Talk:2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon
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Casualty section is too cluttered
editThe casualty section of the battle box is wildly too cluttered.
Really, it is getting to a point where it is borderline unreadable for anyone trying to maintain brevity. It needs to be cleaned up and certain words need to be abbreviated.
For example, “surrendered” would be shortened to POW (prisoner of war). 2001:8003:3A18:E00:A4F7:2975:664:F26 (talk) 06:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- It also makes no sense for the Lebanese army casualties to be above Hezbollah casualties, since the conflict is mainly between Israel and Hezbollah Mauzer's random BS (talk) 06:37, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well currently we weirdly have Hezbollah medic casualties under the same side as UNFIL. And that's plain wrong. UNFIL's mandate is strictly neutral and there's no evidence that that have sided with Lebanon, let alone Hezbollah. We should have three columns: Israel, Lebanon and International, with casualties casualties of each nationalities in their respective columns.VR (Please ping on reply) 07:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Also, do we have any estimates of Hezbollah casualties from either Hezbollah or independent estimates? VR (Please ping on reply) 07:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Hashem safieddine is dead
editAccording to the Guardian and his wiki page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Napoleon583 (talk • contribs) 00:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Title
editThe title does not reflect current facts since October 1, because now the main subject of the article are the bombardement and not the ground operation. The ground operation are now limited, if the ground operation will have a largest superficy the title "invasion" will be justified but not now. I suggest to rename to Third Lebanon War like suggest in Talk:2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon/Archive 1#Requested move 3 October 2024. Nouill (talk) 17:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Suggested an broadly rejected in that discussion. If you want this article name changed to Third Lebanon War, you need to demonstrate that this is actually a widely used name. Cortador (talk) 07:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't answer the question that this article is more about the bombardment that the ground operation, and that "2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon" title doesn't fit well with Wikipedia:Article titles. Nouill (talk) 10:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't matter. What matters is that "Third Lebanon War" isn't a widely used term. If you want to rename this article "2024 Israeli Bombardment of Lebanon", feel free to make a case for that. Cortador (talk) 12:18, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't answer the question that this article is more about the bombardment that the ground operation, and that "2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon" title doesn't fit well with Wikipedia:Article titles. Nouill (talk) 10:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Overall Lebanon death toll
editI know the overall since Oct 8, 2023 is reported to be 2,530[1], according to Lebanese health officials. The death toll on Sep 30 was 1,640 also according Lebanese health officials[2]. So it should be possible to do a WP:CALCULATION to determine that casualties since Oct 1 are 910.VR (Please ping on reply) 07:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
22 civilian deaths
editPlease update civilian casualty numbers to reflect current date. There are more than 22 confirmed civilian deaths since the start of the conflict 2605:8D80:464:93B3:1F7:6F70:4F9B:D8CC (talk) 15:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
New development
editIDF sources have accepted that their one hermes 900 drone was shot by Hezbollah. Kindly update is as per IDF. Source: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2024-04-08/ty-article/.premium/israeli-army-confirms-in-a-first-hezbollah-shoots-down-advanced-hermes-900-uav/0000018e-bd86-d92b-adaf-ffe63fde0000 Baltistani (talk) 16:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Update the Israeli deathtool
edithttps://t.me/thecradlemedia/22888 2A02:AA1:1646:1CEC:BD27:9031:1DEA:33C6 (talk) 16:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Overall Lebanese army casualties
editThe total number of Lebanese army casualties is 11 not 7 so please update the number here is a source that say it's 11 (Lbc) 70.26.36.11 (talk) 20:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC)