Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Meterrs

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Meterrs

Status: open • view • edit • history • watch
Filed: 17:43, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

• Meterrs (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

Suspected related users

• Bill Wong (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser), tried to remove himself of here twice, has multiple intersections with very suspicious accs;
• Draftpong (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser), confirmed by Magog the Ogre and intersects with Bill Wong in File:Consumers Distributing logo.jpg (hist • logs • abuse log);
• Hvsmtl (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser), confirmed by Magog the Ogre and made actions similar to those for which Bill Wong was blocked (and in a file uploaded by Bill);
• Hvslo (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser), a strikingly similar name and a Bill Wong’s sock beyond a reasonable doubt;
• Mediapow (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser), another Bill Wong’s (ergo presumedly Meterrs’s) account;
• Omergreat (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser) (confirmed in en.Wikipedia);
• Quotabowl (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser);
• 70.49.66.248 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log • checkuser), showed up on Undeletion requests;
• Havas Montreal (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser), similar to Hvsmtl in all qualities;
• Logowiki (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser), intersects with Bill Wong in File:Miracle_Mart_logo.jpg (hist • logs • abuse log) and File:Bell ExpressVu logo.png (hist • logs • abuse log);
• the latter was uploaded by Pastratopi (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser) caught in two wikis as a Meterrs’s sock and who edited Miracle_Mart_logo.jpg as well;
• Banamoche (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser), in each of three related files intersects with Bill Wong.

Added following tips from en.Wikipedia:

Rationale and discussion

Reason: Two of three Bill Wong’s accounts have names well within observed Meterrs’s repertoire; intersections and purely behavioral evidences are also abundant. Also note that Taivo recently hid a visible evidence implicating Hvslo. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:43, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

I did not hide anything, I deleted userpage and his/her talkpage. Taivo (talk) 17:55, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

It hid a behavioural pattern from non-sysops. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:56, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Hiding is what you can see in file:Vogelpark Walsrode 2012 (147).jpg, where I hided a first version. Hiding and deleting are different things. Taivo (talk) 19:33, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't know what the evidence is. The entire deleted history is:

• (diff) 2018-02-16T23:39:50 . . Hvslo (talk | contribs | block) (empty) (←Blanked the page) (Tag: Blanking)
• (diff) 2018-02-16T23:39:38 . . Hvslo (talk | contribs | block) (1 byte) (←Created page with 'H')

--Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 21:28, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

en.Wikipedia also confirms “our” known socks Pastratopi (talk · contribs), Gasexpert (talk · contribs), and TVcommercialpro (talk · contribs). Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

It seems that some people open account by following me or something like that. For my activities, I'm going by hazard when I find things to edit. My name should be removed from this investigation. It's a very strange thing that some users involve me in that.--Bill Wong (talk) 21:07, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

I removed my account from that, I'm really not involved in that. I opened just one account, I need just one account. I don't know what would be the utility to have other accounts.--Bill Wong (talk) 21:19, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

@Bill Wong: you should not. It is perfectly possible that you intersected with Draftpong and Omergreat accidentally and Hvsmtl was erroneously attributed to the Meterrs’ farm while in fact belonging to Bill Wong’s ring. But relation of Hvslo and Mediapow to Bill Wong is pretty obvious. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 21:27, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: the only thing of evidence is that someone copy me, I watched the activities of these two and I see that Mediapow has uploaded a file like me.--Bill Wong (talk) 21:36, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Relation of Hvsmtl and Havas Montreal to Bill Wong is clear as a mountain spring: File:REM map.png (hist • logs • abuse log). Too many coincidences to leave the case without check. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 21:45, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: About these accounts, I think it's probably the author of the file who has opened these accounts. I contacted them for a permission about the file publishing. He probably didn't know the policy of accounts on Wiki Commons, and he probably wanted to edit on that when I sent them by email the link of the file.--Bill Wong (talk) 21:54, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

I removed my name again of the list, like I said I just have and I just need one account.--Bill Wong (talk) 21:58, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Suspected related users not necessarily means that's multiple accounts for one user. The proof will surely be more decisive in my future activities, I hope that's clear that I did'nt need multiple accounts, this also true for now and in the future. Thanks.--Bill Wong (talk) 00:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

• I seem to have come across this separately through enwiki.. I blocked all of them per cu enwiki evidence and then found this page.. Either way, I have added 12 socks that weren't already on the list. ~riley (talk) 09:04, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

How should we now categorize the catch? Under Meterrs or, as Yann proposed, under locally non-existent ConsumersDistributingonline? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:35, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Results

The following are all stale and cannot be checked:

31 of the 33 from list above

*Bingbox - Last edit was on 7 August 2017 Metalbik - Last edit was on 9 August 2017 Lolboat - Last edit was on 17 August 2017 Pikatchu1221 - Last edit was on 11 August 2017 Bass1 - Last edit was on 22 August 2017 Tropyno - Last edit was on 23 August 2017 Dishnetbit - Last edit was on 23 August 2017 Gallobar - Last edit was on 23 August 2017 Seldexx - Last edit was on 30 August 2017 Woolting - Last edit was on 14 September 2017 Griddoppy - Last edit was on 11 September 2017 Besstrout - Last edit was on 11 September 2017 Gagdiptroat - Last edit was on 9 September 2017 Houlwer - Last edit was on 6 September 2017 Vlapatito - Last edit was on 11 September 2017 Maintrapit - Last edit was on 12 September 2017 Yellowfresh - Last edit was on 17 November 2017 Stamp124 - Last edit was on 17 November 2017 Servmerc - Last edit was on 9 August 2017 Myqadon - Last edit was on 2 September 2017 Jangtio - Last edit was on 1 September 2017 Clapclaptro - Last edit was on 15 September 2017 Wowlpat - Last edit was on 4 September 2017 Tradong - Last edit was on 2 September 2017 Toollbixx - Last edit was on 31 August 2017 Tlboxx - Last edit was on 1 September 2017 Mwoupo - Last edit was on 5 September 2017 Jujuploto - Last edit was on 2 September 2017 Hawrtui - Last edit was on 1 September 2017 Bawllopo - Last edit was on 3 September 2017 Bibvila - Last edit was on 5 September 2017 Jaipou - Last edit was on 24 August 2017 Gawrt - Last edit was on 24 August 2017

Banamoche, from the first list above, is also stale and cannot be checked - Last edit was on 19 September 2017.

Aside from Checkuser evidence, which is as solid as I have seen in my experience as a CU, I note that almost every edit done by the following is related to the logo of a major corporation. The following all appear to be the same user and have been blocked indefinitely:

•  Abcnnh (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Bill Wong (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Bookspanwiki (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Columbiahousewiki (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Draftpong (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Gasexpert (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Havas Montreal (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Hawkseal (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Henritrain (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Hvslo (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Hvsmtl (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Logowiki (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Mediapow (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Omergreat (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Quotabowl (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Shopoffice (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Wikcom1234 (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
•  Wopogo (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

.     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:00, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

@Jameslwoodward: how certainly are Hvslo (talk · contribs) and Mediapow (talk · contribs) confirmed as Bill Wong’s possessions? Are they related to Bill closer than to rest of the farm? Are individual socks technically distinguishable at all? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:45, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

I would characterize them all as socks of Meterrs, not Bill Wong, but that is only because the Meterrs account is much older. In fact, Bill Wong's first WMF edit was on 2 February 2018. As far as your other questions go, it is important that the details of CU work remains private, so I won't say more..     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:06, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

BTW I now mined more behavioral evidences linking Bill Wong with one of the most certain Meterrs/ConsumersDistributingonline socks – feel free to ask me off-wiki. I have not a slight doubt anymore that Bill is an integral part of the farm (which can be operated by more than one physical person). Incnis Mrsi (talk) 19:34, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

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All accounts listed as sockpuppets of User:ConsumersDistributingonline have been listed as sockuppets of User:Meterrs respectively. Closing at this time. ~riley (talk) 02:42, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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