Talk:Once Upon a Time season 4

OUAT split seasons

Greetings fellow Oncers. If you have time, can you please take a look at this season article proposal on the season 5 talk page. I have placed links to the proposal on affected past seasons talk pages so that more users can find this proposal and contribute if they wish. Thanks. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 23:45, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Operation Mongoose

Why has this been merged into a single table row? Such use of <br /> hurts accessibility as most screen readers will just skip over it – for example, 87<br />88 will be read as "eighty thousand eighty-eight", if I understand correctly. The episode summaries are also clearly separated with a horizontal line, which just reinforces the fact that they should be separated. Simply because it has one article for both parts does not mean it has to be in one row, we can just link it on the first part (or both, even, linking it twice isn't excessive). nyuszika7h (talk) 23:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

It has one article, it had one row in the manually-wikicoded ratings table before it was templated, and this is not a singular occurrence. This decision was also based on and extrapolated from the consensus to list the finale of Season 2 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as one entry, and if I also remember correctly, the episode aired as one continuous episode. The argument for the horizontal line splitting the summaries is not based on anything given that "Smash the Mirror" also contains it; if you want it removed, there's nothing stopping that. Alex|The|Whovian^? 23:21, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

@AlexTheWhovian: Well, if it aired with one set of credits, normally we would count it as one episode, but it's more complicated for OUAT because of the 100th episode thing. I edited it to fix the accessibility, otherwise I'm OK with listing it like this, but it would be best to merge the two parts of the episode summary if it indeed aired with one set of credits. nyuszika7h (talk) 23:35, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

(No need to ping me, I'm watching the page.) Can you provide a source as that states that line breaks break accessibility? I'm curious, given that line breaks are universal and extremely common around the web. The reason for the breaks are so that the different items of information in one episode line up with each other correctly. I've removed the thematic break in the final episode. Alex|The|Whovian^? 23:41, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

{{ubc}} could be used for that too, but I'm worried it might be unnecessarily verbose for screen readers ("List of 2 items: (bullet) 87 (bullet) 88"), and this one's more subjective, but I think it looks better separated by an en dash on a single line. As for sources, see [1] – you could probably find more, I can't right now, but it's a good one as it's from the W3C, and the fact that we have WP:UBLIST, {{plainlist}} and {{unbulleted list}} backs up the existence of the issue as well. And yes, they are extremely common, just like using tables for layout, that does not mean it's good practice. ;) nyuszika7h (talk) 23:57, 12 March 2016 (UTC)