Talk:Aberdeen floating village

Latest comment: 15 years ago by Ohconfucius in topic October 2009

October 2009

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This article is a mess. What is it about? You seem to be confusing Boat people refugees, and the people living traditionally on boats. There seem to be 3 different themes here: 1) Aberdeen, and the info related to Aberdeen belongs to the Aberdeen (Hong Kong) article 2) Boat people in Hong Kong, the Vietnamese refugees in Hong Kong, for which info has been collected in Vietnamese people in Hong Kong thus far, and 3) the Aberdeen Floating Village, and more broadly the people traditionally living on boats, like the Tanka (ethnic group), for which there is no Hong Kong specific article thus far. These could be a separate articles, but which should be much more focused than this one is currently. olivier (talk) 06:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Our topic is about Boat people who live in the Aberdeen Floating Village in Hong Kong. The Vietnamese Pillar point was the first group of boat people in Hong Kong yet they do not live here anymore. We felt it would be beneficial to briefly state the history of boat people in Hong Kong (as the Vietnamese in Pillar Point were the first group of boat people in Hong Kong who contributed greatly to the boat people culture of Hong Kong) and then proceed to examine the boat people living in Aberdeen Floating Village today.2007693492WONG09 (talk) 07:06, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

The boat people living in Aberdeen are Tanka and Hoklo people. Both groups came here hundreds of years ago. Vietnamese boat people arrived in HK in the 1970s. They arrived by boats, hence the name "boat people", but they lived in Hong Kong in camps, not in boats. So basically the people living on boats in Aberdeen are there since much longer and have no connection with the Vietnamese who came by boat and were settled in camps, one among them being the Pillar Point Camp in Tuen Mun. Maybe you could check these links [1] [2] and do some more research about the topic. If any Vietnamese ended up living on boats in Hong Kong, a reference would be very welcome. olivier (talk) 07:28, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
I am impressed by your "creativity" while trying to find connections between the Vietnamese boat people and the Tanka and Hoklo people living on boats in Aberdeen. Are you fighting so hard because you are working on a graded assignment? olivier (talk) 13:03, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Ariel for notifying me that my Tourism section is better with our own picture. I have added the citations to respect copyright. Thanks.2009542477SHIEH (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:39, 18 October 2009 (UTC).Reply

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I agree that the article could do with some sharper focus. As it stands, there is considerable scope overlap with Aberdeen, which is to be expected, given that this subject is a subset of the other, but that doesn't mean the lines cannot be clearer. Currently, the article dashes about backwards and forwards from fishing to tourism, from the floating village to Aberdeen at large, from people living on boats to people living on land. The problem I perceive is that each member of the group is working on his/her own part, dealing in a blinkered fashion with their own section and nobody else's, so not really treating this like a collaborative effort. I think radical restructuring of the sections is necessary. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 07:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply