User talk:Yikrazuul

Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, Yikrazuul!

Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 06:21, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

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Suosan.png

Hi Yikrazuul, Could you please take a look at File:Suosan.png? It shouldn't have the minus charge at the top right because the charges are already located on atoms within the brackets. Thanks. Edgar181 (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. By the way: Is Suosan really the sodium salt of N-(((4-Nitrophenyl)amino)carbonyl)-beta-alanine? According to this or this not...Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 21:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it looks like maybe it should be the parent carboxylic acid. I'll check Chemical Abstracts on Monday. Edgar181 (talk) 23:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

SciFinder tells me that Suosan is the sodium salt, CAS number 140-46-5.

See also Int. J. Quant. Chem. (1994) 51, 335-341. Couldn't quite get the info I wanted out of it, but maybe you guys can.

Ben (talk) 23:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thx a lot, I'll check that asap. Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 09:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

PS: @Ben: Nope. In the publication there is no sodium nor Na in the text. They also write: terminal COOH-group. At least it is mentioned, that Suosan is 700 times sweeter than sucrose. Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 15:08, 7 June 2009 (UTC). PPS: Look also this orthat: no sodium! --Yikrazuul (talk) 15:14, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

SciFinder has 17 references to the sodium salt and 8 to the parent acid. The parent acid has CAS no. 102-66-9.

I've made the results into PDFs:

• Sodium salt, 140-46-5: http://www.benjamin-mills.com/Wikipedia/140-46-5.pdf

• Parent acid, 102-66-9: http://www.benjamin-mills.com/Wikipedia/102-66-9.pdf

Ben (talk) 17:14, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thx Ben. Does that mean SciFinder overrules three papers? --Yikrazuul (talk) 18:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

No, not at all. I just thought it would be useful to have a list of all relevant papers to give a balanced view of the literature, rather than cherry-picking.

Ben (talk) 16:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. One odd problem is, that clearly a "parent acid" paper is among the "sodium-salt" papers (answer 9, page 3). On the German Wiki, we have listed both the parent acid and the sodium salt. But impo opinion it seems like that the parent acid IS Suosan. Maybe we should discuss that there? Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 18:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

starting over

Yikrazuul, I'm hoping we can start over a bit here. I've been scanning through your edits here and on WP, and I think we're on the same team here. We're both interested in making things better for science-related articles. I understand you think the Gene Wiki effort is not achieving this goal, but the intent is certainly there. And our effort would certainly benefit from your input and expertise moving forward. On the issue of the images in particular, I'm open to the will of the community here, including everything up to and including deletion of all the images we've uploaded. I just think we need a bit more discussion before we act, just so we get it right this time. I hope we can agree on this common ground. Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 17:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey Andrew,

I appriciate your contributions here on WP as well, and I'm glad that we can discuss about certain issues. Impo I wouldn't delete those images (as a matter of fact I also mentioned that in that discussion), since - as an IP stated - we are not lacking in webspace here. My point is just as simple as beneficial for the community: In that complicated field of biosciences we should not fully rely on BOT-made entries. BOTs are good for hard- and unpricise work (adding physical data, formating, adding available pdb-links) etc. But the real-work, this "peer-review", humans like we are have to do. Hence I was alerted, I feared that the BOT is uploading virtually every thumbnail of a published structure or part of a structure (compare example):

• shorted expample
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  Phage T4 lysozyme
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  Phage T4 lysozyme
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  Phage T4 lysozyme
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  guess what

I am used to do things on demand: If someone needs a picture he is claiming that. And others like me are doing our best to fulfil their wishes.

Hence I think we will come to an agreement, since feedbacks are - throughout history - always beneficial! Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 18:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am 100% agreed that human work should trump bot work every time. We've taken great pains with the Gene Wiki bot to allow users to turn off bot updates for specific pages, and also to avoid overwriting likely human edits even if the flag hasn't been explicitly set. And this principle is even more obvious when looking at the molecular structures. Clearly, doing things individually (and in the hands of domain experts) results in figures that convey much more information by tailoring the coloring, zoom, orientation, etc etc.

It may be a bit naive, but we are hoping that including more thumbnails in the Gene Wiki will lead to a greater appreciation of structural biology and the importance of 3D structure, and then an increase in requests for improved images from visualization specialists like yourself. Ultimately, we're hoping for an eventual net increase in the quantity and quality of visualizations with the Gene Wiki.

With the specific lysozyme example above, I agree that the difference between those four structures is not immediately apparent, especially from the static images hosted here at WikiCommons. I can see a few ways how this could have been handled. We could import all images (like we've done so far) just to have them accessible by any valid PDB ID. We could somehow determine that these are redundant and only load one of them. Or we could skip them all since they deal with lysozyme, and hence won't be used in the Gene Wiki. Any thoughts on the "right" way this should be handled? I'm asking from the perspective of adjusting our past contributions if others feel it important enough, as well as for future contributions if another bot run is approved later. Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 20:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Just a short comment: Is it possible to avoid uploading these images in JPG file type? Such images quite often show compression artefacts. The file types of choice are SVG and PNG. --Leyo 06:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Leyo, yes, moving forward we intend to stick with PNG. The problem was that the image server provided by the EBI changed format half-way through our process. Thankfully, they changed the "right" way (to PNG, rather than to JPG). Whether we should replace the existing JPG to the PNG versions is certainly a point of discussion. (BTW, I didn't mean to create a fork of the main discussion at the village pump. Let's move any follow-up and/or other issues back over there? Thanks...) Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 15:46, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

We could circumvent one problem (see above) by (1) using a good description. Hereby all relevant data should be pointed out. This could be adressed easily. (2) In addition it should be pointed out (kind of note) those galleries in GeneWiki-articles contain all kind of published structures. They don't show necessarily neither the complete nor the "right" structure.

Hence we could combine (maybe) usefull resources and the objectivity in that regard. Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 19:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree, a better description would help a lot. So that everyone can chime in on deciding what's best, I've started a new section back at the village pump. I'm not exactly clear yet on your second suggestion above. Do you propose adding a note to the images themselves, or to the galleries on the Gene Wiki pages? Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 00:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Flavonoide

Hallo Yikrazuul, zwei Fragen zu Flavonoiden:

1. Diese Darstellungsweise mit dem Sauerstoffatom im Ring oben rechts scheint die am weitesten verbreitete zu sein. Bei den Heterocyclen ist es in der Regel aber genau umgekehrt, das Heteroatom weist nach unten: Category:Coumarins. Hast du eine Ahnung, woher das kommt?
2. Laut PubChem sind Oenin und Primulin identisch, nämlich jeweils das Glucosid von Malvidin. Bei dir aber unterscheiden sie sich im Zuckerrest. Hast du eine zuverlässige Quelle, dass Primulin das Galactosid ist? Es wäre ja nicht das erste Mal, dass PubChem falsch liegt... Gruß, --NEUROtiker ^⇌ 12:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Neuro, nun

1. Möglicherweise hat das was mit der Synthese zu tun. Aus Chalkonen werden die ja gemacht. Aber dann müsste man logischerweise fragen, warum das nicht auf den Kopf steht. Vermutlich ist die Nummerierung (O hat die 1 und ist oben) so nachvollziehbarer ;)

2) Witzigerweise widerspricht sich dann PubChem selbst. Oenin bzw. Enin ist das Glucosid, während Primulin als das Galactosid beschrieben wird. Müsste aber noch in ein Flavanoidhandbuch reinschauen, um ganz sicher zu gehen. Gut, dass ich die Dateinamen wohlweislich nach dem tatsälichen Zucker genannt hatte.

Liebe Grüße, --Yikrazuul (talk) 15:58, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Sehr umsichtig :-). Auch Sigma bezeichnet das Galactosid als Primulin. Nunja, wird sich um eine weitere Ungenauigkeit bei PubChem halten. Wenn du die Möglichkeit hast, in einem Flavonoidhandbuch nachzuschauen wäre das super! Gruß, --NEUROtiker ^⇌ 17:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons has a specific scope

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--Ysangkok (talk) 16:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Wobble Paar

Hi! Bei deinem Bild zum Wobble Paar G/U fehlt G ein H. AUßerdem fehlt beim U auch eins. Vorteilhaft wäre es auch wenn man am G die NH2 Gruppe sehen könnte. GrußGokumba (talk) 16:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey danke! Ist nun wieder ok...Grüße, --Yikrazuul (talk) 19:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Lipoic acid page

Hello Yikrazuul, I am currently trying to upgrade the lipoic acid page here on wiki. I want to add the SLA molecule to the page alongside the RLA molecule (already there) but am unable to do so. Could you please help me?? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks so much Sarah--Sarah258 (talk) 18:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey Sarah, I am back. But I maybe missed the point: Do you want to add a graphic to the Category:Lipoic acid (on commons). Or do you want to add sth in the en-Wiki article Lipoic acid? Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 16:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Coomassie3.jpg File info

Hello Yikrazuul,

Do you have any additional information about the file "Coomassie3.jpg"? In particular I am interested in finding out what it loaded into the gel? Also wondering if you have similar images using different stains?

Thanks,

Eric Schrader

Hey Eric,

I addes some infos at the picture's description. Does that answer your questions? Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 16:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Rebaudioside

Hi, I would be gratfull if you can make image of rebaudioside A, Rubusoside and Abrusoside A. thnaks by advance.78.150.52.101 06:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I will give it a try :) Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 09:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.78.150.12.113 17:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Ecce! --Yikrazuul (talk) 14:39, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

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Chemical images that should use vector graphics

Hallo Yikrazuul. Aus deiner Anfangszeit hat es einige „SVG-getaggte“ Strukturen. Magst du die vielleicht gelegentlich mal durchgehen und entscheiden, ob du (i) eine SVG-Version zeichnen, (ii) eine PNG-Version in höherer Auflösung und mit transparentem Hintergrund drüberladen oder (iii) den Baustein als unbegründet entfernen willst? --Leyo 16:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey Leyo, gerne, werde ich nach und nach machen, aber vermutlich nicht immer in allen Wikis ersetzen. Es stimmt, manchmal trifft auch (iii) zu, hohe Auflösung, aber immer noch svg-getaggt. Grüße, --Yikrazuul (talk) 11:12, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Basic Blue 3.svg

Where did you get the information on File:Basic Blue 3.svg? It seems that Basic Blue 3 is not this compound, but one with two (diethylamino-) groups instead of the two (dimethylamino-). See, for example, Article The adsorption of basic dye (Astrazon Blue FGRL) from aqueous solutions onto sepiolite, fly ash and apricot shell activated carbon: Kinetic and equilibrium studies, in Journal of Hazardous Materials, by B. Karagozoglua, M. Tasdemira, E. Demirbasb, and M. Kobya. Albmont (talk) 19:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey Albmont, you are totally right. Also, accoring to the Austrian Federal Law Gazette - now linked as a source, I picked up the wrong substance. The reason was I've simply redrawn a structure.

Now I added some more data about the component and uploaded a new pic! Cheers, --Yikrazuul (talk) 20:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Gadget

Ich würde dir empfehlen, in den Einstellungen das Gadget Quick Delete zu aktivieren. Das LA-Stellen ist damit viel praktischer. --Leyo 16:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey Leyo, sweet! Ist das neu? Auf jeden Fall sehr praktisch in Angesicht dieser Herkulesaufgabe, den Stall zu entmisten! --Yikrazuul (talk) 16:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Neu nicht, nur kürzlich verbessert. --Leyo 16:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

SVG Rahmen

Hi, jetzt nochmal auf deutsch ;-) Mir macht der von dir angesprochene Rahmen zu schaffen. Hast du Erfahrung damit in Illustrator, oder mit welchem Programm arbeitest du? Kann man da den Rahmen manuell definieren oder wird der immer automatisch anhand der Bildobjekte erstellt? Die eingestellte Zeichenfläche ist es offenbar nicht. Ich konnte den Rahmen bis jetzt immer nur einfügen, indem ich ein Objekt im Hintergrund erstellt habe, an dessen Größe sich dann beim SVG Export der Rahmen ausgerichtet hat, was ich dann aber nachträglich wieder aus der SVG löschen musste. Danke nochmal für den Hinweis! Grüße, --Mouagip (talk) 11:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Habs jetzt schon selbst rausgefunden ;-) --Mouagip (talk) 14:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Hallo Mouagip, bitte entschuldige, habe es übersehen.

Ich benutze die Kombination ChemDraw und Inkscape, dort definiere ich den Rahmen manuell (5px an jeder Seite). Sieht ganz gut aus, und es besteht dann nicht die Gefahr, das Sachen weggeschnitten werden. Viele Grüße, --Yikrazuul (talk) 16:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

MoCo

Hallo Yikrazuul, bei deinen MoCo-Strukturen fehlt noch die Stereochemie. Kannst sie ja bei meinen abgucken. Quelle ist PDB 3BDJ und 3HBG.

Außerdem denke ich aufgrund des Nature-Papers, dass File:Molybdenum cofactor.svg noch nicht der endgültige Cofaktor ist, sondern File:MoCoS-XO.svg, aber nur bei Xanthinoxidasen. Gruß. --Ayacop (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey Aya, danke für die Info. Habe nun auch Stereo, und mich bei File:Molybdenum cofactor.svg auf S. 844 bezogen, anscheinend wird dann dieses MoCo durch eine Sulphurase zu dem gemacht...Grüße, --Yikrazuul (talk) 12:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

File:Regulation of glycogen metabolism insulin.svg

Hallo Yik, in deiner Illustration sind es zwei Insulinmoleküle, die andocken, bei reactome ist es eins. Ich wollte gerade eine Schemazeichnung machen, kannst du mir definitiv bestätigen (Paper-Quelle), dass es zwei sind? Ich suche auch noch selbst weiter. --Ayacop (talk) 16:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey Aya, schaue auch mal nach, das dauert noch ne Weile. Wenn, habe ich dies von Lehrbüchern. Falls du was herausfindest, gib bitte Bescheid. Grüße, --Yikrazuul (talk) 09:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, hab nachgeschaut, auf (ISBN 978-3540418139) S. 579, 802 und 786 sind zwei Insulinmoleküle eingezeichnet. Grüße, --Yikrazuul (talk) 16:54, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Danke! --Ayacop (talk) 09:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

File:Wrist and hand deeper palmar dissection-numbers.svg

Hello. Wilfredor is the creator. I just moved the file. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 10:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

File:UFO.jpg

Lieber Yikrazuul, du hast vor ein paar Tagen einen Beitrag zur Löschdiskussion über das Bild UFO.jpg abgegeben. Ich möchte dich bitten, dich nicht wild in eine Diskussion zu stürzen ohne dich vorher über das Thema erkundigt zu haben und auch auf deine Umgangssprache zu achten. Bei der Diskussion geht es weder darum, ob das Bild echt ist, noch um die Qualität des Bildes (zur Illustration bestimmter Artikel sind auch falsche UFO-Bilder zu verwenden). Es geht lediglich um das Urheberrecht. Nimm also bitte deine Stimme zurück, da die Diskussion sonst zu einem unberechtigten Löschen führen könnte. mfG, Boris Karloff II 16:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC)