Talk:Ermengol I
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Requested move 17 October 2024
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- Ermengol I → Ermengol I of Urgell
- Ermengol II → Ermengol II of Urgell
- Ermengol III → Ermengol III of Urgell
- Ermengol IV → Ermengol IV of Urgell
- Ermengol V → Ermengol V of Urgell
- Ermengol VI → Ermengol VI of Urgell
- Ermengol VII → Ermengol VII of Urgell
- Ermengol VIII → Ermengol VIII of Urgell
- Ermengol IX → Ermengol IX of Urgell
- Ermengol X, Count of Urgell → Ermengol X of Urgell
– All but the last of these were recently moved without discussion with the following rationale: Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE): Per WP:NCROY guideline and WP:AT policy. No need for the disambiguation.
Of course, the name Ermengol does need disambiguation. The question is whether the appropriate disambiguation is a mere numeral or a numeral and land. I say the latter. The numeral is tied to the land. Srnec (talk) 00:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose and move Ermengol X, Count of Urgell to Ermengol X, per WP:SOVEREIGN. In the absence of clear consensus at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Titles of European monarchs, the guideline stands and the territory should not be used for disambiguation. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- If we read WP:NCROY#Other cases strictly, shouldn't these be moved to "Ermengol NN, Count of Urgell"? Personally, I don't think pre-emptive disambiguation is useful in this case since "Ermengol NN" is unambiguous. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)