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Thank you! I usually try to do it, just forget. 94.3.21.223 (talk) 18:09, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

November 2012

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Yelizaveta Bryzghina is not "Russian"

People born in Ukraine out of (ethnic) Russian parents are (on English Wikipedia at least) not "Russians" but "Ukrainian people of Russian descent". Hence I corrected your edit at Yelizaveta Bryzghina. By the way; her father Viktor Bryzhin was born in Ukraine. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 23:36, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

By the way 2: having a "Russian name" and being born in an "ethnically Russian region" (as a territorial nationalist I do not believe in such things anyway... but it anyways) proofs nothing... Wikipedia relies on Proof and Verifiability. Just having a Russian name proofs nothing... I know a man who's (100% ethnic) German grandfather stole the name tag of a Polish soldier while he (the German) was imprisoned in Siberia... (he thought it would improve his changes of surviving and he was right) and back in Germany the man "kept" that Polish name. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 23:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

But the story you tell is extreme, do you agree that if a person is born in Smolensk and his surname is Ivanov it's 99.99% that he's Russian? Same thing here, some regions in Ukraine have a Russian majority because historically they were Russia. Now in this case one of her parents came from Russia, which makes it even easier. 94.3.21.223 (talk) 23:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

NO! The days that the people in these "regions in Ukraine with a ethnic Russian majority" felt like they where Russians are long gone by the way. Go to them and you will find that out... as I have did this summer. As I said before I am a territorial nationalist; hence if somebody does not has Russian citizenship they are 100% not Russian to me. So even if Mr Ivanov has 2 ethnic Russian parents but no Russian citizenship I do not see him as Russian anyway. If he had 2 parents who where ethnic Chinese and Mr. Ivanov has Russian citizenship I see him as 100% Russian. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 00:03, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

YES! Ethnicity has nothing to do with how you feel, for that you have nationality. If someone has or doesnt have Russian citizenship it has nothing to do with their ethnicity. I'm sure it's fascinating what you did this summer, but it has nothing to do with the difference between nationality and ethnicity. It's also interesting how you see territority and how you see or don't see a 100% Russian, but those are your opinions, while dealing with the delicate identity topic we have to know the difference between nationality and ethnicity. For example Taras Shevchenko lived for many years and died in Russia, does it change the fact he is ethnically Ukrainian? No. Italian Americans, are they just Americans? They might see themselves as so, but ethnically they are Italian.

If Mr Ivanov has two Chinese parents and we know about, will you claim that he is ethnically Russian? By nationality he is, but ethnicity is a different story. 94.3.21.223 (talk) 00:09, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

PS if they feel so Ukrainian how will you explain the research that said they perfer a Russian over a person from west Ukraine? Or who they vote for? That's why "my friend from Crimea" can not be used as a serious reference on Wikipedia. You need to look at the global trend, and not come to identities from a nationalistic point of view of how you want it to be but analyze what they really are, and I remind you that people have various identity. Ethnically Russian and Ukrainian by nationality don't contradict. Viewing your nationality as more important then ethnicity is your personal choice, but it's not deleting the other identity (well, you can change a nationality but not ethnicity). 94.3.21.223 (talk) 00:12, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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