Anakin and Obi-Wan loved an idea of each other but never knew each other.

I read their relationship - and what a happy ending AU looks like - very differently to many.

People who ship them or believe Obi-Wan would be a cool uncle to the twins I think miss the point that the Team is a lie and the love was always misplaced.

Obi-Wan never knew Anakin, not the bits of that mattered. He perhaps knew they existed - his love, his desire for family, his passion, his anger, his fear - but he never understood them. He was incapable of understanding them.

Anakin never knew Obi-Wan, not the bits that made him a real person. Obi-Wan was an idol, an impossible paragon, that Anakin desperately sought to live up and violently resented.

They loved their own ideas of the other, not the reality of who they were.

Anakin's marriage and children would be a fundamental rupture of Obi-Wan's idea of him. Obi-Wan's reaction to the revelation would shatter Anakin's image of him.

I don't think either's love for the other survives that.

Obi-Wan I think would be bitter and heart broken. Turns out Anakin isn't a far better Jedi than he was. Turns out Anakin has been lying to him for as long as it matters. Turns out Obi-Wan failed Qui-Gon, failed the Council, failed Anakin (not as badly, clearly, as in canon, but he still failed).

I think he probably repudiates Anakin - and finally confirms in Anakin's mind that he was never worthy of Obi-Wan's love and he is now never getting it (which Obi-Wan is incapable of giving anyway). It confirms to Anakin that Obi-Wan respected the lie, might one day have loved the lie, but he never respected Anakin, he would never love Anakin.

Even if he doesn't - even if he does the common happy AU thing of (in a massively out of character way) decide he cares more about Anakin than the Jedi, that he is onboard with Anakin's marriage & kids etc - I think it is instead Anakin who rejects him.

Because an Obi-Wan who turns his back on the Jedi, who gives so freely everything Anakin has been desperate for, isn't the Obi-Wan Anakin loves.

Anakin wants something impossible - to be the Jedi he thinks Obi-Wan wants him to be, and in so doing "earn" the love and affection of The Perfect Jedi TM (who by definition shouldn't give it).

Getting that love AFTER having so obviously let down Obi-Wan would I think i) force Anakin to realise Obi-Wan isn't the impossible paragon he believed in and ii) bring up impossible to answer questions of "why now?".

At best they maintain a deeply toxic and resentful co-dependency.

I think more likely is Obi-Wan has his heart broken but maintains his self discipline and spends the rest of his life an empty shell of a human who happens to be the text book perfect Jedi. Anakin also has his heart broken but has a wife and children (and an extended family) and gets to see and experience love again - and learns that Obi-Wan was never going to give it to him.

I feel like the big push for AI is starting to flag. Even my relatively tech obsessed dad is kinda over it. What do you even use it for? Because you sure as hell dont want to use it for fact checking.

There's an advertisement featuring a woman surreptitiously asking her phone to provide her with discussion topics for her book club. And like... what. Is this the use case for commercial AI? This the best you could come up with? Lying to your friends about Moby Dick?

the classic characterization and effects of female characters in this franchise being summed up to bad because they “enabled” anakin when they were just trying to help him heal is one of the things that annoy me and I guess original trilogy doesn’t help with that a lot with for example Vader saying “obi wan also once thought that way” when it was padme who believed in him till her last breath. prequels are extremely important for context and also enriches the story and makes me love this saga more. obviously some stuff falls short with OT being filmed before but I think it changing the story from being male centric to something more diverse is important and crucial. I love how at first original trilogy was more male centric at heart with father-son dynamics and obi wan and palpatine being the big influence in anakin’s life but then when we got to prequels we actually learn women in anakin’s life had the positive affect on him and feel while obi wan encouraged repression as the male influence in his life and padme and shmi inspired him to be a better person and that luke was actually channeling the female influence anakin had in his life when he was saving him he vindicated his mother and grandmother and their belief in anakin

I think that “Anakin was a slave child who was groomed by Palpatine and raised by someone who wasn’t ready to take on a child, thereby leaving him in a social limbo state where he’s surrounded by people but only has a few close confidants, with the one he trusts the most actively trying to take advantage of him”

and

“Anakin was taught right from wrong from a young age, first by his mother and then by Kenobi, but any time he was presented with a choice, actively CHOSE WRONG EVERY SINGLE TIME”

are two sentences that can, should, and MUST coexist to fully understand Anakin Skywalker as a character

^ one of the most layered scenes in all of star wars, actually. like on top of everything else, there’s luke reaching out to his sister to see if she has a memory of their mother, because he has none, and he’s spent his whole life idealizing his dad, but now he’s going to head off and (if all goes as planned) die alongside his dad, so maybe he would like to die with a memory of mom as well. just one even

Sitting seaside as well, very distinguished

the thing about the tusken massacre many people simply do not understand is that there are likely no possible legal consequences for anakin

tattooine is a hellscape, you think they prosecute people for killing others? nah

tattooine is not subject to republic laws.

ergo, anakin cannot be prosecuted in a republic court of law - and neither can padme - because it falls outside the court's jurisdiction.

sure, they can still face personal consequences, but it doesn't really solve anything.

the jedi getting involved wouldn't help, they have little cultural knowledge of tattooine and would trample over everything.

it's an uneasy situation.

also, the tusken raiders killed more people than shmi, killing a lot of moisture farmers as well.

anyway my point being that criminally prosecuting anakin for the tusken massacre is unrealistic

"what if a dangerous man pretends to be trans to-" what if we actually dealt with the underlying causes of dangerous men. what if predators faced real consequences more often. what if you stopped using trans women as a proxy for your grievances with liberal feminism's individualist denial of the need to fight systemic issues.

what if you stopped assigning blame for patriarchy's evils to one of its more vulnerable victim groups.

THIS IS KILLING ME

Green eyes shouldn’t actually be considered an eye color. It’s just not common enough, it’s a VERY SMALL percentage of the population, 1-2%. Green eyes are also caused by an irregular mutation. Most people have blue or brown eyes, so those are the two eye colors.

All the “green eyes” positivity is actually a bad thing, by the way. Having green eyes is linked to higher rates of retinal melanoma. You’re celebrating something dangerous that can cause suffering.

And besides, most people with “green eyes” lean closer to blue or brown anyways. They should just make up their minds and be brown eyed or blue eyed. And if it’s too hard to tell, they should get corrective surgery (because green eyes are dangerous, and associated with more difficult medical care!) or at the least wear contacts so they don’t confuse people. But also they should be required to

I hate to sound like this, but green eyes are a far more recent development than blue eyes in the mutagenic history of humans. So humans weren’t created to have green eyes.

And hazel eyes? Those are just a variant of brown eyes—come on, they’re far closer to brown than green. They just have a couple greenish traits. And there’s no way there’s that many green eyed people, or a wide variety of eye colors… It’s just not natural.

I don’t have a problem with green eyed people, they didn’t ask to be born that way—but there’s just too few of them for it to be an actual eye color. We don’t need all this “green eye positivity” or putting green eyes in media. The internet is making people delude themselves into thinking it’s more common than it really is.

‼️ THIS POST IS ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF INTERSEX PEOPLE ‼️

✅ I HAVE GREEN EYES THIS IS SATIRE ✅

⚠️ PLEASE DON’T SEND ME ANY MORE THREATS OF VIOLENCE IN DEFENSE OF PEOPLE WITH GREEN EYES?? ⚠️

💧 THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT EYE COLOR?? IT’S ABOUT INTERSEXISM AND BIGOTRY 💧