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16x01 deleted scene โReverse Cowgirlโ
Jimmy attempts to cheer up a grieving Clyde after his mom dies. Butters also tries to help.
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I'm like analyzing Kyle and Stan's characters for the current Chp chapter to figure out how they'll act in a specific scene and I realized some pretty interesting stuff, i thought I'd share;
Kyle actually DOESN'T have high empathy, it's actually pretty average (though I'd argue that it's even pretty low) but what he DOES have is a very strong moral compass & conscience. Meanwhile with Stan it's the other way around; his desicions & actions are based in super high empathy (often so high that it overwhelms him, like in episodes like "Kenny Dies") but his moral compass & conscience are much weaker than Kyle's.
Whenever Kyle helps someone, it's less because he cares about the person (even if he does) and more because he thinks it's the right thing to do. Empathy and his emotions aren't generally the primary driving force behind his decisions and judgements of someone's character, unlike say Stan. A prime example of this difference between the two is s16's episode "Going Native", when after Butters insulted all of the boys, Kyle still urges Kenny to go help and stop Butters from making a mistake. Stan, however, remains pissy because of the insults and just says "After all the things he said to us he can go ahead."
This makes Kyle's desire to help someone less dependent on how he feels about that person/his current emotional state, and more conditional to whether or not he believes that he can make a change. It's no question that he cares about Stan a lot, but as soon as he sees no hope for him in "You Are Getting Old" and "Raisins" he drops him and decides to stay out of his problems to protect his own peace. However, as soon as he sees even a sliver of hope for Cartman to change, like in "Cartoon Wars", Kyle naively jumps to help.
An exception to this tendency is Ike, for whom Kyle will literally do anything for so long as he is in trouble. Probably because he sees it as his indisputable responsibility to help Ike no matter what, seeing as he is Ike's older brother.
Stan, however, when he does something to help someone it's almost never because he thinks it's the right thing to do (at least not as the primary force), but more out of feeling-based reasons or because it could serve him.
The conditions for him to step up are usually one of these:
- he feels intense empathy for the person because he can relate OR because they're helpless (like animals, who cannot speak up for themselves and are helpless against humans)
- he cares about a person a lot (any of the batshit insane instances he went out of his way to help Kyle, like "Smug Alert", "Biggest Douche in The Universe", "Cartmanland", "Cherokee Hair Tampons", "Ginger Cow", "Super Best Friends" and even in "Bloody Mary" when he did whatever he could to help his dad)
- he likes what the action could do for his self image (like in "Butterballs", when he speaks out against bullying under the guise of helping Butters, but Kyle sees straight through him and realizes he's only doing this to help his own image)
- often in combination with one of the others, but also: he hates the opponent (cults, scammers, etc; lots of Stan-centric episodes focus on his disdain for spiritual frauds, often however because of how they harm people he cares about and not because of the principle of the thing)
In "Trapped In The Closet" Stan's moral code doesn't seem to have any problem with scamming thousands of people as he leads the church of Scientology, but he changes his mind only once he sees the genuine hope and love in the eyes of all his new followers.
Stan may have a moral code and principles, but they never guide his actions as strongly as how he feels about something at the moment ever will.
I'm gonna stop yapping now because this post is already super long but I do find it interesting to analyze how this ties into Kyle having a much shorter fuse than Stan, even though Stan is arguably more feelings-oriented. Maybe because Kyle allows himself less emotional processing of events on a day-to-day basisโ always prioritizing the facts and logicโ that when pushed he's always easiest to snap. And also, how another thing that differentiates the two is thatโ despite his high empathyโ Stan tends to be more selfish, meanwhile Kyle usually looks to increase the benefit for as many people as possible, rather than his own. As long as he thinks they ethically & morally deserve it, of course.
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Dude, this is pretty messed up right here
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