Objection To States Motion For Protective Order
Objection To States Motion For Protective Order
Objection To States Motion For Protective Order
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Kootenai County Public Defender
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Assigned Attorney:
Anne C. Taylor, Public Defender, Bar Number: 5836
Jay Weston Logsdon, Chief Deputy Litigation, Bar Number: 8759
Elisa G. Massoth, Bar Number: 5647
STATE OF IDAHO
CASE NUMBER CR29-22-2805
Plaintiff,
Defendant.
COMES NOW, Bryan C. Kohberger, by and through his attorney, Jay Weston Logsdon,
Chief Deputy Litigation, and hereby objects to the State’s Motion for Protective Order filed June
16, 2023 on the grounds that the material the State seeks to hide is discoverable and must be
Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kemodle, and Ethan Chapin deceased. Law enforcement later
found a Ka-Bar knife sheath placed next to Ms. Mogen on her bed. The sheath was placed
button side down and partially under Ms. Mogen and the comforter. On November 20, 2022, the
ldaho State Police Lab in Meridian, Idaho located DNA on the button of the sheath and
performed STR analysis that led nowhere when ran through CODIS (Combined DNA Index
By December l7, 2022, lab analysts were aware of two additional males’ DNA within the
house where the deceased were located, and another unknown male DNA on a glove found
outside the residence on November 20, 2022. To this date, the Defense is unaware of what sort
of testing, if any, was conducted on these samples other than the STR DNA profiles. Further,
these three separate and distinct male DNA profiles were not identified through CODIS leading
While this was ongoing, police were investigating many various possible suspects. Many
of them provided DNA. At least one had his DNA surreptitiously taken from a discarded
One area of the investigation had to do with a white sedan seen on a camera located at
1112 King Road first glimpsed by officers on November 18, 2022. By November 25, 2022,
police believed the car to be a white Elantra and asked law enforcement to be on the lookout for
one. Precisely how the police came to believe the car was an Elantra is still unknown. A report
from an analyst for the FBI dated March 21, 2023 shows the analyst heavily relying on a video
of a car heading in the wrong direction and at the wrong time on Ridge Rd.
“Investigative Genetic Genealogy” using the DNA taken from the button on the sheath, and now
claims that it was due to the use of this technique that it “tip[ed]” local law enforcement to
investigate Mr. Kohberger. It remains unclear what the police first relied on in focusing their
No matter what came first, the car or the genetic genealogy, the investigation has
provided precious little. There is no connection between Mr. Kohberger and the victims. There
is no explanation for the total lack of DNA evidence from the victims in Mr. Kohberger’s
In essence, through the lack of disclosure and their motion to protect the genetic
ARGUMENT
The State apparently thinks that they need not explain how they came to think that it was
Mr. Kohberger’s DNA on the sheath. Presumably, the Defense is expected to accept at face
value that the sheath had touch DNA just waiting for testing by all the FBI’s myriad resources.
Additionally, the Defense is to guess whether the State focused its investigation on Mr.
Kohberger via a bizarrely complex DNA tree experiment or through its faulty identification of
Perhaps unsurprisingly, Mr. Kohberger does not accept that his defense does not need
this information. lt rather obviously falls within the ambit of Rule 16(b)(4) and (5), a fact the
State’s briefing makes clear in its kitchen sink approach to their briefing. The State begins their
argument claiming Rule 16 has no interest in lGG testing and then ends their argument claiming
To begin with, the State apparently only wants to prevent Mr. Kohberger from seeing
how the IGG profile was created and how many other people the FBI chose to ignore during their
investigation. In essence, the State argues that if the later STR testing is accurate then there is no
reason to concern ourselves with how the State came to investigate Mr. Kohberger. State’s brief
at 9. What the State’s argument asks this Court and Mr. Kohberger to assume is that the DNA
on the sheath was placed there by Mr. Kohberger, and not someone else during an investigation
that spans hundreds of members of law enforcement and apparently at least one lab the State
refiises to name.
Perhaps most puzzling is the State’s argument that while Rule 16(b)(5) requires them to
turn over the results or reports from scientific investigations, it does not require “the State to
disclose what law enforcement does with the results or reports.” State’s brief at l4. First of all,
that sounds like an admission that the information as to how the IGG was carried out should be
disclosed. Second, what law enforcement does with results or reports is covered by Rule
l6(b)(6) (statements of prosecution witnesses) and (8) (police reports). Frankly, the fact that
members of the FBI are so concerned about permitting Mr. Kohberger to know what they were
up to with what was supposedly his DNA, does not give one the impression that there is “nothing
Finally, the State’s claim that I.C.R. 16(g)(2) applies to this matter is quite bizarre.
Presumably, the independent company the government relied on was paid for its work and would
stand by it in a court. The State provides no real argument as to why the company needs to be
protected. Mr. Kohberger is lefi to suspect they wish to keep their methods from being
addressed via a protective order that permits Mr. Kohberger and his defense team to review their
work. See, e.g., State v. Pickett, 466 N.J.Super. 270, 246 A.3d 279 (NJ. Super. Ct. App. Div.
2021).
Second, the State appears to argue that everyone living on earth that provides genetic
information is A. unaware that their DNA could be used by a government somewhere for
something and B. is an “informant” within the meaning of the term in the rule. The State
citations to cases involving actual informants hardly help it make this incredible leap. No court
has ever found the existence of a DNA informant. It would appear that the State is
acknowledging that the companies are providing personal information to the state and that those
companies and the government would suffer if the public were to realize it. The only two
databases that allow access are ones that already inform their users and those users can opt in to
allow law enforcement searches. The statement by the government implies that the databases
searched may be ones that law enforcement is specifically barred from, which explains why they
do not want to disclose their methods. If the fact that the government is looking at the genetic
information that people are sharing was at all an issue, then the State’s very public
In any case, it is hard to understand why Mr. Kohberger should be the one to suffer
because these companies and our government choose to either mislead or not educate the public.
According to the Pew Research Center, in February 2020, 48% of respondents thought it was
acceptable to give their data to law enforcement to solve crime, 33% said no and 18% were
unsure. James Halpin, Police Use of Forensic Genealogy Tech Raises Privacy Concerns, The
Citizen’s Voice (Mar. 28, 2022) (available at). However, 60% thought their genetic information
genetic information, but multiple states have begun regulating police use. Id., see also, Lindsey
Van Ness, DNA Databases are Boon to Police but Menace to Privacy, Critics Say, Stateline
but-menace-to-privacy-critics-say/).
Mr. Kohberger has reasons to be extremely suspicious of the IGG used in this case.
Rather than seeing it as some sort of complex tree building that led to him, it appears far more
like a lineup where the government was already aware of who they wanted to target. Rather than
have the investigation done by someone blind to that fact, the FBI chose to do it themselves.
This is akin to the police pulling in Mr. Kohberger and five of his cousins off the street and then
pointing at him.
The only authority the State has in its favor that is on point is a trial court order from a
Californian case that settled before it could lead anywhere. That decision relied on is People v.
Johnson, 139 Cal.App.4th 1 135, 43 Cal.Rptr.3d 587 (Cal. Ct. App. 2006). The court in Johnson
was not deciding whether a defendant had a right to know how he was identified, only that his
(N .J . Super.
Ct. App. Div. 2023). In this case, an appellate court heard similar argiments about the need for
software used for facial recognition to be discovered to the defendant, though they would not be
The FRT's reliability has obvious implications for the accuracy of the
identification process because an array constructed around a mistaken potential
match would leave the witness with no actual perpetrator to choose. The
reliability of the technology bears direct relevance to the quality and thoroughness
of the broader criminal investigation, and whether the potential matches the
sofiware returned yielded any other viable alternative suspects to establish third-
party guilt. Defendant's request for the identity, design, specifications, and
operation of the program or programs used for analysis, and the database or
databases used for comparison are relevant to FRT‘s reliability.
At trial, the State will likely have the investigating officer explain the police
investigation, including the process of retrieving the still photo from the
surveillance cameras ultimately used to generate an image of defendant. Although
we do not speculate regarding the exact nature of this testimony and whether
defendant will seek t0 impeach it, the fact the State does not bear the burden of
adducing testimony regarding the composition of the photo array does not bar the
defense access to the discovery sought.
Id. at 9, ll.
Mr. Kohberger finds himself in a similar position as Mr. Arteaga. A massive
investigation came to focus on him and him alone. The State appears to be trying to hide its
original domino such that he cannot discover why. Mr. Kohberger has a right to discover and
question the investigation that led to him. This Court should so find.
BY:
JAY WESTON LOGSDON
CHIEF DEPUTY LITIGATION
ASSIGNED ATTORNEY
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