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NEGOTIATIONS MTN.GNS/9
THE URUGUAY ROUND 6Special
AugustDistribution
1987
GATT SECRETARIAT
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12. One member said that although his authorities were aware that it would.
not be possible to completely solve statistical problems in the Group, it
was evident that it would be impossible to proceed in the negotiations
without sufficient data to allow a better understanding of the issues.
Even if the four organizations were conscious of the existing problems of
collecting and processing information relating to production, use and trade
in services, they were not in a position to solve them. In her country
where exchange controls were applied, the impact of services activities on
the balance of payments was known since all services imports paid for in
foreign currency were registered by the official banking system. The same
did not apply to services exports to the extent that the profits earned
abroad were not systematically sent back. Efforts should be directed
toward obtaining a deeper knowledge of the economic behaviour of each
services sector. She invited the four representatives to reply in writing
to a list of preliminary questions on services statistics, drawn up by a
group of governmental officials from various national agencies in her
country. Another member said that the international meetings which had
been held so far on services statistics did not cover sufficiently the
concerns of developing countries. There was no adequate representation of
developing countries and this geographical imbalance should be corrected as
soon as possible.
13. One member said that for the purpose of the negotiations in the Group,
there should be a two-stage process, namely a stage for classification and
methodology and a stage for compilation and measurement. Reference was
made to the national study presented by his authorities, where it was
stated that services data would never have the same precision as goods
data. He added that the discussion and resolution of most of the important
conceptual trade issues in services could proceed on the basis of the
currently available statistical data. Another member said that since the
lack of viable statistics would prevent the use of traditional negotiating
techniques regarding the exchange of quantifiable concessions,
non-traditional negotiating techniques were likely to be necessary. He
supported the view that, although better statistics were not a sine qua non
for negotiations, they would nevertheless enhance the process.
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necessary for the conduct of the negotiations. He could not accept the
view that the GNS should define rules and principles and evaluate the
impact of these rules and principles on trade in services without
statistical data.
21. One member said that the assumption that services activities and trade
in services were more dynamic than other sectors and activities did not
seem to find support in the data available. The IMF current account data
on invisible transactions indicated that trade in goods, in the last
decade, had grown more rapidly than trade in services. It would be
difficult to proceed in the GNS unless there was a clear picture of the
importance of trade in services at the national, regional and international
levels. The nature of the information needed for the work of the GNS could
be established only by the GNS itself. Even if the GNS arrived at some
negotiating techniques different form those traditionally used for the
exchange of concessions in goods, one could not imagine the possibility of
a negotiation without any quantitative evaluation.
22. One member said the GNS had exhausted the discussions on statistical
issues and the only practical way to proceed was to set up a joint working
group of the relevant international organizations. He expressed the view,
supported by some other delegations, that informal consultations should
define the mandate, priorities, composition and the time-limit of the
exercise in order to facilitate the work of the GNS. Another member stated
that one problem was that international organizations were sometimes
working with a limited amount of national support. More reflection should
be given to the improvement of statistics at the national level.
23. One member stressed that the message that emerged clearly from the
four international organizations was that priority should be given to the
improvement of national accounts which constituted the first level of
possible improvement of services statistics. Another member asked the
representatives of the four organizations to provide a breakdown for trade
flows in services, by sector and by country, and to give the definitions
used by these organizations in accounting methods. Another member stated
that improving the availability of statistics was not the primary objective
in the programme for the initial phase of negotiations. It was important
that the delegations should be kept informed of the work in the area of
statistics proceeding in other international organizations. The GATT
secretariat should issue periodic surveys of their work. He was not in
favour of setting up an international body since the improvement of
statistics was a matter of priority for individual countries.
24. On the basis of the presentations, written submissions, and answers to
the questions by the four international organizations, the. Chairman
identified four main elements. First,. there appeared to be a consensus
that statistics on the trade and production of services were in need of
improvement, particularly when it came to analysing the international
dimension of services activities. A second element was that a number of
national and international institutions attached an importance to improving
the situation and were pursuing this goal. to the extent permitted by
resource constraints, It had also been suggested that improvement of
statistics was a matter for international cooperation, and the need for
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establishing a focal point or forum for this purpose had been mentioned.
Thirdly, the Negotiating Group should be able to see how it could influence
,the ongoing work in improvement of the statistics and identify its needs
for the negotiations. To this end, the Group should also be in a position
to use the GATT secretariat for maintaining liaison and contact with the
ongoing work under different auspices. Another idea put forward was that a
working group could be set up to examine what may be done over the
short-term to facilitate the negotiating objectives of this Group. It had
been suggested that informal consultations might be useful in this
connection. The fourth element related to the question of technical
assistance to developing countries in improving their statistics on trade
in services, and the importance of associating developing countries in the
ongoing work on improvement of statistics in trade in services. In the
light of this, it was his impression that the GNS should be able to come
back to problems relating to statistics at its next meetings and that
delegations should consult informally on how to proceed. The Chairman
thanked the representatives of the four organizations for their
presentations and comments.
25. In the discussion on Broad Concepts on which Principles and Rules for
Trade in Services, including Possible Disciplines for Individual Sectors,
might be based, views were expressed with regard to transparency and
non-discrimination respectively on the basis of communications from two
members of the Group (MTN.GNS/W/12 and 13). One member wondered whether
transparency provisions should apply to rules and practices which did not
relate to cross-border transactions. He also suggested that a distinction
should be introduced between existing and proposed rules and practices.
One should furthermore consider to include, in addition to the generally
recognized exceptions for safety, health environmental protection or
national security an exception concerning budget secrecy. Another member
said that there existed different systems of transparency at national
levels. Transparency should not only mean notifications. One main purpose
should be to provide knowledge of the regulatory environment in the various
services sectors and of available mechanisms for commenting on existing
rules and regulations. Another important element was predictability,
especially for foreigners.
26. One member said that transparency meant different things in different
countries. The question of implementation of that, concept should be
addressed at a later stage. There were various sub-concepts to
transparency, such as publication and notification of national regulations
affecting services, consultations or due process, and information about
market behaviour of private firms. Since transparency might be diminished
through the use of discretionary powers of regulatory authorities, the
question arose whether the GNS was in a position to discuss a reduction of
discretionary powers of regulatory authorities. In this context, the
criteria of desirability and feasibility should be kept in mind. Another
member said that there were two phases of transparency: first during the
negotiations, where it was important to have a better notion of the
regulatory situation in participating countries, and second the inclusion
of sub-concepts in the agreement. Notification procedures might be
difficult to deal with for practical. or legislative reasons.
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27 One member said that the proposal on transparency went far beyond the
existing GATT provisions relating to goods. The tabling of such ideas was
essentially premature. An obligation to notify could only be considered in
connection with barriers to trade in services and not as a general
obligation. It would also seem difficult to accept obligations for
consultations and dispute settlement in the context of proposed regulatory
measures, since this would imply the acceptance of outside intervention in
domestic legislation. The: ideas as presented went eLar beyond the mandate
and the negotiating objectives of the Group. At the present stage, the
paper on transparency could not be considered as a basis for negotiations.
It could be seen as an effort to project the outcome of the negotiations.
Another member said that the formulation in the paper that national
regulations often resulted in trade distortions was not his understanding
of the objectives of Part II of the Ministerial Declaration. Also the
application of the concept of transparency to intended legislation was
alien to the existing situation. in most countries. Furthermore, the
notion of due process of law worked at national level, but to apply it at
international level was ambitious and revolutionary. The question was not
to restrict the powers of sovereign governments, but rather to make
regulatory processes more transparent and effective by applying certain
principles. Another member said that transparency should be considered as
an auxiliary and not an automatic mechanism, which had to be negotiated
among parties. The notion of transparency in the Ministerial Declaration
was not one of limiting the right to make regulations. Transparency should
not cover all laws and regulations but only those which had potentially
adverse effects on trade in services.
28. Some members, referring to the idea of advance notice of all proposed
regulatory measures, considered it unrealistic to envisage a dialogue
between regulators and operators. One member stated that the concept of
transparency included the notion of rule of law which meant that decisions
were taken in accordance with rules or norms rather than on the basis of
the discretionary powers of administrative bodies. One member said that in
his view-the concept of transparency included publication of existing rules
or norms. He expressed hesitation about a notification procedure which
would be more burdensome than the present rules on notifications of GATT.
Another member said that the issue of transparency was closely related to
the question of perceived barriers to trade in services. Therefore,
discussions on transparency might be more useful after the discussion on
measures and practices which affected trade in services. Another member
said that the idea of putting the burden of the notification on the
exporting countries was a good one, since only exporters could know the
obstacles to trade in services.
29. One member said that transparency should be fully covered in the
framework agreement and should also be tested against specific services
sectors. Another member pointed out that the GNS should avoid establishing
a cumbersome mechanism for transparency which could not be enforced.
Attention should be concentrated on regulations in specific services
sectors. Another member stated that it should not be intended to request
notification of all laws and regulations. Another member stated that,
although transparency was necessary as a general rule, a distinction had to
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41. In concluding, the Chairman said that unless a decision on this matter
was taken in the meantime in the Trade Negotiations Committee, the question
of observer status for international organizations should be put as the
first item on the agenda for the next meeting to be held on 15-18 September
1987. He would report under his own responsibility to the TNC on the
current status of the activities of the GNS. It was so agreed. He invited
delegations to submit papers on the five elements of the initial
negotiating plan in time for the next meeting.