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editIs the term Jasz people simply applied to locals in the communal sense due to the town having a derivative for a name? Or do the people identify ethnically as Jasz? It makes a big difference as if the second question produces a negative then these would merely be ordinary Hungarians. They obviously only speak Hungarian as a first language and it is very peculiar that an entire town be one ethnic group while all outsiders are Hungarian. One would have expected Jasz on the outskirts as well as Hungarians in the actual town just as you get everywhere else where two ethnicities co-exist. --Coldtrack (talk) 20:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Basically your assumption is right about the outcome, they don't declare officially themselves as Jász (such would not evev necessarily possible), but Hungarians, as yes, colloquially the historical regions and cities keep alive this next to a few traditions.(KIENGIR (talk) 02:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC))
- Thanks for clarifying it Kiengir. My fear is that we are falsely reporting a specific demographic particularly if referring to this part of the population as Iranic and related to Ossetians. It's not uncommon to have the scenario in question. Historically you had the Turkic Cumans who were vast and yet assimilated. Today there are myriad locations that uphold the legacy such as Kumanovo in Macedonia and Comănești in Romania, both deriving their names from the older nation and both more than likely having vestiges of the ethnic seed among the populace and possibly relics of the culture fossilised into the modern system. Cuman legacy actually stretches from the Black Sea region right through to China, in one form or another. There needs to be a way we can represent this without wrongfully pigeonholing the citizens of a town or municipality as a "separate race" if you know I'm saying. --Coldtrack (talk) 05:09, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, however, I read throuth the article, and I think it's ok, did not notice any overstatement.(KIENGIR (talk) 19:45, 3 September 2020 (UTC))
- Thanks for clarifying it Kiengir. My fear is that we are falsely reporting a specific demographic particularly if referring to this part of the population as Iranic and related to Ossetians. It's not uncommon to have the scenario in question. Historically you had the Turkic Cumans who were vast and yet assimilated. Today there are myriad locations that uphold the legacy such as Kumanovo in Macedonia and Comănești in Romania, both deriving their names from the older nation and both more than likely having vestiges of the ethnic seed among the populace and possibly relics of the culture fossilised into the modern system. Cuman legacy actually stretches from the Black Sea region right through to China, in one form or another. There needs to be a way we can represent this without wrongfully pigeonholing the citizens of a town or municipality as a "separate race" if you know I'm saying. --Coldtrack (talk) 05:09, 3 September 2020 (UTC)