tht in*-Titu4ion ot caste with Science and Techonology and the re
all it, ncQua ties and miustices action of Government thereon >
THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
( V ) w h e t h e r s u c h oD en c h a m p i o n i n g DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
o f caste sv^tem is being resented by TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA-
a laige s e c t io n of the p e o p l e and MANIAM) (a) Yes Sir
(c) if so the steps Government (b) The Panel on Education and

have taken to discourage propagation Scientific Research has made a number
of caste and social discrimination of recommendations aimed at bringing
based on caste system’ about structural changes in existing
programmes and institutions so as to
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE make education more purposeful and
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND available to a larger body of students
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON particularly m the rural areas These
NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): includes development of regional in-
Wri·tten Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 38
entation "facilit-ies, .augmentation 'laws and other measures connected

o facilities for testing and analysis, with land reforms.
establishment of regional science and
Cb) Yes, Sir.
technology libraries eq uippt:(i with
~CDmentation facilities, evolving a (c) The national guidelines based
- itaOle mechanism for funding basic on the conclusions of Chief Ministers'
arch in 'universities. I.I.Ts, and Conference held in July. 1972 con-
-miJ.ar institutions, etc. The NCST template the setting up of non-official
:in consider these -recommendations bodies at appropriate levels for effec-
:!.fore Government takes a decision on tive implementation of land reforms.
1.. An the States Governments have been
advised accordingly,
Beonelit to 'People Living' below pover-
Line from Land Reforms Pro- if; ~~l1)~T ~tt
;l;ftnT~
, _gramme ~Cf(,i?lfffi ~;nf;Y7.fT~)
*934. SHRI D, K. PANDA: Will the qW{ ~T
-ster of PLANNING be pleased to
e: * 9 3 5. lSf1'11C'fT ~nfvn ?ilfT+(:
(a) fo what ext-ent those who are ,fIn '1.~ .ra-r If€'; ""CiTif 'fir ~qT 'fi~'<T
l.Y proverty line in the rural areas f'fi
'i\'iIl.. be benefited by the revised land
l'::eiling laws and other measures con- ('fi) \3'm 5f~~1 <i' 3;F1'l1TST m
n.ecled with land reforms;
if;fcfr~ f\iff-fT ff q.m;:r <f; f<'Tt:; f'fi(for
(b) whether it is in the knowledge ~CR:fCfT ~<n:rT U 'Sn~ ~ ~
f Guvernment that there is a con-
attempt by' vested interests on
g-t:; ~ ;
land to defeat and sabotage the land ( 19 ) ';j'1 ?j U fcf;~ 5fT~ G(:fr
reform measures; and
lR fcr<m: f'fi'IT \ifT ~ ~ am fCf1CRT
c) if so, the measures taken by
ernrnent to enlist the active co-
~) >;J fcfl '11I " 'fi'( f~ li1IT ~; :I.1n:
(J ration of the rural poor in defeat- ( rr ) \jrf ~'+1T 5fT"t.n G(:fT lR 'fig
g such sabotage attempts
lnl.ere~ts?
by vested
Ci'fi :I.1fCf;:+f~q « fq~n: if;'( f<'T<n %TQ;lTT?
E MINISTER OF STATE IN THE '!~;i:;rr (lSfT \3'+I'T ~~ «"tf~fi):

STRY OF PLANNING (SHRI (9)') :I.1n: (lg) ~ ~T W;-., ~ W1
OHAN DHARIA): Ca) The ceiling lR W l]ir fcfcRuT If ~T~ ~ I
aw of some States have recently been
re' d and in other States the laws ( -r) : 3 1- 3- 19 7 3 Cf'fi5fT(Cf ~'+1T
in the process of being amended
in the light of the national guidelines
m~G:" G(:fr ~T 1 4- 8- 1 9 7 3 CfGfi
(In. ceiling on agricultural holdings. ~T~ ~r crQ- If \ift'f ~T 'I1'(;r
Hence it will be too early to say to ~r ~ qr1't l]ir m'iTcfi U ~f'iTcfi
rhat extent those who are' below the
p erty line in the rural areas will bt
l1Tl1<1T If q:!1T" f;fiWCf 'fiB ~ -sn:wr
benefited by t',1e revised land ceiling f'fli't \ifT '(% ~ I
f~llT
f-;reT 5f~Cf ~~ fCf"rf,(TC<'R (~~- ~Ci qi
~ ~1wcr ~ 9>':rhTTjU;:nr ~- ( :I.1'+1T fCf'ifl'(
(28-4-73 acIi') ''fif(T U '~~ ~Rr ~)
---------- ~ ~)
~1T):sr 5 '2 8 -196 64 70 198
~'I<1T~ 561 ,23'9 , 51· 143 128
39 Oral Answers APRIL 25, 1973 Oral Answers 4°
Use of Hindi Equivalents in Roman No objections to the above instruc-
Script for Names of Ministries aJld tions of Ist February. 1973 have been
Departments received.
*936. SHRI SEZHIYAN: Smugglers, spies Active on Punjab-
SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN: Pak Border
W1ll the Minister of HOME *937. SHRI VARKEY GEORGE:
AFFAIRS be pleased to state: SHRI M. RAM GOP AL
(a) whether ·Government have issu- REDDY:
ed instructions to the various Minis- Will the Minister of HOME
tries and Departments and the Public AFFAIRS be pleased to state:
Sector undertakings on the use of (a ) whether any steps have been
Hindi equivalents in Roman scripts taken by Government against the
for the names of the Ministries and smugglers and spies active on Punjab-
Departmen ts; Pakistan border; and
(b) if so, the particulars of such in- (b) if so, the ztst thereof?
structions; and
(c) whether any objections were MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
raised for such use of Hindi equiva- IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PER·
lents to Roman scripts? SONNEL (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIR·
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DHA): (a) and (b). Utmost vigilance
Is being maintained by all concerned
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
agencies in this behalf and appropriate
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON-
NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): action under the penal and preventive
provisions of law is also being taken
(a) to (c). The Eighty-Nineth Amend-
against all persons known or suspect.
ment to the Government of India (Allo-
ed to be indulging in espiona.ge and
cation of Business) Rules, 1961 which
replaced the First Schedule to the smuggling activities.
Rules was notified on 17th June. 1971.
It described the names of the Minis- Policy of Expansion of Industries
tries/Departments etc., in English with under Larger Houses
their Hindi equivalents in Roman
script in brackets. Thus the Minis- *938. SHRI C: K. CHANDRAPPAN:
try of External Affairs was described Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
as: Ministry of External Affair" DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
(Videsh Mantralaya). Existing in- TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
structions for the description of names (a) whether Government propose to
of Ministries/Departments etc., on declare a new policy regarding the
letter heads were accordingly modifi- permissibility of expansion of indus-
ed on 1st February, 1973 SO as to con- tries under the control of larger
form to the description given in the
houses;
First Schedule to the Government of
India (Allocation of Business) Rules, (b) if so, the outlines of the propo-
19tH. The effect of the instructions in • sal; and
nutshell is that in letter heads. the
(c) the reasons for adopting this
Hindi names of the Ministries/Depart-
new approach for the larger houses?
ments will be given first followed by
their English equivalents with Hindi
version in Roman script within brac-
kets. Thus the letter head of the
TECHNOLOGY (SHRJ C. SUBRA·
Ministry of External Affairs will be
MANIAM): (a) to Cc). The policy of
printed as under: Government with regard to participa-
fq~'!lT +f~lf tion of large industrial houses in in-
Ministry of External Affairs dustrial development has been ex-
(Videsh Mantralya) plained in a Press Note dated 2nd
4I Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 4~
February, 1973, which clarified Gov- The General Manager. Northern

ernment's decisions on industrial Railway has sent a reply to the Narnak
policy, Copies of the press Note have Udyog Sangh, Phalodi, stating that the
been laid on the Table of the House loading of salt at Phalodi had im-
in reply to Unstarred Question No. 281 proved during the year 1972-73 as com-
answered on 21st February, 1973. pared to the loading of salt during
the year 1971-72. The Sangh had also
been apprised of the difficulties ex-
Memorandum from Namak Udyog perienced by the Railways, owing to
Sangh, Phalodi which further improvement in loading
performance despite efforts had not
*939. SHRIMATI KRISHNA been possible.
KUMARI OF JODHPUR: Will the
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- The proposal far linking of Phalodi
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- with Kolayatji by rail was not found
justified by the Railways.
LOGY be pleased to state:
(a) whether Government have re- As regards the removal of ban im-
ceived any memorandum from the posed on loading of salt from stations
Narnak Udyog Sangh, Phalodi recent- of Bikaner Division. The Railways
ly; informed the Namak Udvoz Sangh
that loading of salt had been restrict-
(b) if so, the main demands listed ed to salt producing areas in order
in the memorandum; to enable the local products also to
move. Moreover, in order to enable
(c) whether a decision has since
the benefits of rail-transport being ex-
been taken thereon; and
tended to other industries also, it has
(d) if so, the main features there- been decided to restrict the movement
of? of salt from areas other than salt pro-
ducing areas.
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Lapses in Foreign. collaboration
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA-
MANIAM): (a) to (d). The Namak *940. SHRI P. M. MEHTA:
'Udyog Sangh, Phalodi submitted a SHRI P. GANGADEB:
printed memorandum to the General
Manager, Northern Railway, New Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
Delhi on 14th March, 1973. DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
rECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
The main demands listed in the
memorandum are as under:- (a) whether certain lapses in foreign
cotlaboration have been pointed out to
(i) a guaranteed supply of 50 the Union Government;
wagons per day by way of
fixed quota may be sanctioned (b) if so, what are the lapses le-
and that some system of supported; and
ply per priority and ODR (c) what action is proposed to be
may be formulated; taken not to allow these lanses in
(ii ) the project of rail-line con- future?
necting Phalodi with Kolaya-
tji may be executed expedi-
ciously; and
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUB RA-
(iii) the ban imposed on loading of MANIAM): (a) Government's policy
salt from stations of Bikaner in regard to foreign investment and
Division may be removed. collaboration has been selective, inas-
43 Written Answers MAY 2, 1973 Written Answe'1'B'
much as import of technology and to the State ; Governments, separa

know-how is allowed only for the during 1973-74 for constructing hos~
items of manufacture for which indi- or for the extension of existing capaes-
genous capability has not adequately tyi of the hostels for girl students. ee-
developed within the country. Consis- longing to the Scheduled Castes. anti.
tent with this policy including the Scheduled Tribes?
maximum use of indigenous resources
such as raw material, machinery and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN. "
equipment and technology, as also the MINISTRY OF HOME AFF A.IRS
need for conservation of scarce foreign (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): The amGWl.t
exchange together with need to en- tentatively earmarked. for the. scheme
courage growth of exports. foreign in- of hostels for girl students belongmg
vestment and collaboration are allowed to Scheduled Castes and Schedu!1eC.
primarily in high priority and specia- Tribes for 1973-74 is Rs. 41.53
llsed technology sectors so as to de- (i.e., Rs. 17.85 lakhs for Sched~,
velop indigenous capacity in the vital Castes and Rs. 23.68 Iakhs for Scire-
economic sectors to the required ex- duled Tribes).
tent. Recently a Committee consisting
of top scientists and technologists was
appointed to review this policy and Assistance. to States for Tribal Dev
make recommendations to Govern- ment Blocks
ment. The Committee has just sub-
mitted its report which is under study. 8742. SHRI BHAGIRATH. BHAN-
WAR: Will the Minister of HO.
(b) and (c). Do not arise. AFFAIRS be pleased to' state:
(a) the amount of, assistance ghl8!!

Enquiry into the Missing of a Soviet
to the States, State-wise, for the 'In-··
Tourist from a Hotel Ia Delhi bal Development Block Programme
Schemes;
8740. SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY:
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS (b) whether any evaluation has
be pleased to state: made of the work done In this
text during the Fourth Five Year
(a) whether any enquiry was held period; and if so, main points therast;-
regarding the missing of a Soviet and
Tourist from a hotel in the capital on
the 30th March, 1973; and (c) what special measures' are' pn»-
posed to be taken for the econonne
(b) if so. the result thereof? development of the Tribals durmg mE-'
THE DEPUTY MINISTER THE m Fifth Five Year Plan period?
(::iHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) Yes, Sir. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TBE
(b) On enquiry, it was found that (SHRI F: H. MORSIN): (a) A state-
the Soviet National had left Delhi by ment is laid on the Table of the House,
Pan Amer.can Flight No. 001 at (P~acedin Library. See No. LT 4933.
5.51 AM on 31st March. 1973. 73]
(b) At the State level there is -

Amount for Construction of Hostles system of evaluation of Tribal
for Girls Belonging to Schelluled veldpment Blocks and other program--
Castes / Tribes mes, in particular by the Tribal Re-
search Institutes.
3741. SHRI BHAGIRATH BHAN-
WAR: Will the Miniser of HOME' The oraanisation of the Director
AFFAIRS be pleased to state the General (Backward Classes WeIfar.e.
amount of money proposed to be given has conducted some surveys/stu~~'
49 WtmmJbuwmm VAISAXHA 12,1899 (SAKA) Written Answer* 46
of certain Tribal Development Blocks LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND

ut different States and the main find TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
ings ate: (a) the amount o f assistance given
to the Scheduled Castes and Schedu
(i) Earmarked funds including led Tribe artisans in various States
C. D. provision have not been for the development o f cottage in
tuily utilised. dustries;
(ii) in certain areas cooperative (b ) the number of beneficiaries in
movement is weak and needs each State;
to be strengthened.
(c ) the! measures taken to offer
(h i) Irrigation facilities need to be employment or from cooperatives for
increased. those who have completed training;
The Commissioner for Scheduled
(d ) whether any evaluation has
Castes and Scheduled Tribes also
been made o f the scheme; and if so,
makes a general review of the Tribal
its outcome; and
Development in the country as a
whole. His Annual Report is laid on (e) the steps proposed to stream
the Table of the House. The last line and intensify the schemes?
report for the year 1969-70 has al
ready been laid on the Table o f the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
House. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DE
VELOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAH
The Parliamentary Committee on MAN AN SAR I): fa) to (e ). The in
the welfare of Scheduled Castej and formation is being collected and w ill
Scheduled Tribes has also taken up be laid on the Table o f the House.
examination of the T. D. Block pro
gramme in different States. So far.
the Committee has submitted a report Grade m Officers of Indian Statistical
on Guiarat (11th Report of the Fifth Service in the National Sample Sur
Lok Sabha) The Committee has also vey Organisation
completed examination of T.D. Block?
in Madhya Pradesh and their report is 8744. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA: W ill
awaited. the Minister o f PLANNING be pleas
ed to state:
(c) In the Fifth Five Year Plan a
new strategy for Tribal Development (a) the number of Grade III offi
is envisaged under which integrated cers of the Indian Statistical Service
area development programmes for the in the National Sample Survey Or
tribal regions having more than 50 ganisation (Field Operations D ivi
per cent tribal concentration are pro sion) who have been working there
posed to be prepared. Special atten continuously since the inception o f
tion is also proposed to be given to the Service, and
isolated tribal communities, tnbals
affected by industrial and other pro (b) the reasons for their continued
jects and shifting cultivators. The stay in that Organisation and not
results of the evaluatorv studies have rotating them in other Offices/Orga
been taken into account in framing nisations/ Branches o f the Depart
the programme. ment o f Statistics?

Assistance to Scheduled Castes and MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
Scheduled Tribes Artisan* fo r ie v e - MOHAN DHAR1A): (a ) There is n o
h V M o t o f C cttaie Industries officers belonging to G rade H I o f the
Indian Statistical Service w ho has
674S. SHRI K . M ALLANNA: W ill been w orking in that capacity in the
th* Minister o f INDUSTRIAL DEVE W eld Operations D iv isio n , Nattoaal
Written AniWert M AY Zf i m Written A to w m 4$
Sample Survey Organisation, conti ller or sfcttutorfly determined

nuously since the inception o f the under the Delhi Bent A ct and,
Service. in the absence o f such fixa
lb ) Does not arise. tion or determination, the an
nual value shall exceed the
agreed rent in the earlier
House Tax Leviable in Delhi years
(3) In the case o f premises w hich

8745 SHHI K SU RYANARAYANA:
have never been let at any
W ill the Minister o f HOME AFFAIRS time or premises whose an
be pleased to state: * nual value is being fixed for
the first time, the annual
(a) whether a judgment was deli
value shall not exceed the
vered by the Delhi High Court last
amount arrived at in accord
year that the House Tax leviable by
ance with the provisions o f
the Delhi Municipal Corpoiation on
section 6(1) (A ) (b ) or section
residential houses should be subject to
6(1) (B )(2 )(b ) o f the Delhi
the maximum o f 7| per cent o f tne
Rent Control A ct 1958 as the
capital cost thereof,
case may be and, in case it is
(b ) whether the Delhi Municipal not so ascertainable then on
Corporation continue to levy House the principles contained in
Tax according to their slab despite the sub-section (4) of section (9)
High Court’s verdict, and , o f the Delhi Rent Act
(c ) if so, the remedial measures The judgment pertained to the an

which Government propose to take to nual value (rateable value) o f the
*et matters right** premises, on w huh the house-tux is
calculated and not to house-tax as
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE such Rateable values of all premises
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS are being determined m accoi dance
(SHRI F H MOHSIN) (a) to (c ) In with the above judgment In so far as
the case o f Dewan Daulat Ram the above judgment pertains to the
K opur v /s the Municipal Corporation determination o f rateable value ot
of Delhi, the Delhi High Court held self-occupied residcmal premises, the
as follows on 16th November, 1972 Municipal Corporation o f Delhi has
(1) In the case of rented prem i filed an appeal before the Supreme
ses the annual value shall not Court The Delhi High Court has al
exceed the standard rent if ready given a certificate o f appeal in
fixed by the Controller or the matter
statutorily dcteim ined under
the Delhi Rent Control Act, Barring o f STD Facilities on Tele
1958, and in other case* where phones installed for P & T. Officers,
the standaid icn t na«s not been
fixed, the annual value shall 8746 SHRI K SU RYAN ARAYAN A:
not excoed the standard lent WiJ. the Minister o f COMMUNICA
tin ie r the agreed rent is taint TIONS be pleased to refer to the reply
ed by fiaud, collusion, emer given to (rSQ No 6055 dated the 4th
gency, relationship and such
April, 197 i regarding alleged misuse of
other consideration STD Cill* by P Se T Office!* and
(2) In the case o i premises not state
let m the year of assessment
but let at any time previous ( a) whether the Ministry of Finance
to it, the annual value shall O M doted the 5th October, 1972 en
not exceed the standard rent visages the barring o f telephones even
if fixed earlier by the C ontro in O tU e from STD facilities in res-
*49 Written AntWerg VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 50 ,
pact ol Officers drawing upto Bs, 1800 (c) the reasons for their continued
pjtn.l stay in the present Ministries/Depart
ments?
(b ) if so, the considerations which
have weighed with his Ministry is not THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
follow ing these orders in case o f Offi MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
cers o f equivalent rank in the P & T IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON
Department especially when trunk NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS M IRDHA):
.facilities are also made available to (a) No, Sir. No tenure is prescribed
them and the calls put through on the for holding cadre posts in the Indian
trunk lines are not paid for but treat- Statistical Service in any Ministry or
ed as departmental and adjusted on Department. For ex-cadre posts, a
paper only ; and normal tenure of 3 years is prescrib
(c ) what measures have been taken ed.
in barring of STD facilities in respect
o f residential telephones of Gazetted (b ) Four Grade III officers in the
Officers at various levels in the P & T
Ministry of Health and Family Plan
Department as envisaged in Ministry
ning and one Grade III officers in the
o f Finance O.M. referred to in part (a) Planning Commission have been work
above?
ing in the respective organisations
THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA since the inception of the Service. No
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): Grade IV officer has served continu
(a ) Yes. ously in the same Ministry/Depart-
ment since the inception of the ser
(b ) The matter is under considera vice.
tion of the P & T Board in consul
tation with Ministry of fin an ce. (c) These officers were allowed to
(c*> The STD service is barred from continue in the same Organisations as
residential connections if a request to there were vacancies in Grade III
that effect is received from the officers posts in these organisations at the
concerned. The directive of the time o f their promotion from Grade
Finance Ministry regarding limitation IV to Grade III. Efforts are made to
o f col’ s from residential service con rotate officers who have served for
nections Is being followed by the more than three years in the same
Department. organisation amongst other organisa
tions participating in the Indian
Prescribed period o f stay o t an officer Statistical Service.
o f Indian Statistical Service in the
Ministries
8747 SHRI K. SU RYAN ARAYAN A:
W ill the PRIME MINISTER be pleas srrsft g'wtaitn’ wnafrr
ed to state: % 9F*r3nft®fr *rc w =tt
(a ) whether any stay for an officer
o f the Indian Statistical Service in any s ? 48. sft wm
Department or Ministry either in
Grade III or Grade IV has been pres
cribed; and if so, what; and if not TTF fr
the reasons therefor;
<b) the number of Grade HI and (t) W'TST tmr*T

IV officers o f the Indian Statistical
aft f*fr£ it A irf faw.ifTsn itft
Service in the Planning Commission
and Ministry o f Health nnd Family nTTK sm nfaFTT r r fo r 3TFT
Planning w ho had been working there %■ are w t *r*frsffrr *rw w
continuously since the inception ol
the service; and v k mzrrw % i r a k w ft
51 An*w*rt m a y a, i m w rn m A m rn m
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TOUT, gft ^ jft JTtaFTT % SFTfa £t*!T I
sftw or f ^ f t Sr f $
T8T% fr, g y w ft g | t tt^ t m f^ d Hardships to Telephone users 2a Delhi
*rr g is q W g n *r srfwamr in the absence of New telephone
Directory
fe n tot fr 1 w r mfimft v t wfwrerwr
% f^T, ftrrit z n w n f£ * r 8754 DR H P. SHARMA: Will the
•tot H ’fnrn^t «pt srfsraw *ft v n fv r Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be
fr, x«p srftm i ? n f srr r?fr fr 1 pleased to state*
(a) the percentage of telephone
numbers that have been added or al
tered since the current edition of
*tar* * vra m r Delhi Telephone Directory was issued;
and
(b) whether Government are aware
8753. «ft JfW w v^fw r : of the hardship of users o f telephone
owing to delay m issue o f the new
* rr «ftatfn* fw w srsft 2 *rm directory and the number o f calls
19 7 3 % tTTTTTfaa S H W T 4142, made by users per month exclusively
for knowing the new telephone numbers
% *r^ 3rcn$r^tf^r
in Delhi and resultant loss of money
^ % : to +he public during 1972-73 and 1973-
74 (up-to-date)?
( w ) ^RTT sftr^r, J M sr^FT % THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA

nj. *fr*n: *FU<yw «rrfv=r wvt % TIONS (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA):
o ’) and (b ) The requisite informa
spffT *rr tffar f a w ’frr f^rnr tion is being collected and w ill be
TOT fr ; placed on the Table o f the Lok Sabha.
(«r) qf^r ^rTcfr v r st r t ?=*rrf«r<T *«*TS*5T% * W f a « y f » d H f t f w rq

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55 Written Answers M AY 2, IMS vln*t#er* 56
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a building in Bhavnagar, Gujarat
8 7 5 9. '-'TTtTm ~O'f <{lf~a' ; <p.fT
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8760. SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY:
lJ~ mft ~ ~
. f<fi : Will the Minister o'f HOME AFFAIRS
be pleased to state:
(<fi) ~~ ~!f 11!;;!f 'j\~m it f~
(a) whether the services of the'
erR ~W'Gfa mf~T ~ ~a Chief Inspector, of Explosives, Nagpur
VMM
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»
-we resummoned bythe Gu jaaat Gov ft v mrnw Rpcr
ernmen t and a probe was held into
«*f"
fSf
tr
the causesofthetwo exp los
ionsin a
bui
lding in Bhavnaga r o fthe 24 th Mfe m ftflri fan mm
March, 187Sin which two pe rsona
8762
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were ki
lled and some o
thersinjured:
.and qw «
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THE DEPUTY M INISTER IN THE

M IN ISTRY OF HOME AFFA IRS '
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(SHR IF. H. MOHS IN)
:(a ) Ye s
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ler of Exp losive s
, We st
Circle, Bombay,v isi
ted the s cene of (*) «
rfc t
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sentsamp lestothe Chem ical Analyser
Junagadh , on the same day . WXF* SRT *Tp
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8761 SHRI M S S1VASWAMY : w f
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MINISTRY OF INFORMAT ION AND
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(24-4-1973 W t )
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41 Wrtttcfi 'Affttttfft VAISAKHA 12, i m (SAKA) Written Answers 62
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8763 SHRI DINESH SINGH WiU

1 7 * f f ¥ W tfW s fa
the Minister of PLANNING be pleas
ed to state
1 f | q t r v n s r J R T c ft
ta) the rate of growth o f GNP m
s rrs ri 1971-72 and 1972-73,
1 9 . * f o w f a z f m
(b ) whether the release of this in
w m formation has been delayed as com
pared to previous years, and
2 0 . *F ? n r t o t
* * r * f r r (c ) if so, the reasons therefor?
v i . t f * « ? a w f t
f W ^ T N F f t MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
63 Written Answers MAY 2, 1973 Written Answers 64;
MOHAN DHARIA): (a) Information

fGf~ ~Tilt ~TqT q-r'f~lq ~~ ~ l{f~
is not yet available.
~ ~rti ,~1 ~ '!~OO'«~ ~
(b) No, Sir.
8765. l!.lf ~,,~ ~l!.l ~~~ : Cf11T
l!tT?JTfq~fGf~m ~T ~ ~ ~T '!'CfT
(c) Does not arise.
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(~)!flIT f.r~R ~ ~l·
~ '!~lt~.<!f;e: IDlfl<aTif ~ ~ ~ 2 0 0 1f.f;:p:f<f
mCfiCfhn tn: ma<fiTf~T ~ro 11",~
87 6 4. l!.ll <{get f~~ '«l~T;; : ~ ''IT <:%: ~, f~ qq;::n l1TlTTif;
<flIT m?Jlfq~ f"~T~ l1'~T lfQ: "faR ~~'f It f~ Bn1 ~ wer it .
9ft ,!,crr Cfi~ fin : ~crm CfiT ~ ;
( Cfi) "i<1T f~cmrT ~ Cfim Cfi8T

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~1<: It 5 q~ mer ~ fCfi ~ 'mCfiatm tn: m11Rn:

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( if) I1f<::~,erT ~<:CfiR;?f ~ ~:q;:rr ~~oT <tiT''IT ~T ~ ~1( ~1TT
f'PJ1"11 f<fi'i ~UfT ~ fCfilfT ? ~tn: W<::T ~T 1
Demonstration by T.V. Staff Artiste:s·

~l~Tfqcti f"~Hi et~T fcf~T" against recruitment policy
~1<: ~l~ftfq~f l{';lff (l!.lf ~f 0
8766. SHRI R R SHARMA: Will
~@Qlt'f) : ( Cfi) Q:m B+rnT ~ the Minister of INFORMATION AND
~ fin ~ i:?:T It Cfim Cfi8T ID<: BROADCASTING be pleased to state:
f~CfiT ~ ~ ttI.'ll It '!fu g-{ ~ 1 (cl) whether the T.V. Staff Artistes
recently demonstrated against the rec-
ruitment policy of Staff Artistes for
( ~ ) i:?:~if; i:p:r J;I,lll "l ~I1Cfi ~ the T.V.; and
m~ ~ wcrifer ~1 ma- ~ 1
(b) if so, reaction of Government
WfIJ!f ~ Cfi'"'tl:ffi~ It ~<:<tiR thereto?
9ft ~er ~IGj~ll<ti ~1 ~ I
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE·
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND'
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM
( IT) 5flR ~T ~1 MCfT 1 BIR SINHA): (a) Yes, Sir.
(b ) Their demand was for better been carried out on the feasibility of
promotion avenues. They demanded utilising products o f coal gasification
that a quota may be fixed for depart- fo r MHD power generation. For
mental promotion to the post o f Pro purposes of this study a power output
ducers (Grade 12). This demand is of 25MW from the MHD generator
considered from all aspects. was considered.
(b ) No, Sir.
Issue of Commemoration Stamp on
(c ) NCST has recommended that
Bangladesh
experiments on laboratory scale must
be initiated on coal based MHD pro
8767. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL gramme. These initial laboratory ex
REDDY: Will the Minister o f COM periments would be at power levels of
MUNICATIONS be pleased to state 1 to 2 MW.
whether Government issued a special
stamp on Bangladesh commemo Classification of Scheduled Castes and
rating the birth of the nation? Scheduled Tribes
THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA 8769. SHRI KARTIK ORAON: Will

TIONS (SHRI H. N BAHUGUNA): the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
A special Postage Stamp was issued pleased to state:
on the 10th April, 1973 to mark the (a) whether there is discrimination
inauguration o f the New Parliament
m the method of classification bet
o f Bangladesh. ween Scheduled Castes and Scheduled
Tribes; and
(b ) if so, the reasons therefor?
Generation o f Power from Hof Gas
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
8768 SHRI P GANGADEB
SHRI P. M. MEHTA: (SHRI F H. MOHSIN). (a) and <b).
In determining whether a community
W ill the Minister o f SCIENCE AND should be included in the list o f Sche
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: duled Castes or the list o f Scheduled
Tribes. Government have been guid
(a) whether Indian Scientists have ed by the following critenn:
drawn up the design of power plant
that will produce 25 megawatts of Scheduled Castes. Extreme social,
electric power from Hot Gas; educational and economic
backwardness arising out of
(b ) whether the Indian design is that traditional practice of
reported to be similar to the w orld’s untouchabihty.
first and only MHD generator which
has been producing electricity since Scheduled Tribes: Indications o f
December, 1971 on the outskirts of primitive traits, distinctive
Moscow w the Soviet Union; and culture, geographical isolation,
shyness o f contact with the
(c ) whether Expert group appoint community at large and
ed by the National Committee o f backwardness.
science has recommended that work on
MHD pow er generator be started at In the case o f the Scheduled Castes,
the earliest; and if so. Government’s the main criterion is the existence o f
reaction thereto? tangible handicaps arising out o f the
traditional practice o f untouchability.
TH MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Since this practice exists only among
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND members of the Hindu and Sikh, reli
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- gions, the Presidential Orders lay dow n
N IA M ): (a ) Preliminary studies have that only persons belonging these
557 LS—S
<57 Written Answers MAY 2, 1978 Written Answers 68
tw o religions can be considered to be fb> Sectoral allocations under the

members of the Scheduled Castes Fifth Plan, inckiJing outlay on irri
gation and power in the Central and
State Sectors, are being worked out,
v r r f* * tt While selecting new schemes for im
«m r a l 3tr* *n ?t ffxn plementation during the Fifth Plan,
emphasis would be given to irrigation
programmes which w ill benefit tribal
areas Tribal areas w ill reccive ade
8 7 7 o. sft fa«T • TOI quate attention in preparing rurnl
electrification programmes in the
«t$ *reft ^ f ^ f? T j r Fifth Five Year Plan. Minimum need*;
f% : programme o f Ra, 3300 crores will
also help to a great extent in deve
loping the tribal areas in the Fifth
(s f) t o t fsrfa srw>7 ?r
Five Year Plan
& far tt ^ " *? r
^ w m ir f t jtt^t trwr ? ts * t grm 2059
%*r<?T ^'riTi 4 ^rrer ^ "^t ms fcrar *t«t * t * t fr
^rnft
(ST) JTf? £T, ?ft fHT JPTTT 877 2. 5JW :

$*r% f?Tn; wrri t p ^t r t sm tot wft jtf f t ftrr
sfre T^y $ ’ fa
»P5 ifarran w t * r f a * fa w n if (r ) TOT * P W TTWTT*T 1^

T im *?ft (sft TTO f5 W « fa«rf ) : fg-^-R-7, 197 2 5r
(* ) sft iflft sfo n * I to *r snrTfsrr *•*? it *tjttw
^t * t f f^rniT iw t f f r ^ t w 'V
( * l) ST?* JT?V 7 5 TT I JTSWr 20S 8 TV! tt 3r krr
m*T »tot f ,
Reliance of General sector for deve
lopment of Tribal Areas during Fifth (^ ) TOr W i f r rr
Plan
I, sfar
8771. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO
W ill the Minister of PLANNING be (q ) stf* fT W * TOT
pleased to state:
ft ’
(a ) whether in the Approach to
firm er 8f («ft
Fifth Five Year Plan, reliance has
been placed on general sector for y * o qtro {*>) tfr st, fp*5
development of tribal areas; and W W 2 0 - 1 2 - 1 9 7 2 VT W lrfm
(b ) the allocations for tribal areas fVT *TT * f a \ •>- 1 2 - \9 7 2 *Pt 1
out o . the total outlay proposed for
irrigation and power in Fifth Plan,
under Central Sector and State Sector? (W ) f t W \
THL' MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

(ir) z fc v z % tTfT T O R
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN D H A R IA ): (a ) Yes. Sir. fr fr w r o r srm ^
<9 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 70
•ancfr % r r sn rn »rarr that there was no pnma facie case

^stjbhshtd m 8 complaints In the
«tt fa? im ?r 20S8 *•» *rr remaining one case report o f Director-
IpF $T apt »#TT 3ft trap General o f Vi<m* n r » "t <s consi3ered
<n€f % stst %m «tt b> the Central Vigilance Commission
and on their advice, no action was
qrcfe r m r d fc r * r r ir i s n ktu aguir >t the Director, Cential
1 9 7 2 *T tTOT?TT fann Fucu "^search Institute
^nrr «rr 1 t o * srr* t o f t f t
(d ) Ye^, Sir The matter has bc»*n
3TT T^t t 1 referred to Director-General of Vigi
lance for piehm m aiy investigations
Inquiry Into charges of conuptions

.against the Director of Central Fuel Production Assistants for T V . Delhi
Research Institute, Dhanbad
8774 SHRI RAJDEO SINGH W»IJ
8773 SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU the Minister o f INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state
SHRI ROBIN SEN
(a) whether any criteria for the se
W in the Minister o f SCIENCE AND
lection of Production Assistants for
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state
T V Delhi have been formulated,
(a) whether the Director General of
(b> what was the total number of
Vigilance enquired in the yeai 1971-72
applications received in Apnl/M aV,
into certain complaints o f corruption
1972 for said posts,
and malpractices against the Director
o f Central Fuel Research Institute (O the number o f applicant* selec
Dhunbad fBthar), ted with their qualifications and
<b> if so, the findings o f the Direc- grounds for rejection of others, and
1or General o f Vigilance,
<d) v hether more qualified and ex-
(c ) the action government intend to penenced persons m the field were
take against the Director, and altogether ignored and intimation
about tht rejection was sent several
(d ) whether C F R I Blanch of months after’
C S I R — Scientific Workers Associa
tion had sent in the year 1972 to the
Director General ( C S I R ) , New Delhi THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
and the Director General of Vigilance MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
■of C S I R New Delhi allegations of BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARVM
financial corruption against the Direc BIR SINHA) (a) Yes, Sir. The
tor, and if so, the action taken m the qualification presenbed for the post
matter9 aie as under:
THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Essential

DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Degree from a recognised Univer
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- sity with experience m assisting m
N IA M ): (a ) to (c ) The Director production or representation or experi
General o f Vigilance received from ence of programme in r c d i c T V . /
the Sarkar Committee 9 complaints Films/Theati - or m any other com
alleging corruption and malpractices munication media
against the Director, Central Fuel R e
research Institute, Jealgora The Di Desirable"
rector-General o f Vigilance made pre
liminary investigations which showed Background o f current affairs.
71 Wr
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, 1973 Wr
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fm ft ^ |i îf % -
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, who werefound v&
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to be ofthe required standard
, were
approvedfor appointmen tin orde
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Educated uaemjtoyed in Haryana (viu) Law 26

(ue) Education ,
2 ,V2
$777 SHRI BIRENDER SINGIi
RA O : W ill the Minister o f PLANNING (x) Others . 32
b e pleased to state
10,4*9
(a ) whether Government have col
lected any information regarding illi T otal 1,23,276
terate unemplpyed, unemployed gra
duates and engineers in the State of Besides, the normal programmes o f
Haryana, development included m the State's
(b ) if ho, the amount o f money given Annual Plan for 1972-73, Central as
b y Central Government to Govern sistance was given for special pro
ment o f Haryana during the last finan grammes for providing employment
cial year for their assistance, and oppbrtumties m the State as follows:
(c ) whether the entire amount has Amo urn

Name of the scheme
since been spent by State Govern allocated
ment, if so, the particulars thereof’ in1972-73
(Rs lakh*)
MOHAN DHARIA) (a) to (c ) A 1 Expansion and improvement
statement is laid on the Table of the in the quality of primar>
tducauon 30 01
House
2 Financial assistance to small
STATEMENT entrepreneurs for setting up
industries 70 00
According to the information avail 3 Rural Engineering Surveys 12 60

able from the Directorate of Employ 4 Agro Service Centres 0 53
ment Exchanges in Haryana then*
were 1,23,276 30b seekers registered 5 Fxpansion ot Consumer Coop
with the Employment Exchanges as Stores 2 10
on 31st December 1972 as follows 6. Investigation of Roads
Projects 4 *5
(i) Below Maine tincluding 7 Setting up of design units
^literates) 6&560 lor nial water suppi> 1 20
(2) Matriculates 34 167 8 Im es&gation ol Irrigation
and Power Projects 15 00
(3) Persons who passed Higher
Secondary (including Inter 9 Natural Resources Surveys 3 3*
mediates Under gradua
ted 10,120 10 Subsidised emo \ment of
engineering Degree Diploma
(.4) Graduates including post Holders o S3
graduates Total 10,429 11 Special Fmplovment pro
(1) A m 4>378 grammes tor die benefit of
rural and urban job seekers,
(u) Science* I >995 both educated and
uneducated (Central Assis
(iu) Commerce tance') 49 00
(iv) Engineering 401 12. Crash Scheme for Rural
Employment 87 50
(v) Medicine 146
(vi) Veterinary . * 6
Total 276 74
(vil) Agriculture , 168
75 Written Answers M AY 2, 1873 Written Answers 76 -
Informa tion regarding the actual ex scheme with financial assistance by

pend: lure incurred by the State G ov the Centre, if necessary?
ernment on these programmes is not
yet available. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MOHAN D H ARIA ): (a ) Yes, Sir.
Supply of Documents to Netaji Inquiry
Commission (b) No such proposal is under con
sideration.
8778. SHRI SAM AR GUHA: Will
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Position of Field Marshal in Warrant
pleased to state whether the docu o f Precedence in India
ments in possession of the Government
o f Japan, U .S A and U.K regarding
Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose and the 8780 SHRI BRIJ RAJ SINGH
alleged plane crash at Tripeh Taihoko KOTAH W ill the Minister o f HOME
involving the great Indian leader AFFAIRS be pleased to state the posi
w ere made available to the Netaji In tion of the Field Marshal in the War
quiry Comm* ion’ rant of Precedence in India?

THE D r : JT Y MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
MINISTPY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F H MOHSIN): Officers o f
(SHRI 1 H MOHSIN) AV the re the rank o f Field Marshal have not
cords available with the Government been mentioned in the Table o f Pre
which the Commission considered cedence However, Field Marshal
w ere relevant to its inquiry have al S H F J Manekshaw has been given a
ready been made available to them peisona1 rank m Article 15 o f the
Our Mission m Japan have inform Table of Precedence
ed that no documents that may have
any relevance to the subject were
available with the Japanese G overn Production of Zinc Alloy Tubes and
ment Documents received from our Pipes o f A lloy Steel in Nuclear Fuel
Mission m Washington have alreadv Complex In Hyderabad
been made available to the C o m m i s
sion Further efforts are still being 8781 SHRI K LAK K APPA-
made to obtain certain relevant docu SHRI P GANGADEB
ments, stated to be m the possession
o f the authorities m the United King Wil> the Mmistei of ATOMIC
dom ENERGY be pleaded to state.
(a) whether the Nuclear Fuel Com
Employment guarantee s'h en — for plex m H jderabdd w ill soon start pro
rural unskilled labour in Maharashtra duction of Zinc Alloy Tubes and Pipe?
o f Alloy steel; and
8779 SHRI P NARASIMHA
(b ) if so, the salient featuies thtre-
REDDY W ill the Minister o f PLAN
oV
NING be pleased to state
THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
(a) whether the State Governm< nt
OF ATOMIC ENREGY, MINISTER
o f Maharashtra have introduced an
OF ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF
employment guarantee scheme for the
INFORMATION AND BROADCAST.
rural unskilled labour, and
ING AND MINISTER OF SPACE
(b ) whether Central Government (SHKIMATI INDIRA G AN D H I): (a)
proposes to ask all other State G ov and (b ). It is wot proposed to under
ernments to embark upon such a take production o f zinc alloy tubes at
the Nuclear Fuel Com plex (NFC), Grant of bonus to employees o f Ambar
Hyderabad. As for the alloy steel Saranjan Bhandar, Ahmedabad
pipes, a plant for the production of
2000 tonnes of stainless steel seam ier
tubes per year is being set up at 8783. DR RANEN SEN: Will the
NFC at a total cost of Rs. 41270 lakhs Minister o f INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP
This plant is expected to start p io- MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH
duction towards the end of 1975. NOLOGY be pleased t« state:
(a) whether the employees of the

Arrest of Pakistani Spies in Bombay Ambar Saranjan Bhandar, Ahmed
abad, of the Khadi and Village Indus
try Commission have filed a writ
S782 SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR: Will petition m th*' High Court of Ahmed
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be abad for the grant of bonus to them;
p ie c e d to state*
(b) whether the writ petition has
fa) whether two Pakistani Spies
been admitted;
w ho wer*. operating in Bombay for
some time have been arrested by the
S e'iin ty Police, (c) whether thf* bench of the High
f ourt had tendered the suggestion to
(b> whether they were smuggled in ♦hr Advocate General, Attorney Gen
to India after Indo-Pak war and were eral and/or Legal Adviser^ of ihe
spying on the movement of the Indian Commission to settle the matter ami-
Navy m the Bombay Docks as well as cabl> wi*h the Khadi Commi?non
on S ow e‘ shir^ berthing there; and K an m th a n Union, and
(r) the fdrt*; of the case and the ac ul» if ‘-o the <top being taken by
tion taken or proposed to be taken m Government’
ibis regard? “
THF DFPUTY MINISTER IN THE
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS A N S A R I) (a) and <b) Khadi Com
AN’ D IN THE DEPARTMENT OF mission Karamchari Union, Ahmed
PERSONNEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS abad Branch +hrough its Ahmedabad
MIRDHAi U ) to > 0 Two Pak na Unit Secretary, Shashik&nt Shukla,
tionals had been arrested m Punjab C/o Ambar Saranu.n Bhandar,
m November 1971, while trying to Ahmedabad filed a writ petition m
(res*, over unauthonsedly into Pakis the High Court of Gujrat, Ahmeda-
tan They were prosecuted and con- abad for the >;rant of bonus, during
\icted under the relevant laws to six 1972 which vta*> admitted
n in th s’ rigorous imprisonment and a
ft-1*1 o f Rs 1000A arid in default to (c> ir d (d) The petition was with
suffer 3 months’ rigorous imprison draw:' oy the Khadi Commission
ment On tht expirv of the above Karamcb.au Union with the permis
‘ entonces they have been re-arrested sion of the Court.
by the Bombay Police on suspicion
thi»t they had indulged in espionage Ronvb to Employees of K.V.I.C.
ru t vities, while thrtv were residing at
Bombay earlier. The cases ^registered
against them under the Official Sec 8774. DR. RANEN SEN: W ill the
rets Act, 1923 are under investigation. Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
79 Written Answers M AY 2, 19n W H tten A n sw en So
MENT AN D SCIENCE AMD TECH Profnunne indicating utoaa aftd In

NOLOGY be pleased to state: dustries covered «nd«r tlt» Khadi M
(a ) whether the Khadi Village In
dustries Commission is not interested
in settin g the question o f granting 8786. DR. RANEN SEN: W ill the
bonus to its employees; and Minister o f INDUSTRIAL DEVE
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
(b ) if so, the steps being taken by TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
Government to settle the question?
(a) whether Khadi and Village
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Industries Commission has sent various
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE proposal to Government for the Com .
LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAU R RAHMAN mon production programme, indicat
A N SA R I): (a) and (b ) Khadi and ing therein the areas and industries
Village Industries Commission has covered under the Khadi and Village
been established not as a profit making Industries Commission to be reserved
institution, it is hence covered by Sec encouraged/patronised by G overn
tion 32(v) of the Bonus Act and is, ment;
therefore, exempt from the provisions (b ) if so, the saielnt featudes o f the
o f that Act. programme; and
Demand for Grant of Bonus to (c) Government’s reaction thereof?
Employees of Khadi and Village
Industries Commission THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
8785. DR. RANEN SEN: Will the
LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE
A N SA R I): (a) to (c). The Khadi and
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
Village Industries Commission sent
proposals to Government, indicating
(a) whether the Khadi Commission therein certain problems o f village
Karamchari Union had placed a industries and suggested reservation
demand for grant o f bonus to the in the fields of industries continuation
employees o f the Commission in 1967 of fiscal concessions, fixation of flloor
and also in 1971; prices, assistance in technical develop
(b ) whether the Khadi Commis ment, price and purchase preference
sion had rejected the demand o f the from Government, adequate supplies of
raw materials to village and rural in
Union and the matter went to the
dustries ctc, Some o f the concessions
Labour Commissioner, Government of
Maharashtra; sought are already existing, while
the remaining are under the consi
(c ) if so, whether any decision has deration o f the Government.
been arrived at; and
Expansion of Machinery to check
(d ) whether the advice given by
Financial aspects for proper utilisation
the conciliation officer to the Com
of funds by Khadi and Village Indus
mission to go for voluntary arbitra
tries Commission
tion and supply o f necessary data o f
bonus payable to the employees was
not given heed to by the Commission? 8787. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA:
Will the Minister o f INDUSTRIAL
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
A N SAR I): (a) to (d ). H ie inform a (a) the total disbursements made by
tion is being collected and w ill be the Khadi and Village Industries
laid on the Table o f the House. Commission and the all India Khadi
tl Written Answer* VAISAKHA 1% 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 82
and Village Industrie* Board upto cession is not available to other

1971-72; States. Sales in the course o f export
outside India are, o f course, exempted
(b ) the total expenditure incurred
from sales tax. The concession sought
by tiie Commission on the audit o f
is likely to lead to loss o f revenue,
this disbursement;
besides creating administrative diffi
(c ) whether the Khadi Commission culties. Foreigners visiting India may
is expanding the machinery of check well afford to bear the small incidence
in the financial aspects of the grantee/ o f sales tax. The Association was
loanee Institutions for the proper informed that the exemption sought by
utilisation of funds; and them cannot be granted.
(d ) if so, the specific proposals of

expansion o f checking machinery and Price of Salt in West Bengal
when they are likely to be imple
mented?
8789. SHRI R. P. DAS: Will the
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO
LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN LOGY be pleased to state:
AN SAR I): (a) to (d ). The informa
(a) whether the people of West
tion is being collected and will be laid
Bengal have to pay more for salt pro
on the Table of the House
duced in the country than the people
of Japan, a consumer countrj of
Sales Tax on Precious Stones and Indian salt;
Jewellery sold to Tourists from
Foreign Countries (b) whether the high cost of salt
which is also a basic chemical for the
manufacture o f Soda Ash, caustic
8788 SHRI M. S. SANJEEVI RAO: soda and chlorine, makes it impossible
W ill the Minister o f HOME AFFAIRS
for the industry located m West
be pleased to state: Bengal to put out their products at
(a) whether Delhi Jewellers Asso competitive price, and
ciation have urged the Central G ov
ernment that levy o f Sale* Tax on (c) if so, the reasons therefoi?
precious? stones and Jewellery sold to
foreign tourists be withdrawn; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
(b ) if so, the reaction o f G overn LOPMENT (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR
ment m this matter* MUKHERJEE) (a) Does not arise, as
no salt has been exported to Japan
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE after 1970.
(SHRI F. H M OHSIN): (a ) and (b ) (b ) No such complaint has been
There is no representation from the received from any industry ir West
Delhi Jewellers Association that the Bengal.
levy o f sales tax on precious stones
(c) Does not arise.
and Jewellery sold to foreign tourists
be withdrawn. However, the New
Delhi Traders Association sent repre
Development Of village Industries in
sentation on 12th February. 1973 to
Ara&achal Pradesh
an Executive Councillor, Delhi, re
questing that local sales o f precious
stones and jew ellery to foreigners 8790. PROF. NARAIN CHAND
against foreign currency should be PARASHAR' W ill the T/liniîer o f
exempted from sales tax. This con INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
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Import of Truck Tyres the event of such a transfer the inte
rests of the employees would be ade
8794. SHRI P. NARASIMHA RED· quately safeguarded; and
DY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL (b) if so, the present position of the
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND matter?
TECHNOLOGY ifflPI
(a) whether any arrangements have THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN 'THE.
been made for emergent imp ort of MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE
Truck Tyres for which there is short LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN
age in the country. ANSARI): (a) and (b) The informa
tion is being collected and will be laid
(b) if so, the salient features there on the Table of the House.
of; and
(c) what arrangements are proposed Gratuity Scheme for Khadi and Vill21.ge
to ensure proper distribution of the Industries Commission
imported Tyres to Bonafide Truck ope
rators?
8796. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: Will.
THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND LOPMBNT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
MANIAM): (a) to (c). The State T:-ad
ing Corporation of India Limited have (a) whether, the present gratuity
been requested to import 5,000 truck scheme of the Khadi and Village
tyres immediately from Sri Lanka Industries Commission is only a
stop gap arrangement, pending appro
with a view to meet the urgent re
quirements of certain state Tramport val of the Commission scheme by
undertakings. Government are also Government;
considering the import 9f a :further (b) whether the present scheme is
10,00o truck tyres through the State conferring less benefits than the recent
Trading Corporation of India Limited legislation of gratuity passed by tbe
to mE:et the requirements of State _
Parhament:
Road Transport Under�a_kii;igs. These
tyres will be distributed to the State (c) whether the Commi.Jsion has
Transport Uhdertakings on a pro been advised by Government to ado pt
rata basis after assessing their actuaJ. th e rece:1t gratuity, legislation pend
requirements. ing approval of the Commission's pro
posal for gratuity; and
Transfer of Khadi Commission's (d) !f so. the steps taken by the

.
Bhava11 from Bhopal Comm1ss10h?
8795. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE

the Min,ister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE�
LOPMEN'.,I' ANp SCIENCE AND LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: ANSARI): (a) to (d). The informa
tion is being collected and will be
(a) whether at the Khadi and vil laid on the Table of the House.
lage Industries Board's meeting held
in Delhi on the 19th January', 1973 an
understanding was given b y the repre Scheme for payment of Gratuity to
sentatives of the Commission that in Emplo!ees of Khadi and Village Indus
respect of Khadi Commission's Bhavan tries Commission
at Bhopal the transf_er will not be
made of the Bhavan' without the con 8797. SHRI S. A. MURUGANTH.Al',.-1
sent of the staff members and that in Will the Mihister of INDUSTRIAL
87 Written Answers MAY 2, 1973 Written Answer# 88
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Proposal to * * op « Sarai Industries

TECHNOLOGY be Pleased to state: t OwhM m
(a ) whether the Khadi and Village 8789, SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH
Industries Commission has negotiated M AUK:
a scheme for the payment of gratuity SHRI D. P. JADEJA:
to its employees with the Khadi Com Will the Minister o f INDUSTRIAL
mission Karmachan Union, if so. the DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
outcome thereof, TECHNOLOGY be pleased to refer to
the reply given to Unstarred Ques
(b) whether the Scheme with the
tion No 305 on the 21st February,
due approval of the Khadi and Village
1973 regarding proposal to set up a
Industries Commission has been s e n t
Rural Industries Commission and state;
to Government,
(c ) whether Government have consi (a) whether any decision on the
dered the Scheme, and proposal to set up a Rural Industries
Commissioh to solve the problem of
(d ) if so, the decision taken there- unemployment m rural areas has
•on* since been taken, and
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THL (b ) if so, the broad outlines thereof?
LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
A N SA R I). (a) and (b ) A scheme for MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE
the payment o f gratuity to i*s em p
ANSARI) (a) No, Sir
loyees was submitted bv the Khadi
and Village Industries Commission (b) Does not arise.
Bombay to the Government of India
Labour Laws applicable to K.V.IC
(c ) and (d ) Government of India
has considered the Gratuity Scheme 8800 SHRIMATI BH ARGAVI THA-
for the employees of the Commisstor NK APPA W ill the Minister of IN
and communicated iK decisi >n to the DUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
Khadi and Village Industries Com SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
plea ed to state:
mission, Bombay
Proat made by Khadi Gramodyog (a) whether in or about 1961 m the
Rhavan, New Delhi context of grant of recognition to the
Trade Unions m the Khadi and Village
8798 SHRI S A MURUGANAN- Industries Commission, Ministry of
THAM Will the Minister of INDUST Law opined to the Commission through
RIA L DEVELOPMENT AND the Ministry of Industry that the
SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be Commission’s employees get covered
pleased to state under the Industrial Dispute Act .nil
other such labour laws and that the
(a) whether the Khadi Gramodyog Khadi and Village Industries Commis
Bhavan New Delhi has been making sion is an Industry attracting the
profit since its inception and relevant labour laws applicable to the
(b ) if so. accumulated profit upto Industry and
1971-72 and the amount o f capital
(b> if so. further details in this
invested as on 1st April, 1972
regard9
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE
LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN
ANSARI) (a) to (b ) The infor ANSARI)- (a) and (b ) The informa
mation i» being collected and will be tion is being collected and will be
laid on tile Table o f the Hotwe. laid on the Table o f the House.
Bole of Cottage and Village Industries Central Assistance to states Vis-a-Vis

sector vis-a-vls Small and Large Gujarat
Industries
8803. SHRI PRABHUDAS PATEL:
8801. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI Will the Minister of PLANNING bo
THANKAPPAN: Will the Minister of pleased to state:
INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be (a) whether Centre's per capita aid
pleased to state. under the Fourth Five Year Plan has
been the lowest in the case of G u ja r a t
(a> whether Government have con Stale vis-a-vis other States in the
sidered the role to be played by the country,
cottage and village Industries sector
(b) whether per capita aid given to
vis-a-vis the small industries sector
Punjab has been the highest so far;
and large industries Sector, :md
(c ) if so. the reasons for giving the
(b) if so, the outcome thereof? lowest per capita aid to Gujarat, and
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (d) what steps are being taken to
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DFVE give adequate aid to Gujarat State
LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN during the Fifth Five Year Plan?
ANSARI) (a) and (b). Th® Indus
trial Policy Resolution of 19% has. laid THE MINISTER OF STATE IN
down the basic principles that govern THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING
the Government's approach towards (SHRI MOHAN DHARIA) (a) No,
industrial development >n general, in Sir The Fourth Plan per capita
cluding the role to be played by the Central assistance allocated to Gujarat
cottage village, and Mnall scale indus (Rs 57) works out to be higher than
tries sector vis-a-vis other sectors that allocated to Andhra Pradesh
These principles continue to govern (Rs 54) Maharashtra (Rs 47), Tamil
Government’s policies m this regard. Nadu (Rs 50 k Uttar Pradesh (Rs. 56)
ana West Bengal (Rs 48) and is equal
Prospects for developing Village In to that of Bihar and Mysore
dustries in Kerala
(b ) No, Sir.
6802 SHRIMATI BHARGAVI (c) Does not arise

THANKAPPAN Will the Minister of (d) The objective criteria for allo
INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND cating Central assistance among the
SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be States in the Fifth Five Year Plan are
pleased to state still under consideration in Planning
Commission.
(a) whether any survey was made
to find out prospects for developing
village industries in Kerala.
Deferment of Formulation of Incomes
<b) if $0, the outcome thereof* and and Prices Policy
(c ) what are the industries pro

posed to be developed in the rurol 8804 SHRI D K PAN DA. Will the
areas o f Kerala? Minister of PLANNING be pleased to
state
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL PEVE' (a) whether Government have
LOPMENT <SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN decided to formulate a clear-cut
ANSAIU): (a) to (c) The informs' national wages policy but has decided
tlon is being collected and will be laid to defer the chalking out ot the income*
on the Table of the House. and prices policy, and
91 Written Answers M AY 2, 1073 Written Answers 92
(b) 1f 90, the reasons lor deferment unstarred Question No. 8099 dated
o f the formulation of the incomes an/., 2?th April, 1973.v
prices policy?
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Subsidy to Industrialists for setting

MINISTRY OP PLANNING (SHRI up Industries in Backward Areas
MOHAN D H ARIA ): (a; and 0>>. The
Government have taken no decision 8806. SHRI PRABODH r IA>'DRA*
to defer formulation of the prices and Will the Minister o| INDUSTRIAL
Incomes policy. As indicated in the DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
docum ert “ Approach to the Fifth TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
Plan” , the Government view prices,
wages and incomes as close inter (a) whether the machines des-
linked facets of a policy oriented to paiched, received, paid for and instal
growth with stability and social led alter lit October, 1970 ore being
justice. A reasonable balance between ret used the 10 per cent outright sub
prices, wages and incomes has been sidy foi s-elected backward «.»ieas only
considered on essential element of such because ordeis for the same w*re
a policy. Some important features of placed before 1st October, 1970, and
an appropriate pnees-wages-incomes (b ) if so, whether Government pro
policy have been indicated in the pose to review the policy »n thi*«
Approach Document. Details covering regard?
all the three aspects are bein$ worked
out for inclusion iR the Draft Plan THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
which is expected to be readv by Sep MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE*
tember. 1973. LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN
A N S A R Ir (a) and <b*. The 10 pot’
A ctM tie* o f r i \ . cuit Central outright grant or subsidy
scheme 197i. is applicable only to the
8805. SHRI JYOTIRM OY BOSU* new industry.* un t*. nr the e x is t 't
W ill the Minister o f HOME AFFATRS industrial units Electing substantial
be pleased to state: expansion, m specified backward areas.
As defined in para 4 (b ) of the scheme
(a) whether the Indian Institute of a ‘new industrial unit’ means an
Technology has in collaboration with industrial unit for the setting up of
the Uhiversity of Michigan, U .S A . which <fTective steps were taken after
started a survey o f “ attitude of U.P i-t October. 1970 and in terms of the
villagers towards family planning" with explanations given for the effective
liberal financial assistance from '•tops' vidr para 4 (e> (hi> thereof,
America; the date of firm order has to be taken
into consideration and not the date of
(b ) if so, the facts thereof; receipt of macinery
(c) whether it has been alleged that

this collaborative research project is Special Assistance to Bihar for Deve
being utilised by the C.I.A. to collect lopment of Backward Districts
materials for political subversion* »r>d
8807. SHRI R P. YADAV Will the
(d ) if so, Government’:- reaction Minister of PLANNING be pleased to
thereto? state:
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether the backward State of

MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Bihar is going to get some special assis
(SHRI F. H. M OHSIN): (a) to <<*> tance form the Central Government
Facts are being ascertained. Attention r>r the development o f its identified
Is also invited to the answer given to backward districts; and
(b) whether Government propo!'>e TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA

to allocate funds for the development MANIAM): (a) to (c). The number of
of these districts to the District
for.::i;;n. collaboration cases approved
Planning Board to take effective steps?
by Government during 1972 is as
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE below:-
MINISTRY OF PLANNING <SHRJ
MOHAN DHARIA): (a) and (b). The
broad policy for the Fifth Plan with Year Total number of Cases involving
regard to the development of identified cases approved Foreign capital
backward area s has been spelt out in participetion
Chapter X of the "Approach to the
Fifth Plan" already placed on the
Table of the House. The operational
details with regard to the financing 1972 257
of programmes for their accelerated
development an'd the institutional
arrangements for their implemen
tation will be worked out in consulta
tion with the State Government on Quarterly statements of these cases
the receipt of the State Plan propo which indicate the name and address
sals. of the Indian party, the name and
address of the foreign collaborator,
Foreign Collaboration Cases during
1972 item of manufacture and whether the
collaboration also involved foreign
8808. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN: capital participation are published
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL in the Journal of Industry and Trade.
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Copies of these quarterly statements
TECHNOLOGY be pleased ti) state:
covering the year 1972 are also avail
(a) the number of foreign· collabo able in the Parliament Library. The
ration cases approved 'by Government exact location of these industrial
during 1972, the nature of foreign col units will be known when· the concer
laboration and the names of foreign
companies or parties involved in this; ned parties finally go ahead with the
setting up of these units.
(b) the items proposed to be manu-
1actured with foreign collaboration;
(d) Copies of foreign collaboration
(c) the names of Indian pa.rties to applications are invariably forwarded
whom the foreign c ollaboratio!'l has to D.G.T.D., C.S.I.R., Department of
been allowed and the location of their Science and Technology, and other
manufacturing units; and Technical authorities whose views on
(d) the authorities which ensure the question of need for importing
that such foreign collaboration is the technology are taken into consi
absolutely necessary, and the terms deration while deciding the llpplica
and conditions of the foreign colla tions. These technical authorities are
boration in each case1' also represented on the Foreign In
vestment Board which is the focal
THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL authority to consider applications for
DEJVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND foreign collaboration/investment.
95 Written Answers M AY 2, 1973 Written Answers 96
The terms and conditions approved the reported observation by the Chief
vary from case to case depending on Minister.
various factors including the nature Non-Governmental agencies working
o f technology proposed to be imported for upgrading of economic conditions
Generally speaking, royalty upto a in tribal areas
maximum of 5 per cent subject to
Indian taxes, has been allowed lor » 8810 SHRI S N MISHRA-
SHRI K MALLANNA
period of 5 years from the date nt
commencement of production In suit* Will the Minister of HOME AF
able cases a lump sum technical fee FAIRS be pleased to state
has also been allowed
(a) the names o f the non-Govern-
Where foreign capital participation mental agencies m the country work
was involved, by and large a minority ing for the upgrading of economic con
foreign equity .holding, o f 40 per cent ditions m tribal areas, and
or below, has been allowed (b) the grants-m-aid provided to
Reported Observation o f Chief Minis theê agencies separately during the
ter o f Goa regarding Hindu Raj current financial year’
ruling Goa
8309 SHRI H N MUK.HERJEE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
Will the Minister c f HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F H MOHSIN1) (a) nnd (b)
be pleased to state The information is being collected and
will be laid on the Table of the Lok
(a) whether he is aware of conster
Sab ha when it becomes available
nation among many citizens o f the
Union Territory of Goa on account of Po*t Offices P C Os and Telegraph
the reported observation of the Chief Officer in Orissa
Minister (Navhtnd Times dated the
28th March, 1973) that everybody 8811 SHRI BAKSI NAYAK Will
the Mimtter of COMMUNICATIONS
born »n thi§ country was a H ndu and
there was ‘nothing w ion ? m a Hindu be pleased to state
Raj ruling Goa and

(a) number of nos< offices category
(b) if so his reaction in the matter’ wise P C Os and lelesraph Office** n
different Districts of Orissa.
(b) number of these offices proposed
(SHRI F H MOHSIN) (a) rnd (b )
to be opened dur n,j 197)74 and
The Government are not aware of arv
consternation among any citizens o f (O whether Government propose to
the Union Territory of Goa, Daman make a ‘ tiecial survey m Phulbam
and Dm on account o f the eported District a backward District, and
observation of the Chief Minister open adequate number of post *>nd
Government are, however, totally un telegraph offices to bring this district
able to accept the view contained in at par with other districts in Orifesa’
97 W rit$ m A m w ers V A ISA K X A 12, 1806 (S A K A ) Written Answer* 99
THE MINISTER O f COMMUNICA

TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA)
(a) The information is furnished
below:—
Name of Dutt. Post Offices P.C 0.8

UulCCS
HOs. SO*. BOs
Ba l a s o r e * • 2 89 672 47 69
BALANGIR • e X 31 268 21 22
GANJAM • • 3 8x 594 56 71
CUTTACK * • 4 132 709 97 120
DHENKANAL . • ♦ X 33 304 3X 36
KEONJHAR . • • I 33 255 28 31
KALAHAND! . • • X 2t 2x6 7 19
KORAPUT • • 2 64 290 *5 4r
MAYURBHAKJ • • X 37 395 25 33
PURI • 4 74 531 78 66
PHULBANI * • X 17 239 xo *3
SUNDERGARH 2 42 193 34 »6
SAMBALPUR . • • 2 72 400 44 47
(b) The information is furnished
below —
Marne o f Disstt.^ Post P.C.O4 T< * g g *

Offices
BALASORE 5 3 4
BALANGIR . • • • • • • xo 2 Nil
GANJAM „ • • xo i 4
CUTTACK 5 16 3
DHENKANAL . 25 I Nil
KEONJHAR . 25 X 1
KALAHANDI . 25 Nil Nfl
KORAPUT • * * . 20 9 4
MAYURBHANJ. . . 15 I Nil
PURI 5 4 3
PHULBANt . . 25 2 X
SUNDERNAGAR 20 Nil 1
SAMBALPUR . . XO 4 4
551 UBMk
$9 Written Aiut»«rt MAY a, l*?s WrttMa A w ocn 100
(c) Postal Services-- including s e r v ice in the next below

grades and are permanent in any of
No special survey in this respect is these cadres are eligible to be con
considered necessary. The Govern sidered for selection to Postmasters
ment propose to expand postal facili Service Class 17,
ties to the follow ing extent:
The selection in both the cases is
(i) It is proposed to open 25 new made by a Departmental promotion
post offices in the District dur Committee on the basis o f service
ing 1973-74. records
(ii) It is oroposed to raise the
Status of 4 post offices in the Training e l P. ft T. Employees
District during 1973-74.
(iii) A separate Postal Division has 8813. SHRI BAKSI NAYAK: W ill
been created for Phtdbani Dis the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
trict to develop postal facili be pleased to state:
ties by opening as many new
offices as possible. (a ) what are the steps Government
for taking to train the Post and Tele
Telegraph Services— graph employees for discharging their
duties satisfactorily; and
A special survey is being made to
open adequate number of telegraph (b) what further steps Government
offices in Phulbani District. propose to take in this regard during
the Fifth Five Year Plan?
Basis o f promotion of non*gazetted THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA

postal officials to gazetted cadres TIONS ■(SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA):
(a) The Post and Telegraph employees
8812. SHRI BAKSI NAYAK: Will o f various categories are given train
the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS ing in the Training Institutions set u?
be pleased to state the basis on which for the purpose. On the Telecommuni
the lower administrative non-gazetted cations side, there are 7 iie&ionai
postal officials are oromoted to the Training Centres and 24 Circle/District
gazetted cadres? Training Centres catering to the te-
quirements of different cadres. Be
THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA sides the initial training, refresher
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): courses are also conducted in different
Non-gazetted postal officials who are subjects for the various categories of
either Inspectors of Post Offices or staff. On the Postal side, there are
Inspectors o f Railway Mail Service 4 Residential Training Centre ; which
or have been Inspectors oi Po.u Offices impart training to the various opera
and Inspectors Railway Mail Service tive and supervisory cadres. Refresher
and are working in higher non-gazetted courses are being introduced at these
grades mid are permanent in one of Centres for the lower selection grade
these grades with five years continuous stall. In addition, non-residential local
service and are below 50 years o f age training classes are set up, us and
on the 1st July of the year of selec when required, if the Residential Train
tion are eligible to be considered for ing Centres are not in a position
selection to the Postal Superintendents* to meet in fu ll the training needs
Service Class II. o f the operative staff. Officers belong'
Non-gazetted postal officials who are ing to both the Postal and the Tele-
working as Assistant Superintendents com. Wihgs are also deputed periodi
of Post Offices or Higher Selection cally to Training Institutions such as
Grade Postmasters with five yearg ser the Indian Institute o f Public Adminis
vice in the grade or 8 years service tration, New Delhi and the Adminis
IOX Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1893 (SAKA) Written Answers io z
trative Staff College. Hyderabad tax (ii) Discontinuance o f unnecessary

undergoing training in Management and air bags which will not con*
allied subjects. nect the day’s delivery after
receipt at the office of deli*
(b ) It is proposed to establish addi
very.
tional Training Centres at the Regio
nal, Circle and District levels and
(iii) AU bulk postings should be
enlarge the Training capacity.
accepted at the counter.
StajOiflcation of Bales and Procedures (iv) Multi-purposes counters to eli

in P. & T. Department minate queues in post offices.
(v ) Printing o f particulars o f due
8814. SHRI BAKSHI N A YA K : Will mails in registered abstracts
the Minister o f COMMUNICATIONS In POs.
(vi) Evolving a proper pattern of
(a ) whether Government are con
sidering simplification of rules and sorting.
procedures in the Post and Telegraph
(vii) Prescribing a standard for
Department.
closing o f bags.
(b) if so, the salient features of the
(viii) Dispensing with addressee’s
proposal under consideration; and
receipt in respect o f registered
(c) the nature of action, so far, letters and registered parcels
taken in this direction and what fur and instead taking addressee’s
ther actions are proposed to be taken signature in the delivery slip
in the matter’ itself in offices where the deli
very slip system is in vogue.
THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA
TIONS (SHRI II. N. BAHUGUNA) (a) (ix ) Abolition o f monthly abstract
Yes, Sir o f branch office transactions.
(b) On the Postal side a Cell has n —Orders under issue:

been formed to study the procedures
The salient features of the study are* - (i) Discontinuing the submission
o f monthly copy of sub office
(i) Procedures for handling of accounts.
mails from despatch to deli*
very; (ii) Discontinuing the submission
o f Excess Cash Balance memos.
fii) Procedures for the booking and
payment o f MOs; (iii) Due despatches to Return
Letter Offices
(iii) Procedures for the bookinj*
and delivery o f registered and (iv) Charge in the procedure of
parcel mail; and delivery o f High Value Insur
(iv) Procedures in the Sub-Account ed Articles.
and Treasury Departments o* <v) Discontinuance of sealing of
the Post Offices. T / bags.
(c) Based on the study in the last HI—Under Examination:
seven months some procedures have
been simplified. They are:— (i) Recorded delivery service.
(ii) Revised procedure for the use

I—Order* kmmd: of registered acknowledgement.
(i) Printing of advance work (iii) Reorganisation ot the accounts
paper* in RMS. work in Head Post Offices.
103 Written Answers M AY 2, 1978 Written Answers 1O4
(iv) Reorganisation ol Accounts (b ) if so, what axe those plans; an*

wd*k in Head Record Offices.
(c) when those plans are likely to
<v) Difpefasing with the checking be implemented?
o l work papers in the R.M.S.
Record Offices. m t MINISTER 6 t g f ATE IN THE
(v i) Cutting dow n documentation MINISTRY OP PLAJttrtNa (SHRI
in registration, parcel and MOHAN D H ARIA ): (a) to (c ). As
M O branches. indicated in the “ Approach to the
Fifth Plan” , which was laid on the
(vii) Simplification o f Sub Office Table of the Haute oft 30.2*1973, U is
and branch Office summaries. proposed to dsmatfcsfte compact areas
with sizeable concentration o f tribal
(viii) Reduction in the frequency of
population for formulating integrat
submission o f accounts by Sub-
ed area plans and to direct for
Offices/Branch Offices.
this purpose larger flow o f funds from
various sectors of development. Apart
Schemes finalised to jiv e a new turn from such compact areas, in many
to Kashmir’s Economy districts there are small isolated
pockets of tribals. Special schemes
8815. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH: Will the w ill be formulated within the district
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to plana for developing their lot. These
state: programmes are being worked out by
the State Governments for imple
(a) whether any schemes were fina mentation iQ the Fifth Plan period.
lised on 18th March, 1973 for giving
a new turn to Kashmir's economy; and
(b ) if so, the main features thereof’ Development o f Tribal Ireas during

Fifth Plan
THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OP PLANNING (SHRI 8817 SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO:
MOHAN D H A R IA )* (a) and (b ). The Will the Minister of PLANNING be
Minister for Works and Development. pleased to state:
Jammu and Kashmir and the Union
Minister for Planning had an informal (a) whether in the approach to the
meeting on 18th o f March, 1973 and Fifth Five Year Plan reliance has been
discussed, besides other matters, some placed on general sector for develop
proposals regarding improvement of ment of tribal areas;
living conditions, training o f carpet
weavers in Srinagar and also problems (b> whether under the Minimum
o f agricultural development in the Needs Programme the actual require
Jammu region. ment o f the tribal areas is proposed to
be taken care of: and
Devetopnfast of Tribals ottadde the (c ) the proposed outlay tor tribal

Tribal Development Blocks and Pilot areas under the Minimum Needs Pro
Projects gramme in the Fifth Five Year Plan?
8816. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

Minister of PLANNING be pleased to MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRl
state* MOHAN DHARIA): (« ) Yes; Sir. I»
(a) whether there is any proposalthe Fifth Plan, the strategy of deve
with the Governm ent to take up any lopment o f tribal areas places emphasis
scheme for th e development o f tribals on the role o f the gfeMVtfi ettdtor *»
outside the tribal development blocks providing m ajor development pro*
and pftof projects; grammes.
V
10 $ Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 106
(b ) Yes, Sir. The schemes and pro- in lieu of the capacity allowed to be
grammes to be taken up under the shifted by M /s. Incheks.
National Minimum Needs Programme
'Will benefit both tribal and other areas.
Short le r m Employment Scheme* for
<c) The requirements o f State Gov West Bengal
ernments under various sectors uncer
the Minimum Needs Programme in the
Filth Plan are presently under dis 8819. SHRI B. K. DASCHOW-
cussion with them. DHURY: Will the Minister of PLAN
NING be pleased to state:
Issue o f Industrial Licence for New
Tyre Factory to be set up in a State (a) whether Government of West
other than West Bengal Bengal have sent to the Centre several
schemes of short-term employment
8818. SHRI B. K. DASCHOW- for the current financial year;
DH URY: Will the Minister of INDUS
TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCI (b) if so, the outlines of the schemes
ENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased and the amount required for the cur
to state; rent financial year and the next finan
cial year; and
(a) whether a new tyre company has (c) the amount so far sanctioned
not been given industrial licence to and when the balance amount will be
establish factory in West Bengal, but sanctioned to the Government of West
the same company has been allowed Bengal?
to set up a factory in another State;
and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
(b ) if so, the reasons therefor? MOHA n DHARIA): (a) Yes, Sir.
(b) These schemes have been formu

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL lated in pursuance of the decision of
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND the Government o f India to create
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- half a million jobs for the educated
MANIAM): (a) and (b). M /s. Inchek unemployed during the current year
Tyres o f India Ltd., Calcutta, were The proposals relate to self-employ
granted an Industrial Licence dated ment programmes, training schemes,
the 16th October, 1969 for effecting studies and surveys, subsidised emp
substantial expansion in their Calcutta loyment schemes, etc. The financial
factory by 3 lakh nos. each of auto commitments so far as these schemes
mobile tyres and tubes per annum. are concerned are confined to the
They could not implement this expan current year.
sion licence in Calcutta itself because
of persistent labour troubles. They, (c) The State Government has been
therefore, requested that they may be advised that Rs. 10.82 crores would be
permitted to implement this expansion made available to them for the conti
licence by setting up a new factory nuing programmes for educated un
at Rai Bareilly (U.P.). Government employed Special Employment
have approved o f this in August 1972. Schemes and the Crash Scheme for
A Letter o f Intent dated the 8th Sep Rural Employment which were intro
tember, 1972 has also been granted to duced in 1971-72. In addition, the State
the West Bengal Industrial Develop Government has been advised that they
ment Corporation for setting up a new could work, within a tentative ceiling
unit in the State o f West Benge! with o f Rs. IS crores under the Half a
a capacity o f 4 faftfas nos. each of Million Jobs Programmes fo r the
automobile tyres end tubes per annum current year.
io 7 Written Answers M AY 2, 1073 Written A n n o m l0 g
Newt Report Becmrdlac “Bectexilcs

Swindle" Sflp | fa fr ft l*
«nw f& r v h n m fi t
8820. SHRI B. K. DASCHOW-
** ©crnr k w i
DHURY; W ill the Minister of
EU0CTRONICS be pleased to state:
t ^ w»nnr 20 srf^nr v t fort v t
(a) whether Government have
W'4fc«i f%HT TOIT *fT I
noticed a report in the Economic Times
of 25th March, 1973 on Electronics
Swindle: and 1 9 4 9 -5 0 (tffaTCT
*r w f t *mrsrt * t w r 468 *nar
(b ) if so, the reasons for not refer
ring the case to the C.B.I. «TC, f^ r ft TOFT v t
23 5 STHJ ^ «P T 64STW
MINISTRY OP HOME AFFAIRS iflfipF 7?r iftr *RT w n v t 1 6&
(SHRI K. C PANT): (a) Yes, Sir. w *tt i vr
(b ) Since the report does not contain ^TTt % t f s f t WTC 1 9 7 1 - 7 2 %

any specific complaint against any
5 t r * r* ft i R R t ^ qpr ^ n r s ’T
particular party, the question o f r t f er
ring the case to the C.B.I. does not 936 i *s*r
arise.
*f ^ttw , ^ fftr ?R r iR n r t qrr
WTOfoPT $ «PTT*T STTOTsft gwrwsT v r s r 42 7 ^rar
Vlft % «n 265 *rpsr *ftr
*fzt iPrnri ^nr 244 ^rra- 4)Pj.«*t s «t

88 2 1 . . W
«rr i *pm vw $ m fr
*3 ^r?TT'T f t HIT T O
faER 20 3Rt '<% ^fTFF wrrfsrn
f*T
jRFfr r> q'frnrnr^Ri ?nmfT
(m ) t t t % ir w •3rqr=5H ^ q ilil ?1 W ^ I
% if W 5PF fsppft srsrHT} W T 5RT3TT * ft 3 n af^TT t *?%
*rrt fa^rtr jrnrcrm TTfq JT)T f^rsnt Shi f t ?Tf ?TWtn
«P" RTFT *fi?T WT Srpqfrr-f.Tr CT ^ T O T TFTT Trffn 1
(«*) t-T, <rr w r irrsnmn *r <TTH?ft q ^ f N tftSPTT % 5ff?T XT

s M % ^rnir msr ir?r *? *rraro7 crr^r *9rraT5ft ■aPircft 1400
tfr sw> frt* vTF3 HT?Ft % f^Tnr TO>TT ?T
frfqr af^rnpr w fr n n f ^
(V ) *T, TT W F W
W 7 ^1^1 *RT 3TPTr % ^THWr
fm M fa fw t >
im ^tSRT % WV*1 <T?% f t
iftv m *pnm % t w («rt f? rfw *»r*r
«T T fw ) : (V ) 3 (* ). ^ n fn r frR T ^nfrm 1 1
10$ Writt«n Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers n
(East and West) in Bihar are not

im fk m w ff giving satisfactory service, and trunk
lines remain paralysed;
to r ^far w r iwnwr (b) whether he had given an assu
jp n r fiN rance to set the telephones in order by
June, 1972; and
(c) whether in spite of his assurance
8822- nft fa s fa f a * : *TT
the telephones are not yet set right;
*v=Tr ^ *r?r snrft aft and if so, the reasons therefor?
sn r *>T*r f a :
THE MINISTER OF COMMUNI
CATIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA)'
(IT) *TT TTT JTT SWTTtrr f % (a) Some complaints regarding un
* fe > sr*TTT9T trpff satisfactory working of telephone
connections had been received and the
^ TT f^TF % m^T % ^ ITFrt *ftr
same were attended to promptly. No
*rrr % t f t a 'j f y * iflr complaints regarding trunk lines
ITT STT% ; tfV remaining paralysed have been
received.
(* j) * f ? ?tt, art t ? r * n ^ r h t ^ t t (b ) No such asurance was givem

sftt s ft fw T t ?
(c) The question does not arise.
stotto *nrm * if w h f t
fa?f) (*r) 16008 Illegal Trunk Calls made by a
trff^T t f e f t *% m *rrr?r ?tct Trader from a Telephone Pole in
Delhi
faf^F- % srTTft
*?r s-m fa* sr*rrrcr ? m s r r ^ tt
8824 SHRI FURUSHOTTAM KA-
$ i ;t t F r % farrr irsrm r fra f a y
KODKAR
^ a r r s fr ^t *tt*t I t t t fts ft SHRI P. M MEHTA-
•ftT VHWI! % raf*TTCt ^ swifcd
Will the Minister of COMMUNICA
apt arwft £ l
TIONS be pleased to state
(»sr) fasn* l ? [ w ror (a) whether Go\ernment’s attention

has been drawn to a Press Report m
mt % wrrr * ttt ^ %
the TimPs of Indta of 6th April. 1973
SFfTRt TTW tfT3RT ^ W rfj^ regarding 16000 tr 'nk calls illegallv
nr Pnrrr ftrqr srr t&t f; i made by a trader from a telephone pole
m Delhi, and
(b) whether any investigations have

Telephone Service in Champar&n been made and if so. the findings there
District of an^ the action taken in the matter?
8823. SHRI BIBHUTI MISHRA W ill THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-

the Minister o f COMMUNICATIONSTIONs (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA): (a)
be pleased to state: Yes- Sir
(a) whether Government have (b ) The matter has been reported

received reports that the telephone to the Police and their investigation U
connections installed a t Champaran under way.
in Written Amwert MAY 2, 1873 Write** Answers m
tTi U d s t S
p pM w la
- - ------- ^ n rrm ra pur Dfetatet o f Aasara were attaaked
by tw o young tribal boys o l Kimia. one
8825. SHRI PRUSHOTTAM KAKOD- of whom was armed with a ttao (a
1CAB: kind m toatcbete). As a result seven
SESS V. M. MBHTA: boys died.
(b ) Tw o persons have been arrest
W ill the Minister o l HOME AFFAIRS ed.
(c) N o instance ©f supply o f arms
(a) the total number o f vehicles to Dallas from China has come to
stolen in Delhi during March, 1973; notice so far.
<*>) how many ol them have been
Meeting o f Licenstaf Committee
recovered; and
8827. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM ItA-
(c ) the number of persons arrested
KODKAR:
in this regard*
SHRI P. M. MEHTA:
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister o f INDUSTRIAL
MINISTRY OP HOME AFFAIRS DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
(SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) 106. TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state
(b ) 71. (a) whether a meeting of the full
(c ) 14. Licensing Committee consisting of offi
cials of Central and State Govern
ments was held at New Delhi on the
KU U PC of School Boys by Dafla 24th March, 1973, and
Tribesmen in North Lakhimpur (b ) if so, the subject discussed at
the meeting’
8826. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM
KAKODKAR:
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
SHRI P. M. MEHTA:
NIAM) (a) Yes, Sir.
Will the Minister of HOME (b) A statement o f subjects discus
AFFAIRS be pleased to state: sed at the meeting is attached.
(a) whether Dafla Tribesmen in Statement
Assam have started creating terror m
the State and killed six boys o f a school 1. Licensing Policy, February, 197*8.
picnic party in North Lakhimpur town
on the 4th April, 1073; 2 The Role o f the State Industrial
Development Corporations, their pro*
(b) if so. the number o f persons
grammes and problems.
arrested in This regard; and
(c) whether these tribals are getting 3. Industrialisation of Backward

arms from China? Areas.
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 4 Guidelines for the formulation ot

MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS the Fifth Five Year Plan by the States
(SHRI F. H. MOHSIN) ■ (a) No terror and Union Territ© ne»~Ler*e and
as such has been created by the Dafla Medium Industries and Minerals.
Tribesmen. In an incident on 4th 5. Cement Industry in the State Sec
April, 1073, near Kimin in Subansiri tor.
District o f Arunachal Pradesh some
boys w ho had * *»e for picnic from & Requests r e c e iv e frain the State
Dhakuafchaaa School in North T jiv k w . <8ew»tanMnts for recottsMeratfcm ° f
* 1$ Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 114
the applications which were considered (b ) -if go. theaction taken or pro-
by the sub-committee of the Licensing posed to be taken to check this prac-
Committee duripg the period 14-8-1872tice; and
to etc., laid on the ta b le of
the House. {Placed in Library. See (c ) whether Government have re*
No. LT-4936/73J. ceived representations urging them to
eliminate the middie men i.e., the
dealers from this industry so that the
Different Prices of Tyres and Tubes consumer could be saved from exploi
tation, if so, the action being taken in
8828. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: W in the this regard?
Minister o f INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
LOGY be pleased to refer to the reply DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
given to Unstarred Question No. 4004 TECHNOLOGY(SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
on the 21st March, 1973 regarding the NIAM ); (a) to (c). Government have
quality of tyres and tubes and state received a complaint about the tyre
the reasons why the prices of tyres manufacturers flooding certain areas
and tubes made by different Companies with truck and bus tyres which are
are the same when the quality o f no not in demand and starve other areas
two makes is identical and what Gov where these tyres are in demand re*
ernment propose to do in this regard? suiting in the dealers selling the tyres
in such areas at high premium. Under
THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL the existing arrangements the tyre
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND companies meet the requirements of
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- Defence, State Transport Undertakings,
Original Equipment Manufactures,
NIAM): Though the quality o f tyres
Cooperative Societies and Fleet owners
produced by different companies may
having 10 vehicles or more directly.
not be identical, they compare well
with each other. Government have The balance o f about 50 per cent of
licensed substantial additional capacity the production o f tyre companies is
which when created will introduce released by the manufacturers for sale
through their dealers in the various
more competition and more scope for
consumer preference. consuming areas. The dealers ore re
quired to sell these tyres in accord
ance with the orders issued by the
Selling of Truck and Bus Tyreg at State Governments, wherever such
Premium by Tyre Dealers as a result orders are issued by the local Gov
ef artificial shortage created by 1>re ernments under the powers delegated
Manufacturers to them under the Essential Commo
dities A c t
8829. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: Will the

Minister o f INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP Habeas Corpus Petition from Visakha-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO pataam Jail to Catentta High Coart
LOGY be pleased to state: Returned by JP & T Department
(a) whether Government are aware 8830. SHRI & M. BANERJEE: Will
that the tyre manuTaeturers have a the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be
tendency %p flood certain areas with pleased to state:
such sizes or sizes of truck arid bus
tyres which are not in demand awd (a) whether a habeas corpus petition
starve otfc$r areas where these sixes sent from Vtshakhapatnam Jail to the
are mucl> popular and that as a conie- Calcutta High Court b ? one of the
<juemi* <tea!eirs sftU tyres at heavy pre detenus .Shri KanuSanyal, theNaxalite
mium; leader, was returned twice by the Peats
1 X5 Written Answers MAY 2, \m Written Answers ji6
and Telegraphs Department with the Breweries functtonin* lit ttfe eowntry
remarks '‘addressee not traceable”
(b ) whether this was brought to the ' 8S31. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN:
notice o f Government by Shri B. K. Witt the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
Garg, a Supreme Court lawyer, and DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state.
(c) if 80, whether any investigation
has been made and if so, with what (a) the total number of breweries
results? in the country, State-wise, their loca
tions and the licensed capacity of
each of them;
THE MINISTER OF COMMUNI
CATIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA)
(a) Yes 2 registered letters sent by (b ) whether Government are aware
Superintendent Central Jail Visha- that most of these breweries are pro
khapatnam to the Registrar Calcutta ducing more than their licensed capa
High Court were returned with re city;
marks “ not properly addressed hence
not known” . (c ) whether they have sought ex
pansion licences and if so, the extent
(b) No to which they have been granted ex
pansion m each case, and
(c ) There are two Registrars in Cal
cutta High Court, One on tne Original (d) if not, the steps taken or pro
Side and the other on the Appellate posed to be taken against the defaul
Side The letters meant fo r the ters7
Registrar, Original Side are received
m the Receiving Section of the High THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
Court while those meant for the DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
Appeallate Side are received in the THCHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA-
Central Despatch Section The regis MANIAM) (a) The total number of
tered letter dated 11 10 72 o f Waltair Breweries which are m operation in
RS post office was addres.sed to the the country is 11 The names of the
Registrar, Hifih Court o f Judicature Breweries their Location Statewis^
Calcutta and the registered letter dated Licensed / registered capacity are
10 11 72 of Lalitha Colony (Vishakha- given m the attached statement.
patnam) post office was addre fed to
the Registrar, Calcutta High Court (b) No Sir Only two B r e w e r s
Both those letters were issued to Ihe are repotted to be producing Beer in
concerned postman for delivery Th*s<* exoes* of th lr licer ea <. ip ru h
letters' were duly presented to the
officials o f Receiving Section and Cen
tral Despatch Section by the postman (c) and (d) Yes. Sir One of th<*m
As the officials of the Sections did not has applied for expansion licence
accept the letters they were returned No decision has however, been taken
to the G P.O by the Postman with the in this case so far.
remarks “ not properly addressed hence
not known” . They were reissued the The general question o f Industr*nl
next day to Overseer Postman who Units whose production has exceeded
also having tned and failed to effect their licensed capacity will have to
delivery returned them to the G P O be c'Jmidered by the Government, in
endorsing the earlier remarks by the the light o f Sarkar Commission's
concerned postman. Thereafter the recommendations to be submitted
letters were returned to the sender. after enquiry into this matter.
117 Written Answers VAibAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers nS
Statement
Statement showingthenamisofthe Breweries their locationStautotse Licensed!
RegisteredCapacity :
Annual
capacity
SI. Name of the firm Location'State licensed/
No. registered
in KL
X M';s. Mohan-Meakio Breweries . Mohan NagarfUP) 4091

2 M's. Mohan Goldwater Breweries. . Lucknow(UP) 5000
3 M's. Narang Breweries . Nawabganj Gonda 2500

(UP)
4 M's. Mohan Meakin Breweries . Solan( Himachal 5455

Pradesh)
5 M's. United Breweries 8183

6 M/s. Bangalore Breweries Bangalore (Mysore) 5000
7 M's. Ruttonjee & Co. Ltd. Calcutta (West) 3*73

Bengal)
8 M s. Pilsner Breweries 5ooo
9 M's. Associated Breweries . 2000
10 M s. Dewans Modem Breweries Ltd. . Jammu (Jammu & 2340
Kashmire)
ii M's. Lila S o n s ...................................... 4000

Pradesh)
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a* V * Appointments to various categories ef

Steff Artistes by All India R aiie,
1 Lucknow
*T$ *TWWIT 3f («ft ffS o 8835 SHRI B, S. BHAURA Will

the Minister o f INFORMATION AND
^RW ) : ( V ) Q f t r " ’> 7 "
BROADCASTING be pleased to state
$*rcr t n p % r ^ w r 7 ^ | <mr*rc?r
% q^ rqr w f t ^rrcnfr 1 (a) whether appointments in the

vanous categories oI staff artistes were
made in the year 1971-72 at AU India
Radio, Lucknow and if so, the num
ber of persons selected for vanous
jobs and their qualifications,
fm r n iy w w w r if wnr
<b) who were the members o f the
WHW
Selection Committee, and
(c) how many relations of the All

8834. tft j w w m m India
• Radio employees were appointed
m *N tt *rcft f r o r f c f s r s m r THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE

Sr iqrnr 3t vwrfara 2 9 ® rw < , MINISTRY O F INFORMATION AND
1 9 7 2 % nftreff o r v m m m 2275
BIR SINHA)- (a) to (c) A statement
% % ^nwparir«nr w r f t t i t w n
giving the required information is
***** • attached.
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Rowdyism at VithalWui Fatal House,

New Delhi * (w ) ^ % faa% w r r f t
8836. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU:

WU1 the Minister o f HOME AFFAIRS
be pleased to state: m t if
(a ) whether row dy elements stay x m w f t («ft x m fa r m ftnrf) :
ing in the quarters o f Vithalbhai (« f) %5st * «n$r
Patel House are creating trouble and
harassing people w ho go to milk
booth for buying milk; s r w * r fte n ^ > r ft, t f w r
(b ) whether on' 2nd April, 1973 97 ,4 3 7 f I

o n e person was beaten and had to be
rushed to hospital; («r) T& m m %
(c ) whether on information police r s w * % s im tv fa r ft
arrived and recorded the complaint;
«pt »R vrtt vM t m
(d ) if so, the action taken in the
matter against those responsible for
snrta ^77% qz % ift* z *r-
beating etc.; and q7 «u vcm qrranr
(e) steps being taken to prevent f a r tfr,
such happenings m Vithalbhai Patel % fm , f^ t % # 1 IrPTfTT
House Milk Booth, Rafl Marg, New
Delhi? ^ns f f t 1 s?r n m 5R5J
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ffaT t fa WFnfT/f^RT*ft
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS* % f3R% f^roft <
(SHRI F H. MOHSIN) (a) No such
f^ t *r fanr t?T P
complaint has come* to notice
(b) Yes, a quarrel took place at the s w f^rnrr 31 - 3 - 1 9 7 2 t t vs
milk booth near Vithalbhai Patel House 4 4 8 ? > n f^ IR fa W 3 1 -3 -
©n 2.4 1973 resulting in injury to one 1971 359 I
person.
(c) Yes.
fd) A ca&e under Section .>25 IPC Sub~poJicar for Machinery Induglrx
was registered at the Police Station, within the Frame-work o f Govera-
Parliament Street, New Delhi, which raent‘8 Industrial Policy
is pending investigation
8838 SHRI BANAMALI PATNAIK:
(e) Vigilance by the best patrolling
sljJF is being maintained and constable DR. H. P. SHARMA
is being detailed daily at the milk Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
booth at the time of distribution of DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
milk m the morning and evening TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state
frmfartf * fa # mr sw>*r (a) whether a sub-policy 15 proposed
to be formulated by his Ministry loi
s s 37. a rfoaft ww : the machinery industry within the
m «T?r m f m snrr* overall frame-work o f Government’s
industrial policy to ensure that capital
far
goods requirements are met speedily
and from Indian sources;
srf^ fr r t w tf rift *rm
(b ) if so, the salient features
f a 8^ f ip: mwn thereof; and
V r *W TtfW- wk &
(c) the stage at which the proposal
stand* at present?
125 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1395 {SAKA) Written Answers 126
THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Extension of T.V. in Fifth Plan

TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- 8840. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY:
MANIAM); (a) to (c). In order to SHRI M. S. SANJIVI RAO:
utilise available indigenous capacity Will the Minister o f INFORMATION
for the fabrication of industrial AND BROADCASTING be pleased to
machinery, ensure speedier deliveries state:
and to avoid unnecessary imports, (a) whether the schemes to extend
Government have evolved a “ sub- the Television net work in the country
policy” for machinery industries within during the Fifth Plan have by now
the overall framework o f the Industrial been finalised;
Policy. The formulation of this policy (b) if so, the main outlines thereof;
has taken into account the versatility
and
of many of the manufacturing facilities
in machinery industries and an essen (c) the estimated cost of the
tial ingredient is the constant upgrad schemes?
ing of design capabilities. A condition
is now being imposed in suitable cases, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
in letters of intent, that the applicant MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
should set up facilities for a design BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM
organisation and submit details of the BIR SINHA): (a) Not yet, Sir.
same to the technical authority con (b) and (c). Do not arise.
cerned before conversion o f the letter
of intent into an industrial licence. A
Import of Foreign Know-how for
group of technical experts has also been
Manufacture of Tyres and Tubes in
set up to examine the question c f
Mysore
constituting a Central Bureau of
Design Data, work out a comprehensive 8841. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PAS-
list of gaps in designs and drawings WAN: Will the Minister of INDUS
facilities and also to consider the TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCI
manner in which design engineering ENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased
firms and fabricators, can be given to state:
necessary supporting assistance to
enable the indigenous manufacture of (a) whether Government have decid
larger varieties of equipment. ed to allow a Mysore entrepreneur to
invite foreign collaboration and import
know-how for the manufacture of tyres
Government also consider that the and tubes; and
utilisation of indigenous machinery (b) if so, the reasons for revising
capacity can be speeded up by initia the earlier decision on the subject?
ting a system of tripartite consulationa
among manufacturers o f end-products, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
machinery manufacturers and the DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
Government. Instructions have been TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA-
issued to the concerned officers to take MANIAM): (a) and (b). A party
recourse to such tripartite discussions from Madras has been issued a le tte r
more frequently. of Intent to set up a new unit in
Mysore for the manufacture o f auto
mobile tyres and tubes with a capa
In order to have a clearer picture city of 4 lakh Nos. each per annum
as to the capacity available in various and their proposal for foreign colla
engineering industries. Government boration with M /s. Techno Export of
have initiated a survey o f capacities in Czechoslovakia has also been approved
engineering industry through the by Government Government have not
National Industrial Development revised any o f their earlier decision
Corporation. as foreign collaboration Is considered
necessary and is beingpermitted for (a) whether Government propose
tlu» 61 autotttobile tyres :to. consider the: question of making -
and tabes. studies si£ rfcgu$r interval* on &e
performance and potentialities ol in
AssUrtaiK* to fife** for Mini-
dustries;
needs fttgtatiftte during fifth
I*Imi (b) whether there is any proposal
under consideration to provide guid
8642. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA:
ance for new investors in creating
SHRI RAJDEO SINGH:
additional ‘ capacities in existing in
wm the Minister of PLANNING
dustries or promoting newer lines of
production; and
(a) whether Planning Commis
(c) if so, the broad outlines there
sion is considering a special pattern of of?
central assistance to States for imple
menting1 the minimum needs pro THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
gramme in the Fifth Five Year Plan DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
to ensure that the funds do not get TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SU fiRA
diverted for other purposes; and MANIAM): (a) to (c). Government
(b) if so, the main features there consider that the orderly creation o f
of? capacities during the Fifth Plan will
be facilitated, if the industries in
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE which capacities are needed are perio
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI dically identified and published for
MOHAN DH ARIA): <a) Yes. Sir. the information o f entrepreneurs. It
<b) The matter is yet under con is, therefore, proposed to indicate the
sideration. scope for licensing in different indus
tries through a detailed industry-wise
Fifth Plan Scfeemes for expansion of review every year and bring out annu
Mass Communication Media al licensing guidelines, which w ill not
8843. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will only list the specific industries but
the Minister of INFORMATION AND also endeavour to provide information
BROADCASTING be pleased to state- as to the status of the industry and
the preferred economic size, technolo
(a) whether the Fifth Plan Schemes
gy, location and other considerations
fo r the expansion of the mass com
which will govern licensing decisions
munication media have been finalised;
in particular industries. This Infor
and
mation, it is hoped will Drovide the
(b) if so, the main features thereof? necessary guidance, particularly to
new entrepreneurs, to frame their in
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE vestment intentions realistically and
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND put in applications which will be accep
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM table to Government and are capable
BIR SINHA): (a) The schemes to be of being processed speedily.
included in the Fifth Plan are still
under consideration. Rehabilitation of Xmrba and
Saltga Tribal* In Mysore
(b) Does not arise.
8845. SHRI C. K. JA lT E R
M e t on Performance and Potentia SHARIEF:
lities of Industries
SHRI DHARAMRAO AF2AL-
8844. SH2U C. K. JAFFER PURKAE:
SHARIEF:
SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will the Minister of HOME
AFFAIRS be pleased to state:
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT A llfc SCIENCE AND (a) Whether Govferttwiiint am aware
TECHNOLOGY be pleated to *tat«: that some Tribal Groups Wfe facing
129 W rittm Amwers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 130
the problem of survival and are being of India has extended the period of
deprived of their traditional occupa reconstitution o f Khadi and Village In
tions of shifting cultivation and food dustries Board vide its Notification
gathering in forests; and No. 6(2)/73~KVI(I) dated 30th March,
1973, with the same members as notifi
(b) if so, the steps Government
ed in the Government o f India Noti,
have prooosed for the lehdbihtation of
ficdtion No B(2)/72-K VI(I; dated 24th
those Jenu Kurbu and Saliga Tribal*
No.em fxr, 1972, for a further period
in Mysore?
upto 'ilst March, 1074
THE DEPUTY MI\TiS iE K IN 'I HE (M and (c) Do not arise
(SHRI F H. MOHSIN) (a) Some
tribal communities livirg at the fru’t Two-tier System of Controlled proces
gathering and shifting cultivation for Capital Intensive Industries
stage are experiencing some difficul
ties for various reasons. The Govern 8847 DR II P SHARMA- Will the
ment a w a 'f of this ^pneril pro- M nistei of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
blem 1 Ai\D SCi£L\CE AND TECH
NOLOGY be pleased to stale
(b) A number of colonies for set
(a) wnether Government have of
tling Jenu Kurba and Sahga tribals
lato t een considering the introduction
have l>een set ud under the Tribal
ot d two-tier s^ stem ot controlled
Welfare Programme Economic de
puces for capital intensive industries,
velopment schemes have )>een intro
duced and ashram schools have been <b) if so the circumstances necessi
established It is proposed to inten tating the introduction of the two-tier
sify these steps during the Fifth Five astern, an i
Year Plan and to introduce a special
(c) the outlines of the decision taken
Centrally sponsored scheme for the
in tms regard7
economic and social unlift of these
(ommuniiies THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
Constitution of New Board of Khadi TECHNOIOGY (SHRI C SUBRA-
and Village Industries Commission MANIAM) (a) to (c). Various
8846 SHRI VEKARIA measures necessary to effectively bring
SHRI G P. YADAV a1,out stability m prices are under
constant review and study by the Gov
W ill the Minister of INDUSTRIAL ernment Ho\ê\er no decision has
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND been taken l>y Government to intro
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state- duce a two-tier system of controlled
prices
(a) when the new Board of the
Khadi and Village industries Commis
sion is likely to be reconstituted; Inflow of Foreign Money into India
(b) whether while setting u d the 8Ki8 SHRI S! IANKER RAO SA
new Board Government propose to VANT Will the Minister of HOME
drop some Members who had been con- AFFAIRS be pleased to state:
tmuing on the Board for the last more
ia) whether foreign countries are
than one term m rotation and infuse
spending money m India for political
new member*., and
and philanthropical purposes,
(c) if not, the reasons therefor?
(h) if so, which are these countries
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and what amounts were spent by them
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DE during 1970-71, 1971-72 and 1972-73
VELOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAH- and who are the recipients of such
MAN ANSARI): (a) The Government a nounts
557 LS—-5.
I3i #ritfen AavWtfv M A Y % 4979 *3*
<c) whether £oniM nl«« r e s t o r e d in

iv ) m fr
foMUEH countries w e mending any
amounts lo r political and philanthropi- tw r # it f $ irfta r
ca l purpose*; and * *rr vtSt m fosn r
(d) if so, which are these compa- I t

nie» and what amounts have been
spent by them during 1970-71, 1971-72
and 1972-73 and who are the recipients ^ W fW * W flft
of such amounts? ( v ) fflT ( * ) .
<TPJj'5rt % K? *ww
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ^ w *r ^ sNr %
(SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) to <d). foifa i % ^ ^ « r t sitff % srar
Government are aware that individuals
and organizations have been m receipt
20 wptfi,
o f funds from foreign countries. In
the absence o f any legal obligation on 5TT9T % Tf$f *f|T Tl^r«r-q-
their part either to disclose informa
tion or to maintain and submit for % % OT ft «fT I UMT
scrutiny accounts of expenses, It is not si^r *rnpn' % snftn % ^
possible to furnish anj precise infor
*r tnp w fr fnr
mation regarding the Quantum of re
ceipts from foreign countries or ftn w ftpErr &
amounts spent by different leeipients. %ft % <5Tqf^figr ^TT
In this connection, a reference is* in
vited to the statement made by the âpt % * f£ m ifH ftPTT
Home Minister on 14th Mav, 19G9 in n fe m t o & ifr
the House. In regard to the u p ort of
the Intelligent e Bureau on th_ u o ol
w ?r sraw crnw r faftiT %
foreign moriej I êgislatn e p* nôsals m *r frm 7 7 T fr *r t ?
are being formulated for the purpose ^ R t s r *r vrsr fctrr srrîi in w r
o f imposing suitable restrictions- on
the rece pt of funds from foreign fa^rr n ^ 1 1
organizations, agencies or individuals
otherwise than m the course of ordi
nary and bonafide transactions and a
Bill is likely to be introducer! in Par
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<?<r*r t?- rg=t ?rl 1 1 [v p ^ r m % ^ t
n il ^ fw ^ su t L T — / 73 ] Supply ol Raw Material ete., to liidus-
tries on Priority Basis
fir^fr i r ^ ? r ^ «*RT«rr aptfofa
2RT% T5R % f^TH- m fTfZft
8852 SHRI MA1IADEEPAK SINGH
^ ?FFT t *TfT sa^rsn SHAKYA Will the Minister o f IN
*T t^rfa qr ^n* -nfr ^rpft t sfcr DUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
SI IENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
ITOT fa r* rr fwm jftTT h pleased to slate
U ) whethei Government have taken

the respon&imilty of providing e&ten-
firfsft ^ ^ w«rfw f«<rr%*f1f sttt t.al material to industries o f private
sector on priority basis, and
w a srw r % «wftr w**r*
wrw v w i (b> if so, whether Government will
provide essential things like finances,
rare raw material and foreign ex*
8 8 5 1 . «ft V I WTOTt : W change to the small industries also on
priority basis7
w t ^ 5rtt% *pV fitrr ^ r fa
(* ) w t f*TsrTT % w rdr * TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBHA-
^ fm fa ff *W f*5*ft «Tf*W * MANIAM) (a) The policy for import
of raw materials-which is eauallv ap
^ rr f^ t ^ voW t q fa ffw r
plicable to industries in the private
ft^TPT^fr w f t % f«RT and the public sectors-—is spelled out
135 Written Answers M AY % 1973 Written Answers 136
in the Import Trade Control Policy (c) The delay in the commissioning
lor 1073-74* copies o l which are avail oi the first unit ol the MAPP is partly
able in the Library o l the House, due to time taken in the effort to
wherein lacility for providing raw obtain credits to cover the foreign ex
materials is given on a "need-based” change component ol expenditure in
basis to priority industries, and in volved in setting up this unit, and
terms of entitlements already estab partly due to efforts made to manu
lished in the past lor non-priority in facture equipment in India to the
dustries. maximum extent possible. The second
unit of MAPP was sanctioned only in
(b) Import of raw materials for May, 1971.
small scale units in the priority in
dustries is on par with the policy for National Productivity Council’s Sche
large scale industries wherever the re mes for Fuel Economy known as
quirements are known and small scale “Total Energy Concept”
units specifically apply for such re
quirement, in terms of capacity asses 8854. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH:
sed. For non-priority small scale Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
units, import of raw materials is gov DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
erned by a lormula pertaining to TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
their entitlement as laid down in the
Import Policy. Financial assistance (a) whether the National Producti
to small scale units is provided liberal vity Council has put forward a scheme
ly under various schemes by com for fuel economy known as “ total
mercial banks, State Financial Corpo enorjjy com-ept*';
rations, and other agencies specially
designated for providing assistance to (b) if so, Government'* reaction
the small scale sector. thereto;
(c) whether Government consider it

Commissioning o f KalpaJtkam Atomic feasible to apply to concept in public
Power Plant sector Undertakings; and
8853. SHRI M. R. LAKSHMINARA- (d) if not. the reasons therefor?

YANAN; Will the Minister of ATOMIC
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TIIE
ENERGY b pleased to state:
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DE
(a) when Kalpakkam Atomic Power VELOPMENT (SHRI PRANAB KU
Station in Tamil Nadu is likely to be MAR MUKHERJEE): (a) Yes. Sir.
commissioned;
(b) The N.P.C. is processing the
(b) whether work is progressing as recommendations of the delegation to
per schedule; and the Seminar on ‘Total Energy and
(c) if not, the reasons therefor? Energy Substitution’ held in March,
1973. As soon as they are received by
THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER the Government, due consideration
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER will be given.
INFORMATION AND BROADCAST (c) and (d). Do not arise at this
ING AND MINISTER OF SPACE stage
(SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI): (a)
and (b). The first unit of the Madras Regularlsatton of Break Feriod of
Atomic Power Project (M APP) is ex Government Employees who took part
pected to attain criticality in 1976 and In Freedom Struggle
and the second unit in 1978. Full
commissioning can be expected a lew 8855. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will the
months filter criticality. Work is pro PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state
gressing according to this schedule. (a) whether the issue ol break
137 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 189$ (SAKA) Written Answers 138
period o l service m regard to seniori T IT . fir W fW ^ F T

ty, pension and gratuity lor Govern
ment employees who suffered or got % fa t* S T tffe ’T
penalized lor their participation m «TT*i w t sV srr^ r
freedom struggle and who got re-
employed alter Independence, is yet to
v ft tit * rfa r* r fa fa r 26
be settled; and 1973 *fr ;
(b) if so, the reasons therefor and (5@r) TOT fe r iS R

the action being taken by Government
to finalise the matter? % re qr faq for % fan
m ^ T T R ft % m qr 5 ^ tir
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sta T < iiw t I ;
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON-
NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) (* t) t o t fzztit sm T *H % tite*
(a) and (b). Instructions already exist
to the effect that m the case of G ov
^FT q r f^ T ^ T f^ fr % w r f w r
ernment servants who were removed,
discharged or dismissed from service tit TOT fa tf SHT
on account of their patriotic activities
t. titr
or their participation in national move
ments designed to secure the indepen
dence ol the country, or who resigned (^ ) t ffe fT TOT SR-
their appointments out of patriotic
m otive, or m order to participate tsnfo ? w «r^ fa7r srrf^r irrfa n
in the national movements, on th*jir % *fmt % fat*
re-employment under Government, the % fan; * n W t % *rr*fa n
period o f break would count towards
seniority as service in the grade or srrfe % <r^t trT
post in which the person was employed
before the break, unless there are
special reasons to hold that it would
W5 3v*T ?
rount as service m some other grade
or post. Aq regards pensionary bene
fits in such cases while, according to
timm $ w -m t («ft
existing instructions, the period ol trô : (* } I v 3?
break in service does not count for jMrotfl Ept % fa r Bfrtrr
this purpose, the question whether this
should be allow ed to count for M h trr % rei % 10
pensionary benefits is under considera q < ft a f'T % f^ g - f e f r S IT O I
tion of Government conseouent on a
?r w f fcmrm n ^ jft IV
representation having; been received
recently m this regard. % W T T f n f r SfTrTTTT TT T P fr t H
t a r *TT s f t TTtSTT n
Tftr w % j
(»?) tit ?T , S f f a H I
8S58. sft : TOT
To tit T q rr fa : ( * t ) 3f t sn\ i
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Srfannfar Tfterr v rn n t* 3 faa’rfw «mRrr
139 Written Answers MAY 2, 1973 Written Answer* *40
a wftw r ft <n: f tfte « i$ - (c) if so, the foreign exchange ex*

pected to be earned on its sale to other
^ fs w wrfiwarrfa % s ttfo w f l %- countries during 1973-74?
v a ster i
TIONS (SHRI H. N. PAHUGUNA):
Application for setting up of Indus (a) The Hindustan Teleprinters Ltd.,
tries in Backward Areas of Orissa Madras have developed a Bilingual
Teleprinter Machine.
8839. SHRI ARJUN SETHI: Will the
Minister o£ INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP (b) Yes.
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO
(c) No firm orders have been re
LOGY be pleased to state how many
ceived by the Hindustan Teleprinters
applications for starting industries in
Ltd, yet. As such, it id not possible
the selected backward districts of
to forecast at present the foreign ex
Orissa have been received up to date
change expected to be earned from the
under the concessional subsidy and 10
export of bilingual teleprinter
per cent Central out-right Grant or
machines during 1973-74.
subsidy schemes?
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Decision to vest powers under Com-

MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DE mission of Inquiry Act to the Facta
VELOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAH Finding Committee on eoonmnics of
MAN ANSARI): As reported bv the
NtewapaiNff
central financial institutions 19 applica
tions for loans under concessional
8861. SHRI R V. SWAMINATHAN:
finance schemes were received from
WiU the Minister of INFORMATION
the backward districts of Orissa upto
AND BROADCASTING be pleased to
31st December, 1972, out of which lb
state
applications have already been sanc
tioned concessional finance worth (a) whether Government have de
Rs. 31.38 lakhs. cided to vest in the fact finding com
mittee set up to enquire into the econo
A s regards 10 per cent Central out mics of the newspaper industry
right grant or subsidy scheme, the powers under the Commision of In
State Government of Orissa have, so quiry Act; if so, the nature o f powers
far. reported that 49 applications have vested in the Committee;
been received/registered by them out
o f which 15 applications have been (b) whether the Committee had
sanctioned a subsidy of approximately issued a questionnaire and the time
Rs. 4,00,000. for replies to them was extended twice
as there was no response from the
bigger newspapers, and
Bilingual Teleprinter Machine Manu>
factored by Hindustan Teleprinter, (c) when the final report o f the
Madras Fact Finding Committee is likely to
be submitted to Government?
8860. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN:
WiU the Minister o f COMMUNICA
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
TIONS be pleased to state;
(a) whether a bilingual teleprinter BIR SINHA); (a) Government have
machine has been manufactured by the invested the Fact Finding Committee
Hindustan Teleprinter, Madras; with powers under the Commissions
of Inquiry Act, 1952, A copy o f the
fb) if so. whether the Teleprinter Gazette notification issued on 26th
machine is in demand In other coun A m e fln st reached hr tedia, with
tries*, and on the Table ot tta* House on 27th
141 Written Antwjr* v*\jSAKHA 1% (SAKA) Written Answers 142
April, 1973. A ll protrillions ol the m and (d). The delegation held dis
aforesaid Act except those ot sub cussions with an Indian delegation
section (1) of section 5 have been which was led by Dr. S. K. Sen, Direc
made applicable to the Committee. tor-General, Indian Standards Institu
tion in these fields. The list con-
(b) Yes, Sir. The Committee issued tives of the various ministries and de
a detailed questionnaire to all daily partments. The draft Soviet and
newspapers in the first week ot Sep Indian proposals for co-operation in
tember 1972. The last date for receipt the field ol standardisation and metro
of replies to the questionnaire was logy were discussed and a list o f pro
October 15, 1972, which was later ex posals was finalised for future coopera
tended, at the request of several tion in these fields. The list con
newspapers and newspaper associa tains five maior areas of cooperation
tions, to November 15, 1972. In spite
of repeated reminders, replies have (a) Standardisation and Quality
not been received from a number of Assurance.
newspapers. Among the defaulters,
there are big, medium as well as small (b) Materology.
newspapers. (c) Exchange of Information and
(c) The Committee has informed Documents.
Government that it will reouire, for (d) Exchange of Delegations. Ex
processing the data and writing; the
perts, Consultants and Lecturers.
report, six months' time from the
date on which sufficient information (e) Training of Experts.
and data have become available.
Executive Bodies in the two coun
tries concerned with these items woulc
Agreement reached by India with work out details of cooperation. This
Soviet Standardisation Experts would be considered by the Working
Group which would be set ud to plan,
8862. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: programme and review the progress o f
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND collaboration. This is likelv to be-
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state* finalised during the visit o f the Indian;
delegation to USSR in August, 1973.
U ) whether a delegation of Soviet
Standardisation experts had been m Percentage of Women Employees in
Inrha on 23rd March, 197^, Central Government
<b) if so, whether the current visit SB63. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH; Will the
wa.x a follow-up o f the Indo-Soviet
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state
agreement on Science and Technology
signed in Mysore; the percentage of women em
(c) if so, what discussions were ployees in the Central Governments
held; and and
(d) the agreements reached? ( b » whether Government have con

sidered to have some special depart
TFTE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL ments exclusively for women?
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MANIAM)- (a) Yes. Sir. A five-mem MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
ber delegation led by Mr. A. M. Niki- IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON
forentao, Vice-Pmident, USSR State NEL: (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA):
Committee lor Standards visited India (a) The percentage o f women to the
during l»~ 2eth March. 1973. total number o f employees in Central
Government, as on 31st March. 1971,.
<b> Yes, Sir. was 2.5.
143 Written Ansrtiri M AY 2, 1973 Written Aw w er* 144
(b) Article 16(2) o f the Constitu (b) the names o f persons out ol
tion o l India provides that no citizen them who have bean granted pensions
shall, on grounds only ol religion, race, and the number ol applications reject
sex, descent, place o l birth, residence ed as also o l those kept pending?
or txc" of thern, he 'roligible for, or
discriminated against in respect ol, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
any employment or office under the MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
State. As such, there has been no (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) 61 appli
occasion to consider the question ol cations have been received till 28th
setting up any special departments April, 1973.
exclusively for women.
<b) Out o l 61, pension has been
sanctioned to 8 persons and their
Selection of Hindustani Classical names are given in the attached state
Music to be relayed over AIR ment. 6 have been rejected and the
number ol cases pending is 47.
8864. SHRI HEMENDRA SINGH:
Will the Minister of INFORMATION Statement
state:
S. No. Name
(a) the names ol members o l the
Committee which selects programmes
to be relayed on the AIR lor Hindus 1. Shn Phool Chand Bihani.
tani classical music; 2. Shri Ramesh Chandra Oiha.
(b) whether they select the Ragas 3. Shn Fateh Sinsh Yadav.
to be relayed according to the time and
season in which they are generally 4. Shn Laiiu Ram Vyas.
sung and played; an<?
5. Jai Pal Smgh alias Akshu
(c) il not. the reasons therefor’ Dutt.
6. Shri Bhawans Shanker Duk-
hit.
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM 7. Shn Ram Chand Vaidya.
BIR SINHA); (a) There is no Com
mittee lor selection o l programmes for 8. Smt. Narayani Devi.
broadcast of Hindustani music over
AIR. The programme*? are planned
and artists booked by the Producers Grant of Indian Citizenship to Refu
m charge o l classical music at the gees from Bangladesh and Pakistan
Stations.
8866. SHRI HEMENDRA SINGH-
(b) The Ragas are selected in con W ill the Minister o f HOME AFFAIRS
sultation with the artists. be pleased to state the rules under
(c) Does not arise. which the refugees from Bangladesh
and from Pakistan can be given citi
zenship o f India and the procedure to
Grant of Pension to Freedom Fighters be adopted by them if they want to
from Bhilyara (Rajasthan) move out from their refugee camps
on humane grounds?
8865. SHRI HEMENDRA SINGH;
Will the Minister o l HOME AFFAIRS
(a) the number o l applications re (SHRI F. HL MOHSIN): Applica
ceived from freedom fighters from tions for citizenship are considered on
District Bhilwara (Rajasthan); and merits under the Citizenship Act,
145 Written A n w m VAISAKHA 12,18*5 (SAKA) Written Answer* H6
2055 and the rules made thereunder. Grant of Pension to Freedom Fighters
Under the existing policy, the refugees from Madhya Pradesh
from Bangladesh w ho came to India
after 25th March, 1971 and those
from Pakistan w ill have to go back 8868. SHRI RANA BAHADUR
to Bangladesh and Pakistan, as the SINGH. Will the Minister of HOME
case may be and, as such, the question AFFAIRS be pleased to state:
o f granting them Indian citizenship
does not arise. Adequate arrange (a) the number of freedom figniers
ments have been made in the camps from Madhya Pradesh, district-wise
to provide medical and educational who have been granted pension by
facilities to the refugees and their Central Government and
ch^dren. Those wanting to move out
(b) the number of freedom Ashlers
of the camps will have to take the
recommended b\ the State Govern
permission of the Labour and Rehabi
ment of Mculhva Pradesh?
litation (Department o f Rehabilitation)
on furnishing an undertaking that m THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
future they will not ask for any relief MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
and rehabilitation assistance from the (SHRI F. II MOHSIN)* (a) Informa
Government. tion is given m the statement laid on
the Table of the House. [Placed m
Library. See No. LT-4<J37/73].
Applications for setting up Industries
in Bhilwara (Rajasthan) (b) The numl)er of cases recom
mended by the State Government up-
8867 SHRI HEMENDRA SINGH: to 28th April. 1973 is 280.
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Development of Bimdelkhand Region
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state.
8869 SHRI R A N A B A H A D U R
SINGH* Will the Minister of PLAN
(a) how many applications are pend
NING be pleased to state;
ing with his Ministry, with the names
of firms and persons who want to start (a) whether Government have get
industries in the backward District of up a Commitlee to study the problem
Bhilwara; and o f development of Bundelkhand re
gion, if so the constitution of this Com
(b ) the names of the industries mittee and it-? terms of reference; and
which have started or have been given
permission to do so after it was (o) the distncts of Uttar Pradesh
and Madhya Pradesh being covered
declared industrially backward?
by this Comnnltlee‘,
THE MINISTER OP INDUSTRIAL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA- MOHAN DHARIA) (a) and (b ). On
MANIAM) • (a) On** application for the suggestion o f the Central Zonal
1972 and three for 1971 are pending. Council made m its meeting held on
Details o f pending applications are July 10. l ‘>72, a Joint Coordination
normally not disclosed. Committee for Bundelkhand Area con
sisting of the officers of Madhva Pra
(b) One licence for setting up a desh and Uttar Pradesh has been set
spinning factory for the manufacture up under the Chairmanship o f a Pro
of cotton y am at Bhilwara has been gramme Adviser of the planning Com
issued during the period 1970 to 1972. mission This Committee will assist
It is understood that effective steps the two States in the formulation erf
to implement this licence have been an integrated plan and strategy of
taken. development for Bundelkhand Area.
147 Written A n m ert H A Y Z, 1973 Written AnM 0m 14 &
The constitution ot the Joint Co ordination Committee is as follows:
Madhya Pradesh Uttar Pradesh
Planning Secretary . Commissioner, Bundelkhand Division*

Jhansi.
Commissioner, SagarDivision, Sagar . Superintending Engineer, Irrigation D e
partment, Lucknow.
Officer on Special Duty Chief Engineer, State Electricity Board,
(E&S, C .M ’i Secretariat) Lucknow.
Additional Chief Engineer, Public Works
Department (Roads), Lucknow.
Commissioner and Planning Secretary,
Planning Department, Lucknow.
The following districts form part o f the Bundelkhand Area:
Madhya Pradekh Uttar Pradesh
S a g a r ....................................... Banda
Teekamgarh . Jhaasi
Chhatarpur • . Hameerpui
Panna • . Jalaun
Damoh
Datia
Delinking of Media of Communications

for de-linkmg newspapers from in
from Big Bosiaess dustnal and business houses are being
examined b\ Government m the light
8870. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH of Supreme Court’s mdgment on news
GARCHA: Will the Minister of IN print policy for 1972-73 and their re
FORMATION AND BROADCASTING cent judgment on the validity o f Con-
be pleased to state; .stitutional Amendments.
(a) whether some measures are be

Increase in prices of Cement
ing devised by Government to delink
all media of Communications, includ
ing the press from bus business, etc.; 8871. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH
and GARCHA Will the Minister of IN
DUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
(b) it so, what prevents the Gov SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY **
ernment from taking necessary steps pleased to state;
immediately? .
(a) whether Government propose to
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE allow an increase in the price of
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND cement in order to enable this indus
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM try to expand and set up additional
BIR SINHA); (a) and (b). Proposals capacity to meet the growing demand;
X49 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1805 (SAKA) Written Answers 150
(b ) if so, the quantum o f proposed (»r) st*ft ftmwrr, 1072 *r $

increase itt prices; aftd
s\ vM *m ^ qsf r nfo ff
(c) whether steps have been taken
% Tf^Clr vi «ft i ?rrete
to ensure that the additional surpluses
actually go towards expansion and in 2 3 -4 -7 3 nrr V fM w i
crease in production? j pfrn W i % TO STFTTar ^ 3TR
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DE sfifkw ftm
VELOPMENT (SHRI PRANAB KU
? ^ ^nrnft l
MAR MUKHERJEB): (a) to (c ). The
question of revision of ex-works price
o f cement is under the consideration
o f Tariff Commission. They have sub fw to r , vteT im
mitted an interim report recommend *rra v r Gmfar
ing an interim increase in price sub
ject to suitable revision in the light
o f the final report o f the Commission. 8873 . sft ifNsir ww irarr •
This is under examination by the
TOT i faftEW fiwrwr *T?ft ??TT^
Government.
^ FH ^ fa :
fHTo ^ ^ (* ) tot fo fa t y ,
vter fsRwr *tft
fw | ;
8872. wfanr :
tot fh n r frqr wr^r (*z) fc?r ^?ff *rr * m m
ftr : fw *rar; tfh:
(v ) TOrirrro ruro t& o u n fa r (*r) <TT?T ^BT 1TFT faqfa

Sr ^ »rofr % yfrm frgf ^ fo*rr w r ?
^ f ,
tfa ftfoF fa rro vmnar ^
m t («ft 5TW $ HTT ^ n f f ) ; ( V )
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#»ft % y frn fq ff itt*t
^TRT5H * qefffiMfrr
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(* ) «rfc??T, ^ apt 5,6 6,000
v H IW ^ TTO vKTT sfr tth W n - fspirr m » Wifcraf ttrt
tot ft ? Jr fe fx v r ix ,
^ % fC T Sfr^TX, % qr
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sst w f ! ^ ^ a r ^ ^ F r t a r srrrft fk fv n iff
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(* ) 1
151 Written Answers MAY 2, 1978 Written Antwerp 152
sttstk *nc ftrRT*r (Selection Grade) in the AH India

Radio, are due to retire from service
ftn r r w t > in the year 1973.*—
1. Shri K. P. Shun^loo, Station

f a f * £ n f t * f *n*ni
Director, All India Radio,
New Delhi.
8874. «ft v fa r r srrar :
2. Shn Gopal Das, Director of
w r tfsrtfn * 3Rn% ^ Programmes .(Policy), Diree-
fr r fa : torateGeneral. All India
Radio, New Delhi.
( it) y s ffj^ itw r w t ^fr 3. Shri Romesh Chander, Director
*rarrt fcr *r ^ ft*rer | ; *frt Television (Satellite), Direc
torateGeneral, All India
Radio. New Delhi.
(w ) w v r w t *f?r siwrcfr *rt
4. Shri Ashfaq Hussain, Station
w r *rv f* F i% yf^ f'S fd' ^ * f f ^ W ctt ft
Director, All India Radio,
ir ii ? Bombay.
sftsftfrw f r o m if
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8877. far* f* !T STTFSft :
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Selection Grade Station Directors («r) w *nNpR % n

Retiring in 1073
vr# t f k s r f^ ^ t.c fr ^ m w
8875. SHRI MANORANJAN HAZRA: q f^ m r fa^RT f ?
SHRI JAGADISII BIIATTA-
CH ARYYA:
Will the Minister of INFORMATION

w y fit) : (*r) ft» # f
stale the names of the selection grade XW ffi I \
Station Directors o f All India Radio
who are retiring in 1073?
(«r) rnp % T T -q t ^ n w r ^
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION forr «rr i ^ ft vxmt *r s ir
AND BROADCASTING (SHRI DHA-
RAM BIR SINHA): The following offi
*r?cnsr m iftft $ r$t t 1 *if
cers o f the cadre of Station Director mflr ?n$r j u t ^ i
15 $ Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 154
Administrative Structure for better Loss to Industries in Rajasthan due (o

Implementation o f Plans Power Cut
8878. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE 8880. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE

SHARMA: Will the Minister o f PLAN SHARMA- Will Ihe Minister of IN
NING be pleased to state: DUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
(a) whether Planning Commission plea red to state-
has taken a final decision about the
administrative structure for better (a) whether as a .e*ult of power
implementation of plans if so, the out cuts?, industries m R«.ia:>than have
line thereof; and suiTered considerably; and
(b) the time by which the changes (b) if so, the names of industries
will be etTected? which have suffered lo.-s and the ex
tent of loss suffered in production
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE since October, 1972?
MOHAN DIIAKIA), (a) and (b ): A THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
broad indication oi the changes neces DFVF.LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
sary in the administrative structure TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA-
for better implementation of Plans MANIAM>: (a) and (M- Raiasthan Is
are given in Chapter XII of the docu one of the States Vwhich have been
ment, “Approach to the Fifth Five badlv affected by power cuts. How
Year Plan” . ever. an accurate computation o f the
loss of production in respect of differ-
The details are stall being worked rent industries, on account of power
oul. cuts alone, is not possible in view of
the large number of industrial units
Introduction o f Advertisements over involved and the diversify of factors
T.V. affecting industrial production.
The Cement industry in Rajasthan

837y. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE is however reported to have suffered
SHARMA: Will the Minister o f IN a loss of about 1,3000 tonnes in pro
FORMATION AND BROADCASTING duction during the year 1972 mainly on
be pleaded to state: account o f power shortage.
(a) whether there is a proposal
under the consideration of Govern Meena Tandon Murder Case
ment to allow advertisement on T.V.:
(b) if so. the extent to which ad 8881. SHRI PANNA LAL BARU-
vertisement on TV w ill save the time PAL- Will the Mini.-ter of HOME
of A ll India Radio; AFFAIRS be pleased to state:
(c) whether the charges for adver (a) who are the persons against
tisements on T.V. will be on enhanced whom strictures passed b.v Court in
rates; and Meena Tandon Murder Case still
stand;
(d) if so* the rates proposed for
the purpose? (h> whether a top Police Officer
had deposed in Court that this case
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE had been investigated by the local
MINISTRY OP INFORMATION AND police under the gu dance o f senior
m ™ °lDCASTING (SHRI DHARAM officers and this fact was coroborated
BIR SINHA): ( a) No; Sir. by the I.G. Police office in a letter sent
to Ministry o f Home Affairs in. August
(*») to (d ): Do not arise.
1969;
155 Written Amwrn MAT % JOTS Written A w w m 25$
(c) whether in July, 1909, important Bangladesh for a loan of

witnesses in this case had been ex Indian rupees one hundred
amined by top Police Officers; and million for the rehabilitation
of Railways system, supply of
(d) whether the C.B.L had also
telecom, equipment and power
found lapses against top Police Offi
generation equipment.
cers and the Doctor who conducted
the post mortem, but they have been
(ii) The Indian P. T. will sup
•exonerated?
ply telecom, equipment of
Indian manufacture to Bang
ladesh T & T up to a value o f
Indian rupees thirty lakhs.
(SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) None,
Sir.
(ii) A ll the materials are to be
(b ) A senior Police Officer had supplied by 31st December,
stated m the Court that he had been 1973.
discussing this case with the Supdt. of
o f Police, North off and on.
Creation of Industrial Infra-Structure
A letter m this regard was received in Backward Districts
in the Ministry of Home Affairs »n
August, 1969. 8884. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: W ill
(c) Yes, Sir. the Minister of PLANNING be please-
to state:
(d) Departmental action against
the Officers against whom lapses have (a) whether the Planning Commis
been pointed out by the C B .I . is
sion proposes to make provision and
under examination
ask the related Union Ministries to
take up the task of creating industrial
•Sapply of Telecommunication equip, infrastructure m consultation Artth
naent to Bangladesh the concerned State Governments in
the backward regions; and
8882. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL
REDDY: Will the Minister of COM
(b ) if not, what other way is being
MUNICATIONS be pleased to state:
conceived to provide infrastructure so
(a) whether an agreement has been that entrepreneurs may be induced to
opt for backward districts and regions
signed fo r the supply o f telecommu
nication equipment to Bangladesh; and as desired by Government?
(b ) if so, the main features of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

agreement? MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN D H A R IA ): (a) and <b). The
THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA approach to the development o f back
TIONS (SHRI H. N. B A H U G U IA): ward areas/regions including the pro
(a) Yes, Sir. Signed on 7th April, vision of infrastructure has been spelt
1973. out m the “Approach to the Fifth
(b ) Following are the main features Plan", which emphasises the creation
•of the Agreement:— and expansion o f basis economic and
social infrastructure covering irriga
(i> The agreement is in pursuance tion, communications, credit market
o f the terms and conditions ing:, power, education, health and ad
of the “ credit Agreement dated ministrative improvements for the
16th May 1972” between the development o f backward areas/re
Government o f India and the gions. Further details are yet under
Govt, o f People's Republic o f consideration.
157 Written Amwers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 158
Slow progress m i e l>y India la

companies operating in India and
C « m t e r Sflence as oo»aared these have not significantly helped
to
China the growth of self-reliance in this
field. In view o f the great importance
8885. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: W ill of computers for national develop
the Minister o f ELECTRONICS be ment and for the growth o f electronics
pleased to state: as a whole, the Department o f Elec
tronics is taking a number o f steps to
(a) whether Government are aware ensure that indigenous capability and
o f the progress made by China which self-reliance is generated as rapidly as
according to a U.S.A. Science journal possible for he manufacture o f com
American Scientists were surprised at puters as w ell as o f various sub-assem-
the advance in computer science made blies and components.
by China during the last five years;
(b ) whether China has right now

over 200 computers including “third
generation" machines o f its own de
88 86 - m m : wt
sign whereas in contrast India has
only about 150 “second generation”
computers most o f them American far :
designed; and
(c) if so, the reasons of our slow ( * > ) «FTT < T ^ P ffa * fP R T %
progress in spite o f borrowed know fan; fs&jft u sm ai v& m
how and having entered the compu
ter race years before China did’ % ;
{& ) s fe ?rr, wt
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN
THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF *fr irrcnft , sfr*’
FAIRS (SHRI K. C. PAN T): (a ) to
(c). Government are aware and have
tuken note o f Reports which have (*r) sr? ?pn r fa * ^ fr *r
appeared in popular Science Journals Wrnft ?
in USA and UK on the progress made
in China in the field o f Computer
Science and Technology. If these Re tfto n rm 3 rm
ports are fully correct, then China
has made significant progress m this * r fr m ) : (^ ) * (»r)
field. However, since no independent qrrsrfr qr^mhr xfbnrr srafa
assessment has been made by any % fw 3000
Indian observer, Government are un
able to make any comments beyond spt qfrygrm nf 1 srre
this, on these reports Within India,
the Indigenous computer manufactur ^rr (is fMrrft
ing programme commenced in 1969,
at the Electronics Corporation o f Tiftr 2360
India Ltd., Hyderabad which is a | TOT ifw r r % STK f a r e
wholly central Government owned
640 aptte ws
pubUc-sector undertaking. This pro
gramme is being backed fully by G ov ?r?Twr ^FTssr fr ft 1
ernment Including financial assistance ^ W5 W T
ia the form o f grants and loans. Ear-
lier programmes In this Add were en wk it 1 snft fcrar W t *r$r-
tirely those o f subsidiaries o f foreign m wm 1
159 Written Answers M AY 2, 1973 Written Answers *60
Employment to Engineers and Scien
tists la 1973-74 5, Rural Engineering Sur
veys 2.85
8887. SHRI SHRI KRISHNA A G - 6. Investigation o f Irriga-
GARW ALA: tion and Power Pro
jects 6.11
SHRI RAGHUNANDAN L A L
BHATIA: 2. Financial assistance to
Entrepreneurs 13.00
WiU the Minister o f PLANNING be
pleased to state: 8. Survey of India Pro
grammes 1.25
(a) whether any special scheme has
9. Investigation of Roads
been formulated for giving employ
Projects 0.90
ment to engineers and scientists during
1973-74; 10 Design Units for Rural
Water Supply 0.44
(b ) if so, the main features thereof;
and 11. Mineral Surveys— Natu
ral Resources 1.00
(c ) whether the proposals have been
accepted and if not, the reasons there 12. Special Employment Pro
for? grammes m Slates and
Union Territories Cen
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tral Assistance) 27.00
MOHAN D H ARIA ): (a) to (c ). G ov 13 Half a Million Jobs for
ernment’s objective is to ensure emp Education 100.00
loyment to all highly qualified engi
neers and scientist^ by the end of Total 159.50
1973-74. Apart from the various pro
grammes included m the several deve
lopmental sectors in the Annual Plan
1973-74 which would benefit engineers Under tho programme for Half a
and scientists, a number o f special Million Jobs for Educated job seekers
employment schemes initiated m 1971- in 1973-74, eication o f job opportuni
72 and 1972-73 and the new scheme ties. for highly qualified engineers and
for providing Half a Million Jobs to scientists w ill be given the first prio
educated unem ployed during 1973-74 rity The schemes being formulated
ar*» a3^0 expected to generate a large under this programme relate to (1)
number o f employment opportunities self-employment schemes for various
for engineers and scientists during categories of educated job-seekers in
1973-74. cluding engineer* and scientists, (ii)
training schemes for educated job
The outlays under the various em p seeker' for enabling their absorption
loyment programmes m 1973-74 are as in jobs on completion o f training, (lii)
follow s:— surveys, studies and investigations and
(iv) subndisod employment o f engi
(Rs. crores) neering degree/diploma holders and
1. Agro Service Centres 0.76 certain other categories o f educated
persons. The scheme o f subsidised
2. Land and Soil survey- employment envisages the employment
Natural Resources 0.85 of engineering degree and diploma
3. Forest survey—-Natural holders b y private industrialists of the
small and medium sector on the basis
Resources 1.00
o f a 50 per cent subsidy from Govern
4. Ground Water Survey- ment subject to a ceiling o f Rs. ZOO
Natural Resource 4.34 p er month for engineering degree
ho�ders and Rs. 125 per month for (d) whether any initiatives have
engi:1eering diploma holders. been taken are being taken by Go\·
,ernment to ensure optimum utilisati,
Besides, several steps have also of existing capacity and if so, the na
been taken to promote self-employ ture thereof?
ment among engineers. A number of
State Governments have provided con THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
cessions such as exemption from pay DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
ment of earnest money deposit, pre TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA
ference in tender rates etc., to engi NIAM): (a) to (c). A statement show
neers taking up contract work, indivi ing capacity utilisation in selected in
dually or in groups. Schemes to pro dustries during the years 1970 to
vide financial assistance to engineers, 1972, is laid on the Table of the House.
technicians and other educated per [PLaced in Library. See No. LT-4938/
sons, who wish to take up small scale 73]. From this statement it will be
industries, are under implementation observed that though in certain indus
by a number of agencies. In some of tries the percentage utilisation of caoa
the States, technicians are allotted city decreased during the years 1971
build-up sheds and easy-terms of and 1972 as compared to that in 1970,
assistance to set up small-scale indus in respect of some other industries
tries. The State Bank of India and the utilisation of capacity has increas
its subsidiaries and other nationalised ed.
banks have also initiated various sche (d) Some of the steps taken by the
mes to assist the engineering entrepre Government for fuller utilisation of
neurs to set up their own ventures. capacity are:
The Ministry of Industrial Develop
ment and the Small Scale Industry (i) Liberalisation of industrial
Service Institute have also been con licensing policy and streamlin
ducting special training courses for ing of licensing rocedure; -
technicians.
(ii) P2r,i•"''c11. to cperate on mult'
It is expected that all employed shift basis where licences had
graduates engjneers would be found been issued on the basis of :i
opportunities for gainful employment single or double shift working,
by the end of the current financial and permission to produce up
year. to 200 per cent of licensed
capacity in other cases, in
respect of a total {)f G5 select
Utilisation of Capacity in Indust..ries ed industries of importance;
provided that the concerned
8888. SHRI BAKSI NAYAK: industrial units do not belong
SHRI MAHADEEPAK SINGH to Larger Houses or t.o foreign
SHAKYA: majority firms, whose appii
cations for such capacity ex
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL pansion and reguhrisatirm
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND were to be considered on
TECH.IOLOGY be pleased to state: merit by a specially constitu
ted Task Force;
(a) the percentage utilisation of
Industrial capacity in the public and (iii) Exemption from industrial
private sector in the country; licensing for inves:ments 1-,ptc>
Rs. 1 crore for all applican'.;s
(b) whether utilisation of industrial other than those belonging to
capacity has decreased during the last large houses and foreign ma
two years; jority firms subject to theit'
satisfying prescribed condi ·
(c) the extent thereof; and tions.
557 LS-6.
x*3 Written Ansteer# MAY 3, 1971 VMttonAnnm* j6 1
(iv ) Liberilsation o f import policy In respect o f crossbar exchang

tor raw materials particularly es for whieh equipment has been
in regard to steel w hich has supplied fey M /s. BTM Belgium, a
been in short supply, with a programme to rectify the above defi
view to accelerating the rate ciencies is on hand* A s regacds fit*
o f industrial production; rectification work involved in the
(v ) Streamlining o f procedures for crossbar exchanges which have been
consideration o f applications installed with equipment supplied by
for industrial licences and for M /s. ITI o f Bangalore, measures to
capital goods import; and rectify the above deficiences are under
consideration.
(v i) Eemoving of bottlenecks in
(b) The choice of the tender for
the full utilisation of capacity
crossbar exchange equipment by our
in public sector industrial
experts was based on the considera
undertakings, for which a
tion involving broad system concepts,
special group has been consti
facilities etc., detailed information for
tuted under a Member of the
which was furnished bv the tenderers.
Planning Commission.
It was neither possible for our experts,
who had decided on the choice of the
Delects In Cross-bar Exchange systems to ch«ck the design ot each
and every individual component or
8889. SHRI S. C SAMANTA: circuit of the system, nor such a
SHRI YAM UNA PRASAD proredure waj> followed.
MANDAL: All the telephone exchanges instal
led with cross-bur type equipment are
Will the Minister of COMMUNICA working and Riving .service. Only
TIONS be pleased to state: their performance has not been wholly
(a) what are the dcfccts that have satisiuctor.v duo to deficiencies men
been detected in the cross oar-cx- tioned in part (a) above, which could
t hange, and how they are being re be detected only afrter the exchanges
medied, were commissioned
(b ) what aie the reasons that these (c) M /s BTM of Belgium are sup
defects were not noticed by our ex plying free of co^t the necessary
perts etc., before the deal w«*s finalis materials recuurcd for reotiflcat on of
ed; and the above deficiencies 'lhcv have
also agreed m principle to defrav the
(c) who w ill be responsible for tlu cost of execution of modifications to
loss being incurred in petting replace remove the above deficiencies. W>th
ment s and for the hardship experien the rectification of above deficiences
ced by subscribers, useis and others'* the crossbar exchanges are expected
to provide satisfactory service, thut>
THE MINISTER OB’ COMMUNICA removing the hardship caused to subs
TIONS (SHRI H. N BAH U G lfN A): cribers. users and others.
(a) the deficencies observed ?n the
working o f Crossbar exchanges *ie. - Demands for Telephones In Delhi and
(l) Inadequate contact protec New Delhi
tion.
(ii) Component failures. 8890. SHRI S. C. SAM ANTA: Will
the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
(itt) Instability of mechanical ad be pleased to state:
justments.
(a) the efforts being made by the
(iv) Minor circuit problems. Ministry to meet the demand f°r
(v ) Corrosion. telephones under various categories in
1*5 Wtttttfn A w v m VAISAKHA 12, 1805 (SAKA) Written Anaw m 166
the capital towns of D elhiand New telephone demands generally current

Delhi; in Delhi by Slat March, 1986.
(b) whet are the main hurdles in Stall In News Beading Section/An
the way and how are they being over nouncement section working as Casual
come; and Staff in A I R
(c) by what time the Ministry will 8891. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS
he in a position to meet the demands MUNSI: WUl the Minister of INFOR
i» full? MATION AND BROADCASTING be
pleased to state:
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) how many persons in the News
(a) A total of about 55000 lines are Reading Section or in the Announce
being added to the equipped capacity ment Section are working as casual
o f Delhi Telephones system during the staff in the Calcutta Station of A.I.R.;
next five years.
(b ) the main hurdles in the way (b) whether! any proposal has yet
o f meeting the telephone demand a+ been adopted to recruit staff for tne
Delhi as well as other stations in the aforesaid sections on permanent or
country are: contract basis; and
(i) Shortage of automatic ex (c) whether the A.I.R. stall is per
change equipment, mitted to earn money by profession
outside A.I.R. jurisdication?
(ii» Shortage of Underground
Cabley; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
<iii) Shortage telephone r stru-
ments. BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM
BIR SINHA): (a). Six.
7'< rw ie iy the e shortage* the fol
<b) No, Sir. The work ussigned to
lowing action has been taken;
these persons is, at present, of a tem
(i) A second Factory tor the porary nature.
manutacture of Switching
(c) Yes. Sir, as per the terms of
Equipment is being set up in
contract.
the Fifth Plan at Rae Bareilly
in Uttar Pradesh.
Organisation of R. and D. In Indus
Oh A new underground cable
tries
Factory has recently been set
up at Hyderabad and the
capacity of the existing fac 8802. SIIRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Wil’
tory at Roopnarainpur is also the M inster ol SCIENCE AN TECH
being augmented; NOLOGY be pleased to state:
(Hi) A new unit for assembly ot (a) whether the R. and D. panel ot
telephone instruments has been the Engineering Association of India
wt up at Naini. (Western Region) has submitted a
memorandum to Government on the
(c) Even as the existing demands problems of organising R. & D. in
“*e being met gradually, additional industries;
demands come up at a very fast rate
Hence it may not be possible to meet (b> if so, the suggestions made
we demands to full in the mnr the memorandum; and
future. In the draft fifth Five *ear
an tew been proposed to make the (c) Government’* reaction thereto?
Written Answers MAY 2, 1973 Written An�wers 168
THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Orissa to the Government of India for

DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND the development of these backward
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA· areas; and
NIAM): (a) Yes, Si:r;.
(e) if so, the steps taken by the
(b) The main suggestions related State Government and the Centre so
to:- far in this regard?
1. R.&D. w1::irk in t,he E.lngineer- THE MINISTE.,R OF INDUSTRIAL
ing Industry. DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA
2. R. & D. Cess. NIAM): (a) to (e). Koraput which�
3. Cooperation and O::iordination has been identified as an industrially
between industries and Re backward area has 173 small scale
search Bodies. units with an invesment of ab')ut
Rs. 144 lakhs and employing 1798 per
4. The Ta'x concessions under sons. This district is reported as
Section 35 and 80 MM and being fairly rich in bauxite, lime stone
80 0 of the Income Tax Act. dolomite, iron-ore, graphite, and
5. Industrial Licensing Policy. manganese, some of which have been
put to industrial uses: Ganjam lrns
(c) The recommendations are under not however been identified an indus-
consideration of the "Committee on . trially backward.
R & D in the Private Sector Indus· While Government have not re
try" constituted to make recommen:l;:i
ceived any survey report from the
tions regarding policy in regard to the
state IDC of Orissa, the Joint Institu
execution and commercialisation; of
tional Study Team of the IDBI has
research and development in private
conducted a i!ldustrial potential sur
industry'.
vey of the ideas. The report has sug
gested the following industries for the
Develoriment of Industries in Kora:put
state:
and Ganjam Agency (Oris.Sa)
Jute mills, vegetable oil, pine-apple
·3893. SHRI GIRINDHAR -COMAN
crushing and bottling coconut complex,
GO: Will the Minister of INDUS,
sal ceed oil, myrobalam extract; high
TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIEN
carbon ferro-chrome, flushing gas re
CE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased
ports, ferro-vanadium, cement, ferro-
to state:
sillicon, pre-stressed concrete pipes,
ta) the level of development of small refactories and aluminium.
scale and big industries in tribal and
industrially backward areas of Kcra The location of these industrial pro
put and Ganjam Agency of Orissa jects would in each case depend up1:n
compared to the other parts of the the techno-economic feasibility. The
State; survey report of IDBI is being sttidied
by the committee of Direction in consu
(b) whether the hilly areas of these latation with the State Government to
two districts have got rich minerals; determine a further course of action,
such as preparing feasibility stucies
(c) whether Government of India for the information of prospecti,·e
are going to start forest based indus entrepreneurs, both in the public and
tries and mineral-based industries ar.d private sectors.
Agro-industries in Koraput and Ga:1-
jam Agency in Fifth Plan; Information about the compratii,e
level of development in variou:; dis·
(d) whether a complete survey r e· tricts of the state of Orissa is not
port has been submitted by the I.D.C. readily available.
1$9 Written Answers VAISAK&A 12, 1805 (SAKA) Written Answers 170
M - l e o M n i c D e v d w u M t of Noma- trally sponsored programme is laid

Jribes during Fifth Flan on the Table o f the House.
Placed m Library.. See No. LT-4939/
8894. SHRI GIKIDHAR GOMAN GO:
W ill the Minister o f PLANNING be (b ) The main tribes featured in
the completed films are:—
pleased to state;
(a) whether Government are pre Documentary Films Produced on

paring a special scheme for the socio Tribal Culture
economic development of the most
8895. SHRI GIR1DHAR GOMANGO.
primitive tribes, nomadic tribes and
Will the Minister of ’INFORMATION
semi-nomadic tribes ol India m the
AND BROADCASING be pleased to
Fifth Plan;
state:
(b ) whether any steps have been (a> how many documentary films
taken in Fourth Plan period tor this based on Tribal Culture, typical pri
purpose; and mitive tradition o f the different tribes
in India, have been produced during
(c) if so, the amount of money spent
the last three years;
and the areas so far covered under the
scheme? (b ) the names of the tribes; and
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether his Ministry proposes

MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI to produce documentary films on these
MOHAN DHARIA): (a) Yes, Sir. The different tribes in Fifth Five Year
‘Approach to the Fifth Plan 1974-79’ Plan also?
document recognises that in the past
the benefits of development both in THA DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
the general sector and especially m MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
the backward classes sector have not BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM
pet cola ted to the lower sections o f the B1R SINHA): (a) The Films Division
backward classes w.th a view to have produced 4 documentary films
identify the more backward among the on Tribal Culture, during the last 3
back kward classes with a view to years. In addition, they have accept'
taking to them programmes covering ed 3 films as donation. 2 documentary
economic development and the mini films are under production.
mum needs.
(b ) The mam tribes featured in the

( b > A few States such as* Orissa and
completed films are—
Assam have attempted identification
o f the more backward tribes and have 1 Shephered tribe of Himacha)
initiate^ special programme for their Pradesh.
benefit. States having a suenble popu
2. Nagas.
lation o f nomadic and semi-nomadic
tribes have taken up programmes fur (3 Mopas and
socio-economic development of these
communities in the Backward Classes 4. Daflas
sector. There is a Cetrally Sponsored (e> Yes, Sir.
Programme for the rehabilitation and
development o f denotified tribes, noma'
die and semi-nomadic tribes in the Emphasis on Irrigation, Power, Steel
Fourth Plan. Fertilisers and Non-Ferrous Me tab
during 1973-74
(c ) A Statement showing the Fourth
B an outlay and expenditure on deno- 8896. SHRI MUHAMMED SHERIFF:
'tilted tribes (including nomadic and Will the Minister o f PLANNING ba
s*mi-nomadic tribes) under the Ceu- pleased to state:
v,7 x Written Ansvmt MAY *> 1919, wrnfW» ffVPTNf?* X7f*
(a ) whether emphasis has been laid i$?K 4 is iftkc» 4 at u xom m

by Government on irrigation, powwr
Fertilisers ■
steel, fertilisers and non-ferrous
metals in the annual plan for 1973-74;
Several new projects with an addi
and tional capacity o f about 8 lakh tonne*
o f nitrogen ate expected to be com
(b ) if so, the outlines of the schem
pleted during 1973-74. The targets o t
es approved for the purpose?
production for 1973-74 are estimated
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN,THE at 1.4 million *tonnes of nitrogen and
0.4 million tonnes of P 2 O s
MOHAN DHARIA): (a ) Yes, Sir,
Non-ferrous metals
(b ) Irrigation.
A considerable step-up in production
Under major and medium irrigation, o f aluminium and copper is envisaged
targets envisages tor 1973-74 in res during 1973-74, the targets for these
pect of additional potential and addi items being estimated at 210,000 tonnes
tional utilisation are 1.06 million hec and 20,000 tonnes respectively.
tares and .21 million hectares respec
tively. Emphasis w ill be on the com Visit of High Level Central Team to
pletion o f the continuing schemes a* States for launching programme for
far as possible. In the selection oI providing jobs to educated unemployed
new schemes, preference will be given
to schemes in draught prone areas and 8897. SHRI MUHAMMED SHERIFF:
backward areas. Will the Minister of PLANNING be
pleased to state:
P ow er
(a) whether a high level Central
The generating capacity is expect team visited different States o f the
ed to be stepped up from about 17.53 country to tie up arrangements for
m illion kw. in 1972-73 to 19.457 million the launching of half a million jo b
kw in 1973-74. During J973-74, a programme for the educated unem
higher priority has been accorded to ployed; and
construction o f transmission lines.
(b ) if so, the outcome o f their visit
Under Rural Electrification program and tlic progress achieved in this
me, it is expected that 300,000 ump- regard7
sets would be energised during 1973-
74. Electrification o f 13,000 villages la THE MINISTER OF STATE IN
also envisaged during the year. Thus THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING
by the end of the Fourth Plan, about (SHRI MOHAN D H ARIA ): (a) and
2.4 million pump-sets would be in (b ). A Central Team headed by the
operation and 1.48 lakh villages would Minister of State for Planning has so
have been electrified in the country. far visited Kerala, Tamil Nadu,
Mysore, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Rajas
Steel than. Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and West
Bengal to discuss the proposals for
Among the major developments mulated by State Governments under
envisaged under steel during 1973-74, the Half a Million Jobs program me
mention may be made of the expan* for educated unemloyed during
si on of the Bhilai Steel Plant and the 1973-74. These schemes have been
acceleration o f the tempo o f construc formulated on the basis o f broad
tion work on the 1.7 million tonne* guidelines given to the State G overn
stage o f Bokaro Steel Plant. Thf ments by the Planning Commission
production target tor steel ingots in (cop y attached). As a
result o t
VB W f*tm Answer* VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 174
m m iam , several schemfeshave been 5. Special attention should be given
efeazed tor Immediate implementa in providing employment to the gra
tion. Some schemes require to be re duates from scheduled castes and
vised to bring them in conformity scheduled tribes and minorities.
w ith the objectives of the programme. Similarly, war-widows, uneroplyed
State Governments concerned have educated from scavengers’ commu
been advised to go ahead with the nity, disabled educated youngsters
Implementation o f the approved and such other deserving cases should
schemes. The Team expects to com get special treatment.
plete the visits to the remaining States
b y the end o f May to ensure that all 6. Training programmes may be
schemes formulated under this pro- undertaken to improve the employ
grame are cleared by May, and. ment and absorptive potential of the
educated unemployed. Requirements of
the Fifth Plan programmes with spe
Half a Million Jobs Programme cial reference to the annual Plan for
(1973-74) for Educated Unemployed next year may be the basis for such
GUIDELINES training programmes. While formu
lating the Training Schemes it may be
1. Employment programmes should kept in view that the funds under
be such as could be dovetailed with the Half-a-Million Jobs Programme
the existing develoment programmes for Educated Employed w ill be avail
or with the programme to be taken up able to finance only the stipends for
in the Fifth Five Year Plan. Schemes the trainees, marginal expenses for
should be such as do not need recur training personnel and training equip
ring assistance but enable the persons ment. The other expenditure oi.
employed to get absorbed in the nor building's, vehicles, etc. would hav?
mal stream of the economy. While to be met by the State Government
providing job opportunities empha- from its own resources. Establish
sis should be laid on self-generating ment o f functional ancillary indu»
employment. The schemes should be trial estates and special industrial
such as can generate more and more estates like .electronics .estates or
employment and have a multiplier plastic estates may be encouraged
effect. They should be productive and However, investments for the creation
labour intensive. o f such estates should be mobilised
from institutional finance or Stats
finance. Margin money contributiou
2. A11 out efforts should be made from this fund could be considered on
so that at least 20 per cent of the merits.
educated unemployed are absorbed
during the year 1973*74 tn each 8. Small-scale industries and cot
State (as far as possible, District- tage industries requiring lesser capi
w ise). tal but which are production and
labour-oriented should b e given due
3. Engineers and highly qualified importance and adequate protection
technicians who are yet unemployed
should be given first priority and all 9. Consumers’ cooperatives, credit
efforts should be made to provide cooperatives, service cooperatives,
gainful employment opportunities to industrial cooperatives etc, belonging
all such engineers and highly quali to educated unemployed may be
fied technologists during the yeas sponsored and encouraged b y provid
1973-74. ing margin money or share-capjtal
contribution.
4. Educated unemployed persons 10. For proper implementation of

from a family having no source of in these schemes, a special cell should
come should get priority over others. be created at the Sttfte 1 m l With a
175 Written Answers M AT 197* Wrttfcft A*#W«w 176
Minister in charge and one olftcer o l w r $ wns^W iw N fs r
the rank o f Secretary. Such cells
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4 ik W i 'WWt sP W IIW i wT 3^?
Rectification of defects in Crossbar
it swnc
Exchanges
8901 SHRI YAM UNA PRASAD

8900- *ft ijsr tp f * wt : wt MANDAL Will the Minister o f
tfW T tfrc **irr*r *raft 3FTR COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to
state
apt FTT fir —
(a) whether certain defects have
been found in the designing and
(sp) ^ rt w w rror manufacture o f crossbar exchanges;
and
fiw m «ftr Tr ^ % * ^ ?n *ftr smrror
fin a rm t * r M ^ q^r w
(b) if so, the time by which these
I tft* TT^r ^ r^ p - 'JTTTT f m r ft will be removed and the amount in
•ftPrsfr, ■j^rsp’r ■^Tfeurar sfr" ir*?% volved in rectification o f defects’
s fn w fr f^ r srtf fp - THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA

?wr q ^ ic ft t, *rtr TIONS (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA):
(a^ Onlj certain deficiencies m the
working o f Crossbar exchanges have
been noticed.
(b ) In lespect o f all crossbar ex*>

changes for which equipment has
been supplied b v M A BTM o f Bel
gium, a programme for rectification
ot the above deficiencies is on hand,
and is expected to be completed by
the middle o f 1974-75 However, prio
rity action is being taken in respect
q*w %fa s w tt^ *vm n $f
o f 3 cios&bar Exchange? in Delhi and
(*ft w W ta ) t { ^ ) srnnr this is expected to be completed
m m ax i m t w n t m A m m * ,, rtr
be®rn the end o f this year. As regards

the amount involved In rectification
o f deficiencies in these crossbar e x * it m
changes, M /s. BTM arc supplying free W r t& it 4 » 4 0 7 3 j l
o f cost all the material required for
the rectification work. They haVe
aso agreed in principle to bear the (nr) *t 1973-74
cost o f manpower involved in this % is m f i wk
rectification work. As regards
rectification w ork involved in
the
the
S sN ft m mm
crossbar exchanges, equipment for 1 1 ** * xr* fa * w -
which has been supplied by M /s. I .l.l, ^ > fv ?m r«n rw trT T «n n rT | ^ ^ »rf
Bangalore, measures to rectify the
1 1 ir tw t ^nrr 1
deficiencies in these exchanges are
under consideration and the cost o f FW 0 £o 49401 7 S ]i
rectification w ork as w ell as time re
quired to complete it are being asses
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sed.
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8906
. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD
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SC
IAL DEVELOPMENT AND
IENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
’
srnn
f^T am Nt pleasedtostate
:
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(a) whether Government have un
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far^fon j
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tt der cons
iderat
ion any proposa
l to set
% % fr^
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far
et sm s
rro up industr
ies in publ
ic sec
tor in the
dis
tric
to f Gaya and Nowadah o f
'
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TRT
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? I Bihar dur
ing the year 1973
-74
; and
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THE DEPUTY M IN ISTER IN THE
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T*I \
T MINISTRY OF INDUSTR IAL DEVE
LOPMENT (SHR I BRANAB KUMAR
MUKHERJEE )
: (a ) and <b)
. The
f
ircw
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tsr
tfa*f
iwrw >»ft informat
ion i
s be
ing co l
lec
ted an ti
f«m*r *c gm* wi
ll bela
idonthe Tableotthe Hou
se.
8905
.«f
tfacfta wt : ^ Reopen
ing o
f Gaya Tex
tile M
ill
s in
Biha
r
fa
ffRC *P
*t ^^T^ftf^T
fa 8907 SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAt
VERMA . W il
l the M
ini
ste
r o
f IN

(
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rr tottt % 4s
rfo
r, DUSTR IAL DEVELOPMENT AND
SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
1973 %f ^ HK
'fr p
leased to s
tate
;
fa
rvw s
fti ft ^rmr tt *p
rre
,
(a
) therea sonsforclos
ing downthe
ftfo IT s
rsn
fs
fPT ^TT^TT ft ^rr Gaya Text
ile M
il
ls in the Sta
te oi
I; t
ftr Biha
r; and
{b) whe
ther Government have any
(
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irf
rr
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t <
rr*
[?*&* schemeto ge
tit reopened Inthe nea
i
future
?
ft *w
r s
rfa
fta
rr f ?
THE M INISTER OF INDUSTR IAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SC IENCE AND
„J
fc. 5
j
i gnM M
jtJL TECHNOLOGY (SHR I C . SUBBA -
mnvw iw w i
rfTwr w wnrr MAN IAM); (a ) Reason sfor closure
(«t fa mviQ m ifart
) : (v) of the m
ill in June 1995 bv the pri

183 Wfttbm AMWm MAY 2,“WrWMiitu
vate management were labour trouble, dustry At its session held
uneconomic ‘working and persistent recently la New
losse*.
(b ) The lessees of the mill the (i) That clear-cut guidelines be

management ol which has vested in formulated and publicly an
the Central Government by virtue of nounced regarding the
section 4(1) of the Sick Textile Under* grounds on which and the
takings (Taking Over of Management) areas of industry in which
Act, 1972, have obtained interim stay take-over and nationalisation
order from the Supreme Court o f may be considered by the
India according to which status-quo Government.
is to be maintained. The mill has,
therefore, not yet been started by the (ii) Before a nationalisation *“ deci
Custodian apointed under the said sion is taken by the Govern*
Act. ment, the matter should be
referred to an independent
investigating body which will
Demand, by FXC.CH: lor laying study whether the proposed
guidelines on Nationalisation of nationalisation will be in the
Industry overall public interest.
8908. DR. RANEN SEN: Will the (iii) That in all cases of takeover
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP and nationalisation, investors
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO should be assured o f fair and
LOGY be pleased to state: equitable compensation.
(a) whether the Federation of
Indian Chambers o f Commerce and (d) It has been made clear time and
Industry has urged the Government to again that the Government’s policy
announce dear * cut guidelines on is to use nationalisation not ,for its
nationalisation; own sake but whenever it save* the
public good.
(b) whether the Federation m a
resolution adopted at its annual
session held recently in New Delhi
has stated that a clear cut statement Liquidation o f Dacoits in various
o f policy by Government specifying States
the ground on the basis of which in
dustries would be taken over would 8909 SHRI BHAGIRATH BHAN-
restore confidence m industry; W AR : Will the Minister of HOME
(c ) whether the Federation has al-o AFFAIRS b** pleased to state:
demanded that before a nationalisa
tion decision was taken the matter (a) whether gome dacoits who had
should be referred to an independent not surrendered last year were trying
body to study whether the step was to raise new gangs in various States;
in overall public interest; and
(b> if so the central assistance pro
<d) if so, Government’s reaction to
posed to be offered to these States to
these demands?
liquidate the new gangs, and
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND (c) whether any coordinated plan
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- has been evolved and the extent to
MANIAM); (a) to (c). A resolution which it has been implemented for
with the following recommendatins the reclamation of land and general
was passed by the Federation o f In economic development o f the dacuit
dian Chambers o f Commerce and In infested areas?
185 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers It6"
THE DEPUTY MINISTmR IN THE Death of Mrs. Lakhrni Bai Chenbaga-
MINISTRY OF HOME AFF AIRS raman Pillai, a freedom fighter
(SHRI F" R MOHSIN): (a) Informa-
tion is being collected from the state 3911. SHRI S. A. MURAGANAN-
Governments concerned and will be THAM: Will the Minister of HOME.
laid on the Table of the House after AFFAIRS be pleased to state:
it i~ colected.
(a) whether Mrs. Lakshmi Bai
(b) The Central Government has no Chenbagaraman Pillai, a great free-
proposal under consideration Ior any dom fighter died in Bombay, during
special assistance to liquidate the new the 1st week of December for want
gangs. of money and proper medical aid;
(b) if so, the facts thereof;

(c) A committee of Joint Secretaries
was constituted to suggest schemes (c) whether the house of Mrs.
for comprehensive development of Lakhmi Pinai is under the custody
dacoit infested area. Reports on of the Police; and
ravine reclamation and road develop-
(d) whether any claim has been'
ment for this area have been received made by Chenbagaraman Memorial
and are being processed in consul-
Centre, Madras and by the relation,
tation with the State Governments of Dr. Pillai to the Commissioner of
concerned. Police and Government?

Proposal to appoint Messengers to MINIST,RY OF HOME AFFAIRS
deliver telephone bills at dUOI: steps (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) to (d).
of subscribers The information is being collected and
will be laid on the Ta 'Jie of the
House.
8910. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN-
THAM: Will the Minister of COM-
Proposal to set u!) a new undertaking
MUNICATIONS be pleased to state:
for the Development and Manufacture
of computers
(a) whether p. & T. Deptt. proposes
to appoint special messengers to deli-
8912. SHRI RAM PRAKASH:
ver telephone bills at door steps of
the Minister of ELECTRONICS
the subscribers in order to avoid
pleased to state:
misplacement of bills as at present;
(a) whether Government have any
(b) whether P. & T. proposes to
proposal to set up a new undertaking
decentralise the billing procedure at for the development and manufacture
sub-divisional level and thereby ob-
of the latest type of computers; and
taining the payment of bills at ex-
change or sub-divisional office counter (b) if so, the total expenditure in-
as in the case telegraph offices; and volved?
(c) if so, the broad outlines of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
proposal? MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
(SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) and n».
THE l\IIINISTER OF COMMUNICA- Government have approved in May,
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): 1971, a programme of the Electronics
(a) No, Sir. Corporation of India Ltd. (Hydera-
bad), which is a wholly Central Gcv-
(b) No, Sir. ern-nent owned public sector urrd...'-
taking, for the manufacture of Com-
(c) The question does not arise. puters. The Corporation has so 'far
287 yfr&toi A i t M t t uah % im *38
manufactured 18 computers (TOC* (b ) to <d). Since the i t w m
12) and is in the advanced menst are available, the Indian Insti
stages o f developing m ore sophis tute o i Management hat been advised
ticated systems based on inte to reconstruct the tape.
grated circuits, which will be avail*
able from 1974. The expenditure in
volved in the programme approved by Designing of Computer-based infor
Govrnment so far is Rs. 228.76 lakhs mation System by Indian Industries of
spread over a period o f four years Man&geatettt* Calmtta.
(from 1971-72 to 1975-76). Govern
ment are also examining the question 8914. PROF. MADHU DANDA-
o f how manufacturing programme
VATE: Will the Minister of INDUS
should be set up for the production of TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND
mlm-computers and a range of compu SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
ter sub-systems and components such pleased to state;
as Peripherals, Memories, Semi-con
ductor devices etc. On the basis of (a) whether the Indian Institute
progress on the above mentioned as of Management, Calcutta was entrust
pects, Government will consider the ed to design a computer-based in
need or otherwise for further separate formation sy&tem for the D.G.T.D.;
undertakings for the manufacture of
computers and related items. (b) whether the Indian Institute of
Management has completed the con
Loss o f D .G T.D , data tape belonging tract; and
to Library o f Computer Centre
R. K. Purem, tfew Delhi (c) wheher the Indian Institute of
Management, Calcutta has been paid
a sum far exceeding the original con
8913. PROF. MADHU DANDA-
ta c t; and if so, the reasons therefor?
V ATE: Will the Minister of INDUS
TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCI THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
ENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE
to state; AND TECHNOLOGY (SH,RI C.
(a) whether a D G .T D . data tape SUBRAMANIAM; (a) Yes, Sir Th*
belonging io the Library of Computer Indian Institute of Management,
Centre at R K. Puram, New Delhi has Calcutta was entrusted with the task
beroi missing from the Library; of designing and implementation of a
( omputer based information system
(I ) whether this data tape covered/ lor the Directorate General of Tech
reKittri to several lakhs o f cards and nical Development.
about Rs. 1.50,000 was spent for it;
whether Government made any 0>) No, Sir
attempts to recover the same, and (c) The Indian Institute of Manage
fd) if so, the nature thereof? ment, Calcutta has been paid a sum
of Rs. 5 lakhs as per terms of the con
tract. Besides an ad hoe Payment
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of Rs. 1,80.000 was made to them for
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE the additional work done by them.
MUKHERJEE); (a) No DGTD data
tape was missing from the library of Avenues of promotion and rule* lor
the Computer Centre, R. K. Puram, transfer of staff artistes of AXE, and
New Delhi. However, one o f the Song and Drama Division
tapes, being used for DGTD data
system by the Indian Institute o f
8915. PROF. MADHU DANDA-
Management, Calcutta, was accident*
ally erased. VATE: W ill the Mlafrter o f INFOR-
j8 9 Wfttfcn VAISAKHA 12, 1898 (SAKA) Written Atwwers 190
1KA.TI0K AND BROADCASTING be (SHRI MOHAN D H A R IA ): (a) and

jpteased to state: (b ). The various programmes in
cluded in the Plans o f the Central
(a) whether there ate any avenues Ministries and State Governments are
not promotions and set rules for trans expected to benefit all sctions o f the
fers for the staff artistes o f A .I.R population including Scheduled Castes
and Song and Drama Division; and Scheduled Tribes. The special
programmes .taken up during the
(b ) if so, what; and
Fourth Plan such as Small Farmers
( c ) the number o f artistes and em* Development Agency, Marginal Far
jpjoyees o f Song and Drama Division mers and Agricultural Labourers and
prom oted during the year 1972? the Crash Scheme for Rural Employ
ment provide substantial benefits to
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tri
M INISTRY OF INFORMATION AND bes. A number o f schemes included
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM under the Special Employment Pro
BIR SIN H A ): (a) and (b ). The grammes implemented by various
staff artistes o f A.I.R and Song and iState Governments also benefit the
JDrama Division are members o f sepa Scheduled Castes and Scheduled
rate cadres and therefore their work Tribes Under the Half a Million
and performance are not comparable Jobs Programme for educated job
Staff artistes of A.I.R. have regular seekers, the Planning Commission
procedures for appointment, promo has advised the Slate Governments
tion and transfer. to give priority to the employment of
candidates from Scheduled Ca&tes
(c'i The question of promotion, as
and Scheduled Tribes. The State
such, does not arise m the case of
Governments are being pursued to
staff artistes. However, during 1972
ensure that all graduates among Sche
tw o artistes who were performers m
duled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and
border publicity parties on a consoli
numadic Tribes and educated persons
dated fee ot 1 5. 150 P M w ere select
from among the Scavenging com
ed for the posts of dancer and actress
munity are absorbed in gainful em
respectively on the fee scale of
ployment in 1973-74. The guidelines
Rs. 215-440 P.M. The number of
also provide for special consideration
Governm ent .servants who w ere pro
to educated persons coming from
moted during the year 3972 is two
families who have no source o f in
come. This w ill also benefit to a
l*»rge extent Scheduled Castes and
Schemes for providing Jobs to Scheduled Tribes candidates.
uneducated Scheduled Castes
and Scheduled Tribes
In the Fifth Plan, the strategy of
development o f backward classes
8917. SHRIMA11 BHARGAVI places greater emphasis on the roie
TH AN KAPP a m : Will the Minister o f the general sector in providing
a f PLANNING be pleased to state: major developmental programmes.
(a) whether any spccial schemes The Public consumption programmes,
for providing jobs to unemployed specially in regard to minimum needs,
Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tri will involve eligibility conditions
bes have been formulated b y the Cen which w ill give high priority to sche
tre or the State Governments; and duled castes, scheduled tribes and
nomadic tribes. Programmes of the
4 <b) if so, the outlines thereof? general sector which include agri
culture, land reforms, village and
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN small-scale industries, training pro*
m s MINISTRY OF PLANNING prammes for employment in semi*
I9I Written Answers , MAY 2, 1973 Written Answers I92
skilled professions and communi- Closure of small scale industries in.

cations will accord high priority West Bengal
to development' of backward classes,
Educatnon economic development and 8919. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU:
social legislation programmes will Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
be directed towards improvement DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE
in the quality of lif€ of these AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to
communities, enabling them over a state:
period of time to reach reason-
(a) whether Government are aware'
able levels of development, In addi-
of a report published in the Economic
tion, special programmes to en-
Times Bombay dated the 17th March,
courage talented students from among
1973, under the caption "Mass closure
the backward communities and coa-
of Bengal small units"; and
ching schemes to help them to increase
their competitive ability would - be
(b) if so, the reaction of Govern-
undertaken; from middle school on-
ment thereto?
wards etforts will be directed towards
career planning and guidance with " THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
view to promote gainful employment. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DE-
VELOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAH-
Pact between India and U.S.S.R. on MAN ANSARI): (a) and (b). The
space concerned authorities are seized of
the special industrial situation of
West Bengal and constant endeav-
8913. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI ours are being made to meet the-
THANKAPPAN: situation.
SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU:
Closure of electric bulb manufacturing
Will the Minister of SPACE be
factories in West Bengal
pleased to state:
8920. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU:
(a) whether India and U.S.S.R. DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE
have signed a pact on space project; AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to
and state:
(a) the number of small electric

Cb) if so, the outlines thereof? bulb manufacturing factories in West
Bengal;
THE PRIME MINISTER. MINIS TER (b) the number of people employ-
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER ed in these factories;
(c) whether these factories are be-
INFORMATION AND BROADCAST-
ing closed down due to acute shortage
lNG AND MINISTER OF SPACE of raw materials; and
(SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI):
(a) and (b). The Indian Space Re- (d) if so, the measures being taken
search Organisation has signed an by the Centre to hold these small.
agreement in May, 1972 with the concerns?
Academy of Sciences of USSR, under
which a satellite wholly designed and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
fabricated in India will be launched MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
with the aid of a Soviet rocket carrier LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAh"-MAN
from a Soviet Cosmodrome during the ANSARI) : (a) About 150 approxi-
year 1974. mately.
'193 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 194
(b) It is reported that about 32,000 (SHRI MOHAN DHARIA): (a) It

people are employed in this industry is too early to say whether there has
in West Bengal. been a shortfall in the Plan expen-
diture of the current year.
(c) Shortage of raw materials is one
-of the reasons for closure of some (b) Does not arise.
units.
(d) The problems faced by these Quarters for Radio and T.V. Staff in
'units are being looked into. Cities
8924. SHRI LALJI BHAI: Will

"National Advisory Panel on Working
the Minister of INFORMATION AND
of Mass Communication Media
BROADCASTING be pleased to state:
8921. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY: (a) whether Government have

Will the Minister of INFORMATION some plans to construct quarters for
AND BROADCASTING be pleased the employees of Radio and Televi-
to state: sion Centres in big cities; and
(a) whether Government intend to (b) if so, the broad outlines

set up a national panel to advise them ;ther.eof?
-on problems connected with the work-
ing of mass communication media m THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
the country; and MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
(b) if so, the broad outlines
BIR SINHA): (a) and (b). Staff
thereof?
quarters already exist at some of the
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE stations of All India Radio. At 36
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND more centres staff quarters will be
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM constructed under the Fourth Plan.
BIR SINHA): (a) A proposal is Construction of Staff Quarters at the
under consideration to set up a Na- remaining centres will be undertaken
tional Council for Mass Communica- under the Fifth and subsequent Plans
tion. depending on availability of funds.
(b) Details of the Council are be- Return of various awards made by
ing worked out. President
8925. SHRI LALJI BHAI: Will

Shortfall in Plan Expenditure during the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
the current year pleased to state the names of the
persons who returned the various
8922. SHRI HARI KISHORE awards made by President of India
'SINGH: Will the Minister of during the last three years?
PLANNING be pleased to state:
(a) the reasons for likely shortfall MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
of nearly Rs. 100 crores in current (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): There are
year's plan expenditure, and several type of Presidential awards
and these are dealt with in different
(b) the step taken by Govern- Ministries. In so far as the awards
ment to rectify the situations? dealt with in the Ministry of Home
Affairs are concerned. no one who was
TIlE MINISTER OF STATE IN given any such award during the last
'THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING three years has returned it.
557 LS-7.
195 Written Answers MAY 2, 1973 Written Answers · 196
Posts lying vacant in various Depart- THE MINIS'DER OF STATE IN

ments o( Government of India THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING
(SHRI MOHAN DHARIA) : (a)
8926. SHRI LALJI BHAI: Will the and (b). The- responsibility of formu-
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to lating detailed programmes of deve-
state; lopment for the hill areas rests essen-
tially with the concerned State Gov-
(a) whether a number of posts in ernments. The role of the Hill Areas
various departments of Government Cell is to study the problem of the
of India are lying vacant for long pe- hill areas, assist the States in the
riod even after selection of candidates formulation of schemes for such areas
from U.P.S.C.; and and organise interaction between the
Central and State Governments on
(b) if so, the reasons therefor?
questions' of land capability, resource
endowment, marketing and proces-
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN
Sing activities and the concomitant
THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
infra -structural facilities;
AND IN THE DEPARTMENT OF
PERSONNEL (SHRI RAlYI NIWAS (c) A resume cf the work done by
MIRDHA): (a) and (b). Sometimes the Hill Areas Cell during 1972-73 is
there is delay in the appointment of contained in _the attached statement.
selected candidates because after se-
lection is made by the Union Public Statement
Service Commission and list of ap-
proved candidates is sent to the Mi- (1) The Hill Areas Cell provided
nistry /Department/ Office concerned, technical and secretarial service to
certain formalities such as verification the Committee of Direction for the
cf character and antecedents and me- Development of U.P. Hill Areas. It
dical examination etc. have to be included the preparation of survey de-
gone through before the selected can- signs and questionnaires and technical
didate is appointed. The completion papers on different aspects of hill de-
of these formalities necessarily in- velopment. In addition, the hill areas
volve some time which results in- a Cell also liaised with the concerned
time-lag between the selection of the Ministries on the question of taking
candidate and his actual appcintment up special programmes including rural
to the vacant post. engineering surveys in the hill areas
of U.P.
Schemes formulated by the Planning
Cell for the Development of Hill Areas (2) The Hill Areas Cell sent out
during Fifth Plan teams to selected hill districts of
U.P. for discussions on the review and
appraisal of en-going programmes and
8927. PROF. NARAIN CHAND
the formulation of district plans.
PARASHAR: Will the Minister of
PLANNING be pleased to state: (3) Preliminary discussions on the
work of Plan preparation for Jammu
(a) whether any concrete. schemes
and Kashmir were held by the Hill
have been drawn up by the Planning Areas Cell with the State representa-
Commission Cell for the development
tive.
of hill areas for the consideration of
the Government and the Planning (4) The Hill Areas Cell made a
Commission and for inclusion in the general review of the information base
Fifth Five Year Plan; which existed in the States of Ncrth
Eastern Region with a view to identi-
(b) if so, the main outline of these fying its adequacy or otherwise for
schemes; and the preparation of a strategy of plan
(c) the resume of the work done by development for the North Eastern
this Cell in the year 1972-73? Region.
197 Wr..tten Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 198
Provision of infra-structure for the (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof?
rtapid! ind~riaJisatiQn of backward
areas
THE MINISTlER OF STATE IN
THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING
8928. PROF. NARAIN CHAND (SHRI MOHAN DHARIA): (a) and
PARASHAR: Will the Minister of '(b). Because of the considerable
PLANNING be pleased to state: variety of the existing institutional
~-.- and administrative structure at the
(a) whether 'Planning Commission district level in different states, the
or the Union Government have taken Planning Commission has not formu-
note of the repeated plea by Members lated any concrete proposals for set ..
of Parliament for the provision of ting up of Planning Boards at the
infra-structure in the form of provi- district level. The present scheme for
sion of railway lines, electricity and which the Planning Commission has
transport for the rapid industrialisation offered financial assistance envisages
of the industrially backward areas; only the strengthening and reorganisa-
;:::::a.
tion of the Planning machinery at
(b) if so, whether Government or the State level into functional units.
the Planning Commission have set One of the proposed functional unit
up any Committee to examine the is expected to deal with the problems
provision of this infra-structure to of the formulation and integration of
the various backward regions in the district plans within the framework of
country and make recommendations the State plans.
to the Ministries concerned for the
provision of these items in their next
proposals; and A.I.R. progr""n''Y'~Sfor children below
10 years of age
(c) if not, whether proposal to set
up any such committee is under con- 8930. PROF. NARAIN CHAND
sideration? P ARASHAR: Will the Minister of
INFORMATION AND BROADCAST-
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ING be pleased to state:
THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING
(SHRI MOHAN DHARIA): (a) Yes,
(a) whether there are any program-
Sir.
mes under the All India Radio for
(b) and Cc). The Planning Commis- children below the age of 10;
sion has set up a \Task Force on Pro-
motion of Industries in selected Back- (b) if so, the names of the program-
ward Districts for the Fifth Plan. The mes and the duration cf time allotted
speedier development of industries i~ to such programmes; and
the selected backward districts is also
under examination of a Study Group Cc) whether the facilities to partici-
set U9 by the Ministry of Industrial pate in such programmes are provid-
Development. ed to children of all States?

Planning Boards at District Level MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING ~SHRI DHARAM
892'). PROF. NARAIN CHAND BIR SINHA): (a) Yes, Sir.
PARASHAR: Will the Minister of
PLANNING be pleased to state: (b) The names of programmes vary
from Station to Station; the duration
(a) whether Government have for- ranges fr·-:'''TI15 minutes to 60 minutes
mulatej any concrete proposals for the per programme.
setting up of ,Planning Boards at the
District level; and (c) Yes, Sir.
Written Answers MAY 2, 1973 Written Answers 200
199
(b) whether it was indicated there-
Nuclear Energy Complex in Western
Uttar Pradesh in that Government were considering
introduction of' an element of compul-
sion on those who want to import '"
8932. DR. H. P. SHARMA: Will the technology to undertake an obligation
Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be to either set up research development
pleased to state: facilities themselves Or link them-
«
(a) '~~hether a team of scientists and selves with any existing R &. D insti-
engineers of the Bhabha Atomic Re- tution to absorb and improve upon
the technology so imported, if so, the
search Centre which undertook a
study two years ago about the feasi- decision taken by Government in the
matter; and
bility of having a Nuclear Energy
Complex in Uttaj- Pradesh has sug-
....
(c) what other proposals were
gested the setting up of such a com- mooted at the seminar and Govern-
plex iilll the fuel starved Western ment's reaction thereto?
Uttar JlDradesh;
(b) i\f so, the broad features of the DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE
contemplated complex and its estimat- AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C.
ed cost; and SUBRAMANIAM): (a) and (b), While
inaugurating a seminar on Industrial
(c) Government's decision thereon? Growth on the 6th April, 1973, it was
stated that importers of technology
THE: PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER should set up necessary R &. D estab-
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER lishments themselves, or link them-
OF ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF selves with an existing R &. D estab-
INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- lishment in the field, to eliminate any
ING AND MINISTER OF SPACE need for the repetitive import of the
(SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI): (a) same technology and to build up indi-
to (c). A working group appointed by genous capability as quickly as possi-
the Atomic Energy Commission to ble. .
evaluate the concept of nuclear-
powered agro-Industr ial complexes A condition is being imposed while
has submitted its report. Among the approving foreign collaboration agree-
projects studied by the working group ments, that within the duration of the
is one relating to the establishment of agreement, the Indian Company should -..
such a complex in the Gangetic plain. develop and set up their 'Own design
Further detailed studies on these pro- and research facilities so that con-
j ect's are in progress. A decision re- tinued dependence upon the foreign
garding the setting up of tlfe projects collaborator beyond the period of
will be taken by Government after the collaboration will not be necessary,
studies are completed, (c) Some of the proposals made at
the Seminar were:-
(i) need for evolving an appropriate
Seminar on Industrial Growth through mix of foreign and indigenous tech-
Self -Reliance nology (ii ) creation of data banks and
technological documentation, (iii) a
893:3. DR. H. P. SHARMA: Will the full exploitation of scientific and tech-
Minister/of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- nical man power, (iv) strengthening
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- of design capability in R &. D set ups.
NOLOGY be pleased to state: (v) attaching strong engg, divisions
to research organisations, (vi) streng-
(a)lfi7hether a seminar on Indus- thening of consultancy orgns. and
trial Growth through self-reliance (vii) standardisation of costs, designs
was inaugurated by him on the April and specifications. Government have
6, 1973, at New Delhi; noted these proposals.
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WT flWTT *P3ft 9RTT% *Ft prqn sp^T 8937. SIIRI VASANT SATHE WxU
far -^ rr sr?7r % w f f a fsFft ^tstp- the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleaded to state:
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growing popularity of ‘spotlight’ on
current topics feature of the News
Serv ces Division of A I R whether
Government propose to introduce the
feature on regulai basis on Station
catering to the listeners m regional
languages, and
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srrr m w sftfir wft tstt THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
5RT fa^TT WT £ I 7 3 TT ?ftfH BROADCASING (SHRI DHARAM
cr^rft s ? r m c n r 's m BIR SINHAj (a) and <b) The spot
TOT % S'TO'T T? **ft J'TPT light programme covers a tonic each
da\ of dominant news interest from ■»
p% £ 1 w *3wr sr^r % national viewpoint The programme »s
q^rft fsFTi *r 90 qfwrar wtft m ifw related from the three metropolitan
cities and 9 other stations It has
156 mTWK ittK 30 g ^ tfr q w ^ ir also a Hindi counterpart in “ Sanaa-
HTW ^TT •? | J r?T% W RT, ^5T yiki” which is broadcast by Delhi
f*rw?V % fat* 34 qf< w spr^r uTfa»*r# Station,
51 mrER nYr 1 CTt«Bt*T tmmm

There is no proposal at present to
^ ^ fr ? ^ 1 1 % vnrf»w
Introduce regular topical commenta
^ x w fx f^ w i 1 ries in regional languages.
Revision of Rate of Hostel Grants to Tribes regarding revision of Hostel

Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe grants to Scheduled Caste and Sche
Students duled Tribe students, considering the
rise in the cost of living.
8948. SHRI GADADHAR SAHA
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS
West Bengal
be pleased to state.
Agreed in principle In fact an up
(a> whethei the recommendation ward revision m reg^r j to grant for
made by the Committee on the Wel construction/extension ot hostels as
fare of Scheduled Castes and Schedul also for boarding charges has already
ed Tribes m their Third Report (Fiftn been effected So far as boarding
Lok Sabha) regarding need for up charges are concerned it can safely be
ward rev us1on of rate of hostel graru« said that the existing rate is not quite
to Scheduled Caste and Scheduled adequate to meet the rising cost of
Trioe students has been implemented living Fuither revision is not possi
by the Central Government and <ht ble at the moment for want of funds
State Governments particulailv by the
West Bengal Government, Gujarat
The rates of hostel grunts have
(b) if so, the decision taken m this
been revised from Rs 30 to Rs 33
tegard fixate-wise, and
per month per inmate irom 1st Novem
ber, 1971
(cj if not, the reasons therefor''
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Tamil Nadu

MIMSTR\ OF HOME AFFAIRS
The rates of food charges to the
(SIIRI F II MOHSIN) (at to tc)
boarders in the government hostel*
The recommendation made bi the
have been enhanced by R> 5 per men*
Committee on the Welfare of Schedul
sem per loarder with effect from
ed Castes and Scheduled Tribes w is
1971-72
lorwaided to all the State Govern
ments and Union Teiritoiv Adminis
trations Replies so far received from Mysore
some of the Stale Governments are A scheme for construction of hostel
given m the Statement attached buildings at Taluk headciuaiters and
at other rural places is being imple
In so far as the Central Govern mented by the State Government
ment is concerned the matter regard Under the scheme the Taluk Develop
mg increasing the rates of Post- ment Boards are called noon to pro
matric Scholarships Is under active vide free sites m addition to meeting
consideration of the Government ‘t the cost of construction of such build
mav however, be stated that the rate.* in g s over and above the Government
of maintenance charges admissible grant of Rs 50 000 and Rs 37,500 for
u* der the Post-Matric Scholarship vonstruction of hostel buildings at
S t e r n e have been increased for m eri- Taluk headquarters, and at other
touous students ic ., those who have rural places respectively The response
s e ’ ured at least 60 pei cent marks m from the Taluk Development Boards
then last final examination has been quite encouraging Hence,
an.v r e v i s i o n in the rate of grants
Statem ent doe^ not arise at present
Statement showing the action taken Orissa

by the State Governments on the re
commendation of the Committee on Due to abnormal ruse m the prices
the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and of the consumers’ Roods, the State
207 'Written Answer* M AY 2,. 1973 He, QvestUm of PrtiHltg* zatK
Government have been pleased to the Minister ot INDUSTRIAL HB»

enhance the existing rates o l boarding VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AIB»
charges in special hostels stipends, TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state:
scholarships and Post-matric scholar
ships at a fiat rate of Rs. 10 per stu* (a) whether Government propose * »
dents per month from 1st November revoke the licence issued to M/s» JL
1972. Stone and Company (India) Ldmttm*
for opening a new unit at Than* Cam
Haryana plex (Maharashtra) in view oc ttMT
resentment expressed by Govemaumfe
The State Government grants addi
of West Bengal and by the Public a m i
tional Hostel allowances at the raU
o l Rs. 15 to Scheduled Castes students* original refusal from Maha&adMnft
living in the Hostels out of their own Government for its setting up in Use
funds over and above the maintenance area; and
charges of Rs. 13 to Rs. 15 per month
admissible under the Post-Matric (b) if reply to part (a) is in liar
Scholarship Scheme. negative, the reasons therefor?
Kerala THE MINISTER OP INDUSTKIAI*

DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AM D
Actual boarding and lodging charges TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SU B R A -
are given to Scheduled Caste and MANIAM): <a> No. Sir.
Scheduled Tribe students (for Post-
matric studies) steying in the College (b) The licence was issued to M /&
Hostel and recognised hostels Hence J. Stone and Co Ltd.. for m arndje-
the question of enhancement of board turlng navigational aid*; m MaharaÂr-
ing grants does not arise tra after examining the proposal ow
merits. Hence the fact that this adfr-
Boirding charges pavablo to the vity will be undertaken in Maharasdb-
students admitted to the Cosmopolitan tia would not constitute grounds* f b »
Hostels have been enhanced from revocation.
R$. 65 to Rs. 75 p.m per student. The
boarding grants pavable to the b o r
der's ol Welfare Hostel (for Pre-matrie
studies; is Rs. 45 pm . per student 12 hrs.
There is no proposal for th<» enhance
RE. QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE
ment of boarding grant to the stu
dents staying in the above ho.stel at
SHRI K. P. UNNIKR1SHNAW
present.
(Badagara). Sir, I have given notice
Rajasthan under rule 222. of a privilege motion
against Shri Madhu Limaye and five
The rates of the aided hostels- have others of the Indian E xpress group,
already been enhanced to Rs. 55 pet I have seen you and you kindly
student pei month for 5th to 8th clas permitted to raise the matter in th e
ses and Rs. 60 per month per stu House.
dent for yth to 11th <lasses with eJTect
from 1st July. 1971. from Rs 40 and
MR. SPEAKER: You have g iv e n
Rs. 45 respectively, which amounts to
notice and sent a copy of the notice
90 per cent the total expenditure in
curred by the Voluntary Organisations to Shri Madhu Limaye. Shri Madhu
Limaye just sent me— (Interruptiam s}
—he said that I should persuade jnue
Revocation of Licence issued to M /s. to withdraw it and he wanted tn*
J. Stone and Company (India)
ask you whether you will be prepatno*.
yjMifaA
8939. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will
to withdraw it or -not.
*0 9 Re. Question of VAISAKHA 12 1895 (SAKA) Papers Laid
SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: *nj ffcrora :

We are not prepared to withdraw it. €& % m
araro f^ T SfPTTT, ?ffT
MR, SPEAKER: If he says that it *^rr srfer «rnr
may be postponed till tomorrow and i
then he will be sending his reply----

SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN:
He has said something. He is pre The Member is present here. It is
sent in the House, and let him say a straightforward question whether he
whether it is correct or not. There has uttered it or not. He says he
is no question o f any detailed reply. will go into it and give a detailed
reply. The question is whether he
MR. SPEAKER: It was a holiday
has uttered those words on the Chow-
yesterday. It came late today. Let
patti beach or not; whether it ha?
the reply come from him.
been factually reported by the Indian
E xpress Bombay edition.
He is present here. We do not with
MR. SPEAKER: It is a simple ques
draw it. Let him say whether it is
tion to Mr. Madhu Limaye; (In ter
correst or not.
ruptions) . May I request you to please
sit down? Now, the question is whe
MR. SPEAKER: We take it up to
ther he made that statement. It is
morrow.
a question of fact.
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There is no use postponing it. Let PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE
him say whether it is correct or not.
A IS (C onduct) Rules, 1973 and
MR. SPEAKER: The Member has A nnual Report of C entral V igil
requested that if you are not accept ance C om m ission for 1971-72
ing h is request to withdraw it he will
give a reply tomorrow. We will take THE MINISTER OP STATE IN
It up tomorrow. THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
211 Papers liCnd M AX 2, 1978 Comm, on welfare o f S.C. 212
& S.T. Reports
AN D IN THE DEPARTMENT O i under sub-section <1) <?f section 619A

PERSONNEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS o f the Companies Act, 1956 —
M IR D H A ). I beg to lay on the
Table
(x) Review by the Government
( D A copy o f the All India Ser on the working o f the Instru
vices (Conduct) Amendment mentation Limited, Kota, for
Rules, 1973 (Hindi and Eng the year 1971-72.
lish versions) published in
Notification No G S R 405 in (ii) Annual Report o f the Instru
Gazette o f India dated the mentation Limited, Kota for
21st A pu l, 1973, under sub the year 1971-72 along with
section (2) o f section 3 of the Audited Accounts and the
the AH India Services Act Comments o f the Comptroller
1951 [Placed in L ibrary See and Auditor General thereon
No LT-4928/731
I Placed m Library. S ee No LT-
(2) (1) A copy of the Annual 4931/73]
Report (llm di and English
versions) of the Central
Vigilante Commission for the P atents R ules, 1972
year 1971-72
(ji) Memorandum (Hindi and MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE
English versions) explaining LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN
the reasons for non-acceptance ANSARI) 1 beg to lay on the
by Go\ernment of the Com Table—
mission’s advice in certain
cases mentioned m the above (1) A cop> of the Patents Rules,
R epoit 1972 (Hindi and English ver
1Placed in Library. See No LT- sions) published in Notifica
4929/73] tion No SO 301(E) in
C n il Defence (Amendment) Regula Gazette of India dated the
tions, 1973 20th A pu l, 1972, under sec
tion 160 o f the Patents Act,
1970
(SHRI F H MOHSIN) I beg to lav
( 11) A statement (Hindi and Eng
on the Table a copy of the Civil
lish \ersions) showing reasons
Defence (Am endm ent) Regulations,
for delay in laying the above
1973 (Hindi and English versions)
Notification
published in Notification No G S K
382 in G azette o f India dated the [Placed tn Library. S ee No LT-
14th April l ‘)73 umler sertum J>0 of 4932/73J
the Civil Defence A ct 1968 [Plated
in Library S ee No LT-4930/73]
R e v ie w and A nnual R eport o t
COMMITTEE ON THE WELFARE
I nstrumentation L t d , K ota for OF SCHEDULED CASTES AND
1971-72 SCHEDULED TRIBES
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE S ixteenth , Sevente* nth and

MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE Eighteenth R eports
SHRI BUTA SINGH (Rupar) I
MUKHERJEE) I beg to lay on the
beg to present the follow ing Reports
Table a ropy each Of the follow ing
o f the Committee on the W elfare of
papers (Hindi and English versions)
213 s m In
troduced VAISAKHA 12
, 1895(SAKA
) Mat
t er unde
- 2
14
Rule 377
Scheduled Ca
ste
s and S
chedu
led Cen
tra
l Ex
cise
s and Sa
ltA
ct, 1944
.”
Tribes
:—
Th
e mo
tion wa
s adop
ted.
(1
)S ixteenth Repo rt rega rding
action taken by Gove rnmen t SHRIK. R GANESH
; S
ir,Iin
tro

on the re commenda t
ion s con du
cethe B
ill
.
tainedin the ir Seventh Re
por t on the Minis
try o f
Defence (Departmen t of 12
.08 h
rs.
Defence Productions)—Re
servations for Schedu led MATTERS UNDER RULE 377
Castes and S cheduled Tribe.
-*
in De fence Pub lic Se c tor (
1) Repo rted Looting ofjewelsfrom
Unde r
tak ings
. A
ir Ind ia Cargo Term ina
l at
<2
) Seven teenth Reportrega rding Kennedy A irport.New York
act
ion taken by Gove rnmen t
onthe re commenda tionscon
.$W
Wr
r *
tainedinthe irE ighth Repo r
t
on the M inistry o
f Commun i
i
f
f P
TWR
cations (Posts and Telegraphs 3
TT t
nqp
rq~
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T
Depa rtmen t
) — Re servat
ion s
s
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r*r%
for and Emp loymen tof Sche
duled C a
ste*, and S cheduled 5srr
a %st* ^Tf
f
3pR
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tpr=
Tribes mthe Po sts and Tele TO t
frr CT
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pr
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tmen t
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t rega rding
f
ar fPTF ‘
STR
*qr
action taken by Gove rnmen t
onthe re commenda tionscon i1
tained m the i
r N inth Repo rt
on the M inis
try o f F inance
(Depa rtmen to f Bank ing)— ^
rsrap
- ^ ^
Rese rvationsfo r
, and Em ^T
;r
^rR
- §
*tf
ti
ploymen to fS chedu led Ca s
tes
V* *rm VT?HT
and S chedu led Tnbes in the
Sta te Bank o f India and i ts IHR
far
T % S? ^TT
sub s
idiarie s
. 5
5f
lf
§zrf
ar ^TT| I
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CENTRAL EXC
ISES AND SALT f% C
Tr
r
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sq[
- fast
(AMENDMENT) BILL*
?& *
pttrvrT
3 i
THE M INISTER OF STATE IN
THE M INISTRY OF F INANCE(SHR I
u
i) Non-availability of foodgra
ins
K R GANESH )
: I beg to move fu
r
and C
kment in G
ujarat
leave to in
troduce a Bi
ll fur
ther to
amend the Cen t
ral Exc
ises and Salt
Act
, 1944 SHR I K. S
. CHAVDA (Pa tan):I
thank you very muchfor a
llowing me
MR
. SPEAKER* The que
stion i
s*
*0 rai
se two important mat
ters under
*
*Th
atleave be gran
ted toin
tro
rule 377
, regarding the S ta
te c f
duce a Bi
ll fu
rther to amend the Gujara
t. One i t rega
rding the non-
•Pub
lished in Gaze
tte o
f Ind
ia Ex
trao
rdina
ry, Pa
rtI
I, se
ction 2
,
da
ted 2-5-73
.
t
lntroduced w
ith the re
commenda
tion o
fthe P
res
iden
t.
215 Matter under Rule 377 MAY 2, 107J Fitm c* BUI, 1979 216
[Shri K. S. Chavda] speak outside. D on't be sensitive

availability o f foodgrains in Gujarat about this. Y ou may also g o on
The Gujarat Government gives at saying anything outside.
present only one Kg. of grain per
adult per montth. Four >starvation PROF, MADHU DANDAVATE;
deaths have taken place in Suren- Sir, though this is not a breach o f
dem agar district, police opened fire privilege, this is a breach of conven
on food rioters as a result o f which tion and propriety.
one person died on the spot and some
person^ w ere injured. Therefore I MR. SPEAKER: There is no ques-
request the Government to release tion o f propriety about it. ShrL
at least 1.5 lakhs of tonnes of food- Pandey.
grams per month to the State of 12.12 hrs.
Gujarat. <& a\,
My second point is about the acute m ( th f t m w )

shortage of cement. According to
«rc3qrsr r t , w w t it<t#
today’s Hindustan Times the Associ
ated Cement Factory at Sevalia has q r sfarc srm it ?rw #
been closed down from Saturday last 5fr m w r ^ f^nsf^T «tt
due to shortage of coal supply; as a
% sr*n*r % %•
result o f which there has been acute
shortage of cement in the State of s n jw f % *m n r qrr q frrcm l 3r
Gujarat. I <am experiencing myself ^TF VRwm r & |
some difficulty; my hostel for Sche
duled Castes is binder construction in
s b ts ^ i^ fom % far #
Dhmoj and no cement is available for fs m w t 'i f r wrr* *mr w&r
the last three months. m r i i % g r r r
3r$T m srfar § mm jm zw
Therefore Government, Government
should make a statement regarding h r «PT zfrr J im I
this and give some more cement to m mT'7%-*rrr m wt frmarr wr
the State of Gujarat. ^TT WTF'T q ^ ; SRTFr Wfc &
q- ^HTn f % % ^PT f J 3ft
MR. SPEAKER. N ow Shri R S.
*r<t irr* «rr snrw sf^t i
Pandey may resume his speech on the
Finance Bill.
fsn R t % n x r e n *fr arfr srtertfro
PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE war *r <rr ^rrarfcr <r|^rr f,
(Raiapur). Before that, I have a srriT ftrr %. ^ sft 3*r
submission to make here I had
written a letter to you this morning s w ifo r f w I j v*rr n r vw >£ s t a
pointing out to you that though we $ ?ft o*rn^r *r fereft $r
are going to have a special discussion
under Rule 193 on the supersession w m rxm m m m
of the judges, the Prime Minister had Q Q o w c tfW r vft
chosen to make a policy statement
on the supersession o f the judges erf^r *rr w r i m % ifr «r%nT»
outside this House, from the May Day
platform. «rr f a f^TPT if a m v
mm vfrc
MR. SPEAKER; I have not allow
v f h p r ^ 3 T ( i f* r ? r iW V w f t
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policy. She has got every right to iffo r f *ttK
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hours out of which 5 hours, ait* for
t \ ?* %sv s r.*t isnfa* Gt nei al Discussion. 4 hours foi Clause^
T O 'T T>T and I hour for Third Reading But
^ s rr m =h mi ^ rrr st ?nw<- the programme seems to be a httJe
dislocated Already we havt almost
w sz «r i m r s f a j * * hr*TT?r tak(*n 6 hours foi Gineral Di'-<.us*>ton
rnfT t"i T rf iTsrtfnm # r *? *i.v r i ThrU means foi Clauses we will *mv «»
?rrn r n n>fr ^fT ? T 7^ to reduce it to 3 hours I am n*>t
gom^ to go he; ond half an hour m oie
^ rrfe n , rrr x fts n fflr fa^rra'T tt ?tft I w ill ac<- ommodrite two or three more
fa *TT3 <fc*PTT TT < | speakers and then take up the
clauses
THE MINISTER OF PARLIAM EN

jtott f r fa d tft ?rm ^r *7rfa>- T A R Y AFFAIRS (SHRI K RAGHU
RAMA1AH) Sir, out o f 10 hours
t i ^ -w i *nfor i t o pr allocated for General Discussion, I be
Sit* 5TPFT H 1«T
.s3T H? I *frr ^ OT lieve about 4 hours are left for
qTTw^rr v * srg ^ f \ General Discussion. If you could
kindly help us, you may call the
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Minister tom orrow Y ou can reduce
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MR SPEAKER: Yes. I said, 5
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325 Finance Bill, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 <SAKA) Finance Bill, 197 > 226
Discussion. I w ill call the Minister will make everybody weep. It is a
tomorrow. So, within the time left shocking situation. I say ‘shocking’
for General Discussion, «g many because the mismanagement of famine
speakers as possible w ill be accom camps is something that has to l>e
modated, seen to be believed, and I feel it my
duty to bring before the hon. House
DR. KARNI SINGH (Bikaner j : the conditions* so that the> can bt
Mr. Speaker, Sir, in November last, rectified because the next two months
while speaking on the food debate which are going to be the most critical.
raised by Mr. Gaekwad and myself
and the rising prices, I had said that
a combination o f food shortage and I have brought with me a bottle of
rising prices would create an explo water which is being consumed by
sive situation. Today, w e are adding human beings. This is the water
to that famine and I must mention which is given to people to drink. I
before the hon. House that food short know that for thousands o f years
age, rising prices and famine, all to - people have drunk water like this, but *
gether, have created a volcanic condi in the present age o f science and
tion. I only hope that our Govern technology, with the immense wealth
ment is fully aware o f the situation. that the Government has today to
solve the problems of the people and
The widespread famine throughout with all this talk o f ‘Garibi Hatao’,
the country has been causing a great socialism and social justice, if this is
deal o f concern to everyone. But 1 the water that free India’s citizens
do feel that there arc lots o f troubles are expected to consume in the year
that the people are facing in the 1973, I think that is a very sad slate
country which to a large extent is o f affairs.
due to mismanagement and lack o f
coordination in the various Minis
tries o f the Government of India and Wages in famine camps uie not
more so between the Centre and the being paid in time and the food sup
States. ply conditions are absolutely -shock
ing. Wherever I went, people &ay
It has been said—I hope, this is that, even if they are prepared to
not correct— that w hile deciding how spend the money, they cannot buy
much aid to give to various fam ine- food. They are living in sub-human
stricken areas that Rajasthan, which conditions, under grass roofs, \n
is used to perennial famine, should 120° F, in the shade.
receive less aid because it can look
after itself and that other States
which have not had famine for long Employment is inadequate. In
w ill be given more aid. If this is Bikaner district Government has
true, this step-motherly treatment taken a decision— I do not question
should not take place within one the decision—that everybody w in
country. I hope, the Finance Minis w ork in the Rajasthan CanaL Bikaner
ter w ill see that all farmr><*-*trick«,n district 150 mile* ac«*o<f5 *nrt n
States are given equal share o f as this fjrm n c-sin cken area. Co\ e m
sistance to tide ovt-r (the difficuU inent expocts that people v iil take
period. their wives and small chilJi?r\ antf
cattle and move on to the site o f
For the last one month I had the the Rajasthan Canal. In *he past
occasion to tour the famine-stricken years— in fact, I would go back even
areas o f Rajasthan, partiqularly the 60 o r 70 years ago—fam ine relief had
itosKh»w«steni part* o f Rajasthan. been provided to people within 10-
W hat I have seen with m y ow n eyes mile radious o f the village. I f you
867 L S -4 ,
227 Finance Bill, 1973 M AY 2, 1078 W m nc* BiU. i m 228
JDr, K am i Singh.] Ration cards are often delayed.

The Famine baa \mtk delared late.
w ere to send « Parliamentary Com-
A s far back as November, w e had
mis io n consisting o f members from
raised this question on the floor o f the
different sections of the House to go
House—-Mr. Fatesinghrao and « y *
an<? look at the conditions under
self had jointly raised it—in a debate
which those people are expected to
on food and had warned the House
live vi iU their wives, children and
that the situation was going to bo so
old pjreriti, they would find that they
difficult that, by April-M ay, unless
are eifin , 'out a miserable existence
adequate steps w ere taken tor food
wtt the 70 paise or so which they
water and employment in the famine
collect a.> wages paid for job done.
area w e were going to have a very
AnU, on top of that, this is what they
difficult time. The famine cotie is
are made to drink! I think, a Welfare
there, but it has been applied late.
Staê has to look into this matter.
Famines are declared as late as Nov
Although the Canal has to be built
ember or December. I am afraid such
Quickly, this is not the only way pro-
a situation cannot be allowed to exist.
* vide famine relief. If you want the
I would like to tell the hon. Minister
Tfaiaflhan Canal or anv such project
opposite— and I say it with a little
to be finished quickly, the Centre has
bitterness because I have seen the
to take it up. We have raised this
human suffering this time— that
before the Government and before if such a situation happened 25 years
the Consultative Committee of Irriga ago when India just became inde
tion and Power, and it has been unani pendent, if such a situation had been
mously accepted that the Rajasthan allowed to exist in the Princely
Canal should be a Central subject States, in the time o f any ruler, I
Take it up under your wing and fini3h am sure the Government of India
it quickly, so that you can solve the w ould not have tolerated it, and the
problem o f famines for all times to rulers’ heads would have rolled But
come. today .such « situation exists and they
tolerate it, even this House tolerates
it. It is something I cannot under
stand . . .
Then again, alternate work is not SHRI S. R. DAMANI (Sholapur):
planned and given to people in In one State 35 lakhs o f people are
famine camps. A piece o f w ork is w orking on famine relief works.
given for, say, 15 days, and after that
work is over, they have to wait fox DR. K ARN i SINGH: The hon.
ten days or so until a new w ork is Member was b o m in m y constitu
given. In the meantime where is the ency. W hy does he not go and tour
sustenance for those people who are that area?
eking out a miserable existence? And There is also a new rule this time,
Governm ent talks about social justice!
which is a very unfortunate rule, that
Is this social justice? I would ask only 50 per cent o f the people in a
the Finance Minister to send his ow n fam ily w ill be employed. If a fam ily
representatives, the hon. lady Minis consists o f ten m ajor members, five
ter; I know, she has a very soft w ill be employed in the famine camps
heart; if she w ere to go on behalf and five w ill sit back with no employ*
o f the Finance Minister and see the
conditions. I am sure that her report
ment at all. Also boys under 18 sure
no longer em ployed like in past
w ill be correct, and that report w ill famines. I do not know what this new
show that such conditions cannot be law is. But they also have to be
allowed to be continued in a socialist led. The lather earns 70 o r 80 paise
State. per a^jî lie lias to trek Jong dis
349 Finance Bill, 1973 VAISA&HA 12. 1895 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 473 230
tances lo r work and heis quite better deal and a better standards of
hungry. H ow can he feed the entire living'.
fam ily o f children o f 12 or 18 years
•of age if they are not given any em The recent verdict of the Supreme
ployment? 1 feel this is a slur on our Court has imposed a very very great
democracy, on our socialism and this responsibility on Members of Parlia
mis-management has to end. ment. No matter what we may say
theoretically, the fact* now is clear
I have raised in this House for the
that Parliament is supreme. But
last 15 years on numerous occasions whatever else may be said, the fact
the question o f the population in- remains that the Judiciary does not
•crease in relation to food supply and have the power that it had a week or
1 d o not want to go into these figures so earlier. Therefore, I feel that
again. But there are two things 1 whatever legislations we MPs, in our
should like to place before the House wisdom, bring about in this House
t o show how the population increase should be done with a great deal o f
is going to necessitate additional food care because the Supreme Court is
imports. I would quote from a speech no longer the watch dog that it was.
made b y Mr, Shmde in a discussion Therefore, whatever legislation is
w e raised here last November. 1 brought should be such that w e know
spoke on fam ily planning and food where the shoe pinches. If w e want
•deficit. This is what Mr. Sinde said: to inflict something on the people
o f India, then w e must know and
“ When w e take into considera-
w e must also be prepared to share
I'on this increased growth rate, then
some o f these things.
what would be the additional re
quirements? According to our cal Mr. Chavan, I believe, has got some
culations it comes to the order of law on the anvil that anybody who
12 to 18 million tonnes roughly. evades taxes w ill be sent to jail for
From the year 1966 onwards the seven years. This is nothing which
population increase has been o f the surprises me because 1 knew and
order o f 14 per ce n t” 1 had forecast this that India would
ultimately travel on the road to Com
H ere is the Newsweek Magazine which
munist dictatorship or Hitlerism.
says that in 1980, that is 7 years from From Gandhian philosophy o f >ester-
to-day. the w orld w ill need a quarter
day w e only talk to-day o f imprison
moire o f food than it consumed in 1970. ment or jail. Is that the motivation
to stay honest? Y ou tax a person out
1 feel that the Ministers are to-day o f his existence— sometimes double
far too scared to rise this problem, his total income in direct taxes.
a problem that Japan has not only Thereafter you say ‘Seven years in
raised but solved. It is like a surgeon jail*. I would like to ask the Finance
w ho knows that there is cancer and Minister, ‘Is it his intention that
w ill give the man medicine, a tem India should one day become like
porary palliative but w ill not go down what Germany was in Hitler’s time
to the core o f the problem o f remov with camps like Buchanwald and
ing the cancer. For India, population Belsen?’ I f things g o this way, it
explosion is going to be the cancer will happen inevitably. It w ill com e
fcut none o f oar Ministers, not even that way. Prosecution o f a small
th e Prime Minister; w ill get up on
percentage of people w ill ultimately
the platform and say, Tor God's sake lead to the same thing that happened
let us d o something so that people to the Jews in Germany. If ynur
are living on this earth today problem is that too much wealth &»
* W have a better way of life and a concentrated in the fcanda o f mmm
231 Ftnance Bill, 1973 MAY 2, 1973 FinaMc# Silt. 1973 33$
fDr. Karni Singh] taxes, a man is faced on the one side

people take it away. I have said so with dire consequences o f being sent
dozens o f tunes on the floor o f this to jail and on the other side he knows
House Impose a capital levy and there is going to be no old age insur
take away that wealth and bring ance or there is not going to b e any
about equitable distribution o f wealth social security in the country—I had
at' one go, Finish it once and for myself introduced Bills to this effect
all and make up your mind that no in the House and they w ere defeat
Indian would have more than ‘X ’ ed—in that situation if h e has a
amount of money, that no Indian choice to give a bribe o f Rs. 10000 or
would have more than 'X ’ number of to go to jail for seven years I want
houses to live in. OK But, you to ask the Finance Minister which
tax a man out o f his existence and; choice he w ill take. 1 have great
thereafter; sit here and say that that admiration and respect fo r the Fin
man has evaded tax and put him in ance Minister, but I w ould like to
jail for seven years Ultimately, the ask how the average human being
day w ill come when Mr. Chavan will w ill react to a situation o f this type?
not be here, when I would not be A re you going to bring in laws which
<here; but the day is coming when this will increase corruption? Y ou know
country w ill go the w ay Hitler went, the amount o f corruption m this coun
the way Stalin went; when 50,000 try Ask the youth or a man in the
people w ere killed in one night m street how he gets a 10b today. Either
Russia and 60 lakhs o f people were he has to go to a Minister and get his
put into gas chambers in Geimany ... ‘Sifaribh’ or alternatively he has to
pay a thousand rupees before he can
( Interruptions). Y ou would not be
<*et a 30b even in the Railways. This
there I would not be here but the
is vour employment condition. What
direction m which the country is
will you do? Are you going to see
going, the w ay you have acted with
that every man is going to survive in
the Supreme Court at the present
this country only through giving bri
moment w here the Judges have been
bes only because you bring in a legis
superseded, I think, all this is taking
lation which is inhuman and absurd
the country m the direction which
ftnd cannot be follow ed’ I can un
none of us wants to see. We do not
derstand that you w ill say ‘yes’ P rof
want to see in India a communist
Kaldor said this and that and such
dictatorship W e do not want to see a
and such law or provision obtains in
Hitler here If you bring in an absurd Russia and America W hy’ Because
legislation, a legislation which is some people have concentration of
absurd m its own context, then aou ve^lth Take it awav. Bring in so
must have dishonesty and you, the cialism but then do not *?o to fthese
must have dishonesty and you must e-amc* businessmen <md a*»k for money
Finance Minister, w ill be responsible to fight the elections You w ill M v c
for making India hundred per cent to make your politics clean first end
dishonest I f you want to bring in foremost
tax laws, bring in laws which are
within the paying capacity of a
human being. If a man has got too Sir, I had introduced a Bill in 'Par
much money, take it away but do not liament regarding salaries and allow
make laws and threaten a man day ances o f Members o f Parliament. You
in any day out with dire consenuen- want to bring in an egalitarian so
ces o f being sent to imprisonment. I f ciety. A ll right. I felt that Members
you want to make India one big pri o f Parliament drawing Us. 51 a day
son camo. I am sorry that is not a tax-free as allowances was w rong be
country w hich many o f us w ould like cause in 'the new w ay o f thinking in
to see In our country w ith ell these our country all o f us w ill have to
233 F
inanc
eBi
ll
, 1973 VAISAKHA 12
, 1895(SAKA
) F
inanc
eBi
l, 9732
l 34
make a con tr
ibutiontowa rdsthe na Now ,S ir
,a wo rdabou ttheexpend i

t
ional excheque r
. Some Membe rso f tu re onthe M inis te
rs* hou ses andthe
Par
liamen t whose in cpme may be expend i tureincur red onthe i rretinue ,
very sma l
l may have to pay a tax like f ree e lectricity and wha t no t
.
of Re. 10 per mon th but some ofu s Su rely thet ime ha s come when the
who are atthe max imums lab wil
l be hon .M in istershou ldbethef irs
tto a c
paying 97pe rcenttowa rdstaxes
. So , cep t tha t, when they ta lk abou t so
the Membe rso f Parl
iamentshould not cia l
ism and so cial change , M inister s
hes
itate payingthe sametaxe sa sthe shou ld no tspendalakho frupee s on
maninthes tree
t pay s
. Tha t wa
sthe doing upthe iro fficeso r home s. Th is
reason for thatB il
l and I have no i s comp lete ly ou to f o rder. The
doubt Parl
iamen tw illinitsown w is Wan choo Comm it tee sugge sted tha t
domsoone ro rlaterb ringinthatk ind the reshou ld be a 70 pe rcen ttax , bu t
ofB il
l. the F inan ce M inister said‘N o* and
madei t97pe rcen t,sotha t many mo re
MR SPEAKER : Ou r Membe rsare dishone st men wou ld bein jectedin to
theleast paidinthe wo rld. the coun t ry. The prov is
ion for im
prisonmen ti sthe re. The who lecoun
DR. KARN ISINGH - They a re not t ry ha sgo ttofacethespe c tre,becau se
theleast paidin the coun try wh i ch no ma tte r wha tyousay ,thet ime may
iia
s the highest taxesinthe wo rld. come when some Ind ian who ha s
comm it ted a t rivialo ffence and done
Somebodyto ld me o r
.ly this mo rn some th ing unde rsomelaw w illbe pu t
ing that India
’s social
ism i s‘Imapa la inja i
l. I wonde ri fthis wa sthepo lice
Soc
ial
ism*. State wh ich Gandh ijid readedforth i s
coun try , whe re a c i
tizen wou ld on ly
act de cen tlyi f.
TrT i
frr*
): s r
r r
s
rrt
fV f
ti MR
. SPEAKER: Now , the hon
.
Membershou
ldtryto conc
lude
.
'S
fT° w DR. KARN I SINGH : Th isis the
g
.ir
r only occas
ion when I have spoken
during th
is whole sess
ion So , may
f\
I haveyour permiss
ionto haveal
ittle
moretime ?
If you come on to the f ront ga te MR. SPEAKER : H i

spar tyha sbeen
at Pa rHamen t House you see wha t ge tt
ing the fu llt ime. Iti s no t my
migh tlookl ike a Lok Sabha o fInd ia fau lti f he ha s not spoken .
bu t when you come to the M in is
ters’
â tei tis known a s‘ Impala So c
ia l
ism ' DR. KARN I SINGH : Du ring th i
s
be cause every M inisterr ide s in the se ss
ion , thi
si s my on ly spee ch. So ,
sleekes t Ame r
icanca rs. I have no th mayI be pe rm it
tedto sayjus t afew
ing aga instit. Isaytha tifyou wan t mo re wo rds?
to buy ca rs
, doi t by a l
l mean s, bu t
MR SPEAKER : I ti s based on
if you wan tto te ll everybodyin the
alloca tion oft ime to the d ifferent
st reet, “Look, you a reliving o stenta
pa rt
ie s
.
tious ly; wha t you a re doingi s wrong :
the coun tryis poor ” ,then,for God ’s DR. KARN I S INGH : Uhe hon .
sake try and do some th
ing you rself. Min istero fP lanning ha sco ined a new
P rac t
ise wha t you p reach. I am su re ph rase , and beca llsit“5 perc ent
* *of
the re a re very good ind igenou s ca r? Ind ia*spopu lat
ion. Inre la tiontotha t,
wh i
ch the M inis
te r
? can u s
e, more so I have a lso coined a new ph rase,
when fhe ca rsa re pak ! by the tax rame ly the 0 .0001 per cen t to the
paye rs
. M inisters. Ith inkthet ime ha scome
235 M ttonct B ill, 1973 MAY 2, 1973 Finonet B ill 1993 236.
fth*. Kami Singh] m this country, I think that that in

when the 5 per cent w ill be exterm i fair, because this is a sovereign legis
nated, and then the turn w ill come o f lature, and & the Members c l Parlia
the QOOOl per cent, and I think the ment, at least 50 o f them, in their
P.0001 pei cent must learn to live and joint wisdom can ask for organising
practise exactly what they preach a raid on a Minister, then the Minister
•mmX w ill know that the power to raid is
X shall just say a few words about not a thing to be used lightly and
black money If you want to stop that a decent man's nose cannot be
black money, as it must be stopped rubbed on the ground, more so it it
in this country, the first step is to turns out not to be his fault, if it is
make your taxation reasonable and his fault, then surely you can catch
•within the paving capacity o f the him
man, and then you have got to make
politics clean i can tell you that if In regard to urban property celling,
politics is made clean, then the time I would say that this is the biggest
w ill come when black money w ill dis hoax and vote-collecting slogan that I
appear m this country. I can tell you have ever heard But if it is the de
today that in the 1976 elections to sire oi Government that urban pro
the Lok Sabha, it w ill cost the ruling perly ceiling should be brought m.
party not less than Rs 100 crores to then by all means, let him bring it
fight the elections Will the hon. Minis I am not opposed to urban ceiling, if
ter o f Finance kindly tell the House it applies to buildings that are used
that every_ single penny which will for income and rent collection. But
be utihsed*~will be White money, and I am opposed to it where homes are
w ill he also tell the House that if any concerned There is no dearth of
Minister or any partyman is found space, because skyscrapers are going
taking bla-»k money from anybody, he upwards If you go to Singapore, a
w ill receive double punishment, be tiny little country, you will find hat
cause a Minister should do nothing they have solved the problem of hous
wrong and, if he does, he should re ing for their labour because they have
ceive double punishment? Then and raised multi-doored buillings, and even
then alone can you expect that from the poorest man today pays about Rs
the man m the street right up to the 5 to have a home, and has a home
Minister all w ill be d ea n and there right up m the skies above We can
w ill be no black money used. do the same thing here. But if you
are going to take away from people
There* is one more point about their buildings which are homes, then
raids Today, the power to raid is one that would create problems. When you
o f the most misused powers, a power take away people’s homes the ques
that is used sometimes even for poli tion is going to come about the valua
tical reasons If the hon Minister tion I have been saying that the
feels that a man is hiding money then
let him raid him by all means, and ever (hanging valuation of the proper
let him go antad Bui what I a'r ty wit) he something like this Today
trvmg to &ay is that the time ha*, 'om c the propeity ma> be worth Rs 9
when tht> raiding power of the Gov lakhs But tomoriow, it is €om g to be
ernmonts hnve become so mu<h air! Rs 6 lakhs and the day after, Jt is
dictatorial that there should be an going to be Rs 7 lakhs because the
antidote to this which would make value of the rupee is berng eroded
the Ministers feel where the shoe pin What are you going to do m the case*
ches The suggestion that I wish to Are you going to tell the man 'Pull
make to the House is this that 50 your kitchen down today and make it
Members of Parliament from anv part Rs. 5 lakhs’ After tw o years, pull
of the House may petition the Speaker down your garage, and in the third
to organise a raid on any Minister year, your children are married, so*,
237 ?*»<»*“» Bill, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 189^ (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1973 238
pull down flie first floor and thus still square yards or worth over Rs 2 lakhs.
keep it within Rs. 5 lakhs? How The sooner the shoe pinches, the more
absurd this is going to be: This arbi careful will be in bringing forward
trary power fo r valuation of property legislation where the man in the street
is going to be something that will is affected but Ministers, MPs and G o-
be misuse^ to the ninth degree. In ernment officers escape. Otherwise, it
view of this, I have one suggestion to is an absolute fraud.
make. That suggestion is that Minis
ters, MPs and government officers One more point. This is about re
shall not live in any government pro trospective effect o f urban property
perty or their own property which ex legislation. I wiil tell you what hap
ceeds the value o f Rs. 5 lakhs valued pened m Rajasthan. Retrospective le-
at the same rate o f valuation as the gilation has been brought in Rajastnan
property o f the citizen in the street is on urban property ceiling. Tht result
going to be valued. Today I can tell is that trusts have been created cr
you that the average house of a Mi buildings have been sold and the own
nister is not worth less than Rs. 30-40 er is completely at sea. I would ask:
lakhs at the rate o f valuation going are the people of India your enemies
to be done, for properties for purposes that you should treat them this wav'*
o f wealth tax and urban property ceil If you want to confiscate property
ing. Now, you can turn round and take it away. 1 do n^t say ‘no’ to that.
say, ‘the building does not belong But why do you want to leave a
to the Minister or to the M.P.’ That is man bed up with knots <5f legal prob
not the point. Socialism is a con lems for the rest of his life/ Is not
cept. If you believe in a concept, then a human being’s time worth more*
n o individual shall occupy land, build Should not he contribute to the build
ing or property in excess of so many ing up o f the country? Should not
square yards or whose value is so there be a sense o f participation from
much. I am quite confident that the the 57 crores of Indian ;>eo^le in
Prime Minister, Shri Chavan and nation-builoing? You cannot build the
many Ministers like them who are country all by yourselves. Y<*u need
socialists, who truly believe in it, w ill the help of every single Indian to build
pick up their suit cases the day you up the country. Why Ue ticm up in
bring in an urban property ceiling knots y-ith absurd legislation and that
and w ill walk out o f their houses and too retrospective for two years and
tell the nation: ‘Here are the hou so on.
ses w e occupied which are worth Rs.
90 lakhs or more and w e shall not live I ask: Is this not a fraud? Your
here because w e do not believe in own Registrar sitting in a government
double yardsticks in the country:’ As office registers the sale o f property or
the Finance Minister, the MPs and registers trusts, takes the same duty
everybody henceforth shall live in and accepts everything in all good
houses worth not more than Rs. 5 failh Then you bring in legislation
lakhs. retrospective for two. five and ten
v°ars as a result of which everything
m m srrr n r * f : that was done in good faith is washed
away. I say it is a fraud. You wil*
i
again forte the people affected to go
to court. 1 know what the decision
DR. KARNI SINGH; I would like this time will be in the courts. W e do
to teH Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee that not have to guess. I would very res
he should also live up to the manifesto pectfully tell this hon. House that this
o f his party and that he shall not is a wrong idea, to bring in legislation
occupy property, whether it is his or retrospectively— legislation must al
Ckw«^ment*s, which is over 2*000 ways be prospective.
*39 Ptnimee BUI, 1978 MAY 2, 1S7S t a a a JHH. t t » 340
[Or K a m i Singh}
* fan? t o g*r g i * *ro*r?nr
In Rajasthan, there is an extraordi $ fa sfr n w w w N r vrfenc %
nary situation. Mr Speaker, sir, you w farer $r $ <r| t r ^ n o s 1%
as an agricultural citizen understand
it This lacuna applies to any person ^ to tt | f*r fm %
who is resident m a largish town % fw svsrr
Take, for instance, Ganganagar With*
vtfsrar tit t ^
m 8 kms for the purpose o f agricul
tural land, all farms become urban tit »rf $ f ^ r tit
land In genuine agricultural cities xvs m i «rra * 5 1 f r f*
like Ganganagar, those lands need
for farming fpr >ears now are includ
ed m urban property, the land price r*rr^ w orn * ? ^
jt> high, and Rs 3 lakhs is going to be ftn? ^ | * 3 srra nt
taken tor ceiling including farms and
houses Absurd as it is, but that some *fst s*r |
land is coming also und ’r the agricul 3% fr f® w&Q m ?
tural ceiling How can you possibly
m z t T t Trr^r trr w x *rw c
bring the same land under two ceil-
ng% agricultural and urban7 it m | tftt w rm r f t t o t t -
torn tv * It o t ?rt %
Added to this there is a new Ra
•jasthan land law about rural ceiling 3%»t ^ ^ *rr * ^ i «nrr
v hereby discrimination is practised ^Trrsr^rr? spt ?TW^
between an adult son and an adult
f*F*r?ft *r ift n * *fr w W
daughter Suppose the adult daughter
does not want to marry Why should «r<rr?* |rr ^jn% n f r w f t ^ Tgft
she not br* able to do her own farm ft, ^rTft sp* t
m sf Ycu have a Prime Minister
s* sftat f t aFTrft t ^ m
She is a r d } We expe t equal r ghts
fir our women Why should there be w ^ *F*T
discrimination m farming also between
*«
adult sons and adult daughters?
We have to recken with the basic
You want to build a great country problems that face us as a result o f
Build it on sane laws I f there is too problems that face us as a result of
much wealth concentration take it rial concepts It is inevitable in India
away But do not make India a and e&pe tally where the population
g^stapo State a State or a country like growth rate is the highest or the
vihat Hitler or Stalin built W e want second highest in the world, it is ab
India to be a free country as a Gan- solutely imperative that w e recognise
chiji and Nehruji wanted Please do the fact that prices w ill increase, and
not keep on threatening the people scarcity will be a basic factor to rec
everyday with dire consequences of ken with Even if socialism comes at
imprisonment to stay straight Let
a more rapid pace which I want it to
us have India free country where free come, or, if there is an element o f
n on (An breathe like free people If gradualism in your concept of build
wealth is the only reason, I say take it ing socialism or even if w e oppose
aw a j, but do not take away the indi socialism altogether as Mr Piloo Mody
vidual freedom o f the human being very much likes to, even then, in his
reign and m his Prim© Ministership,
vft f o f t o (s ^ f n m n r ) : the population will go on rising and
he w ill be just w iped out o f the sur
“sft face of politics because he is not cap
^ far f *3*PfT able o f understanding
341 Finance Bill, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 373 242
He Will not understand the problem, w ill never be able to come out. He
the basic problem which laces us. He claims to be a socialist yet he goes
4* on e o f those people who does not on conducting talks with people like
understand the basic problem that Charan Singh, C. B. Gupta and others.
laces us and, therefore, I need not go 1 am not warried about that. But,
in to it. But the fact is that w e have indeed, I am worried about certain as.
done things which g o to our credit; pects o f which I shall speak, which I
the Government really deserves credit. should like the Treasury Benches to
.Especially in the last few years, as make a note o f these. These are by
was indicated by m y friend the other way of constructive suggestiness; I
day, during this abnormal situation hope it w ill not be misunderstood.
that w e were laced with, after
drought, altar the war, and after many The installed capacities in the coun
other serious problems, the Govern try are not being utilised. There is
ment did the best that was possible no reason why we cannot go faster
for them to do. But for the fact that towards achieving complete produc
in this pattern o f socialism an par tion, or at least very near the installed
liamentary democracy w e have to capacity.
reckon with weaknesses like Piloo
M ody or others, w e could have gone Take for instance, cement, I feel
faster; we have to go slow— sore about the lack of awareness on
the part o f those who are responsible
for increasing the production o f ce
SHRI PILOO MODY (G odhra):
Eliminate us. ment. We build most o f our roads
with bitumen. There can be a margi
nal reduction of bituman production
13 hrs.
in our refineries and part of that bitu
men can be diverted to production o f
SHRI K. D. M ALAV IYA : You will fuel oil m the country which is so
be eliminated; I have not the least very badly needed in the country.
doubt about it. I stand here, and I Instead w e can increase the produc
want to submit—of course not physi tion o f cement. Let there be cement-
cally eliminated because you do not concrete roads throughout the coun
count and he does not count lor any try; they will be durable. M ore em
thing that his system w ill be elimi ployment opportunities w ill be crea
nated; it has gone out o f recognition. ted. I say this because cement is a
Nobody recognises it; he is a non product which can be produced cent
entity so far as politics is concerned per cent indiganously. The Plants are
But I do not want to discuss him. The manufactured in India; the limestone
system in which w e are working, the is here. We must have therefore
parliamentary system o f democracy more plants for the manufacture o f
w here w e have to reckon with the cement.
feudalistic thinking habits o f people
and its shortcomings and gradualness Now let me refer to certain aspects
make our progress inevitably slow o f petroleum products. The new
Even though the Prime Minister Minister has come with a ban£. I
wishes to g o faster, she cannot. Even congratulate him for showing more
though this party wants to purify the dynamism. Perhaps he w ill be able
system o f elections it cannot. We to show much better results than what
w ill not be able to do that, inspite of had been shown previously.
Mr. Madhu Limaye talks o f political
non-sense; let him pick and choose Unless the Government make up
leaders to make things temporarily in their mind quickly and formulate an
convenient for us, by going to Luck energy Dolicy. thcv will not be able to
now and holding conferences. He is solve the pioblem o f scarcity o f
plunging into a see from which he petroleum products. Unfortunately the
*43 finance Bill, 1973 MAY 3, 1973 Finance Bttl.
{® t ti JC P. M alavaya]
production of coal is being W* should soon produce i t j f w * do
from petroleum products and the in not produce it, we shall have to import
creasing demand tor importing crude it.
Oil.
The point I am trying to make out
13.91 lira. 1$ this that w e should go ahead, pro-
[Shrimati Sheila Kaul in the chair] ducing m ore and m ote o f coa t Hero
I shall just read out what has been
I shall ju&t read out to you from done by an advanced country like
the latest Petroleum Intelligence America which cares a lot about pollu
Weekly wherein, by an executive order tion, which is becoming global one o f
al the White House, the President, problems. President Nixon has said
Mr Richard Nixon, has appointed a in his Energy Report to the House the
Sub-Committee on Energy, thereby following —
drawing the aftenion of the people of
America to the great urgency of form “ If we insisted upon meeting both
ing an Energy Commission which will primary and secondary clean air
specifically to go into the urgent pro standards this would force an in
blem of formulating a policy for energy crease m demand for oil o f 1.6 mil
whereby coal wUl have to be produced lion barrels per day
much more. We shall have to take
note of the scarcity of fuel oil After He further says*
all, fuel oil, gas etc come from the ‘This oil would have to im
crude oil. If we go on consuming crude ported. with an adverse effect on our
oil like that and go on switching on balance of payments of some $ 1 fr
fo r instance, to diesel engines as was billion or more a year Such a
done previously—consumption of cUesel
development would also threaten the
oil by die«el engines and switching on loss of an estimated 26.000 coal
to fuel oil to make it as feed-stock for mining jo b s ”
our future fertiliser plants—then, no
doubt, m another 12 or 13 years, w he
Now, here is a case where the most
ther we like it or not, our import of
advanced country is advocating such a
crude oil will increase to about 40*45
big increase of coal production. Their
million ton*1 And by the time we
programme now is to produce 900
import 45 million tons of crude oil, the
million tons of coal per annum, o f
prices will have shot up to 4.5 dollars
about 585 million tons they are using
per barrel. That means we will have
450 million tons of coal to-day to
to spend about 2,000 or 1,S00 crores of
generate power We are producing 70
foreign money on imported crude oil
million tons o f coal for all purposes.
in order to maintain the consumption
Our western thermal power stations
throughout the country for various
run on gas and fuel oil This is non
purposes from (a) to (7) I may tell
sense I warn the Government that it
you that it will be a most disastrous
wo do not come back to coal, then a
thing
day will come when w e will have to
face ah economic situation which we
SHRI PILOO MODY- Why is there wiJl not be able to successfully combat
shortage o f crude? We must now form a national poljry
on energy This question has been
SHRI K D M ALAVIYA Because. receiving the attention o f the*Govern-
I admit we have failed to go ahead ment for long Why are they delaying’
with the programme o f oil exploration
1 have no doubt that this country
possesses much more oil than what it w s tfw l m m t*i ft f a ftw ft
has produced so far. This country, by
m * m m # I,
on-shore and off-sbore drilling, should
have produced by now much more oil
a*5 FUmnce m i, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 {SAKA) Finance Bill, 1973 246
b our bttromcratic system* w e have Palliwal— was made the Chief o f tne
the lower broad base, the then higher Rural Development Office and he did
base and vertically you come up to the much more work within a year com
Minister. They always think that they pared to what the officials did sub
are right in their mood of compla sequently in five to ten years’ time. 1.
cency. We have not been able to therefore, appeal to Government to
come to the right decision because we consider this if we want to reach our
have been making mistakes and de objectives. We can really xgnore manv
laying decision*. Dejay in taking deci. of the other things said by the opposi
sion is very harmful. But I am glad tion. but we cannot ignore this aspect
Government is now thinking at the o f decentralisation to be brought about
highest level of appointing high-power at the base. Many basic concepts
ed committees and commissions to take already arrived at by the C-overonr.ent
decisions expeditiously Even wrong deserve a change. The quicker we
decisions are better than no decisions. decide' upon changing some o f these
You take a u ron g decision, you can baMc decisions, the sooner we will be
change it, but pleaso don t delay taking able to reach our objectives. There
decision > has to be a sense o f urgency, which
I am sure to being realised by Govern
We a*r working today at the field ment But they are bogged dow n in a
level whwh is commendable. No other methodology which has now proved to
Government, I am quite sure, under be completely ineffective and useless-
the circumstances could have done
better But though the basic issues MR CHAIRMAN: Shri Piloo M ody.
involved have been considered bv the Seven minutes have been allotted for
Government, they have not yet taken his party.
any decision* on them. Take the ques
tion o f decentralisation o f our pattern SHRI PILOO MODY (G odhra):
of administration. No com er in the
Madam, you may stretch it a little,„
country has been found as clean as
not much.
Mr. Piloo Mody or myself or the Gov
ernment would like it to be. There ere Madam Chairman, I must admit
evils rampant everywhere With that that I was rather surprised with the
background, if we really want to reach latter half o f Shri Malaviya’s speech,
our objective, w hy not transfer power because it went way beyond his philo
to the people’s representatives, say, at sophy. He all of a sudden became
the district level? What is there in practical and sensible and quite obvi
one District Magistrate who is the sole ously discarded his ideology and al
repository of power at the district lowed his mind to think rationally
level, who can sit upton a decision,
about humanity. For that second half
persuade the minister to withdraw a
I thank him. A great many o f the
decision or cancel a correct decision’
things that he has said are correct.
I think it is high time Government
A decision not taken is the worst
started quickly decentralising this
power. If they think people have been crime that one can commit in this
wrongW elected, let Government form country and, therefore, even w rong
a panel of really good non-ofTimi peo decisions are preferable to no deci-
ple and transfer power 3nd re-tponn- 'ions at all.
bilit ’ to that nano1 About 30 years
He also said that he was very happy
ago T ctiKRCêd to our sreat and aM*'
now that a great deal o f thinking
leader. Shr* Oovind Ballabh P<mt to
was taking place at the highest level,
take courage and start transferrins
nower at the district W e i to non- I could not disagree with him more.
officials picking out people and RiWnq: N o thinking is taking place at the
them training under the District highest level at all, particularly as
Magistrate. At that time, in X7P. a far as the development o f the coun
political teader-HShn Sri Krishna Dutt try is concerned, because all energies,
347 Bi!l, 1873 MAY 3, IOT» rOKWc MU. 1971 X#
XStai K lo o U<x)y] about which I w ill talk later today.
« a thinking, all time la employed only Very important recommendations’
fo r one purpose, and ttoat is politic#, wave made as to h ow justice can be
and that too as to what w ill be its made cheaper* Unfortunately, the
ultimate affect on the elections that Government o f India never read that
are c o n in g up in U.P. I snake bold important part o f the Law Commis
t o say that the Government o f India sion’s report. They only read and
does no* even sneeze without consi understood the little bit which says
dering first what its effect w ill be that seniority need not necessarily be
on the U.P. elections! Therefore, all the reason fo r appointing judge*, and
this big talk about high thinking in that also forgetting the second half
high places should be com pletely which said that merit should be taken
washed off and w e must tell the peo into consideration. That is the only
ple this is what they are doing. part of the Law. Commission's Report
that ever registered or became ope
Yesterday w e heard the Prime rative. I do not know w hy w e spent
Minister hysterically crying in U.P. so much money on that Law Com
about how she wanted to help the mission, because it very clearly states
poor and h ow the vested interests, if h ow justice can be made cheaper for
I may qu ote___ the poor people, about whom the
Prim e Minister from morning to night
SHRI S. R, DAM ANI (Sholapur): cries but does not know what +o do
Sir, the hon. M ember while referring about it. None o f it has been imple
mented. It was suggested that the
to the Prim e Minister used the w ord
extortionate fees that are charged as
“ hysterically” I think it is not par
court fees and stamp duties mav very
liamentary.
w ell be brought within the means o f
the people so that they an afford it,
SHRI PILOO MODY: I say that the but all that has also been conveni
Prim e Minister, hysterically shrieking ently forgotten.
from Kanpur, said how the vested
interests, w hich incidentally includes Now w e talk about the eradication
me, w ere preventing the social and o f poverty. It seems to be the cen
econom ic transformation. Madam, I tral theme. A ll o f us are ton;*emed
really marvel at this sort of hysterical about it. But mere concern is not
pronouncements. Here w e are seven enough. It is necessary to know how
of us, at the moment only tw o; three does one proceed in eradicating
they are 350 added b y God knows poverty. If you w ere listening to
how many on the Communist benches Shri Malaviya, it is quite evident that
Here are seven, or the tw o out of he does not know it; if you were
seven, that are preventing his great listening to Shri Chavan, it is quite
revoluion from taking place. I some evident that h e does not know it. If
times w onder about the credibility y ou w ere to listen to what Siinmati
that this sort o f thing and how it can Indira Gandhi was saying, hysterical
pass muster among the peoples o f this ly shrieking; it is obvious that she
country. does not know it. So, there must be
som ebody in this country w ho knows.
There is another thing. The Prime When I say I know , they all stfert
Minister has asked prominent legal jeering.
experts and lawyers to think how the
poor can get justice. Madam, the Madam, what I want to sav is that
Law Commission’s Report fifteen years there are methods, very simple
ago made certain recommendations, methods, of eradicating poverty.
very important recommendations P overty can b e eradicated by inerea-
2 4 9 Finance Bill, 1973 VAISAKHA 13, 1899 (.SAKA) Finance Bill, 1373 250
tin g the productivity o f m a n There SHRI PILOO MODY: So is th e

Is no other w ay by w hich poverty stupidity of the Government which is;
can be eradicated. It may be a increasing. Do some w ork instead
socialist country, « capitalist country of doing every thing towards the
or a country on the moon, poverty U P . election. Government is a seri
cannot be eradicated except b y im ous business.
proving man's productivity by giving
him improved tools and the neces
80 per cent of our people live m
sary minimum knowledge to use the
the countryside. There was a tim e
improved tool. You read the Five
Year Plans, you read the outlines o f when the village was ecou om cally a
the Plans, you read the Economic viable unit. Today it cannot sustain
itself. You have to find an economi
Survey, you read the budget speeches,
cally viable unit in the countryside.
you examine the Budget, in none o f
A ll the money should be diverted
these you find any indication that
towards making the rural econom y
the Government has even begin to
think in the direction ol eiadicaiing viable. But nothing is be.ng done,
poverty. What is the point in mis and you talk about the eradication o f
poverty.
leading the w hole nation when they
do not implement the necessary struc
tural and institutional methods by The Finance Bill comes every year.
which poverty can be eradicated? It is an exercise in total futility. The
Minister makes a few apnmnri&ticns,
Take the case o f minimum applica
tion o f technology. A man digs gives a little to him, m little to th e
100 cu, ft. in the course o f the day other and at the end he comes and
gives a sugar coating by accepting
end he gels Rs 4 / - per day. There
Rs. 2 crores taxation relief and the
is no way except to teach him to dig
tw o brass so that with the same whole exercise goes on. I appeal t o '
amount o f effort he can earn Rs. 8/~ Shri Chavan, kindly show some con
per day with a simple tool with the cern for the ultimate prosperity o f
application o f technology and by giv the country, and next time when you
ing him the necessary education to come before the House, and I hope
use it. you are still there, come up with
proposals which will not only increase
SHRI K D M ALAVIYA: Do you votir resource position but w ill also
honestly think that it is not being divert these resources into the avenues
done? which w ill help the people of this-
country and not m erely the statistics
SHRI PILOO MODY. < honestly and the future of those w ho are in
behevt* that p o 'e rty hu*> increased, pr>'»V^r>
1unemployment has increased, the
prices have increased. There is no SHRI DINESH SINGH (Pratap-
cement, no food, no steel, no oil, no g arh ): Madam, chairman, while rising
coal, ther is nothing. Nothing is to support the Finance Bill I should
working. He himself complained that like to point out certain aspects o f
the industry of the countrv is not the policy which I consider are baste.
functioning. Public Sector makes no I am conscious o f the difRcuJty I am
profit, and he snv» that ih* Govern facing, since I am follow ing my friend
ment has dealt " ilh these thmss in Sh i Piloo M ody, and I have to make
the best possible fashion I am not a herculean effort to restore this
prepared to listen to these excuses. House back to some resiousness.
SHRI K. D. M ALAV IYA : Popula I must say, I am somewhat dis

tion and education are increasing and mayed at the lack o f a coherent t a n -
thereby unemployment Is increasing. tion policy in the Finance Bill pr«K
35X Firnnoe MUt 1973 MAY 2, M% Ftrmnce AM. W% *$t
from the state-owned enterprises. >

(Shri Dmesb Singh]
In capitalist countries, the main
sentcd by the Finance Marmter which, souroe *<*f income o f the tfate budget
In fact, reflects a certain amount of is taxation, and in the socialist
vagueness o f our economic policy et> countries—pToflt from the national
a whole The Finance Minister had economy ”
said at the end of his Budget Speech He goes on to give an example that
m the Soviet Union, the contribu
“The Budget of the Central G ov
tion o f taxes before the October Re
ernment is not merely an exercise
volution that is under Cwaiist Russia,
in balancing revenue and expendi
was 62 per cent and this m 1965
ture Its primary role today is to
came down to less than 7 per cent
be a m ajor instrument for the real
and 916 per cent o f the revenues
isation o f our basic social and eco
were derive 1 f*om the profits of State
nomic ob jectiv es”
enterprises.
'Our declared and basic social and Now, this is a clear direction which
-economic objective is to usfcei in a w e have to give to our economy if
socialist society through peaceful w e mean to bring m socialism in an\
means I had expected that in this
serious manne~ What is it that we
voluminous document which has been
have done m this country* I am
given to us there would be a clear
giving this merel as an example not
indication o f how this transformation
o f any failure as such but a& an
w ill taka place When 1 had a look example o f a need to transform this
at it again I felt that there was
system It is not teru bly relevant,
something wh ch was serioush miss what has happened m the past ex
mg
cept to learn from it and see what
can be done today to make the neces
What is it that we are trying to sary changes
do? When w e say that we a it ôing
to usher in socialism through peace In 1947-48, the year of our Inde
fu l means, one o f the most important pendence, our realisation from taxes
implement is the application of an was Rs 206 8 crores In the pioposed
econom ic policy, which w ill bring Budget which the hon Finance Minis
about this transformation. What is a ter has presented to the House, this
socialist taxation policy’ I can do no goes up to Rs 5113 crores In 25
^better than quote from a dsitingutsh- years, this has been increased by 25
•ed Soviet economist, Mr N Yersnolo- times I can appreciate that we are
•vich He says* n ot yet a socialist State W e are
running a mixed econom y In ft m ix
‘ T h e budget o f a socialist state ed economy, it is necessary that w g
differs radically from that o f a have a measure o f taxation at least
capitalist one. The basic differences ok the private sector. Even so, what
in these budgets proceed from the is it that w e Have done to shift am*
diametrically opposite social systems phasis? What have we done to raise
in these states, and from the abso resources from state-owned enter
lutely different functions o f a socia prises? What have w e done to put
list and capitalist state For in a a bigger burden on the private sec
socialist state, the land with its tor? As you w ould have seen, there
mineral wealth, the plants, factories has been no increase m wrporata
and the banks, belong to the entire taxation this vear There has been
people in the person o t the state no burden on the private sector in
That is why m ajor expenditure o f an effort to derive more revenue from
th e state are ensured by the profits a sector which wHI enventuaUy dim !-
•»J3 Finance BiU, i m VAISAKHA 12, 188$ (SAKA) Finance Bit!, 1873 254
nish as w e move more towards we find that they have run into a
-socialism. On the other hand, the cumulative loss of Rs. 15.16 crores.
entire emphasis is still on taxation Instead of earning a profit o f Rs. 350
from the people a« such. Therefore, crorsS, w e have made a loss of
iher has to be an essential shilt from Rs 15.16 crores. The country as a
this, a change in the taxation system, whole, in this process, has lost
-so that items o f mass consumption are Rs, 305 crores last year. The point
available to the people free of all js this. Who is answerable for it?
taxes and the tax burden is borne by
the luxury items or items beyond SHRI PILOO MODY: Government.
what ate called items of ma.<s con
sumption. Only then w e can attempt SHRI DINESH SINGH: The difii-
to have any saving. We talk of sav culty is this. On the one hand we
ing But when we find that the rate say that bureaucracy in this country
o f taxation is going up, when we find has failed us; it cannot function, it
that the money supply is sorng up, does not function And, on the other
when w e find that shortages are in- hand, we hand over all these enter
reasing, where can there be saving? prises to the same bureaucracy to be
Savings automatically get washed out. run. Then how can w e expect any
No economy can be built on a basis thing better there? W e have brought
o f saving when the whole system of m no professional management. Des
saving is corroded by the fall in the pite what my friend, Keshav Bhaj,
buying power of the currency that has said, 1 am doubtful of level
continues. Therefore, we have to of technology. That apart, there has
divert our attention to a system which to be the element of accountability.
w ould be meaningful considering the I w ould like to know whether the
-direction in which w e would wish to Government have a system by which
move. they are able to know each year what
the profit or loss is and w hy it has
been so, whether any accountability
Talking o f the public sector, it is exists or whether anybody has asked
a sector which belongs to all o f us; any question and whether the G ov
it belongs to the country as a whole. ernment can be made accountable to
Therefore, whether it is Mr. Piloo this Parliament for these public sec
M ody on that side or any of us on tor enterprises. Leaving aside the po
this side, it is our common concern litical aspect and the question w he
to see that they function w ell and ther the Government have failed or
•they occupy an important position in not in the past, every year the House
'our national econom y I am not talk as a whole can examine these public
ing o f the enterprises which have not sector enterprises without any ques
becom e operational. I am not even tion o f political element in it.
taking o f promotional or departmental
'enterprises, W e have, or w ould have Now. apart from these public sec
very shortly, invested Rs. 2,300 crores tor enterprises, w e are suffering under
In public sector enterprises which what we call the econom y o f short
w ou ld have passed beyond the gesta ages, artificially created. t When w e
tion period. N ow it is normal for us grow a little more sugar cane or
t o expect that, oven according to the whenever there i$ a little m ore cotton,
standards that w e allow to the private w e hear a hue and cry in this coun
sector, they should earn a minimum try. Everybody rushes and says. *We
•O f 1$ per cent, they should give us have over- production. W e have never
per annum a profit o f Rs. 350 crores. faced over-production in this coun
H u t on the other hand, when w e see try’ Because the econom y is in tb *
tit* F!a«QCt Ministry's report on this, hands o f a few big business t o m
255 JNwmce Bill, 1973 M AY % 1973 Finance Bill. 1973 256
[Shri Dinesh Singh] on economic matters. He must have

whose interests lie in creating short facts. I w ould beg o f him even to*
ages so that they can get better day to have a look at this list m id
profits; so, whenever the prim ary tell us how much o f it has gone into
producer is able to produce something backward areas I doubt whether there
more, they are worried that the prices is anything worthwhile that has gone
will fall and immediately all kinds 01 into backward areas.
artificial mechanism are brought into
operation to see that the farmer and There is n o point in laying down.
the primary producer do not get their Government policies and then at the
share. H ow can w e increase the raw end to say that they do not materia
materials production in this country lise, thereby creating a kind c| credi
unless w e assure the farmers not only bility gap in the country. 1 w ould
a remunerative and equitable price rather expect the Government to aay
but also stable profits over a period that big business is there, it has to.
o f time? In a controlled economy as be utilised, it has to be channelised
w e have it, there is no difficulty in into certain lines— and let us see to
assuring the farmer and the primary it that it functions within those limits
— instead o f saying that w e have
producer that he w ill get a fixed pro
stopped big business when w e see that
fit irrespective o f the vagaries of
disparity, even through control o v e r
mature. Otherwise there is no mean
the economy, is increasing. There
ing o f a controlled economy. It is
fore, I would urge on the Finance
then better to leave it to the market
Minister to kindly let us know h ow
forces having their full play and
he proposes to tackle tw o rather three
enable the primary producers to get
things— our movement towards socia
as much profit* as they can. But w c
lism, the taxation policy, the econo
have not even thought o f crop in mic policy—control over big business,
surance because there is the hold of — and the moving of our economy
the big business on our economy. from one of shortages to an economy
We talk o f loosing of their hold. There o f surpluses
have been commissions after commis
sions going into it and then we find Now, 1 do not have to remind a*
that their net assets have increased, to how seriously shortages are in
licenses to them have increased. Can creasing. I have got figures here,,
w e not request the Finance Minister but the Chair’s finger is on the bell*
to tell the House what is the G ov so I would not wish to tax its indul
ernment's policv towards big busi gence I would say we have to con
ness? It is not enough to say that cede that the p**r capita availability
they w ill only go for core industries o f articles o f mass consumption is
or into the backward areas. The goins down. It has gone dow n con
other day the Finance Minister was siderably in the last tw o years. O n
very kind and gave a reply show the other hand, money supply has in
how LIC has benefited the big busi creased at the rate o f 12 to 13 p er
ness. Then I raised a question as to cent. Obviously, it w ill lead to high
how many o f the projects have gone prices How can vou control that un
into backward areas. He said.......... less you make available at least
goods o f mass consumption? I f w e
think in terms o f helping the w eaker
THE MINISTER OF FINANCE sections o f the society this is possible
{SHRI YESHW ANTRAO C H A V A N ): only if the State takes over both the
1 presume, 1 said. production and distribution o f all
item* o f mass consumption and an*
SHRI DINESH SINGH: The Fin* sutes that they are available to the
ance Minister of India cannot presume people at stable prices and that the
3J7 Unmet mu
, 1873 VA1SAKHA 12
, 1995(SAKA
) F
inanceB
il,1
l 9
73 2Jg
fa
rmers and the p
rimary produ
cers These bus
inessmen exp loi
t the work
ge
t the
ir sha
refrom it ers
.In the Qu ilon Dis
trict
, f rom
whereIcome , dueto non-ava i
labili
ty
•SHJUMAT I BHABGAV I THAN - of raw cashew nu ts many fa c
tories
KAPPAN (Adoor ): M
r. Chairman , have been closed w i
th the re sult
Sir
, tak ing pa rtinthe deba te on the many wo rkers a re unemp loyed and
Finan ce Bill I wou ldl iketo men tion they are l
iving w i
thoutfood .
tna i we mu st consider how mu chthe
'Common peop le o t our coun t
ry have Iti s the finan cial po li
cy fo l
lowed
bene fi
ted a fter a ttaining independ by the Gove rnmen t tha ti s responsi
en ce
. Wha t we seetodayi s risein bleio it ins. Sma ll-scale indu st
ries
prieso fe s sentia
la rt
icles, unemp loy
should be g ivenloan s and g rants by
men t
, sho rtage o f wa ter and powe r the Gove rnmen t. New fa ctor
ies
cu ta s are sul
to f which the common should be s tartedin a lmo sta ll back
peop le are no t ab le to have two ward a reas sotha tthe peop lecan be
squa re mea ls a day . The Gove rn
emp loyed. The Gove rnmen t shou ld
men t should cons ider why th issitua set up af inancia
lin stitut
ionfor th is
tion i s the re in the coun try. They purpose. Then on ly ou rcommon men
shou ld takeimmed ia
te a ct
ion to im and P «or people will be ab leto de rive
prove the cond it
ion o f the common some b ene
fit
.
maninthecoun try.
Every year ou r peop le a re faced
S
ir, oursi s an ag r
icultural coun t
ry . withthe p roblem o f sho r
tage o ffood .
Our farme rs a re ready to do the ir Thisi s no t a thing wh ich s tarted
best to improve p roduction. Bu t yesterday o r today. Ou r ag r
icultu re
what has the Gove rnmen t done to wa sa lways depend ing on mon soon s.
pro
tect the inte restso f the fa rmers ? Whythe Gove rnment ha s notp rovid
Our people are su ffering a lot and ed p roperi rrigat
ion fa ci
lities til
l to
they are not ab le to make bo th end s day ? Whe re the re a re no hydro
meet
. The fa rme rs a re no t
’ ab le to electric p rojects the Gove rnmen t
getloan s on ea sy te rms, i ti s really shou ld se
t upthe rmo -electricp rojects.
a regrettable ma tter. The Govern Iti s becausethe Gove rnmen t ha s no t
mentshou ldtakeimmed iate actionto
paid enough a ttent
ion in th isd i
re c
see that our fa rme rs ge t loan s on tiontha tthe peop le a re stil
l suffering
easyte rms. and many a re unemp loyed .
Wi
thou t properi r
riga t
ion faci
lit
ies
how can the fa rme rs imp rove pro Some pro ject s have been s tarted
duct
ion. The Ra jasthan Cana l
, the by the Gove rnmen t. In the Co chin
Idikki Dam , the Ka llada project and Shipyard the peop le of Kera la have
many o ther projects in ou r country been demand ing asupe r-tanke r-be rth
,
which were unde rtaken by the Gov but no A ttention ha s been pa id by
ernmen t have no t been comp leted so the Gove rnmen t. We have f in i
shed
far. As a re sulto ftha tthefa rmers the Fou r
th P lan and we a re go ingto
are suf
fe r
ing unde rd rough
t andf lood start the F i
fth P lan . The Pre cis
ion
condit
ions. Instrumen ts Fac tory and the News
print Factory wh ich were p rom ised
Sir
, I do no
t wan tto speakon the to bes tar
tedin Kera la arestillinthe
basisof the figure
s supp ied by the da
l rk. Unemp loymen t in Ke rala a s
Government. I can on ly speakf rom wella sinthecoun try as a who le ba®
what I seein my con sti
tuen cy
. The reached it s peak . Peop le of Ke rala
eotrindustry andcashewindus t re are go
ry a ing abou tin d if
feren t pa rtso f
in the hand* o f b ig bu s
ines smen. the coun try in sea rch of jobs. They
•The or
igina
l speech wa
s de
live
redin Ma
laya
lam
1
587 LS-0
.
,2 5 9 WiMwtce MU, 1073 'M &Y$ i & 8 . ' a i 6 « >
[Shrimati Bhargavi Thankappan] should give them more rice. The

are becoming impatient. There is people o f Kerala are living in the
shortage o f power in the country and hope that the Central Government
due to power cuts many factories are w ill take necessary action to give
closed for tw o or three days in a them more rice. M y request is that
week. It is the workers who suffer the Government should not hesitate
and they do not get even one meal a to take the necessary action at an.
day. early date.
Sir, the black market money hoard

There should be a re-thinking o n
ers exploit the agricultural labourers
the economic policy o f the Govern
and they have created an explosive
ment. The arrears of incom e-tax
situation. The prices o f essential com
should be realised immediately and
modities have risen very high and the
stringent measures should be taken,
common people find it difficult to
against incom e-tax evaders. Only
make both ends meet. Only if the
if this is done w e can check the rise
Government comes forward with
in prices and the poor people can
necessary legislation to check the rise
have a comfortable living, When
in prices the poor people can be pro
lakhs o f people are unemployed, when
tected. The Government should take
lakhs of people are not having two
over the wholesale trade and distri
square meals a day, when lakhs of
bute the essential commodities through
people are not having huts to live in,
fair price shops at reasonable prices.
how can we usher in socialism. We
Kerosene, sugar, gas, soap, cotton and
can only remove poverty by imple
other commodities should be made
menting socialist programmes. If
available to the poor people. Excise
there is any delay, I want to warn
duties and other taxes on these com
the Government that the situation
modities should be removed and im
w ill becom e explosive and the G ov
posed on luxury goods so that the
ernment w ill not be able to meet it.
poor people o f our country w ill be
able to get their needs.
trari n fat? > : to *
The Government should create a %nrr*N\ ?nr % sfr m %
situation where the poor people are
able to have at least tw o square meals tor fa n f a s w
a day. If such a situation is not g sr fc f a r r # s r w w % m f\
created what is the meaning o f social W *r «i?tf vrar f a Sfsr Sr
ism. The policy in respect of distri
bution o f essential commodities should % im m f if
be changed. When the Government fc t Srfasr i?f*r ^ n v r tt tffr
takes over the wholesale trade of
strtt |
foodgrains m ore attention should be
paid to the deficit States. States like n ffa r | \ ftrcfc
Kerala, Bihar and Maharashtra which $ nftt ft I i
are deficit States should be given
tuft If
higher quotas o f foodgrains. Hfecent-
ly I found a Press report that the t v p ft t i
supply o f rice to Kerala is going to
be reduced and m ore wheat is going
to be given. Sir, the people o f Kerala ft w&r ^
live on rice. R ice is their staple fr *$r, v ftto ff t
food and if the supply o f rice is re %ftwf
duced they w ill not be able to live.
They want only rice and the Centre
261 Finance Bill, 1973 VAISAKHA. 12, 1899 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1973 262
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[«fVTW ?rr ftr^J SHRI S. B. D AM AKl (Sholapur):

Sir, I rise to support the Finance BUI.
While moving the BiH, the hon.
<rT *flf5T fSflHfr *T CTWTlWfo t o If Finance Minister h it been kind
58 ôWJiot^roWT ** f r « rt fr*r enough to allow a relief of about
Rs. 2 crores in the various tax pro
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posal* he has made. It was expect
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ft* * ( i generous towards the lower middle-
class and middle-class people and
give some more relief. 1 will come
VRt £ ^ p *fo> <"* f f ?T to it a little later.
it T ^ s fc i ^ r ^ ft w y k m
If we compare the circumstances
i i tpi? w m fr 3*rm inw ft i w
under which the Finance Minister had
fr 35 srffrwf t fo *r ?ft to frame the budget in 1972 and thifr
<qj*fr % fcn* w tm t «f qraft year, there is a lot o f difference.
m |, fW 3 f7 ^ | I Last year the food position was very
comfortable We had a buffer stock
39 SrtfrfRT HTW $fr I ***t of 10 million tonnes There was
fr ^Ffr^CW ^ I ^fPPT ®flhWT®T fff stability in prices and the price situa
tion was not so bad. But this year
*t fras* fo ft* t ^ f r qsfpn
due to the failure of the monsoon,
f % prices of all commodities have started
rising He also had to make a huge
provision for giving relief to the
“60 per cent of U P population has drought-affected areas. In Maha
per capita consumption at 71*72 prices rashtra alone, 35 lakh people are pro
below Rs. 37.” vided jobs relief work Our stock
of foodgrains has also gone down
Keeping all this in mind, he had to
fp fw ffr xm fm r fa re frame the budget and whatever tax
proposals he has made are reasonable
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and acceptable
^ 3? i * $ < r 5 T O t o
t. «ro fla t ^ w n c wt w r fr ^ Many members have spoken about

the rise in foodgrain prices This
f i year our Government has taken a
very bold step by taking over the
wholesale trade in wheat and rice
with a long-term view This will
«t tm tw ffif *i? *fV ^
ensure the supply of foodgrains to the
<fro WFT *!#■ 1 ^ o «ffro public at a fixed price and also
fr W T 54 fafr < » 27 ^fr ftrfr assure the farmers that whatever
quantity they are able to produce,
£ Wfr flpflWW fr W fr fatt* ft
they will get stable prices By stabi
q ifcflf o p frtsr tt w fr I — 15 f e # lising the prices of rice and wheat,
4 fr fafrr the prices of other consumer goods
will also get stabilised The frequent
7 -8 ^n&ft fafr I
price rise which we have been seeing
can be halted by this But the
opposition parties «** playing a dou
# m ftr * $ i t : 9 m m m m ble game. TCtoiy W toe t e n * * not
* f o ? i «ft w fr « to 4mtver, wheat to fee G<mrnment
0 69 F im c e B ill, 1073 VAISAKH A 1895 (SA K A ) Finance Bill, 1*73 270
They then com e to the city and tell incentives, there w ill be no saving ot
the public to demand that G overn- investm ent
ment should give foodgrains at con During the last four or five years
cessional prices. X am sure the public industrial production has not shown
aare beginning to understand this dou « n y appreciable rise. The average
b le game and I son confident that our increase is only 3£ per cent as against
food procurement policy w ill b e very the expected increase in industrial
^successful. production of 10 per cent. Even this
increase is due to better utilisation
Com ing to the relief w hich the
o f capacity and not by the setting up
jn id d le and low er middle class w ere
of new industries. W hy is it that no
•expecting, 1 w ould like to say that it
new industries are coming up even
was expected that the hon. Finance
though Government have announced
Minister w ill increase the exemption
some incentives? Because new indus
limit from its. 5,000 to Rs. 7,500 as
tries are not coming up, so the pro
recom mended by Mr. Bhootalingam
blems o f employment and price rise,
« s also by the W anchoo Committee
which are linked with it, are not
Because o f the rise in the cost o f liv
solved. Here I w ould say that
ing, this seems to be a reasonable ex*
when the financial institutions are
pectation. The loss in revenue by
giving loans to entrepreneurs, the*
this decision w ill b e Rs. 10 crores or
are putting so many restrictions. For
120 crores which is about tw o per cent
example, they insist on approving
o f the revenue. This loss w ill be
the appointment of the Managing
partly offset by a reduction in work
Director.
o f the income-tax officers who will
be free from a large number o f small 14.25 hrs.
-assessees. They can then devote their [S hri K N Ttwary *n the Chairj
~time exclusively on people o f th*»
They want their approval
higher incom e bracket and ensure for that Director They w ill appoint
th a t they do not evade tax. a Director on the Board. Any change
in the Board of Directors w ill require
The Finance Minister in his bud
their approval. There are so many
g e t speech said lhat five principles
other conditions imposed. O ver and
guided him in the preparation o f the
above that, they keep a conversion
budget, namely, countering infiatioa
clause, that the loan can be converted
the promotion o f savings and invest
into equity to a certain percentage.
ment, to enlarge em ploym ent oppor
These clauses, these restrictions are
tunities, ensuring minimum basic
coming in the way. These rules have
amenities to citizens and, lastly, the
been introduced for the last five years.
boosting o f exports.
May I know from he hon. Finance Mi
nister, have they examined as to how
The Finance Minister has tried hi.* far these rules com e in the w ay o f
best this year to keep inflation under the expansion o f the industries in the
control. The gap in the budget is country? This aspect should be
only ahout Rs. 90 crores. Perhaps, it examined. Government have got
may be a little m ore because o f the vast powers, in the Comoany Law.
implementation o f the recommenda Many things have been covered. We
tions o f the Pay Commission. should not put stiff rules fo r the
grant o f loans to new entrepreneur
Coming to the second point of sav or to new industry. And then alone
ings and investment, X do not find if would h elo many people to set up
any incentive given in the budget n ew industries, w ill solve the pro
proposals lor saving which can kad blem o f unemployment and increase
to investment Unless “there are soma production.
a?r FSnahe*BHI,1871 ' M
AY
[Shri S. H. Damani] Lastly, I want to s a y . one thing.
W e are ticking up m ore responsibi
W e talk about the industrialisation lity. Our public sector projects which,
in the backward area. In this Bud are running for the last so many
get som e incentive has been given tor years are not showing profits. Every
setting up industries in the backward day, in newspapers, we read that
area. But what is the infrastructure some section of Government staff is
there? Is there communication, is going on strike. Sometimes, w e read
there transport? W e find nothing and th at Engineers are going on strike;
industrialization cannot be achieved. sometimes some other staff is going
I give an example of m y Consti on strike or restoring to go-slow
tuency, Sholapur—a city with 5 lakhs tactices. The things are going on
o f people. From Bombay if I book a like that. Unless discipline is brought
trunk call, it does not materialise the among them, how are you going to
whole day. In such circumstances develop the country? How w ill the
h ow w ill the industries grow there? Government be able to discharge its
These facilities can be provided if responsibility? This is a very im
Government gives m ore attention to portant thing. Unless the Govern
wards such cities, so far as transport ment officers w ork properly and
and quick communication are con undertake the responsibility, our
cerned. Unless both these things are responsibility to develop the country
done, backward areas, small towns, w ill not be fulfilled.
are not going to get benefit o f the
schemes and these people w ill have With these words, I support the
to com e to cities for getting em ploy Finance Bill.
ment. I therefore, strongly stress for
the provision o f infrastructure facili SHRIMATI SHEILA K AU L (Luck
ties in the backward areas to facili n o w ): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am very
tate setting up o f industries over grateful to the hon. Finance Minis
there. This must be taken up ter for having second-thoughts on
seriously. the levy of black and white films. ]
felt strongly on that because the Film
Every day w e read in the news Institute of Poona was bringing out
paper that Excise Deptt. or the persons who were dealing with mak
Customs Deptt. has seized the smug ing o f films. This extra levy would
gled goods. What are those goods? have been a great hardship on them.
Those are transistors, nylon w at I am much obliged to him on this
ches, fountain pens, perfumes. A ll good m ove o f the hon. Finance
these are manufactured in the coun Minister.
try. Then w hy are they being smug
gled in such a large quantity? The Secondly, after 25 years o f our
smuggled goods affect the production Independence, when w e are celebrat
in our country and there is competi ing 25th Anniversary o f our Indepen
tion. Our foreign exchange also in dence, w e still find that Indian money
directly goes away. A ccording to m e which consists o f rupees and paise
the main reason fo r smuggling is the lias some annas around it and these
high rate o f Excise Duty on the Ini anna-bits have heads o f former mon-
tial production. Unless this Customs archs o f England on them. For in
Duty and Excise Duty Is brought stance, I have got these 8-anna and
down, smuggling cannot be stopped. 4-anna bits. I m ay b e allowed to
I would, therefore, reauest that some present them to th e how. fin a n ce
thing should b e done in this connec Minister for M s ready reference
tion to stop smuggling. speedy actkm because these tilings, I
273 Findnce Bill, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1973 374
think personally, should not be allow* ces of foodgrains must come down.
ou any more. Omy when prices o f foodgrains come
down, the prices of other articles of
I do not want to take much time consumption by the common man w ill
of the House because there ate many also come down. If we want to con
Members who want to speak. trol the prices of foodgrains, we must
try ta achieve the very much needed
May I present them to the hon.
water supply to our fields. Hence, as I
Finance Minister? was trying to say. it is but natural that
DR. K AILAS (Bom bay South): the Finance Minister should lay more
Mr. Chairman, Sir, w hile supporting emphasis on medium and small irri
the Finance Bill, I must thank the gation projects. To combat inflation,
Finance Minister lor announcing re we must try to curtail the non- deve
lief of about Rs. 2 crores by adjust- lopment expenditure or the expendi
ment in agricultural incom e-tax, ture which does not bring in any
relief to small manufacturers o f finances back to the country. It is
blended or compounded lubricating alarming that since 1965-66 to
oils and greeses, concession for usage 1972-73, the net tax receipts were
of unconventional raw material, like, Rs. 1,687 crores while in the same
bagasse and pulp, exemption o f elec period the total non-developm ent ex
tric motors for battery operated toys penditure jumps up to Rs. 1,528
and educational kits, reduction of crores. That is, about 91 per cent of
duty from 50 paise to 30 paise per whatever the Finance Minister got by
linear meter to sm all-budget films. way of taxes was spent on n on-deve-
But I wish the Finance Minister lopment things or as administrative
should have given concession to those expenses.
film producers w ho produce films in
regional languages. When w e are I want to draw the attention of the
talking o f giving impetus to our re Finance Minister also to the question
gional languages, it is but natural o f unemployment. To rem ove this
that I must draw the attention o f the unemployment, the country must
Finance Minister that regional lan develop industrially, and when I talk
guage films are very much necessary o f industries, I mean that w e must
today not only for propagation and look as to how w e can develop small
for strengthening regional languages scale industries and the industries
but also for the integration o f the which could b e located in rural
whole country. areas— what w e call agro-based in
dustries. I think, our attention has
It is also good that 115 small-scale not been drawn to that side though
units producing polyethylene w oven the Finance Minister, in his speech,
bags from high-density polythylene has said that he wants to give 20
tape have got relief o f 40 per cent. per cent exemption on profits if the
This year’s budget tries to achieve entrepreneurs locate their industries
five oblects. The first is to counter in the rural areas. According to me,
inflation, the second is to prom ote 20 per cent incentive is almost negli
savings and investment, the third is gible, especially when there Is n o
to enlarge employment potentialities, infra-structure there, and unless and
the fourth is to ensure minimum basic until w e develop the infra-structure,
amenities to all citizens, and the fifth it w ill b e very very difficult to attract
Is to give a filip to exports. entrepreneurs to rural areas. M y
suggestion, therefore, is that the relief
To counteract inflation, the price* should b e given upto 10 p er p e n t
'nust be controlled. T o control the When countries like Tran, Italy,
prices, it is but natural that the pri Greece. New Zealand, Brasil and'
«7s ' x %<
(D r. K *ilw ] l i u U n d M jrou n c c a l l w
Argentina could •olve theii difflcul- "uttfctai6 M « . b n t w « » » i t t r y tft
u « .a d p r o M e m .o i a * b K to n r t * « *•
___- . u u i , , t a n vto u rs o r a d . w hy ® M flR 6T- W fliy C TO W W 6 O O t tw tft & U
^ d w i not do that even after 25 » • Member* of w h e tte
years? Perhaps the measures taken in the L ok S a b h a o r in the Rajya
have been half-hearted. F or in s t a n t Sabha or the country as a whole into
confidence and try to ask w hich arti
the W anchoo Commission had sug
cles could be taxed as also how much
gested that the incom e-tax rate should
should be from direct tax and how
not go beyond 75 per cent again. But
m uch should be from, indirect tax.
this year also the Finance Minister
Perhaps i f w e do that, thure m ay not
h as f N » upto 85 per c e n t There
b e any black market and perhaps
fore, if w e give incentive, let us give
there m ay not be any scarcity condi
incentive on practical grounds. That
tions. It is today a food for thought.
means, you must give incentive to the
Let the Governm ent decide that next
extent o f at least 40 per cent to en
year this process as to what the coun
trepreneurs; then alone, they w ill go
try needs or how much money for
to settle dow n in rural areas. I do
development purposes and h ow to get
not know w h y steps have not been
this money? Just as w e discuss any
taken to bring out the black money.
other Bill, w hy not the Budget also
W hy could w e not ask those persons
could be discussed in the same
w ho have got black money and tell
fashion?
them that they have to develop the
infra-structure in such and such areas
and i f they develop, w e must not try THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
to ask them from where the money MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHR1M A-
came. Perhaps, that way the black TI SUSHILA R O H A T G I): With your
money w ill com e out and the infra permission, may I seek a clarification
structure w ill also be established and from the hon. Member? Does he
perhaps then rural industries will mean or imply that the taxation pro
come u p quicker. posals instead o f coming from the
Government or the Finance Minister,
should come from the hon. Members
i was wondering why this process o f the House?
of keeping the Budget a “secret
^document” and thereby try to create
a fear psychosis when articles o f DR. K A ILA S: Exactly so. You
daily consumption go underground must tell us only how much money
just before the Budget and also after you need for next year. How the
the Budget? Our feeling is: let the money should come— let it be talked
Finance Minister say in this House over, let the country discuss it and
how much does he need for certain the opinion w ill then crystallise. No
purposes and let the House discuss as articles w ill then go underground as
to from w hich sources Government it happens now-a-days before the
can get this w hole amount. If a dis Budget is out and then later cm too.
cussion takes place, I think a con It is an open secret how petrol goes
sensu* w ill emerge and w e w ill be underground, h ow cigarette* have
able to say that these and these arti gone underground and they com e out
cles should be taxed. X do not think if they are not taxed.
b y this process those w ho are manu
facturing articles w ould take their This is a new idea which I think
articles underground or w ould try to w ill catch up i f not to^dt?, at least
raise the price o f the arttdea. 9Mi alter ten* time.
Finance BIU, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 iSAKA) Finance Bill, 1073 278
When 1 was talking about this that in Manarasmra out aiso iroougnout
w han the coat ot food articles goes tne country. Furtner, w ay are we
.down to a certain level, then perhaps tatting so much o f time not to na
wv«(. ot otner articles w ill also go tionalise loreign oil companies? They
aown. How shall w e do it? The have been troubling us lor nothing.
fin a n ce Minister has tried to do At T o cover up our deficit of motor*
.but in actual practice, it has not com e spirit we must try to nationalise
true. The medium and minor Irriga these oil companies. If w e cannot do
tio n projects have not been energeti it all at once let it be done m tw o
cally undertaken. One can say it to three phases. First w e may take
i s a State subject. But 1 can cite an over distribution and leave the re*
example about which the G overn fineries for some time to be nationa
ment must start thinking. For lised later. If w e take it up step b y
jnedium irrigation project costing step I am sure the country w ill be
between Rs. 25 lakhs to Rs. 1 crore self-sufficient in petrol and lubricat
and for minor irrigation project cost ing oil. Thank you, Sir.
ing about Rs. 25 lakhs, it is not neces
sary for the CPWD or even Planning SHRX SEZHIYAN: (Kumbakonam):
Commission or the Finance Ministry Mr. Chairman, Sir, the annual budget
to com e in the way. But the o f the Central Government gives an
Planning Commission has laid down idea about the extent o f financial
a condition which is outdated, accord authority and the magnitude o f finan
ing to me, that the State cannot in cial resources available to the Gov
clude in the annual State plan medium ernment. In a federal structure
or minor irrigation projects. If it is where w e have got the Union and
allowed to be included, they can get the States, unless we take into assess
their duo share from Central G ov ment the financial authority and the
ernment. If you kindly allow the financial resources available both 10
State Government to put these irriga the Centre and to the States and
tion projects in the State Plan which make a comparison of them, w e w ill
they want to cover in a year, I think not be able to get a true picture o f
the miracle can happen. The Mahara the economic strength of the country.
shtra Government want to spend
The State and the Central bud
Rs. 8.5 crores in 1978-74 and they
gets should be complementary to
have included certain projects but
each other in a healthy way. But if
they cannot take them up fully unless
a comparison is made one is sure to
and until the Planning Commission
com e to the conclusion that it is high
clears them. These projects d o not
time that a reappraisal is made and
relate to river dispute or tribunal.
When the m oney is there and when the allocations done to rem ove the
w e are all anxious that the food pro growing inadequacy and the im ba
duction should go up w hy have these lance in the financial resources and
projects which have not to go fo r the the authority between the Centre and
the States.
scrutiny o f CWPC and Planning
'Commission been not allowed? I hope
In fact several Finance Commis
the Government w ill try to correct
sions have pointed out to this need
this m ove and allow the State gov
fo r reappraisal and the Fourth
ernments to put up their plan in their
Finance Commission also said:
annual budget.
'T h e general charge is that the
Now, I want to draw the attention Union Government has a tendency
of G overnment to the acute nk- to neglect shared revenues, even
in g w ater problem w hich It not on ly shared parts <a on e «n d tine same
item, In favour of non-shared t*»
279 Financt SOI, 1*78 M A Y S , 1»7J '! ntum ct BUil m t ig a
fShri Sezhiyan] 1960-61 to Its. 2646 crores ifcl97*~7S

venues and that there had not been le . three and a half times, Therefore,
adequate exploitation o f the assign the increase In their expenses and
ed taxes mentioned in article 269 their responsibilities has net kept
of the Constitution. Each State pace with the increase in their re
illustrated this view with what it venues, The proportion o f depen
thought was an apt case. Some dence o f the States oh the Central
States had a feeling that as the grants and allocations from the taxes
Constitution now stands, a tempta has gone up from 30 per cent to 41 per
tion on the part o f the Union G o cent in this decade. Therefore, it is
vernment to neglect the State's high time that w e should have a sec
needs is inescapable. A general ond look at the constitutional provi
review of inter-govemm ental finan sions so that the States are bale to dis
charge the responsibilities given to
cial relations to be follow ed by
them in the Constitution.
constitutional amendment, if neces
sary, was also urged,” Here, I would like to quote from
Budget speech of the Chief Minister
o f Tamil Nadu this year. He said:
This recommendation was made a
decade ago and the need now is all “ We have further emphasized
the m ore urgent and necessary. It is .......... that the debt burden on
an accepted formulation that in a States should be reduced; the base
federal structure both the Central and o f divisible taxes should be en
the State governments must each larged; that the corporate tax which
have sufficient financial resources to is primarily an incom e-tax should
perform its exclusive functions. be brought into the divisible pool;
A dequacy and elasticity are both that the percentage o f excise shar
essential Financial adequacy im ed by the States should be increas
plies sufficient resources to discharge ed to 50 per cent and that only by
the responsibilities cast on them. such structural changes, can the
Elasticity implies expansion o f the States be rescued from financial un
resources in relation to the growing certainties.”
needs o f the Government, W e find
that the responsibilities of the States, T h is . is not a new thing and every
are, on the one hand, ever expanding. State has been asking for this. Take
They touch the vital spheres of edu- ' for example, the corporate tax. That
cation, medical services, rural deve should have been included in the
lopment etc. The pace o f expansion divisible pool. A t the time o f con
o f these departments and their activi stitution making in July 1947 to be
ties is not matched by the growth exact, there was a recommendation in
o f revenue for the States. The total the report o f the Union Constitutional
exDenditure in all the States increas Committee, that the tax on companies
ed nearly five-fold from 1960-61 to in addition to some other taxes,
1972-73. I f you take all the States should be included in the divisible
In India, their total expenditure, on pool for the States. In the M emo
developmental as w ell as non-deve- randum o f the Constitution also, as
lopmental accounts, w ere Rs. 98 7, adopted b y the Constituent Assem bly
crores in 1960-61. Whereas fo r the in July 1947, this provision was re
year 1972-73, the same expenses fo r produced. The Expert Committee
all the States put together comes to which w ent into th e question again
its. 4402 crores. almost about to u r and suggested ifaat the States shoal* b e
a half times to five times. The States' asttg n ti a proportion o f the proceeds
revenue increased Rs. 708 crores in o f the corporate tax. But, w hen th e
£fc* 1'tmnce XHH, 1973 VA1SAKHA 12, 1805 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1973 2b2
Constitution was finally adopted, they the corporation taxes which are
^manoeuvred to keep this out even levied on the profits of the com
though very responsible voices were pany have a far greater potentiality
rawed like that of Mr. Santhanam, for expansion than personal
Mr. Ananthaaayanam Aiyyangar, Mr. incomes on which in the main the
B . Das and others that the corporate income-tax it» levied.”
tax should have been included in the
-divisible pool.
This was the observation made by
Mr. S. G. Barve, Finance Minister ot
Further damage was done by the Maharashtra in 1962. A t that time,
Incom c-tux A ct when it was amended Shri Yeshwantrao Chavan was the
by the Finance Act o f 1959. Incom e- Chief Minister there. Therefore, he
tax paid by companies was reclassi should have concurred with what
fied to come under the corporate tax. had come from the Finance Minister
Mr. Chavan is not here. Otherwise, o f that State m the budget proposals.
as Mr. Y. B. Chavan, he would have Now that he occupies the seat in the
accepted m y plea that corporate tax Centre as the Finance Minister I hope
jshould be included in the divisible that he would not have forgotten
pool; as Finance Minister, he might what his Cabinet and his Govern
not. ment had affirmed in Maharashtra.
I would also like to refer to another SHRI G. VISWANATHAN (W an-

State. I quoted the Chief Minister o f diw ash): Now, he is in a different
Tamil Nadu, who belongs to my climate.
party. So, I would like to refer to a
foremost Congress State. In the bud
get speech o f one of the States, it has SHRI SEZHIYAN: If he goes back,
-been stated that: probably he would come back to the
same view. There are some items
“However, an important element w here the Central Government levy
o f corporation tax which untd re taxes, collected by the Union but
cently form ed a part of the divi assigned to the States. There has
sible pool and has been excluded been a persistent charge that the
therefrom by an amendment of the Central Government are not taking
Incom e-tax Act in 1050, would not care o f those items wherein the taxes
be adequately compensated for by are levied and collected by the Union
the slight increase in the percen but exclusively allotted to the States.
tage o f the States’ share in the divi Under article 260, there are a num
sible pool o f incom e-tax receipts. ber of items which have never been
It may also be mentioned that con exploited. I can just point out one
currently with the new formula o f such item, namely taxes on the sale
distribution, the Government of and purchase of newspapers and on
India have abolished the compensa advertisements published by them.
tory grants In lieu o f the corpora Why not impose this tax? I would
tion tax element, which w ere re suggest that w e need not cover all
ceived b y us along with the other the newspapers; w e can include
States since the amendment o f the newspapers published in the Indian
Incom e-Tax Act, 1959. The signi languages, that is, all non-English
ficance at the exclusion o f the cor newspapers. Even among the English
poration tax Is all the greater for dailies, you can exclude those papers
th e future in view o f th e fact that whose circulation is not more than
Under the pattern of planned deve- 30.000 or so. But on all other papers
lfpm apt under way in the country, which get tonnes o f m oney through
283 finance BiUt 1973 MAT 2, Im tm n * * JEHU t m aft*
[Shri Sezhiyan 3 been increased without provirions in
the Finance B i& Presumably tills has
advertisements, you can impose this
been d m through a notification b y
tax and those taxes can be assigned
withdrawing the present concessional,
to the States. X think that an assess
rate. The present eoneentontil rate on
ment has been made that if this tax
a specific duty basis whereas the rate
is imposed on sale and purchase o f in the traffic is ad valorem. That means
newspapers and on advertisements the basis had been changed from the
published in them, about Rs, 3 to specific duty to ad valorem without
3i crores would be realised. the authority o f Parliament, without
statutory sanction I think this is a
PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE very serious matter and hope the Fin
(Rajapur) They are unofficially ance Minister w ill take note o f it.
taxed.
15 hrs
SHRI SEZHIYAN That does not
go to the States but goes somewhere It will be recalled that previously
else the Attorney General had suggested
that such changes cannot be made by
Now, I would like to touch upon a executive order of Government. I do
general mattei o f budget proposals not ha\<? the exact wording o f it, but
and that is in regard to the mischief of I saw his note while going through
altering the structure, sometimes of papers m connection with the Public
altering the rates o f taxes, b y notifica Accounts Committee where it wa*
tions o f Government There have objected to by him
been ample oppoi tumties fo r G overn
ment to rectify thes>e things, but they In the same manner under the Cen
have been cariym g this on foi long tral Excise Schedule, the effective rates
* or, m this, Finance Bill also I find a ic mentioned under each item which
that clauses 24 to 29 deal with cer are not mentioned in the Finance Bill
tain levies o f duties under the Customs li one turns to p 28 o f the memoran
A ct and the Central Excises and Salt dum the effective rates are elaborate
/c t Clause 24 raises the rate o f im l y set out for fents and rags, and tex
port duty on unexposed cinematograph tile fabrics o f various descriptions
films, stainless steel plates, sheets and Presumably these rates are brought in
strips Likewise, clause 2? raises the b y w ay o f notification I do not know
basic duty on fou r articles, changes on what authority the notifications are
the entire description o f six articles issued levying a duty and prescrib
and increases the duty after changing ing the measure for such levy without
the description of smoking mixtures the provision thereof in the main Act
for pipes and cigarettes etc Now The Public Accounts Committee have
levies are also imposed on fou r items commented upon this tendency of
Jf however, one turns to the memo Governm ent to completely alter the
randum explaining the provisions o f structure and rates o f duties b y noti
the Finance Bill. 1973, one w ill find fication One can understand the
that under customs duty six items necessity and the need to feview the
an© referred to w here the rates o f rates w hen certain difficulty is en
city have been increased; but o f these
countered, because the Government
six items, in the Second Schedule to can always reduce it; sometimes they
the Finance Bill on ly tw o items are can change within the limits set b y
mentioned, namely items 29 and 63 Parliament Only thing they cannot
collect in excels of what has been de
It is not understood how the rates cided by Parliament. That ti the plea
o f duty on the other fou r items such they always mafce. But it looks ftth er
as raw cotton, nylon y a m etc. have odd that along wttli the proposal in
285 *W *n te BiU, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1873 286.
the Finance B ill to levy the duty at been completely violated at least m
particular rates, effective rates reduc regard to some of the items I men
ing the proposed levies are also issued tioned.
by the Government without any op
portunity for the Parliament to un Now 1 come to some contents o f the
derstand the reasons for such reduc Finance Bill.
tion. Therefore, 1 want Parliament to
be taken into confidence whenever In my budget speech, I opposed the
the rates are reduced. aggregation of net agricultural in
come for computation o f rate o f tax
The Public Accounts Committee* for non-agricultural income. Not that
tFourth Lok Sabha) in their 111th 1 oppose the idea o f rich farmers who
R epoit ha\e made a severe stricture have benefited out of the Five Year
on Government. They have said: Plans in which thousands of crore'
have been spent, being taxed. Those
*Ag many as 185 (of the 273) noti who have got the benefit out o f it, the
fications sa ve exemptions ranging rich peasantry, should be taxed I
Irom 50 per cent to 100 per cent of am one with Government m that. Bui
the statutoiy rates ot duty. Of in ttym g to do it, I do not want G ov
these, th j number o f notifications ernment to do a thing which is uncon
which *»ave total exemption from stitutional. Because, taxing the agri
tan ff rates was 128 The Committee cultural income, is exclusively allotted
consider it extraordinary that dele to the States and the Centre’s taxing
gated powers given to the executive it m an indirect way, I think, is un
should have been exercised to ren- constitutional. During the budget
dex the statutory tariff a nullity in speech, 1 raise three points on this
a maioritv o f cases.” score. I said it is unconstitutional and
an encroachment of the States’ pow
So whenever they reduce it, whenever ers Secondly, as recommended by
they bring it to nullity, they should the Taxation Enquiry Committee,
come before Parliament and apprise
they should have consulted the
it o f the reasons for reduction, for Attorney-General before coming to
bringing it to nullity Parliament the House Therefore, I demanded
must not be misled. I say this be that the Attorney-General should
cause Parliament is being misled have been consulted and his opinion
Y ou say ‘I propose to charge so taken. Mr. Chavan said that he had
much’ But you reduce it to nullity taken the authority o f the Law Com
by notification If it is necessary to
mission.
show that effective rates are the cor
rect rates, then it is not understood PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Y ou
why Government should not propose are giving the loopholes to the Chief
these effective rates themselves as Ministers.
the standard rates so that Parliament
may not be misled as to the correct SHRI SEZHIYAN: I w ill com e to
rates that w ill be adopted in respect that. I said— and it is not m y view
o f the various commodities. This is alone but it is the view expressed b y
a matter o f serious concern to Par the Taxation Enquiry Committee— that
liament as it tends to erode their the Attorney-General should be eon*
effective control over taxation m ea suited. They have not consulted him.
sures. I hope the Finance Minister The Law Commission has n o locus
and the Finance Ministry w ill take standi as far as Parliament is con
very serious note o f this because in cerned. It is the Attorney-General
the Action Taken R eport I find th ey who should have been consulted.
have sim ply said 'Recommendation Therefore, I have already given a
noted’. I do not think they have motion that the Attorney-G eneral *
observed it because in the F in - Should b e called to dftrify certain
*nce B ill presented to the House it has pomts.
[Shri Sezhiyan] been bald in the past, there is no
Tfee jthird thing was, the States also regular provision o r . convention
should have been consulted in this about preliminary consultation.”
matter, because, article 274 says:
They have suggested that this is one
“ No Bill or amendment which im fit case where before obtaining the
poses or varies any tax or duties in recommendation o f the President, they
w hich States are interested, or with should have collected the opinion o f
varies the meaning of the expres the States interested in it.
sion ‘agricultural income' as defined
for the purposes o f the enactments In his reply, the Finance Minister,
relating to Indian incom e-tax, or Mr. Chavan, referred to two or
which affects the principles, etc......... three criticisms. A t that time, I tried
— shall be m oved.......... except on to intervene and raise this issue. He
the recommendation o f the Presi said that “the leader of the DMK
d e n t” party had raised a point on the cons
titutionality of which I would make
one request to him. A n y criticism on
O f course, they have not said there
merits can be made,” etc.
that the States should be consulted;
but they say that the recommendation
Mr. Chavan said that if the States
of the President should have been wanted, they could have collected it
obtained, before introducing the Bill.
long before. Prof. Dandavate said
that this would give loopholes to the
If you take the fourth Finance Chief Ministers.
Commission’s report, you w ill find that
they have dealt at length with article Mr. Chavan said in the year 1972,
274 and said how it is not enough just while talking to the AICC meeting in
to procedurally adopt the provisions June, as follow s:
by getting the. recommendation of the
President They have made it amply “ Regarding the new class of the
riear that m achinery should be devis rich peasantry, Mr. Chavan said that
ed so that the affected parties like while thousands o f crores have
the States are consulted before recom been invested in the five year Plans
mendation is given. The Fourth on agriculture which was the most
Finance Commission said: important sector its contribution to
the exchequer has been negligible.
“Article 274 would appear to have W « hope that the Chief Ministers
been purposefully framed to fore would show some courage."
stall and to remedy misunderstand
ings such as these. This article pro The Tamil Nadu Chief Minister
vides in effect that no proposal showed some courage and put the
which in any way affects the existing agricultural incom e-tax. There was a
or prospective financial interests of frenzied agitation then organised by
the States shall be presented to the rich peasantry and big landlords.
Parliament except on the recom It was supported by the Congress
mendation o f the President. An (Organisation), the Swatantra, and the
explicit provision for a recom m en ruling Congress and the CPI, and it
dation by the President should nor was blessed by the Central Ministers.
mally entail some mechanism other Mr. Subramaniam and Mr. Mohan
than the usual briefing and advice Kumaramangalam. who came all the
from Hie concerned Ministry at the w ay to Tam il Nadu to support it
Centra. W hile on several important openly.
subjects o f common financial inter
ests, consultations with Individual SHRI FJXO0 M O P Y : Bles*ed are
States and groups of States have those who get blessed by them. ;
289 Finance Bill, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1973 290
SHRI SEZHIYAN: Therefore, we greater measure o f equity and elas

cannot be blamed. W e tried to put ticity in the tax structure of the
agricultural income-tax. It was op States. W hile the Economic Survey
posed b y the Congress (R ) in Tamil concedes what I have been pleading
Nadu. Mr. Y. B. Chavan would for, the Finance Minister in his reply
better talk to those persons in Tamil to m y points, says that it does not fall
Nadu and explain to them why agri within the purview of the States. Still
cultural incom e-tax should be levied 1 hold that this is unconstitutional
on rich peasants. and if it is contested before the Sup
reme Court it might be struck down.
Z have said that the States should
have been consulted before Raj Com
I shall now refer to the method of
mittee’s recommendations w ere im
computing the net agricultural income.
plemented, especially the aggregation
M y assessment is that you cannot do
o f the agutultural and non agricul
it unless you change the definition oi
tural income for computation of tax.
‘ Total Income” , Supreme Court and
In his reply he said:
High Court judgements on that issue.
1 want the House to consider very
“ When we said that the report had
carefully rule 8, now rule 10, in the
been submitted .that does not mean
Jinanee Bill. It says that for the
that the recommendations which are
purposes o f computation o f net agri
sources of revenue at their disposal
cultural income, the provisions o f the
should not be acted upon.”
Incom e-tax Act relating to procedure
for assessment w ill apply, with neces
I should invite his attention to page
sary modifications, as they apply in
52 o f the Economic Survey which
says: l elation to the assessment of total in
come under that Act. What they
"The States have long been com cannot do directly, they try to do in
plaining about the inelasticity of the directly. This itself shows that the
sources of revenue at their disposal. computation o f the net agricultural
The Committee appointed under the income cannot form part o f present
chairmanship of Dr. Raj to examine provisions of the Incom e-tax Act.
ways of raising more revenue by
taxing agricultural income sub There may be many Acts dealing
mitted its report sometime ago. The with agricultural income and all theSf*
Committee’s major recommendations /vets may have to be redefined because
include the imposition o f aggregated \ou change the definition of the agri
levy on operational holdings, partial cultural income as per the Incom e-Tax
integration o f agricultural and non- Act, which w ill affect the State Acts
agricultural incomes for the pur also. There also they should be very
pose of calculating incom e-tax liabi careful. It appeared to m e very
strange why they had changed the
lity and the treatment o f the fam ily
n;>me of the “Regulatory Duty” into
as the basis o f assessment___ The
“ Auxiliary Duty” . In the budget
Central Government have remitted
to the States Raj Committee’s re speech, the Finance Minister stated
commendations since their imple that “ for certain reasons, it is not
mentation falls within their pur possible to incorporate the provisions
view’.” in the Bill.” The regulatory act can
regulate the taxes or introduce addi
In other words, the Economic Survey tional taxes. The ‘auxiliary’ , b y the
concedes that the implementation of very word, means ‘subsidiary to a basic
these recommendations falls within the o n e / I can show you many items
purview o f the State Governments. where there is no basic duty. But,
The Survey says further that suitable they have put the auxiliary duty. H ow
action on the recommendation o f the can there be an auxiliary or subsidiary
Committee w ould help bring about a duty w here there is n o basic duty?
857 LS— 10.
391 Finance BiU, 1973 M AY 2, m s Fl«cncc SiU. l f » 29i
(Shri Sezhiyan]
m j f , fkvpfN r w w w to t,
On page 44 o f the memorandum you iprrft n-Cb* srcrsr f t , £t®e t o t ,
w ill find very many items Take lo r
wd vf % t o t o
vr m m
example zinc There is no basic duty
but you have put the auxiliary duty. 8t*i%
A lso take lor exam ple aluminium or i 1
tm plates where there is n o basic
wi «r>rar TOT fftr f*TT^
duty
duty
Y ou are putting the auxiliary
This is something ridiculous enjpfr 1 m m y»areforer
When the basic duty is not there, you m f<T8% t o t «rrr t$ t i
cannot put this I think lo r other
things.
|tr s p tfw *5t | f a tf*
I want to say one thing about the g rro m *?r v* % to

income tax arrears There have been % f r * r q fr isw f t % w i p
quite a number o f reports given by
m m 1
the Public Accounts Committee The
tax arrears have been mounting to
over 800 crores I do not know w rut
steps have been taken by Governm ent W a w ?TRrr> w r s t —
to w ipe out the heavy backlog Tae
Departments have been unable o v an f i R it jjpTCt f^PTcTTT ^— sff^FFT Wlflff
t(. assess m a correct way what arc* WPTT WT *T^cT f Sflr jW I
the arrears If w e ask three officers
^f*TO RT 3TT fctFm p—
tc give figures thev w ill give thr<»e O
different figures If you take the same — 4* ?TT fT I I ’t

report m one page there w ill be yne ?pqrr* fr rm f fa w r *rm Spr*
figure and in another page there will
frr t o ^ rw r T tf t o
be another figure There is an utter
confusion m the collection of arrears ffT I ¥*T f fw T 'f f H 5TT
of taxes I do not know whether the 5Trr r % f — ^TTTT
incom e-tax is there to collect the tates
or for the benefit of the country or i« ft T T H TfaT ^TRTl^rr 7 t TTT?q^»T
it ih °re to be used as an instrument to 3STTST ? T 5 T F ^ r n T '? ^ T T*T r m ^TPT
ccerce or to intimidate certain indivi * r *T r f r r ? TTT *TT T*T
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299 Finance Bill, 1973 M AY 2, 1973 Finance Bill. 1973
border The strategic roads that had

[Shri N K Sanghi]
been built served a wonderful job, by
parties saying? These matters w ill faster mobility, of securing the mis
have to be viewed in a proper pers sion for which our armed forces were
pective But I am bound to agree with fighting And what is the condition
one thing that w e fought Indo-Pakis- of Rajasthan today* Rajasthan has 5 2
tan wax not as a society o f an egali per cent of the total roads of the
tarian system but we fought it as a country wheteas Rajasthan comprises
society of affluent people While 10 r> per cent of the total area of the
the war m Bangladesh against country It is high time that m ore stra
Pakistani Junta was going on there tegic roads are built up in the area,
was nc$ rationing o f petrol, there was more strategic railways are built up
no rationing of food stuffs, there was m that area These will not only
no rationing o f meat or eggs The feel serve the cause o f economy m peace
ings o f the people were very high and by removing the backwardness of the
nationalism was at a high pitch The area but will also prove valuable dur
people were very disciplined It was ing the time of confrontations
our good fortune that war finshed
eaxly Had it continued for a longer
We were very much disappointed
period, all these difficulties would
when we found that the oil refinery,
have come in our way This war na
much against the recommendations
turally lesulted m many constraints,
of the expeit committee was ultimate
and had a bad effect on our economy
ly shifted to U P We were also dis
The constraint1? are now being felt m
appointed that the fertiliser plant was
oui country, m the way ot rising
not ( imins to Rajasthan W e have
pi ices and the different maladies that
large depots of zinc, still the zinc
we are seeing todav What ait the
sm Her in Udaipur was not e>panded
imancial proposal^ lor 1973-74 * B\
also no second plant has been given
these something is sought to be done - 1o Rajasthan the second /m< smelt* t
how the various difficulties can 1e
has been finalised to be located at
taken care ot how the problems cun
Visdkhapatnam We have also large*
be tackled We would have appieci leposits of limestone As Shri K D
ate i it the Members on the Opposite
V lalam a was saymg we need more
had given some concrete suggestions
! icnt f»cton es Rajasthan is a State
wheu we tan have more ement fu
I come from Rajasthan There i t rit with bettei economies In
shadow of famine looming largo in iclditio to limestom we have als
Rajasthan People are destitute, theic 1 it v sits of gypsum and pyritf
>s shortage o f food shortare of water arjrf hctKe R ijasthan is a mote suit
Todav the industrial development m A •» State for having a fertiliser plant
Rajasthan has been very negligible r i u e f le Government hou 1 hav
Every Member who comes fiom that ai >th' i look into the matter
State knows the conditions of t h i4
State better It is, in that light 1
v ’ant to say that the industrial deve I would like to say that in the
financial proposals a heavy impost of
lopment in Rajasthan has been on
customs duty, 50 paise per metre, ha
low key
l-oen imposed on raw films—negative
In the Indo-Pakistan war our for and positive films The Finance Minis
tes did a valienl job on the Rajasthan ter has been kind enough to show
border It was an area where we some concession to black and white
had occupied the largest area in the films I would like to draw his at
country of the enemy's territory And tention to the fact that India is one
I would like to congratulate the de of the largest film producers of th<.
fence forces w ho had thought of the world In India we produced as
strategic roads m Rajasthan on the many as 401 films, o f which 239 were
3PI Finance Bill, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1973 302
black and white and 165 coloured. If a case for simplifying the taxation
you have such a heavy impost on raw law.
films, the industry w ill be crushed,
I would like to draw your attention
and the production of films will be
to what happened to our law and how
aifected, What is the economy of film
it become cumbersome. I would give
Industry today? If you check up the
you a simple instance— the life insu
statistics from the income-tax depart
rance premium deduction. The Govern
ment, you will find that 20 per cent
ment has been good enough to allow
o f the producers go out of the industry
certain deductions to the people from
every year because of heavy losses. II
their life insurance premium on their
a person pays He. 1 for admission to
assessment. I would give you an ex
a cinema, only 20 paise go to the
ample. In 1961, 25 per cent of the
producer, exhibitor and distributor
total income subject to a maximum
whereas 80 paise go to the coffers of
of Rs. 8000 had been allowed as life
the Government, This is a highly
insurance premium deduction. What
generative economy, and m the back
happened m 1962? 25 per cent of the
ground of that, I would request that
total income was allowed subject to
this industry should be allowed lo
a maximum of Rs. 10,000. Then, what
survive and the levy o f 50 paise per
happened in 1965? 60 per cent of the
metre should be reduced considerably
because this is going to affect the first Ks. 500 and 50 per cent of the
production of films in our country. balance amount was allowed as deduc
tion. In 1966—25 per cent of the to
tal income or Rs. 12,500 whichever was
less. Then it was changed in 1968-
So much has been said about direct
69 as. to 71-72. It was 30 per cent ot
taxation laws. We have had a large
the total income or Rs. 15000 which-*
number of commissions and commit ever was less. In 1973-74 the quan
tees—JVlathai Commission, Direct Taxes
tum of the first deduction has been-
Reforms Commission, BoothaUngam
raised from Rs. 1.000 to Rs. 2.000 fo r
Commission; so many administrative
qualiiying for the amount of the life
committees have also gone into them;
and the latest annng them is the insurance premium deduction. I am
only drawing this example to your
Wanchoo Committee. We are told
kind consideration that if you go on
that the Government has accepted 200
changing the laws on small matters,
recommendations o£ the Wanchoo
whom J»re you going to benefit? Every
Committee. It would have been better
year there is a different qualification,
if that Bill had been brought forward
there is a different system. He does
before the discussion of the financial
not know whore he is going an 1 it is
proposals for the year li)7.:-74 was
very difficult ior the common man to
over. What is happening to the Income
plan his future even for the sake of
Tax Act? What has happened to
the Department^ Whenever any new life in su ran t premium or for safe
guarding his future premium deduc
changes are brought in, they keep on
tions.
making some additions, further provi
sos and subtractions and so on, with It was said on the floor of this
the result that the whole thing be House that levy of agricultural tax
comes quite unintelligible to the com is rather unconstitutional. I would not
mon man. Every man in this country go into the merits cr demerits of the
W'ould like to pay his taxes. But the same, but I certainly feel that this
question is: how the taxes are going levy of agricultural income tax Is
to be determined. How is he to under not a very reasonable one. It is not
stand? What is the way of determina going to have a reasonably good effect
tion o f the tax? He is not able to in the whole country. I would not say
realise as to what is the method by that we are on a stage of the green
which he is going to pay the tax. revolution, I would only say that we
That is the difficulty. There is clearly are on the threshold of a green revo-
Finance Bill, 1973 MAY 2, 1973 Finance Bill. 1973
[Shri N. K. Sanghi] cent of the assessees who must have

lution. There must be some hon. Mem returned ti1e correct valuation ct their
bers wh.: may be having both agricul prcperty_ If that be so, I 1.hink the
tural and non-agricultural income. 1f over-pitching of assessments is :WO per
we are to give them a ready-reckoner cent by 1lle Department. I feel this
and say this is your income, how a:i;f is a matter which should be seri
you going to pay the tax? It will be ously louKed into. A 20(J per cent over
very difficult for a man, even to hon. pitching by the Department is going
Memoe.s of Parliament, i.: compute to cause severe trouule. To-day the
their tax. Suppose, there is a mem penalty of this over-pitching is 200 per
ber who is having an agricultural in cent which 1s mandat.:;ry. I feel the
come of Rs. 25,000 and if he has also Department should have a fresh look
non-agricultural income, I am sure into tne matter and examme it
that he would shun from generating thorougtlly. I have been discussing with
his own econom y from non-agri:::ultural one oi lne Government surveyors. I
sources with the result that the coun asked him as to what is his yardstick
try's economy would sufier. It is in for evaluating the property. He said
this context to create confidence in 'We do not have any yardstick. S.:me
the agriculturists, I feel and I agree times \\'e go by MES rates, sometimes
w'ith the earlier speaker, that this is we go by the built-up area value'. It
a matter whi:::h is better left t o the is a different yardstick. Certainly in
State Governments and in case it is the garb of th!::se dilferent yardsticks
decided by the State Governments, they are c:reatmg havoc and the as
constitutional changes may b e made sessees will lose their failh and this is
so that these are brought within the a very serious matter. He told me
purview of the Central Gcvernment emphatically that he was not con
and some effective steps are taken. cerned wi,h the PWD construct.on
rates in Rajasthan; .he was only taking
I would like to draw the attention into consideration the Central Gov
of the hon. Minister t o one more ernmeni PWD rate when he was
thing. The Income Tax law has not evaluatrng the property. How can the
given what is allow€d under the Gra State Government carry on the con
tuity Act. Under the Income Tax struction work with their own rates
law a maximum cf 15 months' salary which is much lower than the Central
or Rs. 24,000 was allowed as deduction Government rate? It is a matter
but, a:::cording to the Gratuity Act of which will have to be seriously con
1972 which was passed by this House, sidered. We should not get in a posi
a payment of 20 months salary is tion where the people are harassed by
being allowed. This anomally should less charitable officers.
be rectified and the Gratuity Act
should be brought on par with the
Income Tax Act or the Income Tax
Act r ectified in this matter. Sir, today the Income Tax Depart
ment has been working in a manner
I find from the financial report for which merits lot of criticism. I am
the current year that they have set up reminded of a story from Parkinson"s
a valuation cell for the valuation of law. A laundry was burnt and when
property. In this report they have said it was burnt he went to a bank and
that they have ccmpleted 657 cases out applie d for a small loan which was
of 702 cases in the last 8 months. They sanctioned within a period of two to
assessed a wealth tax of Rs. 26 crores three months. A large number of
that was returned by the assessees loans were sanctioned to small people
and over-pitched the as,sessment to like that and ultimately some one
Rs. 37 crores. There was an increase woke up in the ':lank as to how so
of 140 per cent in the assessment of much loans have been sanctioned so
the returned wealth. I am sure that quickly. A committee went into
there mum: be at least 30 or S5 per this and they made the f<rms very
3©5 Finance Bin, 1973 VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAK A) Finance Bill, 1373 306
cumbersome. They were made so ilnances are not being granted to them
much cumbersome that nobody could by the Finance Ministry. Particular
fill up those forms, without making ly when the Irrigation and Pow er
some mistakes here and there. With Ministry was asked to explain the
that all the bureaucrats were happy. power failure, the Minister incharge
Today they say that the laws cannot stated that they have submitted the
be made easy and things can be taken necessary schemes to the Finance
at their face. 1 feel the simplification Ministry. But the Finance Ministry
o f taxation law will go a long way In is not coming forward with a requisite
generating a proper economy. We financial sanction. I therefore submit
should also see that the agricultural that the Finance Ministry is whoiely
lux today is postponed till a certain responsible for the chaotic conditions
consensu* is developed by the States. mentioned by me. It is a sad com
mentary on the efficiency o f this
Government and party to see that
While concluding my speech I
such unfortunate conditions continue
would appeal to the Finance Minister
to prevail even after 25 years of our
to consider a few points. Government
should consider raising the exemption independence and Congress rule.
limit from Rs. 5,000/- which is today
Because of good monsoon last year
at a very very low keel. The penalty
w t w eie patting ourselves on the
prov.sions under different Sections
back ancl are proud of our achieve
should be reduced. I think the physi
ments. We were very vocal about the
cal 1 unishment should be reduced
so-called green revolution. Because
considerably. The provisions in regard
to advance tax are very very difficult those favourable conditions are not
there this year we express our help
Today a man is asked to file the
lessness and take shelter under the
returns by 15th March of what he is
supposed to earn by 31st March. This excuse o f drought and famine We
factor should be looked Into carefully £»lô talk of the calamity in Bangla
so 1h it the tax-pa>cr not put in desh. The*e are the two reasons they
jeopardy for calculating tax as on can think of.
future dnte and paying the advance
tax at an earlier date. In conclusion My submission is that we have
I would submit that the language of never tn ed to analyse the repeated
the Tax Act should be simpli failures One of the reasons could be
fied so that it could be understood by bad planning
the common man or layman. With
these words I wish that the Finance If a country has to achieve progress
Bill be passed. m the fields of agriculture and indus
try, particularly progress should be
achieved in the production o f power.
•SHRI N SATYA N AR AY AN RAO Tii.tt field o f activity has been so bad
(Karrnnaijar >: The Finance Minister ly neglected in this country that w e
has m tiodced this Finance Bill and d >n't have a parallel. No country in
expects this Bill to be passed I am the world would neglect pow er as our
not ready to support it Because the country did Here the emphasis seems
country is passing through chaotic to be on production o f hydroelectric
conditions, the responsibility of which power. If you see the other developing
not only falls on the shoulders o f the countries the emphasis seems to be on
Government but also on the Finance the production o f thermal power. We
Minister. Recently w e have discussed don’t lack in the resources for pro
the demands concerning the Ministry duction o f thermal power. Inspite o f
o f Agriculture and Irrigation and no p ro stoss has been made in the
Pow er. The Ministers incharge of production o f thermal power. This
those Ministries say that necessary field o f thermal electricity production
♦The original speech was delivered in Telugu.
,3©7- . vhwawe* Bill, 1®73 -;;r4 ^ 398
[Shri Satyanarayan Rao] w ould solve drinking water problem

of the c ity o f Warangal. Several mem
has been very much neglected In this orandums have been submitted on this
country. We have vest resources of issue. Inspite o f all this the conditions
coal. II w e want to achieve prorgess remain as they w ere and these projects
industrially, w e need power. If w e remained incomplete. I therefore once
are to tap the resources o f sub-soil more submit that the Finance should
water, w e require power. W e all know sanction the necessary funds as early
the difficulties w e are lacing because as possible so that these projects could
o f lack o f this power. be taken up and completed.
Today, the country is facing a great There is a doubt in the minds of

power shortage, as a result o f which the people that the Finance Minister
several industries had to be closed is concentrating on the State o f Maha
down. The field o f agriculture is also rashtra, because he belongs to that
a sufferer in the bargain. State. There is no doubt that there
are fam me conditions in that State.
Everybody is proclaiming that there But there are other States also which
would be no need to import foodgrains suffer from the same malady and re
even the Prime Minister has said it. quire the attention of the Finance
W e know the conditions that are pre Minister equally. Y ou know the
valent. Could w e produce the quan drought and famine conditions o f the
tities o f foodgrains that is required by State of Andhra Pradesh. When we
this country? It is very doubtful. sought the help o f the Governm ent we
My feeling is that a situation has ari are told that because o f the agitations
sen when we cannot but import food that are prevalent thero nothing could
grains from other countries. There be done. Not only does Andhra Pra
fore all this boils down to the fact desh suffer neglect in the field of
that the Finance Ministry was res development but also it suffers in the
ponsible for not sanctioning the re field of Railways, I beg to submit that
quisite schemes which go to give a not even a single new lines has been
fillip to the production o f power. taken up since independence in my
Slate, When w e ask for new lines
I would like to mention another they accuse us o f spoiling the lines
point about the development o f back that were existing. You have got an
ward area and I w ill be done. You excellent excuse in this agitation any
always w ax eloquent about the deve thing we ask for. Here I would like
lopment o f backward areas. You to mention about a proposal for a
know the conditions in the region of Railway link between Ramagundam
Telengana w hich is very backward. and Nizamabad. When we requested
A great agitation was made on that the Railway Minister for this line be
point. This agitation was made with expressed his inability h?.*c??us* of lack
the aim that Telengana should be of: funds. He says that if the Finance
brought on par econom ically with Ministry sanctions funds, he would
other advanced areas o f the State of not have any objections. This line is
Andhra Pradesh. I would like to ask a very important line. It is a known
as to what action has been taken by fact that several industries are coming
this Government in this direction from up around Kamagundam. This line
1969 on wards. If you ask me no goes through the area o f the Pocham-
action has been taken, I would say. padu project. This railway link would
There w ere tw o projects, namely, be an important step towards the in
Pochamnadu and Maneru. These p ro dustrial and econom ic progress o f that
jects are incomplete fo r w ant o f area. I therefore once m ore submit
funds. If Maneru project is taken up that the necessary finances should be
it would not only h elp in increased sanctioned to the Railw ay Ministry
production o f foodgrains; but also for taking u p this lin t.
309 Fa , 1978 VAISAKHA1
ience BM 2
, 1895(SAKA
) F
.nauce B
»U, 913 3
10
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3xi Appo
intmen
tof MAY 2, 0
78 h
ief Ju
sticeo
fInd
ia ( is
.) 3
12
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1$ ito g
fp has agreedto have h is half
-hour dis
cussion pos
tponed, and *0 we can a i
t
^ wm 3 f *
ref ti
ll 7 p.m. today, wh ich willgive us
three hourstoday. I me tthe eade rs
f^rr tot \ sr
tff ^
ofthe Oppos it
ion also, andthe desire
fP^T |
55T
T fc Wt 3
r is that we should have ano the
rth ree
3
^r t ^^
«p s
rnr
ct hours which will e on Fr iday and
,i f
necessary
, the spi
llover can etaken
q
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r *t s>
ft *
ft fa up to Monday .
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. HA
IRMAN : On Monday
, i
t
gf srr
fwr % ?rte s
rrf
asn
:
w
ill no
t e po
ssile
.
f^T^rr ^ q
rt
1.03 h
rs.
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fer t
fft
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?tot c
fr SHR I K. RA H RAMA IAH : I
havejus t now men tioned tha ti f you
srrc t w * t tfiT agree,i t wil
l suitu s to have the d is
^r m r | t stft ^ smt * r
tff% cussion today t il
l7 O ’
clock. I have
met the oade rs o f the Oppo s
ition
2 «FT tS ‘ Tcp j ^ <f
tI , l^Tr TTfi
efore you came Sh r
i Sama r uhai s
?f
f *ttsjtm it
fsR oft ^ ^pe t» wi
llingto havethe ha l
f-hou rd iscu
ssion
*WT «T «rifTSfP
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T,'aT
’T <TT f sfHT ?
Pp
Tostponed . So, we cou ld have ih ree
hour
. stoday,sit upto 7p .m.
, andthen ,
S*T R H fft ft t
if the gene ral des
irei s tha t the tota
l
time shou ld e a ou t s ix hou rs
, we
H>m fa *$Wl . *T «T^ TT
'TT tan take the re stofi t on F riday and,
if ne ces
sary,the spill
-ove r on Monday .
^rtnr ^ s rr f
t r# 1 3 sr f^r
193 % *Rnrr ^ t3
ttt MR SP AK R Ithough
ttha
ttwo
hour
s wou
ld su
ff
ice
.
SHRI ATA IHARI VAJPAY

( wa
lior)* The en
tire jud
iciary ha
s
1.
02h
rs. een under-mmed
.
IS SS
ION R . APPOINTM NT OF MR SP AK R; Three hou
rs today
,
HI F J ST
I OF IN IA andthree mo
re hou
rson what day?
SHRI K RA H RAMA
IAH* F
ri
*
ft *T
J fa**? (* m ) : «RT day and Monday
.
s
*r % f^r w
'ri w f fy
rsr
ffn
r forr
*n
rr £’ MR SP AK R On Fr
iday we have
pr
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e Meme r
s* u
siness
.
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TH M IN
IST R OF PAR IAM NT
ARY AFFA IRS (SHRI K. RA H SHRI K . MA AVIYA < oma r
ia-
RAMAIAH )
: Sir
, a ou
t the t
ime
,I ganj
): Sir
, am I to unders
tand that
wi
shto su mi
tthat Mr
. Samar uha six hou
rs have een a
llot
ted to th
is?
3i3 Appo
intmen
tof VA
ISAKHA 12
. 1805 (SAKA
) Ch
ief Ju
sti
ceo
f 3
I4
Ind
ia (D
is.
)
Whatw i
iltheyspeakon
,fors
ix hou
rs, (In t
erruptions) We sha ll fin
i sh i t on
1do no
t know. Friday andIsha l
l no t admit anyo ther
motionontha tday—no377 mo tion and
SHR I H.N . MUKERJEE(Ca lcutta— no calla t
ten t
ion andi f you a llow me,
North -East)
; The M inister just now
no que s
tion sa lso
...(Int e
rruption s
) No
toldthe Hou se aboutthet iming, abou t motionsunde r 377 a lso; we w ill make
which he d id no ttake ou r consenta s up some o thertime ; I shal
l adm itone
far a&1can makeou t, becauseinth i3 or two mo re.
discus s
ionthecogency and con tinuity
wou ld belo stinthe way m wh ichthe
prog rammei s suggested. I qu ite con •
ft **rfwr (srm ) :
cede th *>ttho F inan ce B il
l requ i
res
seriou s consideration, bu t some thing «rwn % «
t
p?
ough t to be done in o rder that the sh
t'
t 3
fT
Tjtst qr %fa
ir
discu ss
ion ofth i
s mo tion does no tlose
fwp- n 1TRT W % 5FT
itsfo rcv on a ccounto fi ts be
ingcu to f
f
in & o many compa r
tmen t
s. ferr *
s nm— ^ sr
fHft
r
§
r (sow*) ...
.
MR
. SPEAKER: The F inan
ce BU
I
ha
sto be pa
ssed tomo
rrow. «
tt *
r*r
»raf fa rn
rr
^ |ST .
.. («WHW) _
__
SHRI SHYAMNANDAN M ISHRA
(Begusarai)
: Ano the
r subm i s
sion I
wantto make. We have go t so many 5WT?WW fa? ( W T ) :
thing
sin ou r m inds on this subje
ct
VRT
fnr n^
-mr
,
thatitis not goodtha tthi
s sub je
ctis
cutlike tha
t. TO S
P9T *T
£T TOI *TT^
aw *
fm wrt ¥T sre
MR SPEAKER : We canno
t po
st
pone the F
inan
ce Bi
ll toh f
t, TH
faTT^ T
ffrtost
to ...
MR SPEAKER : After a l
l th i
s
3
ft f^FT ^ fJWT T
Tr*T
*r
?TT debate has to go on for qui
te a few
hou
rs>. A l
l o f you w il
l have to be
a
rfa
r**
r iT
ft tfa vz
qui
te serious and shou
ld notin ter
rup t
s
syn
r ?
fr £ i fw each other. Letit go on with dignity
and g race I tis a very impo rtant
debatetha tisgoingon: do notspoilit
am 3
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, W V
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q
^nc
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rin *
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v
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j
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?FfnT ^ *
fr
MR. SPEAKER Wha t 1propose to fa ‘
^rr
q^r %«p
*rc* *
ft
do is th is. On F riday I sha l
l no t r
r?n *F
t£
adm i
t any ca lla t
tention mo t
ion. We
wf
t fan *
r n
t*f
r
can take the re sto f the time be fore
the commen cemen to f Pr ivate Mem ^ fc
fan ^
rrc
cf
?f
t5TT qr ...
bers’ Bu s
iness. We canno t po s
tpone
(m m ) —
the Finan ce BUItomo rrow;itisa lready
fixed andi t would be a bad p recedent
if we did so. We can pos tpone the wnm : WT STRT^ 1
other businesstoroneortwo day s and * f
cST
CTT nfw?
takei t up on Monday next You w in
havenewideasdur ingtheho lidays—
6
315 Appo
intmen
tof MAT2
,1973 Ch
iefJu
sti
ceo
f Ind
ia(D
is) 3
. 1
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r ww
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ng^
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r fam t i
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India (Dis.)
MR, SPEAKER: I am seriously con- w j f? n w . ?rr w t | u t ?

jsidering the observation made by Mr.
Madhu Limaye. He is going on a very ?»n? m ?«r ^ f w T s fr r *r«r f*r5t
thin line. The moment he comes on s r* % ?r»Tfir € t, eft %%
this side, I will be very careful. Leave
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“The allegations made in para
PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He graphs 2, 5 and 6 of the petition, if
“Will not fall down from the thin line. read together, do show that the al
legation against the respondent is
that she obtained the assistance of
vft * * f t w : $ fa w r Yashpal Kapur, a gazetted officer, to
wrsrr % fo n rt support her candidature by organis
afar Tfr | i ing her electioneering work. These
allegations bring out all the ingre
dients of the corrupt practice alleged
w f t W 5RT *T & ri * f* % though they are lacking in better
particulars such as the date on which
^ fr^TT^ f a v i *raf srnr
Yashpal Kapur was entrusted with
*Tfa?r ^ ar^ «n ff «rrfw the responsibility of organizing the
sfr 1 electioneering work o f the respon
dent. The absence of these parti
SHRI M. D. JAMILURRAHMAN culars does not per $e invalidate the
(K ishanganj): On a point o f order. charge. They can be supplied even
M y point o f order is whether this fact now with the permission of the
has been mentioned in the order paper court. In this connection it is neces
o f the court. If it is mentioned, then sary to mention that the respondent
he is entitled t0 refer to that; if, how in her written statement did not say
ever, it is r*ot mentioned, he should that the allegations in question did
not be allowed to mention that. not raise a triable issue. ”
MR. SPEAKER; I am interested tc

know that the judges also think like
that. *nar¥r *rgftar, 9§<t | :
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sary to mention that the respondent
rcfrar farr, ^ wr f?r in her written statement did not s*y
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not raise a triable issue. No such
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at the time 0* the framing of the
SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chiray- issues or in any of her pleadings.
Snkil): How many judges? It seems that the objection was
taken up for the first time when the
«fT WWrflT : «IT 3nTm^T TlTsT, petition to set aside the interroga
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these only to show as to how the
parties understood the allegations at
SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Both of the earlier stages, o f the proceed
them are still in the Court
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India (Dis.)
absence, the ceniormost Judge o f Uas
Supreme Court available/*
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executive wishes to make subject to
the concurrence at the Legislature is
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appointment being influenced by poli
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steers a middle course.1' 12 4 9 irr *rr 5#r & 1
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339 MAY 2,
|«ft w tfw * WITT** *t**r] Parliament as giving them t u n u i ^ '

and shock. |f thit appolntment had
sp rit < r«# % ¥*wr % r violated any o f the articles o f tats
Constitution and i f 1 k * ’W tesi&Sht ha4
ftrerc % *F$far tft wn* x m f^ fir
transgressed his limits in appointing
to «pt ^ | m ^t w m Mr. Justice Ray as the Chief Justice,
*r$i % fa<* to r | » s a fs ^ I could w ell appreciate any surprise
or shock, that might have l&een
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W q W T S T R T ir ^ r | | The question naturally arises.
Under Article 124 the appointment of
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a judge of the Supreme Court as the
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*xm $ fa Trt^rf?r aft % aft dent is done by warrant. Seniority
is not the principle, though that
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^ *r% ^ r %*r *r fatfrfcft merely because he joined the court
earlier than others. That does not
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give him the right to any claim ovei
gft **r srw . * t ^ itt* sm t| others w ho are equally meritorious ox
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When a judge o f the High Court is
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promoted as a judge o f the Supreme
srahr wVt yt m arsR t$ * t Court, does he not supersede his
w rf^[ ifh : fcrr y t q tftsi *t brother judges of the high courts w ho
are senior to him? Has not Shri
tft httost T?prr ^nf?«7, i f^nrt Hedge superseded his other colleague*
s j m *psft storat s .fo r r T O t s f a in * when he was appointed Chief Justice
yt *rSM¥ apr% Stf ^ r apt S?ft TTftTT o f the Delhi High Court? Did not
Shri Grover supersede his colleagues,
fârRT ^rrfcft § i in the Punjab High Court when ho
was appointed as Justice o f the
Supreme Court and brought here from
5* n «f % *rw # * n w r arf<r Punjab? So the seniority is not the
w v^ tr | f% *m % *$sf w r r principle on which the President
should proceed.
fclTT I
Coming to the report of the Law
SHRI JAGANNATH RAO iChat- Commission what does it say? It
rapu r): For the first time in the says that seniority is not the only
last 23 years, the appointment o f tiie principle to be adhered to. The
Chief Justice of India figures in Par suitability o f the judge has also to be
liament by w ay o f a discussion. So considered. A person w ho may be
many appointments have been made senior may not be suitable. Suitability
earlier, but at no time did Parlia is more important .than mere seniority
ment or the public .take notice o f such The mere fact that a person Joined
appointments. This appointment is the court a month or a year earlier
criticised b y a section of the Bar, by than his colleagues does not confer on
a section o f the Judges retired and him the right to be made automatical
resigned judges and b y a section o f ly the Chief Justice. S t a b ilit y has
34t Appointment oj VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (S A K A ) Chief Justice of 342
India (Dis.)
to be decided by the President, The undernourished and who have no
President appoints, b y warrant, on roof over their head and who have
the advice o f the Prime Minister, who no light in their houses and w no
is head of the Government, a person have no clothes to wear and who
as Chief Justice of India. In this case, have no water to drink are looked
the President appointed Mr. Justice after.
Ray as the Chief Justice, on
the advice o f the Prime Minister who For the welfare o f these people, it
is head of the Government. I quite is the duty o f Government to bring
appreciate the feelings of those that forward necessary legislation. When
are superseded. But, human nature a case comes before the Supreme
being what it is, naturally they feel Court for Judicial review, is it not the
that they are hurt. That does not duty o f the Suprme Court Judges to
mean that any principle is violated and apply the principle o f harmonuous
the Constitution is thrown to the constuction and place no hurdles in
winds. the enforcement o f the directive prin
ciples which benet the larger sections
o f the people, instead o f always cling
What is the principle of seniority? ing to the fundamental rights which
Does seniority mean vested interest benefit a few ? The Judge has to dis
in a person. Even the Executive, charge his duty to the society at
when appointment o f the Chief of large. So, the aptitude and attitude
Army Staff is made, appoints a o f the judge is more important. The
junior officer and not necessarily & Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
senior officer. The Chairman of the sets the tone and he should see
U.P.S-C. was not always a senior through the deliberations of the rouit
man. A senior is not automatically that justice is meted out to the
appointed as the Chairman o f the society at large.
U.P.S.C. There are several instances
where seniority is not considered. It is said by a section of the Bar
What is considered is the merit or that the independence o f the judiciary
suitability of the person. Therefore, is undermined because a junior
on the question o f appointment of judge is appointed as Chief Justice.
Chief Justice o f Supreme Court there Under article 124, no judge of *
is nothing for any surprise. The High Court or Supreme Court can be
merit of a judge or suitability of the removed except under clause *.4) by
a
judge alone is being considered for petition made to the President by
the appointment as Chief Justice. A both House of Parliament for proved
judge's ability or merit or the apti misbehaviour or incapacity. A judge
tude or inclination can be seen fi\->n» can continue till 65 years of age and
the judgments. Therefore, the per he does not have to look to the exe
son considered suitable, only is ap cutive for favours or patronage. So,
pointed as Chief Justice, The person the independence o f the judiciary is
appointed has to move with the times. not affected.
He cannot sit in an ivory tower,
unmindful of the changes that are It is said that the confidence o f
taking place in the country. The the people is shattered by appoint
judges are confronted with matter* ment o f a junior judge as Chief Justice.
about fundamental rights versus the The confidence o f the people was
interests of the vast m ajority o f the shattered all these days b y the recent
people which are enshrined m the judgments o f the Supreme Court
Constitution. Therefore, it is theduly starting from the Golaknath’s case in
o f the Government to see that the 1967 w here the judges b y a m ajority
p eop le w ho form the bulk o f the o f 6 to 5 held that fundamental rights
community and w ho are underfed, are inviolable, sacrosanct and trans-
343 Appointment of MAY !, 1(7* CM * Jvittc* of tadl* (Oil.) 344
[Shri Jagannath Rao] The independence of the judiciary is
cendental and cannot be touched even not? shaken and the confidence of the
by Parliament. If one of such judges people is not shaken by this appoint*
is made the Chief Justice of India, the ment. The people have confidence in
confidence of the people will be really the Supreme Court and the Judges
shaken. So, these arguments have no who have taken oath under the
foree. There is no point in the argu Constitution before entering on their
ments put forward by the opposition offices.
parties who held the same view as a W e have to respect the fundamen
section of the Bar and the judgej who
hove resigned. The President is well tal rights of the many and not the
within his right to appoint Mr. fundamental rights o f a cherished
Justice Ray as the Chief Justice, few . In the interests o f a few you
cannot override the interests o f the
I was really surprised and shocked many. The Government have to
to read what Mr. Hegde said in his enforce the directive principles over
press conference yesterday. 1 had due fundamental rights, otherwise, they
respect for him all these days, bu~. it have no right to be in power. W e
is gone since 1 read it this mornuig. have brought forw ard amendments to
His opinions reveal the mind of a the Constitution. Fortunately for us,
politician, not of a judge. He was in because o f the latest judgment, w e
politics earlier and o f course, he is need not bring in another amendment
free to enter politics again and come to the Constitution. The latter part
to Lok Sabha. I was shocked to read o f article 31(c) has been struck down.
his statements. He has said that after If this is the attitude o f the Supreme
his judgment in the election petition Court to what Parliament enacts, then
case, the Prime Minister wanted to the learned Supreme Court judges
oust him. He s ays, Shri Mohan lose the respect of the people.
Kumaramangalam is a communist and
Shri Madhu Limaye said that no
there are fundamental differences
resolution was brought before the
between Mr. Kumaramangalam and
House when the 14th Report ot the
himself. He says that Mr. G okhalc is
Law Commission was accepted The
a pathetic case and he has no ideas,
14th Report relates to reform o f judi
etc. I say that Mr. Hedge is not only
cial administration They ?re in *wo
a pathetic case but a pathological parts. One is amendment of laws to
case: He has lost the chance o f be enforce certain recommendations
com ing Chief Justice and I can undei- Some recommendations do not tcquire
stand his feelings. But it does not
any change in the law The recom
be fit a person of the standing of a mendations about the appointment of
Supreme Court judge till yesterday to
Chief Justice o f Supreme Court and
say these things o f High Courts are those which do
not require any change in the law
Shri Piloo M ody is voicing the and so the Government can im ple
feelings of Mr. Hedge, w ho has des ment them by executive action So,
cribed Shri Gokhale as a pathetic they need not com e befor Parliament
case I can understand his feelings for amendment o f the law.
He has been deprived of the chance
o f becoming the Chief Justice in The other point raised by Shri
June, 1974 So. it is a pathological Madhu Lim aye is about article 60*
case in the case of Mr. Hedge which says that the President shall,
These utterances do not help. He has before entering upon his office, make
come out with venom against the and subscribe in the presence o ' the
Prime Minister, against the G overn C hief Justice o f India or. in his
ment, against the President and so on. absence, the seniormost Judge o f the
345 Appointment of VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (S A K A ) Chief Justice o f 346
India (Dig.)
Supreme Court available, an oath. independent authority to appoint
But that article relates to the adminis judges. Under the Constitution, there
tering o f oath to the President. In is no member o f any independent
the article relating to the appointment body. The executive advises the Pre
o f Chief Justice, namely, article 124, sident and the President appoints
there is no reference to the senior- judges. What is the indepndent
most Judge. Under that article the authority which Mr. Hedge thinks of?
President has wider powers. Article He was a judge himself. He knows
126 speaks o f't h e appointment of an the Constitution. When the tim e
acting Chief Justice. In that case the comes when the Constitution has to
President is bound to select one o f the be amended, not only this article but
Judges. But under article 124 he has so many other articles which are
a wide discretion. There is no bar
found to be obsolete, which need any
or inhibition. Therefore, the Presi amendment, can be considered at a
dent was well-advised by the Prime future date. Let him not question the
Minister to appoint Justice A. N. Ray
validity or propriety of this appoint
as the Chief Justice and the objections ment. I uphold the appointment.
raised, either here or by the bar asso
ciation or by the resigned Judges have The motion says that the situation
no force or validity. created by the appointment o f the
Chief Justice may be taken into con
Doubts and suspicion w ere created sideration. What is the situation?
in the minds o f the people because of The situation is that four vacancies
the suddenness o f the appointment of discuss this? The discussion is poli-
the Chief Justice. In fact, it caught have been caused. Are we going to
them by surprise. But what could discuss this? The discussion is poli
the government d o’ The judgment tically motivated. I oppose the
was delivered on the 24th. The Chief motion.
Justice was retiring on the 25th. On
SHRI A. K. GOPALAN (Palgnat):
that day som ebody had to be appoint
Mr Speaker, Sir, the arpointment of
ed as Chief Justice. So, there was
the Chief Justice o f India supersed
no time to publish the norms etc.
ing three senior Judges has justifiably
which they ore going to apply in roused wide-spread criticism in the
future. It is rather an accidental
country. The Government had not
coincidence. Therefore, while I sup
chosen to come before Parliament and
port the appomment of the Chief
taken it into confidence with cogent
Justice, which might have caused some
reasons before they chose to throw
disappointment to some of the super
away the convention established since
seded Judges and some members of
Independence.
the Opposition, in order to avoid any
confusion 1 would suggest to the I want to make it very clear that
Government that they may come as far as we are concerned, we do
forward with norms which they want not support this Judge or that Judge.
to apply in those cases in future in AN HON. MEMBER: No Judge.
the appointment of the Chief Justice SHRI A K GOPALAN: As far as
to the High Court and the Supreme we arc conccrned, all Judges arc the
Court. That will set at rest any doubt same. Our party has never conccaled
or suspicion in any quarter either in its firm opinion that as between the
Parliament or in Supreme Court or propertied and privileged classes and
outside. That w ill create confidence m the oppressed and exploited clashes,
the minds of the people, judges and
all talk of justice is a myth. NeitheT
the Bar. For future, this at least the Government nor the Supreme
should be done. Court had any uneasiness to deny to
Mr. Hegde also said in the press the most consistent fighters against
conference that there should be an the established order w hatever perso-
347 Appointment of M AY 2, 1973 Chief Justic* of India {Bis.) $48
(Shri A. SC. GopalaaJ Sir, some years ago I had been a

nal freedom was enshrined in the frequent visitor to the Supreme Court
Constitution on the achievement of and the High C o u rt.. . .
freedom. Acts empowering detention
without trial have been on the statute AN HON. MEMBER: As u witness?
book almost without interruption since
Independence although, bexore Inde SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: Not as a
pendence, Congress leaders called such witness, but as an accused.
laws as lawless laws and even the
I know something about Supreme
late Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru once
Court and High Court. My ow n ex*
thundered that a Governm ent which
perience is there.
relies on detention without trial does
not deserve to exist for a single day. As for the Supreme Court, it laid
From the time o f Independence till down one case law when I challenged
today the detention without trial is m 1051 the Preventive Detention Act.
there. A fter following that case law for near
ly 20 years my friend, Mr. Mohan
Kumaramangalam, w ill please hear
Today, after the Supreme Court this it changed it without stating any
struck down Section 17A of the MISA, reasons in the Bank Nationalisation
the Government o f West Bengal, with A ct case m 1970. W hy? W hy was a
the connivance of the Central Govern case law laid down for 20 years and
ment, far from rendering account for why was it changed after 20 years? In
having detained thousands unconsti my case, it was laid down because it
tutionally and illegally, continues to was a question o f personal freedom of
keen them in jail under some pre a man. In the Bank Nationalisation
text or other The hon. Member, Mr. case they changed it because the
N. N. Pandey who spoke from the question of property right of the busi
other side, said that they have res ness people was involved in it. (Inter
pect for the Constitution and respect ruptions) . I am explaining here about
for the court. W here is the respect the court Y ou may agree when I
for the Constitution and the court? come to the conclusion here, but you
W hen the court has struck down Sec may not agree when I come to the last
tion 17-A o f the M ISA and said, conclusion, As far as this is concern
“ release all the people” , they are not ed, I entirely agree that the case law
released. They are being kept in was there for 20 years; that was there
jail. The Advocate-General says, because they wanted co keep me foi
" Give us some time. W e w ill make five years inside the jail. And they
some alternative arrangement to see changed it when I came out of the jail
that they are put inside the ja i l ” after ftve years. In the Bank
Y ou do not have any respect for the Nationalisation case they changed it
Constitution or the court. When the for some other reason; they changed it
because it was not a question of per
court strikes down Section 17-A of
sonal freedom, it was a question o f
the MISA as unconstitutional and ille
property rights.
gal, the Advocate-G eneral say; “G ive
us some time because w e want to
When Shri E.M.S. Namboodiripad
keep them inside the jail."
stated that ‘judges do not function in
the vacuum and their thinking and
You have no respect for the Cons :udgment are bound to be coloured
titution and the court. Whatever you b y the class character*, that simple,
say, w e respect you. But w e want to objective statement was held to be
say, don't do this. Y ou m ay find contempt o f Court and the Supreme
fault with us. W e don’t understand Court exceeded all bounds o f judicial
this. /* propriety— and the present Chief Jus
349 AWWKtment of VAISAKHA 12, 1885 (5 AKA) Chief Justice of 350
India (Dis.)
tice was also one o f them—end said years ago there was a recommenda
that Shri E.M.S. Namboodiripad did tion the Law Commission made. Why
not know Marxism and they asked did you not at least takti thg Parlia
Shri E.M.S. Namboodiripad to learn ment into confidence and tell them*
Marxism. He had only quoted what T h is is the recommendation of the
Marx has said about the class charac Law Commission that seniority must
ter of the court and that statement was not be the criterion. So, v/« are go
held to be contempt of court and in ing to depart from that.’ As Mr. Rao
the judgment they said, ‘W e ask Mr. said, it is not saying that Mr. Hedge
Namboodiripad to learn Marxism b e has been superseded or .Mr. Grover
cause he does not know Marxism'. is superseded. W hy did you not say
before that this is wrong and that
Some o f the Supreme Court ju dg
is correct and w hy did you not follow
ments vartually decided that the exist it? Y ou are saying something and
ing property relations could not be
they are saying something. Y ou say
radically altered by Parliament and Mr. Hegde superseded and Mr.
and assured greater security to big Grover superseded. That is not the
property holders. The Supreme Court, thing. Somehow, for 15 y«ars you
by its judgment on Bank Nationali
have not implemented it and you
sation Act and the Privy Purses Act, have been follow ing seniority. Then
shocked progressive opinion. Its vers-
the Law Commission has recommend
diets went in favour o f the vested
ed something. I wanted to se* the ie -
interests. It showed extreme solici port. It was with my friend, Mr
tude for full compensation to the Limaye. I could not see it. It was
banks which made all talk of said there also that it should be
o f nationalisation meaningless The stabilised. Not on one day you
latest judgm ent also did not fully should come and implement it sud
accept Parliament’s right to bring denly like an atom bomb. So, stabilise
about radical changes in the property it. You have been following seniority
relations. for the last so many years, and to-day
you want to change it. When did you
It w ill be realised that, when the
Court invalidated parliamentary do it? What is the occasion? A
legislation, its effect was generally to judgment was given where the three
protect the monopolists and big pro. Judges went against the Government,
perty holders in the name o f equality and the next day you are doing it
and the fundamental right to hold and you say 'Seniority w ill not do*.
property. Always it has done it in W ill the people in this country b e
•the name of equality and the funda lieve it? Then the Judges com e out
mental right to hold property. and say, *1 gave a judgment agamsi
Those who are talking in the name the Government. That is w hy X am
o f independent role of the Supreme superseded.' The people w ill believe
Court should ponder over these reali it. Mr. Hegde says ‘I gave a verdict
ties. against the Prime Minister in the
election petition and because o f that
However, till now, within the bounds I am superseded’ It is that which the
of these class limitations, there was people w ill believe. It is a question
some hope that the Supreme Court o f how you do it and when you do
w ould protect, to some extent, tho it. What is the occasion you have
citizen against patently arbitrary taken? What is the propriety o f it?
acts o f the Executive. But the pre What are the circuumstances in which
sent appointment has shattered even vou have done it? W hy don't you
that hope, take the Parliament into confidence?
It is futile for the Government to. Why don’t you stabilise it? One &**y
seek a resurrection o f a 19-year old one criterion and other day the Law
recommendation o f the Law Commis Commission's criterion! N obody wiH
sion. I want to ask one thing. 13 believe it. It is certain that even th?
351 Appointment of M AY X 1973 Chief Justice of India (Oifc) 35*
SHRI A. K . GOPALAN: Tha changed, a n u p roa r and panic is rais
Judges o f the Supreme Court must ed in this country. Just 1 was hear
toe the line- o f the executive so that ing the speech o f Comrade AK G
whatever the executive say, they w hich provoked me to ask a question
must be afraid and they must do The question is very simple. H e «aid
what you say. Y ou want to sup that the judges belonged to the pro-*
press the Opposition. When they in perty class. But he never said what
terpret a legislation you do not res the remedy for it was I expected
pect them. Y ou do not respect the he would suggest a remedy Unfortu
con stitu tion of the Supreme Court. nately, he avoided that
When they strike off some legislation, SHRI A. K. GOPALAN (Palghat):
you do not implement it. Y ou by-pass The remedy is that judges should
it and then do something against it not be appointed by the President or
and when they do anything, you the cabinet. They must be appointed
threaten them. That is what is being b y Parliament where, thougH the rul
done. That is the meaning o f it. ing party has got a majority, at least
Don’t think the people o f this country there w ill be a discussion.
are fools. They can understand it. One SHRI V A Y A L A R RA VI: I do not
day you say seniority and suddenly, know how a discussion in Parliament
after this judgment, you say there is w ill change the character o f the judi>
a Law Commission’s recommendation ciary. Unfortunately, he has tried to
that seniority should not be the cri side with the reactionary group. Of
terion, and you supersede the three course, that is the new line of the
Judges who have given a judgment Marxist Communist party. I have n0
against you. You say, ‘W e want objection to it. The w hole allegation
good Judges and progressive Judges.’ in the country today is that, even
A s far as w e are concerned in my case judges and political parties say it, it
they have said that the section, that is politically motivated. I do like tfi
was there, that section is taken away. ask the question who injected politics
That means that they are progressive into the judiciary. If you trace the
now and the Government is reaction w hole history back to 1967 there was
ary. When Sec. 17A is struck off, that a Chief Justice named Subba Rao
means that the Judges are reaction Even during his tenure as Chief Jus
ary and when the Governm ent is not tice he decided to contest the Presi
implementing it, then the Government dential election in the country. I ac
is progressive. W hy this circus o f re cuse Mr. Vajpayee and his party be
actionary and progressive.................. cause they discussed with Subba Rao
(Interruptions) It is all w rong and about his election and they decided
you cannot fool anybody and the way in his presence to contest the election.
it was done, as far as our stand is Can they deny? Many o f the political
concerned, as far as the Supreme parties are a party to it. So, you
Court and its Judges are concerned, injected politics into the judiciary
we have our own opinion. They be end Subba Rao contested against Dr
long to a class. Their judgment will Zakir Hussain. That is the political
help the propertied class. The e x activity that you injected into It.
ploited class will never be benefited. Where is Mr. Subba Rao today? What
But here, in this appointment of Mr. has he been speafking all along? Hu
Justice Ray, what is done is that it has been justifying Golaknath’s cas*
wap done with a motive, with a pu r which has been struck down day b e
pose to threaten even the Judiciary fore yesterday. Then a w ord about
and say, ‘Y ou be very careful. It B. P. Sinha, Let me refer to the book
you no against us at any time, this written b y Setalvad in which he criti
will be the result___ (Interruptions)' cised Mr. Sinha. Mr. Setalvad also
We are opposed to it. says that dem ocracy is in great danger
SHRI V A Y A L A R RA V I (Chirayin- because same Judges have been super
k il): Whenever the status quo is seded. Shri Justice B. P. Sinha deliver*
533 .tippointrnent of VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Chief Justice of
354
India (Dis.)
a ju:lgement in favour of a monopoly Again, what has happened to th,,
house Just befcre retirement and he Fundamental Rights case? It was Mr.
joined mat black-listed monopoly Hegde and his company who were
house as a top man: Here democracy inhuman and cruel on Mr. Justice
is protected because he protected and Beg. When Mr. Justice Bei was in
joined that monopoly house! Where is the hospital, they pressurised Dr
the moral courage of you gentlemen Caroli to give a certificate that Mr.
sitting on the other side to protest Beg was mentally weak to sit an...i
against Mr. Sinha? None of you pro write any serious matter such as the
tested. (Interruptions) � uoi;;ment. For what purpose and for
whom did they do this? With autho
Then we go to Mr. Shah. After- nE rity, I say that Dr. Caroli was pre;
delivered the judgement on bam, surised to give such a certificate. 1s
nationalisation case where is he today? this not politics? Is this not politi
He i s drawing more than Rs. 1 lakh cally motivated? Who motivated all
now. So, who injected politics? Are this politically? Was it Mr. Hegdc:
not the monopoly houses and their Dnd company or was it Government
interest protected every time? Then which got such a certificate from th 0
I come to Mr. Hegde's statement. Mr doctor? It is high time that this kind
Hegde says: "Mr. Gokhale is the of thing i s put an end to. There wa�
greatest danger to the bar and the 2lso a big and heated exchange whicb
bench". He also accused .Mr. Mohan was not allowed to publish that hap
Kumaramangalam as the super Law pened Tb.etween Mr. Palkhivala and
Minister and he has also said that the his company with the judges and bet
Prime Minister is prejudiced against wee:1 the judges, that they wanted to
him. Sir, his opinion has not been avoid Mr. Justice Beg to come and si
formed in a -day. It is an •opinion O'l the Bench and give the judgment.
which he had been keeping in mind This w::is what happened. I also al
for long. He i s admitting the fact tJy lege with r't'sponsibility that there
saying that "his supersession did not was a dinne_· ,t foe house of th,•
take him by surprise, that in a way Chief .Justice, to which he inviterl
he was prepared for it". It means he only seven judges, as though the other
was expecting it. How can we ex six were not judges who could b?
pect justice from a prejudioed man believed. He invited only seven o
s;tting in the court and delivering thelfi. And who el5e was present?
judgement? Can we expect justice There was the leading advocate who
from a prejudiced man? He has argued the fundamental right's case,
made a very unbalanoed statement and leading man' of a monopoi:·
today. You have to check up the house present there. They discu33c.!d
whole history of this man. I heard the !T'atter there and decided. It a
the report that he has been offered a h•ppened at that dinner, I know there
Rajy a Sabha seat from Mysore. So, I was 2 dinrer fo,:- this purpose. So
accuse Mr. S. N. Mishra and hi s party. who iniected politics into this? N'!r
They instigated and injected politics i>:. i-ected nolitics into the judiciarv··
into the iudiciary by offering a seat It. wa s th�se people who were for t]w
in Rajya Sabha to a judge and insti vested interests, Mr. Piloo Mody. tha
gated him to resign. He says he will sole agent of monopolists, Shri Fr::>n'·
fight politically. Against whom, Sir? Antho:i.y, who aqued for the Britic"
So, the Rajya Sabha is better for him. an<'! who was always behind the Bri
and he can come there. and we would tish.
,,,�lcome h1m, there.' So, there is 1:0
rlnubt about who is in politics. It 1s
these political parties sitting on the Then, take the case of Shri M. C.
other side who are injecting politics Chaf?la. He has also become the
in order to protect their vested inter- C'hamnion of these three judges now
s. ."'11....,.,! But when Shri Jawaharlal Nehru was
355 Appointment of MAY 2, 1973 Chief Justice of India (Dis.) 356
[Shri Vayalar Ravi] the Chief Justice among the remain-

ing judges, does it mean that defno-
the Prime Minister, Mr. Chagla was cracy is in peril and that the remain-
j.r epared to supersede Shri Patanjali ing nine judges are subjected to the
Shastri and come to the Supreme pressure of Government?
Court. So, where is the question • of
principle involved? No principle is It has been suggested that there
involved, and there is no morality also has been irregularity in the appoint.
involved here. He agreed to come to merit of judges of the Supreme Court.
the Supreme Court as Chief -Justice B'ut nobody has suggested any method
overriding the seniority of Shri Patan- for the selection of the judges of the
jali Shastri.
o
Is there any principle in Supreme Court. They are only ob-
this? It is only the disgruntled ele- jecting to the supresession and saying
ments who are injecting politics into that three judges have been superse-
the judiciary and making the noise.
ded and, therefore, democracy is in
Again, in my own State of Kerala, peril and democracy is in danger. I
there was a law passed by our Gov- say, Sir, that this is nothing but
ernment to give tenenacy rights to politics.
thousands of tenants. Our Govern-
rr-ent argued the case in the Supreme My hon, friends have tried their
Court, and it happened that they wers best everywhere and they have failed.
w ith the people and not with the They have tried to fight everywhere,
vested interests. But who argued but they have been defeated by the
the case for the vested interests? We people by and large. So, they are
kr.ow who did so. now taking Shri Hegde and company
in a big procession, and wall-posters
Then, there was reference to Shrl are coming up to say that they are
Subba Rso also. We have seen Shri holding a big reception at Lhe Ram-
Subba Rao moving around and can- lila Grounds where even my hon.
vassing for votes. But we know that friend Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee is
all those for whom he canvassed the expected to speak. Sir, is this not
vested interests lost their deposits too, po litics? What do my hon. friends
because the people did not want them, mean by this? Who is ridiculing the
judiciary? It is these people sitting
So far as this question of superses- .opposite who are ridiculing the judi-
sion of Shri Hegde and company is ciary.
concerned, I do not want to say any-
thing personal in regard to him. But
They are making allegations against
I would like to read out just one
the Chief Justice, against the 9 Judges
sentence from his press statement.
who are sitting in the Supreme Court
where he says that democracy is in
today, that they are subjectd tu pres-
peril. He says:
sure. It means that if Mr. Hegde is
"If the test of merit depends on not appointed Chief Justice, it is very
one's submission to the dictates .'Jf bad; if we appoint' him Chief Justice
the Government, then undoubtedly for three years, everything is ail
the superseded judges do not POSS€Ss right. Is that not the meaning of
these qualifications.... I know the this allegation? This is the allegation
record of my colleagues.". they make. They are agitated be-
cause it was Hegde who protected
This means that all the j~s re-
their interests every time. Every time
maining in the Supreme Court are
subjected to the pressure of Govern- he had been doing it
ment and the dictates of Government.
Suppose after three years, Mr. 'Grover We come here to protect the in-
retires and somebody else becomes terests of the people. We are here
357 Appointment of VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAK A) Chief Justice of 35g
India (Die.)
to g iv * « 8 « c tito the w ilt o f thepeople. Only three. Nine are still there, it
We have been elected to this House maans the majority are with the deci
to w ork lor the betterment at the sion o f Government in superseding
people. So this Government derive the "three Judges and appointing Mt.
their authority from the people. Thin Bay as Chief Justice. They are not
Government i s » here to protect resigning. I f they have a moral ob
the interests -of y th e people. * So jection to this, they must have the
we have to make legislation to moral courage to come o u t But none
serv e the interests of the people. o f them was prepared to resign. 1
That is why w « have been mak know it is because they have got the
ing progressive measures. Unfortu moral courage to show that the deci
nately, the Supreme Court had. taken sion taken by Government ' is '•'•the
the stand that they were a super correct decision. The majority of the
Government. They do not derive Judges have taken this stand. I say
authority from the people* They are it is for the betterment of the people,
nominated by the President. We de it is to protect the interests Of the
rive authority as the representatives people, it is in furtherance o f a pro
ol the people from the people for the gressive social society.
welfare of the people. Therefore, the
Supreme Court is not a super govern
SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE (Calcutta
ment. They have no such authority.
North-East)- It is understandable
They cannot challenge Parliament in
that there is something o t a storm
this respect at all.
over the appointment o f the Chief
So we have to work for the better Justice of India superseding three o f
ment o f the peoplt. We must see his colleagues who have resigned in
that the will of the people prevails. chagrin. I feel there should be a
It must always prevail. limit to the indignation whicn some
Sh*"! A K. Gopalan said that the quarters apparently have been able
Supreme Court was chungti.g its to muster over this issue. There
views ev»«rv day Even in i^ a r d to should be in Parliament at least a
th»' Golak Nath case which was decid little effort to go to the root of the
ed by Mr. Justice Sikn and Mr. whole matter.
Justice Shelat also, now they them
selves say it was w ion g So they Apart from press reports of frenzied
have changed their opinion. They conferences held by the three Judges
cannot keep on holding to a cuiMst- w ho have resigned, I get from far
ent opinion away Bangalore and from a mock and
mild old liberal, who I did not even
Shri Madhu Limaye quoted what
remember was alive, Shri P. Kodanda
M*1 Hegde had said He ** id ‘I deli
Rao. a cyriostyled request for parti
vered judgment against the Prime
cipation m a campaign asking the
Minister* But along with him. there whole judiciary and the Bar Councils
w ere also Justice Mathew and Justice m India even to go on strike
Jagmohan Reddy. They also fully protesting against what has happened
agreed to it. Now they say that There must be some method in this
Justice? Mathew and Beg are subject madness, some organisation o f forces
ed to pressure. This is a seIf-<-or.tra- operating somewhere to goad an in
dictory statement. If Justices Mathew offensive old man, w ho retired per
and Reddy had also delivered that haps 25 years or m ore ago, to send
judgm ent against the Prime Minister, us this kind o f circular.
h ow can Mr. Hegde claim 1 did it*?
Reference was made to the question I might also say* that it is good
of Majority.I ask a simple question. that the made of judicial detach
H o w many o f the judges resigned? ment which is paraded as a great
359 Appointment of M AY 2, 1973 Chief Justice of indin (M s.) 360
; .■' v 1 : ; ' a-;...■" 1 - [■x - .■V*.
[Shri SHRI PILOO M OBY: So Jong as.
virtue o t:
off. ,I. |eel s o r e tj U i ^ ^ ^ n ^ t i « ^ SH R I MtJKHEltJE®: ffc n o w
when I ;X$caii. judge?-: op uth r 'r B « * h the? main b w m ttif tke contention here
moralising., with unction, I* ^hpdâ .jur-ihat pow er is bftlng abused. One
very long time ago *®a4 in ■a 4>o£k nMqr. ?4iaappmvie pow#r with a big
by the celebrated' * English ' ‘F , whiehl I certainly dd, ^because
Somerset Maugfiam-r-I am - quoting-— pow ers ftbrtcentrated in the w ay it is
who said:. ; , irr'ttSe hands o f the Government', which
me&ns the Prime Minister primarily
“I have wished that besides the and her crew very, very secondarily.
bunch o f flowers at the Old* Bailey. this power, is a parlous proposition no
His Lordship had a } package - o f doubt. Power has* a tendency to
toilet p%per which' would remind corrupt as everybody knows. Without
him that he was a man like any power, the machine of the State” also
other.” . • cffhnot run and if is the purpose of
Parliament t o see that power Is vested
These judges are men like any others, properly, and that can be only deter
and I might even have a little sym mined by the democratic process
pathy with the three gentlem en. who which has been tried to the extent
have been superseded, but, now about possible in our country, and w e con
the stupendous hullabaloo which has only try to see to it' that power is
been raised orer this incident? That not exploited in the wrong way.
is something which 1 wash at least to
try to probe. In so far as judges are concerned,
we have stated our position in our
One has assumed that the Heavens own election manifesto. It is not a
are falling on account of the super decision which w e have suddenly
session. Supersession not only in the arrived at because of Government's
case o f the judiciary, but in do many difficulty over this supersession busi
other spheres is happening everywhere ness. In our election manifesto*' we
al] the time even at the highest ju d i had asked for prior parliamenta-y ap
cial level. Lawyers from Calcutta— I proval to high judicial appointment?.
am afraid my friend Mr. Ashok Sen is I wish w e can all demand it, Mr.
not here but some others are here— Gopalan has referred to it and «
would recall that only a few years question was asked, and t wish every
ago, Mr. Justice P. N. Mukarjee’s body joins together, even from tVe
claims were disregarded land, - with Congress ranks, though Mr. Vnyylar
the most dismal and drastic results to Ravi did not seem to appreciate the
the detriment of the dignity of the importance, of the suggestion. But
judiciary, another Mr. Justice P. B. we can have.som e sort of parliamen
Mukerjee, was appointed, leading to tary, organisation, not consisting of *hrt
many scandalous occurrences, to which w hole House perhaps, but some wav
I drew the personal attention o f the o f associating Parliament with ap-
Prime Minister and also spoke in r'ointTwr*ntr5 tn high iudicial posts, to
Parliament in the presence o f '" ’ Mr. appointments to Governorships, to
Gokhale. But nothing of course took appointments of Ambassadorships and
place. This kind o f thin^ goes o n lm d that sort of thing. Our friend Mr.
I wish to remind m y friends all ovfcr Limaye, w ho is w orking as a sort o f
the place that supersession is some a non official drain inspector, th*
thing, right or wrong, w hich has been other dav gave us a very wonderful
going on all the time. But the hulla- report about the misdeed o f a 'p a rti
balod started on this particular isafcse. cular Governor; whb fcouid not
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occasion, e cause tha t overnor the jui cial mus e teersca l
ling onthe a r
forme r ove rnoro f u jarat ha een an the .pul i c tp fight the to tal
ita
enounce in the s t
rongest terms y rian t ren s. They have een shown
uie h ighes
tjui ciary in the lan,in the oo r poli tely
. ut the con u ct
rega r ,to the se appo intmen ts
,- we espe c
ia l
ly o f x -Justice Sh ri Heg e
coul have some in o f a pa r
lia the se lfp rocla ime c rusa e r who ha s
men tary apparatus, >To this ove rn sa i e wou l no t re
stt illthe a ttle
men t shoul t ry to-give effe
c t
; i s,ip »n sugge sts that pe rhaps they
ut the rea l i^ su e to ay u *fa ra s really ese rve the or er -ofthe oo t.
tne mt loni s con ce rne,i s no t. sem - The p roveria l w is om o f eve ry peo
outy an su cce ssion . The v i
tali ssue ple mthe wo rl ca l
le thelaw ana ss.
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tice
e
tea t,the mea sure s,o f socio -econom ic Oliver Wen e ll Ho lmesly ing ea m
ame lio ra t
ion. From thef irst amen the Un ite S tates.
men to f 1951 to the 2th an 25 th
amen men tso fla st yea r
,i t ha s een Mr Ju s
tice O l
ive r Wen e l
l Ho lme s
me same s tory. The a t
t le h su« e - ha g iven u sthe. c
lassicsay ing: The
cune mo re a cute an se rious s in ce Ina rt
iculate ma jorp rem iseo fju gesin
1H(J9 when the ove rnmen t na tiona l the ou rgeoisset upi stoappo inthim
ist ans , ao li she privy pu rse s Ch ief Justiceforth reeinv iolai l
ity ot
an e ci e to ta e ove r some o f the proper ty Tha t exac tly i s ou tmo e
uitas o f monopo ly cap ital
. The ov in the wo r
l o f to ay , ou tmo e in
ernmen t i no t move a ss trong ly i . s Inia wh ich it sho tll ethe ta s o f
il ough tto have one ont l\ a
to ccasion th is ove rnmen t to try to lea an
to p reven t the jui c
iary o ing the mou l We have seen how a fter a
sor to f te r r
ile amage to the eco in o fa m igh ty sm i r on h is face
nomy o fthiscoun t ry an tothe mo ra l when the o la na th ca se wa s over
spi rito f our peop le when i t cou l an p ropitious c irturostan ce s we re
top the jui ciary h in e r
ing an ava i
lale , thefo rme r Ch ie f Jus tice
na tiona li
sation y pu tting, I o no t Mr Su a Rao Sh e hisjui cial
qu ite remem e r how many mo re c loa in a hu rryto onthe ro es o f
ciores in tothe po ce tso f an mag the P resi ent I t wa salongte rm* lan
na tes an then t ry ing to - .top the wh ich fortuna te ly wen t away on ac
coun to f peop le e com ing ra the rcau
taing ove ro f the p rivy pu rses an
fll tha s
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t po in
la na
to ft ime
th ju gmen
. Fo rn
t ha
ine
s
\ vefoun thejui ciary pe rform ing a
een allowe to ho l p rog re s
s.I ts e
ce rta in ro le. When the jui c
iary i t
la te an ha lf-hea rte s triing own
se lff igh ts a po l itical a t t
le,a si ti s
ha sl i
ttle valueto ayin v iew o f the
oingto ay ,intheshape o f theth ree
nu ll
ifi
ca t
ion y a ma jo r
ity o fthe pre
ju ges an the ir campa ign a ssistan ts
sen t Sup reme Cou rt en ch o f Ar ti
j
-i e fence o f ve ste in tere s
t s,i f a
cle 31 (c
)o f ou r Con st
i tution.
' eg inn ingi s ma e a tlongla stto ea se
ou t the rea c
tiona ry o ccupan t* o f the
T^n ch .i ti s to tha t
' ev ten t a goo
hin'? Tha ti s why we suppo rt the 1 h
rs.
ove rnmen t'sa ction . I ti sthe eg in*
of a goo th ing, a very m ino r, The alacrity with wh ich the Cour
ts
v^ ry sma ll
, ve ry pre liminary s tep in a mit wr it pet
itions aga inst overn
or er to wee thejui ciary o f tho se m
ent: mea ruresofta e -over,the way
elemen ts wh ich s tan i ttthe way o f ishone s
t emp loye rs a
ret reate len
i
soc io -econom i c a van ce. We have ently for attacing the wor ers an
363 A ppoto tm n t a t MAY*, lOTI C hU f ^
■ [Shri H, S ., M & r t o ] ' inference', but the song and dance he
•1* give® back fa e t » i« 4n tplt* o f r ^ ^ .about^hte e*fc from dfftefcis a
disgjracûl, i»m m entary on judicial
proved fraud and miwiemeanaur o f
b e h a v io u r.. in th* Rajya Sabha
different descriptions, the w ay their
dishonesty is sugarcoated when their someone from m y party had said tha
he should not be Chief Justice oi
cases are pleaded by black nioriey-
India,~*how right he was. Somebody
grabbing and eminent "jurists--«©me
areroccasionally found even in this gave me—-I do not myself know him
H ouser-all these vividly show that at because I am sitting here and I got
this note from him— the bio-data of
last class vpolicies are being cleverly
quoted in velvet legal phrases and Mr. ex-Justice Hegde, from the Rajya
are being assisted by the -judicial Sabha's Who is Who. £ do not know
him, particularly, though I know him
process as is administered in our
country to-day. - b y reputation that he' was, on his
bwn description, a Secretary o f the
I find here the ex-C h ief Justice, Landholders’ Association, a Director
Mr Sikri saying that - .the appoint of several joint-stock companies and
ment is ‘political’. Wasn't-the Chief a Chairman of the Board of Direc
Justice M r. Sikri's own judgment tors in 1947. This is from the Rajya
striking dow n Article 31 (c ) ‘political’? Sabha’s Who is Who. Here is a man
Wasn't the Goiaknath’g case decision who comes forw ard and says that he
‘political’ when Parliament had to is fighting for the principle of de
take a very serious note o f it? We mocracy. He is a paragon of excel
could not do so because w e were not lence in so far as championship of
sure o f the reactions of the G overn democracy is concerned. I grant Shri
ment. Was this only a slight and Hegde the right to be angry—-but
unavoidable change of front which again there are limits— his hypocri
was being practised by the Supreme tical politeness towards the new Chief
Court Bench? Was not the Chief Justice brok^ down as he told the
Justice, Mr. Sikri, by meeting some of press conference that the Prime
his colleagues separately from the Minister chose him because she want
rest, playing politics o f a sort which, ed someone ‘subservient*. He used
1 should say, for a judge of his posi the word ‘subservient’ to be exact. He
tion, was a dastardly proposition? acquired this hypocritical politeness t o
Didn’t he, in issuing, orders, which perfection,’ perhaps, when lie was
four o f his colleagues have refused functioning on the Bench. I am not
to sign,—rtightiy, according to a person concerned with personalities but with
so devotedly a seeker o f juristic prin principles, Even so, I must hdy one
ciple as Shri Seervai, Advocate Gene thing, because the name o f Chief
ral o f Bombay High Court— show a Justice A jit Nath Ray has been m en
peculiar variety o f the most nefarious tioned very often. , He and l have
politics? Mr. Justice Hegde, till the known each other nearly all our cons
other day perched on a judge’s sup cious lives. Y o u may laugh at it. He
posedly olympian height, hitting the is a conservative by temper, a liberal
headlines, howled like hell at press by training and a man of decent in-
conferences and places. I suppose stincts-—the law should be better
that is the prolegomena for entry into known and better talked abo it by
public life. If that is so, he is w el other people; the redeeming feature
com e to do so. about him is his predilection for
dignity and grace and a sense of
It may be that the Prime Minister judicial attachment, on account o f
might have felt some personal pique w hich I can awear before anybody
against Mr, Justice Hegde w h o says that he is the type of person who
m at she based it on ‘information and would not go and wait upon people
363 Appointment of VA 1SAKHA 12, 1985 (SAK A) Chief Justice of (6
tad * (0i«.)
In high places, w ho would not even make sense o f socio-econom ic changes
g o «n u meet big people however high under the Constitution.” I am glad
ly placed they may be, let alone Mr. Vayaiar Ravi said it. Mr. Sec^vai,
kowtowing to them. He is a man than ,whom there is no better lawyer,
whose legal qualifications are a ques no deeper scholar in law in this
tion to be decided by other people if country, quoted that I*atin saying
they want to discuss it; 1 am not in which everybody knows and which
terested in that sort of thing. But you 'and I had to learn once upon
bore is a man about w hom the accusa a time— talus popuii supremo, lex—
tion o f subservience is completely the w elfare o f the people is the
wrong. He stands on dignity some supreme law. Go-ahead on the basis
times in an almost laughably exag of that and tell thete people who are
gerated fashion. He w ould keep away now shouting in unison on the side
and w ill not go and see the Prime of the three superseded judges on
Minister unless it is for some reason account df certain politico-economic
absolutely incumbent even fo r a man motives that Abraham Lincoln in his
o f a.Suprenfyp Court Judge's stature. wisdom has said that the people have
This is the man w hom the HegUes o f a contingent right o f revolution and
creation try to malign, whom in a when they cannot change the Consti
moment of madness perhaps my long tution by constitutional means, they
time friend Shri Frank Anthony, w ho have the revolutionary right to sub
had gone berserk the other day — vert it. Now you have to make sure
unfortunately he is not here today— that your Constitution works. That is
described in m y presence as a com why in bourgeoise America, when the
munist stooge, a silly and senseless N ew Deal came in the early 30s.
thing to say. As I said, he is a con President Roosevelt made it very
servative in temper, a liberal by train clear, openly and publicly, that the
ing, a man w ho is already in the Supreme Court Judges would not be
Supreme Court and he is appointed as allowed to monkey with the changes
Chief Justice— a man who has dignity which he had in view in order to
and grace about him and w ho has got secure a new life for his people When
judicial detachment— he was described that statement was made, then the
by Mr. Anthony here and by Mr. Supreme Court of the United States
Hegde outside as a communist nomi fell in line because they knew that w i'h
nee. If X am going to appoint any the support of the people behind him
body let alone as Chief Justice, even and with the desire o f doing some
as a judge, I would not appoint Shri thing great and big for the sake o f
A jit Nath Kay on the basis of his the people, President Roosevelt had
communist affiliation. On the con given them a warning which they do
trary, I know he is absolutely allergic not dare circumvent.
to any kind o f politics, let alone
radical or revolutionary politics of the
sort that the communists and other Tell our judges and everybody, tell
peope like them profess. the lawyers who are thinking of go
ing on a strike—w e know h ow far
Mr. Madhu Limaye is entitled to they can go— tell them it is not pos
make diatribes against Government, sible, nor desirable, nor a duty for
Whatever happens, he attacks the them if only they think a little morfc
Prim e Minister, the Nehru name and seriously than they are accustomed
everything. He is entitled to do that to. and they should not do that sort,
sort o f thing; I do not mind. But in of job which they are doing at this
SO "far as the supersession is concern moment.
ed, I say to the Government, “ Better
la te than never. G o ahead and re I f this country, therefore), has to
shape the judiciary if you want to g o ahead let us make sure that the
3«7 Appointmnt of MAY a, 1«73 CMtf Juttiw'of Indl» ( W ) j6S
[Shri H. N. JdukM-jee] ernment's activity, here & an occasion

attempts, judicial* and other, to scuttle when otf account o f looting iittile tri-
land reform s legislation, like the m i issues w e should not forget our
K e m a Act, or take-over o f foreign m ooring and w e should do our duty as
and native monopolies are successful. Members o f the Parliament o f India.
V/e should not kotow 10 a principle
The three judicial resignations and wnich has been linked up with the
the campaign around them must not right to property. And that is w hy 1
be allowed to hide the design, the say that even though we have many a
campaign the danger that is still there, grouse against the Government, many
•The resignation was not in defence a contention to carry on, on this
someone’s seniority rights’/ Vfhieh issue they lmve done nothing so
rievfer 'existed, wRich was never there particularly wrong. The supersession
at all, but they are in defence of men o f three people is a very ordinary
of property, not in defence of the matter compared to so many other
overwhelming majority of our people things which havfc 'happened before.
who have no property at all. Let It is time that Government continue
Parliament re-enact article 31C with this policy. This**fc only the first
suitable built-in safeguards «agamst step, not the last step, a very small
the judicial intervention of another step, a" prelim inary step to make sore
sort so that they, cannot be impugned that the socio-econom ic reconstruc
and let this elected Parliament be tion of our country is not going to
enabled, if that is j^ssible, to super be interrupted or upset b y judicial
vise how our country should be ad pronouncements.
ministered. Let not the wise men of
the Bench, wise as they* arg m the
lore of the law, let not those wise THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND
men o f the Bench, m Delhi or else MINES (SHRI S. MOHAN K U M ARA-
where arrogate to themselves the M A N G A L A M ): Mr. Speaker, Sir,
power which vests in the representa
perhaps the debate has been a trifle
tives of the people in the sovereign flat, certainly not reflecting the noise
Parliament. That is the principle and the manner in which a cairpaign
which is at stake, and that is the has been sought to be built up against
principle for which the fight has to the Government on this question dur
be conducted, not the footling little ing the last week. But while trying
references irrelevant to the basic to deal with these matters, I shall
issues regarding the supersession of try to do it in terms of the funda
X , Y or Z for whom we might have mentals. I do not think this is *
personal sympathies.
trifling matter. It is a matter o f
Look into the basic things and find very great importance, a matter which
out what ought to bo done in the has, naturally, roused the interest o f
condition o f this country. Do not hundreds of thousands of people and,
leave it to the judiciary, which has particularly, o f members of the pro
a record o f always being on the re fession to which I have the privilege
actionary sid e -----(interruptions) to belong.
I have m y grouse against the G ov
ernment and on many occasions 1 I do not' think there is any doubt
have expressed m y views on the way on the question o f power. I do not
in which the concentrated powers ap think anybody w ho reads the Consti
pear to be exercised from time to tution as it should be read in terms
time. Even though T am ready and o f the words which are used can
willin ; to join hands with w hoever doubt article 124 which vests the
brings up a genuine reason for r>Qwer to - appoint Judges o f the
real dissatisfaction against the G ov Supreme Court, including the Chief
.3 * 9 'Avpoiftttwnt of VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Chief Justice of 37o
India (Dis.)
Justice, in the President, advised by ultimately, reaches the floor of the
the Council o f Ministers, as has been Chief Justice? I do not think that we
done in a number of cases. I do not can answer this question if we do not
propose to go into that now. 1 do not ta*e into consideration the back
think it is necessary to do that. ground in which this appointment was
There is nothing about seniority, no made.
thing about particular considerations
which should guide the Government Let us not forget the last six years
in making the recommendation to the of background Oj. what can only be
President. Only there is the quali described as a confrontation between
fication that he must have been a Parliament and the Government on
Judge o f the High Court for the last the one hafld and the court on the
5 years and an advocate for the last other. I do not think we should for
10 years or, in the opinion of the get that fact. Some hon. Members may
President, a distinguished jurist. feel that the court was right and we
Therefore^ there is no objective test were wrong. That is not the point.
or means to guide anybody as to The point is that there has been an
how exactly a decision is to be arriv atmosphere of confrontation. There
has been an atmosphere in which the
ed at regarding how the Chief Justice
court looked at things in one way and
is> to be appointed.
w c looked in another way. Let us
There is no duty laid upon the not forget that ever since the Golak-
Government or the President to con nath case judgment was delivered, we
sult the Chief Justice on that parti have had a difficult period. It wa«, for
cular appointment, namely, the ap the first time that in the Golaknath
pointment of his successor. I think, case the certainty with which all of us
w e should take it as such and I do looked at article 368, interpreted as it
not think that is really an issue had been done on two previous oc
casions. first by the unanimous deci
today.
sions o f the Supreme Court in the
What is really the issue? It is: Shankari Prasad case and then by
Why is it that we have departed here the majority judgment in the Sajan
fu m the practice of appointing the Sing case, was turned into uncertain
senior most puisne Judge of the Court ty.
as the Chief Justice, a practice which
by and large we have followed for There was a certainty that Parlia
the last 23 years? The only exception ment could amend each and every
was that of Justice Imam— that is for part of the Constitution, including
other reasons. Fundamental Rights. It stood the
test o f time for 17 years. When the
We have been charged with raping
democracy, destroying the indpen- Golaknath case was decided, by a
narrow majority of 7:6, as it were,
dence of the judiciary so many other
the whole trend was reversed and we
adjectives have been used, so many
were put into a climate of uncertain
hyperboles have been wasted in the
ty. Apart from reversing the judg
last one week. I do not think it is
ment and challenging the sovereignty
necessary for me to comment on that.
of Parliament, we were put into a
Let us go to the crux of it. Is senio
climate of uncertainty. We did not
rity a proper principle for us to ob
serve? Is that the way in which we know what would happen n ext
should arrive at a Droper conclusion
as to w ho is the most suitable person Then came the Bank Nationalisa
to be appointed? Are these the only tion Act. So far as the politics and
considerations? What about the acci economics of that decision of the
dent. as it were, of the appointment Government was concerned, it was
o f a particular person on a particular historic and it was welcomed through
date in the Supreme Court so that he out the length and breadth o f the
- crawls up the ladder of seniority and, country. In framing the enactment,
371 Appo
intmen
tof MAY1
,1171 Ch
ieff
iut
teta
ffnd
t*(P
ta.
)gj
f.
[S
hri8
.'&6h
lHiKuma
rmmnga1am
] af thejudgmen tso f the Cou rt
and se cond ly
,fna jor dec isionsof the
the Gove rnmen t, andla ter on Pa rlia Governmen t and o f Pa r
liamen tin re
men t in approv ing the ena c
tmen t, lation to ma jore conom i c ma tters be*
proceededonthe bas iso fthe de c
ision ing se t as ide by the Cour t one a fter
of the Sup reme Cou rti tse lf in the the o the r. Wasi t*no tr ightfor us
Shan t
ilal Manga ldas ca se, no tstray to take these in to cons ide ration?
ing elsewhe re
, no t going onthe ba sis Wa si t no^t ight* for u stoth inkin
of our own idea s, buttak ingtheiaw te rms o f a more s table re lationship
asi t s tood, a s in terpre ted by the between the cour t and our selves? Is
Sup reme Ceur t
. Wha td id the Sup . it no t good tha t we shou ld have as
reme Cou r t do ? I t dis t
ingu ished— Chie f Jus t i
ce o f Ind ia a man who*
tha ti s the u sual way when a judge wil
l be ab leto he lpto pu t an endto
doe s not wan tto say tha tthe d is th is per iod of con fron ta
t ion, a person
agrees w ith the de c
ision— the Shan ti- who w ill be ab le to en su re stabil
ity,
,
lal Manga ldas case; in es sence i t ce rtain ty abou t the s ta
te o fthelaw ,.,
reversedi t and s truck down the Bank a pe rson who wou ld be ab leto g ive a
Nationali
sa tion Ac t
. ce rtain con t
inui ty
, a ce r tain pe rma
nen ce, tothe app roach made by the
So, we , aga inin a dec i
le way ,fo l Cou rtto theimpo rtan tp roblems tha t
lowed in the foo tsteps of thejudge s, come be forei t?
reframed the Bank Na t
iona lisation
Acttak ingin to a c
coun tthe new v iew ,
asi t we re
,o f the Sup reme Cour t 1 Il is
tened w ith in terest to the
think,i t cos t the coun try qu ite a spe cch of my f riend, Sh r
i A. K . Go -
numbe r O fc ro res mo re
. palan ;i t had a ce r
tain d ichotomy ,
ontheone handsov igorousJna t
tack
ingthe Sup reme Cou rt MrI tsa tt
itude
Then came the orde ro f the Gov
in de fence of prope rty and on the
ernmen t can ce l
ling the re cogni t
ion o f
othe r hand so weakinthe end when
princes. -The re aga in we p ro ceeded
en t
irely on the ba s
is o f an ex isting i t came to d raw the con clusion re
ga rding whyi t wastha tthe Sup reme1
decision o f the Cou rt In U sman A li’
s
Cou rtd id take th i
sa tti
tude o f being
case whe re the Cou rt had he ld tha t
aga inst my good f riend in 1 951 when
re cogn i
tion and gran to f privy pu rses
he came up a sk
ingforl iberty and a t
wa s a po l
iticala ct and was no t sub
the same t ime in reve rsing the v iew
jec t to jud icia l review. On ce mo re,
ul t
ima tely when meno f prope rty wen t
the Cou rt d istinguished U sman A ll's
inthe Bank Na tionalisation ca se and
ca se and s truck down the Gove rnmen t
a sked for the a id o f the Sup reme
orde r
. And tha ti s wha t
,u lt
ima tely,
Cou r t
. Bu t I wan t to say one thm^
sen tu s back to the po lls and the
righ ta t the beg
inn ing.
coun t rysen tu s backto pa ssthe 24 th,
25th and 26 th Amendmen ts
. Th isi s
the background , th
isi sthe h istory. When we try to th ink wha t consi
de ration should move u sin appo int
ing
Therefore,(Ee expe r
ienceinthela st a pe rsontothe h igh andexa lted of
fice
six years has been an un fortunate ofthe Ch ief Justiceo fInd ia.I th ink,
one in the se six year s we have had we have to take in to con siderat
ion—
this conf
lict throughou tstep by s tep* and weshou ld notrun awayf romtha t
in wh ich there aretwo a spect
s wh ich o rd inary peop le, he i s some thing
we have to, bear in m ind; one, the l i
fe , h i
s po li
tics—no t the pa rty to
uncer
tainty wh i
ch wasin troducedin to wh ich he be longs bu t wha ti tistha t
the very interpretat
ion o f the Con s
ti makesthe man— ,through wh ichspe c

tut
ion, sothat we d id not know whe ta cles he looks a t the p roblems o f
thertomorrow some thing else we did Ind ia. Tolook up cn ajudge as some
would or would no t beset asideeven th ing above the c rowd , far away— to
where weproceededonthevery think tha t heis no tlike u s, we ate
373 Appointment of VAISAKHA 11 1899 (SAK A) Chief Justice of 374
India (D is.)-
ordlnary people, he is something Reynolds, Justice Butler, Justice Su
abo$eirta tt*e olympian heights he therland and Justice Van Devanter
wanders, guided purely by the shin continuously and consistantly, without
ing ligtyt of rfason and ncthing else— a single deviation, held against the
I think* that .has no relationship to 'Nt&ty Deal legislation of President
reality. And it ,is not 1 alone who Roosevelt and three Judges, equally
thinks so. There are many others, and eminent—some consider them more
I quote now fr<$p ope q.L the most bril eminent— Justice Cardozo, Justice
liant jurists • who sat on the Bench Brandeis and Justice Stone continuom*-
of the United States Supreme Court, ly held that the New Deal legislation
Benjamin Cardozo, who put the mat was valid, was right and proper ana
ter in these words: tw o Judges vacillated— Chief Justice
“There is in each of us a stream Hughes and Justice Roberts. A com
of tendency, whether ycu choose to mentator o f those days described it
call :it - philosophy or not, which this way:
gives coherence and direction to
"The basic ceavage between jud>
thought and action..
cial oligarchy and popular powe
“ ----- Judges cannot escape that could no longer be concealed or ?ir
current any more than mortals. All cumvented. In one shcrt term tfat
their lives, forces which they do net Court had woven a tight constitu
recognise and cannot name, have tional web to bind political power
been tugging at them— inherited ins al all levels----- By the spring of
tincts, traditional beliefs, acquired 1936 it looked as if the Court had
conventions; and the resultant is an wrecked the New Deal on the shoals
outlook on life, a conception of so and rocks o f unconstitutionally.^”
cial needs, a sense in Jame's phrase Now, what moved the learned Judges
o f ‘th e , total push and pressure of — 4 continuously and consistently to
the cosmos’, which, when reasons vote in favour of the New Deal and :
are nicely balanced, must determine equally consistently to vote in favour
where choice sh?ll fall.” of the New Deal? All the seven were
S j also, our own Chief Justice, a he nest men. None of them had been
former Chief Justice, Chief Justice Pa- sub-servient to the executive. Would
tanjah Shastri said on one oc'asion- anybody describe Justice Cardozo as
subservient? Would anybody describe
“ I t is inevitable that the Social Justice Brandeis or Jusuce Stone as
philosophy and the scale o f values sub-servient? Anybody wh ^
of the Judges participating m the knows the law and w tu
decision should play an important knows the history of <h
part". law and who knows the history ct the
judiciary «n the United States wouici
So you cannot run away from the not say that. On the one side you hav*-
fact that the way in which the Judges four Judges who were very conserva
look at a matter, their philosophy and tive, and you know their approach t<
outlook, do determine the decision that
life, it was a division in the mmd*
th ey take. It would be fochsh on our
of the Judges, not a division as it weri
part to ignore it because the stress, m terms of their being paid to do th^-
the strain and the heat of controversy or influenced to do this. It is their
in our country over the resignation of own mind, how they looked at things
these three Judges seems sometimes to in the United States. The conserva
blind our vision. , tives who believed in going forward
Let us go back 36 years, to 1935. if at all they believed in going for
1936 and 193? in the United State*. ward, honestly and sincerely were con
The United States Supreme Court con vinced that Roosevelt’s radical prog
sisted o f nine Pudges. Now, it is so ramme spelt disaster for the United
’ jpecuM^ in the United State* In thoee Slates and w ere convinced that they
days thAi tour Judges, Justice M. C. were the final guardians o f the demo*
375 Appointment of M AY 2, 1073 Chief Justice of India (Dis.) 376
[Shri S. Mohan Kumarmangalam] proper appointee? How do you decide

cratic order just like Justice Hegde w h a t is his opiortiorifc * * re ? What is
who spoke yesterday, the same words the basis of it?*’ He said; MWe cannot
you can find in some of those judg ask what he will do and if he should
ments there. On the other side, the answer us w e should despite him for
liberals. Justice Holland Stone and it. Therefore, we must take a 'man
others continuously said that it was whose opinions are known'’. A n d when
for the political party in power to Lincoln -advised people to take a man
decide what the policy was and they whose opinions are known, he meant
showed a sympathy for the New Deal how he expressed himself, how he
looks at life, hew he '-Jobks a t the im
legislation that brought America out
of the crisis and collapse of the Stock ponderables— the clash betweefi the
Exchange in 1929-30 where millions directive principles on the qne hand
were unemployed and where millions and fundamental rights on the'lather,
were asking for bread, so on and so w h eth e^ on e .should give greater
forth. weight to the directive .principles or
greater weight to the fundamental
I do not want to go into details, but rights. Read the 1000 pages judge
what I want to emphasize is only this ment of ‘the Supreme Court that has
that the outlook oi a Judge does de recently been delivered and all c f us
termine particularly in the highest will know the opinions of each one
court o f the land where his vote will o f these judges. The six jtfdges who
fall. It is p o t ’ that it is something have upheld the 24th, 25th and 26th
abstract, something separate. He is amendments, each orte of them, puts
right there in the controversy and, directive principles a little higher,
when the controversy'is going on. he is fundamental rights a little lower;
influenced by what happens in the the due rights o f a society 'a little
country just like anybody else. higher and the rights of an indivi
dual a little lower. Then you go to
I took the House back to the Roose- the other six who have, on the con
valt period only to underline the fact trary, said that they are the basic es
there is no such peculiar animal in sential futures of the Constitution
the world as a non-political judge— a which should not be violated; funda
judge who has no opinion. Every man mental rights are sacrosanct things
has opinions. He may be exteremely which must be protected must be
fanatical as Mr. Hegde or he may be protected from the evil hand cf the
just normal as possibly Justice Gro executive and everything must be
ver. I do not want to go into it. One clone to implement the directive prin
can analyse them if one goes into ciples. You can see the philosophy, the
details. It is not necessary. Then outlook. Certainly, we as a govern
hon. Members may ask how is one ment have a duty to take the philoso
to judge what the opinions of a judge p h y and cutlook of the judge in com
are, what his outlook is, what his phi ing to the conclusion whether he
losophy is? So, I thought that if I should or he should not lead the
answered myself hen. Members on the Supreme Court at this time. It is our
other side would find it difficult to duty in the Government honestly and
accept it, and so I looked around and fairly to come to thfc conclusion whe
found that the great apostle of the ther a particular person is fit to be
democratic way of life -e v e n hon. appointed the Chief Justice of the
Members on the other side will ac Court because o f his tfutlook,'because
cept him as such— Abraham Lincoln of his philosophy as expressed in his
had given an answer to this. He expressed opinions, whether he Is a
-'ad appointed his Secretary to the more suitably or a more competent
Treasury, Chase, as Chief Justice of judge. This is our prerogative as a
the United States, and he was asked: Government and I say the Constitu
“ how did you decide that Chase is a tion has entrusted that to us. Undeub-
377 Appointment of VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Chief Justice of 378
India (Dis.)
tedly, the bon. Members opposite if cratic system as exists in Canada, a
they corap-^rpf i}«*e aatfît here may democratic At ttcists in the
disagree with us. They have every United States, a democratic system as
right to do that N o doubt, what 1 exist* in Australia. I think even ac
think is gpqriîn a-particul^r judge in cording to hon. Members on the other
his outlook, Mr. Jjpiloo Mody may o p t side w ho are so vociferous or so ex
think is good., WeU, we are entitled to cited over the whole matter, these are
differ. In a sgnae superseding a person countries where the -democratic sys
does not involve any rejection on tem does exist. 'What is the position
him bqpftiwe it is only .thrpugh my m those countries’ W hy do we not
spectacles that he,:h$» been judged examine it honestly and fairly? Let
and the gentleman who has been su me give you these few figures.
perseded may well say that he does
net recognise those spectacles. It is
In America, 26 judges were appoin
upto him it he wants tc*,tak^ a position
ted to the Supreme Court between
like that. What I want to say is that
193(3 an 1971. 22 o f these 26 belongsd
a duty is laid upon the Government
to the party o f the President in power,
that not merely must we take into
whether he be Republican or De
consideration judicial integrity wbicn
mocrat, that is to say, were members
we do. not merely the legal know
and prominent members of that party.
ledge and skill which we do, but also
One of the most famous judges of the
the philosophy and outlook of the
United States Supreme Court recent
judge We are denounced for warn
ly, Chief Justice Warren was the
ing committed judges as though we
vice-Presidential candidate of the Re
want the judges to commit themselves.
publican party in 1948, and m 1952
We do not want any committed judges
one of most active campaigners for
No judge has to commit himself. But
Gen Dwight Eisenhower when he was
we do want judges who are able to
elected President, and in 1953 sat on
understand what is happening m our
the court as Chief Justice and indeed
country; the wind o f change that is
earned a very high reputation a«
going across our ccuntry, who is able
Chief Ju&tice in defence particularly
to recognise that Parliament is sovere
of the rights o f the Negroes on tne
ign. that Parliament s powers in
one hand and the rights o f the in
roption to the future are sovereign
dividual on the other Justice W il
powers Yes. we do sa y that.
liam Dougles. who sat for 40 years on
Those who are able to see that, those
the Bench of the Supreme Court theie
who are able to give that importance
was one of the strongest supporters of
to those areas of the Consttution
Roosevelt in 1933, 1934 and 1935, aft?r
which pccord’. nc to us are decisive for
w hi;h he was appointed to tne
taking our cuuntry forward, such are
Supreme Court
the judges, we believe, who can effec
tively work and belp us in the This is the way in which it is sum
Supreme Court This is how w e look med up m a book. I would not go
at it into it further hut I would merely
quote* this:
I do not want to efo into too rrmnv
details, but some facts are necessary “ The reasons w hy Presidents
to bs put before this House. Is it the hove chosen particular men for the
hallmark of a democratic system that Supreme Court vary. Ideology has-
a judge who sits on the Bench o f a often played an important role in
court must be non-political ar>d must determining the nominee, though
have nothing to do with politics? Is often other factors appear to have
that tfie hallmark o f a dem ocrats been just as decisive. Politi
system? I use the words ‘democratic cal rewards, personal friendship,
system* in the sense in which it party service, even prior ju di
exists in the United Kingdom, a demo cial experience have* been m ajor
379 Ap|KIVMWIp9|| « f 1 MA.Y 3 , 1WS C hkf Justice 0/ India (Dto.j 380
IShri* & M ohan KumaramangaianQ So, it J* dolm a** antt no Iess.

* «
o **
justifications that Presidents have
made lor iheir Supreme fcourt W hat about Australia? For the
selections from among the members last eevanty yearsr~I think the aame
o f tneir ow n political party.". gentleman m rttoxim as C h ief Justice
n o * state* 19flS~«even 'C h ief Justices
We also did it only in one case, and have been appointed. Out o f them,
w e appointed one on this fid e o f the tw o w ere members o f the House o f
House, a Member o f the Congress Representatives, that is, Parliament
pirty, and w e plead guilty for that; and also Commonwealth Minister*
once, we appointed a Member of Par when they # * r e appointed. One4*was
liament as judge o f the Supreme a member o f the House of Represen
Court, no less a person that Shri tatives and Minister before appoint
S«idanandan Hedge himself. ment, though later he was promoted
Chief Justice. Still another tw o were
Obviously, therefore, at least m the members o f the legislature before they
United States, politics does play an became Chief Justices. Out o f these,
important part in the selection o f one was a Minister. SO I think we
judges to the Supreme Court. Now, cannot very w ell say there was a sharp
let us leave America and let us go, let dividing line in Australia between
us say, to the United Kingdom, the politics and the Bench.
home o f dem ocracy or the birthplace
o f the Anglo-Saxon judicial system Canada 44 judicial appointments
What do they do there’ In his book between 1M0 and I960 to State High
The Machiner of Justice m England, Courts, that is provincial Courts, and
Mr Jackson writes— this is a well the Supreme Court o f Canada. 23
known and authoritative book on had known political views 22 had
English Justice— elected political positions, many of
them of provincial Cabinets Five heH
“The best post o f all, that of the major political positions in this period
Lord Chief Justice is virtually a re form er federal Cabinet Ministers, that
ward for political service It goes is the Union, as it were, Cabinet Min
by way or right to the Attorney- isters, and one a form er provincial
General, ”, Premier Out o f 17 persons appointed
v ho is a Member of Parliament, a verv to the Supreme Court o f Canada, 10
influential member o f the Govern w «re oppointed directly to the Supre
ment and sometimes a member o f the me Court most o f them with previous
Cabinet Jackson comments political experience and career
“ Hence politics may not only sec So lei us not start from the posi
ure a greater change o f judicial offi tion that the hall-m ark of the dem o
ce but may lead direct to the more c r a ts system is a Chinese wall, a
desirable offices. A system of pro sharp dividing line, between politic*
motion would perhaps lead to- far on the one hand the Bench on the
worse result Once a man is on the other But o f course, our tradition n
Bench, he should be as independent not the same. I d o not recommend
as possible; if by judicial conduct that more Hegdes should be put on
pleasing to the Government, he tho Bench, not at all.
mighty secure promotion there SHRI A TA L BIHARI VAJPAYEE
would be the chance that he might Mr. Ray should be made Chief Justice
bo always thinking o f his future
career The pressing o f political SHRI S. MOHAN KUM ARAM AN -
claims to appointment in England G A LA M : Perhaps on * future occa
does at least end w hen the appoint sion som e hon. members show merii
ment is made; the debt is paid And in law and skill in it, w e m ay even
the political account is c l o s e l " appoint one from there. D o not lose
381 Appointment of VAXSAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Chief Justice of 382
India 0 i s .)
hope. But w« In India have not ltd- Now the trouble is—it is interesting
■opted this course. Barring Hegde, w e u> read what he has said:
have not. I do not think w e probably
w ill. But w e are entitled surely to *1 cannot give any conclusive
look into the philosophy o f & Judge. p r o o f’—
W e are entitled to look into his out
look. We are entitled to come to the he cannot give it—
conclusion that the philosophy o f this
J u d ge is forward-looking and o f that “ but I am convinced that she is
quite piqued with me” .
Judge backward-lookujig and to decide
that we w ill take the forward-looking I am a bit w orried,' because listening
Judge and not the backward-looking
to my good friend* Shn Madhu Limaye
Judge Surely that much of freedom
also, 1 was a bit worried because he
at least should be given to us, without
has formed a high opinion o f Justice
saying that w e have raped democracy,
Grover because Justice G rover decid
that w e have gone against all the
ed a case m his favour. He thinks
principles of the democratic way of
that the Prime Minister is piqued with
life Surely that much generosity we
him because he decided a case against
can expect from your side This is
her ( Interruptions)
the way in which, I think, we should
lo o { at it. SHRI PILOO MODY Which makes
Let me com e finally, because I think both of them human.
T lannot keep au ay from it, refer to
SHRI S MOHAN KUMARAM AN
the very interesting statement made
G ALAM The trouble is that neither
b\ our good friend, I must call him
Mr M&lhu Limaye nor Mr Hegde
‘Mi Hegde’ because I think he has
skw been elevated from ‘Mr Justice PROF MADHU DANDAVATE In
Hciide’ to ‘Mr Hegde’ There is on® one case liberty was involved, m the
tK»ri£? about TTegdes statement, if you other case, corruption was involved
ifa<i it carefully and objectively If
i»r' thing it does, it breathes politics SHRI S MOHAN KUM ARAM AN
*ron the first to the last word , not GALAM I think it w ill be helpful if
law That is very clear. you would adwse your friend when
you meet him next, because he is not
AN HON MEMBER Dirty politics here at the moment that he and his
friend, Justice Hegde, should not
SHRI S MOHAN KUM ARAM AN- judge the Prime Minister by that
GAjuAM None but a politician could stand«iid The Prime Minister does
luii t> said what he has said not take a like or a dislike to a Judge
on the basis o f what the Judge de
SHRI A T A L BIHARI VAJPAYEE cides That is irrelevant, that is not
A f u r lesigmng
in the picture It is unfortunate that
SHRI S MOHAN KUM ARAM AN- you should have descended to that
GAUM He thinks that the Prime level that you look at things in that
Munster has got an ‘animus' against way. It is a sort of hitting at the
him becau«e he decided a small inter ground level, try to lift yourself up if
locutory matter in an election peti you can.
tion, not an election petition, let us
b e clear. 1 look also with a certain amount
o f sorrow at the way Justice Hegde
SHRI SHYAMNANDAN M ISHRA: has charged me and charged of
Everybody understands i t course, m y colleague, the Law Minis
ter I am supposed to have used
SHRI S. MOHAN KUM ARAM AN - ‘democracy as a cover’ , whereas w ith
<€»ALAM: I know m y facts. him it is an ’article o f faith’. I do
383 Appointment of M AY 2, 1073 Chief Justice af tndim (Dis,) 3^
IShri S. % h a n Itvmarainangolomj Use how wise our people are, literate

not Quarrel with It, He hat charged °r illiterate, Tb«y know their inter*
mu with having the aim of ‘sabotaging *sts rauch bett*r ***» Mr. Hegde
the present Constitution’, that I have
entered the Congress Party only— I
Finatty, Mr. Hegde says there is n o *
quote— as *an act of strategy to cap press. The gentlemen up there, mem*
ture pow er from within’. bers o f the fourth estate, w ill please
understand that their only freedom in
SHRI PJLOO MODY: Correct. India is to praise Government; every
day, we read the newspapers, and w e
SHRI S. MOHAN KUM ARAM AN- find them full o f praise for the G ov
G ALAM : O f course, I have been ernment; nothing else! What a lovely
hearing this all along from Shri Piloo situation would it be? But this Is
Mody and Shri D. F. Karaka, the how Mr. Hedge looks at things. What
two most voluable people on this are we to do with a man w ho is not
question. I have enjoyed it. They able to read the newspapers properly
hold these political views and so na and says that newspapers are only
turally they have been airing these ful of praise for the Government
views. But now I realise that apart But fortunately ojr unfortunately, I do
from these two gentlemen whose pre not go further into it, we like this
judices always blinded their political controversy; we like the heat o f con
vision, there is a third one. So, let troversy out of which truth emergos.
him go. I have no objection; none But for Mr. Hegde to cheat himself
at all. (Interruptions) Mr. Piloo and deceive himself, to what end? Ul
Mody talks o f four Marx brothers; timately, he says there is no opposi
I can now talk of three blind mice; tion; so you are out. No press: they
D. F. Karaka, Piloo Mody and Sada- are out; No people: India is out So,
nanda Hegde. That is all I can say what is left? Mr. Hegde. Therefore,
about it. We have the judges. They are to pro
tect you, because you are no use to
Anyway, to come to more serious
protect yourselves They are to pro
things; leave alone all these petty,
tect the law; the people are also no
personal attacks which unfortunately
use They cannot protect themselves,
drags Mr. Hegde down 1 can only
and they have to protect the pro pi.'
express my sympathy; I can sympa
And now, because he cannot piotect
thise with him. A fter all, he thmki
them, because he did not become Chi«f
he has been a little cheated out o f the Justice—of course as Chief Ju stic' h**
fruits o f his jo b which he was expect '•an but ns a juda** he cannot— here
ing; the fruit o f Chief Justice-ship to comes a Gala had of democracy to load
land in his lap which unfortunately the great army that is going to protect
we have taken away from him Na it. But how can he protect them out-
turally, he is bitter. It is human na side* Only judges can protect, ac
ture. I do not quarrel with him for cording to him. How political is th i;
that. But the most important thine approach** That i« what I want to
that he said was this: that India could say. How political?
only survive with a strong oppositon;
enlightened public opinion, a critical All the other things he said
and independent judiciary. A ccord products o f bitterness; are products o f
ing to him, there is no strong opposi disappointment; products o f sorrow. I
tion. with apologies to you all sitting ferret them. They do not matter.
there. There is no enlightened public But it is not a question o f forgiveness
ooinion. because 50 per cent of our here, It is a question of understand
people are illiterate. I wish Mr. Hegde ing; o f assessment o f the matter, how
would go to the countryside and talk political he is. Naturally, are we to
to the ek'ctors, and then he w ill rea- be surprised that even Hindustan
m A
tf
pOte
iirubv
iof VAISAKHA 12
, (SAKA
) cHic
/J twt
ice of 386
India (Dis
.)
Times, no g reat defendero fthe Gov SHRI SHYAMNANDAN M ISHRA:
ernmen t, no great supporter o f the Thi
sk ind o
f observa
t ion com
ingfrom
Prime M inister
, should say tha t “the the Chai
ris wrong. Then we wil
lalso
intempe rate andin judi
cious statement do so.
.. (In te
rruptions)
issued by M r.K .S. Hegdeon Tue sday
leaves an ob jec
tive reade r”— I am MR. SPEAKER :I t has been a very
natural
ly no t an ob ject
ive reade r
!— orderly di
scuss
ion. I f you wantto do
“with thefee ling that perhap sit i s likethis
,I w i
ll notbeab leto helpyou,
justa s welltha tthis part
icularjudge I requested youin the beg inning to
was passed over.” lis
tento ea ch otherw ithoutinterrup
ting each other f requen t
ly...
(Inter
SHRI SHYAMNANDAN M
ISHRA
: ruptions
)
Wh
ich pape
risi
t?
SHR
I SHYAMNANDAN M ISHRA:
SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMAN i
four observat
ions are no
tin keeping
GALAM : Iam en
titledtoread what1 w
iththe digni
tyo fthe Chair
.
want
; you a
re ent
i t
led to read wha
t
MR. SPEAKER : When he ha s go t
you want
. ItisH indus
tan T ime
s.
notr
ing to say, he ca s
tsrefle
ctions on
SHRI SHYAMNANDAN M ISHRA: the Cha ir
... (In terrupt
ions)
. He ha s
The person who served the P rime absolu
tely no thing to say. Tha ti s
Min
iste
ri sthe ed
ito
ro fthat pape
r. why he isf ighlmg w ith the Cha ir
‘
v
.jthout any rea son. He shou ld s i
t
MR
. SPEAKER : Mr Mish
ra, wil
l down.
you please s
it down? I
t has been
go
ing very peacefu
lly
. SHR I SHYAMNANDAN M ISHRA :
I canno
t be b
rowbea
ten by you l
ike
SHR I S
. MOHAN KUMARAMAN th
is.
GALAM : I adop
t the argumen
t in
that pape
r. They say-
--
-- r
r,*
'4t s
rrrw
q t #t»t ^
ft f
iwsr $>
rr 1
SHRI S. A. SHAM IM (Srinagar):
I take my ha t
so ff to that ed ito
r. SHR I SAMAR GUHA (Con taj)
:
Longlive tha
t edi
tor. (In
terruptions) Itis very unbe
coming o
fthe Chai
rto
show h i
stempe rl
ike this
.
SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMAN
GALAM : I hope you w
ill be happy SHR
I SHYAMNANDAN M ISHRA :
w
ith tha
t cert
ifi
cate
. Keep it
. You mus
t obse
rve some impa
rtia
lity
.
I have alwaysl ieen amu sed at wat MR SPEAKER: Everybody wasl

is
ching M r
. Sham im be cause he get
s up tening to M
r. Madhu L imaye with
inth* Hou seinsu ch atempe ra sif he pat
ience
.
is going to throw eve rything atu s
.
andthen s its down and sm i
les
. Tha t AN HON
. MEMBER
: He wa
sin
ter

shows how se riously hetake shimse l
f. rupted
.
Why shou ld we take h im mo re
serious
ly? SHR I SAMAR GUHA : We have
every right to express ou r judge-
Anyway there is one las t thins rnent
*. He ha s no rightto denig
rate
which I want to say. Shri Hegdein the who le Par
liament m the manne r
thecou r
seo fh i
sra therextendedcon he is doing___(Int
erruptions)
.
ference yes
terday, expressed hi
s ap
prehens
ion . (Interrup
tion®) MR. SPEAKER : The deba te was
go
ing on very peacefu
lly I neverin
SHRI SHYAMNANDAN M ISHRA
: terrupted
. I neversaid a word abou
t
I
si t a pe
rsona
ldi
scus
sion
? any speaker. I
t does no
tlook niceto
interruptlikethis
.
5
«
fJL
S
-1
.
3
MR
. SPEAKER
: Wha
tel
sei
sthe
re’
3S7 Appointment of MAY a, 1973 Chief Justice of Jfndia (& *,) 3^8
SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA:

at ^ 'f wtt *tpt 5fa% tr*
Mr. Madhu Limaye was interrupted.
*m i *m *^t
MR. SPEAKER: Don’t behave like
this. s fm sft p r w m jfurr
I
SHRI G. VISWANATHAN (W an-
diw ash): On a point of order. There w **w *r£t*cr : 'jft fftn iz ? &
is nothing objectionable m the Minis
ter taking such a long time. Even ^ 3ft, Jr
tom orrow or the day after tomorrow «rr f a sm nm ^ wk fs r? f? r
he can speak. Our objection is only
t o | i w w W t % s f*
this. He has taken 15 to 20 minutes
on Mr. Hegde alone. Now he has ^ Jfrftr %vt ^ ^
proved his enmity towards Mr. Hegde ^ tt 1 ^ h : «r?? ^ r r r ^ >r ■&, %
W hy should he further waste the
fw n m rr iTTfsr fft ^?r wft ^
time of t i e House7 Let him go to
other poirts. eft «ft ?ftT ^frf ?ift f^ramr
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h>vtt zi > am not calling you.
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389 Appointment of VAISAKHA 12, 1895 ( SAKA) Chief Justice of 390
India (Dis.)
: $ sftsff ?TOB Samar Guha has asked whether
^ srrar ^fr^nnr f i members could show their hands to
the press or should they show their
I ulso represent the other side. 1 eyes?
am speaking for both sides—not only MR. SPEAKER: In the subject we
for one side. Please sit down. aie discussing we cannot help men
tioning the names. So far as looking
SHRI PILOO MODY; Mr. Speaker,
at the press is concerned, sitting here
Sir, if you will permit me lor a m o
I always see that some members all
rn jiit, there is u difference between a
the time look at them. How can I
legitimate interruption, interjection
help that? I do not like it. But I see
and the sort of barrackin'7 that you
that some members do it all the time.
have fjcen hearing, of late. A person
occupying the chair should be con SHRI K S. CHAVDA (Patan):
versant with what is happening. When I u s speaking on President’s
Rule in Gujarat I pointed to the
MR. SPEAKER: You please sit press. At that time the Deputy-
down Won't advise me. Speaker, who was in the Chair, ask
ed mo not to point to the press. That
19 hrs. was the ruling given at that time.
SHRI SAMAR GUHA: There L a MR SPEAKER: Then he pointed

convention and also a rule that while out m his speech to the Members of
qpeaucii. ’ on the floor of the House, Parliament and he pointed out also
no member will po>nt to the precs to the press as part of it in his speech,
gallery. In hts exuberant moorl to lie was not doing it to get h>s speech
propagate a partic ular philosophy reported; he was mentioning it in the
which should be the criterion context of his •speoch.
for choosing a new Chief Jus
tice. Mr, Kumarumangalam pointed to 3!*pr S*nw far? (^RTtr) :
the pres-> gallery not once, not twice, st^ tt w £ 1
but thrice and vou in your wisdom
ih>l not say anything about this viola
tion of the convention and rules of % # ft: i j s T W f t ^
procedure I want to know whether srTff.i 1 it*t i fc *
a member is entitled while making a
sr*1? t‘ t fr rr itpt i
spoeoh t'1 point out to the pres? gal
lery.
SHRI S MOHAN K U M ARA-
MR. SPEAKER: This is no point of MANGALAM- Mr Speaker, may I
order. Some members are all the conlm uc a/tPi this interlude? I was
time looking at the press gallery commenting on Mr Hegde* s state
while speaking. ment that h > has no confidence in the
Government He has no confidence i>-
SHRI S. M. BANERJEE <Kanpur >: the opposition. be has no confidence
My point of order is this. Some hon m the people and he has confidence
Members have raised the question only vii himself and the Court. There
why the name of Shri Hejjde has been fo r e only the courts can correct the
mentioned many times. A fter all, executive; that is his theme. Now, if
we are discussing the three Judges the courts alone are to correct the
and one of them is Mr. Justice He.cde executive, then we w ill have conti
an-I his conduct has to bo discussed. nued confrontation. Is that the way
We cannot discuss the Judges who he is looking at the future? I think
have not resigned. Secondly, I want that is the way he looks at it. That
your ruling on another point. Shri shows his philosophy and I think it is
39* Appointment of MAY 2, 1973 Chief Jwtice of M i a (Dis.) 39 a
[Shri S. Mohan Kumaramangalam] the Judge, his attitude to life and to

just right that w e have done what the future o f our country.
we have done.
Fourthly, it is entirely within the
One final thing. Shri Hegde has discretion of the Government o f the
charged “ possibly m y telephone was day to appoint the person considered
being tapped and my movements were in its eyes as the most suitable, as
being watched*’. He has used the having the most suitable philosophy
w ord “ possibly" because he seems to or outlook, to occupy the highest ju di
have that sort of feeling. Let me cial office in the country.
assure him and let me assure the
Members of this House that his tele Fifthly, the ftiost important feature
phone is not bugged and his m ove of the functioning o f a court is its
ments are not watched. W e have certainty and stability in relation to
better things to do in our country the m ajor and vital questions of law.
than doing all these things. This is very important so far as the
highest court of our country is con
SHKI SAM AR GUHA: How can he cerned,
say that the telephones are not being
tapped? My telephone is being tap Sir, I have done. The heat and dust
ped. as also that o f some other hon. of controversy over the appointment
M em bers----- (interruptions) o f the present Chief Justice will die
down and, I have no doubt m my
SHRI S. MOHAN K U M ARA mind, that this departure from an
MANGALAM: What then are the obviously wrong convention and prac
conclusions that I press on the House tice later when the history o f our
m this matter? I would like to put country and of our courts is to be
before the House the final conclu written, w ill be a landmark in the
sions. Firstly, it is not an essential history o f our country in the sense
pre-condition to the proper working that it opened up a debate on the
o f the democratic system that the rightness and wrongness of the con
Chief Justice must be appointed on vention and uncovered the real rea-
the basis of seniority, but on the con *ons that must move a Government
trary, such a practice can only lead in makinp appointments to a h’gh
to harmful consequences, as the offic* o f this kind.
wrong man may well be appointed
by the accident o f seniority, and The very character of this contro
seniority often means that no Judge versy w ill lead to a spread o f know
will serve for a long enough period to ledge regarding the matters at issue
give continuity and leadership to the thourh, unfortunately, much of the
court. Secondly, it is not an essen arguments and passions being expen
tial pre-condition to the proper w ork ded today is without studying the
ing o f the democratic system that a facts, what happens in n democratic
judge prior to appointment should be system- (Interruptions) This is m y
innocent of political views or convic view. 1 am entitled to express it be
tions, if at all it is possible to find fore you.
such a person, and certainly Shri
Hegde does not belong to this cate One last quotation. This is very
gory. crucial in understanding the mind o f
any Judge. Justice Cardozo says:
Thirdly, some knowledge o f public
affairs, o f the larger things that move “ D„>ep below consciousness are
the minds and passions o f millions, is other forces, the likes and the dis
an important qualification for appoint likes the predilections and the pre
ment to the highest court o f the land judices. the com plex o f instincts and
for such has to be the philosophy o f emotions and hgltfft and c o »y ic-
303 Appointment of VAISAKHA 12, 1895 (SAKA) Chief Justice of 394
w India (Dis.)
tions, which make the man, w he day. Land reforms is a very im
ther he be litigant or judge.” portant m atter-----
— or a Member of Parliament. MR SPEAKER: I am sorry, we can

not have it on Friday because the
ME. SPEAKER: We had allotted Minister will not be here on Friday.
6 hours for this discussion. Up to We shall have to shift it to next
what time do you want to sit? You week. (Interruption&) Or, we can take
want to finish today or continue it on it up right now. Are you prepared?
Friday?
SHRI SAMAR GUHA; Today, it is
SHRI SAM AR GUHA; Sir, my not possible. I was given the impres
H alf-An-H our Discussion on land re sion that it would not be taken up
forms has been shifted to Friday. This today. I cannot make an impromptu
discussion is to continue on Friday. I speech. (Interruptions) W e can have
am afraid, my H alf-An-H our Discus it tomorrow.
sion will be again postponed.
MR. SPEAKER: It is unfortunate. WW : 5FT dT | I

Every time your H alf-An-H our Dis
cussion is put, something or other
5? srnrr n?r £ 5% nzc(K
urgent comes up. f I m fa ir *ft
SHRI SAM AR GUHA: This land # 5 WW i I

reforms is a very important subject.
MR. SPEAKER: When do you Mr. Pilco Mody wants to speak.

want it? Will tne Minister keep sitting for some
more time9 I will adjourn the House
SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Let it be
tomorrow. after Mr. Piloo M ody has finished his
speech.
MR SPEAKER: I am sorry. Tom or
row, we have cot the Finan<e Bill SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra). I
was considerably entertained by the
SHRI SAMAR GUHA: If this dis performance put forward by the star
cussion is taken up on Friday, m> performer of the Congress party
H alf-An-H our Discussion w ill be again There is ab:olutely no doubt about
shifted. it at all that he has received a lif?
MR. SPEAKER: I am told the time’s training in propagating his ca
Minister will not be hero nn Friday use with the greatest erudition th**
If the Minister is not there, there is perhaps this House ha.1? ever been
no use of taking it up on Friday fortunate enough to witness.
I think, we should take it up next
week, cither on Monday or Tuesday. Nevertheless his arguments are
somewhat transparent. 1 think, he has
SHRI SAMAR GUHA: May I admitted in a very simple language
seek yîur protection. Sir? This has that the Supreme Court as it existed
been postponed twice. Why uan the in India was a moth-eaten inctution
Minister not be present on Friday? which does not suit his philosophy,
MR SPEAKER: We had fixed it and, therefore, the time has now come,
for today and the Minister is present because of certain confrontations^ cer
today. And today w e decide to post tain differences of opinion, that have
be-’ n held between the Supreme C~urt
pone it.
and Parliament, when w e should
SHRI SAMAR' GUHA: It was not change the structure of the Supreme
communicated to m e that the hon Court and make it a m outh-piece o f
Minister would not be present on Fri the Government I think, he has made
395 Appointment of M AY 2, 1973 Chief Justice of India (D is.), 39$
[Shri P oloo M ody] It spurred by the three Marx Bra-'

his case very dear, and I do not See thers___
any reason why he gets upset if Jus
tice Hegde— even though he may not
choose to rail him justice any mere— AN HON. MEMBER: Who are they?
also happens to state the same thing.
I think, this is all that the Opposi SHRI PILOO MODY: Two of them
tion has been accusing the Govern arc present here and one o f them
ment of— of having withdrawn the en was sent to Bengal.
tire basis o f the Supreme Court as en
shrined in the Constitution o f India
It is not an invention of theirs. It
and turned it into a mouth 1piece, a
started, and I remind the hon. Minis
perform er on behalf of the Govern
ter, at the time o f the Magna Carta,
ment. Now, that is his avowed attitu
as far ba *k as 1215. It went through
de towards justice. He can quote from
the first Parliament of Simon
America, he can quote from Australia,
fort, it went through the French Revo
he can quote from New Zealand, he
lution and it went through the Ame
can quote from Japan but he cannot
rican Revolution and through the Great
quote from the Soviet Union. It is
R’e form Bill and ultimately, the Code
quite evident, that he cannot quote
Nepolean and finally, the United Na
from there nor can he transplant it in
tions Charier on Human Rights, ulti
India because none o f these respecta
mately ending m the Constitution of
ble countries that he has quoted had India, the Constitution o f India which
Mrs. Gandhi and the Congress Party for the first time gave to the nation
functioning m them. And it is preci a social philosophy and enshrined in
sely because Mrs. Gandhi, supported that Constitution a chapter on the
by these three Marx Brothers on the Directive Principles of State Policy.
Congress Benches, is functioning in
this country and the influence they
have had in shaping or mis-shaping It has been often argucr! by the:>e
the dem ocracy of this country that it gentlemen who talk a lot and read
becomes even more incumbent that little that the Directive Principles
the Supreme Court should be schedul have all of a sudden beeomn supreme
ed isolated and kept out of the grab Did you hear the antL’s of the hon.
bing reaches of this G overnm ent/’ Minister over there who said that
Believe me. Sir, I believe m social some Judges think it is here and some
change. But I believe in social Judges think it is there? Tt is very
change for the people and not for the simple why our Fundamental Rights
masters and this is the basic difference differ from the rights guaranteed in
of opinon that we have between these the Directive Principles. Only because
desk-thumpers on the one side and the one is inherent and can be found in
people w ho try to oppose them on the nature and the other requires work
other. When w e want soical change, on the part of Mrs. Gandhi anil her
we want a social change for the people Ministers to bring it about. The Cons-
and not for the masters. W e believe, titution guarantees us Ihe light to
we may b e right or wrong, that thi? work. How does the right to work
change should be gradual, it should be just become inherent unless you, Mr.
orderly and it should be by democra Mohan Kumaramangalam and Mr. Go-
tic process— democratic process, and khate, work hard to see that everybody
T repeat the word 'democrat lP process' can get a jo b in this country? And this
w ork does not depend on merely smea
— but how is Mr. Mohan Kumaraman-
ealam to know what is democratic pro ring Justice Hegde. This w ork does
cess? After all, social change, irres not depend on merely smearing the
pective of the claims that may be Opposition and catting them all man
made b y the Treasury Benches, was ner of names. This means, work, hard
not invented by Mrs. Gandhi was work, In the fields, hard work in the
367 Appointment of VA 1SAKHA 12. 1895 (SAKA) Chief Justice of 3$#
India (Dis.)
factories, hard work in the offices and oi them. They talk about socialism,
most c f all, hard work in the Minis while living m enormous mansions,
tries which will create the sort of enjoying a salary of over Rs. 12
jobs that the Directive Principles had lakhs. And they talk about us being
m mind to provide for the people of "light reaction” and they being left
this country. adventurists and all the wisdom and
knowledge through the quotations of
We talk about social change. Social Cardozo, all crammed into the head
change will come in with cr without of the Minister himself.
Mr. Mohan KumaramangaJam and his I hang my head in shame. What sort
colleagues. ot Parliament is this? 1 believe that
on the Congress benches, there are
But for a brief aberration of perver something like 200 lawyers. Where are
ted totalitarian theory propounded by they? Have they iorgo*u>n their
Mr. Karl Marx, picked up by the au profession? Have they forgotten wxiat
thoritarians to disrupt the so<ial pro is happening? Has some lightning hit
gress cf eight centuries w'C would them dumb? Where are these 200 law
have been well on our way today of yers? Where is their conscience?
having a transformed society, with Where is their conviction? What is tne
equality and justice for all. Well, I use ol life if it is to be without cour
can say, in spite of the brave protes age? What is the use of education, if
tations of the Minister, that this coun it is to be without character? What is
try will not accept his theory and it the use of social status, if it is with
w ill not accept his philosophy. He can out reputation, what is the use of
go and find himself another I ariia- privileges if they are to be without
ruent. He can go and i'md himself responsibility; what is the use of
another country; but it will not be rights if they are to be without du
India. ties; and what is the use of a social
Sir, Mr. Mohan Kumaramangalam philosophy if it is to be without a
has said, “ let us have committed social conscience? Individually 1
judges." This is what he has really can only say that they are ciphers; but
said. collectively, they behave like a mob
and this is even more tragic.
SHFU S. MOHAN KUMARAMAN
I have seen day after day the Prime
GALAM ; I rise on a point of order.
Minister sitting in this very Parlia
It is not a question cf committed
ment. Ministers of Cabinet rank, Mi
judges, because that word is always
nisters of State and Deputy Ministers,
misused. I did not say, ‘•committed
and then there are some others hang
judges ’’
ing a t the back also. They s it here,
SHRI PILOO MODY; I would like including the Minister of Parliamen
to correct the Hon. Minister. While tary Affairs, day in and day out and
I can grant him the word, I cannot see this barra'kmg section over here.
grant the thought. The whole purpose And they do not think that this is
c f his speech was to explain, m the damaging democracy. It is very tragic.
most likeable fashion, if I may say so, Either t h e y must admit that they
that this era has gone; we must have have no control over their own mem
committed judges, judges “ who believe bers or they must ar'mit that barrack
in us” judges “ who will do what wo ing is a very healthy parliamentary
say,” judges “ who think what we do” . practice which,— just as they have per
What has actually happened, he has verted the Supreme Court— they have
gone even lieyond the scope of com decided to use it to pervert Parlia
mitted judges. What the Government ment itself. To say the least, it is a
really wants is, servants of their mas tragedy.
ters. That is w'hat they want. They
a rt so used to courtesies and having Now, w hy has this happened?
courtiers bowing and scraping in front Why has one judge been selected at
399 Appointment oj k A Y 4, 1978 CHie/ iu»ttee ty ln<il» & k S 40 }
(Shri P iloo M ody) than where he is, and he can* become

the Deputy Prime Minister o f this
the expense o f another? X cannot un
country, and he can even become the
derstand why, because the judgment
Prime Minister o f this country) but
that the Supreme Court gave, the 13*
he w ill not be able to bring about
Member Bench of the judiciary gave,
that sort o f change in India, and this!
was a great and historic judgment. It
is the challenge that I throw to him.
may be that there were many judg
He may accept it, he may believe me
ments and it may be that it took some or he may not believe me.
time to sort them out, but in essence,
it gave to Government almost 90 per Shrimati Indira Gandhi and the
cent c f what it wanted with certain Ministers have apologised. They have
restraints; it also gave to the citizens said that after all it was not merit
10 per cent o f what they yearned for that they were considering, it was
also with certain responsibilities cast not seniority that they were con
on them. And yet, having got such a sidering, but Shri S. Mohan Kumara
favourable judgment from the Sup mangalam has been very honest, and,
reme Court, these vultures o f power therefore, I thank him. I appreciate
were not satisfied; they had to hit honesty w herever I see it, even if it
back and to hit back with a sort oi is not part of the democratic process,
venom, vengeance and vindictiveness because honesty has its own value,
in the most vulgar display o f all the and it exists on its own.
arrogance o f pow er that has ever
been seen. The other day, m Lucknow or was
it in Kanpur, the Prime Minister
A ll that I can say is that if the col talked about how she wanted to bring
justice to the poor but the big bad
lective responsibility of the Govern
ment dees not exist in it, then 1 wolves like me m the form of right
reaction consisting o f three Members
think that it may be that the Prime
Minister who does not understand law heie were stopping this massive man
date nf 350 joined by God knows how
or economics or anything else has.
many from this side, wt» w ere stop
been misled by the Marx Brothers who
ping them fiom bringing about this,
are constantly at her elbow. The
that is, bringing justice to the poor.
judgem ent was a product of social
change. There was a time when the
Th0 same Law Commission which
same Justices would not have com e
has now been made a victim o f poli
up w ith the same judgment. Sir,
tical manoeuvring suggested several
judgments change as social changes
methods by which justice could be
take place There was a time when
made cheaper in this country, thr
Mr. K aldor came to this country and
ough court', stamp duties, methods
recommended that the highest level
by which luwyets w ere employed,
of taxation should be 45 per cent
the time element and «o on. Has
Ten or fifteen years later, a hesitant
Government tok<>n a single step in
Justice Wanchoo, sitting on a hesitant
that direction? Whore is this con
commission suggested that it should
cern foi the poor that I keep on
be 75 per cent. This is a direct re
hearing about night, day and after
sult of social change and social think noon*
ing. It was, you can call it in my
language, intimidation. But it was SHH1 MADHU U M A Y E ; Y ou find
changc, and it was change called u p it in Maruti socialism.
on by society. They are not satisfied
with this sort o f change; they want to S lim PILOO M ODY; Shri Madhu
change it in the manner which Shri Li may e has found me the answer.
S. Mohan Kumaramangalam has re
ceived a life-tim e's training. A ll that It has been proved— Shri Mohan
1 have to say is that he can art Kumammangalam instead o f speak*
where he is; he can sit even higher ing for an hour and a half could have
4OX Appointment o f VAISAKHA 12. 1895 (SAKA) Chief Justice of 402
India (Dis.)
taken three hour*; I am sure he is MR. SPEAKER: The House stands
capable of it, it w ould have made no adjourned till 11 a.m. tomorrow.
difference— that this Government has
gone mad. Vinasa kale viparita 19.37 hrs.
buddhi, those whom the God wishes to
destroy. He first turns them mad. The L ok Sabha then adjourned till
That is what is happening today in Eleven o f the Clock on Thursday,
India. May 3, 1973/Vasakha 13, 1895 (Saka).
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Wednesday, May 2, 1973

Fifth Series, No. 48

LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT

No. 4&— Wednesday, May 2 , i$rj$(Vaisahha 12,1895 (Saka)

Written Answers to Questions :

Starred Questions Nos. 925 and 930 to 940 . . 33—43

Unstarred Questions Nos. 8740 to 8751, 8753108792, 8794

Re. Question of Previlege . . . . . 208— 10

(ii) Non-availability offoodgrainsand Cement inGujarat 214— 16

Shri R. S. P a n d e y ................................................................. 216—24

Dr. Kami S i n g h ................................................................. 225—39

Shri Piloo M o d y ................................................................. 246—50

Shri Dinesh S i n g h ................................................................. 250—57

Shrimati Bhargavi Thankappan.............................................. *57—60

Shri Rajdeo S i n g h ................................................................. 260—67

Shri S. R. D a m a n i ................................................................. 268—72

Shrimati Sheila K a u i.................................................................272— 73

Dr. K a i l a s ........................................................................... 273— 78

Shri S ezh iy a n ..................................... • . . . *78 -9 1

Shri Darbara S i n g h ........................................................... 291— 97

Shri N. K. S a n g h i ........................................................... 297—305

Shri M. Satyanarayana R a o ................................................. 305—309

Discussion Re. Appointment of Chief Justice o f India . . 311

Shri Madhu Limaye ............................................................. 3*4—33

Shri Narsingh Narain P a n d e y .......................................333—39

Shri Jagannath K a o .......................................................... 339~ 46

Shri A. K. Gopalan . . . . . . 346—51

Shri Vayalar R a v i ............................................................ 351—58

Shri H, N. M ukerjee........................................................... 358-68

Shri S. Mohan Kumaramangalam . . . . 368—93

Shri Piloo Mody. . . . . . . 394—401

Radio and Electronic Components SHRI K C PANT. Phillips <lnma)

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SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN: Integrator SHRI SAMAR GUHA: May I hum­

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regard to the charges. The question SHRI BHAGW AT JH A ASSAD:

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(c ) and (d). The proceeds from SHRI MANORANJAN HAZRA: May

SHRI K D. M ALAVIYA In view

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