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Basketball only?
editIs it correct to call these schools "basketball only members"? Aren't they members for everything except football? john 08:17, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Not sure when, but this appears to have been completed.--MikeUMA (talk) 04:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Logo
editA-10 logo
editSomeone needs to upload the general A-10 logo, and place it in the article as a supplement (NOT a replacement). The logo currently in the article is for the football conference only, and looks nothing like the general conference logo. Dale Arnett 04:21, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Not sure when, but this has been completed.--MikeUMA (talk) 04:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Sports team logo discussion
editThere is a discussion to clarify our policy/guideline on the use of sports team logos. Please see Wikipedia_talk:Logos#Clarification_on_use_of_sports_team_logos if you wish to participate in the discussion. Johntex\talk 16:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Member table
editEndowment numbers might be wrong. The "smallest" endowments here are listed at, like, a million dollars or so, but they actually have billion dollar endowments.
https://xkcd.com/558/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wesduplantier (talk • contribs) 03:50, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
School type/religious affiliation
editThe religious affiliation or designation as "non-sectarian" is not so clear cut. For example, Duke University describes its ties with Methodism as "formal, on-going, and symbolic" [1] while Wake Forest University maintains "a dedication to the values rooted in its Baptist heritage" [2]. Both schools can be considered "non-sectarian" in that they are no longer under the direct auspices of their founding religious organizations. Likewise, Boston College maintains its Jesuit identity in spite of the fact that it severed its formal ties with the Jesuit Order (and thereby the Catholic Church) in the 1960s when it was independently incorporated under a lay board of trustees. Unlike the Catholic University of America, which is under the direct auspices of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, or the University of Notre Dame, which is governed by "fellows" who must be priests of the Congregation of Holy Cross, The Trustees of Boston College (BC's governing body) operate independent of any religious jurisdiction. This arrangement is probably similar to that at Duke or Wake Forest, except that the BC trustees have voluntarily chosen to elect members of the founding religious organization to the presidency (though they are not required to do so). In fact, similar arrangements exist at other Jesuit colleges and universities, where both women and non-clerics have been elected to presidency (most recently at Georgetown University). All of this is to say that I think the nature of a school's religious affiliation is beyond the scope of this article, and that "public" or "private" suffice in the context of the members table. --24.63.125.78 10:20, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- 24.63.125.78 has coppied and pasted this on almost every college conference discussion board. Please refer to Talk:Atlantic Coast Conference so we can keep all the discussion in one place. Thanks. -- Masonpatriot
Facilities
editWhy are the football stadiums still listed for all the schools, even though the conference doesn't even sponsor football anymore? All the teams that made the switch are listed with their respective stadia at Colonial Athletic Association. Oughgh 23:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've thought about this myself. On related notes, the I-AA football conferences template should be removed and the map of conference members should be updated to reflect this change. On the other hand, I think I have seen other "I-AAA" conference pages with football stadia listed where appropriate, even though the conference doesn't sponsor football. If no one else responds to this, I'll start making the changes. Boneillhawk 01:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Ten or 10
editit seems that the conference's website uses Atlantic 10 not Ten. Perhaps the page should be moved to Atlantic 10 Conference. Smith03 17:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure when, but this has been completed.--MikeUMA (talk) 04:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Rivalries
editThe page has a section for "Atlantic 10 Rivalries". I have some problems with this section.
- We need other A-10 fans to chime in on this, but the rivalries seem to be to be primarily focused on men's basketball. This is definitely true for the rivalries mentioning UMass. UMass was and is a rival with URI, and was a rival with Temple. So if these are men's basketball rivalries, maybe this whole section should be part of Men's Basketball, and not a section on its own.
- Present vs Past tense. There is little tense used in this section. It needs to be improved for clarity.
- I question the need for this section entirely. Perhaps these "rivalries" should be mentioned on the individual school pages. Generally, any member of your conference is somewhat of a rival anyway, as you regularly face them.
Anyone else care to comment?--MikeUMA (talk) 04:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
These are not just MBB rivalries. A lot of times the rivalries transcend the games being played. The coach of dayton women's soccer famously said he thought Dayton fans would come out to watch tiddlywinks as long as the opponent was Xavier. As for the present/past tense confusion, it may exist because some of the rivalries no longer exist today. I would have mentioned Dayton/Xavier before URI/Fordham, myself. Thwackings (talk) 15:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Proposal to make timelines more consistent
editI noticed that conferences in List of NCAA conferences have articles, usually including a membership timeline. While some of the decisions made for each conference make some sense, there is a wide variety of styles for the various timelines, particularly involving color choices, but also other matters of style that could be more consistent.
for example, a school with a yellow bar means:
- An associate member in one sport (if part of the BE)
- A former member of the conference (in the SEC)
- A future member of the conference (in the SEC and Big West)
- A football only member (in the Sun Belt)
- A team that has moved to another conference (in the WAC, NEC)
- A full member of the Big Sky
Some graphs have captions, some do not, and none are centered.
To see the variety of styles, review Current conference timelines
I think it would be worth discussing how best to provide some measure of consistency, recognizing that there may be legitimate reasons for some differences from a standard presentation (for example, some conferences show the name of the new conference for former members. In some cases, this makes sense, in other, it may not.)
I've produced a draft of how the timelines would look with some consistency added. Please see Draft proposal of conference timelines.
I propose a discussion to see if there is consensus on improving the consistency.
Because it would not be practical to have this discussion on each and every conference talk page, I suggest centralizing this discussion at the Talk page of Project College football SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Standardize facility sections
editSee the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College baseball#Standardize conference pages' facility sections.
Discussion about overview maps for US collegiate athletic conferences
editA discussion on the Project College Football talk page has been created to discuss the proper format of the overview maps that are used for the US collegiate athletic conference pages.
If you're interested, please join the discussion here: Athletic conference overview maps and their lack of consistency. Mdak06 (talk) 00:00, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
College basketball team navboxes
editPlease join discussion at the College Basketball Wikiproject for forming a consensus on the creation of a basic navbox for college basketball teams. CrazyPaco (talk) 06:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Maps
editWith Davidson's addition into the A10, the two maps need to be updated to reflect this change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:A:3D80:56E:B9B0:6621:B401:B953 (talk) 05:54, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
North Carolina needs to be shaded in on the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.9.213.49 (talk) 19:17, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
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