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My main thing here is my KGTAC Page Analysis posts. I also occasionaly reblog anything Homestuck,Undertale, or Oneshot Related, one day ill reblog something OMORI related as well.

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KGTAC ACT 2 (Page 2079) COMPARED TO HOME-SKILLET PAGE 1

KGTAC Act 2 is seemingly (probably) a reboot of Home-Skillet. I wonder how the connection to KGTAC will be revealed in time but eh. Not the point of this post. Im just here to compare the first panel. (Also, as far as i know, I’ve read all of Home-Skillet, unless Cole suddenly decided to update Home-skillet after leaving it for a year (Since I’m pulling from a 2021 MSPFA archive and it was last updated in 2020))

KGTAC ACT 2 (Page 2079):

Home-Skillet Page 1:

Alright, So the sprite for Fred Wilmore is slightly different, makes sense since this is a remake. But here’s to noting the More notable differences. 1. Desk is VERY different, I can’t even tell if there’s anything on there, If i had to guess, its probably to be more consistent with how did this, Where everything was a bit big for John. I think its a bit oversized even compared to that. Which leads me wondering if a computer is even there, Since why else would it be off the panel.

2. There are no gremlin cards on the floor. I guess either they’ve been moved, or they’ve been sent to the shadow realm

3. The posters are entirely different. I have zero clue on what the left one is about, Especially since its too cut off for me to find anything on a reverse image search. But the one on the right is like a gotmilk poster, i found that out by looking at the link on the Web archive

4. A pool suddenly exists, This was not in Home-Skillet, i get the feeling this might be of some importance, or at least a gag of sorts.

There are other differences but other than that, these are the ones that came off as notable to me. I still wonder how KGTAC and Home-Skillet will fit together since from what i read of Home-Skillet, its somewhat derivative of Homestuck, and more importantly, they play SBURB (Floppy disk edition) Maybe I’ll make a post theorizing more about what all this could mean for KGTAC, I should also consider finally joining the Discord for KGTAC to see if theres any theories there as I’ve intentionally not joined just in case there were spoilers on what happens next. But as the author said they’re going on break. It’s probably safe now. Edit: Next analysis is out! Click here

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Best Character Stuck in a Timeloop

Propaganda for Niko:

Ok, I'm going to be honest here. This, if accepted would be the most "Technically a timeloop" thing in this competition. It's recognized in a few places in the story as the game repeating itself but never directly stated as a TIMELOOP. Following the "Groundhog's Day" timeloop image, in order to break the time loop you need to do the Solstice route (True Ending) to finally get Niko home for good. But if you don't do the Solstice Route and instead just do a Post-Game Route. You get small hints of the world repeating, Like Niko recognizing your name but not knowing where it's from and one time Niko needs to sign their name to progress and in the Post-Game route Niko notices that their name is already on there, faded. Here are two videos on Post Game Differences

Propaganda for Shinji:

Trapped in a death game time loop since 2002 ✌ (seriously every time he and the other characters from the series cameo they're implied to still be trapped in the timeloop. Let them out)

The best clip episode to ever exist???????????

Vote Niko! Here is some amateur art i quickly drew up in an hour, to serve as propaganda!

BONUS PROPAGANDA FOR NIKO, i spent a few days on this

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Anonymous asked:

thought to let you know, if you liked the floppy deck stuff in kgtac act 2 they finally started explaining it.

Thank you for informing me of this. I have re-read the entirety of Act 1 thanks to this information between the time you sent this message (Thursday 12/19/24) and saturday (12/21/24) . The analysis is coming back, and it shall be comically long.

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Heya, small status update on the Home-Skillet Analysis post. I'm still working on it! I've just been going through some extreme burn out. Like i withdrew from my hardest college class a month ago and i haven't been able to get much done on this thing. I've just felt exhausted. But I've made significant progress. I've done everything in my analysis but the Home-Skillet part of it (I did all of KGTAC and the BETA for Home-Skillet as a refresher.) I'm not a very fast writer so this'll take a while longer. But the analysis is still being worked on. I promise!

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Best Character Stuck in a Timeloop

Propaganda for Niko:

Ok, I'm going to be honest here. This, if accepted would be the most "Technically a timeloop" thing in this competition. It's recognized in a few places in the story as the game repeating itself but never directly stated as a TIMELOOP. Following the "Groundhog's Day" timeloop image, in order to break the time loop you need to do the Solstice route (True Ending) to finally get Niko home for good. But if you don't do the Solstice Route and instead just do a Post-Game Route. You get small hints of the world repeating, Like Niko recognizing your name but not knowing where it's from and one time Niko needs to sign their name to progress and in the Post-Game route Niko notices that their name is already on there, faded. Here are two videos on Post Game Differences

Propaganda for Shinji:

Trapped in a death game time loop since 2002 ✌ (seriously every time he and the other characters from the series cameo they're implied to still be trapped in the timeloop. Let them out)

The best clip episode to ever exist???????????

Vote Niko! Here is some amateur art i quickly drew up in an hour, to serve as propaganda!

Anonymous asked:

thought to let you know, if you liked the floppy deck stuff in kgtac act 2 they finally started explaining it.

Thank you for informing me of this. I have re-read the entirety of Act 1 thanks to this information between the time you sent this message (Thursday 12/19/24) and saturday (12/21/24) . The analysis is coming back, and it shall be comically long.

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CHAINED Summer SAHCON Trailer

Alright here's the Chained SAHCon trailer made by Clodinator. EOA1 still isn't out yet. We've been working on EOA1 for months and it should be out soon. This trailer actually includes a few scenes from EOA1. so i hope y'all enjoy

-Max Nexus

Here's the SAHCON trailer for the MSPFA im working on with a few others.

What do you make of the Home-Skillet KGTAC breakup 💔 (I'm being overly dramatic on purpose)

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Overall positive, Because it means we can get actual numbers on people who read Home-Skillet, It means KGTAC doesn't disappear from the mspfa homepage every single time H-S goes on hiatus (Which always made me sad as KGTAC is one of my favorite fanventures), and if it helps Cole feel less stressed about writing H-S, then it's fine. Though it is nice to get conformation that these two adventures are directly connected storywise with the line "While these acts are directly connected to each other" The only bad part is that i have to find the page i was on again, which'll take a bit. (Especially since i haven't been reading it for a while since i don't have the time to do analyses, and i want to continue analyzing H-S it's just that I've been fairly busy with college and I've been working on my part for the EOA1 Animation for Chained, and I'd rather focus on that for now.)

KGTAC Analysis Pages 2229-2425

First Analysis Previous Analysis Sburb Dog Analysis Next Analysis Hell yes! KGTAC Act 2: Home-Skillet is back baby! Here is my analysis, not too much lore wise outside of me noticing some things i missed before but I'm just glad it's back!

KGTAC PAGE 2229

2229: Well this is new! The author seems to be distancing themselves from Homestuck even more. The old house in the Beta looked like Rose house in it's vibes with a dash of John's in it's exterior

HOME-SKILLET BETA PAGE 193

KGTAC PAGE 2230

2230: Ana's house didn't have an outer area like this at all. It sorta looks like she lives in some sort of city here. Although this background looks so goddamn weird, It's like the sidewalk juts upward constantly here. 2235: Ooh, interesting. The next page animation has direct parallels!

KGTAC PAGE 2236

2236: In the Beta it was "Ana: Play a jazzy saxophone refrain." The music here is actually the same as before, it's generally the same as before at the start, just a different environment. The nanny seemingly walked into another house? Then we start seeing a bigger difference. A Showtime remix starts playing as we see FRED TRY EATING HIS GREENS LMAO. This is what we in the business call A REALLY COOL ANIMATION. i kinda wish it was actually playable but that would've been a lot more work. THEN FRED STARTS DANCING. Goddamn we can just make a full Fred Wilmore sprite sheet now, can we. That was an amazing animation. well worth the wait! Now on the theory crafting side of things. The only thing that come to mind is that Fred was expecting EDMOND to be there to eat his greens. Despite as it says in Page 2118 of the holy text "Unfortunately he ran away when you were young. He was a very good dog, though" Though to be fair, we don't know what Fred considers "young". Fred might be one of those kids who considers himself from 2 years ago "young". Another weird thing is that the STRIFE text is in the opposite direction when compared to homestuck... No look! HOMESTUCK STRIFE

KGTAC STRIFE (extracted)

2237: I wonder what HIP stands for? This clearly will be incredibly important in ACT 2 DAY 5 ROLL 2 INTERMISSION 3 2244: What's with the red eye? I guess it's just to represent that he's utterly manic right now. 2245: Beautiful animation! This also gives us a better look into the living room here which is nice for anyone looking to make a recreation. (I was actually trying to make one a while back...) 2246: We see a big package (probably his computer) there. It has a watery logo. Kinda looks like a surfboard on a wave? 2247: There's Photochat! 2248: Oh that's a different box, also it's published/made by SKYACOM. Interesting... 2252: Ok so we know that logo belongs to a company called GREENROOM now (Like, is this a reference to Doc Scratch? His room was green, i guess it could also be the felt manor back in Homestuck's Act 3 Intermission. Could also be nothing.), also we now see the desktop! Interesting it says INDEX for the home button, we also now have the EXACT TIME which is 5:30 PM, this will be useful for setting up a timeline! (Not that I'd really bother doing that right now.)

KGTAC PAGE 2253

Homestuck Page 6

2253: Wait what the hell! Random Act 1 Cursor Appearance? This sorta popped up in Act 1 of Homestuck due to the fact that Homestuck was originally designed to be made entirely in flash. It's interesting that it's showing up here. Maybe it means something, maybe Cole didn't want to animate Fred grabbing Photochat then putting it into the pc. 2255: Hm he's been to a library, maybe there is some credence to him being of the mind aspect (/j) 2264: Ah! I can't believe Cole was so bold to do it so early to kill off such a major character so early, to the forgetful ones in the audience back in my analysis of the FLOPPY DECK (my beloved) i talked about the fact there are only 3 points on the floppy deck, when the BETA Floppy deck had 4 points. I made a crackpot theory that one of the character's would die in Home-Skillet as a big event early on in the story. And well, here we have it folks! Fred is dead, dead dead, deadity dead dead, dead. What a bold move. his death moved me to tears. KGTAC RELEASE

2265: Sweet! Just putting this to note but the pages for this day's of updates (2/3/24) weren't released all at once, we had to wait like an hour when Photochat was downloading. The images were actually uploaded before this and i probably saw them before most because i decided to check because i noticed some pages were being released 1 at a time. Just putting this for historical reasons for anyone reading this in the far future in the [S] END OF ACT 2 flash when Nan unites everyone for the big fight against LORD HUSSIE (/j, man I'm including a lot of jokes in this one) because this small detail would probably be forgotten a few years from now. Heck, I'd probably forget it. 2276: LMAO 2279: Farty Gas, an excellent choice of a name good sir (Lol) 2285: Holy heck, Fred says frick! Also i love the fact he wrote this as if it were a letter, even ending it with a "Take Care" Zimodo in the comment section summarized it best. MEME

SIDENOTE 1: I just noticed… For some reason there's barely any "NAME: DO STUFF" in the ENTIRETY of Home-Skillet. Its mainly just DO STUFF, like seriously. it's not set up like a standard Homestuck command at all. Even KGTAC ACT 1 + INTERMISSION did that when a character was doing stuff. It wouldn't even be forced. Like in pg 2236 it could've been "[S] Ana: Play the sax in triumph." but it's just not? Like before the HIATUS, there was like 1 use, now its like half-n-half and I'm not sure if this is intentional or accidental. Even worse, we started seeing a lot of the standard Homestuck command structure starting February, not before... so even after the Hiatus the command structure didn't include names. Is it because Ana and Fred are talking to each other to prevent confusion or is there some deeper reason... PRE HIATUS

FEBRUARY FOR SOME REASON

2295: Death theory… (Specifically, DC can't enter into his session as his FLOPPY DECK, seemingly died in a valiant battle against time. This is incredibly bad for when you're playing the game that kills you when you don't play it. Now of course this is assuming that HomeSkillet is operating under the idea that the meteors are like destined to hit you and not that the games summon the meteors (I personally don't understand why people think that, was that ever confirmed or is that just popular fanon) But overall, this likely doesn't bode well for DC) 2303: ARG WARNING, DEAR GOD I HAVE TO SOLVE A MYSTERY NOW THESE ARE IMAGES… or not It looks like BrainFuck so uh… Yeah i don't think it means anything big (aka i don't know how i'd even transcribe the text into a working program! Also thinking about it, this might be the item duplication thing i joked about earlier, y'know with the fact that if items are just code on a floppy disc, whats preventing people from copying that floppy. Or in this case putting something on the floppy disc to get an item. Unknown: Crosshair activated towards sector 121 09

newone: Crosshair activated towards sector head_port 1 fuck

(Might actually be helga port 1?) We can guess that these are the coordinates for the meteors, for obvious reasons. And somehow P(ee)P(ee) did something to affect these coordinates. Very interesting. 2311: Light aspect /j 2326: Yep, it's green. Took you awhile farty-gas. It took you page 28 of the BETA to do that. 2332: Reference to Poltergeist 1982, Just noting this because i looked it up. 2335: Welp, that's confirmation. Edmond is dead, Grandma just sorta hid the fact because he probably was 5 at the time. 2359: YES! NO SYLLADEX GAMING! I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE A SBURBVENTURE WHERE A CHARACTER DOESN'T HAVE A SYLLADEX. (To the point I've always imagined making a character for one that doesn't have one, or has some notable issue preventing them from using it fully.) 2390: Music is the same, the art is different when compared to the BETA version KGTAC ACT 2 2390

Home-Skillet BETA PAGE 159

2410: If you don't want to waste time by leaving things behind, try carrying them Doofus. Too big? That's what the FLOPPY DECK is for Farty Gas. 2411: Interestingly enough, the image for the timer (381.gif) is in the wrong order if we'd line up these images as if they come in 1 after the other. As if it was meant to be put in a different order. Presumably after page 2404 (Because that's 380.gif) SIDENOTE 2: there is a unused image here! I guess to improve the pacing this got cut out last minute. 376.GIF

2420: I'm just going to show my comment here

2425: Fun fact, i saw this image like 20 seconds before the page went up, because ever since the loading screen, i've been checking for that sort of stuff. It looks like we are about to hit an [S] Page. SIDENOTE 3: The Saxophone was always there lmao, i can't believe i missed it, it was even referenced in the text of 2186. I guess you miss stuff when you end up analyzing nearly 100 pages worth of content while trying to balance 6 college classes at the same time.

SIDENOTE 4: These have all been pretty good panels so far, I love all the work that's been put into them, with all these details, especially early on when Cole went and animated the runs there.

So that's the end of the analysis, I'd like to thank everyone here, I should do a re-reading of Home-Skillet to see what I've forgotten. I hope you enjoy and lets see what comes next! Sorry that it took so long, i wasn't exactly putting in tons of work to get this out soon. There's no rush. Y'know.

Nope, In my usual fashion, Digging up one thing digs up another. And I've discovered CONSTUCK. An April fools joke made in 2022 that i missed which is a "KGTAC RELEASE" with Act 1 just being the "Beta" https://mspfa.com/?s=27317&p=1490 1: Ah yes, Karkat 2: A general thing i've noticed is that it looks like each panel was drawn by a different person. 9: What an amazing reboot. KGTAC DISCORD GOES TO A CONVENTION PAGE 52

CONSTUCK PAGE 12

12: Holy **** Lois! KGTAC Server goes to a convention? Honestly, i had to dig a bit to figure out this is commentary on it as i never read this. The turnaround here is insane tbh looking into it, March 25th the public apology comes out, March 29th the commentary on it on it comes out as an April fools joke. Mildly impressed. Though i can't help but feel bad for the people behind KGTAC Server goes to a convention here being referenced like this. Personally speaking I'd keel over and die here, though to be fair it just takes me remembering something stupid i did a decade ago to make that happen. 13:Lmao "astrosized into out" 28: Now for the reason why I'm looking at this. FRED WILMORE STRIKES AGAIN 30: Helga? I can't remember who that is… also Nan's here and her dialog implies she's writing Home-Skillet. Maybe lore important, maybe the author is just speaking through Nan as some extra commentary on KGTAC Discord goes to a convention. 31: Nan is a Muse of Time? Neat! 32: And now for the main reason im here… TO BE CONTINUED… This if it's not just a silly April fools joke draws a direct connection between ACT 1 and ACT 2 of KGTAC. It's not much to go off of due to it's dubious canonicity but we already know MSPFA exists in the actual comic itself thanks to mspa reader to cite a more recent example and also NAN went on MSPFA in the flash [S] It was the ideas it inspired (and also uh, Act 1 takes place in what could be considered Earth, modern day. So MSPFA existing makes sense) Thanks to these facts it means that it's not impossible this is a sign of things to come, that perhaps we see how ACT 2: Home-Skillet fits into ACT 1: Karkat goes to a Convention

And now this is the end.

Also while looking i found some unlisted pages! read em if ya want! https://mspfa.com/?s=27317&p=1057 https://mspfa.com/?s=27317&p=822

Now this is REALLY the end, No PSYCHE X3 Combo's here….

See! it's just the end. Thanks for reading my analysis, Here's to the next one. I'm also less busy as of late so i should be able to get these out more frequently than when KGTAC took a break before, so i don't think i have to change the general format of this series. 1 MONTH LATER....

Me in 3/17/24 Land here. Man this took a while, as i said before, i wasn't making this a high priority because I'm working on a MSPFA called CHAINED + 4 college classes gives me time only if i make time for it. But yeah, I hope you enjoyed this analysis, if you noticed something i didn't, have any questions, or your own theories. I'd like to here em, my asks are open!

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An AU in which through multiverse shenanigans Sburb and SURVEY_PROGRAM get switched

This results in a doomed session for both games as Jade would be unable to close the dark fountains due to her physical separation and the deltarune crew would be lacking in a space/time player.

[Also Kris is a Derse dreamer, not a Prospit dreamer, I just had a specific idea for an image in my head and drew it without considering the implications, and I'm not redrawing that pic again. Let's just say that when the games got swapped Kris received a prophetic dream intended for Jade, okay? Okay.]

God i love this image here specifically.

It's like the perfect reaction here for Dave, it's so funny. God i wish this was like a fanfic or something now. I guess another thing to note here is the fact that i like how Noelle's the one to find out about SBURB, it works very well. It just makes sense.

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same anon as before, i do mean Sburb Dog. look at page 2134!

Oh this? I can't believe i never spotted this. I guess i was too focused on the FLOPPY DECK to notice.

I actually did find this online, but i second guessed myself and thought you must've missed a comma or something because i could find ONE (1) forum post on it and a mention in a Reddit post and that's it.

From the forum post is this image of Sburb Dog, it is not as well drawn as the one in Karkat goes to a convention
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Apologies about that. I'm actually kind of curious though, What is SBURB DOG? The best idea i have is that SBURB DOG is a creepypasta from this reply. (maybe it's the origin of all this?)

Thank you for telling me about this Anon! I hope you have nice day. (or whatever time it is for you when you read this)

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you missed sburb dog!!

i didn't miss SBURB. I didn't include a picture as there wasn't much to talk about SBURB itself.

Here is the relevant section where i bring up SBURB specifically.

Either you mean this or you mean "sburb dog" which i have zero clue what that is.

Fred Wilmore as Super Mario Bros. (1993) Mario: This Ain't No Tumblr Post

This idea has been in my head for a while now, so i finally decided to draw it, I've never done anything like this before, and i kinda put it together in like 2-3 hours for fun. (Yes i did just kinda give up on the shoes, couldn't be bothered.)

IT'S A ME A FRED

Image of Fred Wilmore, from Home-Skillet, also known as Karkat Goes to A Convention Act 2 dressed up as Mario from the Super Mario Bros Move 1993.
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Well i feel like i need to explain my idea behind this, Well i thought of making this since Fred has a copy of the Super Mario Movie Video Game so i thought he could use that in alchemy. I did think a bit on practicality here with using the tool belt Mario has as Floppy Disk Storage so he doesn't have to carry things around so much. This does seem like something Fred COULD make, since y'know, he likes Nintendo. So i thought of making this. Overall i think i did a decent job for a first attempt at this sort of thing.

ALTERNATES:

Base:

KGTAC Analysis Pages 2120-2228: The Ultimate Analysis of Ultimate Destiny

Welcome to the world's most delayed analysis post ever! Sorry about how long it took, i got busy for a while there. It won't clear up for a bit (Future note: It has somewhat, that's the reason why this came out THIS LATE) but I'll talk about that at the end of this analysis. Also, I'll begin to refer to the original Home-Skillet as Home-Skillet BETA because KGTAC Act 2 has had it's title drop. Like it was so late that my previous draft before uploading went up to 2070, my reason for not updating is College. (Future Note: Another thing is that some of these notes here are from when the pages originally updated, I'll include notes on if i got something wrong in those old ones.)

2120: I was right! Though i still think there needs to be a handle on the sliding door... Wait, is that a couch in the pool?

KGTAC PAGE 2121

2121: Well i had the right idea of the arrangement. Also… Does he have a second pool? I don't think his window would be facing towards the pool. Like unless I've completely misunderstood the angle Fred's room is at. This ain't right. Here are some more images to get my point across. Though i could be misunderstanding things. Due to this line in page 2098 "You continue forward until you take a LEFT (camera's right) at the end of the hallway." This says that he takes a right. Either way this makes no sense. BOTH IMAGES IN ORDER

KGTAC PAGE 2125

2125: Well, i guess he will never find out WHATS IN THE BOX! Although, it doesn't prevent someone else from finding it.

KGTAC PAGE 2126

2126: Wait, did Fred actually go to Easter Island? I kinda just noticed the portrait. 2127: I think this is Sour-Carbonation (Ana Hepburn) Since they use the same color. Its neat that they're using numbers, as they're on the phone (or in this case, the fax machine) (future note: i probably would've put in an image if i got this out ages ago, but since this came out so late, Ana Hepburn got introduced, so everyone reading this already knows who she is, and thus an image is pointless.) 2128: I wonder what's in the package? It's probably SBURB, that's what she gave in the original 2130: Huh, still in shadow. I think the game is probably in the box (due to the fact it'd be weird to mail a game in an envelope, not much packaging to protect it), but i wonder whats in the envelope. It's truly a mystery. (It was in the envelope)

KGTAC PAGE 2134

2134: YESSSS, FLOPPY-DECK BEING USED IN THE PLOT 2135: LETS GO!!!!…. Wait Fred! you need floppy disks!, you need to grab those too! At best that floppy-disk in there is empty. 2136: Nice, He got the floppy(Future note)... I wonder if he could copy items. Y'know like put an item on the FLOPPY DECK to put it in a floppy disk, put the floppy disk in the computer, copy it onto the computer, and copy that stuff onto another floppy. Breaking the law by copyin that floppy and learning a real life duplication glitch.

Image uses frame from KGTAC PAGE 2139

2148: YOU DON'T NEED A KNIFE FOR VANILLA ENVELOPES, EVERY ONE OF THOSE I'VE SEEN CAN BE OPENED BY HAND!!!! 2152: The plan is joever… What, you expected an in-depth analysis of the previous panels. I did too to be honest but everything there was fairly straightforward, nothing cool to point out. I'm honestly a bit surprised. I was looking for it, the best we got was a UPSIDE DOWN FLOPPY DECK!!!

KGTAC PAGE 2141

2158: Neat, Sburb! Published or made by Sky'Acom. Interesting that its not Skaianet, i wonder if this will mean something in the future. 2159: Neato, It also just came to mind that Fred over here never used a computer before so i can't wait for wacky Sburb Shenanigans, especially if no one else really struggles with the controls.

KGTAC Page 2160

2160: OOF, i was so wrong. It's not a copy of PHOTOCHAT, it's theme park... whatever that is... What the hell is "awesome suicide sequence" supposed to mean 2163: Huh, this implies that a family member of his owns GAME BRO, or he himself does. 2167: So.. that was the Intro Flash, fairly different from the original H-S Intro flash, (Future writings) Like it goes for a Normal homestuck-esque logo at the end, meanwhile in the original it was a fake out for the real logo.

H-S BETA PAGE 70 (end frame)

Honestly there's a lot to the original one, sadly there isn't much else to talk about here as its all fairly different but in ways that's more valuable as an interesting comparison between the two versions of Home-Skillet and not for theorizing about what happens next. I guess since i don't think i ever mentioned it. but Home-Skillet Beta Fred has a non-Sylladex inventory system until the author decided to just give Fred a Sylladex. This is very much unlike KGTAC Fred who just... grabs things... some mind bending stuff here i know. Maybe I'll talk about it in the future when there's more to KGTAC H-S, Like when it gets fully past the H-S Beta in terms of content.

ALSO A PIECE OF H-S BETA PAGE 70

2168: ITS HER (also future note, we didn't go instantly to Ana in H-S Beta)

2169: The name gag here is different, also H-S Beta's name gag is similar to Rose's name gag.

H-S BETA PAGE 176

KGTAC PAGE 2169

2170: Nice (i was right)

H-S BETA PAGE 178

KGTAC PAGE 2171

So yeah these rooms are fairly different. The H-S Beta one was very Rose reminiscent, down to the window. I guess to note whats the same we have

  • The heater
  • Books under the bed
  • The bed itself is the same design wise
  • a general "clown" theme

Honestly i don't have much to say with this room at the moment... The KGTAC version has a big YELLOW SUBMARINE PLUSHIE. Home-Skillet Beta Ana has 2 SBURB Posters and what appears to be a COMMODORE 64 floppy disk drive next to her laptop COMPARED TO G64 FROM GAME DEV TYCOON

I'm using the Game Dev Tycoon one since it gets the point across, and because i thought they looked kinda similar. But yeah... There isn't that much to talk about here beyond this.

GENERAL ANA COMPARISON: I used two panels to compare Ana's sprites from H-S Beta to KGTAC H-S It's so similar i thought they were the same, I had to overlay the two to notice the head is slightly different. (I used XOR on the KGTAC one and overlayed it on the H-S Beta one) The white pixels on Ana are the differences... I wonder why its so similar when Fred got a more notable coat of paint. y'know like slightly different pockets, belt is a few pixels different, etc. where you can tell it was redone a bit, meanwhile it looks like Ana at best got a slightly different head, with everything else being lifted from the original. I'm not judging, I'm just curious as to why its only the head that's different.

KGTAC ANA COMPARED TO HOME-SKILLET BETA ANA

2174: Neat, she still has a bubble deck

KGTAC PAGE 2181

2181: Cool (Just putting this here, i do like this a lot.)

H-S BETA PAGE 184

KGTAC PAGE 2182

2182: Savor this Folks! We got a nice comparison between H-S Beta and KGTAC H-S, We won't know when we'll run out of comparisons til we do. But for actual notes, Its interesting "The Theories Of The Strange" is the same book from H-S Beta, The difference in color is probably more so because of a filter being applied to darken things. on Commander and Sharks, the narration is notably different, The yellow alien used to be called Viola but is now Jacello. The green one used to be called Shark but is now Leonardo Travesty They also weren't Chefs, instead they went around the universe eating new "lifeforms" The closest things to being chefs was making food. In the KGTAC H-S Panel, the yellow text says "From the Edge(s?) of the Universe, the finest silicone based chefs share their secrets" (Wait A MINUTE, I JUST REALIZED "Commanders and Sharks" is a reference to "Commander Cello" and "Sharkalien") 2193: Wow, this is different 2194: Yeah, totally different. It was much bigger in H-S Beta. Like there's nothing here that's shared. Even the portrait is different, like look, that clown is at a different angle.

H-S BETA PAGE 236

KGTAC PAGE 2194

2201: Huh, i wonder why Ana has a keyboard here, In Home-Skillet she played a Saxophone, Here's the flash of that here.

HOME-SKILLET BETA PAGE 193 (FLASH)

2203: … huh 2211: OH! i actually have something to talk about there, something like this happened in the Home-Skillet Beta, but instead it was done by Fred to enter the basement of his house (which we have not heard of in KGTAC Home-Skillet, maybe its that mystery door?)

H-S BETA PAGE 94

KGTAC PAGE 2211

Extra Notes: I forgot Edmond existed. Edmond didn't do anything (since they're dead.) They also weren't prototyped so they never got to do anything, Instead it was a clown in a Birthday hat

HOME-SKILLET BETA PAGE 159 (FLASH)

Also Here is the Page 70 flash on YouTube for easy viewing if you're interested, all of these videos are unlisted since I didn't create Home-Skillet and it doesn't feel right to make them public. Only really putting them here since it shares some relevance with what I'm talking about here and well i haven't gotten any complaints so far.

HOME-SKILLET BETA PAGE 70 (FLASH)

Apologies for how late this analysis was, It wasn't THAT difficult to make this, its just that i didn't have much time due to starting college and being a bit overloaded with classes. Which meant what free time i had i used to game and read instead of hobbies like the analysis. (Like yeah... I had up to Fred's house part of the analysis done like 6 weeks before posting this... I just got the free time to finish this up recently and also that apology for how late it was was written around that same time.... So Yeah!)

What next for the analysis posts: I still want to make these, This post took many hours to make, Probably over 12 hours total (i should probably start keeping track of the time here) Like my final edit here was about 6 hours which was adding new things i noticed, all the flashes, the ending, clearing up anything vague, and fixing minor grammatical errors. I'm just imagining how long this would've taken if the author didn't take a break. I'll still keep making these, but yeah, These posts are definitely going to be rarer as i don't have a summer break's worth of time and due to the way these analysis posts work. (I talk about every page with anything to note, doing multiple re-reads of relevant sections, and generally looking around both fanventures.)

Whats next for my blog: It'll go back to normal with my reblogs, i sorta didn't want to reblog anything until this update came out so i can explain everything here. Hopefully no one here minds that since i have interests outside of KGTAC and Homestuck. (and even then, i didn't reblog Homestuck stuff, since i wanted to explain things first in an update)

Well I hope you all enjoyed the end of this analysis, I did my best to try and keep this as polished as usual. For some final thoughts, THE BOX is probably going to show up later as a Chekhov's gun sort of thing. another thing, WHATS IN THE PACKAGE!?!?! No, seriously, I've got no clue what it could be, it could be a sylladex, but that's sorta a big box, maybe a SYLLADEX STARTER SET (alliteration my beloved) would make sense in the box, we might get more hints later. Outside of theorizing, i do kinda miss the flash files. With flash files, i can grab assets out of them, which can be useful for seeing things you otherwise wouldn't, higher quality assets, and for asset ripping. You can't really do that with a video. Yet another thing to note is that the Act-Act structure for ACT 2 of KGTAC might be rolls, as that's how it was in Home-Skillet Beta (And yes, KGTAC does have ACT ACTS, in Act 1 it was END OF DAY X). Well anyways, if anyone has any questions, theories, or noticed i missed something, I'd like to hear em.

Anonymous asked:

Will you do more analysis? i like reading them :D

Yes, I'll still be doing more analysis posts. But I'm probably going to cut back on the content or quality (probably the first one) of them after the next one I'll post soon™. There are a few reasons why, 1. These posts take a while to make with decent quality. (Drawing, explaining in detail, Suddenly an idea takes hold and what was once a sentence of analysis for a page ends up being a paragraph, reading my post 4 times to check for grammar mistakes and to make sure my explanation's make sense, etc.) 2. My motivation to keep making these is somewhat waning, This is in part that the original excitement of something new has left, and there isn't that much to analyze on a page by page basis early on, We don't exactly have insane amounts of content to go off of for theorizing, like KGTAC ACT 2 is about to reach 100 pages. The big reason i was able to make a lot of theories and ideas for these analysis posts was due to KGTAC Act 2 being a complete remake of Home-Skillet so i have a point of comparison, but its deviated enough now that there isn't that much to go off of, especially since Home-Skillet was dropped in its equivalent of Homestuck Act 1. 3. I'm just somewhat busy at the moment, These posts take some time to make and i haven't been spending a ton of time on them. (Like I'm coming back after finishing this post and this post took like, 45 minutes to write, fix grammatical mistakes, and to add in more bits to flesh it out a bit more in places, hopefully there aren't any noticeable grammar mistakes here.) Sorry for the somewhat downer news, I'm still working on the next analysis. Here is a teaser of the next analysis which reveals i have zero clue where Fred's bedroom is at

My original idea of THE HOUSE LAYOUT

MY SECOND GUESS

This is a small snippet of the analysis i have. I have zero clue where Fred's bedroom is at as it makes no sense unless he has a second pool for some reason. Like seriously, this bothers me, I think i got the rest of the layout right, but i can't figure out where his bedroom fits. If you have any ideas, I'd like to hear it Anon. But either way, thanks for the ask, I'm happy to hear you like my analysis posts.

KGTAC PGS 2100-2119 analysis

Hello, welcome to the Analysis! We don't have too much to talk about for each page, but we got like 20 pages so that makes up for it, I'll only be putting up images if i feel it's important. So here's a lightning round

2100: Well, we at least know those are mixed nuts now, this clearly proves that Fred isn't similar to John, which is neat i guess

KGTAC Page 2101

2101:DISGUSTING, UTTERLY FOUL FRED!

KGTAC Page 2102

2102:You deserve the harsh vibe 2103: OH MY GOD I WAS RIGHT! LOL they are faxing him! It makes sense i guess, i just never thought of using Faxes outside of business reasons since that's where you see faxes nowadays. 2104: Well, we at least know Grandma still exists. I wonder what the special thing is.

KGTAC Page 2105

2105: Huh, that's actually kinda interesting. I was right that it's Dubious, but the interesting thing here is that his username now has a dash in-between. Its sorta neat. 2106: I can't believe i never noticed that egg… Well at least we now know the Yellow book is a phone book, i honestly should've guessed that. 2109: Well, i guess we won't see whats in the box for now 2110:i was right that it was a remote. 2112: He found another egg! Honestly I'm somewhat disappointed its merely a handful of nerds, Why not an entire box?

NO IT CAN'T BE TRUE!!!! NO!!!!!!!

2114: Nope! i should've figured something was up with a stray pixel line. This is just Fred and his Grandma! My brain keeps trying to refute this fact.

KGTAC Page 2115

2115: NOOOO, YOU MISSED AN EGG! Also, i was right about the "two paths" thing, A way out of the living room, and a door! Also dog! 2118: R.I.P. Edmond. I can't remember if you existed in Home-Skillet... It's probably not important anyways. Though i guess if i wanted to make a guess, this portrait is prime prototyping material.

KGTAC Page 2119

2119: We can see a shadowy figure of Grandma but other than that i can't see anything here of note. It's probably off screen.

This is the end of the Analysis, In conclusion it was really cool to get so many updates at once. I was kinda worried that I'd miss an update while i was writing this. But other than that it was kinda neat. I guess this also marks the first time i updated when i didn't have much to talk about. purely because if something important does come up, it'd suck to have to have like 15 pages with small things to note before hitting the meat and bones of an analysis. There's also the fact i don't want an analysis to be a long read just because i was waiting to update when something big happens like whether that be a cool theory, a big confirmation, or just a lot of evidence that leaves me theorizing.

KGTAC PG 2094-2099 ANALYSIS

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Alright, Well lets get to the point here, I wouldn't be making this analysis if it weren't for page 2099 as it has some genuine meat on its bones there. But there's still a bit to talk about.

KGTAC Page 2095

Wait, why couldn't Fred use one of his TWO (2) LEGS. It's interesting characterization especially with

KGTAC Page 2096

This page where his most reasonable solution was to eat the Fritos and close the container with his right hand. It's neat characterization especially with the fact he didn't think of trying to clean it, not even the classic lick your fingers and wipe the saliva on your pants trick. It really comes off as he doesn't try to keep himself nice and neat.

KGTAC PAGE 2098

GO TO THE DAMN BATHROOM YOU FILTHY PIG. Oh, and there used to be more doors here in this hallway.

Home-Skillet Page 32

And I just realized that the circle turns green after he chooses his PHOTOCHAT Color in Home-Skillet... Neat!

KGTAC Page 2099

Now we've got some actual analysis here. To assist i will list each thing with its own unique image.

Home-Skillet Page 32

The room has been completely redesigned to look more "roomy" i guess. We now have TWO (2) windows showing the outside. Although oddly enough no door?

In this image, we get a nice closeup, sadly it doesn't show anything big, though at least we know there is nothing of importance in the Display cases. Just some plates. SKETCH OF WHAT THE PORCH MIGHT LOOK LIKE

We also can't see much outside, it looks like the front yard oddly enough, Maybe we're looking at a porch. This would explain why the glass goes down to the floor, although i don't see any handles. It could just be windows but that makes literally no sense but meh, I don't have the house layout, and we haven't seen enough to be able to construct one, the only thing supporting the idea that its just a window is the fact Fred's room has a really big window (with no curtains, Jesus, someone could just peek in).

We see a portrait of a man interestingly enough, maybe a Grandpa? Though we'd need a closer look. This is the best reconstruction i could make, It took multiple guesses, The one on the right is traced on a 10x resolution version of the photo, We'd need a slightly closer view if we want to see who this guy is. He kinda looks like a moai head.

Under the TV appears to be something computer like, maybe a DVD player? it would explain whats on the other side of this cubby as cases of DVDs, although this is a bit early for someone who is implied to be behind the times tech wise (DVDs just started being massed produced in 1996, and 2 years after this story starts 1/4 American households had a DVD according to Wikipedia).

We can also see from our perspective a literal Easter egg. One that's actually decently hidden unlike in the original H-S.

Under the Fax Machine (Right side, under the portrait of a disgusting pig-like being.) is a Yellow Book of notable size.

On the table with the Fax Machine are some orange notes. Maybe DubiousCrustacean from the original H-S? since his color was orange. It's possible they're pestering him via Fax since he doesn't have a computer. (Wow that so stupid, I love it) There is also another paper but we can't figure anything about it at the current moment.

Behind the farthest right Couch Cushion is another Easter egg of the literal variety.

On the couch there's a literal black thing… I can't tell what it is at all. It a black thing with a dot in it. Maybe a remote in the couch cushions. There's also a bowl of something with napkins next to it (or papers). I guess it might be a candy bowl?

In the left side there are TWO (2) EXITS. you can barely see one of them, just like the edge of it. I point it out in the image with a black arrow. I just barely noticed it myself.

And finally, WHATS IN DE BOXX!!!?!?!?

Conclusion: Well this is the end of this update's analysis. We got some good mileage with that last page. So much to talk about and think of. Like whats with that old man? is Fred getting pestered by his friends over fax. Who knows, if anyone else has any ideas. I'd like to hear em. also i had to keep resisting the temptation to mark everything of importance in CAPITAL LETTERS. like this is Homestuck ACT 1.

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