Just saw a blog say โbeware of upper caste folks they are bad.โ On a Tumblr post. Tell me that isnโt casteist af? Seriously, what do you all want?
They are being so openly casteist and they are not ashamed of anything.
Casteism of all kind is horrible and if you donโt think it is then you are part of the problem. You are literally responsible for keeping the caste system running.
Do some self reflection.
What woah? Theyโre going full mask off. dismiss any and everything coming out of an upper caste Hinduโs mouth (code word for : anyone who isnโt actively being anti hindu)
My last response to all u dumb bitches (literally, u people r not worth my peace).
The scripture Manusmriti is the most vile thing known to mankind equally violent as other religious scriptures. If u read it (like Dr. Ambedkar did but I am sure all of u never read), it clearly espouses a varna sys wherein it is not only highly misogynist but patriarchal and very casteist. (Read: 'Caste: Its Mechanism, Genesis and Dev). so Manusmriti deserves to be burned and ur religion is not better than any religion. Also if u read the Annihilation of Caste. Ambedkar said Hindus r mean people bcoz they will only ever be loyal to their castes. Unlike Muslims and Christians who use cruelty, Hindus may not but also unlike Muslims and Christians, Hindus will never look out for each other bcoz they will see their caste first. Also check how many inter-caste couples get shot or Dalit men being beaten when they get married like upper caste people. Being a keyboard warrior is good when u know nothing of the ground-reality.
Also, caste and varna r the same thing. Indian society wasn't a fairy dreamtopia before the British. Rampant casteism, misogyny and patriarchy (Read Uma Chakravarti: Gendering Caste and Beyond the Altekarian Paradigm) defined Hindu Society, the British fucked it up a bit more. Also, the word 'caste' is a Spanish word used for the varna sys. So Varna and caste r the same things, stop being so dumb. Varna/caste sys is a shit sys and needs to be abolished which u bitches r clearly not doing since u ofc benefit from it. If hinduism as an oppressive sys enables marginalization, it needs to be overthrown like Ambedkar envisioned.
Also, Kayasthas were able to be socially mobile acc to a process called 'Sanskritization' (M.N. Srinivas). But keep in mind, that they were hated by Brahmins for transcending their 'low' status. So Sanskritization isn't easy. Look at when in villages, Dalit men climb horses for their weddings and they r brutally beaten by upper-caste dickheads or even Dalit women r forcibly raped by upper-caste men (Baby Kamble; The Prisons We Broke). Please comment on this also. Hinduism is a great religion! Why not!!
Hinduism is a not a fairy dreamtopia like u think it is. Upper-caste people thrive on Dalit exclusion and oppression. And dickheads on the net like u shout "Hindu khatre mein hai' when nobody is as obsessed as Muslims as u r with them. If u want to bring change, support reservation (Which u people will burn your asses in gasoline but never do) and not die whenever u see someone eating meat. Go fuck yourselves. Secularism is dead in India and so is equality, liberty, and fraternity.
Peace and I hope u people suffer 10 times the pain Dalits hv suffered for centuries. Also, read more. It is good for your tiny brains. I would suggest more works of Dr. Ambedkar, Uma Chakravarti, Romila Thapar, Kancha Illiah, M.N. Srinivas etc.
And yes, to fight oppression, I will always go full mask off.
Also, if being anti-upper caste (who hv done nothing but cause pain to Dalits) is being anti-Hindu. Then I will gladly be Anti-Hindu (Ambedkar said the same thing btw that casteism=Hinduism)
Boo Fucking hoo that people r calling out upper caste bitches.
Also @rhysaka, babe if u r not upper-caste and supporting Hindutva, I pity u. U r digging ur own grave. Get away from the internalized casteism and misogyny in u. I hope u find ur peace. Also, I am a 'reverse casteist' wholeheartedly if it means supporting Dalit and Muslim rights and not bowing down to Zionism and Hindutva and calling out casteists (Just wanted to let u know ;))
Free Palestine! Jai Bhim! Lal Salaam! Falasteen Aabaad Bashaad! Falasteen Azaad Bashaad.
And also Fuck u :))
You said something in another reblog about "hindu lives matter." You see we don't consider dalits and scavengers or whoever you talked about as being outside the hindu fold. When we say hindu lives matter we mean the lives of all hindus matter. (Yes many dalits are hindus. I am a hindu and Iโm not upper caste.)
And Hindu lives matter doesn't mean that the lives of anybody else, say muslims matters any less than us.
Everyone matters. Humanity matters and for the greater good of humanity casteism must end. If you think any differently then just say so.
Idc weather it is varna or plain caste or whatever. Iโm a person who wants it gone from our society for good. Also you spoke of reservations. Fine, I support reservations because casteism is still a big problem in society. But for how long? Can you stop people from hating each other and the mass violence that erupts over reservations? Can you stop the blatant hindu hatred in neo buddhist circles as well? And if someone dares to condemn them for their hatred there is an army of people like you who hurl abuses at them.
And you are no different than the casteists you hate. Look at yourself! You are asking for 10 times the pain that dalit people have suffered in the past on others. These people who were not even breathing on this earth when all that happened. People who had no control over their birth. What are you doing if not being casteist? Be fr. Ik people born in upper caste circles are privileged and all as compared to the dalits but arenโt we punishing them for crimes that they never committed? Isnโt this THE VERY CASTEISM THAT WE HATE??? PUNISHING SOMEONE FOR BEING BORN IN A CERTAIN GROUP? HATING EVERYONE FROM THAT GROUP? ABUSING EVEN THOSE WHO SPEAK OF ENDING THE CASTE SYSTEM?
I know you wonโt understand this. Ik you are too full of hate to take even one word I said seriously and youโll only end up ridiculing me because hate destroys rational thinking and compassion.
Tbh this is too much for me. I cannot tolerate the hate I get from people like you. I have met so many people from all communities but never have I felt so much hate as I did rn interacting with you guys and I always feel this when I interact with radicalised people who know nothing but spouting hate for someone and being proud about it. Sure your institutions and the marxist historians who wrote our history provide yโall with a solid backing and that is where all of this is coming from.
Btw you spoke of Ambedkar, do you even know what Ambedkar wrote about Muslims?
Just never interact with my blog ever again.
This was literally so unhinged.
@rhysaka Aww I am so sorry u got butthurt on basic history. But your level of whataboutery is insane, gurl.
Reservation deserves to be implemented as long as people like u claim your 'imagined casteism.' Hv u ever cleaned a family's leftovers, have u ever been humiliated for your surname, have u ever been forced to breastfeed someone else's child,have u ever been excluded, or oppressed just bcoz u don't hv the proper surname?
NO.
But yes when someone calls out this oppression, u people r like pls don't do reverse casteism. Babe, people like u should be thankful reservations r in place and dalits r doing things via the legal route. If Dalits started behaving as upper caste people did in the oast, all upper-caste people would hv been lynched by now.
Also, reservation is not bad and is sorely needed. But when ur caste comrades get hysterical over it, then that is not a Dalit person's problem when the latter has been excluded and oppressed for so long.
Also love ur priorities. When I wished upon u the pain of Dalits, instead of focusing on the pain they hv gone thru, u were more interested in how it would affect the butthurt sanghis who implode when someone mispronounced their surname incorrectly
Really shows how u care abt upper castes more than Dalit pain. Technically, u r not a humanist. Simply a misguided know it all who is infected with internalized casteism and misogyny. I will pray for u.
Also I don't hate upper castes. I just DESPISE their misuse of their privilege and their discrimination and elitism.
If u want me to love them, then tell each of ur upper caste comrades to stop being dickheads and then I will promise u, I will love them as much as I love anyone else. Also if u wanna know more abt the relation bw Buddhism and Hinduism read Dr. Ambedkar. Btw, Brahmins hated Buddhists first not the other way round (Read Madness of Manu by Sharmila Rege).
Also as a humanist, Dalit lives Matter and I couldn't care less abt upper caste bitches being offended by my post. It's not HATE just POINTING OUT THE FACTS. And if that makes u butthurt and kindly Suck it and leave (really shows ur casts privilege).
Also, what abt dr.Ambedkar writing on Muslims tho? How is it relevant to this argument. Could you read more of Ambedkar before u come here? U see I understand a Sanghi brain can't always comprehend basic sociology, but I would invite u to try genuinely. U can even read all these of my sources and we can hv a book review literally.
Also I will shit on upper caste privilege, as long as they act like dickeheads to Dalits and Muslims. This is not reverse casteism. This is being aware and breaking the status quo.
Also @ghost-of-the-wind, if this discourse was a table, what do u bring to it? The only half you bring to the table is your lower half and a barely functional kid brain that is forced to do name-calling with no real argument. Sanghis do be having low IQ ngl if all u do is call people 'Larpers' and shut down when someone presents u a good argument. Boo fucking Hoo and continue crying and wetting ur bed becoz of it
Peace :))
Love,
From a Proud LARPER ;)
First of all, Iโm not an upper caste person.
Second of all, as a person who has faced casteism I wouldnโt wish it on anyone. That is why I called you out for saying that you wish 10 times more pain on others.
No one is denying that casteism exists. We are advocating for a caste free society.
Unlike you, I donโt think of caste based distinctions when I speak of Hindus.
To me a dalit is as much a hindu as an upper caste person. The solution isnโt wishing pain on others. The solution is building bridges and educating people. To show people how dalits have suffered without calling for the same to happen to others. If you can make that distinction then sure Iโll support everything you say.
And as I told you Iโm not against reservations. We need it because people still cling to their castes and oppress others. Our education system has failed us in properly educating people about caste and showing us how dalits suffered and instilling kinship with them.
Iโm all for upliftment of Dalits and talking about casteism but I wonโt sit through it translating into hatred for others. Are you capable of doing that? Are you capable of sitting through a talk about casteism without throwing words like โupper caste bitches, Sanghi bitchesโ into the conversation? Condemnation of upper caste privilege is necessary but when it turns into hatred it will only create more trouble and this wonโt affect us but this will translate on dalits and the low caste more. They have to suffer because of this. But why do I even expect a little responsibility from your end? Your hatred transcends all this. You are not up for a solution but youโre up for creating more hatred by burning bridges.
Casteism can only be solved by bringing people together not flinging them apart.
You want to show how upper caste people oppressed dalits? Go ahead! Do that!
But as a lower caste person I wonโt ever support inequality in any form. I wonโt ever support casteism in any form.
If you get this you get this.
Also regarding what Ambedkar said about muslims, I brought that up because of the slogans you threw at the end. Ambedkar had very firm views about Islam and Muslims and itโs interesting to see this communist-muslim-Ambedkarite tie up. Ambedkar had also said he doesnโt agree with communism.
Ummm ma'am but he did say Muslims are better than Hindus in the Annihilation of Caste. Also, there is a difference b/w Communism, Socialism and Marxism. And I am not a liberal but rather I hate them.
Also, I am sorry u faced casteism. But aligning yourself with Hindutva will not help u if u want to be anti-caste. Stop repeating urself. Also Ambedkar did not consider Dalits as Hindus if u read 'Who were the Shudras'. Read more Dr. Ambedkar as he uplifted people. Also, even if u yourself r not a Dalit person, u r still an oppressor caste person so shut up and fuck off.
I am all for building bridges btw. Build one first from a Dalit's home to a temple and let them enter a temple. Then, I will build a PROPER bridge. Also Stop repeating urself. Casteism against dalits is shit.
Also, I am a hater if Sanghi bitches (oops!) like u get pissed. After all, my love for humanity transcends the hate of ur Hindutva. I will always stand with the victim and never with the oppressor. So yes, build a bridge and tell me when u do. I will meet u srsly and apologize.
Idc if Ambedkar considered Dalits as hindus or not. Iโm speaking facts. There are dalit hindus. Stop being so darn stupid and denying their existence.
Also you claim that you hate communists and liberals, is that why you said โlaal Salamโ along with the other slogans? Lol
And thank you for accepting that you hate us. Notice how all the hating is coming from your side. Hindutva believes in annihilation of caste and caste based discrimination.
Now about the temples, big temples of India and most of the other temples are open to all Hindus. There is no discrimination in those temples.
This doesnโt mean that I am denying the discrimination that does happens. Like the cases you mentioned from different parts of the country but these cases donโt represent the full picture that majority of hindu temples allow everyone to enter its doors without asking them for their caste. We are a country of over a billion and casteism still exists so of course you will find such criminal attitudes and cases from bigoted upper caste people but you canโt say that itโs happening in all temples because that would be a blatant lie!
Youโre again projecting these things on everyone and making generalisations. Iโve never been stopped from entering any temple and neither have my friends who are dalits. We have been to some big temples in India and I can personally attest to this and so would many people.
By building bridges I meant this -
We have a long long way to go before dalits can get proper justice and kinship with others in the society but Iโm hopeful towards the future.
I wish nothing but the caste system to fall and people to accept each other and live together.
If this is hatred then sure Iโm a hateful bigot for saying that casteism cannot be ended by being more hateful.
Please stop replying. This is becoming very repetitive and ik you will keep bringing in more hate and not any solutions.
I said I hate liberals, not Communists. Pls read properly or check ur eyesight. But then again what do I expect. U people don't even know the difference b/w a liberal and a communist. Sad that u cannot do a simple Google search. Truly DUMB of u. READ MORE, dear sanghi.
where does Hindutva believe in caste sys annihilation tho?
and OOOH! I hv seen everyone enter a temple so idt caste discrimination happens. Shows ur privilege smh.
Yes, I hate sanghis. Cry abt it.
Also what u describe is the exception and not the norm so stfu, dim-wit. And read the diff b/w a Liberal and a Communist pls
Also, cry abt ur stupid cult leader M*di. Also, to build bridges, the onus is on savarna bitches to check their privilege and stop oppression. Dali people hv been marginalized for so long. Also, u r too dumb for me. Like I thought u were just sanghi but the fact that u don't know the diff b/w liberalism and communism really disappointed me.
U will never be enough for even a cookie-cutter political debate if u dont read shit and just repeat urself hopelessly. U bore me and U will never be good anything in ur life if u dont know the diff b/w liberalism and communism. Fuck u and ur tiny brain. Just continue to do cult worship and dehumanize Dalits. U dont deserve my attention and neither do u deserve a voice.
Peace :))
@anonymouswarriorhumanist GOD, YOU'RE SUCH A HATER. Your life won't improve by hating a community. You talk so much about the discrimination, but did you ever try to do something about it? Other than wishing 10 times worse for others? Cry baby.
