I'm a strong believer in Penelope being the one who did stupid embarrassing shit in order to impress Odysseus who kind of just took a look at her blushing disheveled just-ran-into-6-walls face like 😌 yeah I want that one
whenever the notion of poseidon being included in the god games the general consensus seems to be "he'd vote to release odysseus so he can kill the man himself" and while i totally agree with that take i think we should broaden our horizons and consider what his actual exchange with athena in the song would be...
poseidon's initial argument would definitely be about polyphemus which she'd counter until it devolves to poseidon basically revealing he's actually kinda obsessed with odysseus because it's the principle of the matter (and more but that's in the saga after it) like how would athena respond to that lol 😭 she'd ultimately get another approval and that's what matters but i think it's one she'd feel a little unsettled about
Aight here is my (for now pretty final) EPIC tier list (the songs within the tiers are in order too)
Go on and judge me based on this :3 No really, I am highly interested in your thoughts :)
Ages ago, I promised a sequel to my Ruthlessness sketches with my new Poseidon design, and well... See, I had a very specific vision for this, my beloved 🫶 favorite song in the whole entire musical. And I guess I was finally brave en- I mean, found the time to bring it to life. Enjoy 🙈🌊🔱
@glisten-inthedark look at what I've done now
Get in the hundred strike.... Or the same plea in different fonts (if you're interested in why, I have an essay on this).... Or my favorite moment in the musical, forever and always
I would love to be able to explain in more coherent words why I so strongly disliked the Ithaca saga, in particular song 38 (and song 40 too) because I feel like I owe you all a meta post/esssy on this but all I hear are feelings and vibes and they screech very loudly that something feels incredibly off here... Maybe one day I'll find the words...
Eurylochus is a very interesting character to me especially as both a parallel and foil to Odysseus. I could talk a lot about the different between Euryolochus in the Circe Saga and Odysseus in the Thunder Saga in regards to "sacrificing" the crew, but right now i want to talk about the brown cow and why neither he or the crew heeded Odysseus's warning because i see too many people interpreting it as an arrogant mistake.
Starvation has been a very big driving motif in the story. A very human need and the original catalyst that leads them to the cyclops in the first place. However many of the cyclops's sheep they were able to take, they have long since run out by Mutiny no doubt. They are starving.
Eurylochus's line "Ody, we're never gonna get to make it home You know it's true" communicates to me that at this point he doesn't plan to. Him and the crew no longer really intend to survive because of how stacked the odds have been and how tired they are. They're not doing this to sabotage Odysseus or because they don't understand the risk or see what he sees. "How much longer must i go about my life like this when people die like this?" They know they're going to die but it won't be from starving. They're tired. Odysseus has to beg them to go faster to try and escape because he's the only one who cares to.
"But we'll die" isn't him asking Odysseus how he could do this to them, it's not spoken in shock, it's making him say it and accept it and understand the choice he's going to make because no matter how much Eurylochus "deserves it", it's not a light decision no matter how sure he makes it. Zeus knew it from the start and the entire crew knew it too. It's not a request, not full of spite, it's spoken by a man who has already long begun to grieve his own death. There's reason to say Odysseus would be the exact same if he wasn't so connected to the idea Penelope presents as stability and peace.
If I were to start a video series where I make one video for watching every saga of EPIC (using my favorite animatic playlist), giving a full story and character analysis, including theories and as much foreshadowing and other commentary and observations as I can catch, would anyone watch that?
It'd be a bit like a podcast, commentary-wise (since I am anything but blind to this musical), except I'd also leave the actual songs and animatics in.
I just have so many thoughts and theories on this musical that I have to get them out somehow, and I quite enjoy talking on camera, so maybe I could do it in this form instead of writing an analysis the way that @glisten-inthedark, for example, did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvuRZugOhYI I saw this "get in the water" animatic and thought you may like it :)
I love your metas on epic too!
Hi! Oh, yes, I've seen this one, and I really like the art style and the first half but unfortunately, the middle ("Aren't you tired, Poseidon?" onward) looks really ungenuine for some reason, on Odysseus' end, and that bothered me because that part is like 70% of why I love this song so much 😭
And thank you! I am definitely planning on writing more. If there's anything in particular you (anyone, btw, not just anon) would like me to cover please feel free to drop suggestions in my ask box!
Can y'all please PLEASE yell at me motivate me to finish this damn animatic because I really kinda like the first half 🫠👉👈
Please tell me all the thoughts you have!
This song is underrated, imo, and I don't particularly like either of the two full animatics that currently exist for it, so I'm making my own. I just need motivation to finish it!!
Chibi Poseidon
After crying in the shower, I’m sure comfort ice cream and an emotional support blanket are needed.
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"Ruthlessness......is mercy upoon...🥲🥲🥲"
He's just a lil guy look at him
I am absolutely delighted by the idea of especially post-600 Strike Poseidon giving lil guy energy because mood I mean Odysseus in beast mode tends to have that effect
I thought it would be neat if he had more physical changes than just the eye color... :)
So have an inevitable ref sheet for our ✨Neither Man Nor Mythical✨ (forever stealing that phrase @glisten-inthedark) before I do a proper Ithaca saga character page and probably redraw the Vengeance saga (luckily didn't post yet) because I don't believe I did it justice.
Will he be devastated when he finds out he won't get to grow old alongside his family either way? Yes. But it just makes no sense for someone who is physiologically a mythical monster to age, yk 🤷♀️
...At least he'll have Athena for all eternity... That's what you get for hitting her with the "I'm not immortal like you" line bc what if you are now :)
From the ithaca live, I’m sorry Steven but i need to draw this one