Post Mortem Consciousness Views of Psych
Post Mortem Consciousness Views of Psych
Post Mortem Consciousness Views of Psych
August 2019
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“The material being presented for examination is my own work and has not been
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explicitly noted in the body of the thesis. Where research pertaining to the thesis was
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Claudia Nielsen
August 2019
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Acknowledgements:
I am grateful for the support I received from various people who have
helped me on this journey, in particular my friend and colleague Val
Thomas who first lit the idea of this project in my mind, and Prof. Nollaig
Frost who had such faith in me.
I wish to dedicate this work to my children, Nick, Stephan and Sacha and
to my grandchildren, Eva, Luke, Thomas and Charlie who have all taught
me so much about life and to my twin-brother Mario and my father who
have taught me about the benefits of an open mind.
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Abstract:
Claudia Nielsen
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the potential presence of underlying issues that may stem from clients’
views about post-mortem consciousness in clients’ presenting issues.
Table of Contents
Chapter 1 Introduction...................................................16
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2.6.2. Philosophical and scientific perspectives on consciousness .. 47
perception ........................................................................... 64
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3.6.2. Survey data collection and analysis ....................................107
3.7.2. Transferability....................................................................115
3.8.3.4. Daniel........................................................................119
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3.8.3.10. Kim .......................................................................... 121
3.8.4.1.3 What does life after death looks like to you? .......... 125
3.8.4.1.7 Is there anything else you’d like to tell me. ............ 126
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3.10. Validity in IPA ....................................................................136
4.4. Do these questions have an influence in the way you live your
life? ....................................................................................148
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4.5.5. Secular awareness ............................................................. 161
4.6.2. Making the most of the here and now ................................ 174
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5.5. Superordinate theme: the subject of death in the work with
clients ................................................................................208
6.2.1. Do these questions have an influence in the way you live your
life? ....................................................................................231
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6.2.3. Final comments ................................................................. 241
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7.2.4. Tacit knowing, the tool of belief ..........................................275
Discussions ..................................................................299
8.3. Suicide...............................................................................304
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8.5. Conclusion ........................................................................ 308
9.4. Influence of those views on their work with clients ............. 315
References ……………………………………………….….
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List of Figures
List of Tables
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Table 3 – Cross tabulation of belief in post-mortem consciousness and its
influence on living life .................................................................. 244
Table 4– Cross tabulation of beliefs in post-mortem consciousness and
its influence on work with clients ................................................. 250
List of Appendices
Appendix 1 ......................................................................................... 344
Appendix 2 ......................................................................................... 348
Appendix 3 ......................................................................................... 349
Appendix 4 ......................................................................................... 349
Appendix 5 ......................................................................................... 350
Appendix 6 ......................................................................................... 351
Appendix 7 ......................................................................................... 352
Appendix 8 ......................................................................................... 353
Appendix 9 ......................................................................................... 356
Appendix 10 ....................................................................................... 357
Chapter 1 Introduction
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1.1. Overview
This chapter will contextualise the research. I will position myself in the
research, state the research question and aims, and give a summary of
each chapter.
told me overtly that they have a fear of their own death. I have also had
example of this is a client who swallowed a fish bone which scratched her
throat. The bone did not cause her any further physical problems, but
the powerful anxiety and panic that she developed brought her to
Tube. This was problematic because, being a business woman, she had
often meetings in buildings where the lift would be the easiest travel
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dismissed, perspective about the mystery that is death and what may be
Looking into the dark corners of the popular collective psyche, we find
the subject of death and the paranormal occupying much space there
(Garrett, 2015). At Halloween for instance, people play out this darkness
unconsciously, the grip these underlying fears have on them. The way we
relate to both death and the paranormal is intimately connected with the
mystery of consciousness.
In the current scientific paradigm (Kuhn, 1962), which advocates that the
There is, however, an alternative to this mainstream view – that is, the
consciousness, but not its source. This viewpoint has its exponents
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Experience, (Eccles, 1966), in which 22 of the contributors agreed that no
materialist theory could account for the workings of the human brain.
Further evidence comes from the research into the phenomenon of near-
death experiences (Fenwick & Parnia, 2002, Greyson & Khanna, 2014,
Van Lommel, 2013). The findings indicate that people who have
seeing dead relatives. Fenwick (2002, 2010, 2007) has also researched
time as well. These included visions by the dying person and by living
All of the dreams of people who are facing death indicate that the
unconscious, that is, our instinct world, prepares consciousness not
for a definite end, but for a profound transformation and for a kind
of continuation of the life process which, however, is unimaginable
to everyday consciousness. (p.156)
open mind I have with respect to what happens after death is a result of
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If consciousness is generated by the brain, then with the death of the
consciousness.
potentially infinite and immortal. Might this be the insight of the faith
traditions? Ariès (1981) tells us that ‘until the age of scientific progress,
nothing if he does not. Although this is a good cover for a bet, it plays no
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part in the consideration of the theory of post-mortem existence being
discuss such matters, in what ways do they think about such issues,
and how do their views influence their work with clients? The question is
about their own mortality and what may come after. It is understood that
the findings in this study do not claim to represent the overall population
study.
and their Influence on the Work with Clients - is divided into two parts:
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the first is views of psychotherapists and the second is the influence on
that they are seen as serious and credible practitioners. For this reason, I
strands regarding this belief: the Platonic and the Aristotelian. These
have found their voice throughout the ages, up to the present time. I
credible.
(2009). This theory shines a light on how the type of attention and
perception we bring into play determines the world which emerges for us,
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predicated on McGilchrist’s research on the tendencies of the different
what Feifel (1959) called a ‘wall’ or a ‘door’ (an apt metaphor which I shall
use throughout this study), plays a part in how they deal with clients in
that clients who seek therapy may well be struggling with it consciously
West (Barua, 2017, Burris, 2016, Heflick, Goldenberg, Hart, & Kamp,
The second part of this research addresses whether the belief in post-
It must be stressed that this study is about death and what comes after;
it is not about dying and all that it entails. It is not about fear of suffering
prior to death. It is also not about grief and bereavement following the
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Although at times I use the word ‘afterlife’ for variation, the term carries
the demise of the physical body, the word may lose its meaning. For this
1.5. Originality
psychotherapy.
literature.
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1.6. The chapters
this research. It explains the rationale for the design, which has two
on the process.
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Chapter 6 is the survey discussion. It discusses the demographics and
mortem existence and their influence on the work with their clients.
theory.
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Chapter 2 – Literature Review
2.1 Overview
This chapter will review the relevant literature and state the search
strategy. It will explore the literature setting out the field of post-mortem
2.2. Introduction
addressed at some point in life by every person (Fontana, 2010), and the
answer for each person resides in the realm of their belief (Phillips,
1970).
2010), a term used to suggest that consciousness can operate outside the
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The importance of this subject for counselling and psychotherapy lies in
Walker (2000) points out, ‘no direct evidence to confirm the existence or
(p.19).
Most of the sources investigated for this study were encountered through
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2.4. Exploring the field
religion (Segal, 2004), although Ducasse (1961) points out that even
though religions have used the concept of an afterlife, where the ‘soul’ or
‘spirit’ will meet its rewards or punishments for the life it lived, the idea is
is the suggestion that despite the advances that have taken place in
The limitation of our minds is not a recent insight. In the 16th century,
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. (p.1038)
religious framework.
death and spirituality, this thesis will necessarily consider those two
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All, except for the last, are relevant to the way the term is used in this
thesis.
This chapter will address the question of post-mortem existence from the
Because of the limitation in the length of this thesis and also because of
Rank (1884-1939) – only a few will be included. It is, however, hoped that
The current scientific stance will be touched upon only briefly because,
once the argument has been made that consciousness resides in the
brain, there is nothing to be said about the afterlife after the death of the
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2006a) opens up a wide field of phenomena to be explored, including
post-mortem existence.
Aristotelian.
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the afterlife have frequently been based on psychic experiences by people
and parapsychology.
‘meaning’.
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professional literature of psychotherapy regarding this subject will be
undertaken.
which explains why this study was conducted within a Western, mainly
work with clients. What will not be included in this study is how these
as contemporary literature and culture (Garrett, 2015), but that will also
Despite its importance, the subject of the identity of what survives in the
afterlife will also not be explored in detail, due to the limitations of the
used.
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Finally, this chapter will identify the gap in the research which this study
addresses.
One way in which human beings differ from other species is by their
ontological confrontation with the finitude of life has occupied the minds
2014).
Scharfstein (1998) tells us that amongst the Greeks there were those
and those who believed that all things in the universe are composed of
believed that death is final. Those two strands of belief had their
followers throughout the ages and have them in present times. These
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& Zimmerman, 2016, Kelly, 1985, Routledge & Juhl, 2010) as to
existence; in his work The World as Will and Idea, Schopenhauer (1788-
1860) argues that ‘all religious and philosophical systems are principally
p.675). In the West, the Bible as the sacred text of the Abrahamic
the forbidden fruit, death, as punishment, came into being. The topic of
what happens after death is, however, not overtly developed anywhere in
the Hebrew Bible because, as Raphael (2009) tells us, any interaction
between the living and the dead was understood to be a violation of God’s
the sacred texts over the centuries in which they were written. In the
dead called ‘Sheol’. In the Book of Jubilees written in the late 2nd
Evildoers ‘will go down into Sheol ... and into the darkness of the depths
they will all be removed with a cruel death’ (Jubilees 7:29). Of the
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righteous, it is written that ‘their bones will rest in the earth and their
century CE (MacGregor, 1992). These ideas of the afterlife held sway for
many centuries.
the other, which became the Romantic movement, perceived the world as
this time, the power of the Church started to be challenged and the belief
that knowledge would replace revelation as the way to achieve a good life
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Descartes (1596-1650) is often identified as the philosopher who
introduced the dichotomy of mind and matter with the separation of ‘res
cogitans’ and ‘res extensa’2. It was the investigation of res extensa by res
supported by studies of the brain at the time showing that the mind was
unlikely to be the location of the soul (Cooney, 2003). In his book The
(1709-1751) proposed that humans and animals were part of nature, and
what, but with a how’ (McGilchrist, 2009, p.352). This strand developed a
2Res cogitans is the thinking part or mind and res extensa is the
physical aspect of a person.
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As Tarnas (1991) points out, the ambassadors for these views are,
Bergson (1859-1941).
master’ (Burbidge, 1981), and Kant (1724-1804) argued that within our
1998). Schopenhauer, who became best known for his pessimism and for
bringing Eastern Hindu and Buddhist ideas to the West, called death the
the late the 19th century in which, says Gray (1951), ‘all attempts to find
a home for the spirit in this temporal and spatial realm are foredoomed.
unknowable, which cares not for him’ (p.115). Any meaning must
says:
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Gray identifies Jaspers (1883-1969) and Heidegger (1889-1976) as the
endorsing the view that hopes for immortality are in vain. Heidegger
‘death and deathly silence alone are certain and common to all in this
future’ (Nietzsche, 1974, p.225). For him there is no room for uncertainty
coffin of the idea of a designer as the source of Creation with his book
the explanation for the diversity in the living world. His ideas took hold as
the scientific paradigm became more and more entrenched as the sole
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[Evolution is a] blind unconscious automatic process … it has
no purpose in mind. It has no mind and no mind’s eye. It does
not plan for the future. It has no vision, no foresight, no sight at
all. If it can be said to play the role of watchmaker in nature, it
is the blind watchmaker. (p.5)
In the late 20th century, interest in consciousness outside of the realm of
on the way back from the moon in which he experienced the unity of
Dr. Patrick Shackleton, Sir Kelvin Spencer and Dr. Peter Leggett as a
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The nature of consciousness is central to ideas of post-mortem existence
as it is that which gives us our sense of ‘I’. For this reason, the next
2.6. Consciousness
the quality of knowing itself (Lancaster, 2004) and our ability or capacity
spontaneity – three expressions for the same thing’ (cited in Wilber, 1995,
p.111). Wilber himself says ‘the within of things is depth, the without of
ambiguous. But as Velmans (2000) points out, ‘once a given reference for
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‘cogito ergo sum’3, he was identifying his own thinking mind as the only
consciousness.
the world of the senses. One way to understand it is to cross over to the
terminology changes and words such as ‘God’, ‘soul’ and ‘spirit’ become
relevant. The term ‘soul’ is used by religion to identify that part of human
says:
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And further ‘not to know about but to be is the mark of the real initiate’
(p.72).
Such direct experience happens when the mind becomes silent and only
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This exemplifies Forman’s knowledge by identity in which the knowledge
being made in the image of God. God’s name as revealed to Moses in the
experiencing our own reality in our own ‘I Am’, we can have an inkling of
philosophical and cultural questions of who we are and why we are here
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each about 70 millivolts in amplitude and 1 millisecond in duration.
correlates with our thoughts in a way that is not well understood (Nunez,
2010) but it is not surprising that such a scientist may draw the logical
conclusion that with the death of the brain, mind, thinking and
interesting:
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This leads us to consider the brain as a facilitator rather than a generator
often used: the images seen on the screen are not generated within the
Such ideas are advanced by Dossey (2013), Fenwick (2002), Radin (1997)
and others.
that Crick (1994), who together with James Watson discovered the
shown, that the brain can generate consciousness. Popper (in Popper &
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Eccles, 2003) calls this ‘promissory materialism’, explaining it as the
says, ‘it offers us the promise of a better world, a world in which mental
terms will have disappeared from our language, and in which materialism
equates to the question of how (or whether) brain as matter gives rise to
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Addressing this question, Chalmers (1996) asks: how can consciousness
(interiority, the ability to experience) arise from ‘dead’ matter – the brain?
logic and rational objectivity to unpick with great philosophical detail, the
measurements and points out its counterintuitive nature. With the ‘wave
says:
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I think dualism is very likely true. I have also raised the
possibility of a kind of panpsychism. Like mind-body dualism,
this is initially counterintuitive, but this counterintuitiveness
disappears with time. I am unsure whether the view is true or
false, but it is at least intellectually appealing, and on reflection
it is not too crazy to be acceptable. (p.357)
the premise that we have very little understanding of the ultimate nature
Harding (2006), describing his own experience of the Anima Mundi, the
5 The term urreligion refers to the oldest or even the original form of
religious traditions, contrasting with organised religion. The prefix ‘ur’
denotes original, primitive, primeval.
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(1995), there is a ‘Deeper Order’ which is said by spiritual traditions to
about reality, about space, about time and about the infinitely small in
his book, Reality Is Not What It Seems: The Journey to Quantum Gravity.
There are no ‘things’ in the universe, only ‘processes’ which are always in
The February 2017 issue of the magazine New Scientist carried a cover
story entitled Essence of Reality: The Search for the Most Fundamental
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made by Ward (2017) who comments on Hawking’s book The Grand
Design (2011). In his book, Hawking argues that space-time does not
come from nothing but comes from some non-material reality, which
Radin, 1997).
phenomena).
2008) and therefore both clients and therapists may have such
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of our current scientific understanding, cannot happen. They include
1980). Rhine achieved fame for his research in ESP (an acronym he
1993).
energy.
8 Precognition is knowledge of the future that does not have a logical,
predictable basis.
9 Psychokinesis is mental action affecting matter
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The field of psi phenomena is, however, controversial. Views are
instance, argues that all behaviour and all experiences are created by a
experience in the realm of the paranormal, she acknowledges that the psi
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ignorance and have to retain an open mind. To this, Sheldrake (2006)
says:
2014), he says:
founded in 1882, says on its website that it was the first scientific
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through research and education. It has two publications, one of them
likely that clients will have had such experiences, which may have
elicited responses ranging from awe to fearful distress, which they may
with Cameron (2016), who had the uninvited psi experience of visualising
chest. Cameron did not find that experience helpful. On the other hand
client, describes the psi phenomena, which she called ‘psychic resonance
clients using their gifts and knowledge. Tanous, describing his work in
psychotherapy, says:
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It can be assumed that when a person has an experience of the
paranormal, the evidence dispenses with the need for belief, as there is
2.7. Belief
‘beneath and prior to interpretation and the conflicts of meaning, lie sets
have been taught and arrived at’ (p.12). In other words, what we believe
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describes an embodied response which a sense of understanding can
elicit and which informs cognition. ‘To understand’, says Dewey (1997),
– a term used by Polanyi (2009) to indicate that ‘we can know more than
we can tell’ (p.4). William James (1896) expresses the view that optimism
in life and inner confidence are related to a positive belief aligned with
God, Everitt (2004) builds an argument around the theistic God, which
he describes along the lines of Freud (2008) as the ‘Father in the Sky’, to
show rationally how his existence cannot possibly be proven. God indeed
being. Taking this idea further, Professor Keith Ward says in his book
The Evidence for God (2014b), that ‘reason, while being an invaluable rule
perspective lie deeper in the human heart and mind than that’ (p.134).
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disposed towards deeper sets of values. Ward says that ‘the ‘disposition
which life – all life including human life – is meaningless. The other
1974), and ‘tacit knowing’ (Polanyi, 2009) and very much a ‘felt sense’
rational mind, but about which we can have an inkling through another
dimension of our being, sometimes called the heart, the soul or the spirit.
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2.7.1. Meaning
similar claim, pointing out that man is attracted by the unknown, and
live our lives. If death is indeed a door into some other kind of existence,
between this life and the next, within the familiar framework of cause and
effect. Moore (2017), indeed, theorises that the afterlife would make sense
worlds’.
implicated in the meaning we give it. Feifel (1977) tells us that ‘life’s
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Meaning in life is recognised as a major contributor to the experience of a
rewarding life. This view is supported by Scioli and Biller (2009), who tell
Under ‘meaning in life’ they include both personal and cosmic meaning.
framework of values and principles. The cosmic aspect refers to the belief
guiding force in the worst time’ (p.211). It is relevant to note that research
Proulx and Heine (2006), who developed what they call a ‘meaning
consciousness.
2.7.2. Hope
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‘hope is the sum of the mental power [agency] and waypower [pathways]
underestimated.
Exploring the nature of suffering, Cassell (2004) says that hope is ‘one of
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‘Terror management theory’ (Solomon et al., 2015) argues that this ‘evil
meaningful fulfilment.
With regard to the afterlife in specific, the value of hope is clear for Jung
(1967b). He says:
from one in which those points of reference are absent. Can there be an
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2.8. McGilchrist’s theory of worldviews – explaining the filters of
perception
In his magisterial work The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain
and the Making of the Western World, psychiatrist and English scholar
Curiosity about the two hemispheres of the brain goes back a long way.
Greek physicians in the 3rd century BCE speculated about it, although it
has never been really understood (McGilchrist, 2009). In the late 19th
‘On the Nature of the Duality of the Brain’ (Jackson, 1874) in which he
declared that the ‘left half of the brain is that by which we speak …
The idea that the brain hemispheres differ functionally held sway
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millennia past the human mind operated in a non-conscious way based
on a divided brain with separate functions: one part which spoke and the
However, rather than the hemispheres differing only by the nature of their
quality of man’s attention is the key to the meaning of our lives and the
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The crude, old ideas that logic and language are in the left, and
images and emotions in the right, were exploded long ago. Each
hemisphere is involved in absolutely everything we do. But it is
hardly a scientific response to throw one’s hands up in despair
as a result and dismiss the topic of hemisphere difference. One
needs to examine one’s thinking and see what it is one is
missing. As soon as one stops asking the question appropriate
to a machine – ‘what does it do?’ – and asks the question
appropriate to part of a person – ‘in what manner does it do
what it does?’ – the answer starts to become clearer. Differences
between the hemispheres in birds, animals and humans
ultimately relate to differences in attention, which have evolved
for clear reasons of survival. But since the nature of the
attention we bring to bear on the world changes what it is we
find there, and since what we find there influences the kind of
attention we pay in future, differences of attention are not just
technical, mechanical, issues, but have significant human
experiential and philosophical consequences. They change the
world we inhabit.
overall patterns, meanings and living things. It engages with the new and
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(electroencephalogram) recordings and functional neuroimaging. The core
of his findings is that the ‘nature of the attention that one brings to bear
its nature within the context in which it lies; and we can only ever
McGilchrist says that the right hemisphere is responsible for every kind of
interaction with whatever exists; it sees more of the whole picture. The
left hemisphere is analytical, rational, logical and conceptual and its role
is to analyse and evaluate rationally with the aim being ‘to make explicit’.
The author identifies the right hemisphere as the master and the left as
the emissary. The master views the bigger picture and needs the logic and
the emissary when the latter adopts the stance of being invulnerable and
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substituted for gathering of information and wisdom becomes
Western culture. His contention is that there were times in the history of
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of social disintegration which clearly derived from the effects of the
Industrial Revolution, but which could also be seen to have its roots in
that with the death of the body, the brain – and consciousness – is
impossibility.
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facilitated by the right hemisphere and scientia (derived from focused
For cultures, societies and individuals that see the world through right
and Carl Gustav Jung (1875-1961), included the concept of death in their
and Thanatos – the creative and the destructive instincts (Freud, 1964).
Thanatos was understood to have as its aim ‘to lead what is living into an
inorganic state’ (p.380). About death itself, comes the insight that ‘we
the corpses of loved ones and developing ideas about the soul surviving
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percolate into consciousness, making people feel immortal. The afterlife is
states that the need for religion, including belief in an afterlife, exists in
with left hemisphere-type science and materialism (Kelly & Kelly, 2007).
other – supernatural – means the lost appeal of life on this earth’ (cited in
the analyst is confronted with reports of ‘psi phenomena’, s/he will think
about the patient and the data in terms of psychoanalytical theory and
not entertain the possibility of those phenomena being valid in their own
right.
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Jung, however, had a different, more right hemisphere-type perspective.
for Psychical Research, 2008), we read that during a lecture given to the
Society for Psychical Research, Jung (1919) said, ‘I shall not commit the
experiences. His mother and cousin had mediumistic gifts, so this was
known territory for him. With regard to questions about what may
some sort of view about it’ (p.332). He further advises that this is a realm
phenomena and the afterlife. Others who can be mentioned are Roberto
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Frederic Myers (1843-1901), as well as scientists such as David Bohm
(1917–1992) and Sir Oliver Lodge (1851–1940) and some Nobel Prize
(as discussed above) following the Sanskrit saying ‘tat twam asi’ (‘I am
soul through the use of logic or rationality. ‘Logical proofs’, he says, ‘are
calls the ‘Solitary and Silent Center’ which in meditation apprehends the
of that experience is ‘not of an object being gone, but of the subject that
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‘here and now’13 orientation. Van Deurzen (1997) for instance, cites
(Nietzsche, 1988), van Deurzen suggests that repeating what we are and
what we do, over and over, and still relishing our fate, provides a secular
that our aim is to ‘open ourselves up to the destiny that is ours, rather
than trying to evade it’ (p.248). ‘Fate’ and ‘destiny’ in her proposal are
(Chambers, 2003).
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This perspective is shared by anthropologist Becker, who in 1974, won
the Pulitzer Prize for his book The Denial of Death (1973). In this book, he
culture, religion and society. This idea was taken forward by social
underlying everything we do, lies the terror about the inevitability of our
Marchesani, 1999).
Although popular, and certainly relevant for shining a light on the subject
however, not without its critics (e.g. Fessler & Navarrete, 2005,
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Kirkpatrick & Navarrete, 2006, Leary, 2004, Leary & Shreindorfer, 1997,
Navarrete & Fessler, 2005, Synder, 1997, Wisman & Heflick, 2016).
at some point in their life, and it is often a source of deep anxiety (Becker,
conscious awareness. It is also known, however, that these fears are not
Basoglu, Marks, Sengun, & Marks, 1995, Zimri, Hayley, Ramin, James, &
Igor, 2013). In such cases, the practitioner’s sensitivity to the subject will
be needed to tease out the fundamental issues which are causing the
phobia, panic attacks and obsessions (e.g. Bourne, 2015, Cisler, Olatunji,
& Lohr, 2009, Milosevic & McCabe, 2015, Orsillo, 2011, Rhona, 2017,
the professional literature found scarce reference to the link between fear
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Similarly, Bennett-Carpenter (2014) found the literature on
does not mention the issue of after-death existence, this is, as discussed
given thought to this subject. In this respect, Rowan and Jacobs (2002)
which they mean ‘genuine’ and generally aware of their own being. Having
clients in mind, they say that when we are with an inauthentic person, ‘it
statement to therapy clients, we can see that it has implications for the
safety and freedom that are offered around disclosure of their most
therapists can be said to take on some of the roles which are the province
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confront their own issues around death as part of the therapist’s process
(Baldwin, 2013).
Ideas about the afterlife vary across the spiritual traditions, but the
within the Christian and Islamic traditions. Although the strength of this
narrative has declined in the 21st century, Hailparn and Hailparn (1994)
tell us that the Catholic patient might bring to therapy, challenging issues
sins’, which carry the risk of eternal damnation. In particular, people who
religion, where the threat of eternal punishment in the afterlife may have
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been the means to ensure compliance, may present very specific issues
(Yao, 1987) refers to the sense of loss, confusion and isolation from which
ideas have more easily been able to permeate the Western psyche, and
researchers of note in this field are the late Professor Ian Stevenson
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Iceland, who with James G. Matlock published, I Saw a Light and Came
endlessly into the future, manifesting in actions of body, speech and mind
that create further mental habit patterns, on and on’ (p.205). Karma is
actions and attitudes may have influenced what happens in this life. The
consequence is that issues which may be afflicting a client may not have
the main professional bodies of the UKCP (United Kingdom Council for
Association, 2015). Affiliated therapists offer their services, and there are
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a number of books available on the market (e.g. Binder, 1992, Linn,
Amongst the many books on this theme, is that of the Jungian analyst,
attitudes in past lives affect one’s current life, and current actions and
attitudes will affect future lives in a karmic cycle. This view is aligned
1999). Woolger’s (1987) work with patients’ perceived ‘past lives’ put them
diverse of these past lives, however, he says, are part of their psychic
and what this may mean regarding issues brought to counselling and
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psychotherapy, Peres (2012) asks the question, ‘Should psychotherapy
acknowledges that the market is unregulated and that anyone can call
search for ‘death and dying’ in Google Scholar will yield over 1.6 million
Feifel was a psychologist and joined the US Army in 1942. After the
Second World War the subject of death was considered taboo, and was
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paradigm and edited two major works on the subject, The Meaning of
Death (1959) and New Meanings of Death (1977), which featured the
The nature of the psyche reaches into obscurities far beyond the
scope of our understanding. …. So if anyone should draw the
conclusion that the psyche, in its deepest reaches, participates
in a form of existence beyond space and time, and thus
partakes of what is inadequately and symbolically described as
“eternity” – the critical reason could counter with no other
argument than the non liquet of science (Jung cited in Feifel,
1959, p.14).
another major figure in the field of death studies. He founded the journal
OMEGA: Journal of Death and Dying (SAGE) and published amongst other
books, Is There Life after Death (1984), The Psychology of Death (2000)
and Macmillan Encyclopedia of Death and Dying (2003). Since then, much
literature about death and dying has been published, including academic
since 1996. Most of that literature deals with processes, events and
15Note that Peter Koestenbaum and Robert Kastenbaum are two different
authors.
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attitudes up to the moment of death by the dying and with bereavement
issues for the people left behind. Very little deals with concepts and ideas
Ross, who worked with dying people, wrote a book called The Tunnel and
the Light: Essential Insights on Living and Dying (1999), in which she
describes her experiences with dying patients and what she saw were
visions. She also wrote the book On Life after Death (1991), in which she
refers to her experiences with those patients and argues her belief that
(1993) and Dawkins (2017), and others who are more accepting that near-
16
Near-death experiences involve the mind leaving the body and
‘travelling’ to what is understood to be a separate realm usually
interpreted as an afterlife.
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locality of consciousness, meaning that the mind interacts with the brain
arrest during which she had an out-of-body experience in which she saw
what was going on in the room, and could later describe it accurately to
the surgeons involved (Fontana, 2010). Other similar cases have been
of post-mortem existence, this idea has its place in the collective psyche.
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2.12. The gap addressed by this research
psychotherapy.
and is present in the social activities of ‘death cafés’ which are popular in
many of the major cities around the world. What is addressed less in the
consciousness.
experience with his own therapist in the US, he argues that it is crucial
for psychotherapists to talk and write about dealing with their own future
death, both for themselves and their patients. But he does not touch on
the topic of his therapist’s view of what may happen after death.
& Lee, 2019), based at the University of Kent, found that a high
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orientation, such as supernatural phenomena, life after death,
reincarnation, destiny and astrology. The study ran between 2017 and
2019 with the aim of understanding atheism and other forms of ‘unbelief’
in six countries (the UK, the US, Brazil, Denmark, China and Japan).
(2012, 2015). The author notes that a number of scholarly books had
recently been published on the topic of the afterlife (Casey 2009, Eire
2010, Fontana 2009, Miller 2010, all cited in Singleton, 2015), although
few studies addressing this subject have been undertaken. In his studies
mortem consciousness (e.g. Carr & Sharp, 2014, Heflick et al., 2015, Lee,
2016, Sumegi, 2014), and Garrett (2015) sets out to demonstrate the
need to take into account the cultural baggage that clients/patients bring
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with Bohart (2000) that clients, rather than therapists, are the agents of
for those people who believe in reincarnation and have a sense that their
between true and false memories as both can be recalled with equal
It follows from the above, therefore, that thoughts regarding what may
happen after their personal death will have occurred to both therapist
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may determine how this topic will be processed. On this, no research has
been found.
2.13. Conclusion
the ideas of Plato and Aristotle, which have had repercussions down the
ages to the present times. Today, they reflect the spiritual and the
the world which comes into being for each of us, determining our ontology
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looked at psi or the paranormal, which Moore (2017) identifies as possible
consciousness.
This chapter also covered the topic of death in psychology and considered
It made the point that death anxiety is likely to include anxiety about
what may happen after death which may be brought overtly or covertly to
The next chapter will describe the methodology used in this research.
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Chapter 3 – Methodology and Methods
3.1. Overview
This chapter will describe and explain the methodology and methods
used in this study. It will offer a rationale for the choices made and
analysis step by step, to show how the results and findings were reached.
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see death as a portal into some other kind of conscious experience (see
Figure 1).
this study orient themselves towards this question and the implications
3.3. Methodology
17Worldview means ‘a basic set of beliefs that guide action’ (Guba, 1990,
p.17), it is also understood as ‘paradigm’ (Guba & Lincoln in Denzin &
Lincoln, 2005, p.191) or for Crotty (1998) it is epistemology (p.8).
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method (e.g. Braun & Clarke, 2013, Creswell, 2014, Crotty, 1998,
Postpositivism Constructivism
• Determinism • Understanding
• Reductionism • Multiple participant meanings
• Empirical observation and • Social and historical
measurement construction
• Theory verification • Theory generation
Transformative Pragmatism
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Evaluating these approaches for this research, I arrived at the following
experience of living and working with these views, this is not a suitable
methodology.
because a social and political framework is not the primary focus of the
favour of the last type proposed by Creswell, which felt more suitable.
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The pragmatic worldview is not concerned with particular methods but
the nature of truth, argued that ‘a belief is true when it is the product of
and context’ (cited in Hickman, Neubert, & Reich, 2009, p.12). This
data. Yardley and Bishop (2008) point out that quantitative methods are
useful because they have high levels of ‘internal validity’, which means
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• Researchers have freedom of choice in terms of the methods,
and purposes.
for this research, permitting the use of mixed methods to explore the
cause and effect. As with all other research techniques it aims to acquire
which the research takes place (Frost, 2016). This means that the
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‘unconsciousness’ in the engagement, to allow elements of surprise or the
unexpected to show themselves in the data. This, the author argues, will
allow the researcher to see things in the data which s/he may not
In their book The Art of Inquiry, Coppin and Nelson (2005) use different
process. He says:
I want to emphasize that when one keeps soul in mind in the re-
search process, one is called into a work by something other
than one’s intentions. This something other is what I described
…. as the unfinished business in the soul of the work, the
unsaid weight of history in the work that waits to be said. (p.63)
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This intuitive approach felt congruent with my own way of being and was
colleague and friend and was engaged in writing a book on the use of
projects. I was used as a guinea pig and, upon her request, developed an
structures – favelas. The message I took from it was that I needed to dig
further down to ensure the focus was solid and the project would make a
and tall building covered in dark glass preventing anyone from looking in.
Intuitively, I felt that the project already existed and I needed to uncover it
– along the lines of the idea that a sculpture exists inside the stone
waiting for the sculptor to chip the surplus away. For some time in my
imagery, I was not permitted entry to the building, until at some point –
once I had submitted my first chapter – I was allowed in. I could then
the research – not religious figures), and felt that I gained a degree of
clarity and direction. I generally feel that my research benefitted from the
experience.
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3.4. Methods
This study asked the question: ‘How do therapists’ beliefs about post-
mortem consciousness influence their work with clients?’ along with the
sub questions, ‘What are their beliefs?’, ‘How do they understand their
beliefs?’ and ‘Do they influence their work with clients and if so, how?’
the pragmatist approach of Creswell (2014), the first part was a survey
Online surveys first started to be used in the mid-1990s and have since
then been growing in popularity. The low cost involved, the proliferation
of survey platforms and the potential for high distribution make online
& Miller, 2008). The flexibility of surveys lies in their analytical facilities
surveys provide anonymity for respondents (Braun & Clarke, 2013) and
the attraction of being available at all times. Van Selm and Jankowski
thumb that ‘the longer the questionnaire, the less likely people will
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respond’ (p.441). They found that a plain, simple questionnaire provided
different in the way it is conducted. Denzin and Lincoln (2005) use the
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methods, s/he can do that. It is also a method that can be ongoing,
different tools and methods to what Denzin and Lincoln (2005) call the
Hesse-Biber (2010a) points out that mixed methods can fulfil three
qualitatively are used to examine the same aspect via two different
question (Hesse-Biber et al., 2015). The results of the survey are used to
inform or raise questions about the research problem, rather than simply
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As further support for this design, Morse (2015) explains that a mixed-
methods strategy of the kind used in this study can broaden the scope,
increase the depth and possibly increase the dimensions of a project. The
two types of data are brought together with a view to providing a broader
The two parts of this study were nested: the qualitative part was nested
the time that the survey was open, I was conducting interviews with the
The survey was designed to provide a context within which the semi-
anonymous, the only criterion was that they be accredited by the UKCP
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(the United Kingdom Counselling for Psychotherapy) or the BACP (the
the interviews and the free text comments were useful in the synthesis
developed in chapter 8.
The survey itself was composed of two parts: one part offered multiple-
engaged with this survey, thought about the issue of death and post-
mortem existence. Some of the survey data could have been statistically
analysed, but this was not viewed as being within the remit of this study.
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think about this issue. The criteria for participation included no
either of the UK’s two relevant professional bodies: the UKCP (the United
approach in that it is simply a method for data analysis (Braun & Clarke,
frameworks, rather than prescribing only one. Its flexibility makes it one
all other qualitative methods of analysing data. It was suitable for this
In thematic analysis, the data can be analysed inductively (from the raw
1998). I analysed the data from the three open-ended questions in two
stages. In the first stage I did so inductively, allowing the voices of the
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views (Walker et al., 2008). In the second stage, I went deeper into the
data and coded the themes in relation to one particular question in the
Themes were identified within the context of the questions asked in the
survey and the meaning they had for me, the researcher. Boyatzis (1998)
they reside in the data. If they exist anywhere, they exist in the head of
the researcher (Braun & Clarke, 2006). My intention with the themes I
reflecting the contents of the entire data set of the comments made by
The promotion of the survey was not an easy task. I approached the two
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as my aim was to reach experienced accredited professionals rather than
LinkedIn group and the online Notice Board of the BACP. In addition, I
journal of the Scientific and Medical Network and The Journal of Critical
chance that people may have done the survey more than once, but I find
that unlikely.
Out of the 103 people who completed the survey, 37 expressed a desire to
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3.6.2. Survey data collection and analysis
For this survey, I used a tool provided by the University of Chester which
at the time was called Bristol Online Surveys and is now called Jisc. It is
The first step was to run a pilot, which allowed me to refine the questions
for the final version. The questions were mainly demographic with three
free-text fields for people to leave their comments. The pilot was
tweak some of the questions based on the feedback in the comments. The
in mind Selm and Jankowski’si (2006) admonitions that the longer the
questionnaire, the fewer people will be inclined to engage with it. The
their thoughts.
the context of the survey and invited honest replies, explaining that the
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Because I wanted to have as large a sample as possible, the survey was
left open from March 2016 to July 2018, but no replies were entered
The aim of the survey was to collect data from anonymous professional
1. Age
2. Sex
a. Male /female
3. Professional orientation
a. Psychoanalytical/psychodynamic
b. Person-centred
c. Humanistic/integrative
d. Transpersonal/Jungian
e. Cognitive-behavioural
f. Other
4. Religious affiliation
a. Christian
b. Jewish
c. Moslem
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e. Spiritual but not religious (SBNR)
f. None
h. Other
identity (who you know yourself to be) survives? (options: ‘yes’, ‘no’,
‘don’t know’)
7. If you could have a choice, would you like there to be life or some
know’)
8. Do these questions have an influence in the way you live your life?
9. If you answered yes to the question above, can you briefly say how?
(free text)
10. Do these questions have an influence in the way you work with
11. If you answered yes to the question above, can you briefly say how?
(free text)
12. Do you find it difficult to discuss the possibility of life after death
with people whose views you don’t know? (options: ‘yes’, ‘no’)
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3.6.3.1. Cross-tabulation
The central point of interest for this survey, was question 5: ‘Do you
therapeutic orientation was more like to reply ‘yes’, or whether there was
responses.
how they impact on their work with clients. The last question, ‘Final
pertinent to one of the first two questions, and in those cases they were
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Once the survey was closed, I copied all the responses into a Word
(Braun & Clarke, 2013). The next step was to import them into NVivo,
the software I chose to help with the analysis. Although the data to be
analysed were not enormous, I felt NVivo could be a useful tool (Palys &
The sets of the data relating to the two questions were imported into the
‘files’ section of NVivo and from there transferred into ‘nodes’. Nodes are
three nodes contained the total comments of each of the three free-text
fields.
researcher. The inductive approach allows the data to speak for itself, the
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and allowed the themes to form inductively. In the second iteration I used
My next step was to read and re-read the comments until I was ready to
construct the themes. Once the themes had been constructed, I inserted
are what are traditionally known as ‘codes’. On the right-hand side was
the transcript of the text. I then went down the text highlighting
particular passages which related to the first code and pasted them into
the first child-node. Once I had gone through the whole transcript, I went
back to the start and did the same for all the child-nodes or codes
identified. Once this process was complete, I looked at all the codes and
codes lent themselves to be incorporated into others and found that the
analysis and someone else might have analysed the texts differently. In
this respect, Willig (2013) states that the inductive approach can involve
a degree of interpretation.
In this way, I found the following codes for the two main questions:
a. Meaning/Hope
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b. Accountability/responsibility
Do these questions influence
the way you live your life? c. Life as learning opportunity
d. Existence as a mystery
e. Anxiety
f. Miscellaneous
a. Client awareness
b. Practitioners’ transparency
Do these questions influence
the way you work with clients? c. Spiritual awareness
d. Karmic awareness
e. Secular awareness
f. Interesting reflections
about what happens after death influenced the way they lived their lives
(76.70%) and the way they worked with clients (69.90%), irrespective of
approach (Willig, 2013) and examine the answers given in the survey by
people who replied ‘yes’, ‘no’ and ‘don’t know’ to question 5 – ‘Do you
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The survey tool allowed me to fix the answers of people who replied ‘yes’
to question 5 and examine the replies to all other questions against this
parameter. The same was possible for ‘no’ and ‘don’t know’. The following
• death anxiety;
• ethical considerations.
The analysis of the deductively created codes followed the same steps as
precise and consistent manner and they need to disclose the methods of
Nowell, Norris, White, and Moules (2017) propose the following criteria to
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3.7.1. Credibility
This addresses the ‘fit’ (p.3) between the respondents’ views as expressed,
3.7.2. Transferability
3.7.3. Dependability
This relates to the idea that the process must be logical, traceable and
clearly documented.
3.7.4. Confirmability
This aspect requires that the interpretation and findings of the research
To these four requirements, Nowell et al. (2017) added the audit trail.
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3.7.5. Audit Trail
For an audit trail Nowell et al. (2017) suggest keeping records of the raw
provide readers with the evidence of the decisions and choices made by
the researcher. A reflexive journal is central to the audit trail. It helps the
his/her worldview affect the research process (Morrow, 2005). All those
records were kept for this study, including the reflexive journal.
Bergman and Coxon (2005) are clear that rather than strict criteria in
trust that a study and its findings are credible. Criteria must exist but
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3.8. Stage 2: the semi-structured interviews
London. I offered participants the choice of where they would like to meet
and four opted to come to my house. I met four in their homes and two in
Skype, replacing two people who dropped out late in the process.
• aged 50 or over;
• fluent in English;
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In the second part of this research, I wanted to explore the impact that
practitioners and their work with clients. For this reason, I established
The age limit was chosen because in the second half of life, thoughts are
come after.
adequate training and were likely to have worked with mortality issues in
2018.
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3.8.3.1. Fred
Age 64, practising for 15 years and accredited by the UKCP. Has training
past. Was keen to participate and came to my house in London for the
interview.
3.8.3.2. Claire
Age 59, practising for 10 years accredited by the UKCP. Works in private
interview.
3.8.3.3. Paul
Age 65, practising for 22 years and accredited by the UKCP. Works in
Interviewed by Skype.
3.8.3.4. Daniel
Society, the UKCP and the BACP. Works in private practice, describes
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3.8.3.5. Laura
Age 63, practising for over 10 years and is accredited by the UKCP.
London.
3.8.3.6. Joan
Age 56, practising for 16 years and accredited by the BACP. Works in
3.8.3.7. Sally
Age 73, practising for 25 years, and is accredited by the BACP. Works in
London.
3.8.3.8. Rachel
Age 50, practising for 11 years and accredited by the BACP. Works in
her fear-based beliefs. Left the community and today calls herself SBNR.
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Came from the North of England on a day-return train ticket to be
3.8.3.9. Carol
Age 57, practising for 11 years and accredited by the BACP. Works in a
Chester.
3.8.3.10. Kim
Age 58, practising for 17 years and accredited by the BACP. Trained in
3.8.3.11. Dianna
Age 71, practising for 20 years and is accredited by the BACP. Has an
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A doula is a practitioner who supports a woman and her family through
pregnancy and the birth of her baby. A death doula is a practitioner who
helps a dying person before and during the death process.
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3.8.3.12. Sylvia
Age 70, practising for 32 years and is accredited by the UKCP. Works
3.8.4. Interviews
they could prepare, but upon reflection I decided not to do this, opting for
myself. I then explained again the nature of the research, which they had
read about first in the Participants’ Information Sheet. I was aware that
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sensitive topic for some people, it did not seem to bring about an
withdrawing silence from her for some time plus repeated uncertain
emails before the final commitment. A third person confessed at the start
of the interview, that he had not realised the research was about views
spirituality in therapy. Yet this same person had at the start of the email
indicated that the exploration of this topic can put some people in touch
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3.8.4.1. Interview schedule
Introduction
Why you are interested in this research?
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3.8.4.1.1 Why are you interested in this research?
With this question I wanted to find out the attitude participants had
believe in reincarnation, or whether they think after their death they will
framework used for understanding events in their lives within the context
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3.8.4.1.5 What impact on the work with clients?
own encounters with other people’s death, as well as their beliefs about
else that may have emerged for them, which they may have thought of
This would have been congruent with the analysis of the survey free
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face-to-face interviews, which gave me the opportunity to ask questions
also considered narrative analysis on the basis that exploring the views
of therapists on what happens after death would reveal the story they
identities through the stories and their telling. This, I did not consider
their role in therapy. Grounded theory would also not have been a
suitable method for this research since it aims to enable new theories to
interpretations are made, and these are then checked against further
achieved (Charmaz & Henwood, 2008). This study did not look to make
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3.8.5.2. The chosen method
phenomenology means:
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This means that bracketing one’s bias as proposed by Husserl can only
vision that the person who is trying to understand must have’ (p.304).
This ‘superior breadth of vision’ not only provides a wider context for
the movement back and forth between the overall interpretation of a text
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(Dreyfuss, 1991). Addressing the hermeneutic circle, I looked to analyse
asking – how they viewed themselves and their work with clients against
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the particular participant is like. Sample numbers are typically small and
(12) than would have been usual in this kind of design. Nevertheless, the
Although I used NVivo to analyse the thematic aspect of this research, for
the IPA the analysis was carried out by hand, which I found allowed me
to get a better ‘feel’ for the themes I identified. I kept the idiographic
separately.
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3.9. Analysis
3.9.1. Procedure
I printed the transcripts with 1.5 line spacing and with large margins on
both sides of the page. I then read the first transcript several times. I
found that it was when I stopped looking for pointers I expected to find
and read the transcripts with an open mind that I was able to register the
underlined texts that I felt were of interest and wrote comments in the
s/he was addressing at the time. At this stage I was not engaging in deep
After the first phase of the procedure, I went back to the same transcript
the text would feel more deeply important and I would add to the
comments. I was engaging more closely with the data and focusing on
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3.9.1.1.1 Descriptive
describe theirs.
3.9.1.1.2 Linguistic
These notes identified what I felt may have been significant in the way a
nature of the subject being explored, I noted particular words which felt
used.
3.9.1.1.3 Conceptual
2009, p.89). This level of coding frequently led me to focus in and out of
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3.9.1.2. Developing emergent themes
Still working on the first transcript, once I had completed the notation
stage I shifted to working analytically with the notes, rather than with the
interview in mind. Smith et al. (2009) point out that as the analyst
this stage of the analysis involved more of me, in the way that I chose
The first transcript I analysed was of the last interview, by which time I
felt that what I had learned from all the previous interviews gave me a
the idiographic principle of IPA in mind, I had an open mind, looking for
new themes with each new transcript I analysed. For each transcript I
repeated the same steps as for the first analysis and noted the emergent
themes in the same way. At all stages I evaluated the statements in the
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transcript, aware of the hermeneutic circle and bearing in mind the
Once this was complete, I printed all the emergent themes out with
plenty of space between them and cut them out. I then looked for the
the emergent themes I had cut out one by one and grouped all those
which I felt ‘belonged’ together. This was a time-consuming task as, with
a lot of patience, I arranged and rearranged the themes until I was happy
that they did indeed belong together, thus creating a subordinate theme.
once I had finished this exercise, I was happy that the subordinate
subordinate themes, the second also has three and the third has five.
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3.10. Validity in IPA
had as the process evolved were helpful when I engaged in the double
possible.
Fischer, & Rennie, 2010), so I sent the transcripts to each participant for
confirming the transcripts to have been congruent with what had been
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3.11. Ethical considerations
Ethical approval for this study was given by the Ethics Committee of the
codes of ethics of the professional associations (in her case the American
event, such blurring did not occur as, on the one hand, during the
focus closely on topics related to the research question, and, on the other
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possible and the participation criteria were listed. They were told that
their names and identities would remain anonymous and that they could
it was unlikely to happen, they were also told that should the interview
practitioners in their area. They signed a consent form on the day of the
interview.
3.12. Reflections
(Aponte & Winter, 2013, Frost, 2016, Lum, 2002, Rowan & Jacobs, 2002)
in the same way that, in therapy, the therapist is the instrument of that
to me, in terms of the years it has been incubating and the thinking I
and the fears associated with them. On other occasions, the exploration
and other anxieties, and this identification is met with surprise by the
not always consciously aware that they may be at the root of those
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clients’ post-mortem ideas – that of paranormal experiences. One client
actions by her dead mother’s spirit. She did not find it easy to tell me
this, and only did so when she became convinced that I had an open
mind. With another client who was newly pregnant, I had the distinct
feeling that her dead mother-in-law was present in the room, and I
sensed profound gratitude for this new baby. I felt able to tell the client
an open mind during the interviews by being fully attentive and present
in the moment. During the data analysis stages, I was also careful to
happens after death impact their work with clients. In the early process
that the topic of post-mortem consciousness was often met with covert
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cynical dismissal, or even disbelief, by people with whom I shared my
times multiplied by the fact that I found it so difficult to get the survey
disseminated. This led me to leave the survey open for over two years. I
feel the lack of replies was connected in some way with those difficulties.
I have reflected on the nature of the people who answered the survey and
many people looked at the research and passed it by? What reflections
might people who came across the research (whether they did or not
With regard to the interviews, I found that the participants were deeply
identified almost a need to talk about it on their part, which had the feel
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of a confession. It was as if being free to talk about their spirituality, their
limitation which for them felt constraining. I was also interested to note
Reflecting back on the interviews, I can see that I could, at times, have
clients.
trustworthiness both in the thematic analysis of the survey and the IPA
the reader to clearly follow the process and confirm it as valid. I have also
kept the records of the raw data, my notes and developed a reflexive
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For the IPA part of the analysis immersion in the data from the interviews
Some of the comments on the survey were gratifyingly relevant to, and
supportive of, the study and many of the interviewees expressed their
appreciation for the rare opportunity to think and talk about their views
3.13. Conclusion
This chapter described the methodology used in this study and how it
the mixed-methods research design and all the stages of data gathering
The next chapter will set out the findings of the survey.
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Chapter 4 - Survey Findings
4.1. Overview
This chapter will describe the findings from the online survey, in which
103 people took part. Some of these data were analysed quantitatively,
to allow the raw data to ‘speak’, and secondly deductively to identify the
4.2. Demographics
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Figure 3 – Age distribution of participants
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Figure 5 – Professional distribution of all participants.
The religious affiliation of the sample shows that just over 22% described
conscious experience after death?’, 52.4% said ‘yes’, 28.2 % said ‘no’ and
19.4%, ‘don’t know (Figure 10). For practical reasons, I shall call
‘no’, and ‘don’t knows’, people who replied ‘don’t know’ to question 5
(Figure 10).
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Figure 7 – Belief in post-mortem consciousness
Of the people who believe in some kind of life after death, only 26.2% had
a firm belief that identity does not survive death. (Figure 11)
guided in their actions by the belief that these will influence their afterlife
in some way. They may also have beliefs in life before birth, although this
Out of the total 103 participants, almost 77% confirmed that these
questions influence the way they live their lives (Figure 12).
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Figure 9 – Responses on post-mortem consciousness influencing life
expand on their views and offer comments on three questions. The first
question asked was ‘Do these questions have an influence in the way you
live your life?’. The second asked ‘Do these questions have an influence
in the way you work with clients?’. The third question invited final
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4.4. Do these questions have an influence in the way you live your
life?
• meaning/hope;
• accountability/responsibility;
• existence as a mystery;
• anxiety;
• miscellaneous.
4.4.1. Meaning/hope
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Another linked the concept of post-mortem consciousness to bringing
It gives life meaning. Knowing that life is eternal and that the
material world is only a small fraction of the Universe, puts
things in perspective.
For some it was comforting to have hope for consciousness after death:
and the fact that some people, the mystics of many faiths, have achieved
The questions about what happens after death were also understood as
said:
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By living an ethical and truthful life NOW, appreciating the
beauty and complexity of the world. Having an end makes it sad
but sweeter.
life at every moment. His/her comment that it makes the end sad but
My belief that this life ‘is it’ – and my awareness of how finite
(and precious) life is, supports me to try and live each day
meaningfully with humbleness and to ‘make every day count’.
intimated that the preciousness in life lies with living meaningfully with
humbleness, focusing on what we can know (i.e., the here and now).
4.4.2. Accountability/responsibility
are responsible in life for our choices and their consequences. One
person said:
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I think there is something about accountability – to ourselves and
to our fellow humans – in the way we live our lives, in the
collective unconscious. Or maybe I would like there to be …
The last sentence, ‘or maybe I would like there to be’, betrays a doubt as
I feel I will be held accountable for the choices I make at the end of
my life as well as throughout it.
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4.4.3. Life as a learning opportunity
may be through his/her life or it could involve future lives. Most of the
other comments involved the idea of lessons learned with a view to future
I believe Life is for learning and that we take that learning on with
us when our physical bodies are no longer here.
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The belief in reincarnation expressed here calls upon the individual to
person said:
A sense of awe in the face of the unknown was expressed almost with
comment:
I love the mystery of not knowing for sure ... how can I? Nothing
is certain in life or in death.
Whereas this next person expresses his/her deeply felt interest in the
human condition and addresses the mystery with deference, s/he talks
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of having experience of different worlds and dimensions, indicating the
Living in and with the mystery of existence requires a degree of trust and
4.4.5. Anxiety
A few people talked about the anxiety that these issues cause. One
person said:
It’s something I worry about a lot, it’s with me every day – does
death mean the end of everything and if so, how can one live
with that knowledge because it’s a terrible thought!
For some people the idea of the finality of life is difficult to accept and is a
source of stress. How prevalent these fears are is an open question, but it
expressed the kind of anxiety which may well also be present, even if
I hope there is life after death but not knowing for sure is
stressful!
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From this other person, there was a comment about the inner tension
death and what may come after for us in the profession of counselling
and psychotherapy.
4.4.6. Miscellaneous
People are happy to talk about birth but find death difficult, yet it
is in the same life cycle.
I am not aware yet how they influence me, but I am aware that
these beliefs are in my thoughts [and] have some kind of impact
of who I am and how I act.
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The use of the word ‘yet’ is interesting, as it points to some future when
existence.
with clients?
This question was the second free-text field in the survey and 67 out of
percent of the people who participated in the survey confirmed that these
questions do indeed influence the way they work with clients. This is a
high percentage considering that 52,4% believe in life after death, 28.2%
• client awareness;
• practitioner’s awareness
• spiritual awareness;
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• karmic awareness;
• secular awareness;
• interesting reflections.
I respect whatever faith or none that a client may have and will
work with and within their personal belief system.
expressions of the psyche and soul are non-rational but not irrational.
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Death anxiety and what happens after death is something I’m
conscious many clients struggle with too. I try to stay open to them
and their struggle as I stay open to my own.
subject this is in the context of the cooperative nature of the dyadic work
in therapy.
Hearing the client without judgement was the most popular topic which
work.
person said:
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I cannot help but bracket my belief system. I am sure though that
non-verbally I communicate something of this however much I try
to work to overcome the bias and never to self-disclose.
Peeling the onion of beliefs relevant to this research and how they affect
Another person was more specific in how the spiritual framework can
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A couple of people left comments indicating their intimate connection
I am guided by Spirit.
of these includes the idea of this life being part of a bigger journey of
birth and one after death. A few people pointed to this awareness and
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This perspective entails working with clients in a way which is very
different from the way therapists who are informed by secular beliefs will
This response indicates certainty about the finality of life which requires
Because of the nature of the questions, some people left some interesting
observations.
saying:
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It helps me to value the depth of patterns in human behaviour
and confirms the belief that self-understanding is a fundamental
part of life.
betrays a view which may translate negatively in the work with clients.
S/he said:
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open to clients for whom the questions and the answers reside more
relation to the finality of his/her life and the expectation that this is
Sections 4.4 and 4.5 looked at the data as analysed inductively, allowing
the themes to be constructed from all the comments in the three open-
Because of the nature of this research and my interest in finding out how
beliefs in what happens after death impact the participants’ lives and
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experience after death?’) and analysed the respondents’ comments left in
the three free-text fields, in relation to whether they answered ‘yes’, ‘no’
the three open-ended fields – ‘Do these questions influence the way you
live your life?’ – ‘Do these questions influence the way you work with
knows’. Some of the quotes below have already been mentioned in the
section above but are used here within the emphasis on this particular
context.
The age distribution of the people who believe in life after death in this
survey shows that just over 72% were aged over 50 (Figure 14).
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This conforms with the interview participation criteria, where the lowest
age required was 50. It also points to the fact that what happens after
towards their later years. One person who does not believe in life after
Just over 83% of ‘believers’ said these beliefs influence the way they live
Furthermore, 63% confirmed these beliefs also influence the way they
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With regard to professional orientation, Figure 17 shows the distribution
of people who replied ‘yes’ to whether they believe in life after death
(52.4%).
Compared with the total responses (see Figure 8 in section 4.2.), the
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Figure 15 – Religious affiliation of ‘believers’
recognition for the purpose of this study – out of the people who believe
in some kind of conscious experience after death, just over 24% are
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Figure 17 – Religious affiliation of ‘non-believers’
Of the people who do not believe in life after death, just over 62%
confirmed that these questions about what happens after life influence
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Figure 19 – Do questions on post-mortem consciousness influence
the lives of ‘non-believers’?
Furthermore, over 72% confirmed that these questions influence the way
• death anxiety;
• ethical considerations.
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Knowing that life is eternal and that the material world is only a
small fraction of the Universe, puts things in perspective.
Does it mean that ‘things are not necessarily what they appear to be’?
I love the mystery of not knowing for sure ... how can I? Nothing
is certain in life or in death.
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This person expressed one way of managing personal obstacles and
It makes me aware that there's more to life than what we can see
which makes the hardships of life more bearable.
the narrative of reincarnation is the idea that actions in one life will affect
Another comment referred to the belief that the aim of life is positive
evolution:
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This person mentioned the context in which s/he sees this life. Other
people mentioned their concerns for future lives. This person, for
instance, said:
One other person mentioned the idea that our current life and its
said:
issues, and the attitude of the practitioner. This person has this in mind
in his/her work:
Not many people left comments referring to their beliefs within the
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who, in a different way, also sees actions in this life affecting what comes
The subject of responsibility for actions in life also found its voice in the
comments from the respondents. The idea of an afterlife finds its anchor
His/her last comment – ‘or maybe I would like there to be’ – seems to
perspective.
The other aspect of living in the bigger picture, came from some
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Another person just said:
This active relationship with the transcendental also reveals itself in the
I often ask for spirit help (mentally) Frequently clients share the
same beliefs.
sense that having a focus on the present rather than the future, helps
with finding meaning in the ‘here’ and ‘now’. The expression used was
‘making the most of it’, which is colloquially much used and understood
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but still, in this context, begs the question: what is ‘it’ and what is meant
Only have one short life. Helps me to make the most of it.
Here the ‘it’ is clearly the one short life, but ‘making the most of it’ is not
clear. It could mean ‘being the best person you could be’ or it could mean
comment?
My belief that this life ‘is it’ – and my awareness of how finite
(and precious) life is supports me to try and live each day
meaningfully, with humbleness and to ‘make every day count’.
Here it is clear that the person had moral and ethical principles in mind.
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Anchored in the here and now ... letting go of the desire for
perfection, or some spiritual completion, letting go of divine
retribution, spiritual mountain climbing, manifest in many
spiritual systems ...
ideas about working with clients shows their commitment to the here and
may come after death was expressed by some contributors to this survey.
It’s something I worry about a lot, it's with me every day – does
death mean the end of everything, and if so, how can one live
with that knowledge, because it's a terrible thought.
I found out that this person replied ‘don’t know’ to question 5, and
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I hope there is life after death, but not knowing for sure is stressful
mutual despair.
acknowledges the struggle clients may have with what happens after
death:
anxiety and specifically anxiety about what may happen after death in
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4.6.4. Ethical considerations
respondents that they work with what clients bring rather than through
I hope to help all clients deal with their ideas of death through
their own framework. Therefore, I do not push my views on
anyone, whether they believe in an afterlife or not.
This next comment goes further; the respondent states that their
approach is to work with a client’s issue at its face value, rather than
said:
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I cannot help but bracket my belief system. I am sure that non-
verbally, I communicate something of this however much I try to
work to overcome the bias and never to self-disclose.
thoughts and replies. The last space was an open question and invited
One of the most interesting (for me) comments left was the following:
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experience', not even as an area of apparently valid human
experience. Similarly when being inducted as a Cruse volunteer
and later as a supervisor there was no reference to this. I found
this astonishing for regardless of their own point of view I would
have thought that practitioners should be prepared for clients to
bring anomalous or so-called paranormal experiences since these
are by no means uncommon round bereavement.
Pointing out the existence of bona fide material suggestive of the survival
Another comment which goes to the core of this research was this:
The recognition that the underlying feelings are there, whether we talk
about them or not is an important insight into its importance for the
Someone else pointed to one of the potential reasons why clients may not
bring their anxiety about death and what may come after into therapy.
S/he said:
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I see this as an important insight, which identifies the contemporary
create difficulties for clients who have personal experiences that validate
their beliefs.
the gender section, which would have given the survey extra richness.
Someone else also pointed out the flaw in grouping Eastern religions into
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Just FYI – I am slightly uncomfortable with your 'Eastern'
category for religion, I would prefer a generic ‘other’ and then
have a chance to say which religion in a box below. I realise there
are too many religions for you to name each one. However,
Hindus are quite busy trying to stamp out Buddhist religious
practice in India as it threatens the oppressive caste system
there, so I didn’t like feeling ‘lumped in’ with them – and frankly,
a generic category of 'Eastern' seems to fall in to the Western
myth Edward Said called ‘Orientalism’. Christianity is an Eastern
religion too, you know – at least in origin.
Positive remarks were also left about the research. One person said
simply:
There was also this endorsement from someone else, who said:
I'm glad you are undertaking this research. I think that death and
what happens after it isn't talked about enough.
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4.9. Conclusion
This survey asked questions which go to the core of our compass in life,
motivated people to answer the survey; the only thing we know is that
work involves dealing with the most intimate fears of clients, of which
death anxiety may be one. It is interesting to note that just over half of
are not sure. This leaves the ‘non-believers’ numbering about one third of
post-mortem existence as important to the way they live and stated that
they influence their work with clients. Of the people who believe in post-
relation to actions, decisions and attitudes in life. The 24.1% who believe
that their ‘self’ does not survive, may partake in the belief in a post-
God.
attitudes in life and in their work with clients. It showed that the concept
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which may colour their worldview and ontological understanding as
professionals.
more relevant is the awareness of participants that their views are likely
The next chapter will set out the findings of the semi-structured
interviews.
5.1. Overview
This chapter will describe the findings from the interviews with
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5.2. The themes
The subordinate themes that best addressed the research question were
deep reflection on the data as I engaged with them across all the records.
‘overarching’ theme.
themes.
5.4.1. Ontology
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5.4.3. Personal approach to
mortality
participants’ spirituality and the impact it has on their lives and their
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5.3.3. Experiential validation of beliefs
language of God, angels and spiritual beings whereas others used words
orientations, the first being more devotional and the second arguably
science for validation. That this mystery may lie beyond the powers of our
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Daniel is a priest as well as a therapist. He spoke of an early interest in
me that, for him, the most convincing phenomenon is what he called the
and incomprehensibility can elicit two reactions: on the one hand a jaw-
the mystery that confronts us, or on the other hand the feeling that it is
all humbug, a word synonymous with drivel and babble – not worthy of
consideration. He also used the pronoun ‘you’, indicating that this might
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Claire is a therapist whose training was energy based. She started her
different from ours which she calls the Unseen Realm. This is a
different ways by two other participants, Paul and Carol. Claire said:
explore further her views on how these energies, good and evil, come to
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5 The more that I experience of the metaphysical world, the more I
6 become aware of … First of all, how little I know, you know and
how 7 limited I am, what I was told was the real world, and it kind of
leaves 8 me with all these questions … you know … what is and what
isn’t … 9 you know, what is my imagination, what is … you know ….
What
10 happens in the unseen world, what happens in … through me ….
11 yeah, all of it …
not surprising since she acknowledges dealing with a mystery. She talks
This theme shows that the participants, almost without noticing, referred
Christian, all the other participants saw themselves as spiritual but not
religious. There was something in the way participants spoke about their
Laura trained as a bereavement counsellor early in her life, after she saw
what her mother-in-law’s death did to her husband. She came across as
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a sensitive person who felt comfortable in her skin and with where she
was in her life. She talked about some paranormal experiences she had
had in her youth which sparked her interest in what happens after death
what she thought happens after death, I detected a clear tension between
the materialist belief that the demise of the physical body determines the
55 Sometimes I think nothing happens, that we die and that’s it, but I can’t
56 believe that, I just can’t believe that, because I believe there is so much
57 more that we don’t understand and I just think it is our inability as
58 human beings and our brain power that we can’t link in, and … why
59 don't I believe that? Well, I mean, I suppose the concrete part of me
60 would say, I don’t want to believe it, I don’t want to believe that we’re
61 just here and we live and die, … but then … it’s just this feeling I have
62 and it is really hard to articulate, that there is so much more …
impenetrable and authoritarian, which tells her she is weak and feeble
convincing.
Sylvia told me in the first few minutes of our interview that she wanted to
participate in this study not so much because of what she found in her
work with clients, but more because of her interest in the subject. She
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has had an interest in consciousness from an early age and has devoted
much time and effort over the years to learning about consciousness and
seminars. She mentioned learning from some people who lecture on the
spiritual circuit, such as Deepak Chopra, Mooji and Anita Moorjani. She
said she wants to see the ‘burning bush’, referring to the passage in the
Moses trusted the reality of his interlocutor, Sylvia wants to trust her
479 People who have experienced something big … cos I think well,
they 480 have experienced that, and they are talking from their own
481 experience, maybe I could have that too or … is it … or maybe that
it 482 resonates somewhere with something inside me, maybe
that’s what 483 it is … oh yeah, somewhere it’s … oh yeah, I know
that …
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252 Maybe psychoanalytically it would mean I don’t have a good
enough 253 internal object and I am fearing death, so I’m always
trying to believe 254 in some kind of immortality.
a death doula and felt like being someone who was at this time in a
comfortable place within her life. At the time the experience related below
happened, she was moving away from her Christian beliefs, which she
inherited from her family. Up to then she had not had any interest in
esoteric subjects so when she heard the story related by a client who had
speed’ because his parachute did not open properly, she could well have
126 I wasn’t quite sure what my beliefs were but meeting him and
127 listening to him … funny thing isn’t it … you talk to people about
all 128 sorts of things, but some people you just believe them … and I
129 utterly, utterly believed him …
In this comment, I heard her inner struggle regarding her beliefs. The
question this particular story posed was: could people possibly experience
meeting beings in another realm who tell them that it is not their time yet
and that they have to go back to their bodies? Is that credible? But she
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found that ‘some people you just believe them’. She did not mention
This theme illustrates the experiences participants had had which they
themselves.
apparitions, hearing voices and being in touch with beings from other
the need to put them under the lens of rationality and developed doubts
youth, in a friend’s house in an area where battles took place at the time
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of the Wars of the Roses22. Rather than her dismissing them, they stayed
with her as real albeit unexplained. Later on, at the death of her father,
she had an experience which challenged the conventional beliefs she still
Her communication was tentative and at times she avoided eye contact
almost as if indicating that I might think her mad. I myself was intrigued
point in the interview she would feel comfortable with me. It seemed,
however, that although she admitted that she saw her father really
clearly, her own experience fell short of acceptable evidence in the light of
felt ‘guided’ to work around death and dying. At one point she intuited
22
The series of English civil wars, called the Wars of the Roses (1455-
1487) between the House of York and the House of Lancaster.
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confirmed as a good friend was diagnosed with a terminal illness. Carol
was able to be with her friend to the end, something she sees as a
privilege. She was ‘thrown’ (her word) into work in a hospice and said
that over the years, she had done a lot of exploration around the subject
leader who worked with spiritual energies, she heard the voice of her
uncle who had died some years before. He had a very distinctive voice,
which she instantly recognised. Rather than being surprised, she was in
230 Now my aunt was dying, and I was very fond of her … and I heard
231 my uncle … he had a very distinctive voice … and I just heard …
now
232 I’ve never heard it since, it was my one and only, but it just said
233 CAROL … tell [name of her aunt] it will be ok … and it was like, oh
234 wow … and I knew instantly who it was! I told her whilst she was
235 dying and it gave [her] quite a lot … of comfort actually … my uncle
236 came to me, he told me this … you know, but it was … so very
237 CAROL (the way he used to call me)… and it was just so him you
238 know … why would I make this up? … You know, it was just …
yeah, so …
She ended with the interesting statement ‘why would I make this up?’,
rate her experience as believable, she did not know me well enough to
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5.4. Superordinate theme: being a spiritual person
their spirituality. Some were or had been affiliated with organised religion
and others had found their path outside of such a framework, often
informed by the teachings of more than one creed or faith. The theme
5.4.1 Ontology
This theme reflects the way participants experience their spirituality and
being spiritual influences the way they live their lives and how they
Joan understood that she was created and ‘held’ by God. Claire and
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consciousness is that they experience themselves living within a greater
reality, one that incorporates other dimensions with which in some way
that he thought the study was about spirituality; he had not realised
his story. His spiritual journey had taken him through the Christian
narrative, which he was first devoted to but then rejected together with
forceful use of the word made me realise the frustration it hid. He said:
And then
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52 I cottoned on to the idea that consciousness is not just individual, but
53 we are part of consciousness [that] is bigger than the individual. How
54 one works with that how one thinks about that, I’m not quite sure, but
55 I’m not just this little pea of consciousness. …
83 It enables me, when I am aware to move from sort of, little mind into
84 bigger mind … most of my life is dealing with buses and trains, tax and
85 little mind but I can move into that sense of bigger consciousness … I get
86 that sense of the big picture, of the higher consciousness, whatever you
87 want to call it … so that informs me as a path to maybe not get so
88 caught in the little mind, to be able to spend more time in the bigger
89 picture …
mentions not being sure about ‘how one works with that how one thinks
liberation in the way he described the move from ‘little mind’ to ‘bigger
consciousness’.
family, and had an early experience of religion which was formative. She
said:
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64 Every night we would have a Bible study at the dinner table the
65 children … you know us four children and my two parents … and
I
66 got the feeling that he [father] was passing on what he believed to
67 be a sacred heritage to his children which was incredibly
important.
consciousness.
and how their spirituality impacts the way they live their lives. The
experiences were shown to have had a profound effect on life. Two of the
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Rachel is a therapist and also a trainer in the profession. She is
her life. She has had a challenging journey. Born into a strict religious
Christian family, the overpowering fear of Hell informed her life in all
ways. In her mid-20s, she had a serious medical episode in which she
almost died. The distress she experienced was at the thought that if she
died, she might go to Hell. She plunged into deep depression, from which
51 I was very frightened for quite a long time, when I was actually in
52 hospital … it wasn’t so much being frightened that I nearly died
53 when I was in hospital … my fear was around the sort of rigidity of
54 what I’d grown up with which was very much the Heaven and Hell
55 belief system. My greatest fear was that I would have died and
that
56 I would have gone to Hell, I didn’t have any particular reason for
that
57 but I think the fear that I had grown up surrounded by within my
58 network, was this constant ‘are you sure you’ve been saved’ was
the
59 language that was used so … what guarantee did I have that had I
60 died I would have actually been in Heaven as far as my perception
61 was then, rather than in Hell? And that then became really the
62 catalyst to quite a period of depression for a number of years …
63 finding it very difficult to find words to articulate it really, so it was
64 more the existential recovery, rather than the physical …
Sitting with Rachel in the interview, I felt the deep sense of helplessness
she had experienced. Those Christian teachings were the framework for
living for all of her life up to the health emergency and their dismantling
left her bereft of the meaning, albeit imbued with terror, it had provided.
During the years this dismantling took, she felt lost and confused. She
did not reject her spirituality but had to find some other way of
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understanding it. I felt this process had not yet been completed. What
Whereas I felt that Rachel expressed relief in her account of moving away
organisation. During his affiliation, Paul devoted all his free time to Bible
I asked:
259 And can you tell me what the motivating factor was at that time,
was
260 it the hope to be saved, was it the fear of Hell?
He replied:
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261 I thought I was saved … what we believed was that if you commit
261 your life to the Lord Jesus Christ you are saved, that’s that basically,
263 if you weren’t a Born Again Christian, when you die you are going to
264 go to Hell and you will be tormented there for ever and ever …
This remark sounded as if Paul was speaking about someone else. It was
haunted by the thought that he was making the wrong choice, and the
had repercussions well into his professional life. An example was the
‘sinking hollow feeling of real horror and fear’ he had about the idea of
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5.4.3. Subordinate theme: personal approach to mortality
This theme goes to the core of this research and explores the
consciousness.
The ideas that emerged from some of the interviews indicated a belief in
with more and some with less conviction. The thoughts about
reincarnation involving sequential lives included the idea of this life being
too, opening up the topic of whether our current lives are influenced by
actions in previous lives. These ideas resonate with the concept of karma
all the interviewees except for Rachel and Joan have talked about
out that it is not the ego, meaning the personality or character, but the
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self that survives, the sense of ‘I’ or me’. In this light, I determined the
consciousness?
Joan’s strong Christian belief provides her with clear ideas about being
created by a loving God and living in a world in which God and angels
actively interact with humans. She has a deeply felt sense of the realness
of the world in which she lives but with respect to the afterlife she said:
103 After death I believe that the soul, the spirit of the person lives on …
104 and depending on your level of understanding when you die, you
will
105 be in one dimension or another …
used the pronoun ‘you’, indicating her view that this is a universal, rather
to say:
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127 I don’t believe in Hell in the traditional sense. I don’t believe in ever-
128 lasting torment for anybody. If you really believed that every single
129 person who is not saved is suffering eternal torment, how would
you
130 ever smile again … how would you ever enjoy a meal again, how
131 would you ever sleep at night?
other people. Hell is not just an intellectual concept for Joan; she can
saved’.
works in a hospice with people facing great challenges at the end of their
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144 CN – Tell me how those beliefs impact on your life and then how
145 they impact on your work.
The message is that Carol sees us as responsible for the way our lives
turn out. The idea of learning lessons in life fits well within a karmic
narrative, provided the sense of ‘I’ or ‘me’ is carried through from one life
to the next. It gives Carol a context in which to make sense of some of the
Another model was put forward by Fred, who does not believe in
reincarnation. Fred did not disclose much about himself but told me he
rejected in Christianity. His idea is that after death we will re-join the
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61 CN – Ok, so within that context of your beliefs, what do you
think
62 happens after death?
69 CN – So that your identity will end at death and you will re-join the
70 bigger consciousness?
Two things struck me in this interaction: first, that Fred was associating
his belief with having a choice in the matter and, second, that he thought
improbable, given that he does not believe he will carry a sense of self
clients
after death, in their work and how they deal with it. It includes their
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5.5.1. Noticing the presence or absence of the subject in the work
with clients
5.5.3. Self-reflection
This theme highlights the awareness or lack thereof, of the topic of death
and what may come after in what clients present. Because death was
during therapy exploration, subjects can emerge which clients may have
to get specific answers. Except for Kim and Paul, all of the participants
I had the following exchange with Joan, the Christian therapist who had
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183 CN: … And you mentioned that death is not very present in the
184 work, … did I get that right?
185 Joan: Yes, you are right, yes … it’s not present explicitly, but
186 implicitly it is! … In the longer term it comes up with regards to
187 issues of loss, issues of anxiety, phobias … they often have
188 something to do with death underneath it when you look at it!
actively pursues the subject, leaving me to believe she does not, which
conducted.
I felt that Laura understood well the remit of this study and that she felt
at ease with unpicking and examining her own experience with and
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attitude to the subject of death in her work with clients. She
283 CN: … And do you ever have people who actually bring issues
284 around what may happen after death?
285 Laura: Very rarely and it’s so interesting because I think it sits with
286 all of us as a concern, as a worry, as a, wonder, … I mean I often,
I
287 think about it a lot, but no, I don’t … I don’t address it very often,
288 and I don’t bring it into the room very often, and that’s why I was
so
289 interested in participating in this research because I really think it
is
290 something we all need to be thinking about because I do think if
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what is underneath, it is underneath
– ‘it is underneath for …
for all of us’ all goes
of us.to
This theme illustrates how the participants told me they do or not deal
Section 5.5.1. above, the interviews showed that the subject of death is
practitioners on what happens after death and its influence on the work
with clients, I asked the participants to focus their minds and reflect on
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Claire, who trained in psychotherapy and healing, has, during the whole
161 The information comes through me, and I feel very much … I am
used
162 as an instrument rather than … I work very … very much from a
163 place where it’s not me, I get out of the way, I receive the
information
164 and … I speak it or I deliver it in whatever way … and that’s the
165 way I work with everybody…
she is a conduit.
work, Claire told me about a client she had been seeing for many years,
where she had identified the fear of death presented covertly in the work.
746 I thought that was really very interesting you know, it’s taken her
747 this long [to bring up the fear of ageing ]… and right at the very
748 beginning of working with her I was aware of her fear of ageing,
749 which equals to me, fear of death, but which has never been
750 brought into the room …
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My sense of this observation implies that Claire was either not aware in
alternatively, the words ‘it was never brought into the room’ suggest it to
option was a deduction I also made from the words of a number of other
participants.
A very different attitude was that of Kim. She had started her career as a
this modality. She had an experience that propelled her into a training
programme which changed her life. She had an elderly client who was
dying and she felt she could not help him in their work. She did not have
the tools and it left her troubled for a long time afterwards. Although it is
curious that someone who had been a nurse and had been used to
seeing people dying had this reaction, she told me that as a nurse her
focus was different and how people were facing their death did not come
she deals with the subject of death, this is what she said:
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355 I don’t feel it is difficult any more. It is as natural to me as saying
356 ‘would you like a cup of tea’ … I think that is what … maybe
357 counsellors, or anybody, don’t understand … they are so scared
of it
358 …. the more you talk about it, the less scared you get, and I have
359 seen that time and time again.
377 I ask them relevant questions and we tease it out with good
378 questioning, because I am interested in, not in what I believe, in
fact I
379 would never tell them what I believe in the session, it is not
relevant, I
380 would be wanting to know what is their belief. What gets in the
way
381 of you talking about it, what is it about the word ‘death’ that
makes
382 you feel really scared? When you think of your mother dying, what
do
383 you imagine is going to happen? It will be those sorts of things, so it
384 doesn’t really matter what I believe! I mean I am sitting there in my
385 head, maybe in a parallel process thinking, what a shame you
think
386 that, because I think this … but I think it … you know, … even as a
387 doula, we are not imposing our views on anybody, we are just
going to
388 find out what they think and we are going to work with that.
Kim was aware that the experience with the elderly gentleman had
propelled her to look for ways to address it. She would also have had to
have the courage to face her own issues around her mortality to become
a death doula.
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One other participant, Paul, also a former nurse, is someone who moved
arrive at freedom of belief and now has an open mind. Because past lives
actions and take responsibility for their life as they are living now.
I then asked him a question, which I also asked other participants who
did not volunteer the information, as to whether he had clients who spoke
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465 They often say, ‘I’ve never told anyone … I’ve never told this to
anyone
466 before’ because they can sense … and this interests me … and
again,
467 it suggests to me something beyond what academic psychology
468 accepts … that … the way that clients … people very quickly, sense
469 that it is ok to tell me about paranormal experiences and I’m not
going
470 to think that they are nuts …
which Rachel flagged from the practitioner’s point of view (see Section
5.5.3.).
subject of this study – their views on the afterlife and their influence on
their work with clients – had on them. Because the majority of the
very rarely emerges, in their work with clients, I heard their reflections on
why this may be with interest. Except for Kim (the death doula), Paul (the
hypnotherapist) and Daniel (the priest and therapist), all of the other
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For instance, Rachel, who was born into a strict religious family, was
very reflective on this point. Her struggle to release herself from the
clutches of the fear she grew up with lasted for about a decade, until her
mid-30s. She did her training in her late 30s, by which time although she
Nevertheless, she found it helped her understand the language and the
feelings behind the language of the dying clients she was seeing in the
232 I’m thinking about a client I worked with, and this was a client
who I
233 had worked with until she died and she had a very strong sense
of
234 spirituality and feeling held, so we had a number of sessions
where
235 she would reflect on that and she was aware enough of my own
236 sense of spirituality at that point in a way that I think … I believe
…
236 enabled her to perhaps use language that felt right for her without
237 having to censure it out, and it was an understanding I think,
238 between us … so something about her belief in a beyond … I think
at
239 that point it felt really important that I had an understanding of
that.
Although she had left the Church at that time, her familiarity with the
language and the teachings made it easy for the client to feel heard and
understood, and for Rachel it seemed to be gratifying that she was able to
help this person in her last days. There was a resonance between her and
the client, but in the light of that resonance, she reflected on what
happens when the opposite is the case, when there is an inner closing
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down on the part of the therapist. I asked her whether she had ever had a
client who had told her of a paranormal experience they have had, and
she told me that had never happened. But then she added:
frustration that she has no control over not being able to hear when
clients may have used what she called ‘language under the paranormal
Daniel did not look towards himself as an explanation for the absence of
the topic in the work with his clients. In spite of his openness to the field
workshops and so on, and through his membership of the SPR, he does
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in the work. In response to my question about whether his beliefs
495 Daniel – I would say I’m open to discussion, I think that would be
the
496 way I put it, and demonstrate the openness a little bit.
504 CN – But this openness, … what effect does that have on people,
this
506 openness?
507 Daniel – I’m rather careful of it because not everyone is open, they
508 have differing levels of it, for some people may be disgusted even
by
509 this, I’m very sensitive to it …
610 sometimes people are interested, but I don’t speak generally about
611 these things … they’d run a mile …
618 CN – Disgust …
622 CN – Disgust …
referring to the idea of the decomposition of the physical body. These are
found it curious, given his interest in psychic reality, that he did not
disposition.
what may happen after death. The ethical aspect comes from what was
learned in their training and the credibility aspect has to do with their
own desire to maintain a high standard in the profession, which they feel
views.
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observation that encapsulated what many of the other participants said.
He confirmed:
93 I’ve got very specific beliefs myself, but you know, it is not my job
to
94 impose my beliefs on other people … obviously ... so, I have to
work
95 within the context of what the client thinks ….
Joan had an interesting response. She has strong views, which she
helpful frame in which she lives comfortably; I feel she inhabits a good
existential place in the world. However, she had a strong reaction with
regards to her inability to discuss death and what may come after with
clients. She referred to her training as the source of her constraint. She
the Christian population with whom she works but confirmed that these
issues are not part of her work. Talking about her clients, she said:
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372 Joan – I think that underneath they have residues of Christianity
yes,
373 most of them … which includes fear of punishment and so on ...
376 Joan– No, no, well it’s very important … it’s very important … and I
377 give you a reason why it is not explored is because we have this
378 injunction upon us that we are not allowed to impose our beliefs on
other people …
I suggested:
Joan replied:
380 Yes but they would say that … the tutors would say to you as a pupil
381 that … if you have strong feelings you are not able to explore these
382 things in a neutral enough way … that you would potentially
383 influence your client therefore it’s best not to talk about it … that’s
384 what they would say … they wouldn’t necessarily say that in black
385 and white but they would imply it, it would be hidden, it would be
386 kind of felt throughout the entire course that if you have a strong
387 belief, you better not say it …
her ethos. And within that framework, she feels frustrated but also
submissive to what she has absorbed from her course. I got a sense of
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Some of the participants feel that what keeps them back from dealing
with the issues around what may happen after death is the question of
credibility. I explored how they might feel in an ideal world, where there
474 I would be braver, more confident, going to these areas, and perhaps
475 there is a bit of me, you know, trying to look into myself, being sort of
476 reflexive here, perhaps there is a bit of me that thinks if I introduce that
477 they’ll poh poh it, or they’ll … or it won’t fit with them and then I lose
478 some credibility as a therapist perhaps, so perhaps yeah, perhaps
479 there is some of that ….
I admired her candid response and imagine she may have spoken for
in this research
This theme illustrates some of what was said about the realisation
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Sally was a hippie in her younger years, spent time in India and had
During the interview she had many reflective moments and was
She used the word ‘spurred’, which refers to the spiked device used to
make a horse go forward when dug into its flank by a rider’s heel. It gives
the clear message ‘go now’. By using this term, Sally recognised that she
must ‘go now’ and do something about it. The fact that this happened as
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mentioned above, death and what may happen after is perhaps the most
and interacts with them energetically. She does not use the word
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For Rachel, who still struggles with the remnants of the teachings of the
strict Christian Church she was born into, the interview seemed to have
810 What this afternoon reminded me of, is that real challenge I guess
…
811 around, … essentially what you are exploring, what our individual
812 belief systems are, what our concepts are, and how our own rigidity
813 perhaps, or our own ability to hear can hold so much power within
that
814 therapeutic relationship, not in telling our clients not to speak, but
in
815 not being able to hear them when they do … at a more
fundamental
816 level … that’s what’s come back to me … most …
power within the therapeutic relationship can block clients through the
from someone who had had such a hard journey to freedom and had the
Joan, the Christian therapist who has such strong feelings about being
She said:
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451 I wanted to tell you that talking with you has inspired and
encouraged
452 me to be more open on faith matters with clients, and I have been
able
453 to assist two older people recently by encouraging a simple trust in
454 God that can help lift the weight of their anxieties. They are both
455 church-goers anyway so it was lovely to feel comfortable working in
456 this way.
5.6. Conclusion
metaphysical views and how they had informed their views on life and
reality. For some the relationship was with the Divine and for others it
living in a world of energies and working with them. The mystery of the
reality in which they find themselves was accepted by all. The word
through their uses of the language of God, the Divine and Cosmic
views on what happens after death. The idea of death as a door to some
Surprise emerged from exploring what happens in their work with clients
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as far as the subject of death and what happens after is concerned.
the participants, except for Kim and Paul, acknowledged that the subject
was not very present in their work. Participants showed awareness that
the subject can surface covertly, but it was clear they did not generally
explore the topic when it did arise. On the whole, the subject does not
within the issues clients were bringing? This will form part of the
6.1. Overview
The two parts of this study aimed to gather different forms of data. The
data allowed for a detailed analysis of beliefs as expressed, and how the
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their practice. The survey, as mentioned above, was meant to attract as
many people as possible by being short and to the point, but also offered
after death, and as discussed above, this study has considered that
arguments exist for both possibilities: oblivion and survival. The survey
The data from this online survey enabled me to get an idea of what the
counsellors and therapists who agreed to engage with this survey think
professionals.
the respondents (82%), and almost 79% were aged over 50. Kastenbaum
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present research – that there seems to be no consistent increase in death
seem to have less death anxiety (p.31). It could be speculated that the
people who responded to the survey may have attended more closely to
this topic.
The majority of the ‘believers’ confirmed that they would like there to be
choice. And of ‘non-believers’ in this survey, just over half confirmed that
they would not want to live after they died. This opens up an interesting
other way around. In his essay The Will to Believe, James (2012) says
be what they are for a variety of reasons. They may be a result of fears or
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to note, the origins of the beliefs of the participants do not constitute part
mind, that the discussion of the findings of the three free-text fields of
your life?
This question was designed to ascertain whether the subject of what may
have an impact on the way they live their lives. The 103 people who
responded to this survey were diverse in terms of their beliefs about life
participants feel that questions around death and what happens after are
important and influence the way they live their lives. Out of the
being associated with the learning aspect of life and its effect on the
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al., 2015, Walker, 2000). Hope plays a major part in this attitude, by
expectations being infused with the idea that ‘if it is not to be in this life,
life.
Meaning was also expressed in the hope of meeting loved ones in the
afterlife. In this way, the blow of the loss of loved people is softened and
such ideas help to manage grief (Carr & Sharp, 2014). In this connection,
the only life they have. The responses indicated the need to make the
best of life, making every day count. This is consistent with the
Heine, 2006, Yalom, 2008b), which sees coming to terms with endings as
the correct way of addressing the issue. Facing the finality of death is
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wonders of life at every moment, even if life unfolds within a context of
provides meaning to this life as a step into a future reality, and the idea
finite.
6.2.1.2. Accountability/responsibility
responsibility and accountability. This was the case across the board.
of their thoughts about death and beliefs in what may come after. People
This may be within this life or beyond. The responses suggest that for
sequential lives, the effect of such actions is amplified and has a greater,
karmic reverberation, affecting future lives in the same way that this life
may have been affected by previous ones (Sumegi, 2014). However, those
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who believe death is the end, referred to the need for responsibility and
The idea of being accountable to oneself and others at the end of life is a
end. ‘Some learning’, say the authors, ‘is instrumental or routine while
opportunity may well involve both types but may be primarily motivated
participants.
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Speaking about life as a learning opportunity, ‘believers’ expressed their
existence. These ideas are mainly connected with theories of karma and
6.2.1.4. Anxiety
The idea that death is not the end was also expressed as a powerful way
of combating the anxiety of finality (Furer, Walker, & Stein, 2007, Heflick
Breitbart, 2004). Death anxiety has been widely researched since the
latter part of the 20th century, influenced by Becker’s book The Denial of
Death (1973) and the theory that followed, ‘terror management theory’
is, however, not part of TMT, which has an existential approach seeing
Although most people who completed this survey had a certain clarity on
their beliefs regarding what happens after death, a few expressed the
candid and it could be inferred that because the survey was anonymous,
people may have felt free to express their fears without concerns about
judgement.
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We live in a death-denying culture, yet death anxiety is pervasive in
Western society (Becker, 1973, Furer et al., 2007, Scioli & Biller, 2009).
salience variable in their study. They found that under tightly controlled
have also been correlated with fear of death (Gazarian et al., 2016,
Starcevic, 1989), as have eating disorders (Marne & Harris, 2016) and
practitioners to realise that death anxiety may lurk behind what may
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present as something quite different (Furer et al., 2007, Marne & Harris,
Generally, the people who answered the survey were positively engaged
questions about death and what may happen after, impact their lives.
with clients?
Almost 70% of all participants in this survey (both ‘believers’ and ‘non-
believers’) confirmed that the questions regarding what may happen after
death, influence their work with clients, which indicates that these
her PhD research into a methodology for exploring the unknown, Cayne
(2005) holds that the unknown permeates our lives in various ways and
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The idea that the unknown has to be borne can be considered an
acceptable principle. However Cayne equates the unknown as non-
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The experience of the anxieties (OCD, panic attacks, phobias, eating
of the beliefs they have and expressed that they also found them
important in their work with clients, even though they did not elaborate
A number of participants pointed out that they are open to whatever the
client brings and work with that accordingly. This therapeutic approach
in the mid 20th century in opposition to, on the one hand Freud’s
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developed by John Watson (1878-1958). The fundamental tool of Freud’s
rather than mental life, to be the relevant matter for psychology, also had
In contrast with those two approaches, Rogers’ method puts the client
What this approach may, at least superficially, fail to pursue are signals
practitioner that will allow the issue to be addressed. S/he needs not
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6.2.2.2. Practitioners’ transparency
called the ‘therapeutic alliance’ (Cochran & Cochran, 2015). This alliance
something of it, however much s/he would try not to do so. A client may
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6.2.2.3. Interesting reflections
A few comments drew attention because they did not belong to any of the
what happens after death. The idea that, as practitioners, it is our ‘moral
about her own mortality, not abstractly and certainly not deflecting back
to him. He needed to hear how she would deal with it personally, which
patients/clients.
Most of the comments left in this third and last free-text field related to
6.2.3.1. Supportive
The supportive comments welcomed the fact that this study was being
undertaken, pointing out that the subject is not sufficiently aired. This
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discloses a recognition that this difficult subject, death and what may
theory, a safe space where the deepest fears and feelings can be
articulated or teased out. Yet what might be described as the deepest fear
6.2.3.2. Critical
are fighting each other in some countries touched the nerve of one
Abrahamic religions as ‘Asiatic’ and there was also criticism that I failed
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6.2.3.3. Miscellaneous
One person left a long comment voicing surprise that in the various
a Cruse volunteer, there had been no mention of what may happen after
death, the intimation being that the answer is ‘nothing’. Yet, s/he said,
data of the survey based on whether participants answered ‘yes’, ‘no’ and
experience after death?’. What I sought to explore, was how these beliefs
impact the participants’ lives and the way they work with clients, if at all.
6.2.4.1. Believers
This section looks at the people who responded ‘yes’ to the core question.
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6.2.4.1.1 . Influence on life
Table 3 shows that out of the 103 respondents, almost 77% stated that
these questions do influence the way they live their lives, irrespective of
Out of the ‘believers’, 80% left comments on how their views influence
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• a sense of accountability and responsibility in life;
A question arises as to what the reason might be for the 20% of ‘believers’
who chose not to leave comments. These people have engaged in the
lack of reflection?
Of the 80% who did leave comments, most found their beliefs to impact
their lives positively, giving meaning and hope to their lives but also
not self-contained and unconnected with what comes after, and possibly
sense of accountability for the life lived and for its consequences.
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survey was shared by just over 48% of ‘believers’, may imply the
this place. Nobody in this survey left a comment relating to fear of being
Numbers surveyed the beliefs in Heaven over the period 1968 to 2010 and
found positive beliefs to have fluctuated around 55% and negative around
particular Europe, when discussing his results. This may indicate that he
the belief in the Christian Heaven and Hell afterlife, which is a legacy of
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surveyed had genuine knowledge of the sacred texts or teachings of their
own religion. In his conclusion, the author states that ‘perhaps the most
ideas in the West during the 20th century, and also by Walter and
university students in Western New York, and found that 85.1% hoped
reincarnation.
research with children who remembered past lives; the research was
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phenomena suggestive of post-mortem survival of consciousness. These
studies are ongoing (Haraldsson & Matlock, 2017) and have revealed
Some respondents in this survey expressed their beliefs that this life is
related to a previous one and a following one, in some way. The idea of
Barua, 2015, Burley, 2014, Cho, 2014) and comments indicated that
Many ‘believers’ used the word ‘mystery’ to qualify the reality in which
they live. The Oxford Companion to the Bible (Hill, 2004) states that the
as mystērion, a Greek word meaning ‘that which God has decreed shall
indicates the long history of the preoccupation with the mystery of what
The word ‘mystery’ was also used in the responses to indicate that there
is more to the nature of the reality in which we live than what we can
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science (e.g. Bates, 2009, Crick, 1994, Dawkins, 2006b) but has a
1996, Nagel, 2012, Popper & Eccles, 2003) and science (e.g. Baruss,
is much we do not understand (and may never know) about the universe
in which we live (Bohm & Hiley, 1993, Oppenheim & Wehner, 2010,
Rovelli, 2017).
But at the same time, it’s the most mysterious phenomenon in the
universe’.
were made regarding working with spiritual guides and energies and also
The next question that ‘believers’ answered was whether these questions
concerning what happens after death, influence their work with clients.
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‘ideas worth spreading’.
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6.2.4.1.2 Influence on the work with clients
Table 4 shows that out of the 103 people who responded to this survey,
almost 70% confirmed that these questions do influence the way they
questions do and 37% said they do not influence the way they work with
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Amongst the comments left by ‘believers’ who feel these questions do
influence the way they work with clients was the importance of
6.2.4.1.2.1. Spirituality
A drive that emerges from the questions that concern the living
and can become an everyday practice that brings an expansion
to our awareness, creating a virtuous cycle that self-enhances
itself. It is a dimension that connects us to the universal being.
An attitude embodied in inter-subjectivity that forces us to
abandon our certainties and our thirst for strength that pushes
us to venture into unknown lands; an attitude that makes us
fragile and prevents us from mistaking the unknown with the
non-existent. (p.156)
One particular comment in this quote jumps out of the background for
me. It has been noted that the unknown and the non-existent are often
a spiritual reality.
between oneself and other people, with the planet, and the
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explore the mysteries of life and living, and the significance of being
externally) and seeing visions are experiences that are ubiquitous in the
subject were found in the literature search conducted for this study.
private life and in their work with clients. In their interesting paper
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Theology, Pneumatology, and Systems Psychology’, Rennebohm and
out.
relatives and loved ones (as they speak to saints). However, nobody
research, Beischel et al. Beischel, Mosher, and Boccuzzi (2014) reveal the
found that her participants actively communicated with dead friends and
with the internalised version of the loved person – their feelings, emotions
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and desires, as we knew them. In other words, a construction of
immortality.
Bartolini et al. (2018), who point out that the power of talking with the
dead resides in the quality of the affect which emerges, which renders the
contexts other than Holocaust survivors. More recently, a tool called the
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6.2.4.1.2.2 Reincarnation
their work with clients. Whereas traditionally therapists will look to early
the idea that karma may play a role in a client’s issues shines a
previous life has encouraged some people to seek the help of past lives or
dismissing its effectiveness (e.g. Woods & Baruss, 2004), whilst others
claim it is unethical (e.g. Andrade, 2017). The basis of this latter claim is
that this modality uses hypnosis and that suggestion is used to induce
‘the greatest risk in past life regressions is that the hypnotist may
its basic tool (Lynn & Kirsch, 2006). However, the role of suggestion can
a past life or not, they carry dynamic structural elements which are
outcome.
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Echoing Singleton’s (2012) conclusion that beliefs in the afterlife in the
phenomenon, Lee (2017) points out that reincarnation theory has been
6.2.4.2. Non-believers
Out of 103 respondents, 28.2% are ‘non-believers’. The fact that these
people agreed to engage with the survey is interesting, since they were
taking seriously something they do not believe in – that is, the idea of an
afterlife. This low number may also indicate that other non-believers who
came across the survey may have decided not to engage with it.
post-mortem consciousness influence the way they live their lives (see
Figure 22).
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The comments reflected their awareness that living in the moment is the
most important way of living a good life. In their replies was embedded
of fulfilment.
Finding meaning within, rather than outside, the span of life is a major
enough, related to the point where they mutually determine each other’
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congruent with the metaphysics that the world is as our senses indicate
apprehend.
something else (Freud, 2013); some other issue assailing the patient is
use the tool of interpretation to identify the source of the problem so the
subject of death may not be attended to in its own right. Razinsky (2007)
points out that this is a blind spot in Freud’s theory for which the theory
The existential model dismisses the possibility that death may be a portal
into some other kind of conscious experience, and the work with clients
2009, Gray, 1951, Loy, 2010, Yalom, 2008b). Accepting the inevitability
of death as final encourages clients to face and work through their fears
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For both these approaches the subject of post-mortem consciousness is a
non-issue. Yet, out of the 29 ‘non believers’ over 72% expressed their
view that these questions do influence their work with clients (see Figure
23).
nescient. They had clearly considered the options but could not commit
either way. Many of their replies reflected those of both ‘believers’ and
‘non-believers’.
Most of the responses in this group tended towards the belief that
left, had the opposite bias. This being so, from an overall picture of the
mentioned being open to whatever the client brings and working with
that. This follows the idiographic emphasis of Carl Rogers’ (1951) person-
potential and become their own person. The principles of the client-
approaches (Warner, 2000), with one of its core principles being that it is
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6.3. Conclusion
believe in some kind of conscious experience after death and that this
orientation.
The most important detail to emerge from this survey in the context of
what happens after death is relevant, influencing both how they live and
how they work with clients. Although death is part of our routine
figures and pets), or even closer (as in personal experiences of the loss of
the West, our personal mortality is not part of our mental and emotional
determine the positive outcomes of the work (Lietaer, 1993) and how we
attend to the subject will indicate to clients our disposition towards it.
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The issue of covert manifestation of death anxiety in clients through
courses.
around the meaning of death and their own mortality in their own clinics.
concerned.
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Chapter 7 – Interviews Discussion
7.1. Overview
the scene and the interviews with 12 therapists who identify themselves
personal life, and whether and how they influence their work with clients.
The criterion of spiritual ontology was chosen because this study focuses
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Although most of the interview participants confirmed their ontological
they will find after death, whereas others were less certain.
For the two participants, Rachel and Paul, who had been part of
Rachel was born into a family of her community and Paul joined his at
the age of around 14. Due to her fears of eternal damnation, Rachel
which made her fear such an aftermath. Although distressing, this is not
lives meant they were haunted by the fear of Hell and eternal damnation
and although they both opted out of their respective communities in due
course as adults, that fear, which was so firmly inculcated early on,
lingered: had they made the right decision in leaving? Would they, after
all, find themselves in Hell after death? It is known that the psychological
slowly over time. For Rachel, the echoes of the fears of teachings she
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heard in childhood persisted for a much longer period of time, and as she
the paranormal, which was understood to be ‘the work of the devil’ for
to Joan. She has felt held and supported by God throughout her life as a
element in Joan’s faith (Michon, 2017), which has been a source of joy
Rachel sees herself now as spiritual but not religious (SBNR), Paul is
Pagan and Joan is still a practising Catholic. Fred follows Taoism, and
limited minds. Claire and Dianna use the word ‘energies’ to describe their
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metaphysical and cosmological reality, and Sally, Carol and Kim are less
able to describe the nature of the world in which they live but feel
theory were quoted by Sally, Daniel, Paul and Kim to explain the
consciousness than to explain what it is. Within the context of this study,
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is not a thought, but an experience, not a concept but an
accessible region of being and that experience can only be
apprehended through direct confrontation of the death of myself
… Only through the reminder of death do I understand that I
am more than a body, more than a personality, more than a
name – I am also a consciousness, one that is aware of my
body, of my personality and of my name, but that is not to be
confused with them. (p.50)
the affinity of their own consciousness with that of the Divine, as one of
the Divine’. Furthermore, they see themselves (and every other human)
expressed by Sylvia, Fred, Paul, Dianna and Laura. They talked about
In exploring the spiritual space that can develop between therapist and
client, West (2000) describes his own experiences and the results of his
research with spiritual therapists. Drawing from his research into healing
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insight, whether that is healing, it depends on your language. …
When you are talking about the grace coming in, we [therapist
and client] both get something from it, but that’s not my energy,
but it’s my skill or my craft to somehow bring us, this field we are
in, this therapy, to the point where that can happen. (p.67).
interpretation.
Claire and Dianna use different language and each told me that when
working with clients, they feel they are a channel for some higher energy.
Unlike Claire, Dianna feels she has agency and examines her intuition
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Dianna, who works shamanically, retrieves bits of the soul which have
energetic entity (i.e. the therapist), thus restoring harmony to the being.
Claire, who also works with energies, does not work shamanically. She
understands that in what she calls the ‘Unseen World’ live benevolent,
but also malevolent, energies or spirits. These are unhealthy and do not
the concept is denied and ignored by the current scientific paradigm, new
dead people and/or other entities which may inhabit some other realm of
existence can and do interfere with people’s lives both in beneficial and in
malevolent ways, has been part of the human narrative (Casey, 2009,
Raphael, 2009, Segal, 2004). In the New Testament, we find in Mark 5:1-
28 Note the use of the religious word ‘soul’ in a system which is patently
not religious. In fact this participant does not refer to God but prefers the
term ‘All That Is’ to refer to the Highest Consciousness.
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20 that Jesus cleared a man of demonic possession, the terminology used
up with this song in his head, went to the piano, played it and wrote it
England: this composer, violinist and pianist wrote her first full-length
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opera (Cinderella) by the age of 10 and had it premièred in Vienna in
2016 under the patronage of conductor Zubin Mehta. The music comes to
her whilst she walks around, often in her garden shaking a skipping rope
given to her by an aunt. The BBC made a documentary on her, which was
the age of 6, one year before he started formal musical training. And, of
course, there is the classic example of Mozart (1756-1791), who wrote his
In his book Anger, Madness and the Daimonic, Diamond (1996) develops
the idea that the ‘daimonic’ is the source of such creativity. He quotes,
amongst others, Kipling, who acknowledges his daemon being with him
as he created the Jungle Book. Philemon was the name Jung gave to his
was faced with a crowd of spirits who said ‘we have come back from
said that ‘the daemon and daimonic express a determining power which
comes upon man from outside, like providence or fate, though the ethical
decision is left to man’ (Jung, 1959b, p.109). It is beyond the scope of this
although the rational mind cannot make sense of such experiences, there
is enough evidence from credible sources that these influxes not only
exist both in creative and destructive modes but they also point to an
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understanding of some kind of active connection with the transcendental,
explain their relationship with the transcendental, it was clear that even
On the one hand, the experiences are felt and interpreted as veridical by
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All interviewed participants in this research were familiar with
paranormal phenomena except for Rachel, due to her early life experience
In the interviews, Sylvia, Laura, Carol, Daniel, Kim and Claire spoke
worldview. Laura mentioned that she saw her father in the kitchen of his
home a few days after he died but then questioned herself as to whether
what she saw was real. Her analytical, logical orientation challenged her
distinctive voice of her dead uncle who gave her a message that was
helpful to her dying aunt. Because of her disposition, she did not
question the provenance of the message and accepted it for what it was.
Kim sat with a dying friend and witnessed the physical manifestation of
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this man’s consciousness or soul, leaving his body; Laura witnessed
saw; and Claire spoke of being a channel for healing people and animals.
Bennett, 2010, Carr & Sharp, 2014, Hayes, 2011). Of course, there are
people have those experiences, something else may be going on. Tart
(2001) explains that some people are able to shift their awareness
(Bohm & Hiley, 1977, Radin, 2006b), may be one explanation. Others
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The above-mentioned experiences described by the participants
and Sally mentioned having taken drugs in their early years. For Laura
this experience was part of partying with her crowd of friends, but Sally
was an active member of the hippie culture. She mentioned that her
her that there is more to the reality of our ‘daily grind’, as she put it.
Although she did not mention it, I assume that Dianna must have also
and outside time, and what he learned about himself as well as about
Murphy, Hobden, Evans, Feilding, Wise, and Nutt (2012) concludes that
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‘the results strongly imply that the subjective effects of psychedelic drugs
and some people are at home with its different dimensions and their
knowledge.
By saying ‘yeah, I know that’ when reading about the experiences of the
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echoes the experience of being part of, and a manifestation of, the Divine,
as expressed by Meister Eckhart: ‘the eye with which I see God is the
same eye with which God sees me’ (Eckhart, 2009, p.298). This kind of
early lives. In their case, fear became the iron curtain imposed by the
rules behind which their experience could not go. Sylvia’s knowing, in
contrast, is imbued with awe and comes from an inner feeling she knows
Sally, Laura, Claire, Dianna, Daniel and Sylvia) made a point of declaring
and others.
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7.2.5. Participants’ sense of their own mortality
The idea of personal mortality was expressed by and large without a great
the research by Geiringer (2018) who found the concept of Hell to have
form of religiosity.
(1997, 2006a, 2013, 2018), with some interesting results supporting the
because they challenge the current paradigm, these results are dismissed
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7.2.6. Near-death experiences
Kim, Paul and Carol mentioned NDEs as supporting their beliefs in post-
mortem existence. Kim heard about them from a client whose experience
their physical body (Van Lommel, 2013). The experiences are non-
culturally specific and throughout the world people have reported similar
meeting saints or Jesus and, in other cultures, people meet their own
The irrefutable fact from the perspective of the people who experience
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o death as a portal into some other kind of consciousness
Fred was clear in his belief that his personal consciousness will ‘dissolve’
of life and order of the universe’ (p.14). The metaphor frequently used for
and individual whilst in the identity of a drop but loses its identity as a
drop when it returns to the ocean, from where it once came. This
metaphor was indeed used by Fred when he explained his view of what
personal identity. Fred and Daniel voiced their hope and preference for
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this scenario, stating that it means giving up the stresses of life and
Dianna, Kim, Claire, Laura, Sally, Sylvia, Carol, Paul and Joan believe
Sylvia, Carol and Paul believe in reincarnation. They were careful to point
out, however, that it is not the ego which survives but the self.
‘Ego’ and ‘self’ have particular meanings. The word ‘ego’ was used by
attributes from the id and the superego. The ego is the mediator between
the forces of the id and the superego and is that aspect of ourselves
what survives death; what does is that part of us that has no attributes,
the self.
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Having no attributes of personality and character, the self is equal to the
of us he calls the ‘soul’. The connection of the self or soul with the
the Divine Mind, an experience which is suffused with the emotion of the
lives.
Singleton (2015) found that in 2008, 46% of the population in the UK,
Australian youths (aged 13 to 29 years) and found that their ideas about
life after death were idiosyncratic and self-directed, not attached to any
current Western culture, which allows for a degree of freedom in the way
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The idea of reincarnation is potentially relevant to the profession of
soul – then as well as future lives, it is likely that we have had past lives.
our lives are a result, not of early life psychological experiences, but
possibly of past lives issues. Claire sees her clients in the light of possible
past lives issues they may be bringing into this life. She explained that
although this is always at the back of her mind, she will only discuss it
with her clients if she feels they are open to this idea. Carol used this
this approach, past lives are accessed with the use of hypnosis following
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relevance to problems they may be facing in their current lives. Paul, who
through this approach, but he does not believe in the veracity of the
‘Deep Memory Process’. In his book Other Lives, Other Selves (1987), he
says:
Past life therapy, as a rule, does not set out to prove anything.
Proof or disproof of reincarnation is strictly the province of
parapsychology and research. … As a means to relieving
symptoms, the ability to access past life memories and
secondary personalities has a number of advantages over
established therapies. One great benefit of working through
phobias, separation anxiety, guilt, etc, as past life stories is that
the process displaces the conflicts from the stuck places in the
rememberer’s current life to an entirely new context. By
becoming ‘another person’ through the suggestion of the
therapist, the ego is relieved of the burden of confronting ‘real’
parents, ‘real’ losses, ‘real disabilities’, and so on. The psyche is
freed by the magical ‘as if’ to produce stories that do not
threaten the living ego, which is invited to sit back and watch
the drama, as it were. (p.312)
lives regression therapists and their modality are clearly in demand. But
that is not the same as dealing with the subject of death in therapy.
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7.3. Working with clients
within the profession of psychology have in the past few decades been
Greenberg & Arndt, 2011, Thorson & Powell, 1994). The main signifier
have been devised to enable a fast and generic assessment (Kelly &
1970).
over the decades between the 1960s and 2000. They uncovered that
although they are still referred to, older studies suffer from a number of
problems which demonstrate that the results of early research are not
Fear of Death Scale Scores, the Death Anxiety Scale, the Collett-Lester
scale and the Temoler Fear of Death Self Scale – and show that the
samples for these studies were drawn mostly from student populations
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which may paint an incorrect picture. They demonstrate that in studies
variables should also have been considered, such as level of health and
means that these older studies ignored the question of meaning, leaving
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The interviews with the 12 participants found that the topic of death is
not very present in their work with clients. All of the participants agreed
that death is an important issue for them and for people in general,
which naturally includes their clients. They were all keen to participate in
this research, yet in the interviews they revealed that death is not a topic
word ‘disgust’. He said, ‘Clients would run a mile, due to disgust at the
these findings, showing that those premises are not upheld. Their
research shows that ‘both the evocative power of death stimuli and the
negative effects of age on death disgust are consistent with the argument
the word ‘disgust’ was used by a participant in what seems to have been
therapist with a very early interest in death and the afterlife; he is also
30
Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation in which the person exhibits
conflicting behaviours, beliefs or attitudes.
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familiar with mediumship and is a member of the Society for Psychical
induces.
client did not bring the subject up herself. Claire’s awareness, however,
did not translate into action and the open exploration of those fears.
Joan was aware that symptoms such as phobias31 panic attacks32 and
found that the most fundamental fear is the fear of the unknown. It is a
31
Phobias – excessive and persistent fear of an object or situation.
32 Panic attacks - intense fear that something bad will happen
manifesting in distressing physical symptoms.
33 Obsessive-compulsive disorder – ensuring safety via the obsessive
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‘fear that rules all other fears, brings them together producing anxiety,
the unknown and of death may be covertly (if not overtly) present within
the anxiety issues some clients bring to therapy. Yet this research shows
that there is little awareness of that and even less engagement with the
Except for Daniel, Kim and Paul, all of the other participants showed
surprise at the awareness that this important subject is not part of their
experience in their work with clients, and voiced out loud their concern
Death, and all the associated issues (including what may come after), is a
difficult subject and, as seen above, a source of fears and anxieties. The
comment made in 1959 by psychiatrist C.W. Wahl (in Feifel, 1959) who
wrote that ‘it is surprising and significant that the phenomenon of the
human, psychiatrists are subject to those very same fears, making them
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reluctant to consider or study this subject. The same could be said of
training and our inclinations become manifest (Baldwin, 2013, Rowan &
Jacobs, 2002). If, as therapists, we have not resolved our own issues,
unhelpful way. We may get stuck, avoid or distort the issue, or even
ignore, or lose focus in our work with clients. We may become aware of
know themselves sufficiently in order not to get entangled with the life of
their patients, which ultimately could have the effect of harming them.
Zachrisson (2009) points out that from its inception, the concept of
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countertransference has become more inclusive over time and today
refers to anything that takes the analyst out of the analytical position,
approaches.
clients’ issues.
a closer examination of the process, we need to look into the tool box of
the therapist and, alongside theory, technique, logic and philosophy, find
empathy, a fundamental attitude that enables the client to feel heard and
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attention is directed towards the self of the therapist, in empathy the
feeling-laden attention is with the other – in this case, the client. In the
1. to increase self-esteem;
3. to increase responsibility;
4. to develop congruence.
applied to both the therapist and the client (Lum, 2002). An example of
denial of her own anxiety about mortality kept her from fully
understanding the depth of her client’s terror of living and dying. She
reveals her insights when she says: ‘I think the great challenge for
therapists when faced with death and death anxiety is not to retreat
behind the frame and take refuge in ritual and authority. The therapist is
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In addition to recognising the problems caused by the unexamined lives
from therapists (Cheung & Pau, 2013). Clients can sense, from the
therapy (Aponte & Kissil, 2014, Cornell, 2016, Sen, 2017). Paulson,
Everall, and Stuart (2001), quoting research from Hill, Thompson, Cogar,
and Denman (1993) and Grafanaki and McLeod (1995), remark that
therapeutic process rather than assert their own feelings and thoughts’
(p.51). Consequently, if these alarm bells have gone off within the client,
may not bring up issues that they may wish to explore for their better
relating to their own mortality for fear of them not being understood or
substantially diminished.
clients may find difficult to discuss. The title of Roxburgh and Evenden’s
in this study, spoke of clients he had had in the past who told him about
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their paranormal experiences, saying to Paul, that they had never told
anybody else about them. His inference is that those clients would either
not have been believed, would have been pathologized or would else have
Could the reason why this subject does not come up in therapy be
because the participants involved have not really dealt with this difficult
issue within themselves? Could it be that despite the fact that they are
their own mortality remains unexamined? Kim, for example, was made
mortality, and she is now able to detect a client’s anxiety and reluctance
in this area. Because she is totally at ease with the subject, she uses a
address their fears or questions. This shows that when the therapist is
this reality and through the empathic process clients will pick up on that
openness.
Other considerations which keep the subject of death and the possible
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7.3.2. Credibility
Laura and Sally spoke of their awareness that speaking about their
beliefs in some kind of conscious experience after death may affect their
credibility as professionals.
2017), Daniel Dennett (1991, 2003, 2017), Sue Blackmore (1993, 2005a,
2012) and others hold this view, which therefore dominates the high
ground of credibility.
This research has shown that even participants who strongly believe in
to address the subject with clients for fear of losing credibility. Laura was
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It was evident, however, that the enthusiasm of participants to talk about
the subject betrayed the need they felt to express freely their views – but
7.3.3. Ethics
imposing one’s own views and exploring clients’ views. Enquiry as a tool
of the profession enables the therapist to bring to the surface fears that
may lurk in the dark recesses of the client’s mind or the unconscious.
congruent therapist may betray his/her beliefs in life after death in the
with their cosmology and their beliefs, being willing to engage clients in
discussing their beliefs and anxieties around death and dying allows this
her own stance regarding the topic of death in all its dimensions, which
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7.3.4. Training
with the subject of death including all its ramifications in their work with
interviewees’ work with clients. Perhaps these topics were not part of the
(Menzies & Dar-Nimrod, 2017), eating disorders (Marne & Harris, 2016),
and others, which indicate the potential for an element of death anxiety
present overtly, none of the participants’ clients over the years will have
issue.
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7.4. Participants’ appreciation of participating in this research
in this research. Carol, Fred, Sally and Sylvia said they had not
previously been aware of the importance of the subject of death and post-
explore it. Rachel confessed that participating in this research had made
her aware that she may not be hearing clients fully by virtue of her early
reality of an afterlife is so natural for her, that she too may not be
hearing the concerns of clients. And Joan wrote to me after the interview
saying how much more open she is now to hearing faith matters from her
7.5. Conclusion
relationship with the bigger picture in which they live. The way they
affiliated with a particular religion, and all of the others are not, being
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eclectic in their approach, but still committed to climbing – or just sitting
destination, the subject found no room for exploration in the work with
This chapter proposed five possibilities from these findings: (1) the
possibility that participants had not worked on their own mortality; (2)
life after death were to be discussed with clients; (3) that participants
were confused between the ethical stance of not imposing their own views
issues in therapy; (4) the question over the inclusion of the subject of
and (5) the possibility that clients may not have had death-related
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Chapter 8 - Synthesising the Survey and
Interviews Discussions
8.1. Overview
comments on the themes which were present or absent in both the survey
and the interviews. It uses both methods in which data were collected,
with clients.
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• to explore whether those ideas influence their work with clients.
It emerged in the survey that out of the 103 respondents, 75 were over
the age of 50. Interestingly, I set the lower limit of age 50 as a criterion
for the interview participants intuitively, before the results of the survey
came in. It seems to confirm that the subject of death becomes more
percentages of both sexes, so, although interesting to note, they may not
be relevant.
religious (SBNR) (31), with Christians coming in close second place (23).
not (i.e., their consciousness will survive and they will re-join Cosmic
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who believe in post-mortem self-recognition and 2 who do not. Although
a few comments in the survey mentioned eternity and being with God
interviewees. This confirms the views of Singleton (2015) that ideas about
from their religious roots. In fact, Peres (2012) asks the question whether
Both the ‘believers’ in the survey and the interviewees mentioned the
settings, I heard about living and working with energies, guides and
spirit. Talking to dead loved ones was mentioned in the survey, which a
approach into therapy, something Beischel et al. (2014) found useful with
paranormal experiences which clients may bring, and only Paul, Kim and
Claire said in their interviews that this theme had arisen in their work
with clients.
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In response to the question ‘Do these beliefs influence your work with
including ideas of life after death. These, however, were generic rather
than specific, so whether the subject of life after death is, or has been,
this subject, and Kim explained her approach of using open and candid
this theme was not touched upon, not even when participants realised
comments pointing out that the subject is not sufficiently explored, yet
death is not overtly present in the work of the people who engaged in this
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research. If we assume that the therapy room is the place where clients
can bring their deepest fears, overtly or covertly, then the results of this
study show that it is possible that practitioners may not be hearing their
study explores the views of therapists on what may happen after death,
this can only be explored once the question of death itself has been
explanations:
1. Therapists have not dealt with the subject of their own mortality
themselves.
professional credibility.
5. Death and what may happen after is not an issue which has been
These five possibilities may be a consequence of the fact that death has
for a long time been a taboo subject in the West. This was developed in
Chapter 2, where Gorer (1955) who called his article ‘The Pornography of
taboo in Western societies has been under way in the past few decades in
books such as Davies and Park (2012), Mannix (2018) and Modi (2014)
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and the media (e.g. Bateman, 2017, O’Hara, 2017, Peacock, 2014). But
the word ‘taboo’ is still used and this simple fact, indicates that the
existent. This research therefore shows that the subject of death in all its
dimensions has not been aired sufficiently for the profession to become a
8.3. Suicide
This topic did not appear in this research, save for a brief comment from
Gooding, Wood, & Tarrier, 2011). Many studies exist addressing the work
with suicidal clients (e.g. Goss, 2011, Reeves, 2017, Reeves, Bowl,
Wheeler, & Guthrie, 2004, Taylor et al., 2011), but I found only one study
that participants expressed the wish for faith and spiritual leaders, as
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of an afterlife fuel, to a great extent, the motivations of some suicide
I propose that an explanation for the findings this research exposed may
nuanced, and understands that truth can be fluid and relative rather
than fixed. Although stressing that both hemispheres are necessary and
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McGilchrist is indicating that in our engagement with the world, we give
binary values – yes/no, right/wrong – and the search for the one, single
has no purchase. Looking at the findings of this study through this lens
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inhibitors of the presence of the subject of life after death in the therapy
room is also relevant. Going further, and considering that the subject of
the practitioner, in the view of mainstream thinking. Yet, over half of the
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8.5. Conclusion
Looking across both methods of data collection, we see that the majority
acknowledge the mysterious nature of reality and are open to the idea
loved ones.
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views regarding post-mortem consciousness; the absence of the subject
deal with death in all its dimensions in therapy, not being sufficiently
aware of the role this terror plays in syndromes such as panic attacks,
anxiety and phobias. The only modality which specifically deals with this
More than half of the people in the survey (and all interviewees) declared
declared that openly work with the issue with clients. The profession of
science and practitioners who challenge the status quo may open
themselves to criticism.
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Paranormal experiences are also rejected as credible, seen instead as the
The next chapter will set out the conclusions arrived at in this research.
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Chapter 9 - Conclusions
The first part involved research into the views of practitioners about post-
mortem consciousness, and the second was the influence of those views
on their work with clients. I also showed in chapter 2 that notions of post-
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the left hemisphere-type of perception which makes materialist and
views, disparaged.
different perspectives on its nature and noting the views of secular and
belief, I explored the literature on this topic and found belief to be not
only based on reason but also to have an inbuilt ‘felt sense’ element and
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of these accounts written or told by first-hand experiencers. I found that
psychology, Freud and Jung, the fathers of the discipline, have headed
the different opinions about the role of death (and the afterlife) in people’s
lives and psychology. I have also shown that the existentialist movement
argues that our efforts to enhance our self-esteem in various ways are a
result of our struggle to come to terms with or to deny our mortal nature.
dying, bereavement and grief work are widespread in the profession, but
personal death and ideas of the afterlife do not figure in the literature
explored.
I have also shown that this study addresses a gap which exists in
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reincarnation has been shown by studies to be pervasive in Western
society.
have shown by means of the survey, that out of the 103 anonymous
kind of conscious existence after death and only 29 people (28.2%) are
definite about death being the end of conscious experience. The others
(76.7%) people out of the total believe questions about what happens
after death are important to the way they live their lives, irrespective of
what they believe happens after death. And 72 (69.9%) say these
importance of the subject for these participants and may indicate that
therapists.
some. It also led to the idea that the paranormal, of which a number of
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Participants who had paranormal experience expressed their belief that
In both the survey and the interviews, ideas about reincarnation were
associated with the meaning it gives current life and also the hope for a
ones. Not just in terms of questions about their personal lives, but also
with regard to their work with clients, those ideas have been shown to be
With regard to stage two of the research, the work with clients, this is
indicated that participants would work with whatever the client brought
to therapy did not give a clear picture of whether the subject of death and
this point. Except for two participants (Kim and Paul), all the others
found that the subject of personal mortality was not overtly present in
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given that the therapy room should be a safe place for the deepest fears
to be explored, it is curious that this subject was not present in the work
who comfortably deal with the subject of personal mortality in their work
with clients and Daniel who has not mentioned it, all others have asked
mortality themselves:
5. death and related concerns not being part of the issues that bring
Whereas the first three will require opening up the subject within the
profession, inviting discussion, for the fourth reason, the fear of having
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until there is a fundamental shift in worldview towards a more open-
minded approach within the profession, whether the subject will find a
presence in the work with clients will depend on the courage of the
The possibility exists that none of the clients seen by the practitioners
interviewed had, during the time of their work, had issues, overtly or
likely that the issues were just not ‘allowed’ or picked up in the work.
this research and also the encouraging comments I read from survey
participants. I felt that this subject touched a nerve in those people and
I acknowledge that the survey was very generic and the picture which
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potentially associated with death anxiety, such as panic attacks,
anxieties and phobias. This could have provided a better picture. I have
also neglected to ask practitioners how much short-term and how much
long-term work was part of their practice, as the subject of death and
current clients, which would have given a better idea of the level of
experience of participants.
study has shown, death and associated issues are relevant elements
whether they would like to have a higher degree of freedom to explore the
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Research into suicidal ideation and ideas about what may come after
death in people who contemplate taking their own life would also be
9.6. Originality
deficits:
profession.
• Research into whether these views influence the work with clients
The findings of both the survey and the interviews show that the subject
of life after death is one in which therapists engage in their private lives,
and one that they find important regarding their work with clients. Yet,
as this research showed, it is mostly absent from the work with the
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respondents stated overwhelmingly that they work with anything that
clients bring, no objective indication was given that issues around what
The findings of this research point to the need in the field of counselling
and psychotherapy to open up the discourse around death and what may
paradigm, this subject would benefit from being aired in conferences and
not. This would hopefully enhance their competency to look out for overt
and also covert indications of this issue being present in the concerns
brought by clients.
Finally, supervisors would benefit from being open to those ideas as they
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open to issues around post-mortem consciousness that clients may find
I am aware that the results that I found are very different from what I
work and learn from their experiences. But that was not the case, and
Coming to the end of this research I can reflect on what it meant for me.
always been a telos in my life, informing much of how I think and what I
part of my interest. Yet, I noted that when I was asked by people whom I
did not know well about the subject of my research, I found myself
embarrassment, not knowing how people would react, and at times was
how those therapists feel who, in the interviews, mentioned their fear of
losing credibility. As the project developed this changed, and today, with
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Throughout the study, I have paid attention and noticed how much ideas
I was pleased to note that over 50% of the survey respondents confirmed
respondents made in the survey about this research and to hear from
the subject.
it is my hope that this research will help to open the way for therapists
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Appendix 1
Background
My name is Claudia Nielsen. I am a psychotherapist with over 20 years
experience and am at present engaged in PhD research at the University
of Chester.
Invitation
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I am inviting participants to tell me about their experiences of spirituality
and in particular their personal views of what happens after death. That
may be within a religious or spiritual, or non-religious, framework.
I would also like to hear about your professional experience with clients
especially with regards to death and dying - how you deal with their fears
and how you work with the material they bring. This could be their
paranormal and mystical experiences, but also their resilience resources,
dreams, fears, as well as the more common experiences of depression,
panic attacks, being stuck in life, etc. I am also interested in philosophical
questions such as how you explore their sense of self, their place in the
world, as well as how you engage with clients who have a more secular
perspective and see their issues within this framework.
You will be asked to provide your written consent before the interview
begins. When we meet, I will invite you to explore your experiences; this
will take the form of a digitally recorded interview lasting no more than an
hour. I may invite you for a possible second interview if necessary for my
research and if agreeable to you. I will make every effort to come to a place
that is convenient to you.
After the interview, I will transcribe the recording, and you will be offered
the opportunity to check this for accuracy.
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There are no obvious disadvantages. However, in the unlikely event that
disturbing memories of past experiences cause any distress, you will be
given a list of UKCP and/or BACP accredited therapists in your locality.
Participants’ rights
Your participation in the study is voluntary and you are free to withdraw
at any point, without prejudice, before the data analysis has begun,
without giving a reason and without detriment to yourself.
You will be offered the opportunity to read and agree the transcript of your
interview, and at that point will be giving consent for the data to be used
in the study. Once final consent has been given and the analysis begins,
you will not be able to withdraw or change the material, as the data will
have added into the group data set, and it will no longer be possible to
isolate it.
Confidentiality
The interview will take place in an environment where privacy can be
ensured. I will give you a pseudonym, which I will use throughout the
research to protect your anonymity. Verbatim quotes may be used in the
final dissertation but I will ensure that I only use material that will not
identify participants. The transcripts and related data will be securely
stored for a period of five years, by me, and then destroyed in compliance
with the data protection act. Upon satisfactory completion of my PhD the
recording will be securely destroyed.
If the issue still cannot be resolved, please contact the Dean of Social
Sciences, Dr David Balsamo: d.balsamo@chester.ac.uk
Any questions?
Please feel free to contact me via email with any queries:
claudia@cnielsen.eu
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Appendix 2
Please write your replies alongside or below each of the questions and
email the list back to me at Claudia@cnielsen.eu
Date:
1. Name
2. Email address
3. Date of Birth
4. Please confirm you are fluent in English
5. Do you feel sufficiently grounded in your experience to be able to
participate safely?
6. What are the Professional Bodies you are accredited by?
7. How long have you been practising and are you currently working
as therapist?
8. What is the therapeutic modality you work with?
9. How many clients do you have at the moment?
10. In what setting do you work? (eg. Privately, NHS, etc)
11. Can you please write a little about your spirituality (if any) and
how would you describe yourself within that context (eg.
Christian, Buddhist, spiritual but not religious (SBNR), etc)?
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Appendix 4
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Appendix 5
Linked in advert
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Appendix 6
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Following the two interviews with Claire and Daniel, I get the sense that
the research is not going to confirm my suspicions that a) death is a
subject which is overtly or covertly in the therapy room, and b) that
people’s beliefs have an impact in the way they work with clients. On the
other hand, I need to ask more incisive questions about what is going on
in people’s heads in terms of their spiritual beliefs, as they sit with
clients and explore their issues.
13.07.16
Was the language used in my survey not attractive enough to attract the
expected, needed, interested participants?
18.07.16
Has the interview made my interviewees reflect? The question was
specifically on their views on the afterlife and how it impacts their work.
Neither Claire nor Daniel said anything specific about that.
01.08.16
Subject matter of my research lies on the threshold of people’s
understanding what is credible – credible to them and to others. Claire’s
belief of negative attachments being picked off by her teacher. Daniel –
was reluctant to own his own beliefs, even though he acknowledged that
he does not talk about this to others. Third interviewee was honest about
it. I must make it clear that it is anonymized and must encourage people
to be honest.
09.08.16
Meanwhile I have interviewed Daniel, Laura and Fred. I feel that I am not
getting the answers I am looking for. Dennis although fundamentally
interested in life after death as his interest and participation in the SPR
prove, is unwilling to confirm his belief in it. He is without belief. Laura
acknowledged that if it would not destroy her credibility, she would be
happy to explore the possibility with clients and Fred does not want there
to be life after death because that would mean continuing restlessness,
he therefore does not believe in it. I need to look further into the nature
of belief.
Meanwhile I have posted the survey on linked in, first on the UKCP page
and got 9 responses. I have then posted it on the Integrative and the
HIPS page and also on the BACP notice board. I had one response from
UKCP and will explore interviewing him.
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The mystery of reality Daniel, Rachel,
Personal Beliefs and limitations of the Claire, Dianna,
human mind Laura, Paul, Carol
Tacit knowing Dianna, Laura,
Sylvia, Sally,
Validation of Beliefs Kim, Daniel, Joan,
Carol, Laura, Paul,
Sylvia, Claire, Sally
Ontology Kim, Dianna, Daniel,
Being a spiritual Laura, Paul, Fred,
person Rachel, Sylvia, Sally,
Joan
Life experience of Kim, Daniel, Joan,
spirituality Carol, Laura, Paul,
Fred, Rachel, Sylvia,
Sally, Claire, Dianna,
Joan
Personal approach to Kim, Dianna, Daniel,
mortality Joan, Carol, Laura,
Paul, Fred, Rachel,
Sylvia, Sally, Claire
Noticing the presence Kim, Dianna, Daniel,
or absence of the Joan, Laura, Paul,
subject in the work Fred, Rachel, Sylvia,
with clients Sally
The subject of death Attitudes in the work Kim, Dianna, Daniel,
in the work with with clients Joan, Carol, Paul,
clients Fred, Rachel, Sylvia,
Sally, Claire
Self-reflection Kim, Dianna, Carol,
Laura, Paul, Fred,
Rachel, Sylvia, Sally,
Ethics and credibility Laura, Sally, Kim,
Joan, Paul, Joan,
Rachel
Interest in and Dianna, Joan, Carol,
benefits of Fred, Rachel, Sylvia,
participating in this Sally
research
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Personal Beliefs
The mystery of reality
DANIEL – Yes, I’ve no idea … erm, presumably … I mean one of the things that have been
suggested that there is a kind of parallel reality, something that we don’t understand about
the physics, I take, I take quite an interest in cosmology, erm, that just seems so utterly vast,
and … incomprehensible .. you could only have sort of one of two responses, one is that you
let your jaw drop a bit, or that you say humbug …
RACHEL –I think …. The word that comes into my head is mystery … I think I am far more able
than I was a couple of decades ago, to be with the … the concepts of the unknowing, mystery
and chaos, and complexity and I wouldn’t even begin to doubt, to feel that we are the most
sophisticated or the most …….. at all, I would … that sense of, … levels and layers of
experience I suppose, and … an awareness of hearing things quite differently when I really
slow down … something about re-returning to an aspect of the more mystical sense of
silence, sense of sacred, I think maybe I would use this more than spirituality, and that sense
of … deep attunement somehow, to the invisible, things we are not hearing because of the
noise of what we are … something like that, so being much more mindful of being attuned to
the people in my world and recognising perhaps at times when people are with me very
strongly, are they in pain, is that why they have come to me, and occasionally that’s the case,
but I know, when I’ve got too crowded then I cease to hear, so I do have … an element of
feeling aware of those aspects of being open to other levels of communication
CLAIRE - the more that I experience of the metaphysical world, the more I become aware of ….
First of all, how little I know, you know and how limited I am, how, how … what I was told
was the real world, is so isn’t, you know, and it kind of leaves me with all these questions …
of …. You know … what is and what isn’t … you know, what is my imagination, what is …
you know …. What happens in the unseen world, what happens in … through me …. Yeah,
all of it … … this unseen realm that either facilitates us, guides us, heals us, helps us, or ….
Can also hinder us …. If we don’t know how to work with it …. Erm … the role of that … that
…. that plays in anyone’s life who wants to … to recognise it …
DIANNA - I think because of the things I’ve done shamanically I have a different understanding of
things… my perspective is that everything is energy and because it is energy that doesn’t
mean there’s a … it’s a very difficult one this, I don’t use the term God, but I use the term
Great Spirit by that I mean we are all part of the All That Is.
LAURA - I believe there is so much more that we don’t understand and I just think it is our
inability as human beings and our brain power that we can’t link in… - there’s something
that is actually incredibly basic and simple that plants and animals might understand but as
human beings we’ve either become so sophisticated that me miss what’s in front of us or we
don’t have the vocabulary to explain it, and it is a connectivity, a sort of a, a consciousness
that everything living experiences …
PAUL - Just my speculation …. is that its more … it’s not necessarily like a line … like that, it
may be more like a kind of network interconnected that is outside of time as it were … I
think the spirit world is outside of time … that’s just my personal speculation … you know …
I think it is possible to step outside of time, and that is how come precognition can happen
CAROL - so my belief system is …. you know, we incarnate, but at the same time there can be
essences still there, in another realm as well
Tacit Knowing
DIANNA- it feels like we are at school and this is a term at school and at the end of term …. See
how well we did, and then next term we start again and we learn more … until eventually
we become completely part of All That Is … I don’t know … I don’t know … but there is that
kind of karmic narrative underlying … that’s how it feels somehow …
LAURA - sometimes I think nothing happens, that we die and that’s it, but I can’t believe that I
just can’t believe that, because (…) because I bel, I believe there is so much more that we
don’t understand and I just think it is our inability as human beings and our brain power
that we can’t link in, and … why don't I believe that? Well, I mean, I suppose the concrete
part of me would say, I don’t want to believe it, I don’t want to believe that we’re just here
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and we live and die, erm, but there .. it’s just this feeling I have and it is really hard to
articulate, that there is so much more …
SYLVIA- I’m always looking for proof you see … because I don’t have yet unknowing of the
ultimate, that’s why I am reading, that’s perhaps why I was interested in your study … I
like sitting with Eckhart Tolle book and listening to his … and people who have experienced
something big .. cos I think well, they have experienced that, and they are talking from
their own experience, maybe I could have that too or … is it … or maybe that it resonates
somewhere with something inside me, maybe that’s what it is … oh yeah, somewhere it’s …
oh yeah, I know that … Somewhere inside there is a “yeah, I know it” … Even though I
can’t hold on to it, or that it goes quickly or I can’t seem to live it
SALLY- I never really fully understood that the Jewish religions does not uphold life after death, it
is really quite interesting, because in my mind there is the sense, there must be something
more than that, I would say that where my beliefs on life after death lie, it’s more on the
level of understanding the universe as kind of … as an energy canvas, of which I am a part
of, we all are a part of, and I do believe, I do feel, and … it’s only a feeling it’s a belief, you
know, nobody came back to tell us what it really is, ahn, is that I am part of something
much bigger than that, and as such, even if my body …, extinguishes its life force, I am still
there, but the I is very different, it is not that ego I, it’s, it’s something, you know, it’s a spec
in the universe if you like, that might have big importance in the whole canvas of things
because we all – as much as we are just little specs at the same time we are really
important.
Validation of beliefs
KIM - and I have seen the soul leaving the body … I should have said that to you, I’ve actually
have seen it with my own eyes ….. I don’t consider myself somebody who is particularly gifted
in that way, other than I am very open, and when I was sitting with David, just about an hour
before he died. he was just breathing very, very steadily and quietly … quite strong breaths
… and I kept just touching him, and talking to him a bit, not a lot, quiet and peaceful, and I
turned round and I saw smoke coming out of his head … and then I thought, oh, Katrina,
you’re tired, it is 1am, the lighting is low, you know, all those barriers, that you put up to
something spiritual is happening in front of your eyes, and you’re not even seeing it, and
acknowledging it, and then I rubbed my eyes, and I looked again, and there was again this
heat, haze, smoke, whatever you would call it, coming out of his head, and rising up. I knew
that his spirit was leaving his body …. So, I sat there waiting, and then there was that tiny
catch in his breath, that little something … and I went next door and got my friend, and I
said, I think he is going to die soon, and she came back, and he died in thirty minutes. … he
was surrounded by this white light, this person, who he didn’t know a sort of a figure person,
came to him and said very casually, he demonstrated it to me, he said ‘it was like this’ he
went, ‘you just gonna have to go back, you gonna have to go back’, and he said ‘I don’t want
to go back, I want to be here’ he said it was such a wonderful feeling and he felt surrounded
by this very pure love so, I guess a near death experience …
DANIEL - I’ve never had experience of objects appearing, I’ve seen some objects of alleged
appearance, they called that Apports, that had come, erm, no I never had anything co …….
Oh that’s not true, I have had something come through a sitting, erm, most of my contact has
come outside of those in various ways …- I had some precognitive dreams as a child, and a
couple of apparitions, … and then early adulthood a period of time with a poltergeist, seemed
to mingle around
JOAN - I had a kind of out-of-body experience where I seem to … there were two things that were
going on, it was like a dream but it was like being out of the body, one of the purposes of my
own suffering may have been to make me more compassionate or you know a nicer person,
and then the second bit was that there were these spiritual beings, and they were like on a
sort of holiday desert island location, not desert but tropical island. They were so relaxed,
they were laughing, and they were happy
CAROL - I noticed … I had a few experiences that led me to know … to have a felt sense that there
was something beyond death … my grandmother - She came to me in the dream and the
quality of the dream was so different from anything else … and for me … it was a very clear
message, she was there …. She was protecting me … when dad died ahn … I knew … I just
knew he was dying .. I had a real sense of the energy in the room changing for a couple of
hours before he died … I felt my dad’s presence after he died, very physical sense of his
presence being around me … I’ve done past lives regression ahn … I’m quite interested in, I’ve
read … yeah that’s probably my weirdest and wackiest …. it felt like it was … (emotional) …
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between lives and ehn … I had a very strong sense of my guide … there was a real connection
perhaps with my guide
LAURA - I think we had quite a lot of experiences that were hard to erm, explain away. , it opened
up a whole vista of world, that … this isn’t just about life that we live every day as human
beings, there is another life that we don’t understand, …- there were strange things that used
to happen, in her house for instance, clocks would stop, and there would be banging on the
window and not … sorts of things that you would associate with the supernatural …. - I think
this is one of the dilemmas I have had, is it is it my imagination, have I imagined these
things, you know, after my father died, I saw him, really clearly, really clearly, the morning
after he died, or a couple of mornings later, we were in his house, and he walked into the
kitchen and I saw him walk into the kitchen, but did I? did I really see him??... well yes, I
suppose I did, and I thought, well, I’d .. you know and I’d …
PAUL - but in my family we always had … used to talk about …. you might say paranormal
experiences …we always , like telepathy, precognitive dreams, seeing ghosts and so on and so
forth .. my grandmother for example saw a ghost and that story was … the family tradition is
that it was … the ghost of my aunt
SYLVIA- I became interested in near-death experiences and have read a lot about that … I think it
is such a mystery because ….. we are so … we are such … consciousness seems to be such
… so much who we are and people who had near-death experiences seem to have had
experiences that didn’t seem to need their bodies, which is curious because we seem to think
that we need a body to have our … our rationality … yet there are examples of people who
have been blind since birth but when they are in a near death experience they can actually
see things, I mean like that, which completely refute the who notion that … so consciousness
is what kind of interests me … - I was there when my mother died which was in 1985 …
erm … she’d been unwell … she was in her 80’s, and me and my daughter had gone up to
see her [ ….] … and we were coming back to London, she lives in Aberdeen … and she died
that morning, and I remember seeing her dead and knowing that she wasn’t there … it was
sort of so palpable that she wasn’t there
CLAIRE - then I just got this information of which came through the heart and it was very loving
and it was a blessing and erm it was … I can’t remember the words but it was around love
and it was about peace. And about the information that this, this being, which I couldn’t see,
all I could do is hear and feel that they were free now and they could go! I’ve had past life
experiences that have, that have come through and informed like with this client, but on the
personal level as well, it, you know, I was a witch in a past life, but I was a, a dark witch,
erm, and I think you know, it is really interesting, and I think that when I first started doing
this work, that that was one of my biggest fears, it just like, I’m gonna be condemned as a
witch, you know, it’s like, I’m, I’m and I, that was so …
SALLY - I would say that where my beliefs on life after death lie, it’s more on the level of
understanding the universe as kind of … as an energy canvas, of which I am a part of, we all
are a part of, and I do believe, I do feel, and … it’s only a feeling it’s a belief, you know,
nobody came back to tell us what it really is, ahn, is that I am part of something much bigger
than that, and as such, even if my body …, extinguishes its life force, I am still there, but the
I is very different, it is not that ego I, it’s, it’s something, you know, it’s a spec in the universe
if you like, that might have big importance in the whole canvas of things because we all – as
much as we are just little specs at the same time we are really important.
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Daniel
CN – ok, so the first thing that I’d like to ask you is how you came to be a
therapist.
P2 – Ah, thank you very much, I won’t go on too long, I think, I think
dissatisfaction with traditional religion, I began life as a priest, very
young …
CN – how young
CN – ok
P2 – no grand things ….
P2 – yes.
P2 –oh, oh well! Obviously the religious link is one thing, but the other
thing is right from my very very earliest years I had an interest in
mortality …
CN – ah yeah!
P2 – yeah.
CN – and … so what is it that you … what are your beliefs around death,
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P2 – yes, I talk a lot about it, I go to various talks, I got one of them on
the map, the next one I am going to … is about erm …. Erm ….
Poltergeists, evidential bits … I am a labelled chartered scientist, so I
take, I try to take a scientific view of it, when I did my first degree, one of
the professors there …
CN - and death itself, what does death look like to you, what do you
think happens after death
P2 – I haven’t the slightest informed clue, just some leads maybe and
these leads are informed by some quite astonishing research if you know
the history of research into post mortem survival, erm, you’d know of
cross correspondence of Cayce and other things … quite interesting and
quite detailed and one of my great evidential areas is the issue of the
drop-in communicator
CN – right
CN – experimental?
P2 – experimental …
CN – in what way?
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P2 – well, just simply day light sittings, objects appearing, writings
appearing …
CN – so, erm sittings, and you mentioned in the form you completed for
me, that you had been to mediums and that you had relevant
information that came through via a medium ….
P2 – yes, yes
CN aha … and is that information from people that you had known?
P2 – yes, yeah
CN – right and … information that the medium could not have known ..
P2 – oh yes,
P2 – yeah
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