Arun Lamsal
Arun Lamsal
Arun Lamsal
Discount
1. Trade Discount $1000 @ 5% Dr. Receivables - $950
Cr. Sale - $950
2. Settlement Discount (4%)
There are two ways of accounting for settlement discount:
2. If the customer does not take the advantage of settlement discount, the full
amount will be payable to the supplier:
Dr. Payables 950 full amount
Cr. Cash/Bank 950
3. If the customer does take the advantage of settlement discount, the discount
amount will be recorded as:
Dr. Payables 950 (original amount)
Cr. Cash 912 (net amount after discount)
Cr. Discount received 38 (discount amount)
Sales Tax
1. Input tax (Sales tax paid on purchases)
Dr. Purchase – excluding sales tax (Net Cost) 1000 @ 20%
Dr. Sales tax a/c (input tax)
Cr. Payable/cash – including sales tax (Gross Cost)
Valuation of inventory
Inventory is included in the statement of financial position at lower of:
- Cost – cost of purchase, cost of coversion
- Net Realisable Value (NRV) – Selling price less any selling costs
Q. Storm, an entity, had 500 units of product X at 30 June 20X5. The product
had been purchased at a cost of $18 per unit and normally sells for $24 per
unit. Recently, product X started to deteriorate but can still be sold for $24
per unit, provided that some rectification work is undertaken at a cost of $3
per unit. Find the value of closing stock.
Soln
Cost = 18
NRV = 24-3 =21
Since cost is lower than NRV, then the inventory is valued as per cost.
Closing Inventory = 18*500 = 9000
1. FIFO
Q. Opening Stock – 5 units @ $3.5 per units
2nd Jan – purchase of 5 units @ $4 per units
4th Jan – Purchase of 5 units @ $5 per units
6th Jan – Sales of 7 units @ $10 per units
8th Jan – Purchase of 5 units @ $5.5 per units
Find the value of closing stock.
Soln
Closing Inventory Unit = 5+5+5+5-7
= 13 units
Closing Inventory = 5*5.5 + 5*5 + 3*4
= 27.5 + 25 +12
= 64.5
2. AVCO (Continuous)
3. AVCO (Periodic)
Total purchase along with o/s of 20 units = 5*3.5 + 5*4 + 5*5 + 5*5.5
= 90
1 unit = 90/20 = 4.5
(7 unit) = 7*4.5 = (31.5)
Notes:
- If closing stock is greater than opening stock then profit under FIFO is
greater than AVCO.
- Profit and closing stock are directly proportional
- Inventory should be always valued at power of cost or NRV
COST OF INVENTORY
Q.1 On 1 jan 20X1, ABC co. purchased an item of PPE at $25,000. This item of PPE was
depreciated by the straight-line method at 5% per year. What is the carrying value of PPE after
3 years. Show with entry of depreciation. What is the depreciation charge and carrying amount
to be shown in financial statement for the year ended 31 December 20X2.
Soln
Cost = 25000
Depreciation = (25000*5%) = 1250
Carrying value after three years = cost – Ad = 25000-2500= 22500
Q.2 On 1 jan 20X1, ABC co. purchased an item of PPE at $25,000. This item of PPE was
depreciated by the reducing balance method at 5% . What is the carrying value of PPE after 3
years. Show with entry of depreciation.
Soln
Cost/cv Deprn CV
Year – 1 25000 25000*5% = 1250 25000 – 1250 = 23750
Year – 2 23750 23750*5% = 1187.5 23750 – 1187.5 = 22562.5
Year – 3 22562.5 22562.5*5% = 1128.125 22562.5 – 1128.125 = 21434.375
Subsequent Measurement
a) Cost Model
CV of PPE = Cost – AD
b) Revaluation Model (Fair Value)
CV of PPE = Fair Value – AD
Revaluation Model
If an asset's carrying amount is increased as a result of a revaluation, the increase shall be
recognized in other comprehensive income and accumulated in equity under the heading of
revaluation surplus.
If an item of PPE is revalued, then all assets related to that class should be revalued.
Revaluation of a non-current asset is accounted as:
Dr. Cost of PPE xx (Revalued amount – Original cost)
Dr. Accumulated Depreciation xx
Cr. Revaluation Surplus xx (Revalued amount – Carrying value)
Q. Hamstrung runs a kilt-making business in Scotland. It has run the business for many years
from a building which originally cost $300,000 and on which $100,000 accumulated depreciation
has been charged to date. Hamstrung wishes to revalue the building to $750,000. Find the
financial statement extract. To find: CV and Revaluation surplus
Soln
Cost = 300000
AD = 100000
Carrying Value = 300000-100000= 200000
Statement of Financial Position:
NCA = 750,000
Equity
- R/s = 550,000
Revaluation Surplus = Revalued Amount – Carrying Value at that date
= 750,000-200,000 = 550,000
Dr. PPE(Balancing) – 450,000 ( Revalued amount – cost of NCA) = 750000- 300000 = 450000
Dr. Accumulated Depreciation – 100,000
Cr. Revaluation Surplus – 550,000
Show the financial statement extract.
PNL Statement
Depreciation Expense = xxxx
Other comprehensive income:
Revaluation surplus = 550000
Statement of financial position
NCA:
PPE 750000
Equity:
Revaluation surplus 550000
Statement of changes in equity
Revaluation surplus 550000
Q. A company bought a property four years ago on 1 jan for $ 170,000. Since then property
prices have risen substantially and the property has been revalued at $ 210,000.
The property was estimated as having a useful life of 20 years when it was purchased. What is
the balance on the revaluation surplus reported in the statement of financial position.
Soln
Cost = 170000
RA = 210,000
Carrying value just before the date of revaluation,
CV = 170000-170000/20*4 = 136000
Revaluation surplus = RA – CV = 210,000-136,000= 74000
Disposal of NCA
If,
Cost - $100 m
AD – $60 m
Disposal on $80m
1) Dr. cash – 80
Cr. Disposal – 80
2) Dr. Disposal – 100
Cr. PPE – 100
3) Dr. AD – 60
Cr. Disposal
Dr. cash – 80
Dr. AD – 60
Cr.PPE – 100
Cr. Income – 40
Transfer of excess depreciation
The excess of the new annual depreciation charge over the old depreciation charge may
be the subject of an annual transfer from revaluation surplus to retained earnings.
1. ABC Co had non-current assets with a cost of $2,260,000 at the start of 20X8. During the year the following
transactions took place:
a. Non-current assets with a cost of $545,000 were purchased
b. Assets costing $290,000 were sold for $130,000
c. A building which had cost $700,000 and had a carrying amount of $350,000 was revalued to $900,000
What is the balance on the non-current assets cost or revaluation account at 31-Dec-20X8?
a. $3,065,000
b. $2,715,000
c. $2,875,000
d. $3,225,000
PPE Cost A/C
$ $
B/F 2,260,000 Disposal 290,000
Addition/Purchase 545,000
Revaluation Surplus 550,000 C/F 3065000
Q. At 30 September 20X2, the following balances existed in the records of Lambda Co:
Plant and equipment:
Cost $860,000
Accumulated depreciation $397,000
During the year ended 30 September 20X3, plant with a written down value of $37,000 was sold for $49,000. The
plant had originally cost $80,000. Plant purchased during the year cost $180,000. It is the Lambda Co’s policy to
charge a full year's depreciation in the year of acquisition of an asset and none in the year of sale, using a rate of
10% on the straight-line basis.
What is the carrying amount that should appear in Lambda Co's statement of financial position at 30
September 20X3 for plant and equipment?
Soln:
Cost = 860,000 – 80,000 + 180,000 = 960,000
AD = 397,000 – 43,000 + 96,000 = 450,000
Amortization
It is a systematic allocation of cost over its useful life. It should reflect the pattern in which
related economic benefits are consumed by intangible in case of limited life.
In case, the assets have infinite life, it should not be amortized but subject to annual review for
impairment.
Dr. Amortization expense (PNL)
Cr. Accumulated amortization (SOFP)
Amortization should start when asset is available for use.
The amortization period should be regularly reviewed if there is any changes, it should be
accounted as per IAS – 8 change in accounting estimates.
Q. The following transaction relates to Ram’s electricity expenses ledger account for the
year ended 30 June 20X9:
➢ Prepayment brought forward $ 550, prepayment carried forward $1500
➢ Cash paid $5,400
➢ Accrual carried forward $ 650, Accrual brought forward $2000
What amount should be charged to the statement of profit or loss in the year ended 30 June
20X9 for electricity?
a) $ 3100 b). $ 6,000 c. $ 5,500 d. $ 5,300
Accrued Income (Asset)
Accrued income arises where income has been earned in the accounting period but has not yet
been received. It is treated as asset in the statement of financial position.
a) Dr. Accrued Income b) Dr. Cash
Cr. Income Cr. Accrued Income
Prepaid Income (Liability)
Prepaid income arises where income has been received in the accounting period but which
relates to the next accounting period (not earned yet). It is treated as liability in the statement
of financial position.
a) Dr. Cash b) Dr. Prepaid Income c) Dr. Income
Cr. Prepaid Income Cr. Income Cr. Prepaid Income
10.10) B, a limited liability company, receives rent for subletting part of its office premises to a
number of tenants.
In the year ended 31 December 20X4 B received cash of $318,600 from its tenants.
Details of rent in advance and in arrears at the beginning and end of 20X4 are as follows:
31 December
20X4 20X3
$ $
Rent received in advance 28,400 24,600
Rent owing by tenants 18,300 16,900
All rent owing was subsequently received
What figure for rental income should be included in the statement of profit or loss of B for
20X4?
Errors In Recording
Errors that occur, while recording of accruals and prepayments, their impact on
financial statements and corrections to be made are as follows:
Case-1 : Accrual not treated as accrual (omission)
Effects of omission in financial statements:-
PNL: - Expense understated
- Profit overstated
SFP: - Current liability understated
Case-2: Prepaid expense not treated as prepayment (omission)
Effects of omission in financial statements:
PNL: - Expense overstated
- Profit understated
SFP: - Current asset understated
Theories to Learn:
- Merits and Demerits of credit facilities
- Aged receivables analysis
- Credit limits
Note: Allowance to adjust in statement of financial position at current asset is only the
closing allowance.
IDE a/c
$ $
Receivables 14,600 allowance for receivables 2,000
c/f (balancing amount) 12,600
xxx xxx
IDE = 38000 – 13800
= 24,200
Bf of allowance = 18,000
c/f of allowance = 16,000
decrease in allowance = 18,000 – 16,000 = 2,000
IDE = 14,600 – 2000
= 12,600
Provision, Contingent Liabilitiess and Continget Assets (IAS—37)
Provision:
A liability of uncertain timing or amount is called as provision. Provision should be recognized
when:
a) Present obligation (legal or constructive) arise as a result of past event
b) Cost should be reliably measured
c) Payment is probable
Entry for creation and payment of Provision:
a) Dr. Expenses b) Dr. Provision
Cr. Provision Cr. Cash
Contingent Liability:
a) It is a present obligation arise from past event but not recognized since the payment is
not probable or amount cannot be measured reliably.
b) It is a possible obligation that arise from past event whose existence will be confirmed
only by occurrence or non-occurrence of future uncertain event.
c) Provision should be recognized as well as disclosed whereas contingent liability should
be disclosed only.
It has no entry and is only disclosed.
Contingent assets:
It is a possible asset that arise as a result of past event. It should be recognized and disclosed if
it is virtually certain and if it is probable then should be disclosed only.
More than 95% Virtually Certain Recognize and Disclose
More than 50% Probable Disclose only
Less than 50% Possible -
Less than 10% Remote -
Remeasurement of Provision:
a) If payment is made in excess of provision created, the excess amount should be treated
as expense
Eg:
Estimated - $50,000 but paid - $60,000
Entry to create provision Entry for payment of provision
Dr. Expense – 50,000 Dr. Provision – 50,000
Cr. Provision – 50,000 Dr. Expense(balancing) – 10,000
Cr. Cash - 60,000
b) If payment is less than provision created, the less amount should be treated as
income.
Eg:
Estimated - $50,000 but paid - $40,000
Entry to create provision Entry for payment of provision
Dr. Expense – 50,000 Dr. Provision – 50,000
Cr. Provision – 50,000 Cr. Income(Balancing) - 10,000
Cr. Cash – 40,000
c) Review of Provision:
Provision should be reviewed and adjusted at each reporting date. If provision increase,
it should be treated as expense and if provision decrease, it should be treated as income.
Increase in Provision is treated as expense
Dr. Expenses
Cr. Provision
Decrease in provision is treated as Income
Dr. Provision
Cr. Income
d) Provision should be used for the purpose for which it was originally created and should
be reviewed at each balance sheet date to adjust the current best estimates. If the
payment is no longer probable, the provision should be reversed.
Entry to record the reversal of provision:
Dr. Provision
Cr. Expenses
Q. Customer file legal claim against a company for defective product. It was found that the
defective product was result of contractor. Legal department advise that the chances to success
case is not likely and he also recommend that there is a high chance to recover amount from
contractor.
In both cases amount will be $10,000
Find how the cases are treated in financial statement by the company.
Soln:
1st case: Company is not likely to success – it is probable that company will lose the case.
Hence, it is a provision for the company and the entry will be:
Dr. Expense – 10,000 Dr. Provision – 10,000
Cr. Provision – 10,000 Cr. Income – 10,000
2nd case: Company is likely to win the case. Hence, it is probable contingent asset. It has no
entry and should be disclosed only in the financial statement.
So, 10,000 is disclosed to the financial statement as probable contingent asset.
What should the closing balance be when all the errors made in preparing the receivables
ledger control account have been corrected?
Control Account Reconciliation
The reconciliation is a working to ensure that the entries in the ledger accounts (memorandum)
agree with the entries in the control account. The totals in each should be exactly the same. If
not same, it indicates an error in either the memorandum account or the control account. All
discrepancies should be investigated and corrected.
➢ The format for control account reconciliation is given below:
Receivables' ledger control account
$ $
Unrevised c/f ( balance given by the examiner) xx Adjustments for errors xx
Adjustments for errors xx Revised balance c/f xx
xxx xxx
Q. The accountant at Borris Co has prepared the following reconciliation between the balance on the trade payables
ledger control account in the general ledger and the list of balances from the suppliers ledger:
What balance should be reported on Borris Co's statement of financial position for trade payables?
a) 68,439
b) 68,538
c) 68,566
d) 68,665
Issuance of Shares
Share can be issued by 3 ways:
i) At market value (Normally issued to new shareholder)
ii) Bonus Share (issued only to existing shareholder)
iii) Right Share (issued only to the existing shareholder)
i) At Market Value:
Eg: 100,000 shares issued at market value.
If, Nominal Value = $1 per share
Market Value = $10 per share
Number of share issued = 100,000 shares
Reserves
The equity section of a statement of financial position, other than share capital, is often
referred as 'reserves'
- Share premium
- Retained earnings
- General reserve
- Revaluation reserve
a) Revenue Reserves:
Retained earnings and the general reserves are called as revenue reserves. These are
distributable, and so can be paid out as a dividend.
b) Capital Reserves:
Share premium and the revaluation reserve are called as capital reserves. These cannot be
paid out as a dividend.
Notes To Learn:
- Proposed dividends at the end of the year that have not been approved by
shareholders cannot be recorded as liabilities at the year end. Also, dividend are only
recorded when they are paid.
- Nominal and Par value are same
- The market value of a share is irrelevant to a company for accounting purposes – once
the share has been issued, no further accounting entries are required by the company.
- Revaluation Surplus is only added to profit after NCA are sold. So, revaluation surplus
is recorded in valuation reserve rather than as retained earning.
Income Tax
There are two types of profit:
1. Taxable Profit
2. Accounting Profit
Tax is always calculated on taxable profit:
Eg: If accounting profit is $20,000. This figure is after the deduction of entertainment cost of
$200 which is not allowed by the tax. What is the taxable profit?
Soln
Taxable Profit = Accounting Profit + Entertainment Charge
= 20,000 + 200 = 20,200
1. Taxable Profit:
Taxable profit is the amount derived as per tax law whereas accounting profit is derived from
books of account. Tax expense is always calculated on taxable profit.
Eg: Accounting profit - $20,000, $200 is not allowed as per income tax act. The tax rate is 20%.
Require: Profit after tax (Profit for the period as per tax) along with double entry for tax
expense.
Soln
Taxable Profit = 20,2000 Tax Expense = 20,2000*20% = 4040 Dr. Tax Expense
Profit after tax as per tax law = 20,200 – 4040 = 16160 Cr. Tax liability
Under and Over Provision of Tax
If last year under provision was created then it is added to the tax expense of this year. Hence,
under provision increases the tax expense of the year.
a) Adjusting Events:
Event providing evidence relating to condition existing after the reporting date and require
adjustment in financial statement. For examples:
- Trade receivables may go bad (IDE)
- Inventory may sold at lower off cost
- If going concern issue arise, the financial statement should be prepared on break up
basis and disclose it. In break up basis, assets are recorded at likely sales value,
inventory and receivables require more provision and additional liability may require.
Performance obligation is satisfied when risk reward, control and ownership is transferred.
Q. ABC co. sells a machine for $50,000 along with one year's technical support on 1 July 20X1. It
usually sells the machine for $60,000 and expected that technical support will cost ABC co.
15000. Determine how should the transaction price be allocated and how much revenue should
be recognized for the year ended 31 Dec 20X1, if the technical support agreement starts from 1
July 20X1.
Soln:
Transaction Price = $50,000
Actual Price of Machine = $60,000
Actuall price of technical support = $15000
Total actual price = 75000
Step:4
Machine = 60,000/75000*50,000 = 40,000
Technical support = 15000/75000*50,000 = 10,000 (prepaid income)
Important terms:
Cheque Lodgments:
Debited in ledger (Cash book) but not credited in Statement (Bank Statement)
Uncleared/Unpresented Cheque:
Credited in Ledger but not debited in statement
Standing Order:
Debited in bank but not credited in ledger
Dishonor of Cheque:
Reduce in ledger
2) If question is asking Bank Statement after adjustment from cash book balance
Balance as per Cash Book xxx
Credited in bank but not deposited in ledger xx
Debited in bank but not credited in ledger (xx)
Credited in ledger but not withdrawn from bank xx
Debited in ledger but not credited in bank (xx)
Balance as per Bank Statement xxx
3) If question is asking Cash Book Balance after adjustment from Bank Statement
(only adjust item that can be adjusted in bank statement)
Balance as per Bank Statement xxx
Credit error by bank (xx)
Debit error by bank xx
Unpresented Cheque (xx)
Cheque Lodgment xx
Balance as per Cash Book xxx
Short way to deal with questions for format 1st and 2nd
Cash Book
$ $
b/f (positive) xx b/f (overdraft) xx
Standing Order xx
Direct Credit xx Direct debit xx
Credit error (x2) xx Debit error (x2) xx
Dishonor of Cheque xx
c/f (overdraft) c/f (Positive) xx
Bank Statement
$ $
b/f (overdraft) xx b/f (positive) xx
Unpresented Cheque xx Uncleared lodgement xx
Credit error (x1) xx Debit error (x1) xx
c/f (positive) xx c/f (overdraft) xx
Q1. The cash book of Worcester shows a credit balance of $1,350. Cheques of $56 have been written to suppliers but
not yet cleared the bank; uncleared lodgements amount to $128. The bank has accidentally credited Worcester’s
account with interest of $15 due to another customer. A standing order of $300 has not been accounted for in
the general ledger.
What is the balance on the bank statement?
☐ $993 Cr
☐ $993 Dr
☐ $1,707 Cr
$1,707 Dr
Q2. Jo’s bank ledger account shows a balance of $190 credit. Her bank statement reports a balance of $250 credit.
Which of the following will explain the difference in full?
☐ Unpresented cheques of $100 and an uncleared lodgement of $30
Unpresented cheques of $150, the misposting of a cash receipt of $130 to the wrong side of the cash account
and unrecorded bank interest received of $30
☐ An unrecorded direct debit of $30, a dishonoured cheque of $70 and an uncleared lodgement of $40
☐ An unrecorded standing order of $60, an unpresented cheque of $110 and a bank error whereby Jo’s account
was accidentally credited with $110
Q3. The following bank reconciliation statement has been prepared by an inexperienced bookkeeper at 31
December 20X5: $
Balance per bank statement (overdrawn) 38,640
Add: Lodgements not credited 19,270
57,910
Less: Unpresented cheques 14,260
Balance per cash book 43,650
What should the final cash book balance be when all the above items have been properly accounted for?
☐ $43,650 overdrawn
$33,630 overdrawn
☐ $5,110 overdrawn
☐ $72,170 overdrawn
Q4. A bank reconciliation statement for Dallas at 30 June 20X5 is being prepared. The following information is
available:
1. Bank charges of $2,340 have not been entered in the cash book.
2. The bank statement shows a balance of $200 Dr.
3. Unpresented cheques amount to $1,250.
4. A direct debit of $250 has not been recorded in the ledger accounts.
5. A bank error has resulted in a cheque for $97 being debited to Dallas’ account instead of Dynasty’s account.
6. Cheques received but not yet banked amounted to $890.
The final balance in the cash book after all necessary adjustments should be:
☐ $463 Dr
$463 Cr
☐ $63 Cr
☐ $63 Dr
Q6. Your firm’s cash book shows a credit bank balance of $1,240 at 30 April 20X9. On comparison with the bank
statement, you determine that there are unpresented cheques totalling $450, and a receipt of $140 which has
not yet been passed through the bank account. The bank statement shows bank charges of $75 which have not
been entered in the cash book.
The balance on the bank statement is:
$1,005 overdrawn
☐ $930 overdrawn
☐ $1,475 in credit
☐ $1,550 in credit
Errors in Trial Balance and Suspense Account
There are two types of errors that we face in trial balance.
1) Errors where the trail balance still balances.
2) Errors where the trial balance does not balance.
We create suspense account if some errors do not let trail balance to be balanced.
➢ Errors of omission:
Eg: A cash sale of $100 was not recorded.
Dr. Cash – 100
Cr. Sale – 100
➢ Errors of Commission: A transaction has been recorded in the wrong account but in
account of same element.
Eg: Rent expense of $500 has been debited to the repairs expense account.
The double entry for both account: Dr. Expense
Cr. Cash/payable
➢ Compensating error: Two different errors have been made which cancel each other out.
Eg: Rent bill of $1200 is debited as $1400 and sales is overstated by 200.
Did do: Correction:
Dr. Rent bill – 1400 Dr. Sale - 200
Cr. Cash – 1200 Cr. Rent bill - 200
Cr. Sale - 200
➢ Errors of original entry: The correct double entry has been made but with wrong
amount.
Eg: A cash sale of $76 has been recorded as $67
Should do: Did do: Correction:
Dr. cash – 76 Dr. cash - 67 Dr. Cash - 9
Cr. Sale – 76 Cr. Sale – 67 Cr. Sale - 9
➢ Reversal of Entries: The correct amount has been posted to the correct accounts but on
the wrong side.
Eg: a cash sale of $200 has been debited to sales and credited to bank.
Should do: Did do: Correction:
Dr. Cash – 200 Dr. sale – 200 Dr. Cash - 400
Cr. Sale – 200 Cr. Cash – 200 Cr. Sale - 400
➢ Single sided entry: A debit entry has been made but no corresponding credit entry or
vice versa.
Eg: purchase of PPE for $300 has been debited to Asset account but no credit entry has
made.
Should do: Did do: Correction:
Dr. PPE – 300 Dr. PPE – 300 Dr. Suspense - 300
Cr. Cash – 300 Cr. Suspense – 300 Cr. Cash - 300
➢ Debit and Credit entries have been made but at different values:
Eg: A receipt of $5 from a credit customer had been correctly posted to the receivable
account but had been entered in the cash book as $625.
Should do: Did do: Correction
Dr. Cash – 5 Dr. cash - 625 Dr. Suspense - 620
Cr. Receivable – 5 Cr. REC – 5 Cr. Cash - 620
Cr. Suspense - 620
➢ Two debit or two credit entries have been posted.
Eg: A credit sale of goods worth $500 is correctly entered in Receivable account but
entered twice in Sales account.
Should do: Did do: Correction
Dr. Receivable – 500 Dr. Receivable – 500 Dr. Sale - 500
Cr. Sale – 500 Dr. Suspense - 500 Cr. Suspense - 500
Cr. Sale – 500
Cr. Sale - 500
a) If the debit and credit balance of trial balance does not equal.
b) When an accountant is sure about debit entry but unsure about credit entry or vice versa. In
this case unsure debit or credit entry is debited or credited with suspense. When original
destination of debit and credit entry is identified then the suspense is reversed and original
entry will be made.
Suspense Account
$ $
b/f - trial balance difference xx b/f - trial balance difference xx
(If debit side is less than credit) (If Credit side is less than Debit)
xxx xxx
Remember that: xxx = xxx (the total debit side should be equal to total credit side)
- Sometime question may give b/f and ask for c/f.
- Sometimes question may ask b/f giving all other data.