OMFG KIWI I HAVEN'T INTERACTED IN LIKE 2 OR THREE MONTHS AND YOU WENT FROM KAI TO ARCANE TO SW? WHO ARE YOU? MY TWIN? CAN WE HAVE A CHRONOLOGICAL TIMELINE OF HOW THIS HAPPENED?
I’VE ACTUALLY MISSED YOU SO MUCH😭😭
Ok so, hyperfixation timeline.
Harry Potter (books and movies), specifically Drarry {I was like 9-10}
Marvel Loki and the Winter Soldier {11-on going(sorta)}
KAI CHISAKI💜💚 (MHA) {12-on going}
Marauders Era Severus Snape (HP) {13-on going}
DARTH MAUL❤️🖤 (Star Wars) {13-on going}
There were a few little ones here and there! Like Arcane is a small one, absolutely love the show!! It’s just not a Kai, Maul, or Snape moment for me.
what do you think happened to Kai chisaki's parents, i mean he had toend u in the orphnge some way or another,
I can’t say for certain, there are no big hints in the story. I can come up with some plausible scenarios though.
First you gotta keep in mind that Afo is behind everything, always, no matter what. He’s the reason Kai is the way he is, so I think there was a long stream of plans and schemes that resulted with Kai Chisaki. But that’s just what I think.
His parents could’ve had strong quirks, so they had Kai in an attempt to make an even better quirk, like a Todoroki family situation. Overhaul is a very specific quirk, strong and complex. Afo found him, or maybe set his parents up himself in the hopes of getting a Kai, took him from his parents (and maybe killed his parents or his parents could’ve worked for Afo and been compliant with abandoning him) to raise him into a villain.
His parents could’ve been random people and Kai developed a fourth generational quirk (quirks that form unrelated to genetics) and there had been a death or a fright of some sort, ending in Kai’s abandonment. Afo snatched him then.
His mother could’ve been a college student who forgot to take the morning after pill and felt too young to raise a child, and Kai just so happened to have the perfect quirk Afo needed to make his vessel!
Either way I don’t think he ever knew his parents. I think he was abandoned at birth for god knows why, and didn’t know what a family felt like until the Yakuza. He never thinks about or speaks about a biological relative during his arc to relate to how good(?) of a parent his Pops was. So, you can only assume that he has none. Anything that reminds him of those feelings of abandonment trigger him GREATLY. The biggest example being when his Pops told him if he can’t follow his rules Kai can leave the Yakuza, then Kai put him in a coma. Or how he repeated his childhood experiences on a little girl who was abandoned because of a death caused by her fourth generational quirk.
People call his version of love “twisted” or “corrupt” when really it’s just desperate. He’s trying so hard to not be abandoned again even though Pops had shown no sign (other than that once) of doing so, and he is desperately trying to prove to himself that he deserves to have a family by “repaying the yakuza”. Even in the end Pops didn’t abandon him, and Kai tried so hard to get to him and apologize despite his odds.
In short, the most plausible scenario is that Kai’s parents abandoned him at birth, most likely with a bit of Afo interference, and perhaps because of his quirk.
WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!! OMG THE WOMAN THE CHEEKS THE CLOUDS!!! You made his body a canvas literally… not even gonna lie, you should be a tattoo artist.
The past three days I’ve woken up from these realistic dreams that Horikoshi came out with a sequel that explain the entirety of Kai’s backstory. And I mean so realistical I have no idea I’m dreaming and think it’s real life and when I wake up I’m heavily confused and have a mild headache.
A scene from Dichotomy I drew a few weeks ago and forgot about 😅
Basically, the two have a breakthrough moment and reconcile as best as they can. It's still not perfect but both are going to put their best foot forward from here on out.
I LOVE the idea of Oboro and Kai having met in the orphanage!! I’ve had a little au like this running in my head for forever now!! Oboro being Kai’s hero😭🥲 I NEED more content like this☝️😔
This is the best thing Horikoshi could've done for Overhaul's fate:
Doesn't let him off the hook for what he did to Eri especially.
Forces him to feel guilty and apologize to Eri for the rest of his life.
Makes sure that he never forgets Eri and what he did to her.
Let's his old boss (Eri's grandfather who was forced into a coma by Overhaul prior to her being abused if I remember correctly), basically haunt him for the rest of his fucking life to make sure he's pays for his sins.
But Shigaraki gets to die peacefully after he killed hundreds of thousands of people because his daddy hit him with a mop and told him not to become a hero?
Both of Muscular and Overhaul’s villain arcs involve a child victim we get to know on an emotional level, while during Shigaraki and the rest of the LOV’s arc we don’t get to sympathize with the people they’ve hurt. Since this is the case, it’s easier for people to instead sympathize with the LOV even though them out of all other villains in the story deserve a whole lot less of it than the villains like Overhaul and Muscular.
And to add to that, Overhaul and Muscular were not given backstories. We don’t know what their childhoods were like, how they ended up they way they did, we don’tget to sympathize with them. The LOV, on the other hand, all get backstories, we know how and why they end up terrorists, we do get to sympathize with them.
I’m not saying Overhaul or Muscular should be loved, but not nearly as despised as they are compared to Shigaraki and the rest.
Just imagine how many Eri and Kotas that are no more than crushed bodies hidden under rubble after the Trample of Machia. How many mothers and fathers mourn their babies, how many children sat homeless and orphaned and confused in the UA shelters. That’s all because of the LOV. They caused that.
I’m not hating, but don’t act like they weren’t on an entirely other level of worse than Overhaul and Muscular.
I’m not acting like the League are better people- they most definitely hurt MORE people given that they’re worldwide terrorists.
With some characters like Toga (someone who wants to live, love, and DIE how she wants to) death actually might be the ending that properly concludes her character. (I know this will make people mad, she’s 17, but Toga CHOSE her ending)
What I’m saying is that I don’t see why characters like Muscular are alive.
He’s kind of a background villain; him living or dying doesn’t do anything for the story- we don’t know his story at all, so it wouldn’t change anything about his character- so why is he still here anyway?
Overhaul living is a punishment for him in a way-
but honestly with how other characters didn’t have certain arcs concluded (Uraraka letting her parents live an easy life- or if Iida ever got his arm healed after becoming a real hero- or even if Bakugou got that All Might card signed)
Why does the story let Chisaki get a conclusion but not other characters?
I’m not saying “the League of Villains are better than Chisaki and Muscular and deserve to live more because ____”
I’m saying “Why do these villains that exist as threats for such small slices of the story still live and/or get character conclusions- but other, more fleshed out characters (villains AND HEROES) don’t ?”
I don’t think Muscular got much of an ending, he was just sorta a problem for a sec just for Deku to show off his abilities. That’s what I think anyway.
As for Overhaul, his influence was really important to the story but was so lightly talked about it felt unimportant. Like the fact that Afo said that Decay was the destructive half of Overhaul, meaning Kai was experimented on and that Tenko wouldn’t have become Tomura if it hadn’t been for Kai’s existence.
That kinda feels really important. Not to mention Horikoshi had the perfect opportunity to write in “the abused become the abuser” trope and Kai could’ve represented the repetition of abuse if you never heal from it, and then Eri being the end of that cycle.
But alas, the ending was lazy and plain boring. Like you said, there were so many characters that got just ignored.
Both of Muscular and Overhaul’s villain arcs involve a child victim we get to know on an emotional level, while during Shigaraki and the rest of the LOV’s arc we don’t get to sympathize with the people they’ve hurt. Since this is the case, it’s easier for people to instead sympathize with the LOV even though them out of all other villains in the story deserve a whole lot less of it than the villains like Overhaul and Muscular.
And to add to that, Overhaul and Muscular were not given backstories. We don’t know what their childhoods were like, how they ended up they way they did, we don’tget to sympathize with them. The LOV, on the other hand, all get backstories, we know how and why they end up terrorists, we do get to sympathize with them.
I’m not saying Overhaul or Muscular should be loved, but not nearly as despised as they are compared to Shigaraki and the rest.
Just imagine how many Eri and Kotas that are no more than crushed bodies hidden under rubble after the Trample of Machia. How many mothers and fathers mourn their babies, how many children sat homeless and orphaned and confused in the UA shelters. That’s all because of the LOV. They caused that.
I’m not hating, but don’t act like they weren’t on an entirely other level of worse than Overhaul and Muscular.
The Overhaul and All for One and Endeavor parallels really are paralleling in these panels.
Overhaul, when faced with the person he wanted to prove himself to the most, declared that the boss should watch him. This declaration of "watch me" in the face of criticism is similar to Endeavor's "watch me" response whenever he was shown under pressure.
In this scene, the boss rejected Overhaul and his plan to use Eri to create a market for the quirk erasing bullets and the cure to put the yakuza back on top of the underworld. Overhaul responded by using his quirk on the one person he genuinely cared about and put him in a coma. It's directly stated that Overhaul planned on keeping him in that state until after he achieved his desired ambitions.
This scene parallels the flashback with All for One and Yoichi from the next arc. When Yoichi, the one person All for One cared for as a person, rejected All for One's choice to become the comic book demon lord, All for One locked him in a vault and then forced a quirk on him. It was likely his intent to keep Yoichi in the vault until he achieved his ambitions or he broke down. Both All for One and Overhaul wanted connection with one particular person but destroyed the one genuine relationship they had because they couldn't respect the agency of the other person.
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