Talk:California Dreams Tour
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Songs
editCan anyone put on a list of her songs in order? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterbrabel (talk • contribs) 02:12, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Set List
edit- Can somebody put the actual set list, i think that the ALL the article is stuck without this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.24.20.1 (talk) 15:46, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- hey, can this sources be used? Setlist.fm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.24.16.1 (talk) 01:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
- No; that site is not reliable. Yves (talk) 01:12, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
- sorry about that xD, i readed that news pages can be good sources; it is in french, but it doesn't matter right?PurePeople —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.24.22.1 (talk) 21:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
- That setlist is wrong, she does Hot N Cold before Firework and California Gurls and only did One of The Boys on the very first date. Born This Way is a constant addition to the set list, not just a one off. Conalae (talk) 19:45, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- The current "source" does not mention which order the songs were sang in and is unreliable, it should be removed. I obviously do not have a replacement reliable source or I would use it.
- How's; this Still not 100% right for the current UK tour, but more correct than the current one.Conalae (talk) 19:07, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- NOT a reliable source. See WP:RS Itsbydesign (talk) 07:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- And the current source is? It's just annoying me that there is something I KNOW is incorrect is on the page, sorry. (Unlesss she changed it for that 1 French date) At the bottom., UK & Ireland, This one only works for me when I double click to copy the paragraph to a notepad, but it might just be my computer? etc, but they are just going to be denied. Oh well. Conalae (talk) 04:15, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes the current source is. It's a French entertainment and leisure magazine, similar to Entertainment Weekly in the United States. Being a foreign language does not dis-merit its reliability All of the site you have listed are blog sites, which is user-generated content. No matter how "factual" the information may be, these are not deemed as reliable third party sources by Wikipedia standards. Again, check WP:RS if you need any additional help. Itsbydesign (talk) 10:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- No, but being wrong does... Damn sources reporting inaccurate information. It doesn't even mention the Whitney Houston cover... The San Diego one is a blog though? That's the one I was sure of.Conalae (talk) 05:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Again, none of the sources you have listed as deemed reliable by Wikipedia standards. Regardless of the changes the setlist may have, there is only one printed reliable source to reference.Itsbydesign (talk) 11:36, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Did you just skim my edit? I did not argue for any of my sources, I just questioned your decision on one of them as it does not look unreliable, mainly so I know for in the future. The setlist hasn't changed (much) - the source just used an incorrect one that was on here and blogs at the time. One last attempt; Breaks the setlist into its acts, and includes the missing cover. If that's unreliable here's sources for at least the missing Whitney Houston cover and the continued presence of Born This Way' ; NME - mentions both, Wanna Dance With Somebody, Born This Way. I would edit myself, but I'd rather get denied here and not waste time editing. Conalae (talk) 17:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I explained to you earlier the source is a reliable magazine in France. Regardless of the language barrier, the French culture considers this a reputable source. I will do research on the Italian website you have listed and if I can find information for its reliability, I will make the changes to the setlist. Itsbydesign (talk) 10:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- My research shows the Italian website is a reliable source per Wikipedia standards. Changes have been made. Itsbydesign (talk) 12:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Did you just skim my edit? I did not argue for any of my sources, I just questioned your decision on one of them as it does not look unreliable, mainly so I know for in the future. The setlist hasn't changed (much) - the source just used an incorrect one that was on here and blogs at the time. One last attempt; Breaks the setlist into its acts, and includes the missing cover. If that's unreliable here's sources for at least the missing Whitney Houston cover and the continued presence of Born This Way' ; NME - mentions both, Wanna Dance With Somebody, Born This Way. I would edit myself, but I'd rather get denied here and not waste time editing. Conalae (talk) 17:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Again, none of the sources you have listed as deemed reliable by Wikipedia standards. Regardless of the changes the setlist may have, there is only one printed reliable source to reference.Itsbydesign (talk) 11:36, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- No, but being wrong does... Damn sources reporting inaccurate information. It doesn't even mention the Whitney Houston cover... The San Diego one is a blog though? That's the one I was sure of.Conalae (talk) 05:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes the current source is. It's a French entertainment and leisure magazine, similar to Entertainment Weekly in the United States. Being a foreign language does not dis-merit its reliability All of the site you have listed are blog sites, which is user-generated content. No matter how "factual" the information may be, these are not deemed as reliable third party sources by Wikipedia standards. Again, check WP:RS if you need any additional help. Itsbydesign (talk) 10:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- And the current source is? It's just annoying me that there is something I KNOW is incorrect is on the page, sorry. (Unlesss she changed it for that 1 French date) At the bottom., UK & Ireland, This one only works for me when I double click to copy the paragraph to a notepad, but it might just be my computer? etc, but they are just going to be denied. Oh well. Conalae (talk) 04:15, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- NOT a reliable source. See WP:RS Itsbydesign (talk) 07:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- How's; this Still not 100% right for the current UK tour, but more correct than the current one.Conalae (talk) 19:07, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- The current "source" does not mention which order the songs were sang in and is unreliable, it should be removed. I obviously do not have a replacement reliable source or I would use it.
- That setlist is wrong, she does Hot N Cold before Firework and California Gurls and only did One of The Boys on the very first date. Born This Way is a constant addition to the set list, not just a one off. Conalae (talk) 19:45, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- sorry about that xD, i readed that news pages can be good sources; it is in french, but it doesn't matter right?PurePeople —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.24.22.1 (talk) 21:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
- No; that site is not reliable. Yves (talk) 01:12, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
- hey, can this sources be used? Setlist.fm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.24.16.1 (talk) 01:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Need a Setlist
editThis article is not good without the setlist. calvin999 (talk) 14:35, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
- Find a third party reliable source and the setlist will be included. Without it, it will constantly be deleted.Itsbydesign (talk) 10:55, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Neutrality
editThis article is clearly not neutral, with words like "glowing." The article's critical reception section is very biased, as there have been many negative reviews, but none are included on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaga690 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
The California Dreams Tour Gallery
editThere used to be a gallery in The California Dreams Tour article but it's not there anymore. The gallery had a collection of good images of the tour that couldn't all fit in the article, so can we bring back that gallery? There are lots of awesome tour images that aren't in a article. Plus, the gallery even showed what song was sang in the image. Another thing, I think there are too many images in The California Dreams Tour category. Some of them are really bad quality. Is it possible that we could delete some images? CPGirlAJ (talk) 21:30, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- In reviewing the edit history of the article, I see that the gallery was removed in July. You edited the article about a week later, so it was already gone at that point. I must say that I totally agree with the removal, per the editor's "clutter" comment and, more importantly, WP:Galleries. Yes, there are many great pics of Perry from the tour, but Wikipedia doesn't allow articles to be repositories for images. --76.189.101.221 (talk) 00:09, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Source
editFound this link about the sound engineering for the tour. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:07, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
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