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04-08-2008, 04:44 PM

erniebro
XYZ Probe modification

I've spent the last couple of days tracking down how to use the digitizing capability of Mach3 to impleme

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several threads that were very helpful but didn't quite fill in all the blanks- Another Aussie Auto Tool Zero So in the interest of saving someone in the future the trouble of figuring this out here is a cook book on are using Mach3. Here is a video of how this works: YouTube - Mach3 CNC Probe Tool

Theory of operation: Mach3 allows you to read an input line through the parallel port that can be used fo conjunction with the G-code probe command (G31) you can drive your gantry under software control unt very accurately move your bit to the plate. Depending on how the plate is oriented, you can find an X, Y Step 1: Wire up a probe circuit. Cut a length of 16ga wire about 12' long- long enough to reach from your controller box to the front of y attach one end of the wire to an available I/O pin. I used pin 15 on my HobbyCNC Pro board. You may al the wire and ground.

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Step 2: Fabricate probe plates. Build a touch plate. I made one plate out of a piece of aluminum angle. The other plate I made is a 1" pi 0.25" plexiglass. The bottom of the plexiglass has a cross hair scribed in it. The top has a 1/16" circular g press fit into. Cut the groove so that is is a slight interference fit with the tube so it will stay put. Attach y

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Step 3: Download and install the MachBlue screens Download the MachBlue screen set from the ArtSoft web site http://www.machsupport.com/screens.php Unzip the file and run the MachBlue_setup.exe program to install the screen set and .jpg screens. Step 4: Download and install MachBlue modifications. Download the BlueProbeVer3.zip file http://www.cnczone.com/forums/attach...1&d=1207688579 Unzip the file and move the MachBlue.set file into your Mach3 folder. Then move the MacBlue_ProgramR

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/MachTestScreens folder. NOTE: It looks like Artsoft did some reorganizing of their web site so the link to the Blue Screenset has changed http://www.machsupport.com/screens/MachBlue_setup.zip The modifications to the screen set are here http://www.cnczone.com/forums/attach...2&d=1207685850 Step 5: Startup Mach3 Start up Mach3. Go to the "View" menu "Load Screens" and choose MachBlue. Your screen should now lo

Step 6: Configure the probe pin Go to the Config menu and choose "Ports and Pins". In the "Input Signals" list, enable "Probe", specify th plugged your probe circuit into). Make sure you save your configuration file when you are done.

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Step 7: Use the Probe panel software Always start out by touching the probe plate to the bit. If your circuit is working, the Touch Test LED in t only need to run 1 wire to the probe. If your router is plugged in and correctly grounded you shouldn't ne controller board. The new Probe panel features several buttons that allow you to probe in the four cardinal directions, find instance, if you click on the x- arrow, after a 1 second pause the gantry will start advancing in the - x dir exactly at the plate and the DRO will show you the location in current coordinates. The other 3 arrows wo other cardinal directions. The probe routine will run a maximum of 2" before it stops, so you need to jog you start. The round circle with cross hairs button in the middle activates the probe search for the center of a round cardinal directions looking for the insides of the pipe and then computes where the center of the pipe is a After it finishes moving, the DRO's for x and y are the location of the center in current coordinates. Finally, the z button will advance the gantry towards the table until it hits your plate. If there is a value s zeroed to the work top and the gantry will retreat 0.25" above the plate. If you put a zero value in the pl and the Z DRO will give you the vertical coordinate of the plate top.

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That's it. Enjoy!


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04-08-2008, 06:26 PM

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blackbeard52
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Very good post!!! many of us dont quite understand the concept of operation. This will clear up alot of the explainatoin of many types of probes... Thanks so much Bob

04-08-2008, 06:33 PM

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Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Tucson AZ Posts: 1,235

Mr.Chips
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Welcome to the CNCZone.

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A really super job of documentation and photos, very well thought out. These are tools almost everyone needs. And you supplied what looks like all the information needed to build and use. Can't wait until you post the next project. I have subscribed to this thread in antisipation of more neat projects to come. Thanks for sharing.

04-08-2008, 07:01 PM

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Mr.Chips
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Add a automatic Z axis zero function

How about incorporating a Z axis zero position utility into the centering tool. Since you need to look down in the tube, how about putting it beside the tube at the 3:00 position. It would zero the X and Y then go up and to the 3:00 position and go down and zero Z then up and back to the center of the hole. Or something like that.

04-08-2008, 07:37 PM

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: United States Posts: 54

erniebro Mr. Chips-

I started out doing that and quickly discovered that you had to get the cross hairs exactly aligned with the cardinal axii of your machine, plus you have to input the additional offsets. By putting the cross hair center in the center of the pipe, you don't have to worry about alignment of the tool and you don't need to know any offsets and you don't need to know the diameter of your cutting tool. I'll admit it is a little bit of a pain looking down the pipe. Maybe I should add some led's so you can see better...

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I'm finding that I don't always want to find or set the depth when I'm finding a center, so I separated the functions. Here's a video of centering combined with depth findingYouTube - Center Finder

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YouTube - Center Finder

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04-08-2008, 08:40 PM

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Wow, this is great

04-08-2008, 09:11 PM

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blackbeard52
Simple and complete

I hadnt thought of using the top of the tube as your depth gauge...you are a genius in your own mind.....lol Great work and easy to construct.... Bob

04-09-2008, 11:34 AM

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Mr.Chips
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Hmmmm Must be doing something wrong, the below screen shot is what I see after loading screen. There was not a folder named "Mach Test Screens" so I created one and copied MachBlue set into it. Any ideas?
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04-09-2008, 11:58 AM

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erniebro Mister Chips-

Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: United States Posts: 54

It looks like you missed step 3 of the instructions. Make sure you download a copy of MachBlue from the Artsoft web site, unzip it and run the install program(MachBlue_setup.exe). Here's the site - http://www.machsupport.com/screens.htm or http://www.artsoftcontrols.com/artso... /downloads.htm You will also have to do step 4 again. I edited the step 3 directions above to make it more clear. Sorry about that. -Ernie

04-09-2008, 12:32 PM

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Mr.Chips
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It Works

Originally Posted by erniebro

Mister ChipsIt looks like you missed step 3 of the instructions. Make sure you download a copy of MachBlue from the Artsoft web site, unzip it and run the install program(MachBlue_setup.exe). Here's the site - http://www.machsupport.com /screens.htm or http://www.artsoftcontrols.com/artso.../downloads.htm You will also have to do step 4 again. I edited the step 3 directions above to make it more clear. Sorry about that. -Ernie Thanks Ernie it works now. Thanks

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cwiliam will try thank you

04-09-2008, 04:48 PM

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Great post erniebro.

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