Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with "GEPA pictures"

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Files found with Special:Search/"GEPA pictures"

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Photos credited to GEPA Pictures, a photo agency. Most of these are (accidental) license laundering through Special Olympics, plus one from MyNewsDesk, which has become blacklisted in the last year.

Ytoyoda (talk) 17:09, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't see any evidence that there was any license laundering going on. Is there evidence or just some sort of presupposition? I did check the photo that I uploaded File:US Ambassador Alexa Wesner pd 2015.jpg and Flickr still lists it as CC-0. As long as that is the case, let's not presuppose anything unless there is some evidence or a complaint. Smallbones (talk) 18:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A couple of things:
  • I'm not presupposing anything. It's that an organization is posting photographs to Flickr with no evidence that there's been a transfer of license from GEPA to the Special Olympics. That GEPA is credited in the descriptions and in the metadata are evidence that GEPA still assert their rights over the photographs.
  • Many Flickr users are bad about licensing — not because they're bad people or they're dumb, but because copyright is complicated. While most Flickrwashing happens accidentally, I think we have enough blacklisted Flickr accounts to tell us that we shouldn't treat the Flickr license as gospel.
  • Speaking of which, yes, File:US Ambassador Alexa Wesner pd 2015.jpg does in fact have a free license on Flickr. That's my point — it's probably not an accurate indication of its actual copyright status (i.e. Flickrwashing).
  • We don't wait for complaints about copyright. And the evidence is that the photos are credited to GEPA.
Okay, that was more than a couple of things, but hope it all makes sense. Ytoyoda (talk) 20:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The precautionary principle only goes so far. It's not enough to say "I had a dream that maybe this photo doesn't have the proper license." There has to be some reason for a reasonable doubt. photographers and employers have a choice on who owns the copyright. This is a contractual matter between them. They can contract that the employer owns the copyright, or they can contract that the photographer owns the copyright. You are presupposing that they contracted that the photographer owns the copyright. In the case of the Ambasador there is no indication that the photog owns the copyright. Not in the metadata or anywhere else. In case there was a problem the photog has had 5 years to correct the problem and hasn't done so. Rather the employer, a major international organization, continues to claim to own the copyright. The evidence is against your interpretation. Smallbones (talk) 21:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am fully with Smallbones, there is no evidence that the "Special Olympics" org. does not hold the copyright. And I would not blame such an inernational organization for copyright fraud without evidence, would you?  Keep. Xgeorg (talk) 06:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think the evidence is in the metadata and the photo description. And I'm not claiming there's a copyright fraud (though does it matter that Special Olympics is an international org rather than a single-nation org?). Like I've already stated, it's common for people who manage an organizational Flickr account, even a large one like SO, to be unaware of how to properly license 3rd party works.
Keep in mind that the assumption/default is that the photographer owns the rights. I'm not seeing evidence that the copyright has transferred fro GEPA to SO. I'm not sure why we're assuming that a commercial photo agency has relinquished its intellectual property rights, and nowhere does Special Olympics assert its rights to the photo, all the while crediting GEPA. Ytoyoda (talk) 06:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 11:54, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Files found with Special:Search/"GEPA pictures"

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Sourced to GEPA pictures, not the Special Olympics. Please see the earlier deletion discussion above.

Ytoyoda (talk) 22:02, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Ytoyoda: Would it be a good idea to email GEPA to confirm the copyright status of the Flickr images? Their website says for event photography "In­cluded in the me­dia ser­vice pack­age is also a li­cense that al­lows dis­sem­i­na­tion of pic­tures to the me­dia." Some of the images uploaded to the 2017 Special Olympics Flickr page are also fully copyrighted (for example), so certain photographers of the event may have granted public domain distribution. If you believe the Flickr account may have just been mistaken, why would they have full copyright on images by certain photographers but not others? However, if these images are, in fact, mistakenly labeled public domain by the Flickr uploader, adding the uploader to the blacklist here makes sense. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:36, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Elly (talk) 09:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Files found with Special:Search/ "GEPA pictures"

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Photos credited to GEPA pictures in title or image description. The uploaders are likely not the image owners.

Ytoyoda (talk) 12:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:45, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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